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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. We're talking about yarding on this fourth
of July weekend. Hopefully had a great fourth yesterday, and
then of course we got to day and tomorrow gonna
be hot. Maybe you're gonna be at the pool and
grilling out or doing whatever. I hope you're not traveling, boy,
all those people on the roads. I'm glad I stayed
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home and just watering the plants and trying to stay
cool as best you can. But you know, it's good
to have a good three day weekend. I'd keep your
minding myself. Yesterday, I don't know about you. That it
was Friday, didn't seem like Friday. It seemed like a
Saturday or a Sunday because of the holidays. Nevertheless, hot
out there, so keep up your watering as needed. And
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of course, if you've got a lot of container plants,
a lot of hanging baskets that you're going to be
doing a lot of watering on a regular basis, remember
to continue to feed those maybe every couple of weeks.
You know, when you do a lot of watering, you
really leach a lot of those nutrients right on through
that soil and right out the bottom. So about every
couple of weeks or so, give them a little shot
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of something, whether it be a water soluble miracle, grow jacks, fertilizer, peters,
fish emulsion. There's so many different options for you that
you can use. But it's important to do that and
continue to deadhead and pinch the back as needed to
keep them looking fresh, keep them looking full, you know.
And again as we go through this transition now getting
pretty solidly into the heat of the summertime, and all
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you know, we see some yellowing and leaves, We see
some things cropping up. Don't panic. Pick the leaves off,
if they're spotted, maybe some issues that seems to be
spreading through the plant. Get a picture of it or
some samples to your local garden center. Let them take
a look at it, see if they can try to
determine what's going on. But you know, don't panic. But
it's we see a lot of that right now. I mean,
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I look through a lot of my containers, I'm picking
leaves and doing things. Just because of that, some of
the things that kind of slowed down a little bit
because of the heat. As far as flowering, so you
know that happens occasionally too, but stick with them. But
if you're doing a lot of watering with those, make
sure you do keep the feeding going about every two
weeks or so. Really does work out nicely for you
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to do that. Also on your list for next year.
If you did not plant Tithonia Mexican sunflower, if you
did not plant that, or maybe the garden center grower
did not grow those that you would be available for
you to plant. Put that on your list and make
sure they know about it as well. Tithonia has been
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doing a great job. It's I like the orange, not
the yellow. I like the orange flowering so far, really bright, big,
bold plant. But it really brings in the pollinators, really
brings in the butterflies. That is a top of the
list when it comes to being a magnet for your
annual plantings. And you can do them in containers, do
them in the ground, whatever. But that thing is absolutely
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outstanding called Tithonia t i. H o n Ia or
Mexican sunflower. Put that on your list and tell your
growers they need to grow it for next year if
they're not growing it and you will absolutely love it.
Trust me on that one. Secondly, I just finished planting
up a couple containers of cotton plants. That's right, I said,
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cotton plants literally white cotton plants. They are tough, they
are durable, they're woody. They'll get about in a container.
They'll probably get about twenty four or thirty six inches
high and wide, I mean, pretty good sized. Plan think
about when they grow them in the fields. You know,
a big big plants, but there's a lot more of
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the growers now growing cotton as an ornamental annual to
plant in your containers, to plant in your because when
if the leaves are cool, they look like a almost
like a poplar leaf, and like I said, it's kind
of woody, but the flowers look like hibiscus and they're
really nice, and they're multiple colors, so you get some
different colors on each of the plants. And then of course,
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after the flower is finished, you'll see that kind of
go back in. It'll close up form that big bulb,
and of course the cotton starts to form inside and
by the end of the summer that'll pop open and
guess what you got cotton. It's for real and it
looks so cool, and you can cut those and use
them in dried arrangements. I look at it and say,
this is one of those plants that if you've got
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kids or grandkids, and I know several teachers locally where
I live, will come and get those cotton plants every
year and grow them for their kids to see how
cottons grow, because a lot of kids don't understand that
a lot of folks don't understand what a cotton plant is.
It's fun, and the flowers are gorgeous, and the cotton's cool,
and it's a pretty easy one to take care of.
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They're tough and they are durable, very woody. But again,
if you if your grower hasn't grown cotton, and you
can grow them like small pots just like you do
your petunias and annuals and things like that, suggest that
they do that, and I think you will absolutely love
those as well. So Tithonia cotton. And one more I
want you to put on your on your list, Ruella
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Mexican petunia. Here's a plant that's bold, upright, kind of
maroonyish green leaves, really tough, takes the heat once it
gets established that you don't have to water quite as
often as you do everything else. And a lavender purple
flower that every day, these plants will have forty flowers.
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They last for a day, they fall off in the evening.
The next day, forty five flowers, fall off in the evening,
next day, forty five flowers. They just keep getting a
few more every time. And it's absolutely unreal how easy
this plant is to go. It's called ruella. Are you
E L L A? Or Mexican petunia? So I want
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you to add those three plants to your plant lists,
your annual plant lists that if you haven't planted them before,
I want you to prime next year. And if your grower, local,
independent garden center or whatever doesn't grow them, give them
that list and have them to look into it because
they're very easy to grow for growers, and I guarantee
you they will sell them once folks learn about them.
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They're absolutely crazy. Last, but not least, before we take
a break and we'll do a little home improvement with
mister Gary Sullivan. Still time to plant some things from seed,
believe it or not, in your vegetable garden. Don't forget
you know you still have time for succession plantings of
the late lake copp or crop of corn and read
the label see how long it takes to produce it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Beans.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You can still do cucumbers, you can still do a
lot of the different squash, and of course herbs can
still be planted in the gardens, so you've still got
time for that. Remember I've always used July fourth, that
week or weekend as much typically my cutoff for planting
tomatoes and peppers and things like that. You know, it
get gets pretty late into the season. Could you still
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do it? Yeah, but these that you grow from seed
are quicker producers and we'll give you a nice crop
later in the season. You can even still grant plant
a zenias from seed. I think you'll get a good Kleiomi,
cosmos marigolds. If you still had some seeds, you can
still get those up and growing and flowering for the
fall season. So there are still a few of those
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that you can still continue to plant if you're interested.
And there are still selections out there of sunflowers that
you can plant and still get the sunflower again late
summer early fall, which is great because we need those
plants at that time of the year for our pollinators.
And of course they'll still form the seed heads. Great
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for the birds as well. I saw a picture the
other day. You hear me talking about the three Stingers,
Barbie Bletcher, our Queen Bee, Teresa Parker, and Nina Bagley.
Nina's the queen bee breeder, showed me a picture of
a patch of sunflowers that she planted. Didn't say anything
to anybody. It's really nice. So it looks like it's
about eight ten feet deep, about fifty feet long or so,
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just now starting to show a few flowers will start
flowering over the next several weeks. You know the thing
about sunflowers, and I boy, I told her I could outstanding.
