September 20, 2025 • 43 mins
A cup of Joe to get things started. Also your calls and questions for the Yardoby.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Good morning, eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yardning as we cruise through this month of September. Cannot
believe it. Five weeks into high school football, already four
weeks into the college football. This is just flying on by.
Speaking of flying on by, let's reach out and grab
him before he flies by. Joe Strucker, our executive producer,
(00:56):
find out what's going on to his line and landscape.
Nothing in the website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page.
In the garden with Ron Wilson. When you were a
kid growing up, did your mom call you a strutel head?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No? No, she called me a lot of things, but
not cake head. Oh no, cake hed. No, she didn't
call me cakead.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Uh No, we were talking, Joe and I were talking
about apples.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
She had some other words for me, but not caked.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Doctor Armid he was in Austria and he sent me
a pick. He loves apples and apple strudles, and sent
me a picture of an apple strudel. You knew right
away what it was. You've looked in there instead apples
and raisins and blah blah, blah and all that, and
then you proceeded to say, but my mom makes the
best apple strud she does, so of course she does almonds,
poppy seeds, apples, mmmm hmm, every last, every last.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yeah, it's we're headed into uh gosh, it's we're
sprinting into.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
October here, crazy stuff. It's already. I mean, think about it.
High school football, you're five weeks into that. You're four
weeks into college football, yep, three weeks in the pros,
three weeks into the pros. Yeah, pretty soon or we're
going to be talking about playoffs, playoffs. Unbelievable. You and
I go through this every special. I think you and
I talk about this more in the fall, and we
(02:14):
do anytime the rest of the year about how fast
things go. Just once we get to hear and you
go start going through the football thing, and then you
get into the Halloween and then Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, as soon as Halloween hits, blink and it's ready
next year.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I had several responses when you and I kind of
went off on the Halloween decorating early, had several people
emails that kind just tries me insane. See why people
do that so early? I agree I agree. One people
were with us on that one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So yeah, we're heading into October. Yeah, and this is
my last one in September because I'm on vacation next
week lucky man, so I won't be here, so I
won't be here to bother everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, yep, got a swim beaching the party and.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I am definitely going to of relaxing. Do they have
hammocks where you're going beach? I'm sure there's beach chairs,
and I'm sure there's chairs by the pool.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
My problem with beach chairs I can't get out of them.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm not supposed to supposed to stay there.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but you know you got to get up and
get a drink or something. Snap your fingers, move the umbrella.
Oh you're going to that kind of place?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well never mind, No, I'm not really going on that,
but I but.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, snap your fingers pool boy would I had never
done that before, never done the only inclusive things.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, the the the cool part about the place for
going is that there's that they have they have they
have multiple pools at the resort, but they have at
the main part of the resort there's two pools and
one of them is for kids. And ones for adults nice,
and the one for kids has got all the slides
and all that stuff, and that's where you hang out,
(04:09):
and that's what No, I want the slides and all
of this stuff. I'll be in the adult pool that
has the bar and swim up bar. Right, has a
swim up bar, chairs in the water, stools in the water. Yeah,
you the man, Hey, gonna do it. You're gonna do it, right,
you the man? So yeah, a week in week in Florida.
(04:29):
So what time?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
What time do we usually start these swimming sessions in
the morning?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Swimming sessions in the morning.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
At the swim up bar. I don't know, you know what.
It just depends on what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, I'm on vacation, so I really don't care
what time it starts.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't care if it's nine, ten eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yep. It is what it is. It is what it is.
So yeah, it's a lot of it's good. Good, a
lot of a lot of just relaxing because I didn't
really need I haven't had much relaxing this year.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Good. We're not good for that, but good to get
able to do this.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So anyway, what's going on in the yard. Have you
been watering.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
If you haven't been, you're in trouble. Your evergreens are
in trouble. Your lawn's in trouble. But you know, we're
always optimistic. And if you look at the weather forecast,
starting Monday, things cool back down. We're back into the seventies,
fifties and sixties at night, and there is a big
blue rain drop every day. Next week there's a chance
(05:31):
of showers. Not they're not talking monsoons, but there's a
chance of rainfall every day. So you know, I look
at that and say that's pretty good. Ron Roth has
even semi agreed with it. So this'd be a great
weekend to get out and get ahead of it. Yeah,
and get things really watered in, well, get your stuff planted,
you know, do whatever you need to do, and then
(05:51):
let mother nature come through next week and help you
continue to water it in. So it looks good. It
looks like the weather's going to switch back around for us,
so we will take.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It, of course. And at least I haven't had the boat,
or at least the girls haven't had the mot.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Not.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
A lot of people have been more in the last
three weeks or so. Absolutely not us. You have an
irrigated lawn. I definitely don't have that, but don't you
wish you did? Let me think about it, and I
think more people should think about this. I mean, we're
seeing this irrigated lawn. I'd rather have a self mowing lawn.
(06:28):
Get about three goats can work on that's fenced already.
We gotta do the front too, well, the frost's not
that hard, okay. Then you bring in the three goats.
The dogs would love playing with the you'd have those
in your backyard, and.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Knowing me and i'd have the goats that freak out
and they fainting ghosts, faint goats. I think. I don't
think my my neighborhood is zoned for goats or probably animals.
Probably not. But if you can work on that, sure
he's self knowing lawn, that would be great.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You do the low the low mo. I don't think
there's such a thing as a no mo, but a
lomo well three times a year, twice a year.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, okay, And I am thinking about getting new lawn
mower for next year. Nice, bigger one, nice, like one
of those ones that the landscapers use that you can't
stand on.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The back, right around the back on the little slide,
so your skid thing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Just what you need because.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Out of everything. Yeah, hate the lawn.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Knowing you for twenty four years and it's been you've
been that way since you first got open, And I
hate pulling weeds. Do you do that when you were
a kid?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What the lawn? Yeah? No, I did it when dad let.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Me, when he let you. So you did want to
it one time?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I wanted to because I've made extra money that way.
But oh but they were always afraid that I was
gonna you know, oh we're using this big machine. You're
gonna get your foot that youth like, okay, fine.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
My parents had me on that Bowlin's lawnmower. I'm sure
eight years old, probably earlier.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So who do you have today on the show?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Are you Gary Sullivan, Buggy, Joe Boggs, Danny Gleeson always
throughout the show? Uh, limited to one today so we
can take a lot of calls. Got a lot of
tips to share as well.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Our good friend here, Kevin O'Dell from Odell Landscaping, And
Kevin's always chiming in on our show. He's a true plantsman.
He and Steve Fulter at that category. It's just you know,
way up there when it comes to plants. Uh. And
he's always chiming on the show. But he's also a hunter.
And there's a problem going around with deer right now
in many states, including Ohio, and I guess it's becoming
(08:56):
more and more prominent in our area. And he would
like folks to know more about it. In case you
see this happening to the deer in your yards, what
to do about it? Learn more about this disease. Doesn't
it doesn't affect us, but talk about that. And then
the second segment we're going to talk about Okay, so
you're such a good landscaper and how do you protect
those nice landscapes that you put in from deer damage?
