Ron Wilson 9/13/2025 Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning, I'm run Wilson, your personal
yard boy. Don't forget our website, Run Wilson online dot com,
Facebook page. In the garden with ron Wilson and as
I promise, it's time for a bifurcation of segments, whether
it's the weather and in the trees with Ronnie Rothas.
He's the amateur meteorologist weather Predictor Extraordinaire, Registered Consulting harbors

(00:59):
I State Boards, Certified Master Arboris. He's got about ten
other plaques on his office wall as well, with all
kinds of certifications. He's a carnacopia filled with kopious amounts
of strange and unusual information. His website arbordoctor dot com.
Dadies and gentlemen, ron Roths sit down, sit down, Good morning, sir,

(01:26):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
If I was any better, I would be run rothis.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
You can have the work on being better than not
because it's I'm not much better than you, but because
you need to have higher.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I need have what.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
You have higher goals.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
We're losing you. You're fading in and out on us
for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Anyway, say, is that any better?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's better? Thank you. I was going to also say
that you were our professional at Shinrin Yoku.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I have no idea what that.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Is professional forest bather because you're always in the trees
and look, you're always happy and upbeat, had a very
positive attitude. And that's because you hang out in the trees.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And there is there's abundant scientific research that shows the
exposure to hanging out in the trees and get your greenery.
And as you were talking out a little bit earlier
in the show, you know, with everything that we've had
happening recently in the country, going out and doing some
gardening or taking a walk in the woods, that you know,

(02:40):
the science is very clear that it is very beneficial
to our mental health.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And I.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
And if you can't you can't think of a park
or somewhere to go, I just say go to your
local garden so you don't have to buy anything, just
walk through and enjoy all the stuff they've got right now,
lots of color, lots of fall color, and the pumpkins
and all and just chill out.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, yeah, it's I'll tell you what. There's some beautiful
garden centers around ma'am Nema on the west side of Cincinnati,
and uh, you know White Out Gardens is beautiful and
beautiful gardens. East side of Cincinnati, you have beautiful garden centers.

(03:20):
Uh so excuses, but there are also works. Cincinnati area
is just really blessed to have some some beautiful parks
both in the city. I'm sure other you're broadcast in
a very similars really really no excuses, and it's getting

(03:41):
like you know, there is in the right now. Yeah,
fift degrees right now, there's small so yeah, get out
evening or you're walking in the woods. It's going to
be much cooler under those fees. And it is out
in the open somewhere. It's a great way, you know,

(04:03):
pay attention to something else other than you know that.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
No doubt about it. Talk with Ron Roethis's website arbordoctor
dot com. Yes he is fading in and out, but
we'll get that corrected somehow. Uh. Before we go into
the break, first thing I want to talk about. Oh,
we just lost him, so we'll pick him back up again.
I don't know what was going on. Call him back here. Yeah,
we're going to try to reconnect with him. But when
I was talking about the forest bathing, it's it's known
as shinrin yoku, and it really is true, uh, going

(04:33):
out there and and and and moving through, walking through,
sitting down, enjoying all the different aspects that you see.
You know, one thing I've always told and if you've
listened our show over the years, I've always said that
even if you're not a hunter, all right, deer hunting,
there's something about deer hunting. Just do it. Don't deer hunt.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Call back immediately because he is Ron rothalson.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Because he is Ron rothis, but don't you don't have
to deer hunt, but do like you would if you
were deer hunting, where you go out at four o'clock
in the morning in a complete darkness, get yourself set
up in the woods, you know, wherever we may be,
in a stand or down on the ground, and just
sit there and watch as mother Nature comes to life
and the sun comes up. You will be I don't know,

(05:13):
there's something about that experience that is absolutely phenomenal. And
that's why you see Ron sometimes climb up in the
tree and just hang out at four in the morning
until the sun comes up. And then he goes to work. Yes,
is that what I did? I don't know. I think
it's what you do. Hey, all right, so we got

