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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening. It's dry. It's dry
in our state. It's we're at the slight to moderate
drought pretty much throughout the entire state. Make sure you
are watering. As Ron Rothins and I were discussing earlier.
You know, if your water bill went up each month
(00:57):
for the next couple of months, or maybe it's only
this month, we get back the rain in October, one
hundred bucks, that one hundred dollars is a heck of
an investment because you would not be able to replace
any of those plants you're gonna lose, especially those larger
evergreens if you don't water. So please look at it
that way. And I know folks will sometimes say, hey,
I'll send you my water bill and you take care
(01:18):
of that. I'll keep watering well. I wish I could,
But really, one hundred and fifty dollars more once is
well worth the investment, trust me. I mean that's that's
the way I look at it. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com of course facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well read as recipe.
This week week is for Octoberfest. Schnitchel and spotsil Spatzel
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looks pretty darn good and you get a picture of
Eda there serving beer at Octoberfest as well. Our plants
of the week are weeds, perennial weeds. Why would I
pick perennial weeds for our plants of the week this weekend?
Because they are great late bloomers, perfect for the pollinators,
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the butterflies, the bees, all of them love these plants
and thank and we thank them of course for their
late blooming. But they're all their names all include weed. Ironweed,
which you see a lot growing. It says that purple
flower along the roadways. You'll see it pretty tall. Can't
get but there are many selections available for you. Does
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great in perennial gardens as well. Joe pieweed, which they
get confused in identification sometimes kind of look the same
until you see a picture of both on side by
side and you say, oh, no, they are different. But
again Joe pieweed, several selections available for you at your
local garden centers. Sneeze weed and no it doesn't make
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you sneeze. As a matter of fact, the pollen on
sneezeweed is very heavy like golden rod, so it doesn't
blow in the wind. It's only distributed by insects, so
the pollinators love it. Love sneeze weed. Again, use many
selections available for you in your local garden center. And
last but not least, in the weeds for this week,
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what would it be milkweed? And there's so many selections
of milkweed available for you, and of course supports the monarchs,
other butterflies and pollinators as well. Those monarchs are now
moving through the United States, moving their way back down
migrating to the south, and so like in Ohio there
we usually see them for the next couple weeks pretty
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strong as they move through through. And all of these plants,
especially the milkweed, great plants to have on hand in
your garden to help support all of these pollinators and
the monarchs as they continue to work their way through.
To learn more about him, go to our website run
Wilson online dot com. You'll see pictures there, or visit
your locally owned independent garden centers and they will show
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you all of these different perennial weeds that are absolutely
perfect for your pollinator gardens. Eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five to Indiana we Go Sue, good.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Morning, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I had a friend give me a three tiered beautiful
cement bird bath and I absolutely love it, and so
do the birds. But I am having the worst time
of keeping that thing clean.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I just don't know what to you because of the birds.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I no, no, not that. No, it's just a cement.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, it gets so.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And you know, there's nothing really natural that I've looked
up that you can put in there to keep A
cement just turns black after about four or five days,
and I have to get out there with a power
spray and scrubbing yep, two hours a week on that
stupid bird bath. But I really love it, and so
do they anything.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The first thing I would look at is can we
seal the concrete with a sealer? And keep listening, because
I'm going to get Gary Salvent on here in the
next next segment and we'll see what what Gary may suggests.
But a sealer that would actually seal that concrete and
keep it from penetrating into the concrete, that's a possibility
for you and not be toxic to the birds. That's
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one possibility for you. I would suggest you go to
the wild Bird's Unlimited website see what they would suggest
as well for the and for the bird and for
the bird droppings. They actually have a product called poop
off and it's great for cleaning. It's an all natural
product for cleaning bird baths and getting that off of
there does a great job and it doesn't affect the
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water or whatever. You rent it off and do that
type of thing. So I know they have that. Whether
they have a natural bird bath water or a cleaner,
I don't know, but they can help you out. But
I would think that sealing that off with some type
of a sealant like you would the inside of a
clay pot or a concrete pot. Sometimes with the concrete planters,
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they you know, they dry out so fast because it
just sucks it right through the concrete. You can go
in and seal that and helps to hold the moisture inside.
That may be a possibility for you as well. So
stick with us, keep listening to the show. I'll ask
Gary Sullivan coming up in our next segment if he
has some suggestions for a ceiling to use for that
that would be safe for the birds and wildlife. Oh perfect,
(06:17):
all right, su good talking with you. Great question too,
by the way, And also in those bird baths during
the summer, if you're concerned about that, if the water's
not turning over quick enough, or you're concerned about mosquitoes,
remember there are mosquito dunks that can It's be tea,
which will take care of the mosquito larvae in the
bird bath but does not affect the wildlife the birds
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whoever happens to drink the water, you and me, whatever
it may be, But you can drop those in there
and it does take care of the mosquito larvae. But
we'll check with mister Sullivan and see what he might
might suggest for sealing that up. That's a great question.
But the other one is the and I usually tease
Monica Brubaker about the poop off, but it is a
special product developed by Wildbirds on Limits to help remove
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that and it does a really good job, so keep
that in mind. One last thing, and I didn't get
a chance to talk to Monica. We also get a
lot of times where folks have a big picture windows
and the birds come and hit the window all the time.
They sell like it's like an you know, where you
peel it and it sticks on to the window, which
you could peel it back off. That looks like different
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figures that get you put on your windows that refracts
or reflects the light that the birds see, but you don't,
so you don't really even notice them there, and that
can help cut down on those birds hitting those as well.
So keep that one in mind. But go to their
website at wild Birds Unlimited. Great information for you there,
and again we'll check with our home improve an expert,
mister Gary Sullivan after the break and find out what
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he may suggest as well. Talking about yardening, one last
thing before we do take a break, maybe a couple
things real quick. One is your locally independent garden centers
right now. I've been to several of them in the area.
Are fully stocked with cabbage and kale and pansies and
mums and asters and ascers are a great late season
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pollinator plant as well, montac daisies and cool or cold
hardy annuals that tolerate good cold weather that gives you
great color and your containers, your planters, whatever it may be.
