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as well, And as I promised, you know, we'd like
to stay up to date with what's going on with
our pollinators out there, and of course very important of course,
our bee's a very important part of the pollinator process
as well. And then of course we go to anytime
we got questions about bees, you know who we go to.
We go to our queen Bee, Barbie b let your
good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Good morning eight.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is there a silver bullet out there yet for that
for all might?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh no, that do what we We are working on it,
but it's it's slow. But there are three new products,
so we have a few more tools in the two box.
But the thing is just like any other past on
any other living thing. We have to learn to use
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the right product at the right time and target the mights,
you know, when they are actively damaging or before they
actively damage our bees. We have to target our timing
better and use the right product. So so is a
learning process for us. But there's no magic bullet yet.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And the reason I ask her if you listen to
us our show on a regular basis, you know, the
number one problem out there with the honeybee has been
these Verroa mites which have caused all kinds of problems.
And of course, Joe Strecker, who's in the captain's chair today,
of course laughing in the background, hoping somewhere along the
conversation you'll bring up bee diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, no sema. No sema is still still active, not
as active as it was maybe five to eight years ago.
But we do have cases of no sema, especially in
the spring. No Sema serrana was is the more active one.
It may be occurring right now, but we don't have this.
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We don't see the symptoms. So if the colonies are
not as then do not have as many bees as
they should acting kind of sluggish. You should sample them
and test them for no sema.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
See Joe just said when you should sample them. When
Joe samples something that means eating or drinking.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It, well, if he wants to eat them, there a
high source of vitamins nutrients.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
One of my early mentors, she would pick the drones
right out of the cells and eat them.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, well, you know what, that's what honey? I bet
they taste it. Yeah, you're right, done, tastes like chicken.
They taste like honey. I'll bet that's one thing. Buggy
Joe Boggs will I cannot get him to eat a
bug to save our lives.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, I've eaten all kinds of insects now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Joe just will not have anything to do with it
for some reason, I'm not sure. Talking with Barbie Butcher,
she has our Queen Bee, uh, getting our update with
with bees and honey bees around the country and how
what's going on. So, you know, between the three stingers
and pictures that I've seen, looks like the honey production
for the summer looked pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, it's been surprisingly good with all the rain we've had. No,
it's rain so much. I think we're like some parts
of Ohio are four or five inches above normal, which
is just ridiculous. And I just that's kind of the
seminar where they're saying that we're getting more rain or
water or aer terrainfall is slowly increasing every year. So
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it's harder for the bees to get out when it's raining,
and it's hard for the So the bees have to
dry their honey out to you know, eighteen percent moisture
if that's possible, eighteen nineteen percent moisture. How do you
dry out? How do you air condition the hive and
dry out the honey when it's humid and raining all
the time. It's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How do they do that?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How do they.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Buzz?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They buzz their wings they can actually disconnect their flight muscles,
so they they turn on, they basically fan them with
their wings and try to dry them out, just like
you had air conditioned your house.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How do they know it's eighteen percent?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They have one very smart bee that walks along and measures.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It all, one of the one of the male worker bees.
We know, we don't. I don't want to go there,
so anyway. Yeah, so it did seem like and I'm
sure it varied all around the state and by state,
but it seemed like some pretty good honey production going there.
Beekeeper down, you know that's also sharing on our nursery
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with his hives, had a real good, good production of
honey as well. So it seems like a few people
that I have talked to around the state have done
fairly well so far.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The key is if you take your honey off now,
and most people have taken their honey off. We sometimes
we get greedy and we take too much money, too
much honey off in the fall, and if we don't,
if we have a dry fall and we don't have
good nectar production in the Golden Nods, they won't replace
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all the honey that we take off. So we you
know we Ohio, at least central region here, we should,
you know, take our honey off now and then plan
to leave whatever they make now, let them keep it
so just in case.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So from this point forward, and it's not going to
have with all the beekeepers, but from this point forward,
you would suggest, being the queen bee and the expert
that you are, that for the most part, at this
point forward, we leave what's there for the rest of
the year. No more honey harvesting.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
At least unless you are checking your colonies. And commercial
beekeepers have a whole different world than the sideliners do.
But our colonies should weigh eighty pounds going into the winter.
And so if we have a drought, which we usually
do in August September, they're not going to be bringing
in more nectar. And then they don't have any. And
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we see that every year we take the honey off,
they don't replace it because we have a drop. I'm
thinking that the Golden Rocks this ye're going to have
plenty of nectar just because we've had so much rainfall.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, and I remember, and we're going to talk about
this after the break, But I remember last year, uh,
you commenting when Joe and I were talking about the
fact that in the dryer fall, and it was extremely
dry fall all through the state for the most part.
When it's really dry like that, pollen production also goes down.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Same thing with soybeans.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I read ye interesting talk with Barbie but Butcher. She
is our Queen Bee. By the way, I was reading
something about bees in the in the southeastern part of
the United States. You know, they've started, and I'm sure
you're aware of this. A great Southeastern pollinator census. Yes,
just like the just like the wild backyard bird count.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think that that's what way it needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
More well, yeah, I guess it's expanding and they're hoping
more states catch you onto this. But it's kind of
the same thing as the backyard wild bird count, is
that you sit down and for a certain amount of
time clock or or document what kind of pollinators show
up on your pollinator plants.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I thought people have no idea of all the little
solitary bees and flies and everybody else that visits our flowers.
If you just spend an hour, you know, watching the
flowers in your yard, you'll be amazed to see how
many different species visit your.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Flowers and that's when you need that book the bees
in your backyard so you can go and identify all
the ones that are out there. But you know the
Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo and again I'm sure you're ware
of this, but they several years ago actually sent a
group of it, like high school interns volunteers with cameras
and they said, every time you stop and you see
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things on flower, take pictures of it. And they went
through and they took all of that information back, identified
what they found on those pictures, and they said, anytime
you see it, just stop and click, stop and click,
stop and click. That's part of your job. And that's
how they helped to come up with their best pollinator
plants based on what they saw in the botanical garden
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and what was actually visiting the different flowers. I thought
that was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And it's great for students to see that, any age
to see that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, well, I think this great Southeastern pollinator says it's
I hope this catch is on all the way around
and for anybody listening to us in the Southeast if
you want to learn more about it. Their website is
g s E PC g S E pc dot org
and learn more about it. And I think it's coming
up here very shortly and you can help out do
a census for the pollinators. By the way, are you
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going to be in Lansing, Michigan next weekend? It's their Bpalooza.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I might be up there. Actually, I've been to that.
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I understand. And of course the Michigan State University puts
us on at their horticulture gardens in Lansing, and I've
heard this. It's an all day event. Bring your kids
and bring the family and whatever. But I've heard it's
a pretty cool thing.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh and they have expansive gardens, so you have children's gardens,
herb gardens, all kinds of gardens. It's a it's a
beautiful campus. Even though it's in that state up north.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know what, Hey, we have we have something in
common with Michigan State. We needed one of us, like
Michigan Michigan. I go Barbie Bletcher, the Queen Bee with
us this morning at a quick break we come back.
