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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yard you don't forget our
website at Ron Wilson online dot com. And I have
so much fun when we have our bee keepers on
the show. Of course, Barbie Bletcher has been on with
us so many times over all these years, keeping us
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up to a date with the with the b situation,
not only in Ohio but all around the country. And
she's a part of a trio. I call them the
Three Stingers. And the other two are Teresa Parker and
Nina Begley and what's it. And they're all beekeepers and
very unique ladies. And trust me, if you ever want
to attract a crowd at your business or your party,
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have these three show up at your business or party
and they will draw in a huge crowd because they
are so entertaining. But nevertheless, it's always fun to have
Nina on because Nina is actually a queen bee breeder.
As a matter of fact, she's a professional designer, seamstress,
master beekeeper. She's been doing this for over twenty two years.
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Specializes in urban beekeeping and raising Queen Bees. Obviously, she's
an author for the Bee Culture magazine and she created
If you're a beekeeper, you may be interested in this.
She designed and created the Winter Beehive cover to help
protect hives from the harsh winters and wins in the
Ohio and have every need you know, everything needed to
help keep the bees warm and happy and keep you
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successful as well. You can go to her website Ohio
queenbee dot com. That's Ohio queenbee dot com. And Nina
Bagley is with us this morning. Good morning, ma'am, good morning.
Oh your fans. Did you know you had that many fans?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No? I feel like Rita.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now Rita. Rita has a lot of fair Everybody loves Rita.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yes, I know I'm following our footsteps.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm loving it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, hey, listen, seriously, glad you got you on this morning,
uh to talk about a very interesting thing that from
one of the slides shows you or Sliza you sent
me this week on the text. But first of all,
I want to so people understand, you know, you're not
only a bee keeper, and of course you do. You
still do like the Ohio State House and that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, I'm still the Franklin County be inspector, and I
still have bees around Columbus, Ohio in the area.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
All right, so so heavily involved obviously, but you all
so are a queen breeder. So briefly, kind of explain
to folks what is a queen breeder.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, I'm actually not like I raise queens, okay, and
I have very good stock up queens, so I breed
them in the spring and sell them, and the same
with with my nukes. I just have very good stock
that I developed over the years and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, you know, do do queen, So it's not a
queen breeder, it's just you just you raise.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Queen because I raise queen.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Joe Lackshaw would be the breeder, doctor Lashaw, and he
artificially inseminates them. Yes, I am a breeder off of
my stock, so yes, I would say I am oka.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So you do it all basically, is what it boils
down to. Yeah, So how many of these queen bees
do you raise every year for other people?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, this year I did probably about forty. I didn't
do that many. But what I've been doing, I had
told you before I'm starting these classes in the spring,
teaching people how to raise their own queens so that
they can be sustainable, so that they don't have to
rely on queen people to sell them queens that they
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don't know what the genetics are, so they can be
substainable and grasped off of a good stock that they
have a right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So somebody's listening saying, okay, great, so how how do
I How do I develop a queen bee from the
bees that I have right now?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You would have to graft. So if you have a
good hive that survives, say two years, and does very well,
her genetics are probably good, so you would probably want
to grasp off of her, and you would go in
and take a frame and grasp from her day old eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What does that mean? From her?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You're taking a tool and you're going into the cells
and pulling out a day old egg two days old
and putting it into a cell cup and then putting
it on a bar, and then you put that into
a hive that is queenless. And because with a lot
of nurse bees and because they know they're queenless, they'll
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start making cells for you and you'll have a bunch
of those peanut shells going across the bar if you
grafted the larvae the right state.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Dumb question for you, Anina, how do you know that
the hive you're working with is a queenless hive?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, because she's probably really mean and she's probably roaring,
and when you go in, they're running and scattered and
you don't see any brood or any eggs. So that
would be my first indication that this is this hive
is queenless. So I would go take some brood from
another hive that I have with eggs and larvae on
it and put it in there to calm her down.
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So now they think they've got a queen in there,
and they're calmed down until you can put a new
queen in got it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So, so when you put those in the new hive,
then do the workers automatically tend to them as as
the new queens?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
The cell?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, yeah, if I put this cell in the in
the hive, they'll finish it off until she comes out
and they'll take care of her until she gets made it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is that the royal jelly that you're always talking about
that they feed them?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, they'll feed her the royal jelly. They she'll get
most of the royal jelly. They decide which one wants
to become the queen, and they feed her the royal jelly,
and that's what develops her into the queens.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She gets more of the royal jelly.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Got it? So if I came to, you know, and
the winter is over and I'm inspecting my hives, I've
either lost everything or I don't have a queen. So
I get a hold of Nina Bagley and I say, Nina,
I need a new queen. What do I get? What
do I get from you? An actual queen? And how
do I get it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You actually get a really cool, wonderful, big beautiful queen
with five attendants and a little cage and a tiny
little plastic cage with a tube on it that has
sugar fond it packed in it so that when you
put it in the hive, the bees in the hive
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will start eating that sugar from one end of that
little plastic cage. And the bees inside the cage are
tending to the queen and they're also eating the sugar,
and they're smelling her pheromonte and they're getting to like her.
So when she does release and come out, they'll start
caring for her and taking care of her, And.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So the bee keeper determines when they release her from
the cage.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well with the tube is probably about an inch long,
sort of take about two to three days for them
to eat through that sugar. Now, if it's a really mean, mean,
mean hive, they might kill her.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So I usually put a piece of.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Tape on the end of it so they can't get.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
To that sugar too fast. Follow me.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I want them to get to know her better, so
to understand her pheromone better, and then I'll come take
the tape off and then let them have their four
days to release her. And usually she's released better than
if I just would have thrown her into a mean,
mean hot hive.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh my gosh, I'm a leebel will when I get
to talk to you and Barb and Teresa, I learned,
I mean, I hear this stuff. And it's just phenomenal
the way these bees work. And of course that you
guys know them like the back of your hand, being.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I'll never know them like that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We still have a lot to.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Learn, I know, but you do know a lot about them,
and all three of you do, and it's great that
you share the information that you do know, and you're right,
you know. I continue to learn, and it seems like
you guys always present new information as we do in
this industry, in the gardening industry as well, you learn
something new all the time. And I know with the
bee keeping, you know that new research and new studies
are going on, which is rightfully so to learn more
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about them and of course to protect them from the
mites and et cetera, et cetera. But this queen bee thing,
raising queen bees to give to other people, to sell
to other people just phenomenal. I just that's crazy how
that works. Anyway, you've been sending me this fall, you've
been sending me and you've been posting on YouTube. I
guess that the videos of you harvesting the honey and
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Teresa and all of you harvesting honey. It's been extremely warm,
sweating your butt off to get this honey out of there.
It seems like you had a really good honey crop
this year.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I did, but I won't now until the spring. It's
kind of an interesting year because usually in August and
September we're in a dirt and we're feeding our bees
sugar water to get them ready for the winner and
giving them room so that they can lay enough winter
bees to make it through the winter. But this year,
towards the end of July, when I'm getting them ready
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for winter, I noticed they were bringing in this really
thick honey like my lasses, really really different, different flavor,
different color, and I mean hoarding it. I couldn't keep
up with them, and I didn't know what it was
because I've never don't seen it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But when I don't tell us inspection, don't tell us.
