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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five, Good morning,
good morning. Sorry what you're doing there? Ddy nothing eating
a twinkie? Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy, talking about yarding as we're working our way
through September. I'll tell he is back, all right, I'll
take care of it. You go ahead and take a bite.
(00:57):
I am going to take a bite. It is pumpkin
spice twinkie time. It's time for a cup of Joe
actually and twinkie time as well. Executive producer. Rather than
going on is long landscape, lots going on our website,
run Wilson Online dot com, Facebook page and garden with
Ron Wilting. Mhmm, everywhere. It's pumpkin spice twinkie time. They
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just came out. But I'm not a parlier this week. Yeah,
I'm not a pumpkin spice things. Actually dipping it in
this coffee right now. But this is fairly tasty. What
did you think? I thought it was a pretty dummy too.
See I didn't have any coffee to day like pumpkin spice.
That's why that's why I had one and a half. Yeah,
so that's awesome, pretty tasty mm hmm. Do you notice?
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Do you notice anything about me? What I'm nice? In tan?
When I left here two weeks ago, I was I
was a what's the deal? Why does a ghost? Now? Well,
Florida will do that for you, Florida, Florida will do
that for you. A whole whole week in Florida. And Uh,
(02:05):
I would like to say, I've missed you, but I didn't.
Hope you didn't even think about me. I did not.
I did not think about anything other than but did
you enjoy them? When what was in my glass? Flora
and fauna? Sure? Did you enjoy the palm trees and
all of that? The only, the only, the only palm
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tree that I enjoyed was the one I laid next
to with my drink and the little umbrella in it.
Did you make it to the beach or did you did?
We did? Uh? We had the beach one day Wednesday,
SpaceX was supposed to go out which way as you
go east or west? We were in Orlando. We went
went east. Okay, so we were on the coast, went
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over to Cocoa Beach. Even though it's in an hour
on the map, it didn't feel like an hour. It
was a nice little ride there, and but we was
supposed to be launched that morning, so we drove all
the way out there. And the resort that we were
in in Orlando had a sister resort in Cocoa Beach,
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and if you had wristbands, you can just walk right
in and you didn't have to let you use their facilities. Well,
the Cocoa Beach facility had you know, a pool and everything,
but had a bar by the pool. Mmm, so that
was fun. So you're sitting in ordering a cocktail, waiting
for the for the rocket to go up, and then
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five minutes before it was supposed to launch, they scrubbed it.
So they think it ended up maybe a couple of
days later, but it was like five o'clock in the morning.
So that was like the worst thing. That was the
worst thing that happened for you. That was the worst
thing that happened on the trip was the rocket shift
thing got scrubbed. You. I went on a vacation, all right.
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I've told you this many times. When my uh my
body knows when I have to work and when I'm
on vacation, I don't know how you do that. I'm
just awesome. All week You get up at two o'clock
in the morning. I'm here at two o'clock in the morning.
Get up at one. So you get and any and
when you're off, you get up at whatever. I come to.
I don't know how you do that. I know it's
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come to and not wake up. What it's not when
I wake up on the weekends, it's when I come
to funny man. That's me, that's you, mister comedian. Well,
welcome back. I'm glad to be back, glad to be back.
I did miss it. I didn't at all seriousness about
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Thursday afternoon Friday. I was ready to come home. Not
because of you know, the company or what was going on.
I just missed. Yeah me, I missed the dogs, my kids,
and miss mom and daddy. It's scary me. I missed
uh Daniel, I missed a big dog. Yeah. I missed
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Rita and Joe Boggs roth House. Ye missed all these people.
Doctor z doctor that's it. Yeah, I get I get it.
That's fine, just fine. Yes, So anything happened while I
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was gone, you just did it rain here I was
thinking the last time I do remember you going on vacation,
many many, many many years ago, and you came back
very excited from that vacation. Where's it to Louisiana? That
was yeah, did the knowlege? He came back with all
kinds of pictures and we came back with a companion,
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do I we came back with a companion? Wow? Yeah,
there you go. Well, I mean it was me and
my first wife and we came back and I guess
Grace had a free vacation too. You go, I love it.
And you were all fired of about that one. Yeah.
