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September 27, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our twelve free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook
page In the Garden with Ron Wilson and I am
Ron Wilson, and we are talking yard ding on this
last weekend of September. Can't believe that October right around
the corner, but it is fall. And the good thing
about one of the many great things about planting in

(00:57):
the falls, it's a long planting season. So even though
we're getting into October, October is a great month of
plant Usually cooling down, usually start against some moisture in
the ground. I'll do a little watering right now, but
it's well worth it. But boy, this time of the year,
get into October, that's that's my time of the year
to really mess it up in the yard and garden.

(01:17):
Get out there and do what I need to do
and get things taken care of, and hopefully you will
be doing the same thing. And if you have questions,
we're here to help answer in your questions. Of course,
you can go to our website and email us, and
of course visit your local independent garden center. They're the pros.
They know what you're talking about, and they can help
you out as well. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five to Pennsylvania we go, Marie, Good.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I am great in yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I wanted to ask you about lavender. Yes, I have
three plants. Actually, one's a little white one that doesn't
do much of anything, but it has white flowers on
it every year, and one of the purple one that's
only about eighteen inches high. But what I'm asking you
about is I have one that is, oh my gosh,

(02:10):
about three feet high, and it's around six feet long
and four feet at least wide. Okay, Now, I planted
this a few years ago and I've never trimmed it,
and I hesit, and I know I wonder if I should,
but I hesitate to because every single year it's loaded

(02:32):
with bees.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Which is great, so they're gonna they love it, love
you for that. Here's the Here's the thing when it
comes to pruning lavender. There's a couple of times that
you're doing that when you harvest the flowers. If you
harvest the flowers, or at the end of the season
when the flowers are spent and you go to cut
those off. That is actually a trimming process as well,
and you could.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Go back down I mean the long stems that come
up with a flower.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, right, so you yeah, you so, and you could
go back down into the foliage a little bit when
you do that. So that's a natural pruning process there.
The second time in the springtime would be the major
pruning that you would do because then you want all
that new growth to come out and fill in. But
the thing you have to remember with the lavender is
they're very picky about how far back you would prune them,

(03:17):
and if you go back too far into that old wood,
a lot of times they don't recover from that. So
I typically recommend people to, you know, be on the
cautious side, don't go back too far, but wait, wait
until they start to actually bud out. So you're looking
at the stems and you can see the new buds
starting to put some new growth out on the stems themselves.

(03:39):
When you see them starting to regrow, you know, you
could go back at third and in some cases maybe
maybe halfway and clean them up like that, and it's
gonna look a little funny at first, but then they
flush back out cover that over. But if you get
too far back into that old wood. A lot of
times they just don't recover well. So maybe the first

(03:59):
year that you do it, you're a little more cautious,
see how they respond. The second year you might want
to go back a little bit further if necessary, and
see how they respond from that. But just makes again,
I wait till they start to butt out. You got
plenty of time to do it. Make the cut back
and do it by hand. Cut it back at that point,
and then see what they do for you. And again.
So that and then getting rid of the old folio

(04:22):
or the old flowers at the end of the season
or harvesting them. That's your two times for prooning.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Okay, so I can prune them a little bit now
or wait till the spring.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, I wouldn't have any problem at all doing, you know,
to cut them back a little bit, clean them up
a little bit, get them ready to go into the winter.
We're not looking to force any new folds or anything
like that. We're basically just doing a clean up.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm just surprised how many bets that attracts.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
They are a magnet, and obviously that particular one likes
where it's growing. That's a nice mass planning of labator.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I am going to turn the one side of it
because I have a driveways that has a stone sense
stone wall, and it's growing over that. The spikes are
getting out there, so I'm going to trim that edge there,
you know, down, but there's still plenty left there for
the bees.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Good. Yeah, they're a magnet and I you know, that's
when he eats in flower next year. Do me favor
take a picture, send it to me. I'd love to
see it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Okay, all right, okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
All right, Marie, good talking to you, Joe, Joe and Louisville,
good morning, or Gary, I'm sorry Gary and Louisville.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Okay, hey Ron. Yeah, I have wild valles just creeped
over from my neighbor's yard the past few years and
it's just taking over my backyard and one here and
there in my front yard. I want to get a
hold of that before it takes over my front yard too.
I still want to take care of it in my backyard.
I bought that tea zone they had track cover. I

