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August 9, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Roun Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening as we are starting
to look towards the month of September fall right around
the corner. Can't believe it, can't wait for it. And
of course this month of August, enjoying what you've done
all spring as far as planting vegetable gardens should be

(00:58):
coming in strong, enjoying all those extra tomatoes and zucchinis
that are out there. And again remember if you have
extras that you would like to share with the folks
that don't have any, and you're looking for a food
pantry to donate your extra produce, ampleharvest dot org, put
your your click on growers, put your zip code in

(01:20):
there and you'll find the organizations around your area that
will accept your gift of homegrown produce and find homes
for those. So I'll be sure and check that out. Also,
while you're out in the yard managing by walking around
the usda APHIS has asked that of course they declare
August as Tree check month and they ask you to

(01:44):
check your trees for signs of insect issues disease issues,
especially those of the Asian longhorned beetle. And of course,
when the few areas where the Asian longhorned beetle has
been detected in the United State, they go in, they quarantine,
they eradicate, and it is gone. This is one of

(02:06):
those beetles that you cannot let it loose. It affects
a multitude of hardwood trees twelve plus types of hardwoods,
preferably maples, but it goes after a bunch I'm including
our beloved Buckeyes, and you just can't have this thing
running around. We have had an outbreak of it discovered

(02:26):
infestation close to us here where we do our show,
and they're still working. This was several years ago, but
every six months or so they released another ten twenty
acres of land that they've totally eradicated it from. So
it's very important that you keep your eyes out for
that and any other insect or disease issues that are

(02:47):
going on with your trees. It's called Tree Check Month.
And if you're not familiar with the Asian longhorn beetle,
just google Asian longhorn beetle, show you all about it.
You learn more about it and how to report it.
It's pretty easy to detect once you see what you're
looking for as far as the size of the holes,

(03:07):
and of course the beetle itself very distinguishable. Also, I
want to bring it to and I've done this for
the last four shows now to your attention, about a
critter that is really wreaking havoc on boxwood and in
our area south western Ohio three five. There's about six

(03:28):
or seven counties now that have been quarantined with this.
We see it now in Delaware, it's now in Massachusetts,
it's now in the state of New York, it's now
in the southeastern part of Michigan, and it's moving. And
it's a non native invasive insect called the box tree moth.

(03:49):
And so far what we've seen is they just devastate boxwood.
The larvae do. The caterpillars are just foracious, They are
just they they can destroy these things in two or
three days. And the problem is you can. You can
inspect your boxwood, but unless you look close, look down inside,
because they typically start inside down lower, a lot of

(04:13):
times you don't see them, and then all of a
sudden your boxwood are brown and you think you got boxwood.
I love it. Everybody's calling a boxwood blite because we've
had some other issues with boxwood. It's not a blight.
It's an insect and there could be in our area
as many as three generations of this throughout the season,
starting back in April and running all through right on
through October. So again it's a serious situation. If you

(04:36):
have boxwood in your landscape and you're east of the
Mississippi River wherever you're listening to us, UH learn more
about it, first of all, and you can go to
U b yg L dot O SU dot e U
and see all the postings that they have there. On
by the way, I forgot to mention it was also
confirmed in West UH West Virginia. UH see all the
postings there. But learn more about box tree moth. Learn

(05:02):
about the history and where it came from. Canada's had
it for about five years, Europe and Asia has had
it for one hundred plus years. That's where it came from.
But how they deal with it there, it's been interesting.
I've been doing some research with the gardeners in England
and the europe European countries on how they deal with

(05:23):
with this box tree moth, and they've been dealing with
it forever and it's been interesting to see some of
their what they do. In all, but again, learn more
about it. If you're east of the Mississippi River, you
may not be in your state, may not even close
to you right now. But if you have boxwood, learn
more about this particular insect and learn what to look for.