It makes you smile. Everybody knows the sunflower. Kids know sunflowers,
adults know sunflowers. It makes you smile, It makes the
pollinator smile, It makes the wildlife smile. It makes everybody smile.
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I mean, for an all around plant that make everybody
smile and happy, and it's so good for the bees.
Phenomenals like medicinal for mendistal purposes. Honey bees absolutely totally
benefit from the nectar in the pollen from sunflowers. But again,
so good for all around and to really bring a
smile in everybody's faces. Our sunflow and anytime you can
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plant sunflowers and do succession plantings, so you got them
in flower throughout the entire summer and into the fall season,
and they're pretty tough. They'll take some cooler temperatures later
in the season. That's why you'll see some of the
sunflowers and mixed containers available for you in September for
going into the fall. But still time to do those
as well. If you have not done that, get out
to your local garden center. Probably still got some seapacks
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left over from sunflower seeds and you can get those
planeted and go from there. And if you don't get
them all planeted, just storm them, save them away and
plant them next year for you. But there's some plants
that you want to put on your list or still
plant yet this year to benefit from later in the
summer and fall season. Quick break, we come back a
little Home Improven from the Man the mid the legend
mister Gary Sullivan. Then at the bottom of the hour,
(09:45):
Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (12:43):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again.
Don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
On our Facebook page of course in the Garden with
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As I promise his time for the man, the myth,
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show host in the entire Solar system. His website Garysullivan
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Online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the Only
Mister Gary Slimon. Good morning, mister Wilson's Mister Sullivan, how
are you tolerating the heat?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Doing just fine?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What's the air conditioner? Said on it to Sullivon is
stead seventy five? Seventy five? Wow?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is that high or low?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We got ours a little bit lower than that. Yeah,
I must be getting older.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'll tell you what I thought.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You were supposed to be able to handle the heat
when you got older. I don't know how does that work?
I don't know, But when you're older, tell me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't have any I don't have any idea. I
just don't. Well, there's been a couple of hot days.
I think it depends what time of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Of course, you don't hit the pool anymore, do you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, not too much thought about it this week, but
upright and early and getting a lot of stuff done
in the morning before it heats up. We've had some
beautiful evenings and some beautiful mornings.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yep. Been in the evening evening outside work at the
Wilson household.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah yeah, pull of shades, get a good book between
two and four.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Crank back. Well, you know my problem is I do
enjoy reading. I've gotten better as I've gotten older. My
promise staying awake.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well that's all.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Everybody's get into about three pages and next thing I know,
I'm in the forty five minutes later.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, that's the way it works. But you're well rested.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Uh yeah, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So how's the vegetable gardens going this year's a yo?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yo? I talked to Uh, yeah, they have been. I
talked to Terry Diefenbaker and you I don't know if
you know Terry Knight Yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh he's,
you know, big tomato grower, his grandfather, I mean, the
whole family's been doing it for years. And I stopped
at his place and he said that he kind of laughed,
and he said, this is the latest ever that I
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can ever remember from a kid of not having ripe
tomatoes yet.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And he planted. He told me I think May the
fourth or something like that, and he said, we've never
been this late having tomatoes, so they're coming on, you
know slow. My mom's or tips, she's usually typically got
some of the early producers by now, and she's just
barely getting a few. Talking with the giant pumpkin grower
Jerry Rose and again the weather ups and downs and
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that got him a little bit late. But he finally
he's got him going. And I didn't. I don't. I'll
text you the picture. But he showed me a picture
this week of one of his pumpkins. It's three weeks
old and it weighs a little hundred three hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
When I saw that, he said, well, that's about three
weeks old. Is that you got to be kidding me? Wow, Sods,
maybe that's something you should get into. Pumpkin growing, the
giant pumpkin growing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I just tried to throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, missus, you get into it, what Danny, missus Sullivan
and you get into it?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see the two of you
doing that. Yeah, all right, here's my home. I proven
question for today. It has to do a staining.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh no, gosh, you cleaned it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
This is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're
pat I got excited. This is a wooden tray that
my wife bought that you open up, it's got it's
about fifteen inches in diameter. It's got a little lip
around the outside. You open up the wooden legs or
on hinges, and you set it on the your hand,
the arm of your chair and use it like a
tray and then take it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Off okay while you're napping.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
While you're napping, and hope you don't wake up and
knock it off and spill your coke everywhere. Yeah, and
it's a plain it's not stained all right, snatcher wood.
And she went to stain it the other day. She
went and bought one of the I think it was
an oil base stained minwag, one of the mind wax varieties.
But anyway to go, and it just doesn't penetrate. It's
like it's all over the board.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was the first thing I was going to ask you,
you know what kind of good it is?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No, and I need to take a look at it.
But it just did not do it. I mean, it's
just dark and white and light and it's so.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It has differenties, right, Yeah, the wood has different parosseass
Is it one solid piece of wood or is it No?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think it's piece together.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. And you know the
interesting thing about wood stain versus paint, right, of course,
pain is a coating. You know, you go you pick
out a color and you put it on the surface,
and that's the color you get. With stain, you're going
to get what the wood is, walnut wood stain in
one brand and put it on twelve different species of
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woods and it'll look like twelve totally different colors. Yeah,
and if it's piece together, that's probably what you're getting.
You can you can do something about that. You can
put a a conditioner on that wood which will even
out the porosity. Okay, so it would be like it's
called stained conditioner or wood can. You can make your own.
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It's fifty percent h denatured alcohol and fifty percent lact
and you'll put that on and you know, the real
softer porse woods like pine will absorb more than an
oak wood. You'll kind of even that out to a degree.
But that might be something.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right now, what what she has already put on there?
It didn't work right, We're gonna to stand that off, right, Yeah,
that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Okay, you know, you can't really tell the differences in
the wood. I mean, it looks pretty much the same
color as you look at it, and I don't see
any grains that really stand out, you know, like major right,
But yeah, it just and I you know, she was
doing a project by herself. I didn't really pay any attention.
I would have known anyway, but uh, and she just said,
I just can't it's not sticking on this, like it's
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just running off and dark hair and light there and
not good.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, and you never know, there could be some seal
or in that wood.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, that was my other thing that they may have
pre sealed. That could be it didn't look like it,
but it could have been pre sealed, which them standing
it would help. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I mean another thing we don't know is sometimes, depending
on how old it is, they would actually use natural
wood and wax it. Oh and of course that's going
to resist any penetrating oil sealer too, right. And you
can you can get some of that out, but it's
really hard to get all of it out because as
you say, and you create heat, he creates melt milk
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contributes to the prow it away. Yeah, there's also some
real heavy bodied stains, kind of like the gel stains,
which can kind of hide a lot of that too.