(09:18):
So he's going to share a few tips with that
as well. Very cool, so fun talking to Kevin for
half an hour.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah. The website is Ron Wilson online dot com, along
with the Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson
and tip sheets galore. I also brought back who came
through with for you this week, which I said he
would Buggy Joe. Buggy Joe with all the kissing bug.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, and I've moved that back to the top because
the kissing bug things is going on. Oh the other
thing this week on a sidebar here, all these people
are now posting stuff because the the lantern fly is.
People are starting to see lantern flies in their yard
and they're acting like this is like, oh, look at
(10:01):
this pretty colorful buzz. It's the most colorful insect out there,
I think. And I'm looking at these videos. It's smash
the damn thing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Kill it, hits an aphit on steroids.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And then you know, someone's like, oh, look look how
fastest things fly. And she hit it with a stick,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
This, well, that's like they got a spring underneath them.
They go straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Okay, good job now and now and now you had
no chance of killing this thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know what's funny is and we've been talking about
spotted lantern fly for a long time and it was
coming here. Then there's nothing to stop it. You can
control it, you can spray it, keep it under, you know,
control it, but you got to watch for it and
all that stuff. And they love grapes. Grape growers are
not happy about that. But nevertheless, non native invasive passed,
but it's very colorful. All the stages of us outstanding.
(10:50):
We saw it up in Cleveland. We were up there
two days, last two days, Wednesday, Thursday days, three days,
all right, whatever. Anyway, they've had it for a long time.
Now we're finally getting here. But only the west side
of Cincinnati has it, where it's a lot and hasn't
really shown up as much. On the east or northern
(11:10):
part of Cincinnati. We're seeing a few here and there,
but not like on the west side where the box
tree moth is more on the east side and I
haven't seen any so far on the west side. So
they'll all cross cross paths. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the
spot of the area in the west side.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
We got them things, all the things on the east side,
and they like come in and they it's kind of
like the Jets and the sharks.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, but that spotted lanternfly, you just touch that thing
and it springs straight up in here.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You're like, oh wow, yeah, yeah, kill that thing.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah. So yeah, it's uh. When they get in mass numbers,
they can they don't kill trees, but they can sure
weaken them and turn them black because of the honeydew
that poop.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Uh have you seen them yet here? You're ard not
in my yard. I haven't seen any Uh. The fall
checklist is post print it up, good, mark it off,
good rita is making moonshine. And I'm saving this recipe
because I think I'm gonna do someone I get back from.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Vacation additional purposes. Only sure we'll go with that. It's
it's it's apple flavored, right, yep. Yeah, So an opt
to send that rescued to doctor Armitage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because we we'll need it for them from when we
get sick this.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah. And so you take a sip of that, You've
got the warm apple and the warmness of the other
stuff alcohol. Yes, and that just makes you feel better,
of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes. And the plant of the week is the bald cypress.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Bald cypress. It's time to plant trees. It's fall. It's
plant trees. That's one that everybody you know, you see them.
You're gonna see a lot of them next week, yep.
Down in Florida. But then it's like, you know, to
believe or not, they grow just about anywhere and everywhere,
very tough and hardy and street tree, lawn tree, it's
big tree. Although there's some new varieties of state narrow,
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but bald cypress is a great choice for that evergreen look.
But do remember they drop those needles in the fall
and then they come back out in the springtime. It's
amazing people don't realize that. And don redwood, which is
I'll give you the hint that's our next week. But
they dropped their needles in the fall, and I get
these calls. We planted this in the june, and all
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of a sudden, all the leaves are turning a bright
red and they're starting to fall off the tree. What
did we do wrong? You did everything right. That's what
it's supposed to hear. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
All right. Well, I will catch you in Joe's on
the flip side in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Good, have a great time. I know you will find
that hammock, that beach chair, and that pool boy ye fingers,
and the little in the barstool in the middle of
the brook with the umbrella in it. You don't do that,
I might might, okay, fine, pineapple, little coconut.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yep, maybe some apple, maybe some moonshine freedom uh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Would bring some body for us to take have fun.
You you I know you will, all right, Relax man,
all right, Joe Struck our executive producer. If you like
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
And for finally the sweet tarts on the back Sweethearts
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have fun, Thank you all right. Eight hundred A two
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Speaker 1 (17:48):
Welcome back here in the guide with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. I got about two minutes to go,
so let's go right to South Carolina. Harry, Good morning
morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hi are you Harry.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm doing great in yourself.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Uh, let's get to it. Japanese beetles they come out
in June.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, they're on June bug. That's correct. Well, there are
there are.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They look like Japanese boodles. They come up in late June.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Uh, I've been doing for me. And they attack my
maple tree in the front yards, three year old tree,
do some damage here. He looks ugly. Wife wants to
cut it down and put a palm tree in there.
I don't want to. I want to save the tree.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I've been people that are telling me I can put
something in the yard in September to get rid of
the larva.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, actually the best time is in the spring. And
it's it's a grub is it. Yeah, it's called a
grub preventor, and and and uh there's grub ax and
then there's grub stop, so make sure you know which
one you're getting. There are grub killers and they are
a grub preventor. So when you go to the local
garden center, say I'm looking for a grub preventter, and
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typically that's applied, usually anytime May early June. All right, Now,
what happens is the beetles that are the grubs that
are already in the soil. They're there. They're gonna hatch
out in the next year, and they're gonna be adults
and they're gonna, you know, come out and do their thing.
But what you're doing putting it down next spring is
stopping the ones from the future on from that point forward.
(19:25):
So you're still gonna get some beetles, all right, but
but you're you're working for twenty twenty seven. Now, what
you're talking about is actually June or May beetles, which
are kind of just a copper brown, and Japanese beetles
have more of an there.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, these are more decorative. They look
like Japanese beetles, and the pictures I've been seeing online.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well then it could be. But either one will feed
on the folies. But yeah, that's that is the best shot.
Keep listening to the show. We come back from the break.
I will continue talking about grub control and beetle control
and help you out as much as I can. Man
appreciate the call. Appreciate you listening to our show. Eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. That's our number.
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Speaker 1 (21:57):
Talking to your army at eight hundred two three eight
two five five, good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking there before we went into the break.
Lexington and South Carolina, a beautiful little town by the way.
About grub control and Japanese beetles. There are many different
types of beetles and many different types of grubs. The
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grubs obviously are where the beetles come from in the soil.
Then they hatch out in the springtime and then continue
to fly around devour some of your leaves and the flowers,
and then make lay the eggs back into the turf,
and then you know the season's over. And if you
looked at a chart right now, and typically most of
them come out, and there's all, like I said, all
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different kinds. I think Jesus State of Ohio. I they've
got so many different types. But that's the way they
all pretty much. The life cycle is for all of them,
and most of them start to come out sometime in
mayish through June, even into July. And we've had Japanese
beetles here in July with no problem. But June bugs
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may may beetles, June beetles, Asian beetles, Japanese Beetles've got
a whole bunch of them. Anyway, the goal is to yes,
go after the grubs, but typically we only go after
the grubs if we have serious turf problems because they
do feed on debris and the turf root systems in
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the soil, and when you start to have turf problems,
that's typically when we go in and treat for grubs
for grub control. Now, if you have really high populations
of beetles flying into because they can fly into your yard,
there's a good chance there's going to be some grubs
in your yard as well. So when do you treat,
Remember that they lay eggs in the summer. Those eggs
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go through several phases. By fall, they're a very small grub.