(05:45):
And if you've got it in your neighborhood and we're
seeing it. We're seeing it in the neighborhoods right now
where folks think that the boxwould blight has taken out
their boxwood, and that's not it at all. It's this
tree moth and not realizing what's going on and it's
just wiping out all the boxwood in the neighborhood. So
you know, learn more about it, get make your neighbors

(06:06):
aware of it, especially if you're in southwest about the
seven or eight county southwest Ohio, southeastern Michigan, most of
New York, Massachusetts, Delaware, northern part of West Virginia as well,
learn more about it. If and again, like I said,
as far as I'm concerned, if you're east of the
Mississippi Uh and you've got boxwood in your yard. Learn

(06:29):
about this this pest because it can be a serious
problem if this continues to uh to move through the
United States. And I got a funny feeling this one's
gonna keep keep moving. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's it's a it can be controlled. I mean it's
easily controlled. As a matter of fact. B t H.
The k bt K is the spray which is all organic,
all natural, uh, And it's really easy. Want you know,
a couple of shots and they're done. But you've got
to see it, detect it. You can't pre spray for it.
Once you see it, spray for it, you knock them out.

(07:04):
So it's easy to control. It's just that there could
be multiple generations and you've got to keep your eyes open.
And if you don't, I'll give you an example. Folks that
planet some boxwood in the spring and went on vacation
and I guess it was extended to leave thirty days
through forty five days, came back and their boxwood were
all totally brown. I've had people that went on vacation

(07:26):
for two weeks, came back their boxwood were totally brown.
That's how fast they do this. Two or three days
and they're done and then you think something. You know,
they dried out or whatever it may be, and it's
it's small. So anyway, learn more about it. Box tree moth.
If you have boxwood growing in your yard, learn more

(07:46):
about the box tree moth. Roll Tied, Alabama Herald.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Good morning, Hey, Roll Todd Ron, How are you, my friend?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm doing great, doing great. This guy back in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I want a wonderful play.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's a nice it's a nice time. The in law
family there has a small farm and the horses and
chickens and on. It was just very relaxing.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's great, imad I noticed. Yeah, the show last week
was a take when and sometimes it takes me two
shows to fully understand everything.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I love it. I love it. So what are you
up to?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay? Uh, we just got back from Seattle, spend a
week out there calling on customers, and got back last night.
My question is my gladiolas they've all they've they've done,
they're done blooming and they're just a green foliage. But
you know it's starting to fall over. Do I have
to wait until those leaves turn brown so they re

(08:44):
energize the bulbs for next spring, or can I start
cutting them now?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know, it is good to leave them green as
long as you can, because it does replace the ball
as the corn, as you well know. But you can
also do uh and I've done this many times. Just
go back through and maybe to back a third, you know,
and and they don't flop as much, but they've still
they're still green. And try to try to milk that

(09:08):
along as far as you can until they just start
to look bad, and then cut it off and have
at it from there. You dig those up, storm away
or do they make it over the winter?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I do?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Oh yeah, oh no, I did I dig I'll wait
and dig them up in October. And I got a
little bag. I put them in like a mesh bag
and bring up in the garage and then they come
back every year.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Do you use those for cutting flowers or do you
just let them grow flower? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, no, I get I probably got I bet I had,
I bet I planned hundred bulbs last year.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
What you know what it reminded me of when when
it goes up and it flops Ober and you got
the big hole in the middle. Here we go, reminding
me of the old house. Take deep just want.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, here, we'll see not long.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
My friend.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Hey, who do you guys? Who do you kick off with?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We open up with I think New Mexicoast State. No,
I'm sorry now, no, Florida State, down, down in down
tall Florida State.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
A little bit of challenge there for you.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
We think so, we think so. Of course, you know,
we bams think we're going to beat them fifty points.
I'm trying to tell these boys watch out. Hey. Last question,
oak leaf hydranges. Yes, they the flowers now are brown?
Can I go in and sniff off the flowers where
the flowers join into the stem or?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Is that gonna absolutely? No? They flower on last year's
would so if you cut back really hard, you're going
to take some of next year's buds off. But to deadhead,
I'm just going below that to the set of leaves
down below the flower the first set or second set.
You're good to go, hontee.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I've had prolific humming birds in the last three to
four weeks. Oh god, just I'm actually outside cleaning out
my feeders now. But I just and what's so funny
to watch him fight? They get up there and start
fighting with each.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Other pretty territorial, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yes, sir, they like at Alabama. They're like at Alabama
defense very territorial. We're what twenty twenty five, twenty four days.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I believe that's right around the court of the man.
I can't I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm gonna let you go with them. You one favor,
all right, tell tell my favorite bug man I said,
the big rolls hide to him.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
All right, he's listening. He'll be on in fifteen, So
we'll bring it up, all right, Harold, good talking with you.
Quick break, we come back. Time for a little home
improvement from the Manament the leisiend mister Gary Sulvan. And
then yes, buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (15:02):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for a little home improvement from the man, the myth,
the legend. He is the most listened to home improveman
show host in the entire Solar System. They think they
heard him out in that new the biggest black hole
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heard him out all the way out there. His website