We're going to save that for after the break.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I won't, okay, right, But when I was going inspections,
I started noticing it in central Ohio. Got it, and
it's keeping me, keeping me busy.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you have been now. You sent me a picture
last week where you made one of your hives a
little upset in arc can be defensive even though you
take care of them. And you got stung a few times.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, I had the wrong socks on. Apparently, Yes, it
was awful. I think my right leg they nailed me
about twenty five times, my left ankle about fifteen, and
they actually bruised me and put big ol' welts on me.
But I believe in APPA therapy for sure. Now because
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I was walking after I got stung. So there's something
to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, so I got I get this picture with all
these beast things, and she says, but the good thing
about it is my knees don't hurt and my legs
don't hurt, and I feel great.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So I do it again.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I guess I'll do it again. If it's going to
make me feel this good, I will pass on that one.
I don't know something about that. All right, we're gonna
did it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It made you feel good?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, okay, I want to let I'll believe you and
I'll save that for you. Anyway, let's take a break
and we come back. Nina was talking about this unusual honey.
She sent me a picture. This has said. Any idea
what this she knew? But any idea where this came from?
Very unusual a source of nectar to make this late
honey in the season. We'll find out what it is
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after the break. Talking with Nina Begley her website, Ohio
queenbee dot com. Here in the Garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're
talking with Nina Bagley. She is an urban beekeeper and
of course she is specialized in raising queen bees as well.
Got stung multiple times last week because she wore the
wrong socks. I can't believe you did that, but said,
when it was all said and done and she stopped crying,
she walked better. So there you go. More proof about
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the stinging of bees. No, I don't recommend it fun.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, now, I think that people on the highway got
a kick of watching me roll around in the field.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Uh, that would have been fun. So when you when
you and Teresa and Barbie get together and you're collecting honey,
you're doing whatever you're doing. You guys just laugh the
whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I can imagine all the time. I can imagine. I
can't No, I can't imagine being a I just someday, someday.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Barb with her dry says a humor.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, I can I can only imagine anyway, go ahead,
out of your mouth. Yeah, exactly. Uh, talking with you baguely,
ohioqueenbead dot com is her website. Be sure and check
it out. So Nina sent me a picture this past
week and they've been collecting this honey and it's a
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really unusual looking dark colored honey, told me, she said,
even as a somewhat of a smoky flavor to it,
and trying to figure out where it came from. So
folks understand, when the bees go out and collect the
nectar that they make the honey with, depending on what
flowers are collecting it from, does help to determine what the
flavor of the honey is going to be. In the
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color of the honey, right, right. So when they were
like when black black black locusts are in flower, you
guys kind of like it when black locusts are in flower, right,
that's a really sweet, great honey. Yes, and like I'm yea.
I liked the darker honey, so you know, collecting up
for the darker honey almost tastes like sorghum. I love that. Well,
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this one looks the same way. So not sure where
it came from. So Nina did little investigation and what
did you find out?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, it was quite interesting. In August, I pulled it
off and it tasted like the buckwheat molasses, maple dried fruit,
very citrusy, but very very very smoky. So I called
around and started asking questions, and I found out that
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if I had spotted lantern fly in my area, it
is most likely the honeydew from the spotted lantern fly.
Now I wouldn't have believed it, but I had seen
it the week before I spoke to these people, and
I just thought wow. So I called Robin Underwood. Barb
told me to call Robin Underwood at the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania
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University of Pennsylvania. They've been dealing with it since twenty fourteen,
and she said, you know, that's probably.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
What it is.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So I called Ohio State and they said, you know,
they noticed something strange in their hives. So we started
taking samples. Tia at Ohio State is gonna she sampled
it out, and yeah, we have the spotted lantern fly, honeydew,
honey and columbus. Now I'm finding it more prevalent in
the city here than like in Hilliard, up our Arlington
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in those places. But it's coming. It's actually fair grounds yea, yeah,
we've got it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I mean southern Ohio. I mean, it's really spread throughout
the state, and of course it's moving its way across
the Midwest and everybody's going to wind up seeing this
thing down the road. And it's probably one of the
most beautiful insects that you can see them as gorgeous insects.
But like I've always told folks, it's like an epho
on steroids. So they produced a tremendous amount of honey honeydew,
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which is a sweet spotted lantern fly poop. So the
bottom line is the bees, it is kind of it's
their excrement.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Don't call poop.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I know, but I thought it was kind of funny
because it's s you know, the slf s spotted lighterfly poop,
and they're turning it into really cool honey from the
spotted lanternfly. So we got this thing coming through that
we don't like having. But guess who's taking advantage of it,
and that would be the honey bees and making honey,
especially late in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yes, yes, and now it could be a double ed sword.
I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's good because
I don't have to feed my bees where most beekeepers
are putting sugar water on their bees now. But the
problem is they bring it in their hoarders. They bring
it in so fast they're filling up my food space
for her to make winter bees. And because of the
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fact that they they bring this honeydew back and they
converted the bees converted into the to the honey, they.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Take out some of the sugars, so.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It has a high ass content and it's a little
bit more watery. So I hope my bees don't get dysentery.
That's one of the effects that can happen, and I
would have to I've got to keep an eye on that,
so I don't I'll know in the spring, but for
the bee keepers out there, if it's coming your way,
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you really have to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And it's called a spotted lantern flight. Of course, you
can find information about that on our website. You can
go to the ODA the byg L dot OSU dot
e du learn more about it. Of course we talked
about it on our show as well. But I just
thought that was so interesting that that spotted lantern fly.
I'm sorry, poop turned into a great honey, Dina Bangley,
always a pleasure. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Right, I'm gonna give you some poofs and a jaw.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm looking forward to it here in the garden with
Ron Wilson help.
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Speaker 1 (21:31):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
yes he is with us again. We are so privileged
I have this young man join us here in the garden.
I'm not going to go through the long introduction because
you know who I'm talking about. He's a renowned horticulturist
and author. He's written a million different books. He's got
a new one I think coming out maybe shortly, and
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Did just Great Garden Plants by the One the Only
Ladies and Gentlemen, Doctor Alan Apple Armonade.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, good morning.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Your fan base just gets bigger and bigger every time
you're on this show.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
The it have something to do with you, Ron, How
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I am great? The question is have you gotten over
the jet lagger? Dos that happen?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Even in.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh? It definitely happens? And the answer is a unqualified
maybe qualified no. I am. I got up this morning
at four o'clock because that's I just got in. I
don't know last night, two nights ago. And but anyway,
it's the way it is. I sound kind of croaky
Horsey and all that other stuff, but life is good
and I'm standing here looking at my garden. Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I thought you. I thought you. I thought you sounded
the same.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I feel a whole lot better than I sound, in
case anybody out there wonders. Anyway, it's where I'm so
happy to be home and happy to be speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
By the way, the doc was touring on up and
down the Danube for the last ten days. So how
was the weather.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
The weather was actually quite warm, and we had lovely
If you're traveling, you don't want rain. If you have
a garden, you do. But so we had a really
wonderful almost two weeks. We spent some time in Munich
at the beginning, spent some time in Budapest at the end,
and had a nice seven day cruise down the Danube.
