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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarding on this Labor Day weekend, and of course it's
kick it off with mister Joe Strecker, who won't be
laboring this weekend. I can guarantee you he is our
executive producer. He takes care of our website, a Ron
Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the garden with
Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir, and I guaranteed everybody, you

(00:56):
have nothing planned for this weekend, nothing at all, ze
rows zero labor wise, labor wise, lots of college football.
I am working. What I am working? This isn't laborious,
Well I am, but I'm I am working. I don't
get labor d This doesn't work. This is fun, This

(01:17):
is fun. But after this, I gotta I gotta work. Hmm.
I'm sorry, So, yes, I have I have labor after
this I'm thinking of you know, I was not kidding about.
It doesn't matter because later on this afternoon is going
to be a big game. Yes, yes, it is a
big game. What do you think? What do I think?

(01:39):
I think it's gonna be a close game. Do you
think it's gonna be a close game. I think it's
gonna be in the Defensi's hands think so. I think
what's gonna happen is it's gonna take the buck Eyes
a couple of series to figure out because they got
a new quarterback, large line, you know, all that kind

(02:00):
of stuff, and then they'll probably kick it in the
high gear sometime maybe mid second quarter hopefully. But I
do think it's it would be a close game. Yeah,
That's that's the thing that's going to happen. Is Ohio
State is still a two point favorite. Yeah, yeah, which
was pretty much a push when it comes to college football,
right because you get it's you get a three point
But is that an unusual thing for the number one

(02:23):
team playing the number two team going in the underdog,
number two, number three team going into the opening game. Yeah,
it's very as an underdog, very unusual. Plus it's the
top it's the first time they've had that happened too, right, Yeah,
it's been a long time since that's happened. So yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be good. I think a few guys are
going to be on that game, maybe one or two. Yeah,

(02:43):
we're doing a lot of flipping back. I don't know.
You to Megan's house to get TVs everywhere. You go
to Carly's house to get TVs everywhere, so you can
walk in every room watch a different you know, a
different game, so you can, you know, just keep trying. Unfortunately,
I'm gonna be working, so I'm gonna be looking at
it on my phone. Okay, I'll keep you posted. Oh
well I got my phone, but yes, thank you se

(03:04):
me texts. Yes, I forgot. I forgot about you doing that.
Now I remember what you're doing. Yeah, I'm working. Yeah,
so it's going to be a big goal. You're doing
a little football going to be a big day. Yes,
it is going going to football season. That's my football season, absolutely.
So yeah, we're about to hit the burre months. So

(03:25):
no more barefoot outside, that's right? And uh yeah, can
you believe it's already summer Thursday? Is it Tuesday? Mondayay?
You won't be able yeah, Labor day. You won't be
able to walk out outside anymore, or your mom would
be all over you believe that it's already? I can't.
I can't we open the outlet this weekend. Everybody's back

(03:48):
to cooler weather man. Everybody's fired up. Last year, if
you remember, it was ninety some degrees I think it
was ninety seven degrees or something on this weekend it
was horrible. And this is absolutely gorgeous weekend and next
week too, I think. Yeah. Uh so, you know a
lot of folks, boy, they're fired up to get out there,
start to start working in the landscape and get getting
things cleaned up and ready to go for the fall.

(04:09):
Ready for uh so, get ready for fun. I love
a cool downtime. I know you, I know you don't.
I know you like the hot weather, but I do
like fall. It's I like them all, but I like fall.
So yeah, but I just can't believe the years almost over.
And then then we're gonna be sitting here saying, can
you believe the college football season is over? Because I

(04:31):
mean that his roles. I mean, next thing you know,
we're the playoffs, and next thing you know, we're talking
about hoops and yeah, so wow, so yeah, holiday season,
bowl games, goodness, Oh well, national championship game. That's life.
We'll see a long way to go. Yes, lots of
things can happen. So who do you have on the

(04:53):
show today? Today, we have guests. Uh. We have Anthony
need Uh. He's from Flawns. He's been on our show
many times. If you're interested in maybe creating a flowering
lawn or part of your lawn actually being a flowering lawn. Uh,
he's the expert. That's why it's companies called Flawns Flowering Lawns.
Then we're gonna follow up with our native expert, build