So anyway, anyway, so no, it rained every day in
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Florida for about an hour and a nice thunderstorm every day.
The I mean thunderstorms in Cincinnati are not like thunderstorms
in Florida. So you enjoyed those. It was great. And
it was like and it came down monsoon style, I
mean every day it was like and that hour and
a half two hours in it rain. It was like
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the cloud unzipped, you know, four inches five inches of
rain just just comes down and then stops. It's a
little cooler and the drops drops about twenty degrees. You
go back outside, go back in the hot tub. So well,
it sounds like you enjoyed yourself. Great, good for you.
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Wonder if I Heart Media is anything in Orlando. They
don't know. Cocoa Beach, no anywhere, and nothing in Florida.
Nothing in Florida. Actually, we were on a station. Where
were we on at one time? Saint Pete Melbourne? Where
Melbourne Melbourne? That was a long time ago. Yeah, but
we would get like Cincinnati snowbirds. Yeah yeah, yeah, big
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during the winter, big during the February and January. Yeah,
anybody on the show today because I don't think people
want to keep hearing about my vacation. Melinda Myers cool,
haven't had Melinda on in a long time. Yeah, we'll
talk to gardening expert. Melinda Myers travels around the country
talking about spreading the good word of gardening. Always like
fun to have her on the show. Of course, you've
got Buggy Joe Box, You've got Gary Sullivan, got you
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got Danny Gleeson. So you know the cast is here,
We're ready to go. And the website, which is Ron
Wilson online dot com, along with the Facebook page and
the Garden with Ron Wilson has Buggy Joe. I had
to make up for last week since I kind of
put off a little bit. Lots of Buggy Joe updates,
but Dan did post, Yeah, lots of Buggy Joe updates.
(08:05):
Uh so Buggy Jo's going to talk about ants, aphids,
all kinds of good studaughter whatever. Yeah, I didn't want
to I didn't want to mispronounce it. So so it's
called daughter daughter, Okay, and blitzen dodgers in your daughter,
Oh spelled differently, I gotcha daughter not as in the reindeer.
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No no. And there's a thing about her about cherry
trees too, Yes, so check those out. Yes, if if you,
if you miss Buggy Joe's website updates last week, Yes,
we're back with a vengeance. Yes. Rita's recipe, of course,
always good. The recipe of the week is to match
your pumpkin spice twinkies. She's got her own pumpkin spice
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latte recipe is definitely not like the the green store
that don't have the very famous green store that chary
five dollars for a cup of coffee pumpkin spice. Make
your own your own at home A little recipe. There
you go. And the plan of the week this week, yes,
is any but goodie. Yes, a good old toad lily,
(09:12):
toad lily, totally don't tell us about toadally toad lily.
You tell us about toad lily. Well, I would, but
people want to hear from Ron Wilson. They didn't want
to hear from want to talk about toad lily lady.
Later try citrus. There you go, pretty dare good? Try
better at that all the time, you know, whatever it
works toad flower or the toad lily. Yeah, and very
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don't you like? And it's a beautiful flowers like well,
I think I tried them a long time ago, and
I don't think I think they got to be like
the size of like, I don't know, they barely grew.
But I probably screwed it up. Shade morning sun. I
probably did something wrong. I'm sure you did. Yeah, I'm not.
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I'm not arguing. Very unusual plant, but good shade plant
and a great flower plant by the sidewalk so you
can see it or the edge of the bed and
starts to flower late in the summer and through the fall.
So very cool, very cool, and it is an orchid
like flower. Check it out on our website right list
on wind dot com. Totally totally there you go. So yep,
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I'm gonna it's time for me to almost head on it.
Oh by the way, yes, wasn't I kind of write
about the first football game. I told you it would
be a tough first half and then all of a
sudden they blow him out in the second half. Did
you say that? That's what I Let's go back to
the audio tape, get a replay. Yep, I know I
was right there. You go. Then they end up blowing
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them out. They did. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't not pretty.