I want to toss out there again to you don't
overlook ornamental cabbage and kale and mustard greens like big
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red or giant red. The colder it gets, the more
colorful it gets. When all these other plants are set
and done in the fall season and we're getting cord
toward the holidays, the ornamental cabbage and kale and the
big red the mustard green just gets more colorful and
more colorful and more colorful. And you will, if you've
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never grown them before, you will say to yourself, why
haven't I done this before? Unbelievable. The colors are spectacular,
ornamental cabbage, kale, and the mustard green. And of course
with the mustard green is dinner show because you can
eat that one nice worst radish flavor, fresh or cooked,
or just leave it there, let it do its thing
and give you great fall and early winter color. And
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sometimes if the weather's right, they last right on through
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Gary Sullivan here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (12:06):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the little home improvement from the man the myth,
the legend. He is ladies and gentlemen, the most listen
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
O.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
First, My garden's a little dry right now. Yeah, it's
buzzing right now. It is, Uh, it sure is, And yeah,
needs a little water anyway.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Let's say everything kind of needs a little water.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
It cut dry fast, isn't.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He in a hurry? And of course it reflects right
away with that turf, and of course newly planted plants,
and like we were talking about earlier with evergreens, you
don't notice it till next year. But you better get on.
And if you've got everybody my.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Little gripose going through all my evergreens and anything, you
the man, I'll tell you I try.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
To be all right. So we had a question from
one of our callers, and I'm gonna throw it over
to you. See if you have a possible answer talking
about that concrete bird bath and it just you can't
keep it clean because it's you know it's pooress. The
water gets in there, turns green, turns black. Can Is
there something she could seal that with the concrete on
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the inside to keep that water from penetrating so much
into the concrete itself. Yeah, sure sure, And it wouldn't
be harmful to the birds or the wildlife.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Huh No, you gotta be careful. Make sure you read
that on the label. I mean some would be, some
would not be.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, a couple things.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
One of the things that comes to mind is the
dry lock product, the paint, same stuff that you would
seal foundation walls with to minimize water penetration into the
walls and keeping the water vapor out of the house.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That would work. Is that? Is that? Is that a color?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
You can have it in color, You can have it
and clear?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh good, because you probably want ton't clear.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So about five years ago they came out with a
clear dry lock. They never had a clear dry lock,
and they also had a product. They always talked about walls,
never talked about concrete floors, basement floors especially keep you know,
gases and water from entering and all that. But they
do have it clear now and so you could use that.
(14:39):
Is it concrete or is it like that pottery or
that it's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A concrete She said, it's a three tiered really heavy
concrete bird bath.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
There's also a product and it it would be similar.
It wouldn't really be similar to dry lock. It'd be
probably more similar to ceiling a concrete dry just to
minimize water penetration. Now you got to remember it is
under water. It is a slo scene. It's called ghost shield,
(15:12):
and I know that particular product is safe for birds
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I don't know which one would be best. I would
kind of lead to the dry lock, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, should she do the outside and the inside of
the bowl or just the inside of the bowl.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I don't see any reason why she couldn't do both.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Does it leave achine to it or does it still
have the natural.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
It's got a little bit of achine. It isn't glossy, right,
But i'd say a satin and I would say the
dry lock clear, I mean not all that holds back
ten pounds per square inch of water pressure, So it's
gonna seal that bad boy up right. I think that'd
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probably be the ware. I would lean with it, and
you could do the insider out. I don't think it
would really need to have the outside done right. But
you know another thing, if you wanted it to be
a color, and I've seen people use.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Pool paint m but that would then be a color,
that'd be a color.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
You know, you could do a you know, I don't
know about a black, but you could do a blue
or a white or something which might enhance that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right, that's a possibility, and then that'll stand up to
cleaning it. Probably still need to clean it, you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
You normally have to clean it. Yeah, water gets in
there and gets tight in it, and little oxygen ad
bleach would probably work real well.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Excellent, Thank you. I knew you to have the answer.
I told her to stay.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Tuned, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh yeah, you've always got an answer for everything.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
I love the tips.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So last week you were on the road just checking
out some new and upcoming items for home improvement. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, we we were at the do It Best show
up in India. It was a nice show. It's I think,
uh six hundred thousand square foot big show, big show,
and uh lown and garden, a lot of lawn and
garden there, and of course everything to do with the home,
including lumber and all kinds of products. So yeah, it
(17:22):
was fun to catch up with some people I haven't
seen for a while, and.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Uh, take lots of notes, got lots.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Of notes, had lots of interviews. People can still pick
up that show if they want. It's on via podcast
or the iHeart app. And it was a last Sunday,
so easy to find. But yeah, we had we had
a good time. It was it was, it was good.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I enjoy those you stay all night there? I did
did stay in the railroad cars.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Uh yeah, mall Downtown's really.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's that's something.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
It's something, walk boy, it's not what it was. It's
kind of slowed down.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh has it? Yeah, that's it's been about ten years.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Really bid into it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh it's been about ten years. Because we did do
that for an anniversary where we stayed in the cars.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
As a matter of fact, I thought you recommended that.
I don't remember. I may have. I think you did,
may have. And we did that and then they had
that mall that you walked around.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
People were just telling me that it was much slower
or less crowded than it used to be. But Indy
was hopping man, they had the Colts game next door,
the big convention we were at, So there's plenty going on.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's for sure, good for you. So what are we
going to talk about today in home improvement?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Well, you know, I don't know whether to go fall
or summer, but I think I'm going summer today because
we're back to kind of some warm weather where I'm
at and where you're at. But I think we're just
going to talk a lot about concrete and wrapping up
summer projects, maybe some deck staining. I want to really
talk about the mildew and the streaking on shingles, not
(18:53):
necessarily how to get rid of it, but what's going
on with the shingle?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So why do I see that more and more? It
seemed like every now and then you see a house
that had a couple, you know, the lines coming down,
And today it seems like, I don't know, is that
just me?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It's a no, it's a fungus, and it's an algae
and it's an airborne uh. And a lot of the
newer roofs have a barrier in it for about ten years.
But if you get in the neighborhood with older roofs,
you know, the shingles have less protected and it can
absorb water. And then you got the airborne fungus. You got,
you got the perfect scenario. And so I think it's
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just depends on the neighborhood, quite honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And that's probably what I'm seeing like in my neighborhood.
It's a you know, forty year old homes right, fifty
year old homes so.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Right, So you're probably in your getting ready for that
third roof.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Just want to thanks for reminding me. I appreciate problem.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Yeah, great for al.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's right. That's right. Gary Sullivan always a pleasure of
check out his website, Garysullivan online dot com. Thank you, sir.
Thanks Ron, good talking with you. All Right, we'll take
a quick break. Come back. You know who's coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (22:43):
Bald, good morning. I'll tell you what a day. What
a day. It's just like yesterday and the day before that,
and tomorrow and the day before that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Goodness, Hey are you are you? Are you looking for
an investing uh opportunity? Have you seen? I think I
brought this up to you before because I cannot believe
how many companies now are and they're they're already producing it.