(05:15):
a Bore from Indiana. He's a he's a boiler maker,
by the way, I'm sorry about. He's a good man.
So yeah, so I don't think forget who they kick off.
I got to tease him a little bit who they
kick off with today. But yeah, so he's gonna we're
gona talk about native plants and native arts and things
like that. So those are two big guest course, Buggy

(05:36):
Joe Boggs will be with us, Gary Salvin will be
with us. You're here, Danny and me in between and
taking lots of calls. They played the Powerhouse from Ball State. Yeah,
Ball State, that's right, So they're probably forty five point
David Leerman, Well, Pall State's also in Indiana. Yes, a

(05:58):
little in state rivalry there. We'll see what happens like
when the Bucks play the Zips for the Bobcats or
the Flashes. How about you see how about that they
had that game? Well, how about I could have pulled that.
I could have gotten knocked off Nebraska. I like how
they have a home game in Kansas City. What the

(06:20):
heck was up with that? I don't know. I didn't
get that. That was supposed to be a home game
for him, was it. Yeah, that was their first home
game and we played in Kansas City, which is you know,
you know, one stayed away from Nebraska. Yeah, I don't
I didn't get that. Yeah, that was a home game,
but they were there, they had them. I thought it's
typical Kansas City. They're going to screw over Cincinnati, that's

(06:44):
for sure, exactly whatever they can do anytime they can.
That touchdown was non touchdown. That guy was bobbling it
the interception, No the touchdown. Yeah, yeah, that was no
way a touchdown. We need we need replay. When you replay,
that's the game. Yeah, but I thought they had it.

(07:04):
I thought they had it. Yeah. So the website is
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(07:47):
there you go. Uh. And on the website, there's a
there's a couple of things going on. Let's see, bagworm
season's over. Yep, well it's not over. Now it's time
to start picking. It's time to smashing grinnin. That's on
the smash them. Tobacco hornworms they attacking your tomatoes. Yeah,
why is it tobacco hornworms attacking more than tomato horn oroms?

(08:09):
I don't know. If you pick, if you find all
those are typically more tobacco hornworms on tomatoes than tomato
hornworms on tomatoes. Well maybe that's what the tip sheets
there for I Buggy Joe explain to learn more about that.
The recipe of the week from Rita. Yes, Rita likes pie. Yes,
in this case, coconut cream is one of my favorites,

(08:30):
one of my absolute favorite pies. Oh, I love coconut.
I'm not a big coconut guy. Who I am? Yeah,
you don't get fired up when you smell coconut suntanlis. Okay, well,
let me let me take let me walk back a
little bit. Okay, Coconut cream pie. I'm not a big
fan of peanut colados. I love, okay, especially after the

(08:52):
second one. Yeah, and the third and the third and fourth,
they get dis like them more and more all the time. Right,
And yes, if you smell coconut on tan oil, that's
usually fun too. That's usually pretty fun too. But I
love that. I'm not a big cocon on cream I am.
But how about if chocolate cream pie? I love chocolate
cream pie, but just not the coconut. I just don't

(09:15):
like lemon meringue is good? Are you a meringue a person?
Or do you? Was you rather whipped cream on top
of that? I could be either, okay, as long as
whipped cream, well, whip cream on top of pie is
always good. Yeah, but what about meringue. I mean it's
a different flavor, neither here nor there. Okay, like I
both all right, as long as it's on pie. Okay,

(09:39):
you mean you don't need whip cream would just yeah okay, okay,
so it doesn't have to be on pie on pie,
I could do that, yeah, right right from the can.
And now that they make whipped cream, that's confused with alcohol.
I mean that's just it's a given. I wonder if
video that ever makes it on the dessert probably not
just pas that can around the table. Probably not. I

(10:02):
I can't tell it, but maybe off the air. I'll
tell you the funny whip cream story. No no, no, no, no, no,
tell me whipped cream and other delights. Do you remember
that album? No, you weren't even born back I was.
I was way in the Tijuana Brass was way before.
You sold more of those albums just because of the
album cover. Oh yeah, I know, i've cover before. I

(10:25):
have seen she's like eighty five years old. Now they
found her and she's still didn't she redo the album cover?
I think she did or some eighty five yeah something. Yeah,
that was more whipped cream than you sold more of
those albums because of the uh, the plan of the
week since it's football season. The Buckeye Tree. Oh yeah,
well all kinds of buck guys kind of you know,

(10:45):
commemorate the kick off of the football season, and so, uh,
you know, if you're looking to put buck guys, there's
so many different types that are available for you. You will
find one that will fit in your landscape somewhere. So
that's going to help you out to take a look
at that. I got the Buckeye tree. Yes, all right,
I gotta get to work. That's it, yep. I gotta
get on the road and get to work, have fun
and then enjoy the rest of your labor day weekend. Well,

(11:07):
all right. Joe Strecker, Executive producer. If you like what
you see on our website, Ron Wilson Online dot com,
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had everything to do with it. Something on there you
don't like, you don't you're not sure about your question,
my fault. Don't blame Joe. We're gonna blame doctor z
Washington d C eighty three riding around on that. And finally,
Bowser's in the sidecar with the sweetheart on the back.

