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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy talking about
yard ding. What do you say we kick off our
show with a cup of Joe mister Joe Strecker, our
executive producer. He's in charge of our website at Ron
Wilson online dot com and Facebook page. In the garden
with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir. Not not in the
Captain's chair this morning. Nope, Daniel is back from his
(00:55):
time off. It was a special appearance only, special appearance
only dance in the captain's chair. He's back, got his
captain's hat on. He's back the captain Durango kid Captain. Yeah,
I wonder where he got that. What's it That captain's
hat looks kind of on him? Maybe was he boating?
Maybe Doctor Z left that here. You know he always
(01:16):
has some goofy hats. I don't think Doctor Z had
a hat like this. He This is like a I
got Captain Steu being like nice thing. Yeah, yeah, remember
he had to eat or drink more egg nog or
something that wore that all the time. Something like, Yeah,
he was kind of crazy when it comes the hat
kind of crazy doctors. He was kind of crazy. It
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comes to hats anyway, he's listening. Oh, sure, I'm glad
he is. We got one. Well, sweetheart may be awake.
I don't think so. So it's a great week. Great
week for you. You had off, you had a couple
of days off, days off, and it wasn't too crazy
(01:58):
with the weather. I mean they were predicting like one
hundred and five ten heat in Nexus. I don't I
don't think it hit that high. I don't know. I
wasn't here, Okay, I was out of town. You. I
was up in Port Clinton, Putting Bay ooh go fishing. No,
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it was overcast every day and in the seventies, low eighties.
Nice sprinkled every now and then, but no big deal.
So yeah, we did the islands up there, which I've
never been up there before. Fun and of course kids
are back in school, so it wasn't that busy. Most
of the crowd was forty five and up. Not a
lot of screaming, you know, twenty five thirty year olds
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like it. Put In Bay's supposed to be pretty wild
and crazy, but it was fun. We had a good time.
I've never been up there before. If you've never done
it before, you gotta do it good. Two or three
day fun. Speaking of that, because I'm a member of
the y. Yeah, all this summer it was just like
you were battling the kids in the pool or in
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the weight room or whatever. Monday, on my day off,
I went in there for half an hour. No kids, nobody,
a school stuss old people you know what that commercial
spe was the most wonderful time of the year that
they were shopping for the kids, getting them back to school,
singing that song. I enjoy I missed our kids when
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he went back to school. I don't know about you.
With Gracie and I always took I always took their
first day of school off so I could get them
on the bus. Yeah, I mean I enjoyed that. But
then the second day I was back to here. Well yeah,
but I kind of missed them. We always had fun
in the summertime. So but anyway, it was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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It was hot, but it wasn't one oh five one
ten like they were predicting, And I think it was Wednesday.
It was either Tuesday or Wednesday. There was a nice
storm that came through at least by uh my area,
and I mean it was like lightning thunder. I mean
it was just like it was right on top of me,
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and uh, it was great. Well it was. It was
in the middle of the afternoon. It was like like
six seven o'clock in the afternoon. I wasn't sleeping, but
I was just like, oh, this is great, this is
so great. And then the dogs freaked out because they
did like the thunder. Sure, but yeah, I always might
have been Wednesday. I don't remember all the days kind
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of running together. It's no amazing how that happens. Yep, yep.
So that's what I'm That's pretty much what's going on
this week. Cool. But we appreciate you filling in for
Danny last weekend. I'm sure. I'm sure Danny was appreciates
it too. So he's back and he's perky and he's
ready to go. I'm glad you guys are taking vacation time.
I mean I was always bad about that. I rarely
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ever used up all my vacation well every year, so
you wanted to make sure you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
When I was married, I didn't listen a vacation. I
usually just took it around the holidays. Maybe like one
day here and there. And I keep on telling myself
every year, take a couple of days each month. Take
a couple of days each month. I mean I get
I mean the heck, I get twenty four days wow vacation.
So why not just take you know, a day here,
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you know day here and day here. And I keep
on for then next. But then October hits. I go,
oh gosh, I have two and a half weeks of
vacation still take then I have to pound it all
into the holidays. So right, yeah, two or three days
time in with a Sunday, Yeah, game, I usually say.
If I do it, I usually do a Friday Monday.
