Ron Wilson 9/6/2025 Hour 1

A cup of Joe to kick things off.  Also your calls and questions.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Eight, one hundred and eight two three, eight, two five five.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy. We are
talking about yard in this month of September. It has
been beautiful weather, it has been. I don't think you
could ask for anything better. As a matter of fact,
you know, when it comes to executive producers, I don't
think you could ask for anyone better. Oh, you're serious.

(00:59):
When it comes to producers of the show talking about Danny,
can't ask for anybody better.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
So there you go, there you go. So both of you.
I throw you both into that category, throw us both
under them. I'm honored and privileged.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
How's it going? It was great? It was great week weather,
wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's timer Joe Strucker, Cup of Joe, our executive producer.
Find out what's going on in our website at Ron
Wilson on nine dot com facial page in the garden
with Ron Wilson. I'm not gonna ask you what's going
on your lawn of garden. You don't have to because
I don't have to. We know, you know, how long
have I been saying that we're getting into the bur months.

(01:38):
It's gotta be since we've been doing this, oh, without
wearing shoes. Yeah, and it's like, you know, threw me
offer November. First time you told me, I was like,
what I said? You know, my mom used to always
call it the bur months, Right, you don't wear shoes.
I I must have seen at least four or five
other people weather people use that term this week.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hm. Where are they getting this? You know where they go?
Where they're getting it? Right here? Yeah, they're stealing my
stuff and not giving any credit. There's no doubt. Well,
I steal my mom's stuff. I'm not giving her any.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Couple of things we've said on this show over the years,
it made mainstream, but I just got a sayings and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I just thought that was kind of interesting. I was like, oh, yeah,
the bur months yep, where we just started the burmo
no sticks anymore. That's that's everybody steals everything, but we
are steal it and claim it for thine own. Yep,
we are on the bur months. And uh it's beautiful.

(02:40):
I mean as much as I love the hot weather,
I loved this weather probably second.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh my gosh, it's been great. And you know what,
I purposely went outside the other day. It was cool
in the morning without any shoes on. Yeah, don't tell
your mom please. Yeah, did you get sick? I didn't
get sick, but that cold grass felt so good walking
through that nice.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's a good feeling. There you go cool.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Matter of fact, I read an article, so I don't
know if we brought this up two or three months
ago about it was called go stand in the grass.
How walking barefoot and grass can be so relaxing if
you just chills like forest bathing. But just go walk
in the grass and walk through the grass with your
with no shoes on, and just get that feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, I'm not going to do that in my yard
because I got four dogs.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Uh yeah, your yard or cow field, horse field, now
you don't want to do that. But of course if
you step in a pile of horse manure, that's good
luck for horse people. Accidentally, no purpose, that's I guess
if you want to call it that. Never heard of
that before for just no myth, I've never heard of
that before. Yeah, stepping a horse it's good luck. Okay,

(03:55):
look for it, but it has to be accident. Has
been an accident. That can't be You can't just see
it over there and then step on it. Okay, yes,
the the Burns Greenville, Indian Greensburg, Greensburg sold me it's Greensburg's.
Uh yeah, from the that's from the food house with

(04:15):
the tree in it. Yes, it is, I know, on
the top of us, not on top of it. Okay, sure,
growing out the roof. So yeah, w root beer it
was the street still there? Anything else still serving frosty
root beers? Anybody else you want to?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Hoosier boys?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Did they have a they have a pony keg there.
I'm sure the I'm sure they do. So they put
the bypass in. That's just ruins every time. A small
town anyway. Yeah, it's a great weather, yes, and you
know it's going to be a beautiful, beautiful rainfall this week.
It was scattered. Yeah, it was light in some areas.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
A little bit a little bit last night and not
not really in my area. Was born east of the city,
but because he was catch this morning of having some
showers here and they're clearing out. But we need the rainfall.
It is dry out there. We'll take more rain if
you can.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
But yeah, I think that helped out. You know, got
a little bit of moisture back in the top of
the ground. So but yeah, that's temperatures are right. People
are out planting and I'll tell you what been checking
around and the gardensaurs are selling.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And it's every year we talk about things getting early
and earlier all the time. Yeah, before we bring in
orange we call them orange orbs, not pumpkins. But before
we bring in pumpkins and gores.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I always used to watch the other like Kroger and
produce places when they start bringing those in because you
don't want to get them in too early. You know,
they're they're really soft when they're early. Got to wait
a little bit. So it's usually about the second or
third week of September we start bringing that in. Now,
if you look around first weekend in September, there you go,
they're packed. Everybody's got them in early. And the produce