They're still feeding. In September, it's all weather pending September
early October, u are still feeding a little bit. They're small,
and then as the temperatures get cooler, they drop down
into the soil for overwintering, all right, They overwinter deep
in the soil, and in the springtime when it starts
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to warm up, they start to move back up to
the top. They're fat and sassy at that point. Not
a lot of feeding. Typically rarely any damage in the
springtime because the lawn is so actively growing, and then
they hatch out become adults, whatever their time period happens
to be. So grub control is two things. One is
the preventer is typically the best, and that's applied sometime
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in our area typically mid to late May, June, July,
even into early August. Get it in, you got to
water it in. Well, that's a key, and once that
gets in there, then that helps to prevent them from growing.
So you catch them, you nip it in the bud.
So Barney would say, you nip it in the bud,
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right then, So they lay those eggs. Done deal, and
that lasts typically about ninety das, so it carries you
if you put it first to Junie at June, July,
and August, all right, so keep that in mind as well,
so you know, that's why sometimes we'll back off till
about the first or mid June to make sure it
carries into the later part of the summer. If by chance,
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you have had a lot of beetle problems and you
had grub problems, and grub problems starting can show up
on your lawn in September from those grubs feeding already,
you can go in in September and even early October
again depending on the weather, and use a grub killer,
and that would be a product that you would apply
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that again you get a water do in well that
kills the grubs that are there right then or within
about a two week period now some of them say
at twenty four hour or a grub control. Yeah, someone
can work that quickly, but over a two week period
or so. So you could go after them if you
know you have them in September and early October by
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applying that, getting it watered in and actually killing the
grubs while they're still at the top of the surface
feeding on those roots all right. Otherwise you can wait
until we get back into the spring season and then
apply that. Like I said, in our area, it's typically
June July, even early August sometime in there for the
preventter which takes care of those young eggs as they're
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laying their eggs throughout the summer season and into yea
into early September. But June, July and August is when
we typically apply that. So you got two ways to
go after it. And that doesn't stop all of them.
They fly distances to come in and feed, so you'll
still get that. But that will obviously reduce the populations
in your turf, cut down on any turf issues that
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you're having, and should help to reduce some of the
populations that are flying out there as well. I do
not recommend using Japanese beetle traps. Japanese beetle traps attract them,
as research has been done. I don't know why. Sometimes
I don't know why garden centers still sell Japanese beetle traps.
Research is done. It in many cases, you draw more
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Japanese beetles to that trap and you can't catch them
all because it fills up so quickly then you would
have gotten had you not put the trap out there.
And the pheromone or hormones that are pheromones that are
in that trap too tract the beetles to your yard.
If anything, you would buy beetle traps and put them
in your neighbor's yard so they go to your neighbor's yard.
But you really don't want to use those unless you
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can get them way away from your house and maybe
try to attract the beetles further away from your home.
That's a possibility. But again and for around the landscape,
I have found you know, you can cover plants up
with cheese cloth or whatever for two or three weeks
during the heavy feeding time. I've also found it getting
up in the morning or in the evening and hosing
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off plants that have the beetles feeding on them causes
them to fly away go somewhere else. And amazing how
you can minimize damages there. Actually spraying with an insecticide.
You could spray every day and not even under control.
So no, we don't really recommend a lot of insecticidal sprays.
But again, the grub control grub killers in the summer
(28:09):
or late summer like September ish October, and then the
grub preventers usually late May, but June, July and early August.
And that's the way you take a look at those
and good luck with it. To Glendale we go. David,
good morning, Good morning, Ron. How are you. I'm good
house with the lawn seating.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Hey, well, I'm about ready to go. Call you up
a few weeks ago, and you told me to buy
some turf type tall sescue right now, I've gone out
and looked around for it. I went down Ready and
Feed and Seed. I went into minors and I can't
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find it. Where can I.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Find Ready Seed doesn't have turf type tall rescue.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, I'm gonna look again, because I was in and
out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna they. I'm pretty sure that they usually
handle something. Just tell them you're looking for turf type
tall rescue. That's what you're looking for. And I sometimes
they'll sell it as a single like just like fine
lawn tall rescue. Most of the time it's sold in
a blend, and I like the blends better than the
single stand. But just tell them turf type tall rescue,
(29:19):
that's the grassed you're looking for. If they don't have it,
you know, look at something that white Oaks got it. Nay,
turf's has it, Sharon Nursery. I mean most of the
garden centers I know have the turf type tall rescues
because it's becoming one of the most popular grasses used
in our area.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Now regarless grass will go, will grow straight up and
down right.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, it's a yeah, it's a great turf. And again
they call it turf type because it's like a second
cousin the Kentucky fescue which you see along the expressway.
But it's a desirable uh with as far as the blades,
the height that it gets, et cetera, et cetera. So
it's a good, excellent grass for turf.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Okay, now I'm probably gonna do it this week. How
long can I go? Can I Can I plant the
seed in October or November?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Once you get we try to get it in September.
And and the way it's looking right now, we've been dry,
so folks have been holding off a little bit. Looks
like good rainfall next week. So I'm looking to jump
in there this weekend and get some things done anticipating
some rainfall. Next week, getting moisture back in the ground.
It's nice to get that up and growing. So the
sooner you can get that seeded, the quicker it is
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going to come up. Last year, it stayed warm so
late that you know a lot of folks that's seated
in mid to late October still got the grass to
come up and looking pretty good. But you want to
get it in as soon as you can to give
it a chance to get up, start to root in, growing,
et cetera, et cetera. So by the time we get
to the first of December, it's looking pretty darn good.
At that point. Once we get to end of November
(30:50):
and December, it now becomes dormant seeding, which then it
is lays there until next spring.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Okay, you know, ron, I hit literally manually pulled out
all the crab grass, the broad leaf clover, and weeds,
all different kinds of weeds. My yard, My front yard
was a worse front yard on the street. So that's
where I'm going. I got it. I got it all
(31:18):
out and I killed it. Pulled weed, pulled all the
roots out down deep. You would think of nuts.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, I don't think you're nuts. I think it's great.
I'm glad you did it, and I think you know
what's gonna happen now. And I'm being honest when I
say this, when you if you get back in there
and we can get that grass seed down and the
starter fertilizer and get that up and growing next spring
you and maybe by the end of the fall, but
next spring for sure and going in the summer, you
won't have the worst looking lawn out there. You'll have
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a much better looking lawn. And it just gets better
and better as it continues to mature.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
All right, well, I appreciate your.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Turn straight front, David. Keep us posted now you don't
want to hear what how everything goes for quick break,
we come back. I got lots of tips to sharing course.
Taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five coming up the top of the hour.
Kevin O'Dell And you've heard Kevin on our show many times,
true plantsman, landscape designer, really knows this stuff. Well, there's
(32:15):
a there's a disease that's affecting deer in our area
in other states as well, and it doesn't affect us,
but it does affect them. Kevin wants to let everybody
know about it. In case you see deer in your
yard that are acting a little different, that's what it
is and we want to know about it and report
it and all of that. But then we're going to
talk with Kevin. Okay, so what do you do as
an expert landscape designer and installer to keep the deer
(32:37):
out of your great landscapes? How do you handle that?