So it was very lovely. But it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know, probably no apples were involved in, no alcohol involved.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
All right, tell you what you're in Germany or Austria
or Slovenia. Apples strudel run. I mean the apple strudel
was well, apple scrutle, that's the way it's supposed to be.
So it was great, and of course, you know, casual
boss of wine just to wash down the scrudle it.
Of course, we're very fortunate. It was a very fine,
(23:56):
very fine trip.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Good well, we're glad to have you back. And I
wasn't sure I hated even Buggy last night because I
was like, did you make it back, okay, just want
well that you know.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Like anybody who travels if'icually overseas, you know, you're at
the mercy of the airlines. And all we came back
KLM the you know, the Dutch airline, and of course
weren't they going on strike, so we just again dodged
the bullet they wanted to strike the day be four.
We came back and uh got it all taken care of,
I think, so we got back anyway, all as well,
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here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And now you're backing ready to go. So while you're
on a trip like that, I mean, you know, obviously,
mister plants men, do you do you actually take time
to look at the plants in Europe as you're traveling through.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well, you know, the idea is, I'm traveling with my wife,
my four wife, Susan, and my brother and his wife
from outside Toronto, and uh, they don't want to get
too much of this plant stuff, but we did. We
did go to Munich Botanical Garden that was really quite lovely,
uh we And you just can't help with the Europeans
do lots of things. Well I shouldn't say that than anybody,
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but better than certainly we do here with their park plantings,
and they have a lot of pedestrian areas where you know,
shops are, but they're always planted with something. So you know,
I take note of that, and I wish we could
do a bit more of that here. But anyway, yeah,
I do, but I didn't. I didn't sign anything. I
really didn't know. But what I did find is this
(25:21):
stuff makes people happy. And I said, well known fact
did these shops and everything else. If you have plants
out there look nice, people spend more money. There's just
no doubt. So anyway, so that's what I did with
the plant stuff, and I got some I got some
cool things.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Good and I'm sure we're going to hear about them.
And of course you can sign up and get doctor
Armity just newsletter that he sends out. Go to his
website is Alan armitages dot net and get signed up
for that, and then every now and then you'll get
some really cool recommendations on book readings and plants and
places that he's been. And I'm sure we'll learn more
about this this latest trip up and down the Danube
(25:59):
in upcoming. Yeah, and as I learned on your website,
you your new app as a new your app has
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(26:20):
many how many partners you have in that app that
help you out as well. That's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, it's good. We you know what this thing first starting,
This app has been around for a while now. It
just technology is one of these things that you know,
you never keep up with it. So but also so
is information in the garden world. My goodness, gracious ron
As you well know you talk about new plants or
recommended plants, it goes on forever. So I had to
(26:50):
make this app readable otherwise it would be go on forever.
So yeah, I'm updating that kind of stuff as best
I can. And the partners of people who grow the
plants and the people who sell the plants, yeah, they've
been very helpful to So it's it's it's it's to
say it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Even even Maria Zampini.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh my goodness, I love Maria. She's terrific. If you
don't know Maria, it's just as his zam Beanie. She's
terrific and uh, we have a good time to go.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I always call her Zampy. So next time, next next
time you see her, call her Zampy and she'll know
who told you to say that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, I'll be talking with her very soon. I'll let
her know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All right, go ahead, buddy, talking with doctor Allan Armitage again.
His website is Alan Armitage dot net. We're going to
take a break and we come back. While you were gone,
I took a tour of your garden, uh and took
you down. Yeah, and I walked through and chase the
deer away that we're back. And then I picked out
a few plants and I think we're kind of standouts,
(27:50):
and I want to kind of walk you through some
of these and you can explain to folks what they are.
Are you surprised that I walk through your garden?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Nothing about you who surprises me anymore? Wrong? So just
come he comme in if I'm not here. Just you
keep chasing those deer away. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And by the way, you did get the Rita's apple
moonshine recipe.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I did, I did? I appreciate that. Yeah, the apple
and the moonshine, they go well together. I happy to
try that this week. I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We come
back more with doctor Allan Armitage his website Alanormitage dot net.
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Speaker 1 (30:01):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning. The doctor is in the house, Doctor
Alan Apple Armitage. His website is Alan Armitage dot net
and I just got back from a nice trip over
to Europe and it'll be able to share some things
that he's seen over there in a couple weeks with
us as well. Don't forget his app is a gardening app.
It's updated. If you've had it, you need to get
(30:23):
the updated version. It's all of about four ninety nine
so it's a great buye trust me. But it's called
Armitages Great Garden Plants by Alan Armitage and you will
totally enjoy all the information that's on there. So in
a surprise to you, I came down to the Georgia
area and I took a walk through your garden and
chased all the deer away, and I went through and
I kind of took a look, and I said, I'm
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gonna pick some standouts from the Armitage garden. And what's
nice about what you do? And this is kind of
a tip for everybody else. You label everything, even though
you're the doctor. You label everything that's in your garden.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Except the ones that the deer, squirrels, chipmunks and anybody
else eat and take away.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And then yeah, take them away from there, chew them up.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So I have no idea what I got here anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
But I thought it was well marked. So I was
able to recognize some of these, and I think most
of them are kind of newer plants. But some of
the standouts I saw as I walked around, And you
can kind of fill the sentence Aptenia, Uh, the golden cascade.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's a plant that nobody knows wrong and it's and well,
probably because it's not that easy to find Atinia. It's
it's a great, you know for those people who like
to do containers and the whole you know, fillers and
thrillers and spillers thing. This is a great spiller. It
falls out of the container and has little red flowers.
But the one you mentioned has golden foliage. I love it.
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I've got it here, I'm looking at it right now.
So a good, good choice. That's one that I wish
we could get into the hands of more people, and
they have to do it online or good Garden Center
will carry it.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We grow that and we do the variegatid variety. I
haven't seen the golden one, but I'll have to take
a look at that one after I saw the one
growing there in your container there. I know you're a
big dahlia fan, and the one I picked out was
venti pink burst.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah not cool. So Dallias' that's some of those plants
that people just love, and they love them mostly for
the cut flower value, the big suckers, and I got
some big suckers in here. I'm sure you saw them.
But that is a dwarf form. I call it almost
like a betting dahlia, and the betting dalias have kind
of been disappointing, especially in an area where it gets
(32:37):
hot and no rain and nadda YadA YadA. Dahlias do
really well with cool temperatures. So this one you just
mentioned that VENTI, this is a new one, and it
was quite quite wonderful. In fact, they do and if
they struggle during the summer bit, they often come back
like really really well in the fall. So that one
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is one that I'm really quite excited because it's a
dwarf form that seems to work. Most others I have
not had that same success with.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So if they turn into let us a little bit
in the summertime with the heat and all, just hang
with it, because they'll come back with them and bud
back up. And I did like the blue salvia right
next to it. I don't know what the variety was,
but I love blue.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Salveay you know, I tell you what salvy is wrong
if you were here and this is of course now
we're in where are we late September again? Some of
these perennial salvius are at their best, but even some
of the annual salvius, any of the blue salvius, I say,
any of the most of the blue Salvi's are perennial
and they look good, but they also flower like crazy
in the fall. And I don't know if you saw
(33:38):
the yellow one called the Forciitius Sage, but the Forciitius
Sage is an annual. But oh my goodness, wrong, it's
going through the roof right now. And uh and it's
just it's ForCity because it's yellow, but it's it's it's
a good four or five feet tall here, but it's
taken over there. It's it's taken over meaning visually it's
taken over the garden because it's so pretty right now.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Why was it's like the Victoria that light blue and
the annual here? But I have had her over winter
and pop back up in the roots again in the springtime.
