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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy on this final Saturday in September. Unbelievable
going into October more Now we're into the fall season,
don't you know what somebody asked me yesterday about fall color.
We've been going through the worst drought that we've had
(00:57):
since nineteen eighty eight. In some are is even worse
than that, and I mean it's really bad and finally
gotten Hellen's come through and really gotten some good moisture
back to us. We could take more as we start
to build on it over the next two or three days,
and I think this is gonna really set us up
for next week. I know a lot of folks holding
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off and rightfully so, planting, putting fall mums and cabbage
and kale in the ground, planting new trees and shrubs.
I mean, let's face it, it was hard to get into
the ground. It was so hard and dry. Now we're
start to get little bit of moisture back in there.
We still need to build on it and build on it,
but it's coming. But this is I think what we're
seeing right now at least what we've gotten in our area,
(01:41):
enough good moisture in that top couple inches of soil
or so to start looking at. If you've been putting
off any lawn care, like overseating, putting down that first
lawn feeding, you know, whatever, it may be core air rating,
we couldn't get in there because just so hard and dry.
This is probably gonna be after this weekend because we
(02:01):
are seeing some showers through Monday next week. An excellent
opportunity and timing wise, remember for cool season grasses, the
best timing is August fifteenth through the end of September.
Obviously October the first starts on Monday or so, but
you know we still have a week. You know, early
on there bluegrasses you start to question a little bit
(02:24):
because it takes so long for them to germinate, but
the fescus and rise most definitely, So if you've been
putting it off, I wouldn't hesitate to get out there
next week, next weekend and go ahead and get your
core aerating done, go ahead and get your slice seating done,
go ahead and get that first feeding down for the lawn.
You can go ahead and get that stuff done taken
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care of if you're going to do a flawn. We
just talked about creating a flowering lawn or adding micro
clover to your lawn. This is also great timing for
doing that as well. So you know, take advantage of
the moisture that we have been getting. And again you
need to do something with those cool season grasses right
now to you know, get the long going again. And
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I know a lot of us have to take a
look at it and see what happened over the last
six or eight weeks. Did we lose everything part of it?
I think you'll be amazed. I am so far of
what's greening up already, those crowns that are coming back, Uh,
no doubt about it, and looking pretty darn good in
most areas. But again probably need a little overseeding at
first feeding, et cetera, et cetera. So uh, this is
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going to be I think a great week to build
on the moisture that we've been given and get on
it next weekend and the weekend as well as a
matter of fact, talking about lawn. Caros go to Columbus, Ohio. Phil.
Good morning, Good morning, Ron. How are you doing today? Great?
Certain yourself, fantastic, good We spoke.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We spoke about six weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I'm the guy that I I seated a turf type
top tall fescule uh back in August, middle of August,
and uh, I guess I'm I'm at a point now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's coming in very nicely.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I've kept it watered good obviously the last week really
helped out. But my question is when I want to
go ahead and put the first fertilizer application down. I mean,
of course, when I seed it, I used Starter fertilizer
at the time, right, a good brand. So should I
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go with a high nitrogen fertilizer at this point in
time with that? Or should I go with something that's
a bit more balanced, like a malorganite type product.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, I think you're talking two different things here. If
you want to go all natural milorganites A seven zero
four or something like that, so you know it's very low,
but it is all natural if you're looking to go
that direction, If you're going to stay with the synthetics,
I would still You did this back in August, so
that was four weeks, five weeks ago, six weeks, six
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weeks ago, so you can actually you can actually refertilize
about every six weeks in the fall, as a matter
of fact, or some places that will do that three
times through the fall. They'll do it early September, mid
to late October, and again in late November, all three
of those feedings being that slower release higher night you
know slow it has a combination of slow and quick
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release nitrogen. But at twenty five something, you know, zero
ten something like that. Fertilom's lawn food plus iron, let's
take that for instance, And that's probably what I'd be
using at this stage. And I would do it for
this feeding, and I would do it again for the
November feeding and again, you know, if you put it
down this weekend or next week, kind of out about
another six weeks or so, and that's when you want
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to go with that, that second feeding, and you should
be good to go after doing that. But I I
personally at this stage, and I don't know which starter
fertilizer you used, but sometimes even though starter fertilizers have
a fairly good shot of nitrogen in.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Them, Yeah, the nitrogen was seventeen Okay, Yeah, and I
still have some of that left over.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I had thought.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
About using it do but I absolutely, I mean, I guess, yeah,
so that would still be okay to use, you think.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh absolutely, As a matter of That's why I was saying,
you know that has a high nitrogen, you're good to
I mean, that would be good to go for the
first feeding if you didn't do anything else and you
came back early November and gave it that second shot.