Fertilizer made from bug poop.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yes, I I yeah, we run across that as we
would call frass, you know, I mean I I've even
thought about you know, the call it poop, well, because
there is a good there. We have a better word
for it, fresh And you know, yes frass f R
A S S. I mean it is I I yeah,
(23:42):
because well, it's it's just it's you know, it's just
easier to to say manure. I mean, you know, there
are certain acceptable things. We're going to get in trouble here.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I can do manure account for insects, it could.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, it's all in the same it's all in
the same family, comes from the same place, then come
to the same place.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yes, I think that. You know, one of the main
one of the big suppliers of this frass that you
would rather call it is that black soldier fly, because
they're they're producing the larvae for chicken feed and bird feed,
and while they've got the black soldier flies and they're
collecting up their frass and the processing it and pelletizing
(24:25):
it and using it for for a fertilizer as well
as high feed the source of a uh food for tilapia.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's just I'll tell you, it's a circle of life,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So I figured you'd be investing in things.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well investing if if I had the money. I mean
maybe I think I would. I think it is a
it is a really good idea that that they are
and I'm actually kind of serious.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm serious about it. They're doing it more and more,
I'm and it's a lot of research and you read
about it. It's makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It makes a lot of sense. And as a matter
of fact, it is amazing how we tend to forget
about that end of things, right, I mean when we
have you know, yes, that end of things I did. Well,
you know, you've you've got the beginning and the end
and then you know, usually we talk about, you know,
(25:26):
the in.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Between, but that would larvae then, right, that would.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Be the larvae and and what they're doing and all that.
But you know, when insects are feeding on trees, for example,
what we used to call gypsy moth is now called
spongy moth. I think you've I think I believe you've
been in force. I think we talked about this before.
Where the frass is raining down. You can hear it,
it's dropping down. Yes, well that does, Actually, that does
(25:53):
contribute nutrients to the soil. And so even though the
trees are being heavily defoliated, which you know is going
to cause damage, trees can refoliate and to help support
that refoliation, you know, the frass is in the soil
like a fertilizer. So you have the nutrients. You know,
(26:16):
it's like you have the same destruction. You have the
destruction and then you have rebuilding, both supported by the
insect that's involved in this case. Like I said, spongy moth. Again,
we kind of forget about that. We forget that, yes
they cause damage, but they also support recovery. They are
(26:39):
totally quiet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get to think on
that way. Yeah, to think about it, well, box tree moth,
you know, we talked about it a lot last week
and we had a great webinar turn out over on Wednesday,
Folks from all over the country on it. And again,
frass is a way that we can detect it if
(27:00):
we can't find them in the bushes, which you know,
we should be able to see them. But it is
interesting how box tream off, for example, and I think
I mentioned this last week, they like to start feeding
first inside the box woods. And you know, Ron, I'll
tell you, I've seen boxwoods where you couldn't even tell
they were heavily infested inside, and then you part the
(27:23):
foliage and my goodness, you know they're the catapulsum. It
makes sense that they're inside because that protects them from predation,
and of course it is a very important point and
me entomologists taking pictures and collecting them and so on.
But it does hide them and frast rainy. You know,
you can you can see these pellets, like say, on
(27:45):
the sidewalk beneath boxwoods. I've seen that several times now,
where it would be easy just to walk past the
boxwoods and not even notice it. And of course you
and I how many times we talked about this with
tobacco made a horn worm? Yeah, yeah, it's it is
a very helpful indicator that something is going wrong. But
(28:07):
but like I said, you know, it is also a
source of nutrients, kind of like a recycling uh situation.
But I don't know how we got off on that.
It was a great investment, you.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Know, when these companies are starting to jump into this,
I mean, you can raise those soldier flies and raise
their law. You sell the larvae to the aquaponic people
or the chicken people, and then of course you sell
the poop I mean, sorry, frass to gardeners, you know,
and you might as well have worm. You might as
well have a worm vermic composting in the next greenhouse over,
(28:42):
so you can sell the worm castings or worm poop
if you'd like to do that as well. So I
just think it's interesting that they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And then you can use and then you can use
the water from the tilapia to irrigate the green the
crops in the greenhouse.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like growing in the third greenhouse.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, you know it. It is very in all seriousness,
it is very interesting how how we are learning to
as I said, you know, close these loops, you know,
connect these dots. It's easy to focus on just one
point in the spectrum. And I find a lot of
(29:18):
what's going on in greenhouses, and a lot of what's
going on in urban agriculture or growing food in urban centers,
very often in green houses or polyhouses or hoop houses.
I find, you know, this research to be very very fascinated,
and I know you do too, because we've we've talked
about these different ways that people are learning to take
(29:40):
one thing that would be a waste product or would
be a side product, something that you would even take
of it as a product, and then use it for
another purpose. You know, in the water being used for irrigation.
Now that actually goes back centuries, believe it or not,
where that was a noted thing to do out of ponds,
(30:03):
for example, and then drained back in. So it's not
exactly a new idea, but it is one that we
are rediscovering is having great benefits.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But you do have to be aware of it in
a controlled environment.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
In a controlled environment, And that's just exactly where I
was heading, because one thing you do have to be
aware of in these I want to call them almost
closed loop systems, is that if something invades, if if,
for example, you get a fungal pathogen that can affect
the plants, one that comes to mind is phytothra. That's
(30:41):
if I even say that, I'm sure there's some greenhouse
operators out there that just you know, fell over just
phytotra or pithium. These are what are called water molds.
And I misspoke there just for a second. These aren't fungi.
There are some fungal pathogens, but these are water molds.
They're in a whole different area of taxonomy. They're not
(31:02):
even closely related to fungi. As a matter of fact,
they actually go through a stage where they're modal. They
can swim. But if you get those into a closed
looped irrigation system. Well, that can be disastrous because all
of a sudden, now you have it, you know, in
(31:22):
the crop growing area as well as in the irrigation area. Now,
if we look at some of the connecting the dots here,
there are things that nature can do to help mitigate these.
I mean, we find these all the time. You can
just about go anywhere and isolate water molds, but they
(31:43):
don't typically build to a point where they can become
seriously pathogenic to plants that we would like to grow. Again,
there's something that tacks something, you know, and that's in
this case, but if it's you're in a place like
a greenhouse, everything is closed, the irrigation recycles through. You
have to be aware, all right, we might accidentally get
(32:05):
a pathoge that introduced and that has, like I said,
that has been disastrous. On the other hand, you know,
there are things being done to screen that water through.
You know, we can do the same thing that we
do with drinking water, you know, passing it through an
ultraviolet light filter or not really filter, it's ultra UV light,
(32:26):
you know, which kills everything. But it is a The
technology involved in this just didn't happen overnight, and it
happened based on some very very serious research that some
of it done at Ohio State. I just have to,
you know, a little plug there for this little land
grant university we're involved with. Right.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, by the way, you have to take a break.