(05:34):
you back, hopefully we got you connected here. Let's talk.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
First of all, it would have been much more exciting
that when I was in the studio with you a
couple of weeks ago. You know, I'm there one minute,
gone the next.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That would be interesting. It would be you're still fading
it out a little bit. But let's let's try this.
Get this to the segment. Uh, First of all, looking
at the weather we are now, if I'm not mistaken,
looking at the drought monitor for the Midwest most to
the state of Ohio, is it either a slight or
moderate drought.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, it's it's kind of scattered, but you know there
areas they're just normally dry. But I think anfer this
is in a moderate drought. Yeah, it's it's very driver hell,
and the weather forecast is not prominent because we have humidities,
high temperatures in the upper eighties or even low nineties

(06:30):
for one or two days. It's it's not a pretty
picture right now. Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
So as we're looking out there right now, as far
as watering goes. You know, I think we're I don't
know where we are as far as rainfall in area,
and you can't really look at that because you just
have to look and say, yeah, we are extremely dry.
One of my points earlier on was that, you know,
we've got to stick with this watering, especially those evergreens.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, you know, rainfall is kind of variable. But at
my loge, uh you know, Shiwy at the west west
side of Cincinnati, basically I had basically one farm in
the month of August. Total rainfall for the entire month
was one point which one point one month total rainfall

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months of September so far a zero point sixty nine inches,
So I mean one point eight inches the first of August.
That is maybe a third of what we would get
that in that time period. So yes, I mean newly
transplanted trees. Everything's but really just about everything, because Ron,

(07:44):
what do we talk about every year in January, February, March,
and it is you know, becoming cercle. Right now with
Halloween coming up a month or so, the ghosts of
droughts passed, and right is the time when there either
do ghosts of droughts passed to show up next spring

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or prevent that? And what are the ghosts of droughts passed?
Evergreens trees declining, every problems turning brown, you know, three
months after the drought, five months after the rout drought,
six months after the drought. Whatever. I can't tell you
how many times here I've gotten calls, well, you know,

(08:32):
I don't understand why my evergreens turning brown in March
or April or June. And I go up drought stressed
and said, but it's pouring day and every day, and
it's like, yeah, but it wasn't last fall. So you know,
right now is the to all that? And people say
things like, well I can't afford the water bill. Well,

(08:55):
you know, if you lose I've green giant arbury, it's
gonna cost many hundreds if not, you know, a few
thousand dollars if you have someone pump, I'm canny afford that.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Last year I think the most of the most it's
a water bill that I had was maybe a couple
hundred bucks. Well, you can't buy one eight foot green
giant arbrovity and have it planted for that, so you know,
it's just it's an investment. In the future right now,

(09:32):
And I don't mean getting out there. You're built through
the roof and watering every day. It's sensible watering an
inch per week, you know, put the sprinkler out there,
put a little coffee can out, or buy a little
rain gage from the heartstold, and and maasure how much
water you're putting out so you're not overdoing it with

(09:53):
the watering. You don't want you to be out there,
you know, watering every day areas of since many so
it may be areas I know you're nationwide, the areas
the sandy soil. Some of those areas do more frequent water.
But in the area, you know, it's it's one air

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and for the hen and water. So you know, put
the sprinkle and then don't water that area again for
a week or ten days or whatever. But when you
do water, make sure you're putting an inch down at least.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yep Ryn, we're losing you big time. Let's let's take
a break when we come back. I got questions about
ron as far as what happens if trees are planted
too deep, So we're going to jump back into tree care.
But again, the big, the main you know thing here
right now is as I mentioned earlier in the show,
water is very, very important, and his saying about the

(10:50):
ghosts of the droughts past is true. And if it
cost you another one hundred bucks a month to water
extra to protect all those plants, it's worth the one
hundred dollars because it'll cost you a heck a lot
more than that to replace those plants down the roade,
plus the time involved to get them to grow. Eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. That's our
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
Talking your arading at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five this morning. Our of course, are hobby
metrogist and I say certified arburst and the all kinds
of other things that he has plaques on his wall for.
I mean, he knows his stuff. Website arbordoctor dot com
ronrothis so hopefully we're not gonna get your fading in
and out here. We got you connected to try it again.