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So I get a four day, four day week. I
think gives you play time. Go out and work in
the yard, take care of the grass, get all those
weeds pulled about that, but get things planted, get the
rocks put in your little area there. That's gonna that's
definitely gonna happen. Trim to slap the hogs, beat the chickens.
But but over the last couple of years, I've actually
taken full weeks of vacation in the middle of the year.
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I'm doing it again in September. So good, going back
down to Florida. Good, gonna have fun in Florida. Good,
go to Gatorland and that week and that week, don't
text me, don't call me, don't do anything. I'm gonna
be busy. Oh I will. I'm sure you will, but
I'm talking about I'm not gonna answer. I always like
to bug you when you do that. I'm not gonna answer,
(06:21):
though you have before. Yeah, and then you yell at
me for well, you said you weren't gonna I do
it just to see if you're gonna answer me, or yeah, yeah, anyway,
the website. Oh but before we do that, yes, yesterday,
I guess, I guess. I guess. You know what's coming
up in October? Halloween eight, late September and October. Yep,
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that's one. But it's the giant Pumpkin way off. Oh,
it's that time of year. So this is the month
when it's the make or break of Judge Pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I don't ever judge. I'm just the MC. I don't
know yet. Yes, well, you scheduled to do well, you
retired from a whole bunch of other things. I know
I'm scheduled to do that see anyway, So this is
the month that really can make or break them as
far as they're getting in like forty five fifty pounds
a day. So we're gonna talk to our giant pumpkin
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growory cherry pounds a day a day. It's like me.
It's like me when I was on Port Clinton this
past week. But we're gonna see where he is right now.
He always gives us an update right now before we
get into that final part of the season, and then
he'll get back with us mid September and kind of
give us say final this is where we are. And
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he looks at the general overall picture too. But Jerry
Rose will be with us this morning. We'll talk with you,
of course, Gary Salvon and Buggy Joe Boggs and Danny
and me in between cool and the website is Ron
Wilson Online dot com Facebook page in the Garden with
Ron Wilson, and the chat room is Rocket Enrollment as usual,
and Buggy Joe has a couple of posts this week
(07:56):
if we want to check it out. Asian Longhorn beat
old Galls. He likes calls for some reason. He's a
like obsessive galls and scale Magnolia scale, Ye, big tent.
Just now people are finally starting to see it starting
to crank up, and now's the time to get ready
to jump on it to get it under control. Check
out those posts on the on the website, the Rito's
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recipe of the week. What are you going to do
with all those tomatoes? I mean this tomato season. I'm
sure a lot of people are picking on now they're
finally starting to cut. Well, she's got a recipe for
what to do with some of those tomatoes. Hm, it
looked too mazzarella gallet, gallet. I don't know how to
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pronounce it. All I know is I've got a lot
of tomatoes on it. It looks pretty good, looks pretty good.
I probably would eat that. It's kind of sloppy, that's
wild with tomato and stuff on there. But yeah, it
looks good. It looks really I made some basil on
there and everything. Yes, yep, sure, does you know? Talking
about food? You and I were commenting about frishes several
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months ago, what's happening to frishes? And you just see
it disappear on the shore of Lake Erie and Port Clinton,
Ohio is a freshest big boy. Nice, it's the freshest
big boy first one. No, it's just it is a
fresh's big boy. It's not a you know, with the
freshest tartar sauce in the whole nine yards cool. I
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actually had to pull in and go, is this for real?
And here's the big boy right on the lake erie. Nice. Wow,
I got all the way to Port Clinton have a
big boy and a buddy boy and do on that nice.
So yeah, it's kind of interesting. Huh, pretty cool, Pretty cool? Huh.
The plan of the week. Yes, the sweet autumn Clematis
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or Clematis, as a old gardener used to say, are
you the old gardener, not the old gardener? You know
what I'm talking about. We just won't we won't mention
his name, but Clematis autumn Clematis. Yes, what's going on
with that? Well, it's one of my favorites. And they're
just getting ready to starts to show those white flowers,
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very aggressive vine. And I mentioned that probably five times
in that whole description. But when they start the flower
for the two or three week period and it's vanellascent,
it's absolutely wonderful. And if you put that on a
pergola or over your garden, swing over an archway or
something like that. It's just a good, hardy green vine
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during the season. But when it comes into flower for
these two weeks or so, the pollinators love it. The
bees love it. You'll love it because of the color
and the smell, and then those all turn into a
seedhead that look like spiders, silver spiders all over. So
it's a really cool vine. But again, it's very aggressive.