(15:23):
Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only,
mister Gary Sullivan. Hello, mister Wilson, Hello mister Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
How is you?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm a doing pretty good. How about yourself? I was
sitting around the fireplace this past week for a fire
pit at the in laws out in Kansas City. Mm
hmm kind of quiet, and everybody's kind of you know,
he's telling us whatever and looking at the fire. And
my sister in law gets a text from her daughter
out in the Virginia and the dog had just gotten

(15:57):
a hold of a skunk and was trying to get
in the house and was asking her mom and dad
what they should do for the dog in the house.
And I just sat there in my reclining lawn chair
and said oder exit And they kept saying what do
you What do anybody say? I said oder exit and

(16:18):
they kept saying anybody down. I said odor exit, exit
it and they're like, what is that? I said, oder
x it T Just tell her odor exit and uh.
She sent me a text the next day thank you
me there you go. So there you have it, Ladies
and Gentlemen's nice and easy.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, all about easy man.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I took all the credit.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well that's fine, okay, I find no problem at all.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
All right, all right, but I took all the credit
for a knowing odor exit.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And there you go.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You're the man, my Gary Sullivan story of the day.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
There you go, making people happy.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
By the way, do you have naked ladies in your garden?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Sue doesn't allow them, she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
No, if missus Sullivan doesn't want to make ladies growing
in her garden, I don't blame her.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know, all right, must be a personal thing.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
How about if I sneak over some evening and plant some.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
As long as I can blame you, Well.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Know, you just say I don't know where they came from.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well I could say that, yeah I haven't, but I
wouldn't know where they came from.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's a surprise. Maybe that's why there's it's a surprise lily.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Are they blooming?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Now?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes they are. That's why they are plant pick of
the week.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
There's things blooming that I've never seen bloom before.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
The water Uh, there's no, that's you know what happens
this time of the year. There's a term for that.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
There is.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh, it's uh, which means rising again or coming up again, recurrent.
We use it for like a repeat bloomer. Like there's
magnoias and things that are flowering now that typically don't
flower this time of the year, kind of out of sequens,
and it happens some of them are more than others.
But remontant, remontanton.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, i'll tell you what. We planted coleus this year. Yes,
and with the rain in my proper care.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
How tall are they?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
They're beautiful? Oh my gosh, let's see. I don't know,
maybe a couple of feet. Yeah, I mean have you
pinned their little little flowering at the top.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Now, pinched that out?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Taking all its energy?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Well, you just remember it's grown for the foliage,
not the flower. The flowers pretty cool and at the
very end of the season I let them flower so
whatever late pollinators are still around they can enjoy it.
But otherwise we pinched that out. And if they start
to get tall and you want them to stay full
or you just keep pinching the top out of them. Ah,
and it keeps them nice and full. We had something
that we're getting three and a half four feet tall