But when we come back, I'll find out if Joe
Boggs is going to be at Penn State next weekend.
Holy same what I'm going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm glad said that not the State Pen. I got
a little worried there.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I got to address the beagle that came out a
couple of weeks ago about yellowjackets are active, and also what
about the kissing bug. We'll talk about all those after
the break. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (35:05):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two with a budget Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs, Oh sue extensive b y d O dot
O s U dot E d U. So are you
headed to uh University Park, Pennsylvania next week?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I am not. I'm gonna be on TV. I'm gonna
be on I'm going to be watching TV on TV.
On TV, I'm gonna be on TV. Yeah, you'll see
me running around there. Uh but no, no, Alas, I'm
not headed to the state penns Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, no, it was because it's it's it's the great
insect fair.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well. I tell you, I do plan and I hope
you're going to be there. I do plan to be
at at at a pretty darned interesting thing that is
occurring next week just just west of of Columbus. And
what am I referring to, I don't know. I'm referring
(36:05):
to a large agricultural Yes, yes, yes, farm science.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
It is next week.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It is next week, and I will tell you I'm
going to put a big plug in for it because
it is. It is one of the most interesting things
to see the advances in farming equipment, which you know
is of course that's what we depend on for food,
and seeing these operations, looking at all the different again
research that's been done over the last year, and and
(36:36):
of course you can come and ask questions and so
and so forth, but I will be I'm planning to
be I got to start to sign up for a stint.
But I I'm hoping to be in the uh the OSU,
the Ohio State University Entomology bugmobile. It's going to be
on site. Yes, yes, I mean that's like a high
(36:57):
point of my year. I will take pictures. There may
be a there could be a big old posting. Who
knows that. Yeah, yeah, Farm Science Review. Uh, it's, as
I said, a wonderful, wonderful event and as we're traveling
(37:17):
for quite frankly, I those deals, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I was actually invited. I gave two talks there and
then there was invited back.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Huh well you I mean well, and if you look
at the big ol b y g L, you'll also
see almost on the same grounds is the Wind Conservation
Center and uh and there there are a series of
(37:45):
speakers there as well. So when you arrive, I no,
I'm just doing yeah yeah, well no, no, I've never
been asked back either. I mean we're in the same boat,
but but we have. I mean, carry Jagger is going
to be prepping and planting a pollinator garden, you know,
(38:08):
and this is going to this this is is on Tuesday,
on Tuesday, September sixteenth, The Science of maple syrup. Now,
who doesn't want to see that? That's just I do
plant pulp party the Paw Paul experience with ice cream tasting.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
You just want to taste that too, I do.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I do. As a matter of fact, my Paw Paul
has my landscape Paul Paul has delivered quite a few
paw polls this year. Good and and and and they
taste fabulous.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I can't believe how much your family gave you grief
over planting that papaw.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
True, you know it does.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I still remember that when you first planted it. They
were always giving you grief for planting that thing.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, and this is something that that that listeners need
to know. Pop Paul's first go back to read what
I said. They can be a beautiful landscape plant. Yes
that you know, even though out.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
In the woods.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yes, they reproduced by rhizome. You know underground stands rhizomes.
So they pop up all over the place save a
Paul Paul patch. And so there's a perception in the
landscaping they will do that. That's not true. In the landscaping,
you can have a single nice tree and if you're
close enough to other paw poles, you know out in
(39:27):
the woods, or you know, even if we could get
like neighbors, you know, planting them, because they do need
to have you know, the genetic material coming from another
I need to cross with other pop polls. You can
get a bountiful crop of pawpoles right there and you're landscaping.
That happened this year. But they do establish slowly if
(39:48):
you get a very small pawpol.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Like I did about the foot tall.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep that my family called the stick yep. It was
very small. I really had to be very careful and
it was a stick for unfortunately a couple of years,
two to three years, just sat there, you know, like
you said, with me taking grief. Me even my kids
got in on it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I remember six.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yes, but now now who's laughing?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
That's right? You eat eat your Paul pause without sharing them.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Because I just kind of go out on the you know,
got on the back deck and just sort of you.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Know, up and having a little Paul Paul right away.
We lived in Indiana on the farm. My mom would
shoot those out of the tree with the twenty two
because they were up in the tree.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
My goodness, your mom did.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
That, mother did that, and that taught us a lesson
to stay away from you.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I was gonna say he was pretty good shot. Hey,
you were careful when you were talking about prast Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Absolutely absolutely. By the way, we got about a minute ago.
I just wanted to say thank you for you and
Tom Dehas for posting. I think it was last week
that yellowed jackets are active.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I am nursing along a little swollen left hand. Uh,
and it's itching like crazy. I've tried to our neighbors
and the picture that Tom posted on that big old
posting is exactly like our neighbors. And uh, I did
the phone like I used that phone the spray and
it really does work. You know, they get that phone
(41:24):
in there, they have to crawl through that phoam and
it cuts them. Well, it didn't foam, no surprise, surprise,
there's no phone. And they did wonder and I was
it was the old backing up as fast as I
could back up, and one got me in my left hand,
(41:44):
right between my thumb and my index finger there. So
I didn't hurt too bad, but it's uh, you know,
it's okay, but it didn't foam. But believe it. And
I went back later, I emptied that whole thing in there.
I didn't see very many flying arounds, so I got
a few of them anyway. So yeah, test before you shoot,
Test before you shoot the foam spread.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'm sorry. Yes, we've all been there. We've all been there. Okay,
have a good week and go Bucks, Go Bucks.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Thanks you. I appreciate it, Thank you, go enjoy your
pap pause. Thanks all of our colors, Thanks to our sponsors.
Thanks of course to uh Danny glees and our producer,
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so much for all that you do to make it
all happen. Now do yourself a favorite. We're you gonna
plant those trees, one or two or three or four?
(42:33):
How many are gonna plant? Get this fall? You have
plenty of time. But let's get out there and be
planting trees. Keep planting those pollinator plants, Keep planting those
native plants and those native selections. Pamper your worms, keep
them happy. You pamper your worms, your plants are gonna
be happy as well. Get the kids and dogs involved
with gardening. Keep container gardening, keep planting those fall vegetables,
and by all means, make it the best weekend of
your life. See you.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Not gardening questions.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Ron has the answers at one eight hundred and eighty
two three Talk You're in the Garden with Ron Wilson
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy, talking about yardening. It's dry. It's dry
in our state. It's we're at the slight to moderate
drought pretty much throughout the entire state. Make sure you
are watering. As Ron Rothins and I were discussing earlier.