(14:22):
But so, you know, one of the things that you
and I kind of you especially, but working on trying
to really bring around around the awareness about show me
that root flair planting trees properly, and of course fall
being a great time for planting. Uh, and so a
lot of trees are gonna get planted this fall. But
do you go out and I do occasionally and find

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these trees that are struggling or not doing so well,
and you clear things away and you find out they're
two three, four, five six inches too deep into the ground.
So when that happens and they've been growing for a
couple of years, can you save trees that are planted
too deep?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You can? It depends sometimes on how long it's been
like that. People will call me out to look at mature,
older trees and sometimes it's basically past the point you
can do anything. The younger the tree is, the more

(15:23):
success you're going to have. And I whant to say younger,
I mean it can be you know, several years after
it was planted there, you know, a number of years
and still be fine. But having soil up over the
root flare no matter how old the tree is. And
I've uncovered root flares on trees that you know that
were decades old, and it really really helps. But you know,

(15:48):
the deep planning, the buried riot flair is a big problem.
And what will happen with some trees, and probably the
worst is red maple, is when they are too deep,
they'll form a secondary root system up above the main
root flare, and some of those roots will you know,
grow around the trunk of the tree, and as the

(16:09):
trunk of the tree grows, will start to girdle the
trunk of the tree. And it's that girdling process and
whatnot that makes some of that correction very difficult to
impossible over time, so you really want to catch it
before that happens. The other thing that happens is roots

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start growing upwards from the buried root flare, so over
time that root system comes back up to the surface,
and if you try to dig down and uncover the
root flare, you end up running into the main root
system that's coming upwards. So all you can really achieve
is a little bit of a dish around the base
of the tree. So ideally you want to correct that

(16:54):
when you plant the tree, and you know, just a
major caution to your listening. I run into it on
almost every landscape where trees, root systems are buried when
planted by professional landscapers. So please don't assume because your

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tree was professionally planted, that was planted at the right depth.
In fact, I would assume that it very well wasn't
unless you go out and actually find that the root
flair is visible, because it's very often is not. You know,
pictures worth a thousand words. Knowing what we're going to
talk about this morning, I went to my blog site,

(17:39):
which if listeners go to Arbordoctor dot com and you'll
see blog at the top. I put two posts on there.
One is the tree planting guide that the Ohio Chapter
ISA developed last year and I was on that committee,
which shows how a tree should be planted. And then
the other posts that I put on this morning was

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fixing deep planting and buried root flares and actually has
videos on there showing how that root flare depth correction
can actually be done.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
If a tree, a younger tree, let's say he's been
planning for two or three years and it winds up
being six inches below the ground. Is that a situation
where you would really suggest coming in and maybe digging
the tree back up and replanting it. I mean, that's
a lot of excavation to get sort off the top
of the that root flare. And then what do you
do now your trees planted in a depression?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah? I hate to say it depends, but it depends. Okay,
if the tree is truly you know, six inches deep
in a flat area, and you're going to have a
serious depression at some point. I would say, yeah, you
might have to dig the tree up and replant it.

(18:55):
I really tried to avoid that because you know, when
the tree has been in for a while, it's it's
you know, it's root system has taken hold, it's four
new roots. When you dig up the tree, you cut
a lot of those roots, and you're really starting over
with that tree, right you know, you're you're kind of
replanting it. So it's so it's very hard on the tree.