We're going to talk about now we're a rounding third,
we're getting into the end of the season. Now, what
do we do to help out these pollinators as we
finish out the year, especially the way the falls have
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been the last couple three years. Stand warmer longer into
the season, actually not a good thing for those bees.
And we'll find out why and what you can do
to help after the break Here in the Garden with
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in the Garden with Ron Wilson, Special guests this morning.
Our Queen Bee, Barbie b Letcher, always keeping us well
updated as far as what's going on with the bees
out there. So Barbie, we're now, believe it or not,
winding down the summer season looking into the fall, crazy stuff.
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And you know, you would think, at least any way
I think this your gut feeling is warm, nice, fall
last longer, blah blah blah, good for the bees, but
really not so much, not so.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Much all right now in the Midwest, bees, whether you're
commercial or sideliner, hobby beekeeper, bees are gearing up for
the winter. They are no longer drawing out a lot
of comb. They are concentrating on storing honey for the winter.
They you know, I'm trying to think what I want
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to say. They are they storing honey. So one, we
need to make sure that we have healthy bees because
of eggs that the queen is laying this month, those
are going to be the bees that will survive our winter.
So if they're sick, they have mites, they have viruses, whatever,
they're not going to survive the winter. And we have
these beautiful, strong colonies that look like they look strong,
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but they're full of nights or full viruses. So about
halfway through the winter, we think our bees are nice
and strong, but the bees are all dying off from
various virus and secondary problems, so that we don't have
enough bees to cover the brood. We don't have enough
bees to be able to find honey in the hive,
and then they die. So this is a really important
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month to have healthy bees. So we need to check
for NC, we need to check for no sema, and
we need to make sure that the bees are storing
plenty of honey.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And pollen for the winter, and Joe checking for no sema.
Remember does this mean sampling, doesn't mean eating one of them?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, you don't want to eat especially, that's right, not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
A good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So when we have these.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Long falls, you know, a goldln afters about the last
plants to bloom. After that, we don't have any any
natural nectar or pollen for the best to find. So
what are they going to do. They're going to rob
from their neighbors. So they steal honey from other colonies.
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And it's the strong you know, the strongest beets survived,
so they're stealing honey from each other. That we've got
yellow jackets who are competing as well, and your colony
it seems very strong. It can go from having you know,
eighty pounds of weight down to nothing within a few weeks,
just because the bees are robbing each other. So when
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it's warm and you know, October, November, even December, bees
have no food. They're eating what they have stored, and
they can dive before we even go into the winter.
So it's very crucial time to be checking our colonies.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's crazy. And of course I know a lot of
folks are saying, well, can't he feed the bees. Aren't
there commercially made products, those cakes or whatever that you
can feed the bees to the winter. I mean, that
stuff's out there, but it's still not the honey.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's not nutritionally complete. And a lot of the pollen
substitutes that we give to bees, they're they're not even digestible.
Bees don't digest soy bean flour. They don't digest. It
goes right through them. So it's we don't have a
good way to feed the bees. I have a beekeeper
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friends who actually painted his frames with his own frozen
nectar stuff, and that seems I get helped a little bit.
But we don't have a good way of getting the
food to the bees where they need it, and none
of that stuff is nutritionally complete.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well that's crazy. So so for you know, if you're
a homeowner, you're sitting there thinking what can I do?
Think about the things. The flowers that glass laid into
the season asters and of course those are going to
be available here to garden centers going in the fall season.
Cone flowers continue to go right to the end. Golden rod,
which Barbie mentioned there both and natively you'll see golden
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rod everywhere. No, that's not ragweed. It's golden rod. And
there are selections that are available for your landscape as well,
so you can plant those. A lot of the seedums
like autumn joy in that will flower later in the
summer season, great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Source pollinator, loves seed a great great pollinator. Food.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sunflowers. There's still a lot of sunflowers that will flower
late into the season. Uh So, look at those zennias
will last until the frost, a good heavy frost finally
takes them out. Black eyed Susans, and we just planted
more of those in our landscape because you know they
last forever. Joe Pye weed ironweed, leatrus agastaki, Russian sage
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will hang in there for some time. So keep all
of those in mind, get as many of those planeted
out there as you can to continue on. And you
know the other one that's still I was saying earlier.
If somebody has a garden and they have a you know,
a ten by ten or ten by fifteen area that's
blank right now. You've taken on tomatoes. You can still
plant buckwheat right now.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And have that flowering in about sixty days and that
stuff will flower for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah. In herbs, you know a lot of the herbs,
oh yeah, and such still last a long time. And
bees like all of those borage.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
The bays will let them go to seed or let
them go to flower and go to seed. Let all
those happen because they really need and water as well.
So it's important from this point out to do everything
we can now to make those flowers and make that
nectar and pollen sources available as long as we can
into the fall season. Barbie Bletcher, always a pleasure, always
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great information. And again if folks are up in the Lansing, Michigan, area.
MSU does a great job. It's called the Bee Palooza.
It's on the August twenty fourth, from one until fourth.
You can be sure and check that out as well.
Barbie Blas and for the whole family. There you go.
That's always great information. Really appreciate you spending time with
us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Thank you. Ron.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, Barbie Bletcher our Queen Bee. We'll take a
quick break we come back. Somebody ask about hydrians, you know,
do some do? They all help out the pollinators, not
all of them. I'll tell you which ones are best
to plant which She'll give you some late color sometimes
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if you are in the Southeast States, I think five
states now that are doing this, they're having their Great
Southeast Pollinators Census next Friday and Saturday. To learn more
about it gs e PC dot org, and that would
be Great Southeast Pollinator Census g s e PC dot org.
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Tell you all about it fifteen minutes, count pollinators on
a plant for fifteen and try to identify what they are.
And I think it's a great idea. I hope this
goes around the whole country. So that's a great way
to find out what's going on out there in our
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can get involved, because I think it's a great idea.
By the way, we're talking about late flowering plants and
things for pollinators, and somebody brought up this week about hydrangeas,
which I see bees on some of my hydrangees and
I don't see bees on some of my hydrangees. You know,
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which are the best? Who? They all attract pollinators and
they don't. Some are better than others. Some are sterile
flowers that have nothing so they have nothing to offer
to pollinators, the bees, whatever, and some do. Typically with
your lace cap hydrangeas, in most cases those attract pollinators.
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So they do have those fertile florets that are and
they have the steril ones as well, but they have
fertile ones and they do have off offer apollen and nectar.
So lace cap hydrange is for the most part, Yes,
Piniculata hydrange is depending on the selection, but they're pretty
good about it as well. Oakley hydrange is pretty good
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about it as well. But the arborescens, all right, the
arborescens which is also called wild Hydrangea, are probably the best. Now.