But uh, there's a pretty good shot of nitrogen in there.
So if you do have some left over, heck, God,
make sure I use that up first and then and
then come back and, like I say, in November, and
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use that. I like the fertilom, the long food plus iron.
Use that one at that point and you should be
good to go for the season.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh great, Yeah, I just wasn't sure if if I
was going to be adding too much potassium or phosphorus
with the starter for wise or a second time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, no, not really. And again, what's the number that's
still even though it has Foster's because as a starter fertilizer,
it isn't usually all that high and it's a one
time or a second time shot and then you're done
because that fertiloan won't have any in it at all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay, that was my question.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, appreciated, Good luck with everything. Appreciate you giving
us up to an update on that too, and you
know he's gonna have he had to stick with it
as far as watering, but good to hear that he
has made it through. But again, you're at a point
now if you've been holding off on the lawn, now
is the cool season, grasses. Let's do it next week,
next weekend. As far as if you need to put
more seed down blue grass, boy, you're right on that cusp.
(07:19):
It takes a while for that to come up. If
the weather sticks with us and we stay warm, you're
good to go. If it cools down faster, question mark there.
But again I think we're still okay next week for
fescusing rise, no problem whatsoever. I think we've got a
couple weeks without any issues there, so feel free to
jump on that. And again that's the first feeding, absolutely
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and we'll get you know, again, we're a little bit
later than what we normally would do, but then we'll
just count about six to seven weeks after we put
it down to do our final fall feeding and use
the same one. So if you're at the garden centers
and you're picking up that fertil and lawn food plus iron,
and you're doing it for coming up for next week
by the other bag or two back to what do
we need for your last feeding? Because so many times
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we just say I have to go to the store
and get it. I'll just forget it. We'll get it,
get in the garage, have it ready to go. So
you were able to put that down. Those two feedings
in the fall are the most important, all right. And
there are some like I say, some folks will actually
do three. I think that's a lot. But the two
feedings for sure, very very important. Before we go into
the break date from Dayton.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Good morning, Ron, what a bad morning? Oh what happened
to hear about the storms? Oh? Ron? The whole plat
it's blocked off. I had to go three blocks down
that I couldn't get Jerry Giff And the phone lines
are bad. Oh really it's the worst. See yeah, wrong,
I'm telliging. There's branches in write down our plant that
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just almost hit our almost hit the wolf last night.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Wow, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's bad. Man.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, you know, I think the winds a good are done.
I think for the for the most part, we got
some rain coming through for a couple of days, so
at least we aren't going to be putting up with that.
I know, looking at my yard last night and this
morning looks like a bomb went off. There's so much
debris everywhere. Yeah, we never lost our power, fortunately. But
but you know what, Dick, Well, it's it is a
(09:15):
good day because we're all still alive and we're all
still doing what we're doing. It could be done in Florida,
North Carolina. That's right, That's exactly right. So it's it's
still a good day, Dick. We're all here and we're
we made it through it, and that's it. That's a
real plus. We got to stay positive. Hey, I thought
of you yesterday. And I don't know if you saw this,
(09:35):
but the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain is going to
be in Cincinnati on in April. You better, you better
check into that and get your tickets for that. It's
I guess it's a really cool event. I think I
might even get a tickets for this thing. Well, good,
good talking with you, Dick, and state, stay calm. Everything
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will work out, okay, all right, take care and it's
you know we did I we went we had forty
mile an hour wins yesterday. I mean it was whipping
stuff around. Our greenhouses felt like they were going to
fall apart. I think they're taller to sixty seventy degree winds,
but anyway, always sounds like they're not gonna make it.
Trees and stuff, we don't didn't have a lot of
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trees down. We do have breakage and the stuff here
and there. But you know, you sit there and you
and you feel this forty mile an hour winds, and
I cannot imagine. I've never been through a hurricane besides
the remnants of I have a couple, well Dan has,
but bejides this one. And when Hurricane I made it
all the way up to us, and we did have
some more than forty mile hour wins for that one
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because we had a lot of damage. But I can't
imagine being on the coastline when that hundred and forty
mile an hour winds hit that that just is unimaginable
and the water and all, and no, it's not fun,
trust me, No, I can't imagine it. It was scary
enough just going through the forty mile on hour winds.
So yeah, our prayers and condulences everybody that's been affected.