It's it's not quite a coating, but it's not really
like an oil penetrating stain either.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You want to come over about four today? Sure, okay, sure,
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Bring your tray and you're a recliner with you again?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
What are you going to talk about today?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
My gosh, I got a whole limp number projects and
we're gonna be outside and you.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Won't but you're gonna talk about I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Gonna get you to motivate. We're gonna do some work outside.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Gary Solomons website, Garysullivan online dot com. Thank you, sir,
have a great show. Ben coming up next, Buggy Joe
Boggs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:34):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com. As I promised, of course, it is time
for the buggy Joe Boggsy Port Joe Buggs. It's just
a professor, commercial holder, coach, youre educator. We're the old
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Bucky Joe Bugs.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You know I love the addition of you know in
my in my intro, don't laugh at me, don't laugh
at me. I'm going to start I'm going to start
adding that, and I'm going to start saying, yes, I'm Joe,
don't laugh at me, Bogs.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Right, Yes, let's do that. Yeah, don't laugh at me.
So you stay cool? Are you staying cool?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Yeah? And cool thing? And well, actually, you know, it
wasn't as bad yesterday as what I anticipated. While I
was out mowing around and doing other things and mowing around,
mowing around and around, just mowing around in circles. That's
exactly right there, random mowing, random. It was interesting that
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we are seeing some turf diseases out there that really
are making the ground look off. I guess probably little
brown Patch, Little brown Patch. And you know what's strange
to me about it is, I mean, it's been a
strange spring. You guys were talking about in summer, talking
about tomatoes, but you know, brown patch. It's not uncommon
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to have it sort of creep in, you know, as
a temperature's warm up, but it seemed to kind of
happen a little bit earlier this year. I mean, we
were starting to pick up brown patch went from red
thread to brown patch. I like all these colorful names.
I think about that just now, red and brown. But
here's the challenge between those two diseases. One of them,
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red thread indicates that you have not enough nitrogen. Brown
Patch can indicate that you have too much. Don't you
love it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I have both of them on my lawn at the
same time.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Well, that means, joke, you need to just move. You
need to just sell the house and move. So that's
our best advice.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I've actually very rarely seen that, but but I have
seen it. And when I've seen it, it's usually indicates
that there's something underground there, there's something going on where
you have variability in the soil, which brings us to
you know, I need to hear a drum roll. It
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brings us to soil testing. You know, we just did
I mentioned it last week. I was mentioned again too,
So we did an Ossue Extension fact sheet on soil
testing on how to soil test for horticultural needs. And
then Gary, our good friend Gary Gal with o issue
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hort and crop science. I always have to remember that
wild grapes scary.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Gal.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I just posted a fact sheet on on selecting a
soil testing lab. So the two taken together just means
that you have plenty of information on getting this done.
It's easy to do, and it really does provide a
lot of help. I have a saying when I'm teaching
about this that let the soil select your trees, you know,
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let the soil select your plants. And very often, you
know this ron that when people are struggling with getting
to something, that getting something to grow that they really
want to grow and you know, want to do well,
it comes down to soil. And that includes vegetable gardens.
You know, very often people be struggling along. I had
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some pictures, you know, you're talking about tomatoes, some pictures
from a lawn from a vegetable garden sent to me
earlier this season, and it turned out the person did
you know, finally do the soil test and the tea.
Each of that soil was almost like limestone, which you
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know can happen down in our neck of the woods
in Cincinnati where you can have very high pH. But
theirs was like seven point nine, which is do I
hear a gasp? I mean it was just.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like I actually I actually got a guy sent me
had the soil tested between a sidewalk in the house
and it ranged from seven nine to eighty four. Ge
Whizz or g Willie.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Now that's ge the reason why I I couldn't help myself.
I took a drink of coffee and then you said
eight point flour and I thought, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He had a test it and it was like, really,
oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, and it's hard, and a person might be a
good gardener out there probably thinking well, Ge Whiz, how
do you like me? How do you lower the pH?
And that can be difficult. You know, it's something like
I'm gonna use in acid of fire like sulfur. It's
going to be you know, it's not going to be
easy because usually very high pH indicates that beneath your
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feet you have some type of a limestone like material
that's constantly contributing to the pH rising and from about
if you've picture Ohio, for example, in the middle of
the state, to the west, we have soils that we
call karst soils ka arst, and that means that there's
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a lot of limestone beneath your feet. To the east
you have more shale. You have acinic shales, you have
acinic sands. So it's just the opposite. But the point
being is that that if this told the person something
very important, because limestone has a pH of around eight
point three. So if you're starting to get something higher
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than limestone, that's telling you something else is going on.
For example, I'm not saying the person did this that
had eight point four. That could just be a little
bit of anomaly just in a very small area. But
if you start getting really well above limestone, things like soaps.
For example, we had a very high reading on a
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test about ten twelve years ago. I say we because
I was, you know, working with the individual because they're
really struggling, and it turned out that they just bought
the house. As I recall, turned out, the previous owner
was using this area to get rid of gray water.
So they were yes, so soaps. You know, you can
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get a very high fee depending on what type of
soaps are being used in that gray water. And again
someone may not even well. I surprised me. I actually
didn't know that would happen either. So if you start
getting a phi's extremely high, it's telling you that something
else is going on there. But that's actually the exception
to the rule. Usually we don't see extremely high PhD.
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But the point if a person the garden that I
was talking about, though, I mean they were the tomatoes
were just sitting there, and it wasn't just the weather,
it was just in the previous year well. As a
matter of fact, they told me that they had never
done well in their vegetable garden. It was that they
were struggling every year. And of course, finding out that
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the pH was so high, it's going to take time
for them. It's not going to be an immediate response
when you add an acidifier, but at least they know
what to do. Or you can have a nutrient deficiency,
which is you know, very bad, don't just throw fertilizer
at plants. We need to know exactly, you know, what
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is going on there, what is the need. And that's
again where soul testing comes in. And it's something that
is an old extension recommendation, I mean years and years ago,
but still remains extremely important.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That a lot of people, well don't listen to.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Me.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Seriously, they don't, you know, you talk about soil testing
all the time, and they still kind of saying, I'll
just throw some more fertilizer on it. Yeah, I mean seriously,
I mean, I mean, you know, I'm not trying to
be funny. I still remember Joe when soil testing and
we've always and like you said, it's been around forever,
it's nothing new, been pushing it forever. Always have your
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soil testing. Twenty five years ago, twenty years ago whatever,
I was at a rose show with a rose group
and I never forget. Somebody said was talking to me
about they actually they have been rose grower for a
long long time. And a couple three four years ago,
the rose hole, all the rose beds started to just
roses started to lose their vigor and they just weren't
(31:44):
doing well. And they tried all kinds of new fertilizers
and mulching and stuff like that. Nothing happened, and somebody
suggested they had an extension agent or somebody come out
and so, why don't you get soil testing? Well you
know what I'm saying. And somebody come out that I
don't know who was, but anyway, I think it was
an extension and said why don't you get the soil tested?