So wherever you put it, give it plenty of something
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to grow on. A lot of folks just cut that
thing back almost to the ground every year and let
it regrow all the time. So one of my favorites. Though.
You'll start to see it just starting to flower. Cool. Yeah,
very cool. So is that it? It seems like you're
winding down. Yeah, I am winding down because I got
to get it out of here soon because I got
a football game to go to. Oh, we'll get out
of here then, mister football announcer, Well get ready for producer,
(11:06):
executive producer. Yeah, good for you. High school football is
kicking in, and I got high school and then what
what will we be talking about next Saturday? Next Saturday?
High school football in Ohio State. There you go, big
game and my very special Ohio State tribute on the
on the chat on the chat room on the Facebook.
(11:29):
Say anything until I can't wait to see it. Yeah,
I can't wait to see it. There you go. We'll
see what happens. What happens. But I but I'm good,
Like I told you, I think off the air last week,
I'm gonna miss it because I got a I got
a football game to do, same time, same time. Too bad,
but I'm sure somebody will keep you updated on I'm
definitely gonna keep my phone right now day. She'd be
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doing of those numbers like that commercial a long time.
Are you looking at your phone? No, you're looking at
your phone? No, I'm not remember that. I thought that
was one of the funniest commercials ever. Okay, hey, all right,
Joe Streker, our executive producer. If you like what you
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There you go, all right, thank you, Joseph. Talk to
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Speaker 1 (16:18):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again.
That total free number would be eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five talking about yard nang and yes,
as you caught there talking with Joe Strucker. I was
off this week. So if you emailed me this week,
I did not respond to you, not because I don't
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like you, not because I'm tired of responding, because I
wasn't there to respond. I did check a few yesterday
to see me and I got a ton, so I
will work hard to get caught back up again. Uh.
But you know, if I didn't, if you didn't hear
from me, that's because I was out and we took
our little trip, and you know, we we've been doing
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this my wife. I haven't traveled much over the last
several years because I work a lot and obviously and
I'm here on Saturdays and all of that. But been
doing some local things, you know, within your own state.
And it's amazing what you find within your own state
that you had no idea. And we last year did
the northeastern part of Ohio along the lake. And then
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this year we did the northwestern part of Ohio, a
lake area along the lake there west of Sandusky area,
and good friend Teresa Parker gave me all kinds of
links and things and places to go and see and
so kind of got it started, and we went up
there and just had a tremendous time. And if you
live in Ohio and you've never done that before, you
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should check it out. If you were in a surrounding
state and you're looking for some place to go and
you like it and you like the lake, if you
like doing the you know, the lake scene, it's pretty cool.
And the thing about that area is that. You know,
you were long lake of course along the shoreline, but
then they have the islands out away from the shoreline,
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put In Bay. You probably heard of that, the Bass Islands.
I think there's a south North, Middle Bass Island, Kelly's Island.
I mean, there's a bunch of them out there. You
get ride the ferry out to these islands with your
Some of them you can take your car. Some of
them you can't with your car, or you'd have a
jet Express which is one of those huge jet boats
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that seats about you know, one hundred and fifty people
and that skims across. And I'll tell you what, when
you're out in the middle of that lake erie, you know,
it's it's it's like you think you're in the ocean.
It's so big. But you know that white caps and
the whole nine yards. It was just a fun time.
And I always, of course, when I do something like that,
I always look at the plant palette that's there, and
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of course they're a you know, they have the lakefront
effect there, but basically they're still in the six zone
six that you would see, you know, in our area
in southern Ohio. Although we were starting to see a
little bit of seven, but with the lake effect around
the Cleveland area, you actually have a little bit of
a couple of pockets as own seven up there, but
basically a six. So as you look at the plant
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palette that's there, basically the same of what we see
in our own landscapes here. But what I did enjoy
while I was up there that we don't see as
much anymore in our landscapes here Austrian pine. One of
my favorites. I love the look of Austrian pine. And
the problem is in our area, even into central Ohio,
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the stress they get. They just I think they just
come with tip blight and it. You know, the tip's
always browning and dying back, and sometimes they don't die
all the way, but they just look bad all the time.