Some of the cultivars Annabelle for instance, some of the
cultivars are sterile flowers, so you have to you have
to look at that particular cultivar if you're using a
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cultivar to find out whether it's good or not. As
a matter of fact, there's a chart out I found
I went online this week that tells you whether they
are which selections are good for pollinators. There's a lot
of them, but arborescens Oakley for the most part, penicula
is for the most part, and lace cap hydrangs do
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very well. Mopads usually like the macrofil mopad types usually
not too good, but again depends on which ones you
have as far as what they'll do. And by the way,
I probably have gotten more reports over the last two
or three weeks about leaf spot or longer on hydrangees,
especially the macrophilo types, and I think you know, the
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weather sets you up for these leaf spots. There's a
couple of them that they can get, and once you
notice them and they're on there, it looks bad. Sometimes
can cause a little stem dieback occasionally, not often, but
it just looks bad. And once you see it like
that again, remember a lot of these diseases, Once you
see it and you realize it's there's not a whole
lot you can do about it. But other than the
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fact that if you get it year after year, then
you may want to stry do a preventative spraying with
fung of sides next year to prevent it from happening.
But on macrofila types, I see that's one of it,
termed pink or blue. I see that on them more
because most of the time these also show up when
plants are really stressed. Now they can all get it
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in a nursery. If you have overhead irrigation, that just
sets them up for a lot of leaf spots. So
sometimes you go to the nursery to buy hydrangea, you'll
see leaf spots on a lot of them. That's basically
from the overhead watering that sets them up for a
leaf disease. But it's not water spots, it's from a
leaf disease that doesn't work. That's a myth. But a
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lot of times when I see this really bad on
these hydrangeas, it's because they're under a lot of stress.
And I think the thing to remember, especially with the
macro files, is that they do best with morning sun
afternoon shade. That's the bottom line. And you stick those
out into full sun or eleven o'clock on sun, whatever
may be, that afternoon hot, afternoon sun that just really
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for the most part, takes them back. Yep. I see
every now and then some that make it through that,
but it really does set them up for other issues
because the plant is so stressed and I'm seeing some
right now that the whole tops is like they are
cooked flowers in all. And that's what that's from. And
I've suggested to most folks if those were and most
of them had that afternoon sun, is that this fall
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sometime late September early October, dig those up, put them
in an area where it's morning sun, afternoon shade, and
you'll find they'll fly, you know, have less die back,
they'll flower better, and you'll have less of that leaf
spot on those hydranges. But it's pretty common to have
it out there It's usually mostly more aesthetic than anything else.
And once you have it, this time of the year
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is too late to do thing about it besides collect
them up and then you know, decide whether you want
to start of preventive program next year or in that
case where the macro file is, if they're in a
full sun area, move them to their morning sun afternoon shade.
That's where they That's where almost all hydrangees do the best.
But the peniculatas in the oak least they'll take the sun.
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As long as you keep them watered, they'll they'll tolerate
that as well. And boy, they put on a show
this year. Wow, have we had a great show with
most of the hydranges except for the pacrofileusts to Boston.
We go ol, good morning, good money.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes sir, yeah, I had a question to be better.
I had a question that we got to sawdust. I
have the access to a company that can provide sawdust,
not pressure treated sawdust, but.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Like oak pine mahogany.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What are the beneficial uses for it in the garden
bed or on the lawn or just I shouldn't bottle
with it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
The thing about sawdu can you use it? Yeah, absolutely,
and I would use it as a top dressing, not
as a soil amendment unless you've composted it. So if
they can get it to you and you can compost it,
put a little organic matter in with it and kind
of get it to start to break down a little
bit and do some composting. Once you start to do that,
(26:57):
you can use it as a as a soil amendment
to actually till into the soil. But the actual sawdust
itself I would use only as a possible top dressing
and pathways. I wouldn't use it on the lawn as
far as a top dressing like a compost but definitely
don't use it as a soil amendment because as that's
(27:19):
as a wood breaks down, it's like with the chips.
As that wood starts to break down, it just sucks
the nutrients out of the soil for that decomposing process,
and so the next thing, you know, everything around it's
really suffering. But if we compost it and get it
to start breaking down automatically and then you've got a
little the microbes going and the nutrients going, then you
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add it as a soil amendment, then you're okay. But
otherwise it can't cause you some issues, but as a
top dressing, not an issue.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Okay, Yeah, any species I should avoid, like maybe not
use mahogany or preferential to pine.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, not necessarily, I don't. I don't think so. If
you use pine or whatever in the evergreens, obviously it
will take a little longer for it to break down
as you're using it for you know, if you put
it in a compost pile, it'll take a little bit longer. Walnut,
of course, has the jug loan in it, which can
cause issues with some plants. I'm not sure how long
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that jug loan would last in wood walnut that's been
processed for use. I'm assuming it's like a furniture place
or something that's using that you're getting to saw us from. Yeah,
I don't know about the walnut and the jug loan
in there that that possibly could be an issue. But
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other than that, no, I don't think i'd mixed it
all together. And again, I think the best thing to
do is do some composting. And if you start that
now and do that through the winter, adding organic matter
to it, it'd be great in the springtime. All right,
I'll good talking with you. Quick break, we come back.
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three eight two. Good morning, I am wrong Wilson, your
personal yard boy. Winding down the summer season. Can't believe
that two weeks we're gonna be into the meteorological fall
season September October November. Let me tell you something fall.
You've heard us say it a million times. It's true.
Fall is a great time for planting. Even if it
stays warmer a little bit longer, Even if it stays
if we don't get the normal rainfalls that we do
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and is dry, it's still one of the best times
to get out of plant especially trees, evergreen shrubs, whatever
may be, new landscaping, screen plantings, pollinator plants, perennials. It's
it's a great time. And the thing about so good
about fall is that it's an extended planting season. Think
about this. You know, in the springtime, it get rain,
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he get cold, it's up and down, it's wet, it's
falling out, you know whatever. Next thing, you know, you're
right into the summer season. In the fall, the weather
seems to be more consistent, usually halfway decent, and you've
got September, October, November, and in many cases most of December.
You may have three or four months for planting. Now,
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it's good to get everything planted in September, October ish,
maybe even early November, so they can it can actually
start to root in. And one of the reasons we
plant in the fall that makes it such a great
thing is that more roots are developed in the fall
than any other time the rest of the year. So
as their tops are shutting down at the end of
the season, their roots are firing up and they actually
produce more roots, so you get a jumpstart on next
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year's routing. So that's one of the many reasons why
fall is such a great time for planting. So get
your plans in place. If you're going to be some
adding some trees or evergreens, or maybe you want professional
design and landscape for the fall season, you better get
your name in the pot right now. Get that designer
out there, figure out what you're going to do. Get
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your name on the list so that when the weather,
you know, we get into September October, you'll be high
on the list as far as getting your landscape installed.