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I know there's several people have died already and going
through all this stuff, and I feel bad for folks,
no doubt about it. Especially the flooding that is that
is horrible. But we will thank Helene for giving us
some showers because we it definitely has helped to break
the draft that we've had in our particular area. Here.
All right, quick break, We come back, a little home
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all that kinds of stuff that we probably experienced yesterday.
And then Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with
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Speaker 1 (14:36):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the Man, the myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to home improvement show host in the entire
Solar System. His website Garysullivan online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen,
here he is the one, the only Mister Gary Suliban Listen,
(15:00):
how the world are you wind blowing. How about you,
Jesus Pete.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
You know last week you and I had this chat
and the chat was about watering our foundation because we
had a drought and Nicklay was pulling away. And on
Monday when I woke up, I heard someone on the
radio making fun of somebody on the radio telling them
(15:26):
to water their foundation. Then on Thursday we had a
hurricane or thereabouts, many of us did, and I'm just
here to tell you not to water your foundation.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Was that person on money making fun.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Heve's questioning me? I thought he would ever question you
they I think so, yeah, And I really wanted to say,
well where you been for thirty years? Because I've been
telling everybody do that for at least thirty years. So
I wasn't going to do that, but I didn't. I
let it go. Okay, But anyway, how things change in
(16:03):
a week, my.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Friend, Yes, definitely. But by the way, you know, I
always think of you for some reason during the week,
and I think it was Monday night. When do we
have the first good front that came through Monday night
or too Monday night? I think, right, I thought of
you on Monday night because of.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Because of.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Oh Petricore huh, petrocore from the smell of that front
coming through. Yeah, petrik ore. Remember that was our word
of the day many.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Years Well, I guess I don't remember. But then when
you told me, I thought, it's gotta be with the
whole ring.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Distinct usually pleasant odor that's associated with rainfall, especially following
a warm dry period. Remember you could. You're exactly right.
Plant oils and this and the blacktop oils all get released,
and that's what and you smell that earth is called petricore.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Actually I was out early Tuesday morning and it was misty,
but it didn't Monday during or Tuesday during the day.
It didn't rain much, but I do remember in the
morning it had that smell.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You could smell that, Yeah, you could.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, petricore.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
You're very good.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No, actually, I think you told me the word I
many years ago.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Well, you know, yeah, that was the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I guess it was many years ago. I remember that
ever since. So I was thinking you when I smell
that front, gu well, I'll move it.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Well, thank you, I'll move that up to my more
current brain file and say, if I.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Remember that earthy smell, I think a gary Sulliman.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Yes, it is a little earthy out there.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Do you think a few basements leave yesterday?
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Oh geez, you know what? Yeah, and there's nothing worse
than that. I had also had a friend had a
sewer back up and got that kind of stuff going on,
you leaky basements, and it's really it is. It's worrisome.
I remember years ago I was on a job site
with ever Dry waterproofing, interviewing homeowner and different things, and
(18:13):
I secific, remember this lady going. I just finally had
to get it fixed because every time rain was in
a forecast, I would just get so nervous, like is
it gonna leak? Is it not gonna leak? And you know,
once they start leaking, they're gonna leak. They're gonna leak. Yeah,
you know, I mean you gotta you know, not how
many times I said, you know, water takes a path
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path of the least resistance, and certainly the amount of
rain we had, you can see how rain does that.
I mean, it really does take a path of least resistance.
Whether it's your home, whether it's around your foundation, whether
you're in the mountains, it's going to go where there's
little to no resistance.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, I'll tell you what I looked up last night
and then this morning as I was pulling away because
I had the headlights on the front of the house. Uh,
there's all kinds of brands and sticks and leaves and
things in those gutters. Yeah, so for sure, after this
thing you're blown through, I think everybody's gonna have to
take a look at that, because I'm serious. I mean
there were stuff sticking out of there.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
It's like, well I got for today's show. Seriously, I've
got a little lists. You know, examine chimneys, examined roofs,
examine gutters. H not only just clean them out, but
you know, with the amount of rain and wind, did
they you know, things move. People don't realize how things move.
Down spouts during droughts, they started not lining up, and
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now they're wet and they got pushed again. I'm telling
you you got to check the alignment, making sure all
that water is being taken away from the foundation. We've
talked about it for years, but we'll emphasize it today.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
For sure, unless you watered your foundation like you've always recommended.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Yeah, some guy's talking about water in his foundation.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, well that'd be me.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Maybe somebody else did too.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That's all right. Well, you know we've jointly talked about
that for years and years and years.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Well we did, and I remember getting pushed back then
and it kind of went away, and then that was
the first time I heard it. But you got heavy soil.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It's something you wanted to do.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
But I think mother nature once again has corrected our problem.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I hope, so put a little din in it anyway.