Kind of a tough plant, but man, the pollinators absolutely
loving that. Oh absolutely, you had great, great selections there.
I know you're you like more of the paniculatas the
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flocks is that are out there. You've got that Cole
pink growing the series.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, they've done well. Caple is actually relatively new,
what two years for years maybe at most, And they're
I say dwarf meaning knee high. Uh. And they just
stay flower for a long period of time. The thing
about all these flocks is they they tolerate lots of sun,
so if you put them in too much shade, they
still grow, but they don't flower terribly well. So I've
(34:49):
got and in my gardeners you know, he's got a
lot of shade and sun and the thanks of the
regular old garden. So where I happened in the sun,
they've done very very well. I love them. Great plant,
native pollinator thing you can ask for now.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You've been talking a lot about this perennial evergreen for
us and nevergreen for you obviously groundcover type perennial heliboris.
And the icon roses. Yeah, yeah, that thing that things.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, if they had to put up with us for
any time, ron they know that we both love the
Lenten roses, and the new Lenten roses compared to the
old Lenton roses, are are They don't receive, they don't
go anywhere, They just get bigger and better. And and
the nice thing about these new ones is the flowers
are straight up. You see them, you don't have to
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bend over, and the foldage stays beautiful essentially all season
and I'm looking at mine right now and they look
very very nice. So ic n Roses is just one
group of them. There's a number of great groups of
helibores that I loved, both for foliage and for flowers.
So yeah, you can't go wrong. And they're gonna flower
(35:57):
early spring. I don't care where you are, Cincinnati, here,
it happens. They're gonna flower early spring as soon as
the temperatures warm up. In fact, they're probably putting on
buds right now. So that's a cool thing about. Yeah,
they're they're really great.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, you just look so good because the foliage right
now looks so nice. And I think that's the interesting
you know, you got the early late winter, early spring colors,
but then the rest of the season the foliage is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, and with most hellebores, they can go downhill the
old ones. And I said, you have nothing wrong with
the old ones. They're just there's better stuff out there.
And so if I'm gonna buy a hellib or, I'll
rather spend the money or something that's, you know, truly.
Perennial three looks good all season, gives me great flowers,
and I can look at it in September I can
look out in April and it's still wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Talking with doctor Allen Apple. Armitage's website is Alan Armitage
dot and ned. Be sure and check it out, and
you can find all of his great books on there
as well, including that Great Garden app Armonage's Great Garden Plants.
Be sure and download that one Mexican giant hissip.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, basically names what the hell's are hissup. It's you know,
some people call it hissop or agustache, which is no easier.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
A lot of people don't know the agustash or as.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I go. But anyway, these have been fairly new. Uh,
and and I think that they're they're really good. Uh.
There's been some bunch of these agustache or hysup or
whatever that has come out for a while. But uh,
you know, you look at some of the new ones
and I really like them, and I you know, they're
(37:37):
still flowering for me right now. And they have that
great fragrance, not so much the flowers but the foliage.
So the so all you got to do is put
them somewhere where you might even brush by them. You say, oh,
I've lent them too close to the path. But then
every time you walk by you get that smell and
it's really good. I really love these things.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And you know you had there's a garden lily grown
off to the side there with the petunias in the front. Look,
the petunias are great and and that kind of hides
the garden lily. Folige. It's u with you know, no flower,
But that's all right. But that's that's the way you
plant things like that.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, I happen to like planting things very very densely.
You do already sort of they duke it out, I guess.
But that garden lily is one called Forever Susan, and
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Of course because it's Susan.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's name. It's named for my good wife. But I
think you'd like it anyway. And it flowers. Well, I've
had it for years and it comes back every year.
That's cool thing too.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I got one like that. I got one more for
you that's really coming on strong. And we were selling
a lot as a fall annual as well. Great show,
and of course that would be straw flowers.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh my goodness, round straw flowers you can sell in
the spring and they look great, but you know, sometimes
they get their native Any of these are natives to
Australia and uh you know they you know, they come
and they go. They are definitely an annual. But I
would think if you put that out in like right now,
they're gonna look fabulous until you get frost. And I
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love the straw flowers are called out of course, and
so you want bring people to the garden and they
get bored and they're yawning, just tell them to touch
the flowers and they almost jump back in surprise because
they truly feel like straw and uh so they're but
they're beautiful plant to take me the yellow one. I
like the yellow one the best, but they're all they're
all lovely.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Is that a petite knockout rose by the yellow one?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, it's it's it's a mini rows. I had that
for years and it really is a good rose.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
How about this particular plant that really stuck out the
blackstone grill?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Woh yeah, I have to get back with that. Now
that I'm home, I'm going to be cooking up a storm.
So we got you know, it's it's that time of year,
right and in Ohio where football is king at times
and certainly down here as well as football season. So
big games this weekend when I get the grill out
and with some smash burgers on there while I enjoy
the garden, enjoy the game.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Don't forget the bacon.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh yeah, can't go wrong with bacon.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Doctor Allen Apple armities with us this morning. Alan armedis
dot net is the website. So last time we talked,
you said something about just kind of threw it out
there that there may be another book in the works
from doctor Armitage.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh boy, yeah, well there there there will be, and
I'm really excited about it. Ron. I sort of asked
you to take a look at the idea. And it's
whenever I give talks and you do too, or whether
people are walking the garden with you or whatever, they
always ask the same questions and they're always confused. The
one thing about gardener's passion and confusion, it just goes
(40:43):
goes together. So I wrote this new book called The
Common Sense Gardeners, and it is Gardening with common Sense,
and it's less than one hundred pages long. And as
they say, one of the least common things is common sense.
So hopefully I've put it down and it's gonna come out.
It's gonna be pre sale, will be before Christmas, but
the book itself probably will come out until January or February. Okay,
(41:05):
but I think people are gonna love it. I think
they really are easy to read, and yeah, hope good
no good ideas and good things to do, common sense.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All your books are easy to read and they're always enjoyable.
So I'm looking forward to it. And again, if you
want to learn more about it, go to his website,
sign up for his newsletter. It's Alan Armitage dot net.
That's Alan Armitage dot net Doctor triple A. Get some
rest and we'll talk to you in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
All right, Ron, thank you so much everybody, and enjoy
the day.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right, take care doctor Allan Armitage again Alan armitage
dot net. Will take a quick break to me come back.
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Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
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website at Ron Wilson online dot com. And I have
so much fun when we have our bee keepers on
the show. Of course, Barbie Bletcher has been on with
us so many times over all these years, keeping us
(00:55):
up to a date with the with the b situation,
not only in Ohio but all around the country. And
she's a part of a trio. I call them the
Three Stingers. And the other two are Teresa Parker and
Nina Begley and what's it. And they're all beekeepers and
very unique ladies. And trust me, if you ever want
to attract a crowd at your business or your party,
(01:15):
have these three show up at your business or party
and they will draw in a huge crowd because they
are so entertaining. But nevertheless, it's always fun to have
Nina on because Nina is actually a queen bee breeder.