First half was not pretty. It wasn't Yeah, it was
it was very yeah. Yeah, and last week was a
little different story a little bit. They blew them out. Now. Someone,
Now we got like two minutes here, quickie to minute,
two minute little thing here. I've never done this before,
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and not that uh, I've never done this before. Someone
talked to me, talked me into it, and said, hey,
you got to try this. I did my first I
signed up for Fandel I did my first time. You
get like fan duel. Yeah, the sports betting thing, okay,
just just playing around, you know. I think I bet
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ten bucks and I had no idea what I was doing,
so I just bet whatever they suggested, and it was
four players and all of them if if all of
them scored a touchdown, then I think the payout was
like on ten bucks, it was like three hundred bucks,
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and but you had to get all four. So I'm
I just put different players from different players. It was
it was pro so it was it was different. So
it was Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Ceedee Lamb, and Cooper
Cup thinking, Wow, I'm gonna that's a pretty pretty good
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chance that that you could pay off. So Justin Jefferson
scored a touchdown, Tyreek Hill scored a touchdown, and Cooper
Cup scored a touchdown. Guess who didn't score a touchdown,
Ceedee Lamb. So the guy who I thought was going
to score, the Dallas Cowboy guy playing against this that
(12:34):
the playing the other team up north, the brown team
up north, and uh and he didn't score. And I'm
watching the game and it was like the second half
and they were blowing them out, and I'm like, can't
we just pass it one more time? It's just a
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just a so my first ever A just one three
hundred bucks. Cool, Now you're hooked. No, not really, I
think I did it the one time, and it was
just something just the quarter slots. That's about all I
can afford. Well, it's actually it's uh in in front
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of actually in Florida that the it's they got a
monopoly down there. There's only a hard rock. You can't
do anything else, Like, there's no like FanDuel you have,
you can't do that in Florida. It's uh, it's hard
rock has their own app and their own castinos down there.
They don't have anything else you can't like, there's no balles,
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there's no argacy, there's no Belterra. They do have dog tracks,
but that's different ESPN, ABC. Yeah, so there you go.
All right, there's my there's my my, my, uh my
uninteresting story. Better luck next time, whatever, and welcome back.
Just uh, I'll just go to october Fest and play
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the little bingo things that they got, Yeah, a little
safer yeah and good company. Yeah exactly. Joe Stuck, our
executive producer. If you like what we see on our
website at royn Wilson online dot com Facebook page in
the Garden with Ron Wilson, Joe had everything to do
with it, uh, because he's back now. If you see
something on there, you don't like question, not sure about.
Don't blame Joe not my fault. It's doctor Z's in Washington,
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d C. Garden eighty three ride around his vespa. That
was around the back bow bow bow Still no side car,
sidecar tick talk doctor Z. Right, what can I say?
We've tried, we keep trying. Joegan. Maybe I need to
send her a message instead of instead of him. Maybe
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that total free number would be eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Talking about yardening, I don't
know about your area, and Joe and I didn't hit
on this too much, trying to get caught up with
where he was, and of course he had a great vacation,
and we're glad for Joe that he was able to
actually get away and do do just some general relaxing.
(18:27):
He just got away by and just done, you know,
put it all beside and just we're glad for Joe
and good to have him back as well. But we
didn't talk about this, and we're going to get into
this a little more depth as we get into our show.
But in our area, and if you're not experiencing this
wherever you're listening to our show right now, I apologize.
But it's very important that we that we talk about this,
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and you know, because it's just so important. We are
in a serious, serious, serious drought and most of Ohio,
you're looking Indiana, Kentucky, a little bit of West Virginia, Pennsylvania,
you look around our area and they're experiencing that as well.