(19:17):
And if you have a depression around the tree, you know,
people say, isn't water going to collect around there? Well, yeah,
it made temporarily in a heavy rainstorm, But if your
soil is you know, well drained, you're just normally well drained,
it'll percolate into the into the soil and disperse within

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you know, an hour or so. So it's not a
problem really to have a depression around the tree. But
like I said, obviously, if it's if it's too deep
and six inches it might be might be getting there.
You kind of have to do it eventually.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Go to his website arbordoctor dot com. He has posted
some things videos and pictures there for you to see
what you should be looking for. And again, if you're
not sure, call out your certified arbist had them take
a look at the tree as well. Ron Roth, It's
always a pleasure arbordoctor dot com. Take care. How is

(20:17):
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Speaker 1 (21:59):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
it's time to get a little update with our wild birds.
And you know who we're gonna talk to. She knows
more about wild birds than wild birds know about wild birds.
As a matter of fact, if you're having a party
at your house, invite her over and she'll go outside,
stand on your patio, put her arms out to her sides.
She'll look on a Saint Francis statue and the birds
land all over her, on her shoulders, her head. And

(22:21):
you know what, they don't poop on her. They just
enjoy having her there. She is the She's just like
the grand Poopa of all of the birds. From wild
Birds Unlimited, our wild wing Wonder Monica Rubaker.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
The morning, thank you all those birds.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
All those birds lined up on the ledges this morning
looking in the windows. Yeah, she's got to be on there.
Oh yeah, pecking on the windows. Monica Brubaker, how are you.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
Yes, good to see you, to talk to you. Yes,
I'm very good. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You can imagine that you're seeing me. I imagine when
I'm talking to people, I see you. So yeah, there
there you go, all right, right off the bat website
for everybody.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
WBU dot com, slash Westchester or Springbar.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
There you go, and lots of great information on there
for you as well. You guys still doing classes and
things like that.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Yeah, we're doing Yeah, walks and talks we've got coming up.
Let's see, Raptors Inc. Is going to be visiting us
on October twelfth with yeah, with some owls. So they're
going to be talking about owls.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:35):
Look at look on the website and there's a link
that shows all of our walks and talks. We updated
regularly and there will be things, you know, throughout the year.
Sure we don't just do it in the summer. We
you know, continue to have things available throughout so yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Excellent, All right, let's take a look at our wild
words out there. I don't know how often you get
a chance to listen to our show because you're always
traveling learning more about birds around the country. But had
an eagle in our backyard about a month and a
half of that. Yeah, it was the greatest thing.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Ever, just hanging out.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, it was. It was until a big a murder
of crows I guess that's what they're called. Oh yeah,
took off after it and chased it over to the fields.
We get them every now and then in our nursery.
We'll see him by the lakes, up in the trees.
But this came out. It was a younger one. This
one came out from the woods right behind our house.
And I had just gotten home. Swept down across the

(24:34):
lawn and I was like, whatne like an airplane And
it was like, what the heck is? Oh my gosh,
And I went outside and went back up on the top.
And then when trotted over our house, I went out
the front door. Of course, I don't have my cell
phone with me, right and I'm looking and I don't
see it. I look back and it's sitting on top
of our roof, on this bricked divider, and he's sitting

(24:57):
really still, and I put my hand up because the
sun was out look at him, and then he took
off again and flew and then went back to the woods.
And then all of a sudden, I hear all these
crows going nuts, and I look out and I can
see them on his tail as he's flying back across
his field, headed like southeast or so. It was absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
Yes, you love it when that happens.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh yeah, they were all over it. I mean, and
they were on him too. They didn't mess around, but
that thing was so big. It was phenomenal. So see,
I never see orioles in my yard, but I get
an eagle, I'll take it. Oh. I had goosebumps, I'm

(25:44):
telling you, and I still get goosebumps. Tell the story.
So we've gone through Uh we're in a bit of
a drought right now in our area. It's been it's
been hot. Uh we cooled down, which has been nice
over the last couple of weeks, but very very dry.
How is this affecting both our birds that hang out
all the year, and then of course the migratory birds
are now starting to move through. I'm assuming.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
They are, Yes, they are. The there's lots of warblers
coming through right now. You know, if you've got a
bird bath, you've probably noticed that. You know, the activity
there has definitely picked up. I mean because they are
searching for the water. But you know it affects of course,
you know with leaves dropping and berries. You know, there's