So please keep that in mind. Also, how's your lawn
looking right now? Have you really gotten out and taken
a look at the lawn? In many cases, a lot
of them look pretty darn green. We've had some timely rainfalls,
we are certainly not in most cases in our area.
(32:10):
Ron Roeth has said he still has been short at
the rainfall in his area, and he's like fifteen miles
south of where I live, and we've been just when
you just think it's ready to start turning on the irrigation,
it rains and a good shower. It kind of helps
the supplement a little bit. Now again, he kind of
knows his bonuses. So I'm watching the moisture in the soil.
(32:31):
But it's been enough to keep us going and haven't
had the water except the individual plants that are newly planted,
also in containers obviously, but he hasn't gotten even close
to what we've gotten. But nevertheless, looking at most lawns
and his is the same way. He's still looking good,
good and green. But if you look close, you know
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last fall really did a number on a lot of
lawns then amount we weren't able to get out and
seed because it was dry, et cetera. And as we
get into the spring season a lot and greened up,
but it wasn't exactly what you want in those spots
as far as greeting up. And right now crab grass
is unbelievable. I can't I've never seen so much crabgrass
(33:12):
in my life. I don't think this is a banner
year for crabgrass. So if you need to redo the lawn,
if you need to redoce some areas in your lawn,
if you need to overseed the lawn, if you need
to core aerate the lawn, if you need to feed
the lawn, which you do that first feeding, and those
are coming up in about two or three weeks. The
best time for seeding in our area cool season grasses
(33:36):
is August fifteenth. Oh, guess what, we're right there through
the end of September, maybe the first week of October.
Not blue grasses late, but all the rest of them,
no problem. So you know, if you're going to clear
out an area that you've got a lot of weeds
and other grasses, you don't want it there anymore, and
you want to spray and get rid of everything and
start all over, you need to do that now. You
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need to get on that right away. And I still
I you know, you can use whatever you want. If
a lot of the organic types of vegetation killers strictly
burn the tops off, don't do any of the roots.
To keep that in mind, they kill the tops off.
The glyphosate, which is no longer in the round up
(34:20):
for homeowners. This is what I'm saying. It's no longer
in the round up for homeowners. The glyphosate I still
meet personally is still the one I recommend for total
vegetation kill. You can get that in Fertile Homes Kills
All Fertile home only available at independent garden centers. Kills
All is still glyphosate. If you look at the round up,
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and I bring this up every time, this when we
know that we're getting into a season where it's time
to start doing a little treatment of their weeds, you know,
vegetation killing round Up change their formula. This is the
formula for homeowner use, all right, and it's now three chemicals.
I need you to, if you're curious, get one of
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their labels, print out and then see you'll see what
the three chemicals are and learn more about them. And
you can see what what they put in there. Uh,
so you know more about them, like we always say,
read the label. And of course the when you can
come back in and recede or replant or whatever has
totally changed. And so their timing is different than what
(35:25):
the old roundup was, uh. For I was just listening
to OSU Turf Turf team yesterday and they were talking
about again they were kind of brought this up a
little bit about the fact that remember, if you're using
that one, don't forget it's totally different formula than just
the glyphosate, and they they recommend it for receding after
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you put this down to wait maybe two weeks, whereas
with glyphosate they tell you a week. But you could
once I dry it on there, you almost could come
in with it a couple of days. And I'm not
telling you to do that, but you could. But with
a new formula from round Up, it's a longer period
of time to wait. But so again, kills all Furnilom
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is still the g life of State if that's what
you're looking for, and you'll get that at independent garden centers.
But read the label. And again, if you're looking to
kill something out, you need extended time to make sure
you kill it all out before you come back in
and core, air rate and see and feed and do
all the things you want to do. Well, guess what
you need to get on that right now so that
that air of those areas will be ready for you
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come September, all right, because we're two weeks away, so
you need to make sure you take care of that.
So get out this weekend, evaluate the lawn. What do
you need to do to make it the best lawn
in the neighborhood. And you know, and again cultural practices
are very important. Timely mowing, keep up with the mowing.
Irrigating is needed, spot treat the weeds is needed, et cetera,
(36:51):
et cetera. But it's also this is a good time
for receding. If you've got turf type tall fescue, which
I highly recommend turf type tall fescue we're seeing now
that is a good thing to do a little overseating
about every three four five years, very light overseating to
help thicking it back up again. And of course you're
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two feedings in the fall as well and core aerating.
September October absolutely outstanding times to core aerate as well.
Don't forget to put a little light composts in there
the top dress rake that back in those holes that
you put in the ground with the core aerating. Your
lawn will love you for it, Your soil will love
you for it. Your earthworms will love you for it
(37:34):
as well. And every time it does rain or every
time you irrigate. Now you've opened up that soil, and
now it goes down in those little holes, and now
that compost starts to get in there and brings your
soil alive, and the microbes are working, and the earth
worms are happy. And when the earth worms are happy,
it's like when mom is happy. If the earth worms
are happy, the plants are gonna be happy, and they're
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gonna root in better, and you're gonna have a better
turf and better plants in general. So core adding a
little compost on there absolutely wonderful. As a matter of fact.
As we get into the fall season and you are
planting and adding new trees and shrubs and propping beds
or whatever it may be, you should have on hand,
excuse me, a bag of pine soil conditioner, a bag
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of the cow, a bag of compost anything, or your
own compost. And hopefully you've started a compost pile. And
this is a great time of the year to do
that because of all the leaves are going to be
dropping and the sticks and that you can put them
in the compost pile as well as mowing back into
the turf. But again, compost, adding organic matter back to
your soil. Every time you have the opportunity and every
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time you have the opportunity to top dress with organic matter,
do it. Anytime you have an opportunity to add more
organic matter to the soil as you're planting, do it.
If you've got a power auger and those power planters,
those things are outstanding well built. You know, it's a
great way to go through your existing beds and drill
down about to ten or eight ten twelve inches, come back,
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you know, put a hole in there about an inch
inch and a half a diameter, and come back and
put a little compost down in those holes or of
the cow or something like that, and add to those holes.
Now you just did the same thing you would have
done when you're core errating, and now the existing landscape
plants are benefiting from that as well. So again, add
organic matter when you have an opportunity. Always have some
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bags on hand or your own compost file, and always
keep adding organic matter back to your soil any opportunity
that you could. Your plants, your worms especially, will love
you for it. If the worms are happy, your plants
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as well, And as I promised, you know, we'd like
to stay up to date with what's going on with
our pollinators out there, and of course very important of course,
our bee's a very important part of the pollinator process
as well. And then of course we go to anytime
we got questions about bees, you know who we go to.
We go to our queen Bee, Barbie b let your
good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Good morning eight.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is there a silver bullet out there yet for that
for all might?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh no, that do what we We are working on it,
but it's it's slow. But there are three new products,
so we have a few more tools in the two box.