You know, if your water bill went up each month
(00:57):
for the next couple of months, or maybe it's only
this month, we get back the rain in October, one
hundred bucks, that one hundred dollars is a heck of
an investment because you would not be able to replace
any of those plants you're gonna lose, especially those larger
evergreens if you don't water. So please look at it
that way. And I know folks will sometimes say, hey,
I'll send you my water bill and you take care
(01:18):
of that. I'll keep watering well. I wish I could,
But really, one hundred and fifty dollars more once is
well worth the investment, trust me. I mean that's that's
the way I look at it. Don't forget our website.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com of course facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well read as recipe.
This week week is for Octoberfest. Schnitchel and spotsil Spatzel
(01:42):
looks pretty darn good and you get a picture of
Eda there serving beer at Octoberfest as well. Our plants
of the week are weeds, perennial weeds. Why would I
pick perennial weeds for our plants of the week this weekend?
Because they are great late bloomers, perfect for the pollinators,
(02:04):
the butterflies, the bees, all of them love these plants
and thank and we thank them of course for their
late blooming. But they're all their names all include weed. Ironweed,
which you see a lot growing. It says that purple
flower along the roadways. You'll see it pretty tall. Can't
get but there are many selections available for you. Does
(02:25):
great in perennial gardens as well. Joe pieweed, which they
get confused in identification sometimes kind of look the same
until you see a picture of both on side by
side and you say, oh, no, they are different. But
again Joe pieweed, several selections available for you at your
local garden centers. Sneeze weed and no it doesn't make
(02:47):
you sneeze. As a matter of fact, the pollen on
sneezeweed is very heavy like golden rod, so it doesn't
blow in the wind. It's only distributed by insects, so
the pollinators love it. Love sneeze weed. Again, use many
selections available for you in your local garden center. And
last but not least, in the weeds for this week,
(03:07):
what would it be milkweed? And there's so many selections
of milkweed available for you, and of course supports the monarchs,
other butterflies and pollinators as well. Those monarchs are now
moving through the United States, moving their way back down
migrating to the south, and so like in Ohio there
we usually see them for the next couple weeks pretty
(03:27):
strong as they move through through. And all of these plants,
especially the milkweed, great plants to have on hand in
your garden to help support all of these pollinators and
the monarchs as they continue to work their way through.
To learn more about him, go to our website run
Wilson online dot com. You'll see pictures there, or visit
your locally owned independent garden centers and they will show
(03:48):
you all of these different perennial weeds that are absolutely
perfect for your pollinator gardens. Eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five to Indiana we Go Sue, good.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Morning, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I had a friend give me a three tiered beautiful
cement bird bath and I absolutely love it, and so
do the birds. But I am having the worst time
of keeping that thing clean.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I just don't know what to you because of the birds.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I no, no, not that. No, it's just a cement.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, it gets so.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And you know, there's nothing really natural that I've looked
up that you can put in there to keep A
cement just turns black after about four or five days,
and I have to get out there with a power
spray and scrubbing yep, two hours a week on that
stupid bird bath. But I really love it, and so
do they anything.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The first thing I would look at is can we
seal the concrete with a sealer? And keep listening, because
I'm going to get Gary Salvent on here in the
next next segment and we'll see what what Gary may suggests.
But a sealer that would actually seal that concrete and
keep it from penetrating into the concrete, that's a possibility
for you and not be toxic to the birds. That's
(05:12):
one possibility for you. I would suggest you go to
the wild Bird's Unlimited website see what they would suggest
as well for the and for the bird and for
the bird droppings. They actually have a product called poop
off and it's great for cleaning. It's an all natural
product for cleaning bird baths and getting that off of
there does a great job and it doesn't affect the
(05:33):
water or whatever. You rent it off and do that
type of thing. So I know they have that. Whether
they have a natural bird bath water or a cleaner,
I don't know, but they can help you out. But
I would think that sealing that off with some type
of a sealant like you would the inside of a
clay pot or a concrete pot. Sometimes with the concrete planters,
(05:53):
they you know, they dry out so fast because it
just sucks it right through the concrete. You can go
in and seal that and helps to hold the moisture inside.
That may be a possibility for you as well. So
stick with us, keep listening to the show. I'll ask
Gary Sullivan coming up in our next segment if he
has some suggestions for a ceiling to use for that
that would be safe for the birds and wildlife. Oh perfect,
(06:17):
all right, su good talking with you. Great question too,
by the way, And also in those bird baths during
the summer, if you're concerned about that, if the water's
not turning over quick enough, or you're concerned about mosquitoes,
remember there are mosquito dunks that can It's be tea,
which will take care of the mosquito larvae in the
bird bath but does not affect the wildlife the birds
(06:39):
whoever happens to drink the water, you and me, whatever
it may be, But you can drop those in there
and it does take care of the mosquito larvae. But
we'll check with mister Sullivan and see what he might
might suggest for sealing that up. That's a great question.
But the other one is the and I usually tease
Monica Brubaker about the poop off, but it is a
special product developed by Wildbirds on Limits to help remove
(07:01):
that and it does a really good job, so keep
that in mind. One last thing, and I didn't get
a chance to talk to Monica. We also get a
lot of times where folks have a big picture windows
and the birds come and hit the window all the time.
They sell like it's like an you know, where you
peel it and it sticks on to the window, which
you could peel it back off. That looks like different
(07:24):
figures that get you put on your windows that refracts
or reflects the light that the birds see, but you don't,
so you don't really even notice them there, and that
can help cut down on those birds hitting those as well.
So keep that one in mind. But go to their
website at wild Birds Unlimited. Great information for you there,
and again we'll check with our home improve an expert,
mister Gary Sullivan after the break and find out what
(07:45):
he may suggest as well. Talking about yardening, one last
thing before we do take a break, maybe a couple
things real quick. One is your locally independent garden centers
right now. I've been to several of them in the area.
Are fully stocked with cabbage and kale and pansies and
mums and asters and ascers are a great late season
(08:06):
pollinator plant as well, montac daisies and cool or cold
hardy annuals that tolerate good cold weather that gives you
great color and your containers, your planters, whatever it may be.
I want to toss out there again to you don't
overlook ornamental cabbage and kale and mustard greens like big
(08:26):
red or giant red. The colder it gets, the more
colorful it gets. When all these other plants are set
and done in the fall season and we're getting cord
toward the holidays, the ornamental cabbage and kale and the
big red the mustard green just gets more colorful and
more colorful and more colorful. And you will, if you've
(08:46):
never grown them before, you will say to yourself, why
haven't I done this before? Unbelievable. The colors are spectacular,
ornamental cabbage, kale, and the mustard green. And of course
with the mustard green is dinner show because you can
eat that one nice worst radish flavor, fresh or cooked,
or just leave it there, let it do its thing
and give you great fall and early winter color. And
(09:09):
sometimes if the weather's right, they last right on through
the winter season. Quick break, we come back a little
home improvement from the man, the myth, the legend, mister
Gary Sullivan here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
O.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
First, My garden's a little dry right now. Yeah, it's
buzzing right now. It is, Uh, it sure is, And yeah,
needs a little water anyway.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Let's say everything kind of needs a little water.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
It cut dry fast, isn't.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He in a hurry? And of course it reflects right
away with that turf, and of course newly planted plants,
and like we were talking about earlier with evergreens, you
don't notice it till next year. But you better get on.