(26:32):
a lot of natural food out right now and it
may be dropping early, but there's lots out there for them.
So your feeders may actually slow down. But depending on
what you know, you're migrating birds are coming through, it
might be very busy at any given time, so so

(26:53):
keep them going.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So you know, right now we start to see an
increase in monarch butterflies in our area as there's yeah,
migrate south, a lot of folks that haven't seen them,
like all of a sudden they're here. Uh so you know,
everybody's scrambling to get milkweed out and things like that
to help them along. So as we're looking at migratory
birds and they're a very very important part in course,

(27:16):
they're they're they're you know, the losses of birds have
been phenomenal, just like pollinators. They're on this journey as well.
Should our seed mixes and our feeders change a little
bit right now to kind of compensate for all the
different types of birds that are moving through or or
should we do anything specific or just stick with what
we're doing.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
I think that adding millet to your mix right now,
a light a light blend, you know, with a light
a little bit of millet, isn't a bad idea. Throughout
the fall, we've got ground feeders that are coming in.
We'll have more ground feeders during the fall in the
winter than any other time of year. So you know,

(27:57):
you can watch for junk gos and like ground white
throated sparrows and they will eat off the ground. So
but don't you know the millet has to be somewhat
controlled in our area because it does attract our non
native sparrows that can be very aggressive. So just a

(28:17):
light mix of millet is good, you know, and even
putting out a ground feeder is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Now, when you say a ground fater, for somebody that's
not familiar, what is a ground.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
Feeder, Well, you know, we've got feeders that actually do
sit on the ground because some birds don't like to
go up to go up to feeders and they stay
on the ground for it. So then it becomes open
to of course our friends squirrels, raccoons. But the beauty
of what we have at wild Birds Unlimited is we

(28:49):
have a seed that is hot pepper seed. It's got
hot pepper, and mammals like you and I, squirrels, raccoons
taste hot pepper that birds do not. So you can,
you know, put your feeders with hot pepper and and
it'll be just for your birds. And that was a

(29:11):
great option.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that a that's available? I know you sell wild
Birds Unlimited, you sell see that's pre coded with with
that capstation, But can you buy that and do it
yourself too?

Speaker 8 (29:23):
Well? The thing is is that what we have is
extremely hot. You know, there's different levels right of rot,
so what you would use number one is probably not.
I mean, you know you don't want it to be
airborne to get in your eyes or anything else. So yeah,
sure you can and you can try it, but you

(29:45):
know you're going to be better off just buying it
and already mixed and no problems with it being airborne.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know, that's been that's been around now for seems
very consistent for several years as far as being a
good repellent for the man animals, the raccoons and the squirrels.
I mean, I think that's become pretty much the go
to now right for keeping the keeping the squirrels out.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Yeah, I mean, it definitely is. And I know a
lot of people get concerned about, you know, the feeding
of hot pepper, but wild birds. You know, that's what
we do. We make sure we guarantee it's going to
be safe for your birds. It's you know, not going
to harm them or your squirrels and raccoons. They may

(30:31):
taste it, okay, you know, they may try it, but
it's certainly not going to harm them. So yeah, it
is a viable option. There's other ways, well, we can
keep the squirrels and raccoons off.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You caught that there are other ways. Let's take a break.
We got more with Monica brew Bakers. Here is our
wild Winged Wonder from wild Birds Unlimited. We'll find out
what some of those other options are and what we
should be doing for our birds as we start to
cruise into the fall season. Here in the garden with
Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (33:01):
Welcome back, you're in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're
talking birds with our wild Winged Wonder from wild Birds
Unlimited Monica Brubaker. And you know one of the things
that I know you I bet you guys get asked
this every day at least once in your outlets. You know,
what do I do about the squirrels? And I know
they drive just dry people nuts, they do. And right