(05:55):
think it's right, uh and it says to spray for
a wild Vallet's late fall, right, but I don't want
to be too late in the fall way and just thought,
you know, grow, you know, active any more or anything
like that. So how early late what what would you
consider plate fall to spray that.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I would look at those mid to late October, so
in about two weeks. Yeah, you're getting you know, two
to three weeks, you're looking good.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know last year, the way it stayed warm, and
of course you experienced that in Louisville as well. We
stayed right into you know, November stayed fairly warm. We
were still getting pretty good activity out of spot treating
weeds even in the first week of November, just because
it was warmer and things were still actively growing. But
the reason we go for those more mid to late
fall like mid to late October is the fact that

(06:42):
you know, they know it's winter time and they start
to shut down, so they're putting all that energy down
into the root system. And so by going after them
at that time of the year, they take more of
that in and send it down to the roots, so
you get a better kill wild violence. I'll be honest.
I'll be honest with you. They're one of the hardest
of all the weeds in your yard to get rid of.

(07:03):
And even even though go ahead.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Good, no, I was going to say, they also, let's say,
to spray in a spring too, so I have to
know how pretty early spring of a take.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
You gotta got to wait till they green up. So
you have to watch and see until they start to
green up and start to regrow again, and that's when
you go after him because as they after as they mature.
And I'm glad you brought that up. They have a
waxy coating on the outside of that leaf, which you know,
if you put water on top of that, you'll see
it beat up and run away, and that that's one
of the many reasons why they're so hard to get

(07:35):
rid of. Plus they spread by rhizomes, and they spread
from seed, so you've got a combination of things going there.
And in many cases, in a really serious infestation where
it's mostly wild violence and nothing else, a lawn care
company would come in, mark off that area and spread
it with a vegetation killer and take everything out and

(07:56):
probably do it a couple of times and then come
back and recede or re the area, and then you know,
try to re establish because if you look gary. Where
the wild violets are moving into your yard, it's typically
areas of the lawn that's a little bit thinner than
the rest of the yard, so they can compete and
kind of crawl in there. So your other goal is
going to be again, get that lawn as thick as

(08:17):
you can, and that's your one of your best competitions
against most all weeds, including creeping charlie and wild violets,
which are two of the worst to try to get
rid of.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Well, no, do you like to shade because in my
front yard is solid sun and it's you know, the heels.
It gets really faces to the south, so it gets really hot.
So that's why I've only seen one here and there.
They must have came for a sea being turned up
next to my neighbor's yard. But but my backyard, it's
a big wall in the tree back there, and you
get saw a shade.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So they love You're right, they love the shadier conditions.
And the other good thing about the shadier condition is
that the lawn is usually thinner, and so it makes
you know, you get a two fold there and that
makes a lot of you for them to grow. But
in full sun that typically you know if maintained the
lawns a little bit thicker, And you're right, they'll grow
in full sun, but not as well as they would

(09:08):
in a partially shaded condition.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Well, you were seeing something about a long care company
would come in and just kill it all out, right,
So I assume it would be something like roundup. I
would think round up kill it and but will it
do that either with the blax coding on them or
they have to wait till the fault do that.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
No round up, you could do round up, you know,
just about any time you could use the round up
and kill everything out. The thing of it is, it's
nice to time that so that if you kill everything out,
you've got to come back and seed. September early October
is the best time for seeding. We're getting kind of
late for doing that. At this stage in the game.
You can sod in other words, you could kill all out,