And they said, we never had a soil tested. And
they said, yeah, you need to have tests and see
(32:05):
what is and it came back to pH was the
same way it was in the mid to hide sevens,
and so the in course roses don't like that, and
so they made it. They made adjustments to the soil,
and the following year the rose beds were back to
like they should have been, or like they were many
years ago. And they said, we never ever took it
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seriously about having the soil tested nor looking at the
pH level of the soil. And I'll always remember that
as a as a testimonial. And these were professional rose growers,
you know that just kind of said no, you don't
really have to do that. And somebody finally said, yeah,
you really do. And I'll give extension credit house that Yeah,
(32:48):
it was an extension agent. Yeah that's it. Well, you
know it's interesting, Yeah, extension that was it. But yeah,
you know, and I've always remembered that. And again, it's
so many people don't take that seriously, and you really should,
even if it's in a raise bed or whatever, every
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now and then have it tested just to see where
it is, you.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Know it is. It's interesting because, like you said, it's
a very old it's a very old recommendation, but you know,
to kind of help the professional professionals out there. You
and I hear this every so often. Well, my clients
won't pay the extra dollars. Well, you know, I before
the break. Here here's the analogy that I use. If
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you went in to see your doctor, you know, there's
something really terribly wrong, you know, something's not right, and
they just start, you know, feeding your pills. They just say, okay,
we'll take these and maybe that'll help, and you know,
just do this and maybe that'll help. And you realize, well,
there was never a blood test done to find out
exactly why I am tired or why something's not right,
(33:56):
and they just started That's exactly like what you said.
In terms of well, I'll just apply a little more fertilizer.
Maybe that's what it needs. It's exactly the same thing.
So if a professional tells you, I'm saying this for
some of the gardeners out there, if you have a
professional says that we would like to get your sol tested.
Your lawn's not looking very very good. We want to
(34:17):
see what's going on. They again, the charge may be
in there that you have to pay it, because it's
the same thing as if your doctor says, of course
you have no choice now right, you're going to get
a blood test. It's exactly the same thing. Ye agree,
I think a break is upon us, is right?
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Talking yard name eight hundred eight two three eight two
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O s U dot E D You. I have a
real quick question for you. Yes, sir, does the tick test?
Somebody asked me, don't you have to send in a
(37:21):
live tick when you send that in and I said, well,
if you pulled it off of your out of you,
I don't think it's still be a probably not still alive.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
No, that's right, if it doesn't need to be because
they you know, the way that what they look for
is gonna still be viable as long as it doesn't
get heated. That's the one thing. He'll put it in
the front window of your car drive around. Uh So, no,
it doesn't have to it does not have to be alive.
And it's a good idea. But here's the other thing
(37:52):
about it. I don't know if I'm comfortable these days,
you know with and of course you know, either one
of those or medical professionals, but pulling a tick off
has its own risks, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, And I
uh and of course, but.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I mean, I mean, but is that funny when you
and I were kids, Yeah, and even even if folks
as old as Gary Sullivan when he was a kid, Yeah,
you know, you had a tick on you just you know,
of course back then somebody pulled a cigarette out and
or something like that to get to let go you know,
oh you let go of that sure out, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You just then you have a burn on your burn.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And whatever, or you would just pull it off, you
know exactly. I didn't think anything about it. You picked
it off and kind of made sure it was kind
of cleared out, and you went on about your.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Business and there you go, there you go, and and
then sometimes it didn't work out so well. I mean,
you know, sometimes the you know, the the mouth parts
were left in. You know, that happened to me once,
and then you had to go see the doctor because
then they have to do a little bit more. But
because of the challenges with some of the pathogens and
(39:05):
the you know, the possibility of them being squeezed into
your your your system, it's and other reasons. It's just
a good idea if you have a tick stuck on you,
it's a good idea if you get into a professional
to have them have that taken care of in the
proper way. Again, there's all kinds of of of how
(39:26):
to's right, there's all kinds of you can yeah, you
can do that, but it's just yeah, it's just better
to get you know, to get some help, as they say,
for you and I get some professional. Yeah, that's exactly right. Hey,
I've gotta I have to end with with with a
(39:49):
a story on myself and I and Ron. I love
these things. I know you love these things. That these
situations where you you bought something and it turned out
to be something else, because you're going to learn something
and you can always use this as a teaching example.
So just yesterday out on my vibe by Burnhams beautiful
Viburnham's winterthur, you know which you know, the new growth
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is just it's you know, it's just beautiful. So I
was doing a little selective pruning, you know, kind of
keeping in bounds, and I'm looking at stem and I thought, oh, no,
I have a I have there's a scale on here,
there's a soft scale. I was. Then I got to thinking,
wait a second, what kind of scale? Insects?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You know?
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Can we find them? By Burnham? And in my mind
I'm running through the whole thing, and and you know,
I was really kind of flummox because I couldn't penant.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Then I looked closer, and you and I've talked about
this before, you know, I insects they go through they
can go through complete metamorphosis from egg to adult, like butterflies,
for example, monarchs complete change from it caterpillar to a butterfly. Well,
this insect had complete metamorphosis. It went from a scale
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insect to a plant hopper. How'd you like that? Just
totally jumped over into an entirely different order of insects. Well,
not entirely different order, I said, that run entirely different family,
So plant hoppers, and not all of them. But there's
a large group of plant hoppers out there that cover
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themselves in white material, white fluffy waxy material. And that's
what these plant hoppers were doing. And you and I've
talked about this many many times, haven't we. This is
not new. But what they really do like to have is,
you know, cool wet conditions. Oh what happened up until recently,
(41:49):
right up until very recently. So plant hoppers. They are
very common at this time of year, and they can
be high on ste Like I said, this is on
the viburnum. And that was much further off the ground
than I anticipated or would have expected. But it was
nice seeing plant hoppers rather than scales. Now plant hoppers
(42:11):
are sucking insects. A good example of a plant hopper
that doesn't produce, doesn't cover itself in waxing material, would
be spotted lanternfly. Right, that's a big non native insect.
So there are a lot of plant hoppers out there
that do not cover themselves in this white materials. But
again there's a whole group, and at first glance you
(42:33):
might think there are things like soft scales, mellie bugs,
what else, one of the wooly aphids or something that's bad.
Let's just say that plant hoppers really aren't causing any
great harm. They come and go, but they can be
fairly high on a plant. So take a second look
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if you think you have melli bugs or soft scales,
and it might be plant hoppers.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
As you said, they just to hop and go. That's
the name plant copper. Well done, top Buggy Joe Boggs
always I got. I'm gonna leave you with this teas
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I guess what I had in my yard this week,
backyard an eagle, And I'll leave you with that and
I'll tell you more about it next Saturday with the
Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Have a good weekend.