You always cleaning them out and all. So you don't
see Austrian pine solder planted much in our area central Ohio.
But you get up to northern Ohio doing a little
bit better, and so I got to see some nice
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sized Austrian pine, which I absolutely love. And the other
one in which I forget that we have lost so
many in our area thanks to the needle diseases. In course,
brought on by the stress, the drought, the heat, et cetera,
et cetera, is Colorado blue spruce. You know, most of
the nurseries in our area now, southern Ohio and the
surrounding areas have stopped growing Colorado blue spruce because we
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were losing so many due to the needle diseases again,
which were set up for the fact that the way
the weather, the stress on the plant sets it up
for more susceptibility to these needle diseases. So, uh, you know,
so we don't see as many anymore. They're still out there,
but not like what I saw up there, and they
looked really, really nice. So it's always fun to look
at the plant palette, you know, when you go to
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other places, especially if they're kind of close to what
you are, and see what's going on there. We'll talk
more about that. Got lots of tips to share. Taking
your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. It's all happening here in the garden with
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Speaker 1 (23:08):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that all free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yarding. As we are winding
down the summer, getting ready to go into the fall months.
Fall is the just an outstanding time for planting, an
outstanding time for lawn renovation, cool season, lawns. Uh you know,
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et cetera, et cetera. And think about this, you just
think about fall planting. Look how long the planting season
can go. That's all weather penning, just like gardening is period.
But he got September, he got October, You got November
for the most part, and in some cases even into
into December and to the end of December, depending on
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when Mother Nature decides to bring some cool weather and
cold weather in. So you wind up with three maybe
four months of gardening time during the fall season. And
it's a great time for planting because the plants love it.
They're shutting down, but they start developing more roots in
the fall than ever. That's why one of the reasons
why it's one of the most important times for planting
are great time for planting, especially when it comes to
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trees and shrubs. And evergreens and things like that. So
we'll talk more about that as we get into it.
But I was talking earlier about doing a little vaca
up in the northern Ohio and the Port Clinton area
and enjoying the plant palette, and pretty much the same
as what we have here. But what's interesting there is
as we got out driving around up out into the
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some of the islands and looking around, you know, it's
humid air because of the lake obviously, so you've always
got a lot of moisture in that air with the
air blowing and all. And plants look pretty darn good.
So I think they've had decent moisture rainfall. Plants look
pretty good, lawns look pretty good. But as you drove around,
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there was one particular tree, and they had some huge
trees there, one particular tree was brown as could be
and they stood out like a sore thumb, and they're
scattered all along the shoreline and up on the islands.
And that's the buckeye. Different types of buckeye, yellow buckeye.
A lot of them looked like yellow buck eyes as
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big as they were, but just brown as can be.
And it's one of one of Joe Boggs, I think
one of his favorite leaf diseases, although it's on the buckeyes,
but it's Gignardia leaf blotch, and it just turns them
a chocolate brown and they stand out like a sore
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thumb right now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And it looks like they're going into the fall color.
And I had mentioned that to my wife. I said,
you notice all these trees here and there that are
all turning brown. She said, I thought it was like
either their natural color or getting ready to go in
the fall color. And that's what that is. And so
the good thing about that is it doesn't kill the tree.
They go through this every year, they drop the leaves early.
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They were dropping right now, so they'll drop all of
those leaves and then they'll kick out a whole new
set next year and have at it through the entire
summer season. And that kicks in and turns them all
brown again, but loaded with buckeyes, and they look good.
The trees looked great. They were big, and a lot
of them, but just cinnamon brown from the leaf blotch,
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not scorch, but from leaf blotch, an actual leaf disease.
So that was kind of interesting to see as well,
and you know, otherwise, looking around, it was pretty neat
and I enjoyed it and it was a fun time
and if you've never done it before, you need to
check it out. And that's all of the Port Clinton
Port Clinton area. We stayed out on Marblehead, which is
the tip of that peninsula there, which is really cool.