As a matter of fact, she's a professional designer, seamstress,
master beekeeper. She's been doing this for over twenty two years.
(01:37):
Specializes in urban beekeeping and raising Queen Bees. Obviously, she's
an author for the Bee Culture magazine and she created
If you're a beekeeper, you may be interested in this.
She designed and created the Winter Beehive cover to help
protect hives from the harsh winters and wins in the
Ohio and have every need you know, everything needed to
help keep the bees warm and happy and keep you
(01:57):
successful as well. You can go to her website Ohio
queenbee dot com. That's Ohio queenbee dot com. And Nina
Bagley is with us this morning. Good morning, ma'am, good morning.
Oh your fans. Did you know you had that many fans?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No? I feel like Rita.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now Rita. Rita has a lot of fair Everybody loves Rita.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yes, I know I'm following our footsteps.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm loving it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, hey, listen, seriously, glad you got you on this morning,
uh to talk about a very interesting thing that from
one of the slides shows you or Sliza you sent
me this week on the text. But first of all,
I want to so people understand, you know, you're not
only a bee keeper, and of course you do. You
still do like the Ohio State House and that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, I'm still the Franklin County be inspector, and I
still have bees around Columbus, Ohio in the area.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
All right, so so heavily involved obviously, but you all
so are a queen breeder. So briefly, kind of explain
to folks what is a queen breeder.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, I'm actually not like I raise queens, okay, and
I have very good stock up queens, so I breed
them in the spring and sell them, and the same
with with my nukes. I just have very good stock
that I developed over the years and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, you know, do do queen, So it's not a
queen breeder, it's just you just you raise.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Queen because I raise queen.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Joe Lackshaw would be the breeder, doctor Lashaw, and he
artificially inseminates them. Yes, I am a breeder off of
my stock, so yes, I would say I am oka.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So you do it all basically, is what it boils
down to. Yeah, So how many of these queen bees
do you raise every year for other people?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, this year I did probably about forty. I didn't
do that many. But what I've been doing, I had
told you before I'm starting these classes in the spring,
teaching people how to raise their own queens so that
they can be sustainable, so that they don't have to
rely on queen people to sell them queens that they
(04:14):
don't know what the genetics are, so they can be
substainable and grasped off of a good stock that they
have a right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So somebody's listening saying, okay, great, so how how do
I How do I develop a queen bee from the
bees that I have right now?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You would have to graft. So if you have a
good hive that survives, say two years, and does very well,
her genetics are probably good, so you would probably want
to grasp off of her, and you would go in
and take a frame and grasp from her day old eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What does that mean? From her?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You're taking a tool and you're going into the cells
and pulling out a day old egg two days old
and putting it into a cell cup and then putting
it on a bar, and then you put that into
a hive that is queenless. And because with a lot
of nurse bees and because they know they're queenless, they'll
(05:18):
start making cells for you and you'll have a bunch
of those peanut shells going across the bar if you
grafted the larvae the right state.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Dumb question for you, Anina, how do you know that
the hive you're working with is a queenless hive?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, because she's probably really mean and she's probably roaring,
and when you go in, they're running and scattered and
you don't see any brood or any eggs. So that
would be my first indication that this is this hive
is queenless. So I would go take some brood from
another hive that I have with eggs and larvae on
it and put it in there to calm her down.
(05:59):
So now they think they've got a queen in there,
and they're calmed down until you can put a new
queen in got it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So, so when you put those in the new hive,
then do the workers automatically tend to them as as
the new queens?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
The cell?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, yeah, if I put this cell in the in
the hive, they'll finish it off until she comes out
and they'll take care of her until she gets made it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is that the royal jelly that you're always talking about
that they feed them?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, they'll feed her the royal jelly. They she'll get
most of the royal jelly. They decide which one wants
to become the queen, and they feed her the royal jelly,
and that's what develops her into the queens.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She gets more of the royal jelly.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Got it? So if I came to, you know, and
the winter is over and I'm inspecting my hives, I've
either lost everything or I don't have a queen. So
I get a hold of Nina Bagley and I say, Nina,
I need a new queen. What do I get? What
do I get from you? An actual queen? And how
do I get it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You actually get a really cool, wonderful, big beautiful queen
with five attendants and a little cage and a tiny
little plastic cage with a tube on it that has
sugar fond it packed in it so that when you
put it in the hive, the bees in the hive
(07:27):
will start eating that sugar from one end of that
little plastic cage. And the bees inside the cage are
tending to the queen and they're also eating the sugar,
and they're smelling her pheromonte and they're getting to like her.
So when she does release and come out, they'll start
caring for her and taking care of her, And.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So the bee keeper determines when they release her from
the cage.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well with the tube is probably about an inch long,
sort of take about two to three days for them
to eat through that sugar. Now, if it's a really mean, mean,
mean hive, they might kill her.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So I usually put a piece of.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Tape on the end of it so they can't get.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
To that sugar too fast. Follow me.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I want them to get to know her better, so
to understand her pheromone better, and then I'll come take
the tape off and then let them have their four
days to release her. And usually she's released better than
if I just would have thrown her into a mean,
mean hot hive.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh my gosh, I'm a leebel will when I get
to talk to you and Barb and Teresa, I learned,
I mean, I hear this stuff. And it's just phenomenal
the way these bees work. And of course that you
guys know them like the back of your hand, being.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I'll never know them like that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We still have a lot to.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Learn, I know, but you do know a lot about them,
and all three of you do, and it's great that
you share the information that you do know, and you're right,
you know. I continue to learn, and it seems like
you guys always present new information as we do in
this industry, in the gardening industry as well, you learn
something new all the time. And I know with the
bee keeping, you know that new research and new studies
are going on, which is rightfully so to learn more
(09:07):
about them and of course to protect them from the
mites and et cetera, et cetera. But this queen bee thing,
raising queen bees to give to other people, to sell
to other people just phenomenal. I just that's crazy how
that works. Anyway, you've been sending me this fall, you've
been sending me and you've been posting on YouTube. I
guess that the videos of you harvesting the honey and
(09:28):
Teresa and all of you harvesting honey. It's been extremely warm,
sweating your butt off to get this honey out of there.
It seems like you had a really good honey crop
this year.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I did, but I won't now until the spring. It's
kind of an interesting year because usually in August and
September we're in a dirt and we're feeding our bees
sugar water to get them ready for the winner and
giving them room so that they can lay enough winter
bees to make it through the winter. But this year,
towards the end of July, when I'm getting them ready
(10:04):
for winter, I noticed they were bringing in this really
thick honey like my lasses, really really different, different flavor,
different color, and I mean hoarding it. I couldn't keep
up with them, and I didn't know what it was
because I've never don't seen it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But when I don't tell us inspection, don't tell us.
We're going to save that for after the break.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I won't, okay, right, But when I was going inspections,
I started noticing it in central Ohio. Got it, and
it's keeping me, keeping me busy.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you have been now. You sent me a picture
last week where you made one of your hives a
little upset in arc can be defensive even though you
take care of them. And you got stung a few times.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, I had the wrong socks on. Apparently, Yes, it
was awful. I think my right leg they nailed me
about twenty five times, my left ankle about fifteen, and
they actually bruised me and put big ol' welts on me.