(18:52):
and cut them in half and they come right back out.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
They're beautiful this year, and I'm sure it's the amount
of water.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh, absolutely, you give them much moisture. The colors are spectacular.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, they're gorgeous. I just saw the seed heads the
other night, and I was thinking I had a pinch
shows out. I was thinking of just take the energy
away from them, and they're gonna keep getting taller. But
I'm glad you brought that up, because then I reminded
me to ask you go.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Back a couple of inches into the plant, about above
a set of leaves. Pinch, just pinch it off, and
they'll sprout out more down below that.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
There you go, They actually do that thicker. Could I
include that as an entire stay of work? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I would say. It's going to take at least a
half a day for you to until I trimmed airy
leaf to pinch all those out of there.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'll do my best. I've gotten pretty good. I bet
you had taking up those stories. I'll bet me I
out of trouble.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'll bet you have three weeks from fall. Can you
believe that?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know what we love talking about? I can't wait
till spring and then we talk about it. I can't wait
till summer, and then you can't wait till fall.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's because I love all the seasons.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's the best time of the year. Fall, in my opinion,
it is the best time of the year. Give it
about mid September, about Thanksgiving. It's perfect. Ye in my book,
it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Perfect for home improvement too, for anything working in New
York swimming. I guess what are you gonna talk about today?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
We're going to talk about all kinds of things, Rod,
There's a lot to do. Okay, In fact, we'll even
address that shotgun fungus. And you're right, it doesn't fall
in my category of easy. It's not all about easy.
But there's no real super easy way. But you know,
moving that multual health all right?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Talk about this. I wonder how to get rid of
it if there is a way. Garrysulivon Garysullivan online dot Com.
Buggy Joe Boggs coming up next.

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Speaker 7 (23:32):
Boy, I'll tell you, I don't know what a what
a difference to?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Then crickets too? There we go, Yeah, to think about it.
For me, they're just messing with you.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
What a difference a year makes?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Really?

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Yeah, that's that's open ended, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, you know, just before, just before it came on.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
You were doing the weather and UH isolated Downforce tomorrow.
What was happening a year ago? I mean, please, oh
my gosh, we were talking about the need for watering
and historical historical droughout last year and I was just
thinking about when you said that, I was thinking, oh

(24:17):
my goodness. You know, at this point we forgot what
mowing the lawns were, right, I mean it was just
everything was brown and and you didn't know what was
going to happen next. But all that brand has led
to one of the largest outbreaks coverages of crabgrass. I
think I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I have more crabgrass in my yard than I've ever had,
especially along the sidewalks and that type. But then it
is it is thick. As much.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
It is thick, it's doing well. I mean, if you
want crabgrass lines, we got them. Yes, some lines I'm
seeing are predominantly crabgrass, which you know, we're just paying
for what happened last year. And you and I talked
about this that you know, the best time to seed
alawn is in the fall, but we had a drought,
so you really couldn't do it. The second best time

(25:09):
is really anytime you can get the seed down, you know,
as long as you can water, but actually spring, and
you know, we used to kind of make more of
a deal out of this, and I think we should have,
you know, making people perhaps believe that it's worth it's
not worthwhile putting seed down in the spring. Well, the
reason that we that newly seeded turf grass in the

(25:33):
spring can struggle is because you have such a short
period of time before you get into the hot, dry days,
and those those grass plants are seedlings usually by them
still considered seedlings. If you if you're overseed in the
fall or seed in the fall, you have a lot
of growth through the winter. I mean a lot of

(25:54):
folks don't realize this. These cool season grasses, though, they
will keep growing as long of the the soil isn't frozen.
So that's when we like to see people overseen the lawn.
But in a pinch. And like last year, for example,
you and I were talking about this, I think early
on the radio, you and you know, when I came

(26:17):
out of you patients or you know, from the winter,
you and I talked about this idea that well, people
maybe need to be doing a little work with their
lawns because a thick lawn will out compete crabgrass. You know,
you've seen it, I've seen it. You you don't even
have to put down, you know, a crabgrass preventer. I mean,

(26:37):
that's always that has become in our society, almost like
a ritual in the spring. Right, But if if that
lawn is thick, it's going to out compete the crab grass.
But crabgrass is such an opportunistic plan if it has
any openings, any weaknesses, well, crabgrass will exploit it to
to show what we have right now. And now the

(27:01):
good news is that that crackgrass is an annual grass,
so it won't be around next year. The bad news
is wait till it dies in the fall, which is
officially what three weeks of I can't believe you said
that three weeks, but wait till it dies in the fall,
and it's going to be brown City, right that done?