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You look across the bay and you see Cedar Point,
which was kind of cool at nighttime when it was
all lit up. It was a lot of fun. So
put that on your bucket list. If you've never been there,
be sure and check it out. By the way, while
we were there, and when you're around lakes like that, mayflies.
You know, that's a natural thing. You get mayflies, and
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you know, there's times that they're more than times there's less,
and et cetera. And a couple times while we were
driving we actually hit a few pockets of mayflies. And
the last morning that we were there, we were back
into Port Clinton picking something up that we wanted to
get from one of the stores there, and I was
looking at a wall of a building and there were
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barn swallows and you know what I'm talking about. With
the barn swallows, there were barn swallows that were like
flying up against the wall with their wings out flapping
and and and actually resting up against the wall while
they were flying, and they were kind of moving along
the wall. There was like twenty or thirty of them,
and so I had to get out and find out
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what the heck they were doing. Well, there were mayflies
all over this wall where they had the whole batch
had come here. The just landed on this wall and
they were picking them off, just like rows of them,
and they were it was the coolest thing ever. Just
flew got up against the wall and just flew sideways,
eating as many mayflies as they could, and they'd fly
around a little bit, come back and do it again.
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Kind of interesting. That's the kind of things I do
when I'm taking a little breaking on vacation. But it
was it was interesting to see that and enjoy it.
But anyway, I had a good time and I enjoyed it.
And if you've never done it, put that one on
your bucket list to go up and then check it out.
And you've always got to lead them to the left
and you got Cleveland to the right and other things
to do in between. So lots of things to do
up there, so and the boat rides and the ferry
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rides and all that were a lot of fun. The
islands are great to visit. Get a golf cart and
drive around all day and it was fun and enjoyed it.
H So, good deal. All right, before we take Aburak,
what do you say we go to date and talk
to our good friend Dick. Dick, good morning, Hey, good morning, Bron.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
All of that was Hey, good to talk to you. Boy.
That's talking about my you know, my family was some
up and that their northern Ohio.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well guess we're I guess we wound up going Olmsted
Falls over by where your family's from.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah, Carla, Carla the.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Garden, yep, that's right. Yeah, you like that area up there. Yeah,
we've got some good friends in Old Steed Falls. That's
a really nice town, I mean, really nice area. Oh
so so yeah, good area.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Now were you raised? Were you raised there up in
that area?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah? Uh, okay, my dad was. Uh it was a
little town near Ashland and Oberland, Wellington, Ohio. Okay, that's
near uh you go fifty eight uh toward Madina, right,
it's and you go, uh if you go straight fifty eight.
You have to turn because they've come Route two and
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it goes to Lorraine where I used to see, uh,
you know, the freighters come in and they and you're
speaking of up in that area. I have some friends
up there, uh down and her crew always sent me
some Aridy County Visitors Bureau about the Lake Erie Islands
and I used to go with my aunt and uncle.
We used to go up there, you know, put In Bay.
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It's beautiful up.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
There, you know, it sure is now. Of course they've
got the golf carts and you drive around and see
all the homes. It's so it's a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed it so good time. Yeah, I got
a question for you. You know, you're you're such a
musician and you play the ukulele and the banjo and
whatever you can get your hands on. Have you ever
played and I they's got several names, but a jaw harp,
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you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I do, okay,
all right, yeah, because I've got one and my grandfather
taught me and I just found it the other day.
I put it away and I just found in my
grandad Well, I used to play it all the time.
My grandfather taught me how to play when I was
a kid, and he bought that for me, and I
still have it. And you know, if you're not if
you don't, if you aren't careful, you can chip a tooth.
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But yeah, I still still remember how to play it.