(11:30):
Sweetheart on the back. But doctor Z's not. Doctor Z's
kind of a sad face today because you see lost. Yeah,
he was, yeah, but they look good. But he you
know what, he was very encouraged because he said, had
you told me back in the nineties that you see
was gonna be where they are today, playing somebody like
Nebraska and almost knocking them off, he said, I would

(11:53):
have never guessed that. He said, what a great thing
to see their program come along so well. So see
very positive. Okay, we'll go with that, Doctor Z, Doctor
Z Washington, d C. Mister positive. Thank you. Eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. That's our number
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
Talking to your argument at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy, and what a spectacular lead in
to the beginning of the fall season. This week has
been absolutely beautiful, gorgeous and with the exception that we
haven't had any rain and yep, here we go again

(15:20):
talking about it's dry and it is dry out there.
We do need some rainfall, but it's not like it
was this time last year where was ninety seven degrees literally,
I mean it was, Oh, it was horrible, and we
had been so dry you'd had to have a jackhammer
to get to plant anything in the ground. But it
was a you know, looking at the garden centers this week,

(15:41):
really starting to ramp up. Folks are getting out, they're
getting ready. They're planting trees and shrubs, replacing boxwood. And
we'll talk more about that a little bit later in
the show, but very encouraging. What a great start and
great lead into the fall season, having such a such
wonderful weather, and it's gonna last, it looks like right
through next week as well, so I will take it.

(16:02):
I think the Old Farmer's Almanac has said a cooler
but dry or dry fall for our area. I hope
they're right on the cooler part, not on the dry part.
But so far they have been looking pretty good, so
we'll take it. And again it's it's amazing what the
weather will do. And you know, folks are fired up
about getting out there and getting things replaced, getting things

(16:24):
taken care of, adding to and you know it won't
be long we'll be putting those some mums and pansies
and cabbage and kale, and those containers and spruce and
up getting ready for the fall season as well. To
Cincinnati we go. Jim, good morning.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I have a question about Amarillis plants.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, I have three.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Large pots that I've had for years. I bring them
in the basement in the fall before the frost and
let them go dry and dark. Bring them up in
the winter and they blow them beautifully in their family room. Good,
and then I heal com in outdoors through the summer.
I went out to water them the other night and

(17:06):
something I presume a deer has eating every leaf off
down to the bulbs. And I wonder what I should
do with them.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Should I bring them in and let them go dormant
or leave them outdoors till later?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, I think what I would do. You know, if
if folks want those to flour for the holiday season,
the goal is right about mid to late August, is
to stop watering and let that foliage turn yellow, to
cut that off and bring them in by the first
of September, and you know, storm away like you do
in the basement for six to eight weeks, bring him
back out and have him fire up for the holidays,

(17:41):
so you know, that just kind of has forced you
to do that, but it should be okay. I mean
that's you know, they just basically took the foliage off
for you. So I would clean that up obviously if
it's chewed off ends or whatever, but I would take
advantage of that. And now you're going to have holiday
color and a little bit afterwards, rather than in the
winter time when you've normally gotten it and then you
just start it all over again and get back into

(18:02):
your normal pace. I have noticed that, Jim, with it
being dry right now, and it has been dry, you
know for the last couple of weeks or so depending
on where you live. Uh, they've gotten into our smaller
pumpkins and a lot of other things, just basically going
for the moisture, so you know it. Squirrels have done that,
groundhogs have done that. Deer obviously, and rabbits are into