And as a matter of fact, in our area right now,
(19:15):
we are experiencing a drought situation. It's so dry. We
haven't seen this since I think it's nineteen eighty eight,
if I'm not mistaking. With Ron rothis' update that that
he sends out to everybody to keep this update to
where we are, and it is serious and as I
look around right now in our area or anywhere I
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drive through the state of Ohio pretty much, you know,
you can see that the results really starting to come
in now from how dry it is. And I think
what bothers me a little bit, maybe it bothers me
a lot, is that I don't think a lot of
people are concerned about where we are right now in
(19:58):
this drought situation. Lawns look pretty bad. And that's okay,
because the lawn technically, unless you can afford to watered
on a you know, with an irrigation system and a
regular basis, you let it go, Dorman, and we'll limp
it through and we'll bring that back around. You can
always redo that lawn. I start looking out the landscapes
right now, and I'm looking at some of those bigger trees,
(20:20):
native or not, and they're turning different colors, not for
the fall, but because of the drought. It's a serious
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
Talking yarding at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five, Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy. Uh. And of course, as we went into
the break there talking about the drought. It's a serious,
serious situation for Ohio and surrounding areas, and then may
be in your area as well. And I understand as
a matter of fact, I think there's a couple counties
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now starting to look at some water restrictions, and so
far we haven't been hit with that too too much
as far as I had heard, starting to see some
water restrictions. And of course when you get into that,
one of the first things he gets cut off is
watering flowers and things like that. So you know what
your restrictions are and the ct cetera. And I think,
of course, when we talk about watering in the best
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times it is now, I mean that if you're going
to do it, do it, you know early in the morning,
you know, four to five o'clock in the morning till
about nine o'clock. If you can't do it till, then
do it late in the evening, which is another you know,
the second probably best time worst being during the day.
But let me tell you this, if that's the only
time you can water and the plants are really hurting
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and you're you know, hand watering or whatever, just do it.
Just get them watered to try to save them. But
you know, early or early morning or late in the
evening your best to show, you know, what's interesting. As
I sit here with my talking about the show with
my cell phone obviously turned down, but I always get
emails through the show from friends or associates in the
(24:12):
industry pointing things out to me or whatever. And of course,
Kevin O'Dell, who is I call him Kevin the plantsman,
oh calling every now and and mentioned about some plants
or whatever that are very notable for that particular time
of the year. And he just sent me a couple
of pictures from his nursery, one plant that I have
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never heard of before. And i'might have to look this
one up, but I throw it out to you and
you might want to look it up yourself. It's a
rousse assume I called September charm. This thing just now
coming into flower in September. Size of the tree right now,
the one you showed me the picture. It's like about
fifteen to twenty feet high. Nice looking plant, and the
flowers are phenomenal, Wow, unbelievable. And of course hepticodium seven sunflower.
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You know, we're always looking for plants to plant laid
in the or that will flower late in the season
for our pollinators to enjoy. And hepticodium or seven sun
son seven sunflower is a really unusual large shrubs, small tree.
It looks like a honeysuckle when it's just growing by
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itself and really not much of a show, to be
honest with you. It's great in a screen planting, you
know that type of planting. As a specimen plant not
much during the season. It has exfoliating bark, which is
kind of interesting. But when this thing starts to come
in flower in September and you start to see these flowers,
and of course the insects, I mean you talk about
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a pollinator magnet, they are all over this thing. And
then those turn into these red, bright red bracts which
are and it's creamy. It's a creamy white yellow flower.
Then the red bracts it is phenomenal. The color is unbelievable.
But it's a late bloomer, large shrub, small tree that
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it's some times hard to find. As a matter of fact,
our nursery typically grows, and I think we're in between
crops right now, hopefully because the demand is becoming more
and more. But it's seven sunflower. It's a woody shrub
and the sun is s o n There's a story
behind the as they're always is behind the names of
the plants. But seventh sunflower or hepticodium and this new rouse,
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I'm about to check that out. September charm which is
again September October bloomer and absolutely gorgeous little tree there.
So thank you Kevin Plantsman, for Kevin O'Dell for sending
those pictures to me. Appreciate it. To Columbus, we go done,
Good morning, How are you? Don I am great? Yourself? Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Pretty good? Outside of real the only myself and my
neighbor across the street will be only two ones that
I have seen watering within like probably.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
A half a mile, isn't it just I drive around
and that's just totally amazed.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, it's funny. She's she's a retired real estate and
she was telling me stories how back in the summer
of eighty eight, I wasn't here, but in the summer
of eighty eight that it was the drought was so
bad that but people were wandering, and that was she
couldn't sell any houses because the lawn was brown. And
you think about that today, that's just like who no
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one cares. So I think we've kind of swung the
other way instead of the people were obsessed back in
appenalty here about keeping the grass green, and now we
just don't care about anything about walking that because I've
just seen I mean I've seen the cottonwoods have just
dropped the leaves. Yeah, London planes, the scamos honeystuck, the honeysuckle,
the invasive honeysuckle looaking down and telling yellow off when
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the invasive plant cat is struggling, you might have a problem.