And I thought, I wonder if Dick's ever played one
of these.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, but it's so good to hear you guys. You know,
I'm keep an act. They playing music down here, good whatever,
and yeah, trade and I played outside and it just
it's just you know, Heather every day. Come on, Dick,
So I've been playing for the people up here.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Buddy good excellent. Well tell her, tell her you want
to set up some container gardens outside, and then you
can't go play music while everybody's working on their container gardens.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, that's what she.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Was talking about. You read her mind.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
There you go, you entertain them while they while they
gardening their containers. Yeah, we'll have a good week, all right, Dick,
good talking? Will you take care?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Take care?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
By quick break we come back. Phone lines threw over
a few by the way. Coming up at the bottom
of our next hour, Our giant pumpkin grower Jerry Rose
is going to join us. We're going to find out
where his giant pumpkins are at this stage, because the
way offs all start in October, usually late September and
then then into October. So we'll see where he is
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right now. But this month, and you'll be amazed, is
like the key month, one of the key months, because
they're expanding so quickly right now, it's crazy. So we'll
find out how well his are expanding and what he's
seeing around the country. As far as giant pumpkins. By
the way, that I think the record that the world record,
they're still trying to break his two thousand, seven hundred
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and forty nine pounds a twenty seven hundred pound pumpkin.
That's a lot of pumpkins. Eight hundred eight two three
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Talking Yardening eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Summers starting to wind down. Kids back to school colleges.
Kids are moving in back to school. I mean the
college football starts kicks off next week. The pros started
here in a few weeks. Fall season is here. As
a matter of fact, the meteorological fall starts the first
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of September, September, October, November, and the meteorological winter starts
the first of December, so you know, technically we're about
a week away from the start of the fall season,
and of course fall being such an excellent time to
get out and do planting and lawn renovation for cool
season lawns. And I bring this up because if you,
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by chance, are looking at your lawn right now and
you say, you know what, our lawn is fifty percent weeds,
fifty percent grass or more in weeds, it's probably time
to do a total lawn renovation. And the best time
to do a total lawn renovation is not in the
winter and not in the spring, but in the fall. Now.
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It can be done in the spring, but you deal
with a lot more weeds and other issues, and timing
can be late depending on the weather, et cetera, et cetera.
And then if you get into a hot summer and
this is a new lawn, it could be a tough situation.
But cool season grass is in the fall, starting in September,
seating in September, get up, grow, root in and you
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will just be totally amazed what they will look like
by the time you get into December, so they continue
to grow. As long as those sal temperatures are staying,
you know, fifty forty up or forties fifty degrees plus,
they continue to root in and continue to grow. So
by seating in the actually right now through the month
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of September, maybe early October, but sooner, the better to
get it up and growing. You know, is it's the
best time. So you look out there and maybe maybe
you have a lawn that needs total renovation, or maybe
you have a lawn that you know has large patches
of crab grass or other things that have moved in
that you just need to kill out totally and start
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all over again. In many cases that's the best way
to do it. There are some broad leaf weed killers
out there that you can spot treat and come back
two weeks later and put seed down fertiloms I yield
furlan weed freeze zone. We'll do that. Bonney's weed Beater
Ultra is that way. You can actually reced after a
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couple of weeks with spot treating. But you know, if
that's the case, what you might want to do, if
that's just a spat dread here in there is just
wait on that, do your seating, slice seating, overseating or whatever,
and then spot treat those weeds in October. By then
the new grass seat is up and growing. You've probably
moted it two or three times mid to late October,
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and that's one of the best times for going after
weeds in the lawn with a weed killer. As a
matter of fact, creeping Charlie tough one. As somebody emailed
me this week and said, hey, you know, I did
what you suggested about creeping Charlie still got I'm still
dealing with it. And the thing with creeping Charlie sometimes
called ground ivy a lawn ivy, it's a tough one.
(37:56):
You know, he's got rhizomes. He can come back from sea,
can be very aggressive. Only moves in where the lawn
is thinned or is bear so it only moves in
where the lawns thinned out. So if you get the
lawn taking back up again, Charlie can't compete with the lawn.
But getting rid of it can be kind of tough.
The best time to go after creeping Charlie with just
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a broad leave we killer is actually a mint of
late October and you spray him once or twice at
that time of the year does a pretty good knockback
and you don't see much of Charlie when we start
getting into the spring season where it starts to green
back up again. So do keep that in mind. But
my point being is if you need to kill out
areas full of crabgrass or whatever, you want to, just
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go in and kill it all out, start all over again.
Now's the time to spray with your non selective vegetation
killers to get that stuff dead. So you're ready to
go once we get to September. As far as seating
and the products you would use for that, they're obviously organic,
all natural products made out of fatty acids of soap
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and some other products as well that will burn vinegars,
one of them that will burn the foliage off usually
doesn't do much of a job on the root system,
but we'll burn the topsaw for you. You can come
in and do it. And remember crabgrass is an annual.