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Rawn had eight two three talk You're in the Garden
with Ron Wilson, the SCO
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. We're talking about yarding on this fourth
of July weekend. Hopefully had a great fourth yesterday, and
then of course we got to day and tomorrow gonna
be hot. Maybe you're gonna be at the pool and
grilling out or doing whatever. I hope you're not traveling, boy,
all those people on the roads. I'm glad I stayed
(00:55):
home and just watering the plants and trying to stay
cool as best you can. But you know, it's good
to have a good three day weekend. I'd keep your
minding myself. Yesterday, I don't know about you. That it
was Friday, didn't seem like Friday. It seemed like a
Saturday or a Sunday because of the holidays. Nevertheless, hot
out there, so keep up your watering as needed. And
(01:16):
of course, if you've got a lot of container plants,
a lot of hanging baskets that you're going to be
doing a lot of watering on a regular basis, remember
to continue to feed those maybe every couple of weeks.
You know, when you do a lot of watering, you
really leach a lot of those nutrients right on through
that soil and right out the bottom. So about every
couple of weeks or so, give them a little shot
(01:36):
of something, whether it be a water soluble miracle, grow jacks, fertilizer, peters,
fish emulsion. There's so many different options for you that
you can use. But it's important to do that and
continue to deadhead and pinch the back as needed to
keep them looking fresh, keep them looking full, you know.
And again as we go through this transition now getting
pretty solidly into the heat of the summertime, and all
(02:00):
you know, we see some yellowing and leaves, We see
some things cropping up. Don't panic. Pick the leaves off,
if they're spotted, maybe some issues that seems to be
spreading through the plant. Get a picture of it or
some samples to your local garden center. Let them take
a look at it, see if they can try to
determine what's going on. But you know, don't panic. But
it's we see a lot of that right now. I mean,
(02:20):
I look through a lot of my containers, I'm picking
leaves and doing things. Just because of that, some of
the things that kind of slowed down a little bit
because of the heat. As far as flowering, so you
know that happens occasionally too, but stick with them. But
if you're doing a lot of watering with those, make
sure you do keep the feeding going about every two
weeks or so. Really does work out nicely for you
(02:40):
to do that. Also on your list for next year.
If you did not plant Tithonia Mexican sunflower, if you
did not plant that, or maybe the garden center grower
did not grow those that you would be available for
you to plant. Put that on your list and make
sure they know about it as well. Tithonia has been
(03:02):
doing a great job. It's I like the orange, not
the yellow. I like the orange flowering so far, really bright, big,
bold plant. But it really brings in the pollinators, really
brings in the butterflies. That is a top of the
list when it comes to being a magnet for your
annual plantings. And you can do them in containers, do
them in the ground, whatever. But that thing is absolutely
(03:25):
outstanding called Tithonia t i. H o n Ia or
Mexican sunflower. Put that on your list and tell your
growers they need to grow it for next year if
they're not growing it and you will absolutely love it.
Trust me on that one. Secondly, I just finished planting
up a couple containers of cotton plants. That's right, I said,
(03:45):
cotton plants literally white cotton plants. They are tough, they
are durable, they're woody. They'll get about in a container.
They'll probably get about twenty four or thirty six inches
high and wide, I mean, pretty good sized. Plan think
about when they grow them in the fields. You know,
a big big plants, but there's a lot more of
(04:05):
the growers now growing cotton as an ornamental annual to
plant in your containers, to plant in your because when
if the leaves are cool, they look like a almost
like a poplar leaf, and like I said, it's kind
of woody, but the flowers look like hibiscus and they're
really nice, and they're multiple colors, so you get some
different colors on each of the plants. And then of course,
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after the flower is finished, you'll see that kind of
go back in. It'll close up form that big bulb,
and of course the cotton starts to form inside and
by the end of the summer that'll pop open and
guess what you got cotton. It's for real and it
looks so cool, and you can cut those and use
them in dried arrangements. I look at it and say,
this is one of those plants that if you've got
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kids or grandkids, and I know several teachers locally where
I live, will come and get those cotton plants every
year and grow them for their kids to see how
cottons grow, because a lot of kids don't understand that
a lot of folks don't understand what a cotton plant is.
It's fun, and the flowers are gorgeous, and the cotton's cool,
and it's a pretty easy one to take care of.
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They're tough and they are durable, very woody. But again,
if you if your grower hasn't grown cotton, and you
can grow them like small pots just like you do
your petunias and annuals and things like that, suggest that
they do that, and I think you will absolutely love
those as well. So Tithonia cotton. And one more I
want you to put on your on your list, Ruella
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Mexican petunia. Here's a plant that's bold, upright, kind of
maroonyish green leaves, really tough, takes the heat once it
gets established that you don't have to water quite as
often as you do everything else. And a lavender purple
flower that every day, these plants will have forty flowers.
(05:53):
They last for a day, they fall off in the evening.
The next day, forty five flowers, fall off in the evening,
next day, forty five flowers. They just keep getting a
few more every time. And it's absolutely unreal how easy
this plant is to go. It's called ruella. Are you
E L L A? Or Mexican petunia? So I want
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you to add those three plants to your plant lists,
your annual plant lists that if you haven't planted them before,
I want you to prime next year. And if your grower, local,
independent garden center or whatever doesn't grow them, give them
that list and have them to look into it because
they're very easy to grow for growers, and I guarantee
you they will sell them once folks learn about them.
(06:34):
They're absolutely crazy. Last, but not least, before we take
a break and we'll do a little home improvement with
mister Gary Sullivan. Still time to plant some things from seed,
believe it or not, in your vegetable garden. Don't forget
you know you still have time for succession plantings of
the late lake copp or crop of corn and read
the label see how long it takes to produce it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Beans.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You can still do cucumbers, you can still do a
lot of the different squash, and of course herbs can
still be planted in the gardens, so you've still got
time for that. Remember I've always used July fourth, that
week or weekend as much typically my cutoff for planting
tomatoes and peppers and things like that. You know, it
get gets pretty late into the season. Could you still
(07:15):
do it? Yeah, but these that you grow from seed
are quicker producers and we'll give you a nice crop
later in the season. You can even still grant plant
a zenias from seed. I think you'll get a good Kleiomi,
cosmos marigolds. If you still had some seeds, you can
still get those up and growing and flowering for the
fall season. So there are still a few of those
(07:35):
that you can still continue to plant if you're interested.
And there are still selections out there of sunflowers that
you can plant and still get the sunflower again late
summer early fall, which is great because we need those
plants at that time of the year for our pollinators.
And of course they'll still form the seed heads. Great
(07:55):
for the birds as well. I saw a picture the
other day. You hear me talking about the three Stingers,
Barbie Bletcher, our Queen Bee, Teresa Parker, and Nina Bagley.
Nina's the queen bee breeder, showed me a picture of
a patch of sunflowers that she planted. Didn't say anything
to anybody. It's really nice. So it looks like it's
about eight ten feet deep, about fifty feet long or so,
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just now starting to show a few flowers will start
flowering over the next several weeks. You know the thing
about sunflowers, and I boy, I told her I could outstanding.
It makes you smile. Everybody knows the sunflower. Kids know sunflowers,
adults know sunflowers. It makes you smile, It makes the
pollinator smile, It makes the wildlife smile. It makes everybody smile.