You should have some good tips from Kevin coming up
in our next hour and then right now eight hundred
eight two three eight two five to five for your
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Got your fall checklist on there for you. You can
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print that out and then kind of work your way
through doesn't apply to all lawns in the in the
air and the areas around us, but most of them.
So you can kind of use that as a checklist
as you go through the fall season, making sure you
get things taken care of before we get into the winter.
And by the way, I was at a buying show
this week in Cleveland, Ohio, the BFG Show, and that's
where independent garden centers go and see all the new
(35:28):
products that are coming along, order the products for next year.
You know that type of thing, And it always kills
me when on the I look on the bag is
a fertilizer and it says, you know, the winteriser, getting
your lawn ready for the winter. It's like, wait a minute,
I'm not getting it ready for the winter. I'm getting
it ready for next spring. I'm building on it for spring.
And you know, sometimes that winterriser thing can be kind
(35:50):
of confusing. It's just you need to feed the lawn
twice in the fall. That's just the cool season grasses,
not warm season. And typically a lot of times what
we are using in the beginning of the fall is
the same thing we use at the end of the fall,
which can also be the same thing we're using in
the springtime. Yes, so don't let that kind of fool
you and I just kind of always laugh and I
look at that because we're actually building up our lawns
(36:12):
for the how it looks in the fall, and it's
going to look great. You know, it's going to go
through the winter just fine, and then it comes out
in the springtime and look even better. That's why what
you do in the fall for cool season turf is
the backbone to how well that lawn is going to
perform in the spring and obviously coming through the winter,
but it's you know, we're working on the next spring
and summer and going into the next fall. So do
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keep that in mind. And by the way, I was
talking about the pre emergent or the well, I could
have been talking about pre emergent oversides, but the grub
preventors and the grub killers and putting down the grass seed,
you know, the lawn renovation, planting. You know, the whole
thing that comes back to is water. Water is the
key to the success of what all the things that
(36:55):
you're doing out there. Proper watering and you know, core
air rating. You got to have moisture in the ground
or you can't core air rate. You may have to
water two or three days in advance, come back in
core air rate. Then come back and do what you're
gonna do, and then get the sprinkler backs set up
to get some good even moisture in there. You've got
to water things in. You've got to water in pre
emerged oversides. You've got to water in grub killers, you've
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got to water in grub preventters. You've got to water
in those newly planted trees and shrubs and for them
keep them watered as we go through the fall and
right up to the holiday season. So important. And right
now we're in a pretty serious drought in the state
of Ohio. I mean, it's dry out there, modern drought,
light drought. We got all the droughts that we're looking at.
(37:41):
And hopefully we're gonna get some rainfall coming in here
and cooler temperatures next week, but you can't count on that.
So you've got to make sure you're watering. And that's
where I'm thinking it may be something you look at
the investment somewhere down the road of installing an irrigation
system into your lawn that you would use manually, and
(38:01):
it could be into the landscape as well, but into
the lawn that you operate manually. You hearst the last
weekend talk at the talking with a good friend, Gary Sullivan,
who is the home improvement expert. And Gary's got a
great irrigation system, but rarely is it on a timer.
The only time he would ever put it on a
timer is if he was going to be out of
town for a couple of weeks and he looks down
(38:22):
the scheduled and it doesn't look like it's going to
rain for two weeks. He may put it on a
timer to water once while he's gone. But you know,
he does that manually, so it's not running all the time.
You just turn it on when you need to be watering.
But it really helps you to keep everything looking good.
Watering timely watering. You're not dragging hoses around everywhere. I
(38:45):
would be dragging the hoses for the landscape, but I
wouldn't be dragging the hoses for the turf. So think
about down the road. Would an irrigation system be good
for your lawn and the way that you you know,
you garden as well, so you might want to keep it.
Take a look at that. It just seems like that's
been a trend more and more of dry falls going
(39:07):
into the fall season and through the fall. And if
that is I think it may really come in handy
for you. But again, watering, proper watering is key, is
key to so many things that we do in our
yards and gardens, and we've got to make sure we
and sometimes it can be hard to figure that one
out in some cases, especially watering newly planted trees and
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shrubs is a two wet is it too dry? Im
I getting enough water in there? That's why, you know,
my general rule of thumb is soak the heck out
of it. Don't just slightly soak water till the hole
fills up and water's running out of the hole and
I'll cross to the top of the soil. Soak it
really well, give it time to get close to drying out.
Soak it really well. If you do that, you know
(39:50):
you got it made. And that that pretty much applies
to container gardening, raise bed gardening, hanging basket gardening, house
plant gardening. That's typically what you're looking to do. There
are some plants that like good even moisture. Otherwise that
really does work for you. And by the way, as
we are now going into the fall season. I do
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want to remind you there's a few things that we
actually stop doing at this stage rather than continuing to do.
The one is heavy pruning. You really don't want to
encourage any new growth on woody trees and shrubs and
evergreens at this stage in the game. You want them
to harden off, stop growing, get ready for the now.
You want them to get ready for the winter season.
(40:32):
So you know, heavy pruning, heavy cutbacks. If you got
to do that, save it for late in the fall
after the plants have gone dormit, or do it in
the spring, late winter, early spring before they start to
leaf back out again. Spring flowering plants, of course, you
would wait till they flower and then you cut them
back at that time. But we don't want to encourage
new growth right now, So don't do heavy shearing, hand pruning,
(40:53):
clipping a few pieces out here and there, whole branch
removal not an issue. Keep at that, But don't heavily
prune trees and shrubs at this stage, all right. Don't
heavily apply fertilizers right now, except for like root stimulants.
Planting new trees and shrubs. Back off on that right now, now,
applying all natural fertilizers that are like a four to
(41:16):
two one. You can get by with that. But for
the most part, we don't want to apply a lot
of fertilizer right now because again we're not encouraging new growth.
Container gardens with the annuals. Different story. Hanging basket with annuals,
different story. Yeah, we're going to continue to feed those,
but for the most part, for the rest of it,
we're going to back off. You could come back later
in the fall as they start to shut down and
(41:39):
give them a little feeding. The nestlomen going into the
winter season of light feeding, and in many cases with evergreens,
if you insist on feeding in the late fall, it's
about half the normal rate. Most of the time. Spring
them is one of your better times for feeding. But again,
don't do that, all right, and stop deadheading roses all right,
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they want to harden off as well. By leaving those
old flowers on there, it helps to tell them to
stop growing, start to harden off and get ready for
the winter season, right And don't rush to cut back
most of those perennials right now. If they're fifty percent green,
leave them alone if you can. They're still supplying a
nutrients back to the root system, and in some cases
you want to leave those flowers on there for seeds
(42:21):
for later, and some of the stems as well for
wildlife for later as well. We'll talk more about that
as we go through the fall season. All right, quick break,
we come back. Mister Kevin O'Dell's going to join us.