But I believe in APPA therapy for sure. Now because
(11:09):
I was walking after I got stung. So there's something
to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, so I got I get this picture with all
these beast things, and she says, but the good thing
about it is my knees don't hurt and my legs
don't hurt, and I feel great.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So I do it again.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I guess I'll do it again. If it's going to
make me feel this good, I will pass on that one.
I don't know something about that. All right, we're gonna
did it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It made you feel good?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, okay, I want to let I'll believe you and
I'll save that for you. Anyway, let's take a break
and we come back. Nina was talking about this unusual honey.
She sent me a picture. This has said. Any idea
what this she knew? But any idea where this came from?
Very unusual a source of nectar to make this late
honey in the season. We'll find out what it is
(11:56):
after the break. Talking with Nina Begley her website, Ohio
queenbee dot com. Here in the Garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're
talking with Nina Bagley. She is an urban beekeeper and
of course she is specialized in raising queen bees as well.
Got stung multiple times last week because she wore the
wrong socks. I can't believe you did that, but said,
when it was all said and done and she stopped crying,
she walked better. So there you go. More proof about
(14:29):
the stinging of bees. No, I don't recommend it fun.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, now, I think that people on the highway got
a kick of watching me roll around in the field.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Uh, that would have been fun. So when you when
you and Teresa and Barbie get together and you're collecting honey,
you're doing whatever you're doing. You guys just laugh the
whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I can imagine all the time. I can imagine. I
can't No, I can't imagine being a I just someday, someday.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Barb with her dry says a humor.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, I can I can only imagine anyway, go ahead,
out of your mouth. Yeah, exactly. Uh, talking with you baguely,
ohioqueenbead dot com is her website. Be sure and check
it out. So Nina sent me a picture this past
week and they've been collecting this honey and it's a
(15:25):
really unusual looking dark colored honey, told me, she said,
even as a somewhat of a smoky flavor to it,
and trying to figure out where it came from. So
folks understand, when the bees go out and collect the
nectar that they make the honey with, depending on what
flowers are collecting it from, does help to determine what the
flavor of the honey is going to be. In the
(15:47):
color of the honey, right, right. So when they were
like when black black black locusts are in flower, you
guys kind of like it when black locusts are in flower, right,
that's a really sweet, great honey. Yes, and like I'm yea.
I liked the darker honey, so you know, collecting up
for the darker honey almost tastes like sorghum. I love that. Well,
(16:08):
this one looks the same way. So not sure where
it came from. So Nina did little investigation and what
did you find out?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, it was quite interesting. In August, I pulled it
off and it tasted like the buckwheat molasses, maple dried fruit,
very citrusy, but very very very smoky. So I called
around and started asking questions, and I found out that
(16:39):
if I had spotted lantern fly in my area, it
is most likely the honeydew from the spotted lantern fly.
Now I wouldn't have believed it, but I had seen
it the week before I spoke to these people, and
I just thought wow. So I called Robin Underwood. Barb
told me to call Robin Underwood at the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania
(17:02):
University of Pennsylvania. They've been dealing with it since twenty fourteen,
and she said, you know, that's probably.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
What it is.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So I called Ohio State and they said, you know,
they noticed something strange in their hives. So we started
taking samples. Tia at Ohio State is gonna she sampled
it out, and yeah, we have the spotted lantern fly, honeydew,
honey and columbus. Now I'm finding it more prevalent in
the city here than like in Hilliard, up our Arlington
(17:33):
in those places. But it's coming. It's actually fair grounds yea, yeah,
we've got it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I mean southern Ohio. I mean, it's really spread throughout
the state, and of course it's moving its way across
the Midwest and everybody's going to wind up seeing this
thing down the road. And it's probably one of the
most beautiful insects that you can see them as gorgeous insects.
But like I've always told folks, it's like an epho
on steroids. So they produced a tremendous amount of honey honeydew,
(17:59):
which is a sweet spotted lantern fly poop. So the
bottom line is the bees, it is kind of it's
their excrement.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Don't call poop.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I know, but I thought it was kind of funny
because it's s you know, the slf s spotted lighterfly poop,
and they're turning it into really cool honey from the
spotted lanternfly. So we got this thing coming through that
we don't like having. But guess who's taking advantage of it,
and that would be the honey bees and making honey,
especially late in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yes, yes, and now it could be a double ed sword.
I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's good because
I don't have to feed my bees where most beekeepers
are putting sugar water on their bees now. But the
problem is they bring it in their hoarders. They bring
it in so fast they're filling up my food space
for her to make winter bees. And because of the
(18:52):
fact that they they bring this honeydew back and they
converted the bees converted into the to the honey, they.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Take out some of the sugars, so.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It has a high ass content and it's a little
bit more watery. So I hope my bees don't get dysentery.
That's one of the effects that can happen, and I
would have to I've got to keep an eye on that,
so I don't I'll know in the spring, but for
the bee keepers out there, if it's coming your way,
(19:23):
you really have to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And it's called a spotted lantern flight. Of course, you
can find information about that on our website. You can
go to the ODA the byg L dot OSU dot
e du learn more about it. Of course we talked
about it on our show as well. But I just
thought that was so interesting that that spotted lantern fly.
I'm sorry, poop turned into a great honey, Dina Bangley,
always a pleasure. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Right, I'm gonna give you some poofs and a jaw.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm looking forward to it here in the garden with
Ron Wilson help.
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Speaker 1 (21:31):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, and
yes he is with us again. We are so privileged
I have this young man join us here in the garden.
I'm not going to go through the long introduction because
you know who I'm talking about. He's a renowned horticulturist
and author. He's written a million different books. He's got
a new one I think coming out maybe shortly, and
(21:52):
his gardening Update, which is rated the best gardening app
out there. All right, it's just been updated, so if
you haven't done it, we'll talk more about that as well.
Did just Great Garden Plants by the One the Only
Ladies and Gentlemen, Doctor Alan Apple Armonade.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, good morning.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Your fan base just gets bigger and bigger every time
you're on this show.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
The it have something to do with you, Ron, How
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I am great? The question is have you gotten over
the jet lagger? Dos that happen?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Even in.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh? It definitely happens? And the answer is a unqualified
maybe qualified no. I am. I got up this morning
at four o'clock because that's I just got in. I
don't know last night, two nights ago. And but anyway,
it's the way it is. I sound kind of croaky
Horsey and all that other stuff, but life is good
and I'm standing here looking at my garden. Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I thought you. I thought you. I thought you sounded
the same.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I feel a whole lot better than I sound, in
case anybody out there wonders. Anyway, it's where I'm so
happy to be home and happy to be speaking with you.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
By the way, the doc was touring on up and
down the Danube for the last ten days. So how
was the weather.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
The weather was actually quite warm, and we had lovely
If you're traveling, you don't want rain. If you have
a garden, you do. But so we had a really
wonderful almost two weeks. We spent some time in Munich
at the beginning, spent some time in Budapest at the end,
and had a nice seven day cruise down the Danube.
So it was very lovely. But it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know, probably no apples were involved in, no alcohol involved.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
All right, tell you what you're in Germany or Austria
or Slovenia. Apples strudel run. I mean the apple strudel
was well, apple scrutle, that's the way it's supposed to be.