And this I actually looked this up. This is Rolschook, Columbus.
This is our driest meteorological summer on record. We just
passed nineteen thirty. I guess the penalty of a period
from thirty to thirty one is the driest period ever
in Columbus. But yeah, I I you know, I have
I saw him own busines. I've tried telling some of
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my clients to water, and the thing I'm actually went
into it seems to be, Yeah, it's a money issue,
but it's also a time issue. Oh sure, people, you know,
the plans are stressed out, but I mean, come on,
since the last five years, the humans are stressed out,
and so it's just I kind of get the feedback
of like, oh, one more thing I have to do,
So I mean I understand that, but this is what
(28:21):
I kind of thought about going to a subscription based
model for landscaping services. I think that would be in
the lasting. Why just come in and do everything at once?
But anyway, yeah, trying to get people to water, and
I've you know, some of the trees I plan and
give out free sprinkle. But yeah, no, it's like no
one bothers here anymore. I mean even even fifteen years ago,
people watered more.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So I'm not sure what now. You you're in your sixties,
you've been here the whole live in Ohio, Yep, what
do you think changed?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I you know, well, you know, I think over time
things do change. I mean I used to talk about
how even with the gardening show, I used to get
folks that would call in and say, my grandfather used
to tell me this, or my dad used to tell
me that. And of course you don't get that at
all anymore because that's not passed along from generation the generation.
And you know, the thing about the lawns don and
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I understand that that's the easiest thing to replace, there's
no doubt. So you give up, you know, don't waste
the money on the lawn. But you look at those
trees out there, You look at those larger evergreens, You
look at the things that you planted over the last
three or four years. That's an investment in your property.
And you know, the extra one hundred dollars or whatever
it costs a month to keep those alive and investing.
I look at it and say, you're investing in you know,
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you're protecting your investment of what you've got out there,
because you're never going to replace those bigger evergreens and
you're never going to replace those bigger trees, you know,
So let the lawn go and let the let the
flowers go and let the containers go, you know, and
do that. And that's what we're doing. We're tearing that
kind of stuff out right now at our house because
I'm just not gonna water it anymore. And We're gonna
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come back with mums and stuff here in another couple
of weeks. But protecting the investment is the way I
look at it. But I just you know, I look around,
I'm with you right now, and I just don't see
anybody concerned about it. It is what it is, and
what happens is what happens, and it is a time concern.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It is a time well that's why, you know. The
best sprinkle I found of those little patterns sprink clots
was like the moon and the half moon. I think
that was to make them sure. But those are the best.
Those are the best because you don't be oscillating the
pulsatian sprink clos. I just they don't. I mean, I
think you really waste my water.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I mean, who needs water restrictions knowing waters?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So, and I think that's the problem. I think people
got the messages of don't water your lawn, and so
they just kind of as humans tend to do, go
to the other side of the pendulum.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
And don't water, don't water anything. Yeah, and that's not
the point.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
So I think, I mean, you water, you long at
least you get everything. So I mean, I think maybe
we need to start going back to tell people just
say a sprinkle out on a lawn and forget about it.
I know that uses a lot of water, but I mean,
people do what they're going to do.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And I think this is also a time that you
can take it. I look at a couple of things
that on my nose today is and that's you know,
trying to amend the soils as best you can anytime
you have an opportunity to get more organic matter into
the soil, which obviously helps your plants to root in deeper.
And when you do water or you do get rainfall through,
it helps to absorb it. I mean, there's no doubt
about it. And that's you know, the cultural practices also
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really start to come into play, and the watering thing, obviously.
I remember a couple in this past spring said we
were looking at our landscaping and what we were going
to plant based on the amount of time we had
to garden, but we didn't realize how much time it
took just to water it. And it's like, yeah, you're right,
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that's an addition to taking care of the plants. But yeah,
it's a tough one, there's no doubt. I hope folks
are out there listening that they will try to protect
their investments. And by the way, I was gonna mention
to you got to go on a break here, but
look at tree hugger sprinklers. That's a really cool st Yeah,
a really cool sprinkle that wraps actually goes around the
trunk of trees and then water is it from the
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base And it's a really cool setup. I wish I
had invented that. But there's several sizes, but check it out.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah there's gator bags. I'm not a fan of those games.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Not at all. And socer hoses this time of the year,
are folks there, Well, I'm using soker hose and you
know up for twenty minutes, Well right now needs about
six or eight hours to do what it needs to do.