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now we grow those little mini decorative pumpkins and they're
into those big time. They have just destroyed, which tells
me twofold. I was trying to explain to my wife.
One is it's really dry out and they're looking for moisture.
So if they find that moisture, they're in and maybe
there's gonna be a tough winner.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Maybe that's a little mother nature predictor there. They're jumping
into those already. But birds are the same way. So
you've got to you, as you said earlier, keep that
water going so important. Bird feeders may not be on
there quite as much right now because the supply naturally
is good, but you still want to keep the bird
feeder going.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
Definitely, you know, no, right now it's a good time,
you know, to like reevaluate your whole setup there out there,
you know, have you got everything set up as you
want it.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
We've got great pole systems you know that allow you
to hang your feeders in multiple different ways. You know,
clean your feeders, bring your feeders in, get them a
good wash, you know, put them back out. We're having
a feeder swap coming up mid October where you bring
your old feeders in and we're going to give you

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twenty percent off on a new feeder. Cool so you know,
kind of evaluate what's.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Going on, and again get working my way towards the
squirrel issue. As far as the squirrel proof bird feeders
and ways, there are ways to get around them, there.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
Are, and you know, so much of it has to
do with placement. I mean, we do have squirrel proof
feeders themselves that work. They really do work. But in
terms of hanging a feeder out and keeping a squirrel
off of that, you know, it's a matter of placement
and then you know the use of baffles so that

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they can't climb up to get to your feeders. But
it can be done. Everybody says, now it can. I've
tried everything. Well, you know, come on in We're going
to talk to you and you know, help you out
because it can be without the use of you know,
hot pepper.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, it can be done, says Monica brew Baker, and
she is our wild winged Wonder And if anybody knows
that it can be done, it would be Monica brew
Baker talking about the birds. So Wildbird's Unlimited, of course,
and they do such a great job.

Speaker 9 (35:43):
Again, your website is wbu dot com slash Westchester or Springboro.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Got a couple of locations for you to check out there.
Of course, wild Birds Unlimited for folks that aren't listening
are from the Cincinnati area.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
They're all around, they are, but three hundred and eighty
store franchise.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Wow, that's all.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
Yeah, I've been around since nineteen eighty two. So and
Jim Carpenter started it. He's still involved. Yeah, the great
you know, the whole the whole company is just uh,
you know, we want to bring nature to you. And
you know we're not a high cell we don't try
to push product on you. We're really concerned about your needs.

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What do you need, what do you want? And you
know we'll figure out the best solutions for it. So, yeah,
you haven't been in stop in and of.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Course, uh, the good thing about Jim as you came
up with the bark butter butts bites butter butter. Yes, yeah,
you got it.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Yes, yes, that name is being used synonymously now with
you know any spread that goes on trees, even though
it is trademark. But yeah, bark butter is has more
species a more a higher species count than any other
single bird food out there. We have it in many forms.
We have it in the spreadable form. We also have

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it in a nugget form, we have it in suet form.
It's in every form. But yeah, birth love it.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
And if you want to feed your robins, you can
get the bites and sprindlows around and they love to
eating that.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Yes, oh definitely, yeah, yeah they do. That's one thing
robins will will definitely.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I thought of you the other day I saw you.
I was at a farm store or whatever I saw
for chicken feed. They have those big bags of the
meal worms, and I know you guys sell that too,
and the black soldier flies. I mean that's becoming a
major business. I was just curious, you know, are you
if you put a greenhouse in your backyard to start
raising black soldier flies and their larvae.