So it was great, and of course, you know, casual
boss of wine just to wash down the scrudle it.
Of course, we're very fortunate. It was a very fine,
(23:56):
very fine trip.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Good well, we're glad to have you back. And I
wasn't sure I hated even Buggy last night because I
was like, did you make it back, okay, just want
well that you know.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Like anybody who travels if'icually overseas, you know, you're at
the mercy of the airlines. And all we came back
KLM the you know, the Dutch airline, and of course
weren't they going on strike, so we just again dodged
the bullet they wanted to strike the day be four.
We came back and uh got it all taken care of,
I think, so we got back anyway, all as well,
(24:27):
here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And now you're backing ready to go. So while you're
on a trip like that, I mean, you know, obviously,
mister plants men, do you do you actually take time
to look at the plants in Europe as you're traveling through.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well, you know, the idea is, I'm traveling with my wife,
my four wife, Susan, and my brother and his wife
from outside Toronto, and uh, they don't want to get
too much of this plant stuff, but we did. We
did go to Munich Botanical Garden that was really quite lovely,
uh we And you just can't help with the Europeans
do lots of things. Well I shouldn't say that than anybody,
(25:00):
but better than certainly we do here with their park plantings,
and they have a lot of pedestrian areas where you know,
shops are, but they're always planted with something. So you know,
I take note of that, and I wish we could
do a bit more of that here. But anyway, yeah,
I do, but I didn't. I didn't sign anything. I
really didn't know. But what I did find is this
(25:21):
stuff makes people happy. And I said, well known fact
did these shops and everything else. If you have plants
out there look nice, people spend more money. There's just
no doubt. So anyway, so that's what I did with
the plant stuff, and I got some I got some
cool things.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Good and I'm sure we're going to hear about them.
And of course you can sign up and get doctor
Armity just newsletter that he sends out. Go to his
website is Alan armitages dot net and get signed up
for that, and then every now and then you'll get
some really cool recommendations on book readings and plants and
places that he's been. And I'm sure we'll learn more
about this this latest trip up and down the Danube
(25:59):
in upcoming. Yeah, and as I learned on your website,
you your new app as a new your app has
a new update. It's Army just great garden plants. And
if you don't have that app, you should because now
you can carry doctor Armities around in your pocket and
anytime you have a question, he's right there to help
you out. But you know what, I didn't realize how
(26:20):
many how many partners you have in that app that
help you out as well. That's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, it's good. We you know what this thing first starting,
This app has been around for a while now. It
just technology is one of these things that you know,
you never keep up with it. So but also so
is information in the garden world. My goodness, gracious ron
As you well know you talk about new plants or
recommended plants, it goes on forever. So I had to
(26:50):
make this app readable otherwise it would be go on forever.
So yeah, I'm updating that kind of stuff as best
I can. And the partners of people who grow the
plants and the people who sell the plants, yeah, they've
been very helpful to So it's it's it's it's to
say it takes a village.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Even even Maria Zampini.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh my goodness, I love Maria. She's terrific. If you
don't know Maria, it's just as his zam Beanie. She's
terrific and uh, we have a good time to go.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I always call her Zampy. So next time, next next
time you see her, call her Zampy and she'll know
who told you to say that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, I'll be talking with her very soon. I'll let
her know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All right, go ahead, buddy, talking with doctor Allan Armitage again.
His website is Alan Armitage dot net. We're going to
take a break and we come back. While you were gone,
I took a tour of your garden, uh and took
you down. Yeah, and I walked through and chase the
deer away that we're back. And then I picked out
a few plants and I think we're kind of standouts,
(27:50):
and I want to kind of walk you through some
of these and you can explain to folks what they are.
Are you surprised that I walk through your garden?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Nothing about you who surprises me anymore? Wrong? So just
come he comme in if I'm not here. Just you
keep chasing those deer away. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And by the way, you did get the Rita's apple
moonshine recipe.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I did, I did? I appreciate that. Yeah, the apple
and the moonshine, they go well together. I happy to
try that this week. I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We come
back more with doctor Allan Armitage his website Alanormitage dot net.
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (30:01):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning. The doctor is in the house, Doctor
Alan Apple Armitage. His website is Alan Armitage dot net
and I just got back from a nice trip over
to Europe and it'll be able to share some things
that he's seen over there in a couple weeks with
us as well. Don't forget his app is a gardening app.
It's updated. If you've had it, you need to get
(30:23):
the updated version. It's all of about four ninety nine
so it's a great buye trust me. But it's called
Armitages Great Garden Plants by Alan Armitage and you will
totally enjoy all the information that's on there. So in
a surprise to you, I came down to the Georgia
area and I took a walk through your garden and
chased all the deer away, and I went through and
I kind of took a look, and I said, I'm
(30:45):
gonna pick some standouts from the Armitage garden. And what's
nice about what you do? And this is kind of
a tip for everybody else. You label everything, even though
you're the doctor. You label everything that's in your garden.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Except the ones that the deer, squirrels, chipmunks and anybody
else eat and take away.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And then yeah, take them away from there, chew them up.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So I have no idea what I got here anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
But I thought it was well marked. So I was
able to recognize some of these, and I think most
of them are kind of newer plants. But some of
the standouts I saw as I walked around, And you
can kind of fill the sentence Aptenia, Uh, the golden cascade.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's a plant that nobody knows wrong and it's and well,
probably because it's not that easy to find Atinia. It's
it's a great, you know for those people who like
to do containers and the whole you know, fillers and
thrillers and spillers thing. This is a great spiller. It
falls out of the container and has little red flowers.
But the one you mentioned has golden foliage. I love it.
(31:51):
I've got it here, I'm looking at it right now.
So a good, good choice. That's one that I wish
we could get into the hands of more people, and
they have to do it online or good Garden Center
will carry it.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We grow that and we do the variegatid variety. I
haven't seen the golden one, but I'll have to take
a look at that one after I saw the one
growing there in your container there. I know you're a
big dahlia fan, and the one I picked out was
venti pink burst.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah not cool. So Dallias' that's some of those plants
that people just love, and they love them mostly for
the cut flower value, the big suckers, and I got
some big suckers in here. I'm sure you saw them.
But that is a dwarf form. I call it almost
like a betting dahlia, and the betting dalias have kind
of been disappointing, especially in an area where it gets
(32:37):
hot and no rain and nadda YadA YadA. Dahlias do
really well with cool temperatures. So this one you just
mentioned that VENTI, this is a new one, and it
was quite quite wonderful. In fact, they do and if
they struggle during the summer bit, they often come back
like really really well in the fall. So that one
(32:58):
is one that I'm really quite excited because it's a
dwarf form that seems to work. Most others I have
not had that same success with.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So if they turn into let us a little bit
in the summertime with the heat and all, just hang
with it, because they'll come back with them and bud
back up. And I did like the blue salvia right
next to it. I don't know what the variety was,
but I love blue.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Salveay you know, I tell you what salvy is wrong
if you were here and this is of course now
we're in where are we late September again? Some of
these perennial salvius are at their best, but even some
of the annual salvius, any of the blue salvius, I say,
any of the most of the blue Salvi's are perennial
and they look good, but they also flower like crazy
in the fall. And I don't know if you saw
(33:38):
the yellow one called the Forciitius Sage, but the Forciitius
Sage is an annual. But oh my goodness, wrong, it's
going through the roof right now. And uh and it's
just it's ForCity because it's yellow, but it's it's it's
a good four or five feet tall here, but it's
taken over there. It's it's taken over meaning visually it's
taken over the garden because it's so pretty right now.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Why was it's like the Victoria that light blue and
the annual here? But I have had her over winter
and pop back up in the roots again in the springtime.