(05:56):
suppliers here, like Freeze Brothers said, they are just jammed
and they're never like that this this first ten days
or so. Every year, things get earlier and earlier all
the time. His fall decorating thing is just crazy. That
is very true, and I'm seeing it. And again you
and I get on this thing about the inflatables and stuff.
How many people in your neighborhood are already decorating for Halloween.

(06:20):
I haven't seen many Halloween things, but it's it's come
where in our in our area, the neighborhoods. We were
out last night and they are everywhere. Why would you
be setting this stuff up? I'm not gonna runt two months,
two months before, two months before Halloween. Well, I haven't
seen many in my in my area, but the stores
are selling it, oh like crazy. Yeah, it's this. It's

(06:42):
second to Christmas now when it comes to decoration.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah. Yeah, And and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna admit.
I mean I I have been looking at Halloween decorations too.
I mean I haven't said anything. It's cool, so I
haven't set anything up yet. But but when would you
normally do that? A couple of weeks before Halloween? Maybe
there was a guy last night that was putting probably
the week that Ohio State is on a by you.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Go, twenty five tombstones in his front yard already. Now
the grass is still growing. You gotta keep mowing. Yeah,
you're gonna be mowing for two more months.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I forget that.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
He's gonna weed whipper around all that stuff. I mean,
I don't I don't get it. I mean, and there's
those huge skeletons that are seventy five feet tall you
can buy for three hundred dollars or whatever. Yeah, they're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah there, Yeah, there's a Yeah, there's one of the
not in my neighborhood, but in the township. It's over
on one of those main drags. They got three of them,
and they and they, and they keep them up all year.
Well yeah, and that's that's the other thing. It's really stinks.
But they'll keep them up all year and they'll redecorate

(07:44):
them for every holiday.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Chris, And it's like, why would you put a wreath
and stuff on this skeleton for? To me, that's just
well right now they're dressed like Joe Burrow. So great.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So but yeah, I'm with you there. I don't get it.
I'm with you there. These times they are change, these
times they are becoming quite different. Man. So who are
the guests today? Guess do you have any guests?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yes, we do. We have Rita hiking Felt. You're gonna
go out in the garden and talk with Rita and
her recipe today what you're going to tell everybody what
it is. We're going to talk about that and the
history behind that, and then after hers Peggy A. Montgomery.
We love having Peggy am because it's that time of
the year to start thinking about planting those fall babs.
Are they fall bulbs or spring balbs? Well, we're going

(08:30):
to talk up with Peggy in about that as well.
You Yep, Gary Sullivan, Yep, Buggy Joe bas. By the way,
it's Gary's birthday, Gary, Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
The old man is eighty five now now much older
than gets. He just gets much older than us all
the time.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And Danny Gleason, So there you go.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Website is Ron Wilson online dot com along with the
Facebook page why do you ask me? I do you
forget in the garden with Ron Wilson?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And uh, you know, last week's graphic got so much
feedback that I put a new one up today, So
check that one out.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
How did he get brutus to be in the garden
Because he knows you that happened because he knows you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
He knows you.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You're the one that took care of it.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's the only way.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's your influences. Well, that's it's the Joe Strecker influence. Well,
you know, I mean I did help when you bring
on some of these shows that you produce. Hey, I
did help them win the nactnat You reach out, you
bring in the big ones.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Helped the Ryan Day win the Natty.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So he can the only one, absolutely, absolutely, Tony Snow
I still that's still that was the best one. Nice guy.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
But what was I gonna say? Oh? Uh, you know,
uh the play that that the play that won the
game for Ohio State when they played Texas the first
time in the in the tournament, when Sawyer sacked yours
and brought it back.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Ye, it's my play at you called that basically?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can. I've been calling plays for four years.
There you are, I've been We've been saying it for
how many years? I know? Ye, same as the burns
and uh let's see so uh so the the chat
room's rocket and rolling as usual and the uh there's