(18:23):
that as well. Amarilla's kind of surprises me. I don't know.
I thought Amarilla's had a little bit of a toxicity
in the leaves, but obviously not that much if they do.
But you know, that's that's what that's what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
The bulbs, no normally, I just sleep.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You do the exact same procedure, Jim, that you do
normally do when you finally shut them down, you know,
at the end of the fall season, and store them
away for winter color. Do exactly that. I would get
that started this weekend, and like I say, clean up.
If there's rough edges on those folies, go ahead and
cut that off just above the ball, you know, an
inch or so, cut that off, take them inside, clean

(19:05):
up the pots, storm away in the basement, just like
you've always done. And you know, I don't know how
long you keep them down there, but usually it's a
minimum of about six weeks, and in the dormancy period,
then you can bring it back out after that six
to eight weeks uh and fire them back up again.
But it's just all they've done is just create a
situation where you're gonna give earlier color versus the winter color,

(19:27):
and then you're gonna have to scarf up a few
uh around the holidays that you can pot up at
that point to give yourself some color for the winter
as well. But otherwise I think you should be in
good shape and do me a favorite, Jim, do keep
me posted on how they turn out because I think
you just they just change the schedule for you.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Okay, have one other quick question. Talking around the neighborhood,
I see some pushes in the yards that are about
the size of the lilac and they're blooming. Now.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yes, I will tell you that after break. Keep listening,
appreciate the call. Eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. That's our number here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (22:03):
Talking yardening at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five on this Labor Day weekend, and uh
hopefully you're out there doing a few things in the
yard and garden to day college football kicks off. Of
course we're excited here uh with all the college games
and of course uh Ohio State uh taking on Texas
and big games today, lots of them all around the country.
So it should be a good game for that. So

(22:23):
everybody should be out early this morning getting your yard
and garden things taken care of so you can have
time to sit down and enjoy some of these games
this afternoon. And a great weekend to get out of
the garden like I was saying before the break, just
gamy goosebump, seeing all the folks coming in the garden centers,
uh for the you know, for the weekend, the buying.

(22:44):
I saw a lot of trees going out already, and
evergreens and replacing boxwood. And again we'll talk about that
in just a little while, but you know, planning new
new perennials and uh, oh my gosh, milkweed going out
like crazy. Uh. And monarchs, you know you and now
you start to see them as they start to move
back through and so everybody scrambling to get those monarch
butter for milkweeds out there and get those planet But

(23:08):
it's uh, it's great because this time last year it
had been ninety every day dryer and I started to
say a popcorn, but I can't say that, thank you
very much. Uh. And it just you know, it's such
a difference, and you can just tell everybody's excited and
ready to go. By the way before the break, talking
about what is that thing that looks like a lilac
that's flowering right now in a shrub And a couple

(23:31):
of things. One is, you know, if you look out
there right now, magnolias, believe it or not, a lot
of them will flower a second time this time of
the year, and there's a lot of plants. Crab apples
do the same thing. I see a lot of crab
apples in our area right now that are in partial
bloom and enough flowers that you can tell the what
color of the crab apple is you are kind of

(23:51):
it's a remondent, I think is the name of what's called.
When they rebloom like that again, kind of get confused
with the weather, were posing, that's what it is, and
just flower again. Lilacs will do the same thing. Some
of the rotos PJM was always ramapot were always bad
about that they would flower again in the fall, and
of course when they do that, you lose those flower buds.

(24:13):
Not as many on the rotos, so you hate losing them.
Crab apples different story. You got some many buds on there,
doesn't make a difference in the springtime, so that's possibility.
Create myrtles and shrub form right now looking really good,
and the flowers and the colors in our area are
absolutely spectacular, flowering on the new wood and just really
putting on a great show. I draanges to put on

(24:33):
a great show as well. But if it truly is
a lilac, there is a lilac series out there which
blooms twice. It's kind of ever bloomer, but it basically
is kind of a two to two times shot. They're
called bloomerangs, and there's a series of those. I think
there's a pink, maybe white, I'm not sure, but I

(24:53):
know that the lilac for sure, lilac color and bloomerang.
Lilac will flower in the spring time. There's a little
bit smaller flower, but lots of them, a good fragrance
to it, lots of them, and then there's about an
eight week delay as soon as they're done flowering, about
an eight week delay, which means June, July and into August,

(25:15):
and they'll regrow and do their thing, and then they'll
flower a second time going into the fall season. So
it's not really a you know, I think a lot
of folks they talk about this reblooming lilac. There is
a period of time where you don't see anything on
there as it regrows, and then again, like I say,
going into the late summer and fall, they flower second time.