(27:23):
Almost look like we had a drop problem. So again,
just bringing all these things up, I realize now that
I'm just full of positive attitude, aren't I?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, yes, you know, on a serious you know, being
in the retail business and watching retail trends and sales
and things like that. Lawn care, believe it or not,
lawn care products this past spring were not very big,
and that I don't know because the rain we got early,

(27:53):
the grass screened up early, It came on quick. We
were mowing quick early. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Seed sales and fertilizer sales, and that we're actually down
a tad from well so I think sometimes you know,
you also is all of a sudden it's raining, and it's
and everything you got there, starts greening up, whether it's
your grass or not your grass, and it's all green.
So why do anything? I don't know, But you're right,
that's uh this fall. That's why I was saying early

(28:24):
this fall, you know, put your plans in place now,
especially if you've got you know, things you need to
totally get rid of, like nimble will something like that.
Uh oh yeah, that you need to you know, now's
the time you've got to jump on that. So you're
ready to take care of seating and core, air rating
and all. Once we start getting into September.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
You make a very good point, and much well, yes
we're writing these down point one point, you know, because
we have the big tennis tournament right then here.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So can you hear the country music festival at your house?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I could?

Speaker 7 (28:59):
I I bet you can hear it?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, just sitting in the inside the house, we can.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Hear it outside. It is amazing. I didn't think we could.
I mean, I didn't know what it was of how
somebody's playing a radio the near to hand. But back
to the back to the lawn care. You know one
thing that that that I think you're exactly right. We
we I can speak for myself on this I was
paying attention to certain areas of my lawn that I

(29:28):
was not able to water as well. And of course,
you know I talked about this last summer. The best
thing we could do would be just the water to
keep the crowns alive, the growing point on the plant.
And we tend to forget cool season grasses. You know,
they can go summer dormant, but no problem at all.
You know that they become straw collared. That's that's a

(29:50):
good collar. If they become gray, you're in trouble. But
straw collar, that's a good collar. But there was one
area that I just couldn't drag the hose consistently to
to keep the crown well, to keep the plants I
think watered well enough. And so this spring I was
really keeping an eye on that one area not big
and you're exactly right wrong. And I was like, well,

(30:12):
you know, I'm kind of surprised how much grass is
coming back. I should have overseeded it. But I was thinking, well,
you know that those plants, you know, get they spread out,
you know, because of it. I have tall fescue turps,
I tall fescue, and and they do you know, tillers,
so you do get more width of a plant. I

(30:32):
was thinking, now they're gonna it's going to look pretty good. Wrong,
it was wrong for about one week. If I had overseeded,
I would have been in a lot better shape. And
I just didn't do it. So, you know, amplify that
by acres and acres. So it brings up a point

(30:53):
that folks might be thinking, well, you know, I'm making
it through the summer. And this is sometimes where we
do have a difficult time with people addressing lawn issues
if they want a great looking lawn, and that is
that you were coming up on it. If you look
at your lawn and you're saying, I have way more
perennial weeds, like you said nimblewell grassy weed, I have

(31:18):
way more weeds. Maybe the crabgrass has gotten so thick
that when you get down and part the crabgrass, you
find it has is suppressed, you know, the preferred grass.
I mean, there are some lines I think that's happening.
I don't see any regular grass coming up. Well, then
it may be time to consider doing something, you know,

(31:41):
in terms of renovation, and that can take a lot
of effort. If you do have to use an herviside.
Make sure you're not using you know, you and I
talked about this. We used to always say make the
application of round up in August. But what's in round
up right now a little different life Estate. It's a