We're going to talk about a little deer issue that's
going on in our area other states as well, and
then he's going to give us some tips on landscaping
without a lot of deer damage here in the garden
with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
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Good morning, eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yardning as we cruise through this month of September. Cannot
believe it. Five weeks into high school football, already four
weeks into the college football. This is just flying on by.
Speaking of flying on by, let's reach out and grab
him before he flies by. Joe Strucker, our executive producer,
(00:56):
find out what's going on to his line and landscape.
Nothing in the website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page.
In the garden with Ron Wilson. When you were a
kid growing up, did your mom call you a strutel head?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No? No, she called me a lot of things, but
not cake head. Oh no, cake hed. No, she didn't
call me cakead.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Uh No, we were talking, Joe and I were talking
about apples.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
She had some other words for me, but not caked.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Doctor Armid he was in Austria and he sent me
a pick. He loves apples and apple strudles, and sent
me a picture of an apple strudel. You knew right
away what it was. You've looked in there instead apples
and raisins and blah blah, blah and all that, and
then you proceeded to say, but my mom makes the
best apple strud she does, so of course she does almonds,
poppy seeds, apples, mmmm hmm, every last, every last.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yeah, it's we're headed into uh gosh, it's we're
sprinting into.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
October here, crazy stuff. It's already. I mean, think about it.
High school football, you're five weeks into that. You're four
weeks into college football, yep, three weeks in the pros,
three weeks into the pros. Yeah, pretty soon or we're
going to be talking about playoffs, playoffs. Unbelievable. You and
I go through this every special. I think you and
I talk about this more in the fall, and we
(02:14):
do anytime the rest of the year about how fast
things go. Just once we get to hear and you
go start going through the football thing, and then you
get into the Halloween and then Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, as soon as Halloween hits, blink and it's ready
next year.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I had several responses when you and I kind of
went off on the Halloween decorating early, had several people
emails that kind just tries me insane. See why people
do that so early? I agree I agree. One people
were with us on that one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So yeah, we're heading into October. Yeah, and this is
my last one in September because I'm on vacation next
week lucky man, so I won't be here, so I
won't be here to bother everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, yep, got a swim beaching the party and.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I am definitely going to of relaxing. Do they have
hammocks where you're going beach? I'm sure there's beach chairs,
and I'm sure there's chairs by the pool.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
My problem with beach chairs I can't get out of them.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm not supposed to supposed to stay there.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but you know you got to get up and
get a drink or something. Snap your fingers, move the umbrella.
Oh you're going to that kind of place?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well never mind, No, I'm not really going on that,
but I but.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, snap your fingers pool boy would I had never
done that before, never done the only inclusive things.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, the the the cool part about the place for
going is that there's that they have they have they
have multiple pools at the resort, but they have at
the main part of the resort there's two pools and
one of them is for kids. And ones for adults nice,
and the one for kids has got all the slides
and all that stuff, and that's where you hang out,
(04:09):
and that's what No, I want the slides and all
of this stuff. I'll be in the adult pool that
has the bar and swim up bar. Right, has a
swim up bar, chairs in the water, stools in the water. Yeah,
you the man, Hey, gonna do it. You're gonna do it, right,
you the man? So yeah, a week in week in Florida.
(04:29):
So what time?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
What time do we usually start these swimming sessions in
the morning?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Swimming sessions in the morning.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
At the swim up bar. I don't know, you know what.
It just depends on what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, I'm on vacation, so I really don't care
what time it starts.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't care if it's nine, ten eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yep. It is what it is. It is what it is.
So yeah, it's a lot of it's good. Good, a
lot of a lot of just relaxing because I didn't
really need I haven't had much relaxing this year.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Good. We're not good for that, but good to get
able to do this.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So anyway, what's going on in the yard. Have you
been watering.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
If you haven't been, you're in trouble. Your evergreens are
in trouble. Your lawn's in trouble. But you know, we're
always optimistic. And if you look at the weather forecast,
starting Monday, things cool back down. We're back into the seventies,
fifties and sixties at night, and there is a big
blue rain drop every day. Next week there's a chance
(05:31):
of showers. Not they're not talking monsoons, but there's a
chance of rainfall every day. So you know, I look
at that and say that's pretty good. Ron Roth has
even semi agreed with it. So this'd be a great
weekend to get out and get ahead of it. Yeah,
and get things really watered in, well, get your stuff planted,
you know, do whatever you need to do, and then
(05:51):
let mother nature come through next week and help you
continue to water it in. So it looks good. It
looks like the weather's going to switch back around for us,
so we will take.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It, of course. And at least I haven't had the boat,
or at least the girls haven't had the mot.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Not.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
A lot of people have been more in the last
three weeks or so. Absolutely not us. You have an
irrigated lawn. I definitely don't have that, but don't you
wish you did? Let me think about it, and I
think more people should think about this. I mean, we're
seeing this irrigated lawn. I'd rather have a self mowing lawn.
(06:28):
Get about three goats can work on that's fenced already.
We gotta do the front too, well, the frost's not
that hard, okay. Then you bring in the three goats.
The dogs would love playing with the you'd have those
in your backyard, and.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Knowing me and i'd have the goats that freak out
and they fainting ghosts, faint goats. I think. I don't
think my my neighborhood is zoned for goats or probably animals.
Probably not. But if you can work on that, sure
he's self knowing lawn, that would be great.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You do the low the low mo. I don't think
there's such a thing as a no mo, but a
lomo well three times a year, twice a year.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, okay, And I am thinking about getting new lawn
mower for next year. Nice, bigger one, nice, like one
of those ones that the landscapers use that you can't
stand on.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The back, right around the back on the little slide,
so your skid thing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Just what you need because.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Out of everything. Yeah, hate the lawn.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Knowing you for twenty four years and it's been you've
been that way since you first got open, And I
hate pulling weeds. Do you do that when you were
a kid?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What the lawn? Yeah? No, I did it when dad let.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Me, when he let you. So you did want to
it one time?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I wanted to because I've made extra money that way.
But oh but they were always afraid that I was
gonna you know, oh we're using this big machine. You're
gonna get your foot that youth like, okay, fine.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
My parents had me on that Bowlin's lawnmower. I'm sure
eight years old, probably earlier.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So who do you have today on the show?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Are you Gary Sullivan, Buggy, Joe Boggs, Danny Gleeson always
throughout the show? Uh, limited to one today so we
can take a lot of calls. Got a lot of
tips to share as well.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Our good friend here, Kevin O'Dell from Odell Landscaping, And
Kevin's always chiming in on our show. He's a true plantsman.
He and Steve Fulter at that category. It's just you know,
way up there when it comes to plants. Uh. And
he's always chiming on the show. But he's also a hunter.
And there's a problem going around with deer right now
in many states, including Ohio, and I guess it's becoming
(08:56):
more and more prominent in our area. And he would
like folks to know more about it. In case you
see this happening to the deer in your yards, what
to do about it? Learn more about this disease. Doesn't
it doesn't affect us, but talk about that. And then
the second segment we're going to talk about Okay, so
you're such a good landscaper and how do you protect
those nice landscapes that you put in from deer damage?