(09:45):
come back in and put sod down, which is a
great thing to do, and because that's sod lays on top.
But you know you've got to give that round up
or kills all There are other out on the market
there that's got that glyphosate. And remember round up to
the formula change now, but that'll kill that out. But usually,
you know, you give it a couple of good applications
to make sure you got it all, and then come

(10:08):
back in see it in that area, feed get the
lawn up and going and and And that's why doing
it in September is the best time, because in that
lawn it's doing its thing October, November, December, kind of
hanging there January February. So by the time we get
into the springtime, we're looking pretty good as far as
the lawn is starting to fill in. You may spot
treat a little bit for the violence, use a pre

(10:29):
emergent orverside for some of the weed seeds that may
still be there, and then you're good to go. And
you'll you'll still have to spot treat here and there,
and as long as your neighbor has it, you'll always
have a little bit somewhere is gonna pop up. But
you just jump on it.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Early, like a neighborhood and Solutia exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Zoiser does not make good neighbors.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
No, that's true. No, I don't really appreciate your time.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
All right, Gary, good talking to you, and good luck
with everything, because that that's one of the toughest ones.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
All right, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
All right, take care, quick break, we come back. Guess
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Speaker 7 (14:13):
And mister Wilson, How are you?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I am wonderful in yourself.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Very good. Good in the garden. Who's in the garden
right now?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Me?

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Are you you need?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You need to get out in the garden?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
What you doing?

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Pullnos last tomatoes?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
No pinching the tops out. You know, as warm as
it's been staying late into the season.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
I know it's crazy, you.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Know that you get tomatoes continue to ripen if you
got them, you know, on an indeterminant a lot later
than usual. I don't know if I know you didn't
listen to show earlier, but uh, research came out. Got
a thing the other day about the first fall frosts, slash,
heavy frost, light freeze, moving on back. Oh my gosh.
Then some area Reno de Vallas, since night teen seventy

(15:01):
has moved back forty one days. Wow, forty one days.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Well, I mean our area is eleven days end of
October and it.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Usually the eighteenth, I think is what we used to
have slated on there, so it's around the eighteenth. But yeah,
usually the end of October or so. And they said,
talking about the eleven to fourteen days, it's backed up
in our area. But mostly they said affect it has
been the Midwest and Midwest and northeast has shown the most,

(15:30):
you know, as far as backing up. But yeah, it
just shows you how things are changed.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Yes, they are.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Falls get longer every year. By the way, I learned
this week. I know you know all about it because
you're in the home improvement and all the paints and
all that stuff. The asthma and allergy friendly certification program. Yeah,
I had no idea that somebody was One of their
paint companies were talking about how their paints are certified
by the Asthma Allergy Friendly Certification. But that's a that's

(15:57):
a pretty cool website.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yes, yes, and you know, really if you follow along,
I mean I can see it in the last twenty years,
how much how products have changed in terms of off
gasing in different things. Then we got into talking about
that Easy Breathe that's probably been fifteen twenty years ago.
But that whole thing was based on you know, tight

(16:21):
homes off gassing of products polluted air. EPA came out
and said, you know, the air inside your homes five
to three to five times more plued than outdoor. And
remember Beck, in the eighties everything was outdoor air pollution.
The whole thing's flipped.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So yeah, so now you wear your gas mask when
you go in your house and take it off when
you drive to work that or.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Get some air exchanging units going on. But yes, yeah,
and paints. There's even paints out there now that actually
the film stays active, it actually kills bacteria.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, crazy, that is pretty crazy. But in hospitals, nursing homes,
maybe a nursery at your house.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Not my house, not your house that we have a nursery,
but it's a plant nursery and it's outside. Well, we
do have a house. My wife is not into the
house plant thing propagating and stuff, and so I guess
you could say we have a houseplant nursery in the.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
House and that's an air purifier.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Absolutely not at all like the easy Breathe or something
like that. But it's a good right, yep. It's they
helped to compliment each other. So yeah, for sure, there's
no doubt. I mean, you know, and I think the
living proof to that is when you go into like
here in Cincinnati we have the Chrome Conservatory filled with
tropical plants. You go in there, you know, it's just