Speaker 8 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if your namebors will like it, but.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Okay, probably not a little bit of a smell there.
Talk about Monica Brubaker Wilber's Unlimited. Of course, we want
you to plant and the landscape for the birds as well,
and there's many ways to do that and a lot
of a couple of great I keep forgetting to send
you that book. A great a couple of great books
out there which I will recommend next week because I
forgot to bring with me today that has a great

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But again with the wild Birds Unlimited, they're doing all
the other stuff, all the bird feeders and the waterers
and all of the right bird feeds. And by the way,
Monica brew Baker. As we get into the fall season,
this is when everybody and his brother sells bird seed
or bird feed. I say bird yeah, feed, because you
can't plant the seed and grow birds bird feed. But

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everybody's got it. And I could see a fifty pound
bag for two ninety nine and I see a fifty
pound bag for seventy nine ninety nine.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
What you say, there's a huge difference. Yeah, you know,
there's a lot of fillers and commercial blends, right they
throw the milow is like a red beaby in there,
or it's loaded with the millet that I was taught
talking about that's only really good for certain birds. So
you know, our blends have absolutely no fillers, and it's

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all the seeds your bird is going to eat. There's
no waste in there, so it's not apples to apples.
When you can compare, for sure, you're getting a much
better bang for your buck with us, so you get.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
What you paid for. And of course when you put
it in the feeder and all of a sudden you
hear your birds going cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
That's how you know.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's how you know.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
You know. But you also know is when all your
bird food ends up on the ground, Yeah, wondering, you
know what the heck? Okay, Well that's because they don't.
They're not going to eat it, and it's going to
grow pretty weeds for you. So yeah, yeah, you can
feed what they want and that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
And that's one thing I learned from money. A lot
of the many things I've learned from money. A brew
baker is if all your seeds winding up, bird feeds,
going on the on the down on the ground, it's
because they don't like what's in there. They're tossing it
all out of the way. Uh, so that doesn't show up.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Another misconception is out there right now, folks buying thistle
seed for their thistle feeders. But the thistle seed that's
in there does not sprout and grow. It's not really
thistle seed. Well it is, but not our native exactly.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
Yeah, it's not our native. It comes in there's only
two places that comes from India and Ethiopia, and it's
heat treated, you know when it comes into the United States.
So it's not going to start, you know, the thistle,
the weed, the uh. Yeah, so it is totally different,

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two different species.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
If I if I'm looking at my mix that I'm
buying out there, what do I want to be the
prominent seed that I'm seeing at the top the highest percentage?
Is it the sunflower seed?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (40:54):
Look at the ingredient list, you're right, because they're listing
in in order of quantity of volume. Yeah, some flower
seed definitely, or you know anything that's high fat. I mean,
you know, kenuts, you know, even safflower is a relatively
high fat, high protein seed. Yes, and that's what your

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birds need and that's what they want watch out for.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
If you don't want to do the bird feeder, an
easy way to do this is the suitcakes and you
can hang those anywhere and when they come with such
a different variety and all the different things in the
suitcake that and this is a great time to be
feeding them as you go through the winter. It's a
really easy way to feed the birds and bring them
into your garden.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
It is it's going to slow down, sue, is a
definite slow down, like right now, okay, because of everything
out there in nature. But as soon as we're getting cold,
as we move into November, it's going to start picking up.
And then yes, you know, it can't be beat for
fat content and everybody will you know, eat it. It's

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just a matter of them finding it. And you know,
having an effective feeder for suet too. You can hang
them against the trunk of a tree, not dangling out
on a limb. But if you hang them against the
trunk tree.

Speaker 9 (42:15):
So that they're nice and stable, yes, so that's stable
and not hanging and dangling.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
So yeah, got it. Monica Brew Baker always great information,
always great having you on here. The guys here at
the towers don't like it because all the birds are
hanging out right now try to listen to you, but
they'll all go away here eventually. One last time.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
Your website WBU dot com, slash Westchester, Springboro stop.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
In c Monica Brew Baker, Wildbird's unlimited. Thank you so much.
We'll talk to you later.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
Thank you, come bick.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
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