And if you've got everybody my.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Little gripose going through all my evergreens and anything, you
the man, I'll tell you I try.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
To be all right. So we had a question from
one of our callers, and I'm gonna throw it over
to you. See if you have a possible answer talking
about that concrete bird bath and it just you can't
keep it clean because it's you know it's pooress. The
water gets in there, turns green, turns black. Can Is
there something she could seal that with the concrete on
(13:36):
the inside to keep that water from penetrating so much
into the concrete itself. Yeah, sure sure, And it wouldn't
be harmful to the birds or the wildlife.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Huh No, you gotta be careful. Make sure you read
that on the label. I mean some would be, some
would not be.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, a couple things.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
One of the things that comes to mind is the
dry lock product, the paint, same stuff that you would
seal foundation walls with to minimize water penetration into the
walls and keeping the water vapor out of the house.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That would work. Is that? Is that? Is that a color?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
You can have it in color, You can have it
and clear?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh good, because you probably want ton't clear.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So about five years ago they came out with a
clear dry lock. They never had a clear dry lock,
and they also had a product. They always talked about walls,
never talked about concrete floors, basement floors especially keep you know,
gases and water from entering and all that. But they
do have it clear now and so you could use that.
(14:39):
Is it concrete or is it like that pottery or
that it's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A concrete She said, it's a three tiered really heavy
concrete bird bath.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
There's also a product and it it would be similar.
It wouldn't really be similar to dry lock. It'd be
probably more similar to ceiling a concrete dry just to
minimize water penetration. Now you got to remember it is
under water. It is a slo scene. It's called ghost shield,
(15:12):
and I know that particular product is safe for birds
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I don't know which one would be best. I would
kind of lead to the dry lock, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, should she do the outside and the inside of
the bowl or just the inside of the bowl.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I don't see any reason why she couldn't do both.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Does it leave achine to it or does it still
have the natural.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
It's got a little bit of achine. It isn't glossy, right,
But i'd say a satin and I would say the
dry lock clear, I mean not all that holds back
ten pounds per square inch of water pressure, So it's
gonna seal that bad boy up right. I think that'd
(16:02):
probably be the ware. I would lean with it, and
you could do the insider out. I don't think it
would really need to have the outside done right. But
you know another thing, if you wanted it to be
a color, and I've seen people use.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Pool paint m but that would then be a color,
that'd be a color.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
You know, you could do a you know, I don't
know about a black, but you could do a blue
or a white or something which might enhance that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right, that's a possibility, and then that'll stand up to
cleaning it. Probably still need to clean it, you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
You normally have to clean it. Yeah, water gets in
there and gets tight in it, and little oxygen ad
bleach would probably work real well.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Excellent, Thank you. I knew you to have the answer.
I told her to stay.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Tuned, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh yeah, you've always got an answer for everything.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
I love the tips.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So last week you were on the road just checking
out some new and upcoming items for home improvement. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, we we were at the do It Best show
up in India. It was a nice show. It's I think,
uh six hundred thousand square foot big show, big show,
and uh lown and garden, a lot of lawn and
garden there, and of course everything to do with the home,
including lumber and all kinds of products. So yeah, it
(17:22):
was fun to catch up with some people I haven't
seen for a while, and.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Uh, take lots of notes, got lots.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Of notes, had lots of interviews. People can still pick
up that show if they want. It's on via podcast
or the iHeart app. And it was a last Sunday,
so easy to find. But yeah, we had we had
a good time. It was it was, it was good.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I enjoy those you stay all night there? I did
did stay in the railroad cars.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Uh yeah, mall Downtown's really.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's that's something.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
It's something, walk boy, it's not what it was. It's
kind of slowed down.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh has it? Yeah, that's it's been about ten years.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Really bid into it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh it's been about ten years. Because we did do
that for an anniversary where we stayed in the cars.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
As a matter of fact, I thought you recommended that.
I don't remember. I may have. I think you did,
may have. And we did that and then they had
that mall that you walked around.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
People were just telling me that it was much slower
or less crowded than it used to be. But Indy
was hopping man, they had the Colts game next door,
the big convention we were at, So there's plenty going on.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's for sure, good for you. So what are we
going to talk about today in home improvement?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Well, you know, I don't know whether to go fall
or summer, but I think I'm going summer today because
we're back to kind of some warm weather where I'm
at and where you're at. But I think we're just
going to talk a lot about concrete and wrapping up
summer projects, maybe some deck staining. I want to really
talk about the mildew and the streaking on shingles, not
(18:53):
necessarily how to get rid of it, but what's going
on with the shingle?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So why do I see that more and more? It
seemed like every now and then you see a house
that had a couple, you know, the lines coming down,
And today it seems like, I don't know, is that
just me?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It's a no, it's a fungus, and it's an algae
and it's an airborne uh. And a lot of the
newer roofs have a barrier in it for about ten years.
But if you get in the neighborhood with older roofs,
you know, the shingles have less protected and it can
absorb water. And then you got the airborne fungus. You got,
you got the perfect scenario. And so I think it's
(19:28):
just depends on the neighborhood, quite honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And that's probably what I'm seeing like in my neighborhood.
It's a you know, forty year old homes right, fifty
year old homes so.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Right, So you're probably in your getting ready for that
third roof.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Just want to thanks for reminding me. I appreciate problem.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Yeah, great for al.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's right. That's right. Gary Sullivan always a pleasure of
check out his website, Garysullivan online dot com. Thank you, sir.
Thanks Ron, good talking with you. All Right, we'll take
a quick break. Come back. You know who's coming up next.
Brace yourself, put on your seat belts, strap yourself in.
It's time for the buggy Joe Boggs Report. Here in
the Garden with Ron Wilson, help so the do.
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Speaker 1 (22:16):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. It
is time for yes, ladies and gentlemen, Strap yourselves in.
Put your helmets on. Here we go. Time for the
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dot O s U dot eed you ladies and gentlemen,
mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Bald, good morning. I'll tell you what a day. What
a day. It's just like yesterday and the day before that,
and tomorrow and the day before that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Goodness, Hey are you are you? Are you looking for
an investing uh opportunity? Have you seen? I think I
brought this up to you before because I cannot believe
how many companies now are and they're they're already producing it.