Gary Sullivan always a pleasure, have a great show, take care,
stay or to be happy. I thank you. Garry Sullivan
online dot Com. Quick break, we come back. You know
who's coming up next. Fucky Joe Boggs. Here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson, Time
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Buggy Joe Bogg.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
So the petracore is in the air.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Did you did you sense that on Monday night?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, I'll tell you it it yes, and en fire fact,
it was so funny because my wife and I were
out on the front porch and it was just you know,
because that that scent is so distinctive and uh, and
we were but we hadn't we hadn't smelled it for
so long rong that that was kind of a and
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it was it was such a welcome scent. Of course
we've had a little bit more of a welcoming scent.
And then maybe we even needed in parts of the
country right with the with the hurricane, and it was interesting.
You know, we Ron sent our good friend and meteorologists
slash arborists. You know, that's how I did that. I
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hope he's listening, meteorologists, because Ron rothis really is very
good at keeping us all informed. And you know, he
sent a message about how it would take a tropical
storm to break this severe drought that we've experienced in
Ohio and of course other points south West Virginia has
been most of the state has been in that exceptional category.
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So so he sent that message, and and you know
I responded by saying it, you know, the worst thing
that happened to us is that our rainfall totals are
are tallied and kept at at the airport that's in
northern Kentucky. And that's that's very common across the country, right,
you know, the the official you know place where the
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well when I guess that was a a couple of
weeks ago, when was it, Well, that was actually a
week ago thereabouts. We had that we had a uh,
highly localized rainfall where they got about two inches right
there at the airport, and and we didn't get anything
not not too far away, right, I mean, you know
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the crow fives. But then that gave everyone a sense
of relief that oh, you know, the drop must be broken.
And and that was my point with the message back. Well,
I kinda in some ways I'm glad I sent a message,
because that's one of those things where have you ever
noticed when you start, you know, really complaining about something,
it you know, just those complaints suddenly caused the universe
(25:41):
to spin on its axis and and things change, right, Yes,
so or even better when we when we go to
the opposite direction, you know, we declare, as I did that, boy,
it's going to take a lot of rain to break
this drought, and then it happens.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Why didn't you declare that earlier?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I don't know if that's all it took. You know,
i'd done it, you know, back in early September, late August.
I don't know, I didn't think of that. Well, it
has been pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Remarkable, you know, and I really does. And I'm not
I don't think I'm stretching the truth too much here,
because it seemed like after that first good shower came
through Monday night, Tuesday, we had you know, pretty good showers. Yeah,
I mean it did. And but it was amazing to
me how all of a sudden, how quickly lawn started
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to turn green.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah. And and but if you recall from my message,
I was a bit concerned about.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That, right, Yeah, I know, I mean that's what you said. Well,
I hope it doesn't get you know, things fired up
and teased and all whatever. Yeah, but it was amazing
how quickly that changed. And then as we continued on,
I have Grolo Sumac in front of our house. Get
us put on two inches of new growth in the
last two days.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's incredible. All this time, just really well. And and
that's I think what we're going to see. We're going
to see some strange things, because you know, here's another
strange thing. And you know, we had heavy rain at
my home and in the backyard it slopes down and
the neighbor of the back neighbors slightly slopes up, so
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there's a bit of a you know, just a bit
of a low area between the the two lawns. And
normally if we get the kind of rain we had yesterday,
particularly some of the really heavy dawnpours that we experienced,
there's a little river out there there. And we always
noticed that it's kind of how we gauge, you know,
if we've really had a deluge, right, I mean, and
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there was nothing right and that kind of goes back
to something else. I guess, you know, listeners are going
to think, well, gee, w Joe just came on and
complained today. But you know, there there are some I
think complaints out you know, for example, I really appreciated
that that anyone you know, kind of saying, you know,
(28:11):
making fun of Gary and the they don't understand clay
if they if they didn't heed Gary's advice, right, because
it is truly the amount of pressure. And here's what
I've always found to be just fascinating. The amount of
pressure exerted when clay expands with water or contracts is
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all the way down run at. It was based all
the way down at the particle level. That's one step above. Well,
it's microscopic. And what's happening is that clay particles. If
you picture a lamination, you know, you picture something like
like plywood, you know, laminated wood, So you see the
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different layers, right, Well, that's what a clay particle looks like.