(17:44):
you want to go take a deep breath. You know,
the difference, all the difference right away you can tell
that they're they're purifying the air. But anyway, I thought
that was an interesting I went on there because I
mean they talk about everything in his brother you know,
products and vacuum cleaners and names and betting in all
nine yards ASTHMA Analogy friendly certification program.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
There you go pretty cool letting people know what are
we going to talk about today, Well, we're gonna talk
about animals. Great, you want to talk about asthma, I'm
gonna talk about animals. You know, as you know, Uh,
the invasion to your home is ongoing, but certainly this
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(18:28):
that wants to stay nice and warm this year, they're
looking at you.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's it's that time.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
We're going to talk about prevention and then what do
you do when it happens? How about that?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
But I prevented it? Gary, How did it happen?

Speaker 7 (18:43):
You did? Didn't they make a visitors?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
You said, prevention and how you can prevent it? And
then what happens if they get in? Because some of
them are pretty sneaky, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Yeah, I mean it's it's we just went through analyzing
our whole homewers all seeing everything. You had a long
conversation with the broker on animal coverage too, and that's
all over the place. Humans on who you're signing up with.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Remember when you and I when I went through that
thing with the squirrels. Yeah, and raccoon damage was little,
but not squirrels. Yeah, you had actually looking to add squirrels.
I know, I know, check your policies.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
We were pretty comprehensive and asking questions and stuff. You're
but you're right, it's a it's a challenge and it's
not cheap.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
No, it's to add them on. You mean, yeah, no,
it's not. Well, I guess it happens more and more
all the time.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, for sure, there you go.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So we're gonna talk about critics today, that's.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
One of the things. And then just wrapping off summer projects,
starting a little insulation ventilation. We'll be all kind of
crying about our electric bill right now anyways, as we'll
talk about an energy conservation.

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Time for.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
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(22:20):
and gentlemen, mister common Sensikal himself Buggy Joe Boggs and
today and today and today I'm going to call you
Joey Maximilian.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh are they are they blooming big? Big time?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I hope there was Johnny Appleseed who went around the world.
Guy was kind of weird from what I understand. It's true, Uh,
I went around the United States planning apple seeds everywhere
he could plan apple seeds. Well, Buggy Joe Boggs went
around the local neighborhood and planted Maximilian sunflower seeds. And

(23:01):
his Maximilian sunflower seeds have just taken off like crazy
at the Voice of America Parks and wow are they
in color right now?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well there you go there now that is I mean,
you know the whole story on that. They did a
really yeah, a really nice job with a prairie blend there.
I actually I actually have some Voice of America the listeners.
If you're going up seventy five, I'll tell you the
Maximilian bloom is worth getting off when it's good though.

(23:35):
But you know that plant does require a little more
moisture than what you would think for a prairie plant.
But that's the whole story. So they put in this
nice prairie blend mix of seed, and over time, you know,
I kept noticing a little more maximilion, a little more maximilion,

(23:57):
and I just kind of fell in love with a bloom.
I mean, it is a gorgeous yeah, gold and yellow.
It's just, oh my goodness. And so I wrote a
big alert about this several years ago, and it was
it was it was the plant of the week, you know,
for for Big Old and just extolled this virtues and

(24:19):
posted that, you know, like at ten o'clock in the
morning or something like that. And and then I immediately
got this email from a naturalist over you know, with O. D.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
N R.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Ohio, the part of Natural Resources, and said, well, that's
not a really good plant for for Ohio. Yes, it's
native to the United States, prairie region, which you know,
this goes back to this whole thing. You and I've
talked many times about, you know, native to where and

(24:50):
I in the back actually I called the guy a
really interesting fellow, and and he said that that in
the prairie areas of the United States where this is native,
they don't get a lot of rain and necessarily dry
adapted plants. But if you put it in a rainy
area like Ohio, it is extremely aggressive. And so you know,