Fertilizer made from bug poop.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yes, I I yeah, we run across that as we
would call frass, you know, I mean I I've even
thought about you know, the call it poop, well, because
there is a good there. We have a better word
for it, fresh And you know, yes frass f R
A S S. I mean it is I I yeah,
(23:42):
because well, it's it's just it's you know, it's just
easier to to say manure. I mean, you know, there
are certain acceptable things. We're going to get in trouble here.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I can do manure account for insects, it could.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, it's all in the same it's all in
the same family, comes from the same place, then come
to the same place.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yes, I think that. You know, one of the main
one of the big suppliers of this frass that you
would rather call it is that black soldier fly, because
they're they're producing the larvae for chicken feed and bird feed,
and while they've got the black soldier flies and they're
collecting up their frass and the processing it and pelletizing
(24:25):
it and using it for for a fertilizer as well
as high feed the source of a uh food for tilapia.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's just I'll tell you, it's a circle of life,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So I figured you'd be investing in things.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well investing if if I had the money. I mean
maybe I think I would. I think it is a
it is a really good idea that that they are
and I'm actually kind of serious.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm serious about it. They're doing it more and more,
I'm and it's a lot of research and you read
about it. It's makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It makes a lot of sense. And as a matter
of fact, it is amazing how we tend to forget
about that end of things, right, I mean when we
have you know, yes, that end of things I did. Well,
you know, you've you've got the beginning and the end
and then you know, usually we talk about, you know,
(25:26):
the in.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Between, but that would larvae then, right, that would.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Be the larvae and and what they're doing and all that.
But you know, when insects are feeding on trees, for example,
what we used to call gypsy moth is now called
spongy moth. I think you've I think I believe you've
been in force. I think we talked about this before.
Where the frass is raining down. You can hear it,
it's dropping down. Yes, well that does, Actually, that does
(25:53):
contribute nutrients to the soil. And so even though the
trees are being heavily defoliated, which you know is going
to cause damage, trees can refoliate and to help support
that refoliation, you know, the frass is in the soil
like a fertilizer. So you have the nutrients. You know,
(26:16):
it's like you have the same destruction. You have the
destruction and then you have rebuilding, both supported by the
insect that's involved in this case. Like I said, spongy moth. Again,
we kind of forget about that. We forget that, yes
they cause damage, but they also support recovery. They are
(26:39):
totally quiet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get to think on
that way. Yeah, to think about it, well, box tree moth,
you know, we talked about it a lot last week
and we had a great webinar turn out over on Wednesday,
Folks from all over the country on it. And again,
frass is a way that we can detect it if
(27:00):
we can't find them in the bushes, which you know,
we should be able to see them. But it is
interesting how box tream off, for example, and I think
I mentioned this last week, they like to start feeding
first inside the box woods. And you know, Ron, I'll
tell you, I've seen boxwoods where you couldn't even tell
they were heavily infested inside, and then you part the
(27:23):
foliage and my goodness, you know they're the catapulsum. It
makes sense that they're inside because that protects them from predation,
and of course it is a very important point and
me entomologists taking pictures and collecting them and so on.
But it does hide them and frast rainy. You know,
you can you can see these pellets, like say, on
(27:45):
the sidewalk beneath boxwoods. I've seen that several times now,
where it would be easy just to walk past the
boxwoods and not even notice it. And of course you
and I how many times we talked about this with
tobacco made a horn worm? Yeah, yeah, it's it is
a very helpful indicator that something is going wrong. But
(28:07):
but like I said, you know, it is also a
source of nutrients, kind of like a recycling uh situation.
But I don't know how we got off on that.
It was a great investment, you.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Know, when these companies are starting to jump into this,
I mean, you can raise those soldier flies and raise
their law. You sell the larvae to the aquaponic people
or the chicken people, and then of course you sell
the poop I mean, sorry, frass to gardeners, you know,
and you might as well have worm. You might as
well have a worm vermic composting in the next greenhouse over,
(28:42):
so you can sell the worm castings or worm poop
if you'd like to do that as well. So I
just think it's interesting that they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And then you can use and then you can use
the water from the tilapia to irrigate the green the
crops in the greenhouse.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like growing in the third greenhouse.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, you know it. It is very in all seriousness,
it is very interesting how how we are learning to
as I said, you know, close these loops, you know,
connect these dots. It's easy to focus on just one
point in the spectrum. And I find a lot of
(29:18):
what's going on in greenhouses, and a lot of what's
going on in urban agriculture or growing food in urban centers,
very often in green houses or polyhouses or hoop houses.
I find, you know, this research to be very very fascinated,
and I know you do too, because we've we've talked
about these different ways that people are learning to take
(29:40):
one thing that would be a waste product or would
be a side product, something that you would even take
of it as a product, and then use it for
another purpose. You know, in the water being used for irrigation.
Now that actually goes back centuries, believe it or not,
where that was a noted thing to do out of ponds,
(30:03):
for example, and then drained back in. So it's not
exactly a new idea, but it is one that we
are rediscovering is having great benefits.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But you do have to be aware of it in
a controlled environment.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
In a controlled environment, And that's just exactly where I
was heading, because one thing you do have to be
aware of in these I want to call them almost
closed loop systems, is that if something invades, if if,
for example, you get a fungal pathogen that can affect
the plants, one that comes to mind is phytothra. That's
(30:41):
if I even say that, I'm sure there's some greenhouse
operators out there that just you know, fell over just
phytotra or pithium. These are what are called water molds.
And I misspoke there just for a second. These aren't fungi.
There are some fungal pathogens, but these are water molds.
They're in a whole different area of taxonomy. They're not
(31:02):
even closely related to fungi. As a matter of fact,
they actually go through a stage where they're modal. They
can swim. But if you get those into a closed
looped irrigation system. Well, that can be disastrous because all
of a sudden, now you have it, you know, in
(31:22):
the crop growing area as well as in the irrigation area. Now,
if we look at some of the connecting the dots here,
there are things that nature can do to help mitigate these.
I mean, we find these all the time. You can
just about go anywhere and isolate water molds, but they
(31:43):
don't typically build to a point where they can become
seriously pathogenic to plants that we would like to grow. Again,
there's something that tacks something, you know, and that's in
this case, but if it's you're in a place like
a greenhouse, everything is closed, the irrigation recycles through. You
have to be aware, all right, we might accidentally get
(32:05):
a pathoge that introduced and that has, like I said,
that has been disastrous. On the other hand, you know,
there are things being done to screen that water through.