But the thing is just like any other past on
any other living thing. We have to learn to use
(01:38):
the right product at the right time and target the mights,
you know, when they are actively damaging or before they
actively damage our bees. We have to target our timing
better and use the right product. So so is a
learning process for us. But there's no magic bullet yet.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And the reason I ask her if you listen to
us our show on a regular basis, you know, the
number one problem out there with the honeybee has been
these Verroa mites which have caused all kinds of problems.
And of course, Joe Strecker, who's in the captain's chair today,
of course laughing in the background, hoping somewhere along the
conversation you'll bring up bee diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, no sema. No sema is still still active, not
as active as it was maybe five to eight years ago.
But we do have cases of no sema, especially in
the spring. No Sema serrana was is the more active one.
It may be occurring right now, but we don't have this.
(02:39):
We don't see the symptoms. So if the colonies are
not as then do not have as many bees as
they should acting kind of sluggish. You should sample them
and test them for no sema.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
See Joe just said when you should sample them. When
Joe samples something that means eating or drinking.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It, well, if he wants to eat them, there a
high source of vitamins nutrients.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
One of my early mentors, she would pick the drones
right out of the cells and eat them.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, well, you know what, that's what honey? I bet
they taste it. Yeah, you're right, done, tastes like chicken.
They taste like honey. I'll bet that's one thing. Buggy
Joe Boggs will I cannot get him to eat a
bug to save our lives.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, I've eaten all kinds of insects now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Joe just will not have anything to do with it
for some reason, I'm not sure. Talking with Barbie Butcher,
she has our Queen Bee, uh, getting our update with
with bees and honey bees around the country and how
what's going on. So, you know, between the three stingers
and pictures that I've seen, looks like the honey production
for the summer looked pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, it's been surprisingly good with all the rain we've had. No,
it's rain so much. I think we're like some parts
of Ohio are four or five inches above normal, which
is just ridiculous. And I just that's kind of the
seminar where they're saying that we're getting more rain or
water or aer terrainfall is slowly increasing every year. So
(04:17):
it's harder for the bees to get out when it's raining,
and it's hard for the So the bees have to
dry their honey out to you know, eighteen percent moisture
if that's possible, eighteen nineteen percent moisture. How do you
dry out? How do you air condition the hive and
dry out the honey when it's humid and raining all
the time. It's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How do they do that?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How do they.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Buzz?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They buzz their wings they can actually disconnect their flight muscles,
so they they turn on, they basically fan them with
their wings and try to dry them out, just like
you had air conditioned your house.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How do they know it's eighteen percent?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They have one very smart bee that walks along and measures.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It all, one of the one of the male worker bees.
We know, we don't. I don't want to go there,
so anyway. Yeah, so it did seem like and I'm
sure it varied all around the state and by state,
but it seemed like some pretty good honey production going there.
Beekeeper down, you know that's also sharing on our nursery
(05:26):
with his hives, had a real good, good production of
honey as well. So it seems like a few people
that I have talked to around the state have done
fairly well so far.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The key is if you take your honey off now,
and most people have taken their honey off. We sometimes
we get greedy and we take too much money, too
much honey off in the fall, and if we don't,
if we have a dry fall and we don't have
good nectar production in the Golden Nods, they won't replace
(06:01):
all the honey that we take off. So we you
know we Ohio, at least central region here, we should,
you know, take our honey off now and then plan
to leave whatever they make now, let them keep it
so just in case.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So from this point forward, and it's not going to
have with all the beekeepers, but from this point forward,
you would suggest, being the queen bee and the expert
that you are, that for the most part, at this
point forward, we leave what's there for the rest of
the year. No more honey harvesting.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
At least unless you are checking your colonies. And commercial
beekeepers have a whole different world than the sideliners do.
But our colonies should weigh eighty pounds going into the winter.
And so if we have a drought, which we usually
do in August September, they're not going to be bringing
in more nectar. And then they don't have any. And
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we see that every year we take the honey off,
they don't replace it because we have a drop. I'm
thinking that the Golden Rocks this ye're going to have
plenty of nectar just because we've had so much rainfall.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, and I remember, and we're going to talk about
this after the break, But I remember last year, uh,
you commenting when Joe and I were talking about the
fact that in the dryer fall, and it was extremely
dry fall all through the state for the most part.
When it's really dry like that, pollen production also goes down.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Same thing with soybeans.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I read ye interesting talk with Barbie but Butcher. She
is our Queen Bee. By the way, I was reading
something about bees in the in the southeastern part of
the United States. You know, they've started, and I'm sure
you're aware of this. A great Southeastern pollinator census. Yes,
just like the just like the wild backyard bird count.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think that that's what way it needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
More well, yeah, I guess it's expanding and they're hoping
more states catch you onto this. But it's kind of
the same thing as the backyard wild bird count, is
that you sit down and for a certain amount of
time clock or or document what kind of pollinators show
up on your pollinator plants.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I thought people have no idea of all the little
solitary bees and flies and everybody else that visits our flowers.
If you just spend an hour, you know, watching the
flowers in your yard, you'll be amazed to see how
many different species visit your.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Flowers and that's when you need that book the bees
in your backyard so you can go and identify all
the ones that are out there. But you know the
Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo and again I'm sure you're ware
of this, but they several years ago actually sent a
group of it, like high school interns volunteers with cameras
and they said, every time you stop and you see
(08:59):
things on flower, take pictures of it. And they went
through and they took all of that information back, identified
what they found on those pictures, and they said, anytime
you see it, just stop and click, stop and click,
stop and click. That's part of your job. And that's
how they helped to come up with their best pollinator
plants based on what they saw in the botanical garden
(09:21):
and what was actually visiting the different flowers. I thought
that was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And it's great for students to see that, any age
to see that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, well, I think this great Southeastern pollinator says it's
I hope this catch is on all the way around
and for anybody listening to us in the Southeast if
you want to learn more about it. Their website is
g s E PC g S E pc dot org
and learn more about it. And I think it's coming
up here very shortly and you can help out do
a census for the pollinators. By the way, are you
(09:54):
going to be in Lansing, Michigan next weekend? It's their Bpalooza.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I might be up there. Actually, I've been to that.
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I understand. And of course the Michigan State University puts
us on at their horticulture gardens in Lansing, and I've
heard this. It's an all day event. Bring your kids
and bring the family and whatever. But I've heard it's
a pretty cool thing.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh and they have expansive gardens, so you have children's gardens,
herb gardens, all kinds of gardens. It's a it's a
beautiful campus. Even though it's in that state up north.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know what, Hey, we have we have something in
common with Michigan State. We needed one of us, like
Michigan Michigan. I go Barbie Bletcher, the Queen Bee with
us this morning at a quick break we come back.
We're going to talk about now we're a rounding third,
we're getting into the end of the season. Now, what
do we do to help out these pollinators as we
finish out the year, especially the way the falls have
(10:49):
been the last couple three years. Stand warmer longer into
the season, actually not a good thing for those bees.