(25:11):
the whole story there that oh, this thing really took
over things. It wasn't intended. But now the display is
uh is tremendous, and the rest of that yet though
the whole corner, oh oh yes, you.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Know in the soccer fields they put that path walk
path and the and the and the fencing, and you
kind of didn't see them for the last couple not
too much over the last couple of years, I kind
of you know, but man, did they kick back in
this year. They I mean, they are so tall, they're
hanging out over the walkway.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh, I got it, beautiful. That's going to have to well.
So the rest of the story was after I talked
with him one of the phones at ten o'clock or
thereabout Maximilian Sunflowers Plant of the week. And then I
think at three o'clock I posted Maximilian Sunflowers Weed of
the week. So it was you know again too, you know,

(26:11):
one person's weed, you know as another person's wildflower. You've
heard that? Who said that? But but it is true?
It is, it is true. Well, well that's fantastic. So
I was concerned about this year because of our mini drafts.
You know, last year it looks yeah, yeah, last year
it really got suppressed. Yeah, and and but this year, okay,

(26:33):
I'm going to have to well, I've been out of
the I've been out of the country. There you go,
and I still have vacation fog. I mean we traveled
far on we it was, I gotta say for this
this year's vacation. We I mean the ends of the
earth maybe could be. We we vacation in Brown County

(26:56):
State Park, Indiana. I love Brown County is Nashville, Nashville, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, did you wave as you went through my hometown?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
We did good. We actually came out that way.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Did you stop and take a picture of the tree?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I have too many?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I have too many. You better tell people what I mean.
We're speaking shorthand here.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Indiana, Greensburg, Indiana. Alme of three things. Tree in a
courthouse growing out of the roof of the courthouse, an
W root beer.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh yeah, that root beer stands been there forever. And
an W root beer And the yard boy.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well there you go. Now why is the yard boy
boy not on home move signs?

Speaker 7 (27:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
We need we need to work on that. And and
and there's a connection. I mean the yard boy. You know,
I don't know how in the world you planted that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
How did that get in that tower? I don't know.
But you know where he gets his water.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
From?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
The springs in the clock?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh no, ge no, yeah, you know serious.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
You know what great, great story I had, both of
our both of our daughters. You know, we still go
back and visit Greensburg, both of our daughters. Standing we're
standing in the courthouse square there downtown Greensburg, looking up
at the tree on the top, and I said, you know,
there's an old story, you old joke here that used
to always tell about, you know, where it gets its
water from the springs in the clock and this guy

(28:37):
walked up seriously, couldn't have been better timing, said, now,
all doing pretty good, you know, and enjoying our tree
up there. Oh yeah, it's pretty neat. And he said, girls,
you know how that gets its water? And Megan said,
from the springs in the clock. He just kind of went, uh,

(28:59):
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
You know, seriously, the whole story and this I find
this interesting because you know, construction today. I'm sure Gary
you know, is well aware of, you know, changes in construction.
But my understanding is this, and I've read it, you
know enough now and in places where okay, it must
there must be some validity to it. But but whenever

(29:24):
they were trying, whenever they were putting you know, those
that kind of steeply slanted roof on top of that tower,
they would they would often use soil as the support underneath,
with the idea of them taking it out. So they
would use soil, you know, to uh, to keep whatever
structure it is as they're building it. And uh, and

(29:45):
that's what they did. And apparently there there was in
their a seed of a tree. That my understanding though,
this is the second tree, is that right?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, I'll see they yeah, I think so I.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Think so, but I'm not. I don't think it. And
currently it's listed as a mulberry, which they probably didn't
need to plant that right one time. An aspen, yeah,
it was, it was. Indeed, it was definitely an aspen.
And then and if you if you zoom in on that,