(10:25):
a couple of posts from Buggy Joe this week. Uh
kind of brought back the bagworm one from last week
and kind of put reput put that back up because
that's kind of important. There's a yellow jacket one and
the yell the yellow jackets are pretty nasty. A couple
of weeks ago when I went camping, Uh, there was

(10:45):
bees and yellow jackets and all the nastiness all over
the place. So yeah, it's they're all over the place.
They like those alcohol. There's adult beverages. You were drinking. Yeah,
there's that was happening. Yeah, but I think it was.
We're on along on a lot of the other stuff too. Okay, So, uh,
the Rita's recipe of the week, Well, yeah, not Rita's recipe.

(11:08):
It's the Nell's hot pickled pepper recipe.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes, and it doesn't have to be hot pep pickles.
It's just pickle pep pickle pepper recipe. But yes, it's
my mom's.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yep. Nel Wilson, yep, yep. Do this every year around
this time, and.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Like the cherry Bounce recipe, we get a bazillion request
for this recipe. It's so simple and so easy. Even
if you do it, Joe Strecker could pickle peppers using
my mom's recipe. It's that easy, and everybody that uses
it will come back and say, gosh, gosh, that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Was so easy.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
It was so easy and they are fantastic.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You can use it for green tomatoes, you can use
it for pe you can use it for all kinds
of stuff. But that's her pickle pickle pepper recipe.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And there you go. There you go. It's myer and
print it off.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So print it off and use it. Give it a try.
Just do a few pints or whatever you want to
do a few pints. Pints while you're doing the pints,
while you're doing your cannon the pints, you could do
a few pints. Huh, Shashito peppers.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
We have to do something.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I can't believe other people grew shasheito peppers this year.
We've been talking about them. There was, and they loved them.
There was a I don't know if this was a sidebar.
I don't know if this was just baloney or if
this was true. Someone posted a What they did was
they grew a a one of those really hot peppers.

(12:33):
One was a botchcola or a scorpion reaper or whatever.
But instead of watering it with real water, they watered
it with colored water, and it was a different color.
And they said it was because they used colored water. Now,
is that baloney or is that? I mean you did
that in science with the lettuce and stuff like that.

(12:53):
You could change the celery and change the color by
using colored water.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So they had like one plan. I don't know about that.
They had one plant that was like purple. They had
another plant that was blue blue pepper was just the
peppers change colors. Yeah, you think that was AI photoshop
Maybe No, I don't know about that one. Yeah. I
was kind of skeptical. Yeah, I was just kind of

(13:20):
that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
You can do that with like celery and stuff like that,
and they do it with some flowers like carnations, you're
going to change color, But I don't know about the pepper.
I see the flower doing that. I kind of thought
it was a little boloney. Yeah, but it seems like
the color it would get leached out of there. But
I don't know. I was just my first guest would

(13:41):
be no, I don't think that I'm going to default
to the expert. And when we contacted, yeah, find the
expert where we is out there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And the planet of the week this week is the
toad lily. I love toad lilies.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
They're they're cool little lilies, you know, and it looks
like kind of orchidy, kind of a I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
They're really cool. There's small flowers, but a little exotic too. Yeah,
and you.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Just kind of quiet little plant perennial grit loves the shade,
kind of hangs in there. You want to plant it
close to the pathway or the edge of the bed
so you can see it when it does flower. But
it's a late summer early fall bloomer and just kind
of an unrecognized perennial that's absolutely gorgeous. Those little flowers
are really cool. So check it out totally.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
All right. Well, that's it. That's it for me.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
You sure I'm out of here when you get home. Yes,
your mom's not looking. Yeah, take your shoes off. Walk
through the grass. Oh cool, grass feels pretty dark, all right.
Joe Streker, our executive producer. If you like what you
see on our website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson, Joe Streker, you
had everything to.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Do with it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
If there's something you question, you don't like, don't think
it should be there, Joe Strecker, You had nothing to
do with that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Who should we get in touch with doctor Z doctor Z.
Now we're would he be in Washington, d C? Really?
Doesn't he have a garden there? Number eighty three?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Really?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And I've seen him riding around Washington, DIZ. What he's
got a vespa, a vespa. Who's in the site. He's
got a sidecars, a sidecar and the side car has
got bowser bowser bow bow bows dog.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Who's on the back seat. It's sweetheart and soon to
be soon to be missus missus doctors is doctor Z doctor.
He's a doctor and missus is the way they introduce
people doctor and missus doctor and missus ZO, doctor and
missus Z.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Wow. I love it, Thank you very much. Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again.
That toll for number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Joe and I kind of rambled on
there a little bit, so got about a minute and
a half to go before we go back to the
bottom of this break. I do want to remind you
our plant picture of the week. Scroll back through and
if you've not looked at them in the you know,
over time, scroll back through and see some of the