(09:18):
So he's going to share a few tips with that
as well. Very cool, so fun talking to Kevin for
half an hour.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah. The website is Ron Wilson online dot com, along
with the Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson
and tip sheets galore. I also brought back who came
through with for you this week, which I said he
would Buggy Joe. Buggy Joe with all the kissing bug.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, and I've moved that back to the top because
the kissing bug things is going on. Oh the other
thing this week on a sidebar here, all these people
are now posting stuff because the the lantern fly is.
People are starting to see lantern flies in their yard
and they're acting like this is like, oh, look at
(10:01):
this pretty colorful buzz. It's the most colorful insect out there,
I think. And I'm looking at these videos. It's smash
the damn thing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Kill it, hits an aphit on steroids.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And then you know, someone's like, oh, look look how
fastest things fly. And she hit it with a stick,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
This, well, that's like they got a spring underneath them.
They go straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Okay, good job now and now and now you had
no chance of killing this thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know what's funny is and we've been talking about
spotted lantern fly for a long time and it was
coming here. Then there's nothing to stop it. You can
control it, you can spray it, keep it under, you know,
control it, but you got to watch for it and
all that stuff. And they love grapes. Grape growers are
not happy about that. But nevertheless, non native invasive passed,
but it's very colorful. All the stages of us outstanding.
(10:50):
We saw it up in Cleveland. We were up there
two days, last two days, Wednesday, Thursday days, three days,
all right, whatever. Anyway, they've had it for a long time.
Now we're finally getting here. But only the west side
of Cincinnati has it, where it's a lot and hasn't
really shown up as much. On the east or northern
(11:10):
part of Cincinnati. We're seeing a few here and there,
but not like on the west side where the box
tree moth is more on the east side and I
haven't seen any so far on the west side. So
they'll all cross cross paths. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the
spot of the area in the west side.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
We got them things, all the things on the east side,
and they like come in and they it's kind of
like the Jets and the sharks.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, but that spotted lanternfly, you just touch that thing
and it springs straight up in here.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You're like, oh wow, yeah, yeah, kill that thing.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah. So yeah, it's uh. When they get in mass numbers,
they can they don't kill trees, but they can sure
weaken them and turn them black because of the honeydew
that poop.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Uh have you seen them yet here? You're ard not
in my yard. I haven't seen any Uh. The fall
checklist is post print it up, good, mark it off,
good rita is making moonshine. And I'm saving this recipe
because I think I'm gonna do someone I get back from.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Vacation additional purposes. Only sure we'll go with that. It's
it's it's apple flavored, right, yep. Yeah, So an opt
to send that rescued to doctor Armitage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because we we'll need it for them from when we
get sick this.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah. And so you take a sip of that, You've
got the warm apple and the warmness of the other
stuff alcohol. Yes, and that just makes you feel better,
of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes. And the plant of the week is the bald cypress.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Bald cypress. It's time to plant trees. It's fall. It's
plant trees. That's one that everybody you know, you see them.
You're gonna see a lot of them next week, yep.
Down in Florida. But then it's like, you know, to
believe or not, they grow just about anywhere and everywhere,
very tough and hardy and street tree, lawn tree, it's
big tree. Although there's some new varieties of state narrow,
(13:00):
but bald cypress is a great choice for that evergreen look.
But do remember they drop those needles in the fall
and then they come back out in the springtime. It's
amazing people don't realize that. And don redwood, which is
I'll give you the hint that's our next week. But
they dropped their needles in the fall, and I get
these calls. We planted this in the june, and all
(13:20):
of a sudden, all the leaves are turning a bright
red and they're starting to fall off the tree. What
did we do wrong? You did everything right. That's what
it's supposed to hear. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
All right. Well, I will catch you in Joe's on
the flip side in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Good, have a great time. I know you will find
that hammock, that beach chair, and that pool boy ye fingers,
and the little in the barstool in the middle of
the brook with the umbrella in it. You don't do that,
I might might, okay, fine, pineapple, little coconut.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yep, maybe some apple, maybe some moonshine freedom uh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Would bring some body for us to take have fun.
You you I know you will, all right, Relax man,
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Welcome back here in the guide with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. I got about two minutes to go,
so let's go right to South Carolina. Harry, Good morning
morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hi are you Harry.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm doing great in yourself.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Uh, let's get to it. Japanese beetles they come out
in June.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, they're on June bug. That's correct. Well, there are
there are.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They look like Japanese boodles. They come up in late June.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Uh, I've been doing for me. And they attack my
maple tree in the front yards, three year old tree,
do some damage here. He looks ugly. Wife wants to
cut it down and put a palm tree in there.
I don't want to. I want to save the tree.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I've been people that are telling me I can put
something in the yard in September to get rid of
the larva.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, actually the best time is in the spring. And
it's it's a grub is it. Yeah, it's called a
grub preventor, and and and uh there's grub ax and
then there's grub stop, so make sure you know which
one you're getting. There are grub killers and they are
a grub preventor. So when you go to the local
garden center, say I'm looking for a grub preventter, and
(19:02):
typically that's applied, usually anytime May early June. All right, Now,
what happens is the beetles that are the grubs that
are already in the soil. They're there. They're gonna hatch
out in the next year, and they're gonna be adults
and they're gonna, you know, come out and do their thing.
But what you're doing putting it down next spring is
stopping the ones from the future on from that point forward.
(19:25):
So you're still gonna get some beetles, all right, but
but you're you're working for twenty twenty seven. Now, what
you're talking about is actually June or May beetles, which
are kind of just a copper brown, and Japanese beetles
have more of an there.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, these are more decorative. They look
like Japanese beetles, and the pictures I've been seeing online.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well then it could be. But either one will feed
on the folies. But yeah, that's that is the best shot.
Keep listening to the show. We come back from the break.
I will continue talking about grub control and beetle control
and help you out as much as I can. Man
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Speaker 1 (21:57):
Talking to your army at eight hundred two three eight
two five five, good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking there before we went into the break.
Lexington and South Carolina, a beautiful little town by the way.
About grub control and Japanese beetles. There are many different
types of beetles and many different types of grubs. The
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grubs obviously are where the beetles come from in the soil.
Then they hatch out in the springtime and then continue
to fly around devour some of your leaves and the flowers,
and then make lay the eggs back into the turf,
and then you know the season's over. And if you
looked at a chart right now, and typically most of
them come out, and there's all, like I said, all
(22:41):
different kinds. I think Jesus State of Ohio. I they've
got so many different types. But that's the way they
all pretty much. The life cycle is for all of them,
and most of them start to come out sometime in
mayish through June, even into July. And we've had Japanese
beetles here in July with no problem. But June bugs
(23:03):
may may beetles, June beetles, Asian beetles, Japanese Beetles've got
a whole bunch of them. Anyway, the goal is to yes,
go after the grubs, but typically we only go after
the grubs if we have serious turf problems because they
do feed on debris and the turf root systems in
(23:27):
the soil, and when you start to have turf problems,
that's typically when we go in and treat for grubs
for grub control. Now, if you have really high populations
of beetles flying into because they can fly into your yard,
there's a good chance there's going to be some grubs
in your yard as well. So when do you treat,
Remember that they lay eggs in the summer. Those eggs
(23:50):
go through several phases. By fall, they're a very small grub.