(25:37):
Not even close to what they look like in the springtime.
But it's a nice show in the late summer and
early fall. But it's called bloomerang, bloomerang, and it is
a lilac and should be putting on the show or
starting their show right now, So more than likely that's
what that is. If it is, it looks pretty pretty

(25:57):
much like a lilac. But there are lots of other
plants too, And I'll tell you what. Hydrangas have just
done a spectacular job again for us this year. And
we even saw, yes, the macro filas, the pinks and
the blues actually showing a little bit of color this
year instead of just the green hydrangea bush that you
typically get because they die back over the winter. Actually

(26:20):
saw some of the quite a few dozen flower but
the tree hydrangeas, the piniculatas, the oak, the are breath,
they all have just put on a spectacular show and
still many of them still going. And as you get
into like vanilla strawberry and things, strawberry shortcare, I don't know,
vanilla strawberry is what it is. Yeah, some of the

(26:41):
other ones a pinky winkie. As the temperature's cool, then
you get that bicolor. You get the pink and the
white on that, and some of them fade into a pink,
someonem fade into a beige. But again, tremendous show. And
if you have a tree Hydrangia hydraja in a reform
and it's small, you know it's it's it's one of

(27:04):
those things that they're very i would say perishable, you know,
early on in their stages because they need to remain
staked for quite some time until that trunk diameter gets
some size to it to be able to support the top.
And of course then you how do you prune in
the top to keep it full? But yet lots of flowers.

(27:26):
I have a tip sheet because this has been going
on for a long time and people they fall over
and they snap and all of that. So this spring
I put together tip sheet on proper care for tree
hydrangeas and it also includes a link to I think
one of the one of the best videos as far
as showing you how to prune these uh And if

(27:47):
you've got that tree hydrangia, email me and you if
you're looking for the tip sheet, and I will send
you back that that tip sheet, which also has all
the other things about hydrangees as well as far as
pruning and things like that. But it's a it's a
little different. But boy, they have just put on a
show for us this year, no doubt about it. Spectacular.

(28:07):
But you know, again, if you like that tip sheet,
let me know. But more than likely, like I say,
that was a bloomerang lilac, it's a rebloomer. But as
reblooming it means that it will flower in the springtime
and then come back and fire for you late summer
and early fall. Not as much as it did in
the spring, but it does flower and it's a pretty
good show for you as well. To Delaware, we go, Katie,

(28:29):
good morning. Oh okay, sorry, so I saw that there.
You'll mean to wait? All right, we'll do that. We'll
just we'll hang on as a matter of fact, before
we go to the break. I'll tell you what, Katie,
you stick with me. Let's go to Dick from Dayton. Dick,
good morning, good morning, how are you sir?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (28:50):
Is it the weather beautiful?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's wonderful. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
It's gorgeous. Yeah, it's been so nice, it's been so
nice and uh yeah, and today I think we look
forward to this the buck Eyes and Texas.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I'm excited. I don't all about you, but I'm excited.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Oh yeah, I've lived through that team for years when
I was in colleague, when I worked at Low's, back
to the Cooper and all that area. But Boyle, Boyle,
boy it's just been so nice. And Ford took me
in to stringing vendors. In fact, we played the first
half hour outside. We had a pretty good crowd, you know.

(29:34):
We were just playing there in front of the people
would come up to the uh, the senior citizens, and
we were doing the triple to Merle Haggard and Buck Owens,
George Jones. Oh, nobody can do songs like Greg and
Bob and I was doing some oh, I was doing
some Kingston Trio songs.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh yeah, yeah. So have you talked your community into
doing some container gardens so you all can do this
a little bit of gardening.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Okay, Yeah, I was telling Heather, Yeah, she's gonna try to. Yeah,
she's a big listener. H the activities we're talking. Then
we get outside there and you can see all the
flowers you all there, and it's just beautiful, good beautiful,
you know, beautiful living there.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Good. I'm glad you're enjoying it. Hey, we got to go.
Have a great Labor Day weekend, and I'm sure we'll
talk to you in the future.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
All right, see you, Dick. All right, Dick from Dayton.
Now we'll take a quick break. We come back. Katie
from Delaware. You're coming up next. Phone lines are open
for you at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five on this Labor Day weekend. Here in
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Speaker 1 (32:25):
Talking to Yarding at eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five. Don't forget our websites. Ron Wilson
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Rida's recipe one of my favorite pies, Coconut cream pie.
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you there and all kinds of great postings from a
buggy Joe. Planning of the Week this week UH in