(32:01):
different formula and it's not going to be one you'd
want to be doing that with. So the point being
is that, all right, you know you're going to have
to pick your poison and figure out what you're going
to use if you have to kill everything, and then
you need to get it started pretty soon because the
seating should be happening first part of September, late August
one September to get those plants up.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
But but life Estate is available for homeowners rough like
Fertilo exactly exactly.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Just look at the what was that name again? I
want to hear it, So there you go. Make sure
that when you look at that label it says life estate,
because that is the that's the killer that won't leave
a residue in the lawn that can suppress you know,
the uh germination of the grass seed. But as I said,

(32:55):
you know, people are going to need to be making
that decision very soon. I may have to do that
in a few spots, but I'll probably spot seed. I'm
thinking some people may be wanting to rent a slice
seater or a slit seater. The same piece of equipment
slices through that organic matter sets that seed right on
the surface of the soil. You don't want to bury

(33:17):
the seed, and it is the best way to bring
along around. Now you don't have to kill everything to
have a great result. As a matter of fact, I
actually have been in many years i've been involved in this,
I've really not ever done a complete renovation. I've only
just used a slice seed and it does very very well.

(33:38):
You can bring a line back pretty even with this
crab grass. Remember it's going to die so well.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Sometimes it even tears the crabgrass out for you.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
It does. A slice seeder will just cut right through those.
You're exactly right, you're exact, and then that you know,
then the sliced up crabgrass is going to serve almost
like you know, the straw that would normally put We
gotta take a.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, take a little break. We're gonna come right back
with the more of the buggy Joe Bogs Report Here
in the Garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (36:06):
H Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Time for part two of the Budget Joe Boggs Report.
Mister Joe Boggs O s U Extension B Y G

(36:28):
L dot O s U dot E d U. Did
I text you this week? Yes, from from Kansas.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
I You're not in Kansas anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I tell you that I can.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
So you did, and you said that the fault webborm
was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I said, look look what I found out here. The
wonder we couldn't find it in our area was all
that's all out there?

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Yes, well somebody said the little caterpillar go young man
and lady or they are. Yeah, seriously, we got we
have a lot to talk about bagworms, fall web worm
enough to see now and fall web worm is is
making a comeback slowly, but surely you know it is
a native insect. And of course I posted this on

(37:18):
the Big Ole this past week where h you know,
I'm seeing a few more nests in in the Ohio
area than I've seen in the last few years.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Where did they go?

Speaker 7 (37:30):
That's normal? Well, you know there are something like what
thirty some different predators, and I think like fifty different parasitoids.
And the number is huge because fall weberm fall webworm
is a native insect, and it means that over time
there have been so many things that have found it
to be good to eat. So as we get high populations.

(37:54):
I kind of compare it to foxes and rabbits, right,
you know, we know foxes eat rabbits. Well, as the
rabbit population expands, foxes the fox population expands. Eventually, you know,
they cause a decline in the rabbits. The same thing
happens with fall webworm, where once you start having a
lot of meat, you get the meat eaters taking it out,

(38:16):
and so then we have what we call a population crash,
meaning that the numbers just go way down. In this case,
you know, they went very low, didn't they. I Mean,
we used to talk about fall web worm all the
time about this time of the year, and for the
last maybe four or five years. Wrong, I need to
go back and look, because I've been kind of belly

(38:36):
aching about it in the bagel that they've been no shows.
But eventually, of course, you know, they don't completely go away,
and eventually they start building back, and that's what I
think we're seeing. I'm not predicting next year is going
to be really bad. I'm just saying that, Okay, they'll
rise again and then something will happen, you know, overall,

(38:58):
and they'll drop. Same thing with bagworms, you know, I
would say that this season we're seeing more bagworms than
we've seen in the last four or five years.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
And eventually, though, you know, we'll see a crash. And
one thing that's responsible for causing insects to have a
difficult time are on the wing. This is a segway,
So I hope you're sitting down. I am one of
your one of our one of our favorite insects. Robber
flies are on the wing now. Yes, yes, I posted