They're still feeding. In September, it's all weather pending September
early October, u are still feeding a little bit. They're small,
and then as the temperatures get cooler, they drop down
into the soil for overwintering, all right, They overwinter deep
in the soil, and in the springtime when it starts
(24:11):
to warm up, they start to move back up to
the top. They're fat and sassy at that point. Not
a lot of feeding. Typically rarely any damage in the
springtime because the lawn is so actively growing, and then
they hatch out become adults, whatever their time period happens
to be. So grub control is two things. One is
the preventer is typically the best, and that's applied sometime
(24:34):
in our area typically mid to late May, June, July,
even into early August. Get it in, you got to
water it in. Well, that's a key, and once that
gets in there, then that helps to prevent them from growing.
So you catch them, you nip it in the bud.
So Barney would say, you nip it in the bud,
(24:54):
right then, So they lay those eggs. Done deal, and
that lasts typically about ninety das, so it carries you
if you put it first to Junie at June, July,
and August, all right, so keep that in mind as well,
so you know, that's why sometimes we'll back off till
about the first or mid June to make sure it
carries into the later part of the summer. If by chance,
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you have had a lot of beetle problems and you
had grub problems, and grub problems starting can show up
on your lawn in September from those grubs feeding already,
you can go in in September and even early October
again depending on the weather, and use a grub killer,
and that would be a product that you would apply
(25:36):
that again you get a water do in well that
kills the grubs that are there right then or within
about a two week period now some of them say
at twenty four hour or a grub control. Yeah, someone
can work that quickly, but over a two week period
or so. So you could go after them if you
know you have them in September and early October by
(25:58):
applying that, getting it watered in and actually killing the
grubs while they're still at the top of the surface
feeding on those roots all right. Otherwise you can wait
until we get back into the spring season and then
apply that. Like I said, in our area, it's typically
June July, even early August sometime in there for the
preventter which takes care of those young eggs as they're
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laying their eggs throughout the summer season and into yea
into early September. But June, July and August is when
we typically apply that. So you got two ways to
go after it. And that doesn't stop all of them.
They fly distances to come in and feed, so you'll
still get that. But that will obviously reduce the populations
in your turf, cut down on any turf issues that
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you're having, and should help to reduce some of the
populations that are flying out there as well. I do
not recommend using Japanese beetle traps. Japanese beetle traps attract them,
as research has been done. I don't know why. Sometimes
I don't know why garden centers still sell Japanese beetle traps.
Research is done. It in many cases, you draw more
(27:02):
Japanese beetles to that trap and you can't catch them
all because it fills up so quickly then you would
have gotten had you not put the trap out there.
And the pheromone or hormones that are pheromones that are
in that trap too tract the beetles to your yard.
If anything, you would buy beetle traps and put them
in your neighbor's yard so they go to your neighbor's yard.
But you really don't want to use those unless you
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can get them way away from your house and maybe
try to attract the beetles further away from your home.
That's a possibility. But again and for around the landscape,
I have found you know, you can cover plants up
with cheese cloth or whatever for two or three weeks
during the heavy feeding time. I've also found it getting
up in the morning or in the evening and hosing
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off plants that have the beetles feeding on them causes
them to fly away go somewhere else. And amazing how
you can minimize damages there. Actually spraying with an insecticide.
You could spray every day and not even under control.
So no, we don't really recommend a lot of insecticidal sprays.
But again, the grub control grub killers in the summer
(28:09):
or late summer like September ish October, and then the
grub preventers usually late May, but June, July and early August.
And that's the way you take a look at those
and good luck with it. To Glendale we go. David,
good morning, Good morning, Ron. How are you. I'm good
house with the lawn seating.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Hey, well, I'm about ready to go. Call you up
a few weeks ago, and you told me to buy
some turf type tall sescue right now, I've gone out
and looked around for it. I went down Ready and
Feed and Seed. I went into minors and I can't
(28:48):
find it. Where can I.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Find Ready Seed doesn't have turf type tall rescue.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, I'm gonna look again, because I was in and
out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, I'm gonna they. I'm pretty sure that they usually
handle something. Just tell them you're looking for turf type
tall rescue. That's what you're looking for. And I sometimes
they'll sell it as a single like just like fine
lawn tall rescue. Most of the time it's sold in
a blend, and I like the blends better than the
single stand. But just tell them turf type tall rescue,
(29:19):
that's the grassed you're looking for. If they don't have it,
you know, look at something that white Oaks got it. Nay,
turf's has it, Sharon Nursery. I mean most of the
garden centers I know have the turf type tall rescues
because it's becoming one of the most popular grasses used
in our area.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Now regarless grass will go, will grow straight up and
down right.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, it's a yeah, it's a great turf. And again
they call it turf type because it's like a second
cousin the Kentucky fescue which you see along the expressway.
But it's a desirable uh with as far as the blades,
the height that it gets, et cetera, et cetera. So
it's a good, excellent grass for turf.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Okay, now I'm probably gonna do it this week. How
long can I go? Can I Can I plant the
seed in October or November?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Once you get we try to get it in September.
And and the way it's looking right now, we've been dry,
so folks have been holding off a little bit. Looks
like good rainfall next week. So I'm looking to jump
in there this weekend and get some things done anticipating
some rainfall. Next week, getting moisture back in the ground.
It's nice to get that up and growing. So the
sooner you can get that seeded, the quicker it is
(30:30):
going to come up. Last year, it stayed warm so
late that you know a lot of folks that's seated
in mid to late October still got the grass to
come up and looking pretty good. But you want to
get it in as soon as you can to give
it a chance to get up, start to root in, growing,
et cetera, et cetera. So by the time we get
to the first of December, it's looking pretty darn good.
At that point. Once we get to end of November
(30:50):
and December, it now becomes dormant seeding, which then it
is lays there until next spring.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Okay, you know, ron, I hit literally manually pulled out
all the crab grass, the broad leaf clover, and weeds,
all different kinds of weeds. My yard, My front yard
was a worse front yard on the street. So that's
where I'm going. I got it. I got it all
(31:18):
out and I killed it. Pulled weed, pulled all the
roots out down deep. You would think of nuts.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, I don't think you're nuts. I think it's great.
I'm glad you did it, and I think you know
what's gonna happen now. And I'm being honest when I
say this, when you if you get back in there
and we can get that grass seed down and the
starter fertilizer and get that up and growing next spring
you and maybe by the end of the fall, but
next spring for sure and going in the summer, you
won't have the worst looking lawn out there. You'll have
(31:47):
a much better looking lawn. And it just gets better
and better as it continues to mature.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
All right, well, I appreciate your.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Turn straight front, David. Keep us posted now you don't
want to hear what how everything goes for quick break,
we come back. I got lots of tips to sharing course.
Taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five coming up the top of the hour.
Kevin O'Dell And you've heard Kevin on our show many times,
true plantsman, landscape designer, really knows this stuff. Well, there's
(32:15):
a there's a disease that's affecting deer in our area
in other states as well, and it doesn't affect us,
but it does affect them. Kevin wants to let everybody
know about it. In case you see deer in your
yard that are acting a little different, that's what it
is and we want to know about it and report
it and all of that. But then we're going to
talk with Kevin. Okay, so what do you do as
an expert landscape designer and installer to keep the deer
(32:37):
out of your great landscapes? How do you handle that?