(32:45):
honor of the Ohio State the Ohio State Buckeyes kicking
off their football season. UH and it's all buckeyes, and
all kinds of different buckeyes that you can plant in
your yard. They are there are many to choose from,
as a matter of fact, one that you might going
to take a look at if your local nursery may
have it. I'm really impressed with this when it's actually
a hybrid. It's called autumn splendor. It's a hybrid between

(33:09):
the Ohio buckeye, yellow buckeye, and red buck eye. Now
it's a creamy yellow flower after they in the springtime,
after they start to leave out, and hummingbirds love it.
Oriels love them, deep green leaves, they don't get the
leaf scorch like other horse chest nuts. And the buckeye
species nice attractive shades of red in the fall. All right,

(33:32):
And that still has the buckeye the nuts there. I
guess you could say they're a buckeye. It's a hybrid,
but yeah, they're buckeye. The nuts there obviously, And it's
really not bothered by much as far as insect or disease.
But it's called asculus autumn splendor, and be sure and
check that. But on of course, bottlebrush buck guy, if
you're looking for a large shrub in a shady area

(33:55):
in your yard. And that thing is absolutely gorgeous. But
you can find out at our website runs at online
dot com. Now to Delaware, we go, Katie. Good morning, Hi.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
Good morning, Ron, thanks for taking my call pleasure. So,
I just recently got a brand new sectic system and
it's it's called a mound yep, which means I've got
this giant mountain in my backyard yep, and it's so
steep I won't be able to get on it with
my tractor. So to avoid weed whacking this whole big thing,

(34:32):
I was wondering if there is a short grass that
won't grow very tall, or if there's a groundcover that
would flower like all summer long, or something I can
put on it so I don't have.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
To know it. You know, I'd have to look to
see what restrictions because I know you are limited as
far as what you can actually plant on those mounds,
because we don't want to mess up the system, the
septic system. But you know, you look at those. The
first choice, if a contractor would come in, would probably
probably be a turf type tall fescue. And let me
tell you why they would do this. And they could

(35:04):
do a mix of the tall fescue and some of
the finer fescues because in the no mos or the
low mow lawns, that's what they use. So if you
looked at those and those particular blends or mixes, uh,
and it's like I said, it's usually two or three
types of fescues. It's you know, it's you could get
by without mowing it, but it's nice to mow it

(35:26):
maybe once a year twice a year, just to kind
of keep it into check. But but those low mow
or no mow grass blends or mixes would be an
excellent choice for that, well, I mean for the turf,
and that way you could let them grow, let it
kind of fall over, and then come back and maybe
you know, like I say, once a year, twice a year,

(35:47):
do that and that would be all you have to do,
if you would, if you wanted to invest the money.
And here's what the problem is, you start looking at
something like that. If you invested the money in something
like sedges or things like that, or even low growing
ornamental grasses, you know that can be very expensive to
try to plant that whole thing. So the actual lomo

(36:09):
or no moo grass would be your best or are
you just using straight turf type tall rescue if you
wanted to go that route, that's cost wise, would probably
be your best shot for flowering. Okay, let me let
me tell you something coming up in our next hour.
At the top of the hour, keep listening because we're
gonna have Anthony need On. We've had Anthony on before.

(36:30):
His company is called Flawn and they are a flowering
lawn company and they so they sell seeds of flowering
plants that you put in with the grass. So that
may be a possibility that you would do that along
with these these this lo mo or no mo grass
and have a combination of a little bit of flowering

(36:51):
going on and the turf to help hold that mound
for you at the same time. Cool.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
All right, sure, well, I will be listening all rank
you so much.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
All right, Katie, you have a great weekend. Good talking
with you all right. Bye bye and Greg and Ohio,
good morning.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
I was calling to review what you talked about last
week about how to treat the how to uh pixture
along with the crab grass and seating. I killed a
good portion of it. There's some a little bit left.
But what what's the you mentioned about split split sleet
seating or something like that. Yeah, what would what what

(37:33):
would be your recipe at this point, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
If you've killed more. And the thing about crabgrass is,
remember you know once it's an annual so once it dies,
it's done. So you know, whether the fall takes it out,
or you're in sect area, a we killer takes it out,
it's it's finished. What you deal with every year are
the seeds coming up again in thinned out areas. So
obviously your goal is to get the lawn thicker so