And we'll find out why and what you can do
to help after the break Here in the Garden with
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in the Garden with Ron Wilson, Special guests this morning.
Our Queen Bee, Barbie b Letcher, always keeping us well
updated as far as what's going on with the bees
out there. So Barbie, we're now, believe it or not,
winding down the summer season looking into the fall, crazy stuff.
(12:11):
And you know, you would think, at least any way
I think this your gut feeling is warm, nice, fall
last longer, blah blah blah, good for the bees, but
really not so much, not so.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Much all right now in the Midwest, bees, whether you're
commercial or sideliner, hobby beekeeper, bees are gearing up for
the winter. They are no longer drawing out a lot
of comb. They are concentrating on storing honey for the winter.
They you know, I'm trying to think what I want
(12:50):
to say. They are they storing honey. So one, we
need to make sure that we have healthy bees because
of eggs that the queen is laying this month, those
are going to be the bees that will survive our winter.
So if they're sick, they have mites, they have viruses, whatever,
they're not going to survive the winter. And we have
these beautiful, strong colonies that look like they look strong,
(13:14):
but they're full of nights or full viruses. So about
halfway through the winter, we think our bees are nice
and strong, but the bees are all dying off from
various virus and secondary problems, so that we don't have
enough bees to cover the brood. We don't have enough
bees to be able to find honey in the hive,
and then they die. So this is a really important
(13:37):
month to have healthy bees. So we need to check
for NC, we need to check for no sema, and
we need to make sure that the bees are storing
plenty of honey.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And pollen for the winter, and Joe checking for no sema.
Remember does this mean sampling, doesn't mean eating one of them?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, you don't want to eat especially, that's right, not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
A good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So when we have these.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Long falls, you know, a goldln afters about the last
plants to bloom. After that, we don't have any any
natural nectar or pollen for the best to find. So
what are they going to do. They're going to rob
from their neighbors. So they steal honey from other colonies.
(14:23):
And it's the strong you know, the strongest beets survived,
so they're stealing honey from each other. That we've got
yellow jackets who are competing as well, and your colony
it seems very strong. It can go from having you know,
eighty pounds of weight down to nothing within a few weeks,
just because the bees are robbing each other. So when
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it's warm and you know, October, November, even December, bees
have no food. They're eating what they have stored, and
they can dive before we even go into the winter.
So it's very crucial time to be checking our colonies.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's crazy. And of course I know a lot of
folks are saying, well, can't he feed the bees. Aren't
there commercially made products, those cakes or whatever that you
can feed the bees to the winter. I mean, that
stuff's out there, but it's still not the honey.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's not nutritionally complete. And a lot of the pollen
substitutes that we give to bees, they're they're not even digestible.
Bees don't digest soy bean flour. They don't digest. It
goes right through them. So it's we don't have a
good way to feed the bees. I have a beekeeper
(15:32):
friends who actually painted his frames with his own frozen
nectar stuff, and that seems I get helped a little bit.
But we don't have a good way of getting the
food to the bees where they need it, and none
of that stuff is nutritionally complete.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well that's crazy. So so for you know, if you're
a homeowner, you're sitting there thinking what can I do?
Think about the things. The flowers that glass laid into
the season asters and of course those are going to
be available here to garden centers going in the fall season.
Cone flowers continue to go right to the end. Golden rod,
which Barbie mentioned there both and natively you'll see golden
(16:10):
rod everywhere. No, that's not ragweed. It's golden rod. And
there are selections that are available for your landscape as well,
so you can plant those. A lot of the seedums
like autumn joy in that will flower later in the
summer season, great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Source pollinator, loves seed a great great pollinator. Food.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sunflowers. There's still a lot of sunflowers that will flower
late into the season. Uh So, look at those zennias
will last until the frost, a good heavy frost finally
takes them out. Black eyed Susans, and we just planted
more of those in our landscape because you know they
last forever. Joe Pye weed ironweed, leatrus agastaki, Russian sage
(16:51):
will hang in there for some time. So keep all
of those in mind, get as many of those planeted
out there as you can to continue on. And you
know the other one that's still I was saying earlier.
If somebody has a garden and they have a you know,
a ten by ten or ten by fifteen area that's
blank right now. You've taken on tomatoes. You can still
plant buckwheat right now.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And have that flowering in about sixty days and that
stuff will flower for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah. In herbs, you know a lot of the herbs,
oh yeah, and such still last a long time. And
bees like all of those borage.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
The bays will let them go to seed or let
them go to flower and go to seed. Let all
those happen because they really need and water as well.
So it's important from this point out to do everything
we can now to make those flowers and make that
nectar and pollen sources available as long as we can
into the fall season. Barbie Bletcher, always a pleasure, always
(17:46):
great information. And again if folks are up in the Lansing, Michigan, area.
MSU does a great job. It's called the Bee Palooza.
It's on the August twenty fourth, from one until fourth.
You can be sure and check that out as well.
Barbie Blas and for the whole family. There you go.
That's always great information. Really appreciate you spending time with
us this morning.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Thank you. Ron.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, Barbie Bletcher our Queen Bee. We'll take a
quick break we come back. Somebody ask about hydrians, you know,
do some do? They all help out the pollinators, not
all of them. I'll tell you which ones are best
to plant which She'll give you some late color sometimes
as well. Plus we're taking your calls at eight hundred
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if you are in the Southeast States, I think five
states now that are doing this, they're having their Great
Southeast Pollinators Census next Friday and Saturday. To learn more
about it gs e PC dot org, and that would
be Great Southeast Pollinator Census g s e PC dot org.
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Tell you all about it fifteen minutes, count pollinators on
a plant for fifteen and try to identify what they are.
And I think it's a great idea. I hope this
goes around the whole country. So that's a great way
to find out what's going on out there in our
backyards kind of. It's a follow up to the Great
Backyard Bird Count that Cornell Lab puts on every year
as well. So I just cool idea. So you know,
(21:18):
if you're in those states that are participating with us,
get involved, and if you're not, find out how we
can get involved, because I think it's a great idea.
By the way, we're talking about late flowering plants and
things for pollinators, and somebody brought up this week about hydrangeas,
which I see bees on some of my hydrangees and
I don't see bees on some of my hydrangees. You know,
(21:40):
which are the best? Who? They all attract pollinators and
they don't. Some are better than others. Some are sterile
flowers that have nothing so they have nothing to offer
to pollinators, the bees, whatever, and some do. Typically with
your lace cap hydrangeas, in most cases those attract pollinators.
(22:00):
So they do have those fertile florets that are and
they have the steril ones as well, but they have
fertile ones and they do have off offer apollen and nectar.