(30:20):
you know when it has leaves. That told me because
it's like, well, I need a new tree identification class
because I'm not getting the aspen out of that one.
And well, it just it's just.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
But we need to add more landscaping. I've been kind
of I've been voicing that opinion for quite a few years. Shrubs.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That whole courthouse, that whole court area was all trees
at one time. So when you pulled in downtown Greensburg,
you could barely see the courthouse in the middle of
all of it, and it was it was like a park.
And it got to where somebody complained about too many
birds hanging out in the trees all the time. Oh no, yep,
And next thing you knew, they took they took them

(31:05):
all down.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I never knew that story, that.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That thing was totally You could barely see the courthouse
because there was trees in all all around the whole thing,
and yeah, somebody that happened after we left there, but yeah,
somebody got the right idea to just just take them
all down. And I think they planted Linden's or something
around it, or there's some other smaller.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, lost it. Well, that that is really because
I've taken a lot of shots of the surrounding of
the whole court house, and that really is interesting because
I I kind of always wondered why there aren't. I
just assumed, you know, maybe there was some big renovation
that occurred. You know, Well they did that.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
They renovated the courthouse, but they took the trees down
as well.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
So let's hope that's that same thinking didn't apply to
the rest of Indiana, right, really tell you crazy?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
Welcome Back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson Special
guest this morning, Bucky Joe Boggs with the Bucky Joe
Box Support OSUE Extension b Y G L dot O
s U dot E du. Now, did you have lots
of things you want to talk about? Because I have
a couple more.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Things, uh, couple of things. But I but what do
you have?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Let's I have a special honey for you. Oh, always
smoky flavored.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Dark colored and smoky flavored. Boy, could that be uh
not from spotted lantern fly?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Is it? I can't wait to get that to you,
to see the buggets your bogs actually eat honey made
from spotted lantern fly poop?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, I actually have. I've tasted that, and you
know if you don't, then no, no, no, I.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh gosh, let's go on to the next time.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I have to see if where was it made? That's
a very good question, I went, I asked.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Nina Bagley and German Village, Columbus.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
We'll see there you go. So, so what I had
came from Philadelphia. I'm quite certain it is probably different,
so I have to check.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
That out, you know, really sorry?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
All right, all right, well you're a pretty impressed that
I got that.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Right, yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
As a matter of fact, think about it.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I sent you a test about it, but you didn't
respond that that's okay, Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I didn't see that. You never do vacation.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Anyway, young man said that back in late August early September.
When they sit on their deck, the tiny black bugs
land on my arms and legs. They can bite smaller
than that's come in through the screen.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
What are those, Well, that's they're they're probably and there's
a whole group of insects, uh that that we have
to think about with that, you know, bigger and this
isn't what they are. But you know, we do have
in in in let's just say our listening area, which

(35:55):
is quite quite large, right, we do have black flies.
Now they're more gnatlike, they're not tiny, they don't get
through screens, but they are vicious biters. But the connection
to this, you know, blackflies are kind of moving in
the direction of a group of flies that we typically

(36:15):
just called midge flies. They're not exactly the same obviously,
but then we have this within midge flies, we have
a group called the biting midges, and they can be
they could be a real challenge. They like to have
kind of moist soil. The larvae develop in moist soil,
whereas blackfly larvae develop in running water in water. And

(36:40):
so if you're in an area where you know you're
surrounded by kind of poor drainage or which, let's face it,
that's a lot of our area, right, you can have
you can have you know the rise of these biting midges,
and that describes it perfectly. But of course it's exactly
the same thing that will dissuade miski will dissuade the

(37:01):
biting midges. So that's kind of good news, because you know,
we mosquito's are a type of flyers. Sometimes we forget that,
but I would say that's probably what it is.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
What a great name for a sporting team. Ladies and gentlemen,
Here are your biting midges.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think. So that's exactly right. I mean, vicious, little
vicious things that would be the right underneath. So I
have to share.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Get the last four minutes.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Okay, last four minutes. So my wife came across a
plaque we were staying called the Aide Martin Lodge there
the Brown County State Park, which is really a neat place.
It's just a fantastic place, and so in one of
the hallways she was just out, you know, we were
both just kind of going around and looking at different things.
It's fascinating lodge. There was this display on yellow wood.