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I mean, for an all around plant that make everybody
smile and happy, and it's so good for the bees.
Phenomenals like medicinal for mendistal purposes. Honey bees absolutely totally
benefit from the nectar in the pollen from sunflowers. But again,
so good for all around and to really bring a
smile in everybody's faces. Our sunflow and anytime you can
(09:01):
plant sunflowers and do succession plantings, so you got them
in flower throughout the entire summer and into the fall season,
and they're pretty tough. They'll take some cooler temperatures later
in the season. That's why you'll see some of the
sunflowers and mixed containers available for you in September for
going into the fall. But still time to do those
as well. If you have not done that, get out
to your local garden center. Probably still got some seapacks
(09:23):
left over from sunflower seeds and you can get those
planeted and go from there. And if you don't get
them all planeted, just storm them, save them away and
plant them next year for you. But there's some plants
that you want to put on your list or still
plant yet this year to benefit from later in the
summer and fall season. Quick break, we come back a
little Home Improven from the Man the mid the legend
mister Gary Sullivan. Then at the bottom of the hour,
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Online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the Only
Mister Gary Slimon. Good morning, mister Wilson's Mister Sullivan, how
are you tolerating the heat?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Doing just fine?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What's the air conditioner? Said on it to Sullivon is
stead seventy five? Seventy five? Wow?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is that high or low?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We got ours a little bit lower than that. Yeah,
I must be getting older.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'll tell you what I thought.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You were supposed to be able to handle the heat
when you got older. I don't know how does that work?
I don't know, But when you're older, tell me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't have any I don't have any idea. I
just don't. Well, there's been a couple of hot days.
I think it depends what time of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Of course, you don't hit the pool anymore, do you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, not too much thought about it this week, but
upright and early and getting a lot of stuff done
in the morning before it heats up. We've had some
beautiful evenings and some beautiful mornings.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yep. Been in the evening evening outside work at the
Wilson household.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah yeah, pull of shades, get a good book between
two and four.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Crank back. Well, you know my problem is I do
enjoy reading. I've gotten better as I've gotten older. My
promise staying awake.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well that's all.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Everybody's get into about three pages and next thing I know,
I'm in the forty five minutes later.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, that's the way it works. But you're well rested.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Uh yeah, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So how's the vegetable gardens going this year's a yo?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yo? I talked to Uh, yeah, they have been. I
talked to Terry Diefenbaker and you I don't know if
you know Terry Knight Yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh he's,
you know, big tomato grower, his grandfather, I mean, the
whole family's been doing it for years. And I stopped
at his place and he said that he kind of laughed,
and he said, this is the latest ever that I
(15:01):
can ever remember from a kid of not having ripe
tomatoes yet.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And he planted. He told me I think May the
fourth or something like that, and he said, we've never
been this late having tomatoes, so they're coming on, you
know slow. My mom's or tips, she's usually typically got
some of the early producers by now, and she's just
barely getting a few. Talking with the giant pumpkin grower
Jerry Rose and again the weather ups and downs and
(15:29):
that got him a little bit late. But he finally
he's got him going. And I didn't. I don't. I'll
text you the picture. But he showed me a picture
this week of one of his pumpkins. It's three weeks
old and it weighs a little hundred three hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
When I saw that, he said, well, that's about three
weeks old. Is that you got to be kidding me? Wow, Sods,
maybe that's something you should get into. Pumpkin growing, the
giant pumpkin growing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I just tried to throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, missus, you get into it, what Danny, missus Sullivan
and you get into it?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see the two of you
doing that. Yeah, all right, here's my home. I proven
question for today. It has to do a staining.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh no, gosh, you cleaned it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
This is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're
pat I got excited. This is a wooden tray that
my wife bought that you open up, it's got it's
about fifteen inches in diameter. It's got a little lip
around the outside. You open up the wooden legs or
on hinges, and you set it on the your hand,
the arm of your chair and use it like a
tray and then take it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Off okay while you're napping.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
While you're napping, and hope you don't wake up and
knock it off and spill your coke everywhere. Yeah, and
it's a plain it's not stained all right, snatcher wood.
And she went to stain it the other day. She
went and bought one of the I think it was
an oil base stained minwag, one of the mind wax varieties.
But anyway to go, and it just doesn't penetrate. It's
like it's all over the board.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was the first thing I was going to ask you,
you know what kind of good it is?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No, and I need to take a look at it.
But it just did not do it. I mean, it's
just dark and white and light and it's so.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It has differenties, right, Yeah, the wood has different parosseass
Is it one solid piece of wood or is it No?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think it's piece together.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. And you know the
interesting thing about wood stain versus paint, right, of course,
pain is a coating. You know, you go you pick
out a color and you put it on the surface,
and that's the color you get. With stain, you're going
to get what the wood is, walnut wood stain in
one brand and put it on twelve different species of
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woods and it'll look like twelve totally different colors. Yeah,
and if it's piece together, that's probably what you're getting.
You can you can do something about that. You can
put a a conditioner on that wood which will even
out the porosity. Okay, so it would be like it's
called stained conditioner or wood can. You can make your own.
(18:01):
It's fifty percent h denatured alcohol and fifty percent lact
and you'll put that on and you know, the real
softer porse woods like pine will absorb more than an
oak wood. You'll kind of even that out to a degree.
But that might be something.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right now, what what she has already put on there?
It didn't work right, We're gonna to stand that off, right, Yeah,
that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Okay, you know, you can't really tell the differences in
the wood. I mean, it looks pretty much the same
color as you look at it, and I don't see
any grains that really stand out, you know, like major right,
But yeah, it just and I you know, she was
doing a project by herself. I didn't really pay any attention.
I would have known anyway, but uh, and she just said,
I just can't it's not sticking on this, like it's
(18:50):
just running off and dark hair and light there and
not good.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, and you never know, there could be some seal
or in that wood.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, that was my other thing that they may have
pre sealed. That could be it didn't look like it,
but it could have been pre sealed, which them standing
it would help. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I mean another thing we don't know is sometimes, depending
on how old it is, they would actually use natural
wood and wax it. Oh and of course that's going
to resist any penetrating oil sealer too, right. And you
can you can get some of that out, but it's
really hard to get all of it out because as
you say, and you create heat, he creates melt milk
(19:30):
contributes to the prow it away. Yeah, there's also some
real heavy bodied stains, kind of like the gel stains,
which can kind of hide a lot of that too.
It's it's not quite a coating, but it's not really
like an oil penetrating stain either.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You want to come over about four today? Sure, okay, sure,
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Bring your tray and you're a recliner with you again?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
What are you going to talk about today?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
My gosh, I got a whole limp number projects and
we're gonna be outside and you.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Won't but you're gonna talk about I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Gonna get you to motivate. We're gonna do some work outside.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Gary Solomons website, Garysullivan online dot com. Thank you, sir,
have a great show. Ben coming up next, Buggy Joe
Boggs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:34):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com. As I promised, of course, it is time
for the buggy Joe Boggsy Port Joe Buggs. It's just
a professor, commercial holder, coach, youre educator. We're the old
house Stein University Extension, no issue, Department of Entomology. Don't
laugh at me. Post a boy for the OSU extension.