So lace cap hydrange is for the most part, Yes,
Piniculata hydrange is depending on the selection, but they're pretty
good about it as well. Oakley hydrange is pretty good
(22:22):
about it as well. But the arborescens, all right, the
arborescens which is also called wild Hydrangea, are probably the best. Now.
Some of the cultivars Annabelle for instance, some of the
cultivars are sterile flowers, so you have to you have
to look at that particular cultivar if you're using a
(22:43):
cultivar to find out whether it's good or not. As
a matter of fact, there's a chart out I found
I went online this week that tells you whether they
are which selections are good for pollinators. There's a lot
of them, but arborescens Oakley for the most part, penicula
is for the most part, and lace cap hydrangs do
(23:03):
very well. Mopads usually like the macrofil mopad types usually
not too good, but again depends on which ones you
have as far as what they'll do. And by the way,
I probably have gotten more reports over the last two
or three weeks about leaf spot or longer on hydrangees,
especially the macrophilo types, and I think you know, the
(23:27):
weather sets you up for these leaf spots. There's a
couple of them that they can get, and once you
notice them and they're on there, it looks bad. Sometimes
can cause a little stem dieback occasionally, not often, but
it just looks bad. And once you see it like
that again, remember a lot of these diseases, Once you
see it and you realize it's there's not a whole
lot you can do about it. But other than the
(23:48):
fact that if you get it year after year, then
you may want to stry do a preventative spraying with
fung of sides next year to prevent it from happening.
But on macrofila types, I see that's one of it,
termed pink or blue. I see that on them more
because most of the time these also show up when
plants are really stressed. Now they can all get it
(24:11):
in a nursery. If you have overhead irrigation, that just
sets them up for a lot of leaf spots. So
sometimes you go to the nursery to buy hydrangea, you'll
see leaf spots on a lot of them. That's basically
from the overhead watering that sets them up for a
leaf disease. But it's not water spots, it's from a
leaf disease that doesn't work. That's a myth. But a
(24:32):
lot of times when I see this really bad on
these hydrangeas, it's because they're under a lot of stress.
And I think the thing to remember, especially with the
macro files, is that they do best with morning sun
afternoon shade. That's the bottom line. And you stick those
out into full sun or eleven o'clock on sun, whatever
may be, that afternoon hot, afternoon sun that just really
(24:53):
for the most part, takes them back. Yep. I see
every now and then some that make it through that,
but it really does set them up for other issues
because the plant is so stressed and I'm seeing some
right now that the whole tops is like they are
cooked flowers in all. And that's what that's from. And
I've suggested to most folks if those were and most
of them had that afternoon sun, is that this fall
(25:16):
sometime late September early October, dig those up, put them
in an area where it's morning sun, afternoon shade, and
you'll find they'll fly, you know, have less die back,
they'll flower better, and you'll have less of that leaf
spot on those hydranges. But it's pretty common to have
it out there It's usually mostly more aesthetic than anything else.
And once you have it, this time of the year
(25:36):
is too late to do thing about it besides collect
them up and then you know, decide whether you want
to start of preventive program next year or in that
case where the macro file is, if they're in a
full sun area, move them to their morning sun afternoon shade.
That's where they That's where almost all hydrangees do the best.
But the peniculatas in the oak least they'll take the sun.
(25:57):
As long as you keep them watered, they'll they'll tolerate
that as well. And boy, they put on a show
this year. Wow, have we had a great show with
most of the hydranges except for the pacrofileusts to Boston.
We go ol, good morning, good money.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes sir, yeah, I had a question to be better.
I had a question that we got to sawdust. I
have the access to a company that can provide sawdust,
not pressure treated sawdust, but.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Like oak pine mahogany.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What are the beneficial uses for it in the garden
bed or on the lawn or just I shouldn't bottle
with it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
The thing about sawdu can you use it? Yeah, absolutely,
and I would use it as a top dressing, not
as a soil amendment unless you've composted it. So if
they can get it to you and you can compost it,
put a little organic matter in with it and kind
of get it to start to break down a little
bit and do some composting. Once you start to do that,
(26:57):
you can use it as a as a soil amendment
to actually till into the soil. But the actual sawdust
itself I would use only as a possible top dressing
and pathways. I wouldn't use it on the lawn as
far as a top dressing like a compost but definitely
don't use it as a soil amendment because as that's
(27:19):
as a wood breaks down, it's like with the chips.
As that wood starts to break down, it just sucks
the nutrients out of the soil for that decomposing process,
and so the next thing, you know, everything around it's
really suffering. But if we compost it and get it
to start breaking down automatically and then you've got a
little the microbes going and the nutrients going, then you
(27:39):
add it as a soil amendment, then you're okay. But
otherwise it can't cause you some issues, but as a
top dressing, not an issue.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Okay, Yeah, any species I should avoid, like maybe not
use mahogany or preferential to pine.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, not necessarily, I don't. I don't think so. If
you use pine or whatever in the evergreens, obviously it
will take a little longer for it to break down
as you're using it for you know, if you put
it in a compost pile, it'll take a little bit longer. Walnut,
of course, has the jug loan in it, which can
cause issues with some plants. I'm not sure how long
(28:20):
that jug loan would last in wood walnut that's been
processed for use. I'm assuming it's like a furniture place
or something that's using that you're getting to saw us from. Yeah,
I don't know about the walnut and the jug loan
in there that that possibly could be an issue. But
(28:41):
other than that, no, I don't think i'd mixed it
all together. And again, I think the best thing to
do is do some composting. And if you start that
now and do that through the winter, adding organic matter
to it, it'd be great in the springtime. All right,
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personal yard boy. Winding down the summer season. Can't believe
that two weeks we're gonna be into the meteorological fall
season September October November. Let me tell you something fall.
You've heard us say it a million times. It's true.
Fall is a great time for planting. Even if it
stays warmer a little bit longer, Even if it stays
if we don't get the normal rainfalls that we do
(30:20):
and is dry, it's still one of the best times
to get out of plant especially trees, evergreen shrubs, whatever
may be, new landscaping, screen plantings, pollinator plants, perennials. It's
it's a great time. And the thing about so good
about fall is that it's an extended planting season. Think
about this. You know, in the springtime, it get rain,
(30:40):
he get cold, it's up and down, it's wet, it's
falling out, you know whatever. Next thing, you know, you're
right into the summer season. In the fall, the weather
seems to be more consistent, usually halfway decent, and you've
got September, October, November, and in many cases most of December.
You may have three or four months for planting. Now,
(31:04):
it's good to get everything planted in September, October ish,
maybe even early November, so they can it can actually
start to root in. And one of the reasons we
plant in the fall that makes it such a great
thing is that more roots are developed in the fall
than any other time the rest of the year. So
as their tops are shutting down at the end of
the season, their roots are firing up and they actually
produce more roots, so you get a jumpstart on next
(31:26):
year's routing. So that's one of the many reasons why
fall is such a great time for planting. So get
your plans in place. If you're going to be some
adding some trees or evergreens, or maybe you want professional
design and landscape for the fall season, you better get
your name in the pot right now. Get that designer
out there, figure out what you're going to do. Get
(31:46):
your name on the list so that when the weather,
you know, we get into September October, you'll be high
on the list as far as getting your landscape installed.