But in between the laminations, they're not glued together. Those
laminations can float, they can they expand, and in between
we have these these what we call negative sights. That
means there are negative charges. Well water, of course, one
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end of a water molecule is positively charged, the other
end is negative, right, so it has you know, polar sides,
just like a bar magnet. Well, when the water gets
attracted to those clay particles negative sites, it causes the
laminations to expand. Now think about this, we're talking at
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the microscopic level. Yet that expansion can exert a force
that can crack concrete. It can crack. I mean, you know,
there are pictures you can see and I've seen it
myself where you know, a basement wall cinderblock, well, cinder
block is still you know, held together with concrete right well,
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you know, in between. And so that's a real thing.
But what was happening at my home was there the cracks.
And I have some and it's gonna sound kind of funny,
but I do have a few cracks that tend to
be in one location that I can I can monitor.
It's right off my garden. And that's pretty common too
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if you have if you have high clay content, very
often these cracks show up in a general location. You
can you can see them. And you know, I was
getting concerned if we still had our pet, Yorky, I
think he'd have fallen in one of those cracks that
was getting very big. But that rain, you could just
could just the water was going into these cracks. Now,
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of course, this is where you have clay soil, not
where you have other soil textures. But that's what happened yesterday.
It was just amazing. So the you know, a lot
of times we will hear, well, you know the heavy
rain after drought and it all ran off. Well that's
not true for a lot of soil textures. Right, for clay,
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the first thing it has to happen is those cracks
will take up the water. It'll drain into them, and
then the you know, the clay swells and then things
could possibly run off, you know what I'm saying. So
so that that heavy rain actually was extremely helpful, but
we did not notice. It was very interesting just going
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out in about the neighborhood. There was really very little runoff.
You know, our streams didn't flood.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
What's interesting because the dan, even Dan Gleasting even coming
in this morning that there's always puddles in their front
yard after you know, a rain like that, and he
said it was nothing. It was still it was, you know,
and they had gotten the four inches or whatever, but
there were no puddling. And going home from work yesterday
looking at the creeks alongside and the ditches alongside of
the road, and I was still at five o'clock when
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it was really coming down, really weren't The water was there,
but not like you like, you know, flooding or anything.
Like that, and so it a lot of it was, yeah,
and we had some pretty good sized cracks in our
landscape beds on the west side. So and I think
this morning I really couldn't see those like I did
yesterday or a couple of days ago. Anyway, So you're right,
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it is amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
It's yeah. So teaches us a little about you know,
about you know, soil physical properties that are very, very important,
and I guess you probably just should let people contemplate
them during the break.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Is that I think that. I think that I think
that'll work. Think about that, folks while we take a
break and we come back with part two of Buggy
Joe Boggs here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
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That's it. Thank you, Joe, pleasure talking with you. Next week,
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it was well.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I didn't hear the click. It's really kind of funny
because you know, during the commercial break, I obviously you're
you're going to mute me otherwise you'll you'll hear people
singing and dancing and all that. But uh, but I
didn't hear the click. So yes, yes, there were there
were crickets going on.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And whether you hear hick, whether you hear clicks or not,
you got to keep talking. I just need to click
that time for you. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You know, I'm going to switch gears radically. I got well,
you know, as you know we talked about last week.
No one's sitting, you know. But as we talked about
last weekend, you know, I came off of a vacation
down the Smokies, and of course that part of the
country thankfully was not hit as hard as just to
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the east of the Smokies, with Ashville and the surrounding
area really getting unpreced in a drainfall. So so we're
kind of lucky that way. But for some reason, and
you know, this is how it goes right with us,
you know, our thoughts kind of wonder when you're on
a long drive and the am I I started thinking
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about something wrong that you and I grew up with this,
and then we didn't grow up in an area where
it was a problem. Obviously, however we grew up you know,
with the bowl we will still being you know, something
of a great concern, right, And I didn't know this
until not many years ago, because you know, that insect
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was just so it is still and still be so devastating, uh,
you know, to cotton growing in the United States, and
it's seriously, it was at one point just seriously limiting
the amount of cotton that the US could produce, well
unbeknownst to him, myself and a lot of other people,
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because we just weren't paying attention.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Currently, the bowl we has been totally eradicated from all
parts of the US except right along the Texas Mexican border.
And I think that I think that the reason that
that I didn't we didn't we don't have cotton in
southern Ohio, right, I mean, it's not however, you know,
I love cotton shirts, you know, I love cotton clothing.