(39:32):
on this yesterday Eric Draper from Jialogha County. On this
past Tuesday, we have a what's called a big loom
in service, and Eric showed some pictures that were taken
by his colleague there in Jeogha County, Wendy Ward, and
the picture was a beautiful shot of a robber fly
that honestly I've never gotten a picture of, although originally

(39:56):
Ron I used to call all my big robber fly
pictures red footed cannibal flies. And it turned out that
there's a slight variation in appearance. And if you scroll
down on my big alert, you see you'll see what
I'm talking about. What I was actually seeing was the
maroon leg lion fly.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, people, these years I had that framed and posted
on my desk as a robber fly. Then I had
to scratch that out last year and say, Joe found
out this isn't ably it was, so I scratched it out.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
It wasn't the cannibal fly. So so Wendy got a
great shot of a cannibal fly. It's the lead image
in the in the alert, the big ol'd alert, and uh,
and it's eating what I think is a moth. I
can't couldn't really tell. All I know is doing what
rubber flies do. Now, these flies, the giant robber flies,

(40:54):
there's one genus that where we have flies that about
intention and a half long. They're big, very narrow bodies,
very long dangling legs, and bulbous eyes all the better
to see you with right and no neck. But a
huge looks like a humped back. That's their thorax and

(41:19):
it's actually a battering ram because what they do and
the title of the big Old Alert is robber flies
are aerobatic wonders. These are one of the few insects
that do this. As predators, they will fly through the
air when they spot a prey, which I saw. This
happened with a bald faced hornet several years ago. I

(41:39):
heard the buzzing and because you could hear these right,
I mean you can hear them coming, you know. I
heard the buzzing and then all of a sudden, I
heard a snap. It really sound like somebody, you know,
snap their fingers. And about that time I saw this hornet.
I spotted what was happening, and I saw this hornet tumbling.
It wasn't very far from me, and then the robber

(42:01):
flies swooped down and grabbed it out of the air.
Now it rammed the hornet in mid air, and it's
that stunned the hornet. And then these robber flies, if
you look at the tips of their legs, we call
what's at the end tarsal claws. But those tarsal claws
are like grappling hooks. And so as soon as that

(42:22):
bald faced hornet was stunned, the robber fly grabbed it
with the out of the air with those grappling hooked legs,
and then immediately injected neurotoxins and that then would incapacitate,
doesn't kill, would incapacitate that hornet or anything else that
they grabbed out of the air, and then they land

(42:43):
and they inject stomach contents which would be you know,
digestive juices into their prey and use their piercing sucking
mouthparts to have an insect slurping. Yes, the whole story. Yes,
it's just an amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
That story.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
It is really quite an interesting story. And but the
back to this idea.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
And at the end of this, Danny was eating a
yogurt while you were talking about that, and I saw
him on the screen. He just spit it back out.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Well, that's that's digestive.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
There you go, That's how it works. Really, that's why
he's doing That's it.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
So Yeah, a lot of neat things happening right now.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Right I'm sorry there is I'm sorry we ran out
of time, but I'm sure he'll save some of that
for us for next week.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
Absolutely, you have a good week.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Thanks Joe Buggy, Joe Box again. B Y G L.
Dot O s U dot e du. Thanks all our collers,
thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course of Danny Lees and
the DURINGO Kid, our producer, because without Danny, none of
this stuff what happens to Dan as always, thank you
so much for all that you do to make us
sound like we do and make everything work. Thank you, sir.
Now do yourself a favor. Falls right around the corner.

(43:56):
Where you're gonna plant a tree or two or three.
Where are you gonna plant those native plants and native ours,
Where you're gonna plant those pollinator plants. How are you
gonna keep pampering your worms, gonna get the kids and
dogs of all the gardening by all means, whatever you're doing,
all your planning, make this weekend the best weekend of
your life. See you.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Not gardening questions. Ron has the answers at one eight
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