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Don't laugh at me. Co creator mathor coffee for him.
Don't laugh at me, b yg L. I know is
you dot edie you ladies and gentlemen, the mister commons itself,
Bucky Joe Bugs.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You know I love the addition of you know in
my in my intro, don't laugh at me, don't laugh
at me. I'm going to start I'm going to start
adding that, and I'm going to start saying, yes, I'm Joe,
don't laugh at me, Bogs.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Right, Yes, let's do that. Yeah, don't laugh at me.
So you stay cool? Are you staying cool?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Yeah? And cool thing? And well, actually, you know, it
wasn't as bad yesterday as what I anticipated. While I
was out mowing around and doing other things and mowing around,
mowing around and around, just mowing around in circles. That's
exactly right there, random mowing, random. It was interesting that
(23:56):
we are seeing some turf diseases out there that really
are making the ground look off. I guess probably little
brown Patch, Little brown Patch. And you know what's strange
to me about it is, I mean, it's been a
strange spring. You guys were talking about in summer, talking
about tomatoes, but you know, brown patch. It's not uncommon
(24:18):
to have it sort of creep in, you know, as
a temperature's warm up, but it seemed to kind of
happen a little bit earlier this year. I mean, we
were starting to pick up brown patch went from red
thread to brown patch. I like all these colorful names.
I think about that just now, red and brown. But
here's the challenge between those two diseases. One of them,
(24:41):
red thread indicates that you have not enough nitrogen. Brown
Patch can indicate that you have too much. Don't you
love it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I have both of them on my lawn at the
same time.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Well, that means, joke, you need to just move. You
need to just sell the house and move. So that's
our best advice.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I've actually very rarely seen that, but but I have
seen it. And when I've seen it, it's usually indicates
that there's something underground there, there's something going on where
you have variability in the soil, which brings us to
you know, I need to hear a drum roll. It
(25:29):
brings us to soil testing. You know, we just did
I mentioned it last week. I was mentioned again too,
So we did an Ossue Extension fact sheet on soil
testing on how to soil test for horticultural needs. And
then Gary, our good friend Gary Gal with o issue
(25:50):
hort and crop science. I always have to remember that
wild grapes scary.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Gal.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I just posted a fact sheet on on selecting a
soil testing lab. So the two taken together just means
that you have plenty of information on getting this done.
It's easy to do, and it really does provide a
lot of help. I have a saying when I'm teaching
about this that let the soil select your trees, you know,
(26:20):
let the soil select your plants. And very often, you
know this ron that when people are struggling with getting
to something, that getting something to grow that they really
want to grow and you know, want to do well,
it comes down to soil. And that includes vegetable gardens.
You know, very often people be struggling along. I had
(26:41):
some pictures, you know, you're talking about tomatoes, some pictures
from a lawn from a vegetable garden sent to me
earlier this season, and it turned out the person did
you know, finally do the soil test and the tea.
Each of that soil was almost like limestone, which you
(27:03):
know can happen down in our neck of the woods
in Cincinnati where you can have very high pH. But
theirs was like seven point nine, which is do I
hear a gasp? I mean it was just.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like I actually I actually got a guy sent me
had the soil tested between a sidewalk in the house
and it ranged from seven nine to eighty four. Ge
Whizz or g Willie.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Now that's ge the reason why I I couldn't help myself.
I took a drink of coffee and then you said
eight point flour and I thought, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He had a test it and it was like, really,
oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, and it's hard, and a person might be a
good gardener out there probably thinking well, Ge Whiz, how
do you like me? How do you lower the pH?
And that can be difficult. You know, it's something like
I'm gonna use in acid of fire like sulfur. It's
going to be you know, it's not going to be
easy because usually very high pH indicates that beneath your
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feet you have some type of a limestone like material
that's constantly contributing to the pH rising and from about
if you've picture Ohio, for example, in the middle of
the state, to the west, we have soils that we
call karst soils ka arst, and that means that there's
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a lot of limestone beneath your feet. To the east
you have more shale. You have acinic shales, you have
acinic sands. So it's just the opposite. But the point
being is that that if this told the person something
very important, because limestone has a pH of around eight
point three. So if you're starting to get something higher
(28:54):
than limestone, that's telling you something else is going on.
For example, I'm not saying the person did this that
had eight point four. That could just be a little
bit of anomaly just in a very small area. But
if you start getting really well above limestone, things like soaps.
For example, we had a very high reading on a
(29:15):
test about ten twelve years ago. I say we because
I was, you know, working with the individual because they're
really struggling, and it turned out that they just bought
the house. As I recall, turned out, the previous owner
was using this area to get rid of gray water.
So they were yes, so soaps. You know, you can
(29:38):
get a very high fee depending on what type of
soaps are being used in that gray water. And again
someone may not even well. I surprised me. I actually
didn't know that would happen either. So if you start
getting a phi's extremely high, it's telling you that something
else is going on there. But that's actually the exception
to the rule. Usually we don't see extremely high PhD.
(30:02):
But the point if a person the garden that I
was talking about, though, I mean they were the tomatoes
were just sitting there, and it wasn't just the weather,
it was just in the previous year well. As a
matter of fact, they told me that they had never
done well in their vegetable garden. It was that they
were struggling every year. And of course, finding out that
(30:23):
the pH was so high, it's going to take time
for them. It's not going to be an immediate response
when you add an acidifier, but at least they know
what to do. Or you can have a nutrient deficiency,
which is you know, very bad, don't just throw fertilizer
at plants. We need to know exactly, you know, what
(30:43):
is going on there, what is the need. And that's
again where soul testing comes in. And it's something that
is an old extension recommendation, I mean years and years ago,
but still remains extremely important.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That a lot of people, well don't listen to.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Me.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Seriously, they don't, you know, you talk about soil testing
all the time, and they still kind of saying, I'll
just throw some more fertilizer on it. Yeah, I mean seriously,
I mean, I mean, you know, I'm not trying to
be funny. I still remember Joe when soil testing and
we've always and like you said, it's been around forever,
it's nothing new, been pushing it forever. Always have your
(31:23):
soil testing. Twenty five years ago, twenty years ago whatever,
I was at a rose show with a rose group
and I never forget. Somebody said was talking to me
about they actually they have been rose grower for a
long long time. And a couple three four years ago,
the rose hole, all the rose beds started to just
roses started to lose their vigor and they just weren't
(31:44):
doing well. And they tried all kinds of new fertilizers
and mulching and stuff like that. Nothing happened, and somebody
suggested they had an extension agent or somebody come out
and so, why don't you get soil testing? Well you
know what I'm saying. And somebody come out that I
don't know who was, but anyway, I think it was
an extension and said why don't you get the soil tested?