So yeah, look at those tree hugger sprinkers. I think
you like, hey, Dom, we gotta go. But great insight.
I appreciate the call all right, take care, quick break,
we come back. Kevin o'dewll is on hold here in
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardening and yardening during a
very serious, serious draft for our area. You know, wherever
you're listening to our show this morning, or you know,
whether it be podcasts, could be anywhere around the country.
You know, hopefully you're not going through what we're going
through right now, because it is serious for us. Since
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nineteen eighty eight, that was, like I can remember back
to that. That was a tough, tough summer. I think
it was. What was interesting is And by the way,
let's get Kevin O'Dell on here this morning. Kevin, good morning,
Good morning. I was talking about Yeah, absolutely, I talked
about back in nineteen eighty eight, and I can remember
back then we had a great spring season in the
Garden Center because it really hadn't rained a whole lot
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and people could garden and it was just right. But
then it never stopped and it just kept going and going,
and it was so hot and so dry. That summer
was phenomenal. And of course we're past that point right.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Now, Yes, sure we are. And you know, Ron I
like to make a point just you know, besides the
drought we have, now we've had this incredible heat and
that's taking us damage on a lot of planets.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
But they'll put together and that heat as a as
a real damage to trees.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, you know, and some folks, some folks like, well,
I've been watering, I've been doing whatever. But the kicker is,
you know, it's still nothing like Mother Nature watering. But
you can water, water, water, but in many cases these
plants are just that heat in that direct sun all
day long. It just beats them up. I mean, you know,
just the way it is. So it's been a tough
one been, sir.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
I have to make a correction on my statement to
you this morning. Is the ruis is September Beauty Beauty,
not September charm. September beauty. And you can find out
about it on the University of Alabama website. It's got
a very good description of it. But I was introduced
to this plant by our friend up north a few
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years ago. And besides it being a beautiful plant, it's
got a great structure to it, you know, a shrub form.
Great structure of why it spreading branches, but a very
nice color to the trunk that has looked fantastic with
uplights from a you know, a good garden lighting designer.
Pollination is incredible. I have them in two rows next
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to each other at the nursery. Pepticodium blooms a little
bit earlier than the ruis. But you talk about pollinators
of all kinds. I just love to walk through that
lane that's between the two of those and to see
all the pollinators on those plants. It's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, they have to coodium, you know. When we have
those at the at the nursery. Like you said, you
walk along and look at those flowers. There's a little
bit of everything on those. Enjoying the pollen off of those.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yeah, the same thing with that September beauty. I mean,
it's incredible. How many is it now? That plant gets big?
I think it's a very structural plant that you know
out in the art, out in the open full sign
they have at the nursery. It's got a very nice
leaf to it that you know from the ones at
the nursery. They haven't they don't show any damage from me.
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They can get an additional water. But I really really.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Like that plant.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Now, how any fall color there?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Typical ROAs you know, gets some red, gets a little
bit of yellow in it, a little bit of orange.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
It is.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
I mean, I can't describe that plant. I'll send you
a couple of better photos.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Of it, okay, all right, Yeah, it's beautiful what I
see there. And the hept to codium. I think sometimes
that can be kind of a hard sell to people
because you look at that thing when it's smaller and
it looks like a it just looks like an old
honeysuckle shrub kind of sitting there.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
It's ugly.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, it's really ugly. It's just not a whole lot
to it. But you know, once just in flower, oh
my gosh, and everybody's around it.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Yeah, I'm staying someplace that are selling those as standards. Now,
you know, up on a single stem, I'm not sure,
I liked it. I think that might be too much
sail up there for that single stem.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
On that planet.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That might be You're right, it.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Might not be. Also, it's a plant, you know. Sometimes
we can't tell them what to do.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, you're exactly right, And you're exactly right. So when
you were talking about the September beauty, the guy up
north that you're talking about, Bill Hendricks, Yes, sir, I talked.