(37:52):
Now I didn't know this. In fact, I talked to
our good friend Steve Foltz, you know, director of horticulture
to since any botanical garden. You're good friends, yes.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
And.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Steve, Steve wasn't aware of this either. I didn't know this,
but there are native there are yellow woods native too
to that part of Indiana. In fact, if you look
at the map, it's called Yellowood State Forest, and you
know there's a whole thing there about. And I didn't
know this that the yellow came from a yellowish stain

(38:33):
that's extracted from the from the wood used to sustain
different things including clothing. I did not know that. But
yellow woods in the Yellowood State Forest. That's going to
be a road trip. We've already decided we've got to
go over and see it. And if you go to
Eye Naturalists and look in that area and then click
on the you know, the reports, you can see images

(38:54):
that I have to say, right there, pretty good size,
pretty good sized trees. Yeah, so I never knew that.
Never knew. Of course, yellow woods are native to different
parts of the United States, mostly Central and you know Tennessee, Kentucky,
and but I didn't know that. And it's it's quite

(39:14):
a deal there. They emphasized it. We took a dry
through it, and I just I didn't I couldn't see
any I think probably it's going to take a little
hike off the road to see these native yellow woods
growing in Yellowood state. For so, yeah, that's pretty neat.
When you go on vacation, sometimes the unexpected pops up.
This was really unexpected exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's the same one.

(39:43):
I mean, it's the one that we have that we
but it is native and it is growing right there.
And like I said, you look at some pictures posted
with thy naturalists, and you know they're not a lot.
I mean some look like, you know, just straight poles,
single stem and when have you ever seen Yellowood single stem?
Because they they are understory, you know, succession trees. So

(40:06):
you put them out in the sun and you know,
you kind of lose that apical dominance a little bit
more stems, but yeah, that's gonna have to be a
trip this next year, it's gonna have to We're gonna
have to maybe get a bus. What do you think
just pick up to us. Yeah, well three of us,
three of us, me, you and Steve. We're gonna yeah, Steve, yes,

(40:29):
are good.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Well the bus is to carry in the back.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's yeah. Well did you say that loud? I we
don't want anybody to hear that. So so yes, yellow wood.
So when you're out the battle of your vacations, I
guess the take home is, uh, you know, just look
at the surroundings and and see what you can find
that's unique to that area. And maybe beforehand I didn't

(40:56):
do this beforehand. I have to thank my wife for
putting us onto that because I had no clue, nonethless,
although there is a great big yellow wood growing at
one of the entrances just well not at the interest
you couldn't get in, but off to the side of
one of the entrances that a Martin lodge. And I

(41:18):
didn't know why that was there other than we do
use yellow woods quite a lot in our landscapings in Ohio.
And I just thought, well, that was just no, it's
there for a reason. It's there because you know yellow
woods are are I want to say, a prize tree,
a recognized tree. It's actually considered though to be threatened.

(41:39):
Threatened there in Indiana because birds land in the might think.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, A good, good point. I'll tell you what I
plug in for Nashville, Indiana. That's a really that's a
fun town to visit. And the park there, you know,
Brown County, that whole thing is a great place to go.
Joe Boggs, thank you so much, have a great afternoon,
a great weekend. We'll talk to you next week. And
I know what you're gonna say. Say it there you
go back, go back, go bye. Take care. Thanks to

(42:06):
our callers, Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course to Dan Gleeson,
our producer, because without Danny Gleeson, none of the stuff
would happens. So Danny, thank you so much for all
that you do. Now it is fall, great time to plan,
Get out and plant a tree or two or three.
Keep planting those native plants, native selections, native of ours,
keep your your worms pampered, get the kids and dogs
involved with guardening. By all means, oh be pollinat or

(42:27):
polite friendly, and by all means, make it the best
weekend of your life. See it.

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