You know, we can do the same thing that we
do with drinking water, you know, passing it through an
ultraviolet light filter or not really filter, it's ultra UV light,
(32:26):
you know, which kills everything. But it is a The
technology involved in this just didn't happen overnight, and it
happened based on some very very serious research that some
of it done at Ohio State. I just have to,
you know, a little plug there for this little land
grant university we're involved with. Right.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, by the way, you have to take a break.
But when we come back, I'll find out if Joe
Boggs is going to be at Penn State next weekend.
Holy same what I'm going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm glad said that not the State Pen. I got
a little worried there.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I got to address the beagle that came out a
couple of weeks ago about yellowjackets are active, and also what
about the kissing bug. We'll talk about all those after
the break. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (35:05):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two with a budget Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs, Oh sue extensive b y d O dot
O s U dot E d U. So are you
headed to uh University Park, Pennsylvania next week?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I am not. I'm gonna be on TV. I'm gonna
be on I'm going to be watching TV on TV.
On TV, I'm gonna be on TV. Yeah, you'll see
me running around there. Uh but no, no, Alas, I'm
not headed to the state penns Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, no, it was because it's it's it's the great
insect fair.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well. I tell you, I do plan and I hope
you're going to be there. I do plan to be
at at at a pretty darned interesting thing that is
occurring next week just just west of of Columbus. And
what am I referring to, I don't know. I'm referring
(36:05):
to a large agricultural Yes, yes, yes, farm science.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
It is next week.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It is next week, and I will tell you I'm
going to put a big plug in for it because
it is. It is one of the most interesting things
to see the advances in farming equipment, which you know
is of course that's what we depend on for food,
and seeing these operations, looking at all the different again
research that's been done over the last year, and and
(36:36):
of course you can come and ask questions and so
and so forth, but I will be I'm planning to
be I got to start to sign up for a stint.
But I I'm hoping to be in the uh the OSU,
the Ohio State University Entomology bugmobile. It's going to be
on site. Yes, yes, I mean that's like a high
(36:57):
point of my year. I will take pictures. There may
be a there could be a big old posting. Who
knows that. Yeah, yeah, Farm Science Review. Uh, it's, as
I said, a wonderful, wonderful event and as we're traveling
(37:17):
for quite frankly, I those deals, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I was actually invited. I gave two talks there and
then there was invited back.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Huh well you I mean well, and if you look
at the big ol b y g L, you'll also
see almost on the same grounds is the Wind Conservation
Center and uh and there there are a series of
(37:45):
speakers there as well. So when you arrive, I no,
I'm just doing yeah yeah, well no, no, I've never
been asked back either. I mean we're in the same boat,
but but we have. I mean, carry Jagger is going
to be prepping and planting a pollinator garden, you know,
(38:08):
and this is going to this this is is on Tuesday,
on Tuesday, September sixteenth, The Science of maple syrup. Now,
who doesn't want to see that? That's just I do
plant pulp party the Paw Paul experience with ice cream tasting.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
You just want to taste that too, I do.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I do. As a matter of fact, my Paw Paul
has my landscape Paul Paul has delivered quite a few
paw polls this year. Good and and and and they
taste fabulous.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I can't believe how much your family gave you grief
over planting that papaw.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
True, you know it does.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I still remember that when you first planted it. They
were always giving you grief for planting that thing.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, and this is something that that that listeners need
to know. Pop Paul's first go back to read what
I said. They can be a beautiful landscape plant. Yes
that you know, even though out.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
In the woods.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yes, they reproduced by rhizome. You know underground stands rhizomes.
So they pop up all over the place save a
Paul Paul patch. And so there's a perception in the
landscaping they will do that. That's not true. In the landscaping,
you can have a single nice tree and if you're
close enough to other paw poles, you know out in
(39:27):
the woods, or you know, even if we could get
like neighbors, you know, planting them, because they do need
to have you know, the genetic material coming from another
I need to cross with other pop polls. You can
get a bountiful crop of pawpoles right there and you're landscaping.
That happened this year. But they do establish slowly if
(39:48):
you get a very small pawpol.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Like I did about the foot tall.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep that my family called the stick yep. It was
very small. I really had to be very careful and
it was a stick for unfortunately a couple of years,
two to three years, just sat there, you know, like
you said, with me taking grief. Me even my kids
got in on it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I remember six.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yes, but now now who's laughing?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
That's right? You eat eat your Paul pause without sharing them.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Because I just kind of go out on the you know,
got on the back deck and just sort of you.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Know, up and having a little Paul Paul right away.
We lived in Indiana on the farm. My mom would
shoot those out of the tree with the twenty two
because they were up in the tree.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
My goodness, your mom did.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
That, mother did that, and that taught us a lesson
to stay away from you.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I was gonna say he was pretty good shot. Hey,
you were careful when you were talking about prast Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Absolutely absolutely. By the way, we got about a minute ago.
I just wanted to say thank you for you and
Tom Dehas for posting. I think it was last week
that yellowed jackets are active.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I am nursing along a little swollen left hand. Uh,
and it's itching like crazy. I've tried to our neighbors
and the picture that Tom posted on that big old
posting is exactly like our neighbors. And uh, I did
the phone like I used that phone the spray and
it really does work. You know, they get that phone
(41:24):
in there, they have to crawl through that phoam and
it cuts them. Well, it didn't foam, no surprise, surprise,
there's no phone. And they did wonder and I was
it was the old backing up as fast as I
could back up, and one got me in my left hand,
(41:44):
right between my thumb and my index finger there. So
I didn't hurt too bad, but it's uh, you know,
it's okay, but it didn't foam. But believe it. And
I went back later, I emptied that whole thing in there.
I didn't see very many flying arounds, so I got
a few of them anyway. So yeah, test before you shoot,
Test before you shoot the foam spread.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'm sorry. Yes, we've all been there. We've all been there. Okay,
have a good week and go Bucks, Go Bucks.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Thanks you. I appreciate it, Thank you, go enjoy your
pap pause. Thanks all of our colors, Thanks to our sponsors.
Thanks of course to uh Danny glees and our producer,
because as you all well know, without Danny Gleese and
none of this stuff would happen. So Danny, thank you
so much for all that you do to make it
all happen. Now do yourself a favorite. We're you gonna
plant those trees, one or two or three or four?
(42:33):
How many are gonna plant? Get this fall? You have
plenty of time. But let's get out there and be
planting trees. Keep planting those pollinator plants, Keep planting those
native plants and those native selections. Pamper your worms, keep
them happy. You pamper your worms, your plants are gonna
be happy as well. Get the kids and dogs involved
with gardening. Keep container gardening, keep planting those fall vegetables,
and by all means, make it the best weekend of
your life. See you.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Not gardening questions.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
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