I actually got a message from him last week. He
was headed out to Africa.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
He's in Africa on a plant exploration trip.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I surprise you're not with him.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Well, it's a little bit busy here. In a week
from now, I'm going out west to uh do a
little quadruped damage.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Oh yeah, well enjoy enjoy that when I know you do.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Yes, there one more little thing there, Bill Ron. I've
said for years, you know, we want to, you know,
protect your investment, but I've also thrown enjoyment on there.
We want to throw we want to protect your investment
and your enjoyment.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Exactly. That's my I love it. Hey always a pleasure
talking to you, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
We really appreciate what you do for our community.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
He absolutely my pleasure Kevin O'Dell our true plantsman. And
by the way, he's talking about Bill Hendricks, who is
an unbelievable man in this entire in the industry. Everybody
knows Bill. He's he does that like the Africa trip
and learns about all these new plants, brings back and
he had Klein Nurseries up in northern Ohio, and he
called because we're gonna get him on our show. We're
actually gonna see if we can get him in the
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studio and give you an opportunity to talk with Bill Hendricks.
He's a The man is phenomenal. I've had a chance
to introduce him in a few major lectures over the years,
and I've always kidded about, uh, he set it up
on the right hand of God to help him choose
all the plants that were he put on the on
this earth. Because Bill, he knows anything and everything. Unbelievable.
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But we'll try to get him on the show here
coming up in the maybe another month or so. Let's
see here, go back to the gardening phone lines, Dave
and Ohio. Dave, good morning, Hi, how are you doing wrong?
Great David? Yourself?
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Well pretty good?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Good?
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Hey, I had a question.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm pulling up.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Some ground cover that is at the front of the house.
It's in a flower bed, and it's real viney stuff.
I think it's called vinka. Yes, yeah, and and uh
it that's that stuff is just you know, it just
really grips the soil. And uh So, Anyways, what I
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was wondering is, after I try pulling out as much
of it as I can, uh, there seems to be
a lot of little vines, uh that are that are
still there? Is there something I can maybe chemically put
on there to to eradicate the rest of it and
before it playing something else in there?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Well, you know when I when I look at things
like and is this the variegated vinka or is this
the vink? I mean is the leaf a solid green?
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It has little well it has flowers on it, you know, spread, yeah, perfectly.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Okay, all right, so we're talking vencing miney Yeah yeah,
uh yeah. That's a tough tough one to get out
of there. But physical removal like you're doing and even
sometimes taking like a sharp square spade and just scooting
across just about a half an inch under the soil
and cutting off what you can at the top is
a great thing to do to come back in and
then treat that not really, you know, it's if you
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were gonna do anything at all, you would have actually
sprayed the foliage and let the foliage take that in
and take it into the plant and spread from there.
So physical, but the thing of it is, I mean
back up, the thing of it is with that, with
that uh sometimes called vinca or myrtle that English ivy
u wanam as coloradus. A lot of times the herbicize.
The non selective vegetation killers do little or nothing on
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those plants. So you get a little bit of burn
and that's about it. So what do you suggest. Here's
what I always suggest. You did the right thing. Physical
removal is the best thing you can do. Get as
much of it out of there as you can so
you see nothing. And then as it starts to regrow,
if it does, and sometimes it will, and then this
late in the season, sometimes it won't. But if it
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starts to regrow, then have a non selective vegetation killer
on hand and are ready to use that. You could
just do a roll, quick shot, shot shot and catch
that brand new foliage. And if you do that, not
only do you kill the foliage, but you'll kill some
of the roots that are close by. And you know,
you do that over a period of time, give it
time and then you know, if you don't see any
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more new growth, then you can start to come back
and do some do some replanting in the area, but
make sure you got it under control before you come
back and redo that. The other thing you can look
at is, if you know what you're gonna plant, you
could also come back in there, break all the mults
and everything away, put cardboard down on top of it.
There's a physical barrier. Mulch back over the top of that,
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and then plant down through the cardboard. That acts as
a physical barrier keeps it from coming back up again.
It'll break down eventually. The mulch is there for you
and you're good to go. So hopefully that helped you out.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
We'll take a quick break. We come back, Dick. Hang on,
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