You should have some good tips from Kevin coming up
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Got your fall checklist on there for you. You can
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print that out and then kind of work your way
through doesn't apply to all lawns in the in the
air and the areas around us, but most of them.
So you can kind of use that as a checklist
as you go through the fall season, making sure you
get things taken care of before we get into the winter.
And by the way, I was at a buying show
this week in Cleveland, Ohio, the BFG Show, and that's
where independent garden centers go and see all the new
(35:28):
products that are coming along, order the products for next year.
You know that type of thing, And it always kills
me when on the I look on the bag is
a fertilizer and it says, you know, the winteriser, getting
your lawn ready for the winter. It's like, wait a minute,
I'm not getting it ready for the winter. I'm getting
it ready for next spring. I'm building on it for spring.
And you know, sometimes that winterriser thing can be kind
(35:50):
of confusing. It's just you need to feed the lawn
twice in the fall. That's just the cool season grasses,
not warm season. And typically a lot of times what
we are using in the beginning of the fall is
the same thing we use at the end of the fall,
which can also be the same thing we're using in
the springtime. Yes, so don't let that kind of fool
you and I just kind of always laugh and I
look at that because we're actually building up our lawns
(36:12):
for the how it looks in the fall, and it's
going to look great. You know, it's going to go
through the winter just fine, and then it comes out
in the springtime and look even better. That's why what
you do in the fall for cool season turf is
the backbone to how well that lawn is going to
perform in the spring and obviously coming through the winter,
but it's you know, we're working on the next spring
and summer and going into the next fall. So do
(36:34):
keep that in mind. And by the way, I was
talking about the pre emergent or the well, I could
have been talking about pre emergent oversides, but the grub
preventors and the grub killers and putting down the grass seed,
you know, the lawn renovation, planting. You know, the whole
thing that comes back to is water. Water is the
key to the success of what all the things that
(36:55):
you're doing out there. Proper watering and you know, core
air rating. You got to have moisture in the ground
or you can't core air rate. You may have to
water two or three days in advance, come back in
core air rate. Then come back and do what you're
gonna do, and then get the sprinkler backs set up
to get some good even moisture in there. You've got
to water things in. You've got to water in pre
emerged oversides. You've got to water in grub killers, you've
(37:18):
got to water in grub preventters. You've got to water
in those newly planted trees and shrubs and for them
keep them watered as we go through the fall and
right up to the holiday season. So important. And right
now we're in a pretty serious drought in the state
of Ohio. I mean, it's dry out there, modern drought,
light drought. We got all the droughts that we're looking at.
(37:41):
And hopefully we're gonna get some rainfall coming in here
and cooler temperatures next week, but you can't count on that.
So you've got to make sure you're watering. And that's
where I'm thinking it may be something you look at
the investment somewhere down the road of installing an irrigation
system into your lawn that you would use manually, and
(38:01):
it could be into the landscape as well, but into
the lawn that you operate manually. You hearst the last
weekend talk at the talking with a good friend, Gary Sullivan,
who is the home improvement expert. And Gary's got a
great irrigation system, but rarely is it on a timer.
The only time he would ever put it on a
timer is if he was going to be out of
town for a couple of weeks and he looks down
(38:22):
the scheduled and it doesn't look like it's going to
rain for two weeks. He may put it on a
timer to water once while he's gone. But you know,
he does that manually, so it's not running all the time.
You just turn it on when you need to be watering.
But it really helps you to keep everything looking good.
Watering timely watering. You're not dragging hoses around everywhere. I
(38:45):
would be dragging the hoses for the landscape, but I
wouldn't be dragging the hoses for the turf. So think
about down the road. Would an irrigation system be good
for your lawn and the way that you you know,
you garden as well, so you might want to keep it.
Take a look at that. It just seems like that's
been a trend more and more of dry falls going
(39:07):
into the fall season and through the fall. And if
that is I think it may really come in handy
for you. But again, watering, proper watering is key, is
key to so many things that we do in our
yards and gardens, and we've got to make sure we
and sometimes it can be hard to figure that one
out in some cases, especially watering newly planted trees and
(39:28):
shrubs is a two wet is it too dry? Im
I getting enough water in there? That's why, you know,
my general rule of thumb is soak the heck out
of it. Don't just slightly soak water till the hole
fills up and water's running out of the hole and
I'll cross to the top of the soil. Soak it
really well, give it time to get close to drying out.
Soak it really well. If you do that, you know
(39:50):
you got it made. And that that pretty much applies
to container gardening, raise bed gardening, hanging basket gardening, house
plant gardening. That's typically what you're looking to do. There
are some plants that like good even moisture. Otherwise that
really does work for you. And by the way, as
we are now going into the fall season. I do
(40:11):
want to remind you there's a few things that we
actually stop doing at this stage rather than continuing to do.
The one is heavy pruning. You really don't want to
encourage any new growth on woody trees and shrubs and
evergreens at this stage in the game. You want them
to harden off, stop growing, get ready for the now.
You want them to get ready for the winter season.
(40:32):
So you know, heavy pruning, heavy cutbacks. If you got
to do that, save it for late in the fall
after the plants have gone dormit, or do it in
the spring, late winter, early spring before they start to
leaf back out again. Spring flowering plants, of course, you
would wait till they flower and then you cut them
back at that time. But we don't want to encourage
new growth right now, So don't do heavy shearing, hand pruning,
(40:53):
clipping a few pieces out here and there, whole branch
removal not an issue. Keep at that, But don't heavily
prune trees and shrubs at this stage, all right. Don't
heavily apply fertilizers right now, except for like root stimulants.
Planting new trees and shrubs. Back off on that right now, now,
applying all natural fertilizers that are like a four to
(41:16):
two one. You can get by with that. But for
the most part, we don't want to apply a lot
of fertilizer right now because again we're not encouraging new growth.
Container gardens with the annuals. Different story. Hanging basket with annuals,
different story. Yeah, we're going to continue to feed those,
but for the most part, for the rest of it,
we're going to back off. You could come back later
in the fall as they start to shut down and
(41:39):
give them a little feeding. The nestlomen going into the
winter season of light feeding, and in many cases with evergreens,
if you insist on feeding in the late fall, it's
about half the normal rate. Most of the time. Spring
them is one of your better times for feeding. But again,
don't do that, all right, and stop deadheading roses all right,
(41:59):
they want to harden off as well. By leaving those
old flowers on there, it helps to tell them to
stop growing, start to harden off and get ready for
the winter season, right And don't rush to cut back
most of those perennials right now. If they're fifty percent green,
leave them alone if you can. They're still supplying a
nutrients back to the root system, and in some cases
you want to leave those flowers on there for seeds
(42:21):
for later, and some of the stems as well for
wildlife for later as well. We'll talk more about that
as we go through the fall season. All right, quick break,
we come back. Mister Kevin O'Dell's going to join us.
We're going to talk about a little deer issue that's
going on in our area other states as well, and
then he's going to give us some tips on landscaping
without a lot of deer damage here in the garden
with Ron Wilson.
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