(19:18):
plants of the weeks from previous weeks.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
One of them that came up that somebody asked me about. Uh,
we had talked about a couple of weeks ago. And
I think it flies under the radar. And one of
the reasons being is when you see this plant in
your local nursery, your local independent garden center, you kind
of look at it and go it just kind of
looks like a wild honeysuckle kind of does kind of,

(19:43):
but it has so many great aspects to it throughout
the season. It's great. It's called seven sunflower seven sun
so in flower. Seven sunflower hepticodium is the genus for this,
and like I say, seven sunflower, it's a really cool
plant in the fact that it's a multi stem. It's

(20:03):
a large shrub where you can live it up into
a smaller tree, multi stem tree exfoliating bark, which is outstanding.
Almost looks like a you know, it's it's as much
as like a river burst, but it's more flaky, comes
off in pieces, so you've got that for a year
round characteristic. The leaf is okay, you know, no big
deal in the fall, all of a sudden, and I'll

(20:24):
tell you about this. After the break. It starts to
go into flower late summer and into the early fall,
and it gets even better after that. I'll tell you
more about it because I think it's one of those
plants it just flies under the radar, So I want
to get more attention to it. Eight hundred eight two
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
We're talking yard name eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. Before we went into the break talking
about our plant picks of the week, and you know,
we I always try to find something a little bit unusual,
something a little bit different that you really enjoy in
your yard. And sometimes I have some of the basics,
but the particular plan I had a couple of weeks ago,

(23:22):
we did buck Eyes and you know buckeyes. There's some
really nice buckeyes on the on the market today. They
don't get the leaf scorch, don't get the leaf blotch
that some others do. And of course you get the
buck eyes at the end of the year, which are
really cool. Great for the as far as the native
plant and all. And we featured at last Saturday, well
the Saturday before that, I had picked up a plant.

(23:44):
It's a woody plant that's been around for a long
time now. It's not a native but and when you
go to look at it at the gardens there, look
I was mentioning earlier. You look at it, you kind
of go, oh, this is like an old honeysuckle And
it is a in the honeysuckle family, also related viburnums
and related to Forscythia. So it you know, the shrub

(24:05):
during this and I say shrub, it's a large growing
shrub or it can be limbed up into a small
tree form multi stemmed. But as as the plant's going
through the summer season, the growing season, you know, it
comes out in this kind of glossy, nice glossy leaves,
fairly large. You know, it's okay, just a normal shrub
very you know, tough, durable woody plant that's you know,

(24:28):
nice nice leaves on top. But by late summer, and
this started about from in our area anyway, about ten
days ago, it starts to flower. And I'm talking a
lot of flowers. I'm talking. I'm talking all the ends
of the branches flowers, and they are a white jasmine
like flower, a little bit of fragrance, real sweet, get

(24:51):
up and you listen to or smell them. Listen to
them here. You listen to them if you want to,
because if you got a real close and listen to them,
you gotta hear about every pollinator that's on the plant
it enjoying these white, beautiful flowers. So during the growing season,
just a good glossy green leaf. But once we get
toward the late summer and that starts the flower with
those white flowers throughout the entire plant, jasmine like slightly

(25:15):
fragrant flowers. The pollinators, it's a magnet and they love it,
all of them, bees, butterflies, all the pollinators. They love
this thing. A great source of nectar. And what's interesting
is the flowers last for several weeks. So this isn't
something that just flowers for ten days and it's done.
It flowers for two or three weeks easily, maybe even

(25:38):
a little bit longer depending on the weather. And you know,
you for a late season bloomer to help out the pollinators.
This plant is outstanding for a woody plant, you know,
for a woody shrub or small tree. But it's called hepticodium.
You might not find it everywhere. Seven sunflower is the
common name, and that's s N. Seven O end flower.