And they said, we never had a soil tested. And
they said, yeah, you need to have tests and see
(32:05):
what is and it came back to pH was the
same way it was in the mid to hide sevens,
and so the in course roses don't like that, and
so they made it. They made adjustments to the soil,
and the following year the rose beds were back to
like they should have been, or like they were many
years ago. And they said, we never ever took it
(32:26):
seriously about having the soil tested nor looking at the
pH level of the soil. And I'll always remember that
as a as a testimonial. And these were professional rose growers,
you know that just kind of said no, you don't
really have to do that. And somebody finally said, yeah,
you really do. And I'll give extension credit house that Yeah,
(32:48):
it was an extension agent. Yeah that's it. Well, you
know it's interesting, Yeah, extension that was it. But yeah,
you know, and I've always remembered that. And again, it's
so many people don't take that seriously, and you really should,
even if it's in a raise bed or whatever, every
(33:09):
now and then have it tested just to see where
it is, you.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Know it is. It's interesting because, like you said, it's
a very old it's a very old recommendation, but you know,
to kind of help the professional professionals out there. You
and I hear this every so often. Well, my clients
won't pay the extra dollars. Well, you know, I before
the break. Here here's the analogy that I use. If
(33:34):
you went in to see your doctor, you know, there's
something really terribly wrong, you know, something's not right, and
they just start, you know, feeding your pills. They just say, okay,
we'll take these and maybe that'll help, and you know,
just do this and maybe that'll help. And you realize, well,
there was never a blood test done to find out
exactly why I am tired or why something's not right,
(33:56):
and they just started That's exactly like what you said.
In terms of well, I'll just apply a little more fertilizer.
Maybe that's what it needs. It's exactly the same thing.
So if a professional tells you, I'm saying this for
some of the gardeners out there, if you have a
professional says that we would like to get your sol tested.
Your lawn's not looking very very good. We want to
(34:17):
see what's going on. They again, the charge may be
in there that you have to pay it, because it's
the same thing as if your doctor says, of course
you have no choice now right, you're going to get
a blood test. It's exactly the same thing. Ye agree,
I think a break is upon us, is right?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
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Talking yard name eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five Time for part two of the Budget Joe
Barge Report O SU Extension Website by g L dot
O s U dot E D You. I have a
real quick question for you. Yes, sir, does the tick test?
Somebody asked me, don't you have to send in a
(37:21):
live tick when you send that in and I said, well,
if you pulled it off of your out of you,
I don't think it's still be a probably not still alive.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
No, that's right, if it doesn't need to be because
they you know, the way that what they look for
is gonna still be viable as long as it doesn't
get heated. That's the one thing. He'll put it in
the front window of your car drive around. Uh So, no,
it doesn't have to it does not have to be alive.
And it's a good idea. But here's the other thing
(37:52):
about it. I don't know if I'm comfortable these days,
you know with and of course you know, either one
of those or medical professionals, but pulling a tick off
has its own risks, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, And I
uh and of course, but.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I mean, I mean, but is that funny when you
and I were kids, Yeah, and even even if folks
as old as Gary Sullivan when he was a kid, Yeah,
you know, you had a tick on you just you know,
of course back then somebody pulled a cigarette out and
or something like that to get to let go you know,
oh you let go of that sure out, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You just then you have a burn on your burn.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And whatever, or you would just pull it off, you
know exactly. I didn't think anything about it. You picked
it off and kind of made sure it was kind
of cleared out, and you went on about your.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Business and there you go, there you go, and and
then sometimes it didn't work out so well. I mean,
you know, sometimes the you know, the the mouth parts
were left in. You know, that happened to me once,
and then you had to go see the doctor because
then they have to do a little bit more. But
because of the challenges with some of the pathogens and
(39:05):
the you know, the possibility of them being squeezed into
your your your system, it's and other reasons. It's just
a good idea if you have a tick stuck on you,
it's a good idea if you get into a professional
to have them have that taken care of in the
proper way. Again, there's all kinds of of of how
(39:26):
to's right, there's all kinds of you can yeah, you
can do that, but it's just yeah, it's just better
to get you know, to get some help, as they say,
for you and I get some professional. Yeah, that's exactly right. Hey,
I've gotta I have to end with with with a
(39:49):
a story on myself and I and Ron. I love
these things. I know you love these things. That these
situations where you you bought something and it turned out
to be something else, because you're going to learn something
and you can always use this as a teaching example.
So just yesterday out on my vibe by Burnhams beautiful
Viburnham's winterthur, you know which you know, the new growth
(40:14):
is just it's you know, it's just beautiful. So I
was doing a little selective pruning, you know, kind of
keeping in bounds, and I'm looking at stem and I thought, oh, no,
I have a I have there's a scale on here,
there's a soft scale. I was. Then I got to thinking,
wait a second, what kind of scale? Insects?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You know?
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Can we find them? By Burnham? And in my mind
I'm running through the whole thing, and and you know,
I was really kind of flummox because I couldn't penant.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Then I looked closer, and you and I've talked about
this before, you know, I insects they go through they
can go through complete metamorphosis from egg to adult, like butterflies,
for example, monarchs complete change from it caterpillar to a butterfly. Well,
this insect had complete metamorphosis. It went from a scale
(41:06):
insect to a plant hopper. How'd you like that? Just
totally jumped over into an entirely different order of insects. Well,
not entirely different order, I said, that run entirely different family,
So plant hoppers, and not all of them. But there's
a large group of plant hoppers out there that cover
(41:27):
themselves in white material, white fluffy waxy material. And that's
what these plant hoppers were doing. And you and I've
talked about this many many times, haven't we. This is
not new. But what they really do like to have is,
you know, cool wet conditions. Oh what happened up until recently,
(41:49):
right up until very recently. So plant hoppers. They are
very common at this time of year, and they can
be high on ste Like I said, this is on
the viburnum. And that was much further off the ground
than I anticipated or would have expected. But it was
nice seeing plant hoppers rather than scales. Now plant hoppers
(42:11):
are sucking insects. A good example of a plant hopper
that doesn't produce, doesn't cover itself in waxing material, would
be spotted lanternfly. Right, that's a big non native insect.
So there are a lot of plant hoppers out there
that do not cover themselves in this white materials. But
again there's a whole group, and at first glance you
(42:33):
might think there are things like soft scales, mellie bugs,
what else, one of the wooly aphids or something that's bad.
Let's just say that plant hoppers really aren't causing any
great harm. They come and go, but they can be
fairly high on a plant. So take a second look
(42:54):
if you think you have melli bugs or soft scales,
and it might be plant hoppers.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
As you said, they just to hop and go. That's
the name plant copper. Well done, top Buggy Joe Boggs
always I got. I'm gonna leave you with this teas
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I guess what I had in my yard this week,
backyard an eagle, And I'll leave you with that and
I'll tell you more about it next Saturday with the
Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Have a good weekend.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
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Speaker 1 (43:24):
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