(37:44):
And it is interesting because while I was down in
uh in Tennessee, I've you know, had a conversation with
a gentleman who was from Georgia and and this this
whole thing came up. He found out, you know, I
was an entomologist by training, and and then we kind
of slanted into the Bowl Evil and and he was
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he really I mean, his his perspectives really amazed me.
That they are just now it's it's an insect that's
receded off into history. And I just think that's kind
of important to bring up because whenever we have disastrous
situations with tests, uh, sometimes you know, we do find
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ways of overcoming them. Sometimes it requires nature, you know,
playing a strong hand. For example, we've talked about brownlomerated
stink bugs and how as they've moved west, you know,
the three p's predators, parasitoids, and pathogens have have limited.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
That's the Bowl Evil song.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Do you remember who did that? I don't Brook Benton.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Oh my goodness, Well there you go. Anyway, I mean anyway,
So the bottom line, though, is is that okay with
a lot of these pasts, like I like I said,
brown marmrit stink bugs, they you know, nature has really
played the major role with bold evils, though, it's been
science and discovery of the of the attractant that you know,
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can't attract the weevils, the application of again new technology
that came on the scene, you know, through research, and
as I said, you know, you talked to the average
person out there that doesn't grow cotton or isn't in
the South, or even some folks who are in the South,
they may not be aware that this is quite a story.
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It's quite a success story in science to say that
this insect that everywhere from Arizona all the way across
to the Carolinas and Virginia really limited the production of
a major of a ma your agricultural crop. And it's
just basically it's it's gone, uh, not found in those
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areas at all.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know what's interesting is that we we actually do
grow cotton more and more every year as an ornamental plant.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yes, it is a beautiful plant, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah. Well, the flowers are outstanding.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
They are well, I mean, my goodness, doesn't they look
a little bit like hibiscus.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Just like just like it. And then of course you
get the cotton balls, which you know, who's experienced that
if you live in the north obviously hardly anybody, and
it's a it's a it's been a great ornamental plant
for folks growing in containers or you know, along with
the summer annuals we've done. We've done them every year.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
It's pretty cool, and they're showstoppers because as you said,
you know, it's it's it is simply amazing. Well, my
long suffering family, you know, anytime I would see something
on vacation that I thought, oh my goodness, uh, we
got to go look at that. So, you know, years ago,
I mean as we're young and driving down seventy five,
you know, I'm sure we were going towards Florida or
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to Florida, and my goodness, the cotton was just coming
in and I'd never seen that. So right off one
of the exits and right I mean right along a
cotton field, just so that I could walk in and
just look at this, and it was amazing. And of
course we saw this I think newer breed that had
these little tiny sticks with little cotton that it was
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the Q tip cotton plant.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Really, is that where they came from? That's you know what.
My uncle lives in Ashboro, North Carolina, and we were
out one day again, riding on a motorcycle somewhere, and
all of a sudden, I realized we were driving through
these cotton fields because it was on both sides and
was white. And then we got to where they were
they roll it like the hay like that you do
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that with the hay now the way they are, I
was like, I've never I'm pull it off the side
of the road. I'm like, this is cool. I've never
ever seen this.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
It is amazing thing and it's a and it's a
to me.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
It's a great thing to share with people, you know
on the show here because that's just you know, Ohio
huge agricultural state, obviously, but that is just a part
of agriculture that we don't see because we can't grow
it in fields. But you're right, the ornamental value.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I came across that, you know, some years ago at
the you know, Ohio Governor's residence. And I have to
tell you Ron that they were the plants were in
full bloom, and at first I wasn't accepting what my
eyes were seeing, but they are now. You have to
buy the plants, you know, for people that don't know this,
(42:44):
I mean the seed it just the season is is
too long for the plant for us to start with
seeds in the ground. Obviously, Yeah, you plant, you buy
the plant. But I'll tell you next year, I'm going
to have to look for it, because I think.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
It's the people don't have to look for it.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
We grow it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I'll get it to you.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Well, I will be there and then we'll make a
shirt out of it or at least something.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Bugget Joe Bogs always a pleasure, Have a great uh
week and go bucks, go bugs, take care of bye.
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you do. Now do yourself a favor. Got some moisture
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back in the ground where you going to plant that
tree or two or three. Keep planting those native plants,
be pollinator friendly. Pamp for your worms. They're dry, they're
getting moistened back up again, but pamp for your worms.
Get the kids a dog with involved with guarding, and
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See you.
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