So please keep that in mind. Also, how's your lawn
looking right now? Have you really gotten out and taken
a look at the lawn? In many cases, a lot
of them look pretty darn green. We've had some timely rainfalls,
we are certainly not in most cases in our area.
(32:10):
Ron Roeth has said he still has been short at
the rainfall in his area, and he's like fifteen miles
south of where I live, and we've been just when
you just think it's ready to start turning on the irrigation,
it rains and a good shower. It kind of helps
the supplement a little bit. Now again, he kind of
knows his bonuses. So I'm watching the moisture in the soil.
(32:31):
But it's been enough to keep us going and haven't
had the water except the individual plants that are newly planted,
also in containers obviously, but he hasn't gotten even close
to what we've gotten. But nevertheless, looking at most lawns
and his is the same way. He's still looking good,
good and green. But if you look close, you know
(32:52):
last fall really did a number on a lot of
lawns then amount we weren't able to get out and
seed because it was dry, et cetera. And as we
get into the spring season a lot and greened up,
but it wasn't exactly what you want in those spots
as far as greeting up. And right now crab grass
is unbelievable. I can't I've never seen so much crabgrass
(33:12):
in my life. I don't think this is a banner
year for crabgrass. So if you need to redo the lawn,
if you need to redoce some areas in your lawn,
if you need to overseed the lawn, if you need
to core aerate the lawn, if you need to feed
the lawn, which you do that first feeding, and those
are coming up in about two or three weeks. The
best time for seeding in our area cool season grasses
(33:36):
is August fifteenth. Oh, guess what, we're right there through
the end of September, maybe the first week of October.
Not blue grasses late, but all the rest of them,
no problem. So you know, if you're going to clear
out an area that you've got a lot of weeds
and other grasses, you don't want it there anymore, and
you want to spray and get rid of everything and
start all over, you need to do that now. You
(33:59):
need to get on that right away. And I still
I you know, you can use whatever you want. If
a lot of the organic types of vegetation killers strictly
burn the tops off, don't do any of the roots.
To keep that in mind, they kill the tops off.
The glyphosate, which is no longer in the round up
(34:20):
for homeowners. This is what I'm saying. It's no longer
in the round up for homeowners. The glyphosate I still
meet personally is still the one I recommend for total
vegetation kill. You can get that in Fertile Homes Kills
All Fertile home only available at independent garden centers. Kills
All is still glyphosate. If you look at the round up,
(34:43):
and I bring this up every time, this when we
know that we're getting into a season where it's time
to start doing a little treatment of their weeds, you know,
vegetation killing round Up change their formula. This is the
formula for homeowner use, all right, and it's now three chemicals.
I need you to, if you're curious, get one of
(35:04):
their labels, print out and then see you'll see what
the three chemicals are and learn more about them. And
you can see what what they put in there. Uh,
so you know more about them, like we always say,
read the label. And of course the when you can
come back in and recede or replant or whatever has
totally changed. And so their timing is different than what
(35:25):
the old roundup was, uh. For I was just listening
to OSU Turf Turf team yesterday and they were talking
about again they were kind of brought this up a
little bit about the fact that remember, if you're using
that one, don't forget it's totally different formula than just
the glyphosate, and they they recommend it for receding after
(35:47):
you put this down to wait maybe two weeks, whereas
with glyphosate they tell you a week. But you could
once I dry it on there, you almost could come
in with it a couple of days. And I'm not
telling you to do that, but you could. But with
a new formula from round Up, it's a longer period
of time to wait. But so again, kills all Furnilom
(36:09):
is still the g life of State if that's what
you're looking for, and you'll get that at independent garden centers.
But read the label. And again, if you're looking to
kill something out, you need extended time to make sure
you kill it all out before you come back in
and core, air rate and see and feed and do
all the things you want to do. Well, guess what
you need to get on that right now so that
that air of those areas will be ready for you
(36:30):
come September, all right, because we're two weeks away, so
you need to make sure you take care of that.
So get out this weekend, evaluate the lawn. What do
you need to do to make it the best lawn
in the neighborhood. And you know, and again cultural practices
are very important. Timely mowing, keep up with the mowing.
Irrigating is needed, spot treat the weeds is needed, et cetera,
(36:51):
et cetera. But it's also this is a good time
for receding. If you've got turf type tall fescue, which
I highly recommend turf type tall fescue we're seeing now
that is a good thing to do a little overseating
about every three four five years, very light overseating to
help thicking it back up again. And of course you're
(37:12):
two feedings in the fall as well and core aerating.
September October absolutely outstanding times to core aerate as well.
Don't forget to put a little light composts in there
the top dress rake that back in those holes that
you put in the ground with the core aerating. Your
lawn will love you for it, Your soil will love
you for it. Your earthworms will love you for it
(37:34):
as well. And every time it does rain or every
time you irrigate. Now you've opened up that soil, and
now it goes down in those little holes, and now
that compost starts to get in there and brings your
soil alive, and the microbes are working, and the earth
worms are happy. And when the earth worms are happy,
it's like when mom is happy. If the earth worms
are happy, the plants are gonna be happy, and they're
(37:54):
gonna root in better, and you're gonna have a better
turf and better plants in general. So core adding a
little compost on there absolutely wonderful. As a matter of fact.
As we get into the fall season and you are
planting and adding new trees and shrubs and propping beds
or whatever it may be, you should have on hand,
excuse me, a bag of pine soil conditioner, a bag
(38:17):
of the cow, a bag of compost anything, or your
own compost. And hopefully you've started a compost pile. And
this is a great time of the year to do
that because of all the leaves are going to be
dropping and the sticks and that you can put them
in the compost pile as well as mowing back into
the turf. But again, compost, adding organic matter back to
your soil. Every time you have the opportunity and every
(38:39):
time you have the opportunity to top dress with organic matter,
do it. Anytime you have an opportunity to add more
organic matter to the soil as you're planting, do it.
If you've got a power auger and those power planters,
those things are outstanding well built. You know, it's a
great way to go through your existing beds and drill
down about to ten or eight ten twelve inches, come back,
(39:03):
you know, put a hole in there about an inch
inch and a half a diameter, and come back and
put a little compost down in those holes or of
the cow or something like that, and add to those holes.
Now you just did the same thing you would have
done when you're core errating, and now the existing landscape
plants are benefiting from that as well. So again, add
organic matter when you have an opportunity. Always have some
(39:24):
bags on hand or your own compost file, and always
keep adding organic matter back to your soil any opportunity
that you could. Your plants, your worms especially, will love
you for it. If the worms are happy, your plants
are going to be happy. Eight hundred eight two three
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