Kind of a tough plant, but man, the pollinators absolutely
loving that. Oh absolutely, you had great, great selections there.
I know you're you like more of the paniculatas the
(34:20):
flocks is that are out there. You've got that Cole
pink growing the series.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, they've done well. Caple is actually relatively new,
what two years for years maybe at most, And they're
I say dwarf meaning knee high. Uh. And they just
stay flower for a long period of time. The thing
about all these flocks is they they tolerate lots of sun,
so if you put them in too much shade, they
still grow, but they don't flower terribly well. So I've
(34:49):
got and in my gardeners you know, he's got a
lot of shade and sun and the thanks of the
regular old garden. So where I happened in the sun,
they've done very very well. I love them. Great plant,
native pollinator thing you can ask for now.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You've been talking a lot about this perennial evergreen for
us and nevergreen for you obviously groundcover type perennial heliboris.
And the icon roses. Yeah, yeah, that thing that things.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, if they had to put up with us for
any time, ron they know that we both love the
Lenten roses, and the new Lenten roses compared to the
old Lenton roses, are are They don't receive, they don't
go anywhere, They just get bigger and better. And and
the nice thing about these new ones is the flowers
are straight up. You see them, you don't have to
(35:36):
bend over, and the foldage stays beautiful essentially all season
and I'm looking at mine right now and they look
very very nice. So ic n Roses is just one
group of them. There's a number of great groups of
helibores that I loved, both for foliage and for flowers.
So yeah, you can't go wrong. And they're gonna flower
(35:57):
early spring. I don't care where you are, Cincinnati, here,
it happens. They're gonna flower early spring as soon as
the temperatures warm up. In fact, they're probably putting on
buds right now. So that's a cool thing about. Yeah,
they're they're really great.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, you just look so good because the foliage right
now looks so nice. And I think that's the interesting
you know, you got the early late winter, early spring colors,
but then the rest of the season the foliage is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, and with most hellebores, they can go downhill the
old ones. And I said, you have nothing wrong with
the old ones. They're just there's better stuff out there.
And so if I'm gonna buy a hellib or, I'll
rather spend the money or something that's, you know, truly.
Perennial three looks good all season, gives me great flowers,
and I can look at it in September I can
look out in April and it's still wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Talking with doctor Allen Apple. Armitage's website is Alan Armitage
dot and ned. Be sure and check it out, and
you can find all of his great books on there
as well, including that Great Garden app Armonage's Great Garden Plants.
Be sure and download that one Mexican giant hissip.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, basically names what the hell's are hissup. It's you know,
some people call it hissop or agustache, which is no easier.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
A lot of people don't know the agustash or as.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I go. But anyway, these have been fairly new. Uh,
and and I think that they're they're really good. Uh.
There's been some bunch of these agustache or hysup or
whatever that has come out for a while. But uh,
you know, you look at some of the new ones
and I really like them, and I you know, they're
(37:37):
still flowering for me right now. And they have that
great fragrance, not so much the flowers but the foliage.
So the so all you got to do is put
them somewhere where you might even brush by them. You say, oh,
I've lent them too close to the path. But then
every time you walk by you get that smell and
it's really good. I really love these things.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And you know you had there's a garden lily grown
off to the side there with the petunias in the front. Look,
the petunias are great and and that kind of hides
the garden lily. Folige. It's u with you know, no flower,
But that's all right. But that's that's the way you
plant things like that.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, I happen to like planting things very very densely.
You do already sort of they duke it out, I guess.
But that garden lily is one called Forever Susan, and
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Of course because it's Susan.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's name. It's named for my good wife. But I
think you'd like it anyway. And it flowers. Well, I've
had it for years and it comes back every year.
That's cool thing too.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I got one like that. I got one more for
you that's really coming on strong. And we were selling
a lot as a fall annual as well. Great show,
and of course that would be straw flowers.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh my goodness, round straw flowers you can sell in
the spring and they look great, but you know, sometimes
they get their native Any of these are natives to
Australia and uh you know they you know, they come
and they go. They are definitely an annual. But I
would think if you put that out in like right now,
they're gonna look fabulous until you get frost. And I
(39:05):
love the straw flowers are called out of course, and
so you want bring people to the garden and they
get bored and they're yawning, just tell them to touch
the flowers and they almost jump back in surprise because
they truly feel like straw and uh so they're but
they're beautiful plant to take me the yellow one. I
like the yellow one the best, but they're all they're
all lovely.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Is that a petite knockout rose by the yellow one?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, it's it's it's a mini rows. I had that
for years and it really is a good rose.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
How about this particular plant that really stuck out the
blackstone grill?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Woh yeah, I have to get back with that. Now
that I'm home, I'm going to be cooking up a storm.
So we got you know, it's it's that time of year,
right and in Ohio where football is king at times
and certainly down here as well as football season. So
big games this weekend when I get the grill out
and with some smash burgers on there while I enjoy
the garden, enjoy the game.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Don't forget the bacon.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh yeah, can't go wrong with bacon.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Doctor Allen Apple armities with us this morning. Alan armedis
dot net is the website. So last time we talked,
you said something about just kind of threw it out
there that there may be another book in the works
from doctor Armitage.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh boy, yeah, well there there there will be, and
I'm really excited about it. Ron. I sort of asked
you to take a look at the idea. And it's
whenever I give talks and you do too, or whether
people are walking the garden with you or whatever, they
always ask the same questions and they're always confused. The
one thing about gardener's passion and confusion, it just goes
(40:43):
goes together. So I wrote this new book called The
Common Sense Gardeners, and it is Gardening with common Sense,
and it's less than one hundred pages long. And as
they say, one of the least common things is common sense.
So hopefully I've put it down and it's gonna come out.
It's gonna be pre sale, will be before Christmas, but
the book itself probably will come out until January or February. Okay,
(41:05):
but I think people are gonna love it. I think
they really are easy to read, and yeah, hope good
no good ideas and good things to do, common sense.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All your books are easy to read and they're always enjoyable.
So I'm looking forward to it. And again, if you
want to learn more about it, go to his website,
sign up for his newsletter. It's Alan Armitage dot net.
That's Alan Armitage dot net Doctor triple A. Get some
rest and we'll talk to you in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
All right, Ron, thank you so much everybody, and enjoy
the day.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right, take care doctor Allan Armitage again Alan armitage
dot net. Will take a quick break to me come back.
Phone lines are going to be open for you. Eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five. Don't forget
our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Got lots of tips
to share with you, and of course coming up in
our next hour. Gary Sullivan with some home improvement, and
of course at the bottom of the hour the one,
(41:57):
the only buggy, Joe Buggs and it's all happen. I
think you're in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Not gardening questions. Ron has the answers at one eight
hundred eighty two three Talk You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson.
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