(26:03):
But it's out there, and I think Monroe and a
couple of the name brand nurseries are growing some nice,
little bit nicer selections than just the straight species. But
it's it's there.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
But again, don't let that fool you. When you see
this thing come into flower, it is outstanding. But here's
the kicker, but white. There's more after it's done with
the white flowers. All right, those white flowers, all of
a sudden, everything starts to turn red and they have

(26:35):
the bracts that were there forming those flowers now all
turned from a white all of a sudden into a
good solid, deep red. And that lasts again. Once it
does that. Once they developed that, which is another great display,
it lasts for another two or three weeks, so you
get like five weeks of spectacular fall color flower color

(27:01):
out of the hepticodium or seven sunflower. So it goes
from this really nice white all the pollinators to those
clumps turning a really nice, solid, deep red which really
stands out in the fall. There's really no fall color
to the leaves, kind of a yellow fade out to
a brown, so not much color there. But I'm telling

(27:21):
you that's six five six weeks of what it gives
you in late summer and early fall is absolutely gorgeous,
and the pollinators will love you for it, all right.
And by the way, I didn't mention I did earlier.
I did mention this in a segment, the fact that
it has exfoliating bark, so as it gets older, that
exfoliating bark is very nice and you get the two

(27:42):
tone color, so you get good winter characteristics out of
this plant as well. Again, one of those plants that
flies under the radar. It's like, I say, a couple
of the name brand nurseries that supply a lot of
garden centers are now growing a couple cultivars of which
are outstanding.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
There.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It'sti a little bit more compact, a little bit nicer
looking plant, but again it's worth it to do this,
and I would suggest you grow it as a multi stemmed,
limbed up small tree. They can get fifteen twenty feet
tall and fifteen feet wide with no problem. So use
it as a small tree. That's the way I would
look at It'll be a shrub when you first buy it.
Thing goes up. But again, it's one of those plants

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that flies on the radar. And as much as we're
trying to push late flowering plants for all those pollinators,
that is one you need to take a look at,
so keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Please.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's called hepticodium or seven sunflower, and again you can
find all of those on our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com, so be sure and check that out.
And by the way, fall is here, there's no doubt
about it. We're having great weather so far. It looks
like good weather. Maybe a little bit warmer next week,
but still great weather. What we're not having right now
is a lot of rainfall. It's been very sporadic, a

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little bit here, a little bit there. You know, we
had a pretty good shower in our area a couple
of days ago, but not everywhere. So again you've got
to be watching that rain gauge. Fall is a great
time for planting. I cannot stress how much of a
great time for planting fall can be, but it can
also be in some areas a little bit drier. Used

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to seem like we got some fall rain, you know,
it seemed like we got timely rainfalls. But as we
cooled in the past, seems to be staying a little
bit drier. But it's worth the watering and planting in
the fall for the benefits of planting in the fall.
All right, that's just the bottom line. And I can't
encourage you enough. And it's so encouraging right now to
see garden centers their busiest. Heck, early on, folks are

(29:41):
out planting tree shrubs, replacing boxwood. We'll talk about that
in a minute after the break, but out in planting
and getting ready and we're even seeing them mumps and
things like that starting to go out. So folks are
switching out those planters and now looking at the mumps.
And by the way, when you're buying mums, garden mums,
most of the time to label garden mumps. Now there are

(30:01):
some selections out there, some species that seem to be
a little bit hardier than others to come back for you.
A lot of times, some nurseries will grow them just
for the color, not for the heartiness. Check with your
nursery they'll tell you for sure. But either way, they're
typically sold as a garden mum, not as a hardy mum.
And if you want to get them to come back,