Once it's dead, it's dead. What it comes back from
is from seed in the springtime. So but once you
kill it, it's done all right. That particular plant is dead,
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so you can use those, but it just again for
perennial weeds. It only kills the tops off and not
the roots. So I still I still use glyphosate. You know,
it used to be round up or Fertilom's kills all
round Up has changed. I bring this up for every
show because I want to remind everybody that it's a
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different formula than what it used to be. It's now
three different types of vegetation killers. The limitations on when
you can come back and reseed, replant, et cetera, et
cetera are different than the original round up label with glyphasa,
so make sure you read the label see what the
limitations are. It is no longer that one is no
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longer recommended to be used around vegetable gardens, which you
could spot treat glyphosate in vegetable gardens. So if you
want to stick with the glyphosate, you want to continue
to use that. Fertile ome Kills all still has the glyphosate,
all right, So you can go go to your local
independent garden center because that's the only place you'll find
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fertile own products. Get that and then of course you
know it takes a while to kill everything out, so
you want to get it on as soon as possible.
You want to try to give it a week or
so to start to brown things out. Make sure you've
killed it out so that by that time we're now
into September, perfect time to come in. You can mow
it down low, just leave that stuff there and slice
or slit seed right through it. Put your seed into
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the soil and you're good. For the starter fertilizer, you're
good to go. Core air rating, same way, and you
can do that before you do your slice seeding. All right,
core air rate, maybe rake in a little compost filling,
then come back and do your seating, start a fertilizer,
get the moisture to it, and you're good to go.
So you know, keep that in mind because that's coming up,
and if you have to kill things out, now's the
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time to jump on it. Speaking of grass, seat questions,
Dave and Glendale, Good morning, Hey, how you doing good?
Sern yourself?
Speaker 6 (41:19):
Great, good topic, Good my lawn. My lawn is exactly
what you're talking about, probably one hundred grass.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
And this has got to be the best year for crabgrass.
I think I've ever seen a.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Right I'm telling you what I want to do an
experiment this year, I'm gonna try. I want to get
some grass seed, and I want to know, and I
want to put a nice I want my lawn to
look nice. So what kind of there's different varieties of grass,
seat right, right?
Speaker 5 (41:50):
What would you like?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
What would you put up?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
If it were my lawn and I was going to
start all over again, I would use the turf type
tall fescue.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
I'm I'm going to write this down.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, turf type tall fescue, okay, And there are many
You'll find many blends out there of turf type tall fescues.
You'll find single like a fine lawn. You'll find that
bite sole by itself, or you'll find two or three
mixed together in a blend. And I like the blends
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where they have two or three or four. I used
to be one out there that was had five different
ones in there. But I like the blend of turf
type tall fascues. Now occasionally you'll also see they'll throw in, uh,
I don't know, five or ten percent a little bit
of bluegrass or perennial ridges for the printery ride for
a quick start. The bluegrass as a rhizomer, but I
I don't look for that I just want the turf
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type tall fescue, and that stuff takes sun or shade.
It's deep rooted, very drought tolerant. When that goes dormant,
you know, it's really drought and dry out there. And
leaf disease brown patch. We do see that occasionally, but
it doesn't kill it out. It comes right back again.
So overall, to me, the turf type tall fascues would
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be the best choice of seed that you can use
and get a blend, not just a single stand a board.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, I'm up against the break, I think, well, yeah,
and let me know David, how it turns out for you.
All right, all right, good talking with you. How do
you know we were up against the break? You must
listen to our show. There you go or Dan gave
him a signal I love it anyway. He just knew
there are different types of grass seed out there, there's
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no doubt about it. And is there one best grass seed?
Not necessarily, you know, it depends on the environment, what
you're trying to do, et cetera, et cetera. But for me,
in the Midwest and even into the to the south
east and some of the southern there's a transition period
where you finally get into warm season grasses. Turf type
tall fescues, to me is the icing on the cake.
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I think they do the best, lower maintenance than the bluegrass.
The crinal rise in that. So that's the one I
look for. Turf type tall fescues eight hundred eight two
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Ron Wilson, Green tom or not.
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