(37:56):
that the crab grass can't compete with the turf. So
you know, even if you never killed the crabgrass out,
I've gone in and what you had mentioned was a
slice or slit seeder. This thing looks looks like a uh,
I want to say, a coo like a roto tiller
and a lawnmower on steroids. Has a big hopper on
the top, several blades underneath, And what it does is

(38:19):
these blades cut grooves down through your existing grass or
material or into the soil and puts that seed because
seed soil contact is really important. Right in there so
what you can do is when you kill these areas out,
you just mow it really low with your lawnmower, rake
all that stuff out of there, and then and then
come back in and slice or slit seed right into

(38:42):
that and that dead material actually acts as a mulch
for you. So you know now what I like to do,
and this is an initial step and it's up to
you whether you want to take it. That next step
is I like to core air rate first, and that's
where you bring the core air rator in and pull
the plugs out. And so now you've got the you know,

(39:02):
you core aerate the lawn, you open that soil up,
let those dry, kind of rake them back in. If
you have a little compost, you can top dress a
little bit with that and rake it into the holes.
Then come back and slice or slit seed with your
new seed. As soon as you're done with that, come
back with a starter fertilizer. Get that down and then
moisture is the key. So you know, moisture is the

(39:24):
key to everything as far as getting it up growing.
And now you've got September, October, November, and many times
greg you know, into December, and by the time you
get to December, I think you'll be amazed how well
that lawn's going to look at that point. And that's
the whole thing is having it going into the spring
season nice and full. Now you will, knowing that you've
had crabgrass issues, even though you redid the lawn, you'll

(39:48):
still want to put down a pre emergent herbicide next
spring to stop any crab grass seeds from coming up.
So you still want to put that into your program.
But right now it's a matter of you know, seeding, core,
air rating, seating, starter, a fertilizer, water, and get that
new lawn established.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
So I would assume right now, yes, right now.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, and moy again, moisture is the key if
you if it's really dry, it can be hard to
do that. You may have to water ahead of time.
But but if you can core a rate, we're there.
We're at this, you know it. The whole month of
September is yours and that's the prime time. So you
got you know, now we got four weeks looking ahead
of us, and the sooner you can do it, the
better off you're going to be to get that grass

(40:30):
up and growing and keep keep with it. All fall
and you're just gonna be amazed what it's going to
look like. And I would suggest, I don't know what
you're thinking about seeding with. I do like the turf
type tall fescues. Turf type turf type tall fescue, okay,
and you'll find those in blends as well.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
How soon do I seed after I aerate?

Speaker 1 (40:54):
You can actually do it same day or you can.
It's a lot of work to core air rate if
you want to, uh do that, so core air raid.
Maybe let those drive for a day or two, those
cores and then kind of rake that out and then
come back and do your slice seating. So you could
do it same day if you wanted to, but a
lot of folks will do it. Let it sit for
a couple of days, come back and then do the
slices or slit the seating same word for both. This

(41:17):
means the same thing. And then go from there. Starter, fertilizer,
water and you are in.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Thank you very much, all.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Right, Greg, good talking with you. Appreciate the call. And
now's the time to do that cool season grasses, now's
the time for lawn and renovation. Now's the time for overseeding.
If you have turf type tall fescues, and you know,
we know that. You know, over three or four or
five years, sometimes they can thin just a little bit

(41:44):
here and there. It's good to come back in and
do a little overseating just to keep them nice and full.
And you would overseed it half the rate or a
little bit less then you normally would. So if it
said eight pounds per thousand square feed, overseeding would be
about three to four pounds per thousand square feet. Come
back in and do some overseating to help thinking those up.
And now's a good time for doing that. If you

(42:05):
don't do any seating at all, now's the time that
September is the month for that first lawn feeding, So
make sure you keep that in mind. And if you
got a few weeds out there you want to spot treat,
remember mid to late October is the best time to
go after those broadly weeds, even the hard to kill ones.
They react to the to the weed killers much better
at that time of the year than any other time

(42:26):
the rest of the year. Now, are you thinking about
maybe making your lawn a little bit more colorful better
for the pollenaders at all? I'm gonna do a flowering
lawn or maybe the backyard or part of the lawn.
I've got your answer coming up next, so stay tuned
here in the Garden with Ron Wilson, how is your

(42:52):
garden growing?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
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