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the earlier you plant them, the better off you are.
Some folks will take them up over, win them in
the garage or shed plant them in the springtime. Now
they've got time to root in all summer, and typically
they come back after that, assuming they're hardy for your
particular zone. But when you're buying mums, unless you're having
a party or something that weekend or the following weekend,
buy your mum so that the buds are tight, so

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they're green, or just cracking some color if you want
them to last well into and through October. All right,
so just cracking color or green that's what you're looking
for for later color great around them with other things
like pansies, cold hardy annuals that your garden center's gonna
have that type of thing. But ornamental grasses. You know,

(31:11):
there's somebody millet, all kinds of things that you can
put in there to help out until it starts to
give you good color. But again, get them, get them
tight or just cracking color to make sure they'll last
for you right on through the month of October. So
make sure you do that. And also while you're buying those,
I'm telling you, I'm telling you the most underused fall

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annual and it's a bi annual actually, and it can
be cold hearty depending on where you are. Sometimes they'll
make it through the winter and flour in the springtime
and they kind of mush out. Or the ornamental cabbages
and kales, I'm telling you you're missing out on that one.
And the thing of it is, it's just like this epticodium.
You go look at them right now, and not much color.
You're green.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
It look like something out of the vegetable garden.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I'm throw out there a big red or giant
red mustard green as well. They look like it just
came out of the vegetable garden because it's ornamental cabbage
and kale. But look at the center of those plants.
As it gets colder, they become more colorful. So when
everything's all done, so the end of October first and November,
when the moms are done and everything else is starting

(32:15):
to kind of poop out at that point and weather
starting to cool down. Guess what's getting better? They get
ornamental cabbage and kale, and by Christmas they're outstanding. And
last year was just mild enough. Ours made it into there.
We had a good heavy snowfall covered them over and
as the snow started to melt, that bright pink and
the lavender I don't know if it was one of

(32:37):
the cabbages or kales stuck up through the snow was
absolutely spectacular. But they're way underused. I'm telling you. They
give you color right until the end of the season
or the end of the year, into the holiday season,
and sometimes even longer. Ornamental cabbage and kale. Check them out.
You will absolutely love them. Before we go to the break,
Dick from Dayton, Good.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Morning, day, good morning, how are you? I'm beautiful week?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Wasn't it another beautiful week? That's like three in a row,
three in a row. We'll take them. Yeah, I didn't
see the score last night. What'd your reds do?

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Oh? I heard this morning the bases were loaded, Leah said,
and they they didn't score. They lost five to four.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Uh, oh, you don't.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
I don't know. I don't think this week will tell
the tale if they get the wild card.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh yeah, yep, no doubt this important week.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
It's it's disappointing. But tomorrow, I think it's going to
be a shootout tomorrow. So Burrell's coming back, you know,
yep in that offense.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now, you and your with your family being from the
Cleveland area, you guys kind of have a little competition there.
I know you lean toward the Bengals.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So are they all Browns fans?

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Oh yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
So you guys have a nice rivalry going.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
On a big She always liked the Indians and Guardians.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Yeah, listen, I told you Olden Fell. Carla right, Carla right, yeah,
I hear from here quite a bit. She been planting
a lot of stuff, and boy, she said, the weather
is pretty and up by the lake there, you said
you took a trip.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
We did.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
It's beautiful up there, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
As a matter of fact, we wound up in Olmesteed,
falls quite have had her number, I would have called her.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm uh, we have
a lot going on. There's a car show tomorrow and
then they're going to have people played music tomorrow hopefully.
I usually go to Bible study, so I don't know.
I got to decide because Heather said she wanted me
to maybe go down there and play. They're going to

(34:46):
have all the old fifty seven cars and stuff here
at my little apartment here.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Good.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Good for you. Will remind Heather that you want that
community container garden put in so you all can do
some gardening. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, Dick, good talking
to you as always. Yeah, all right, all right, take care,
bye bye, quick break, we come back. Phone lines you're
open for you. Eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Coming up top the hour, Rita Hikin Fell

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will go with her out into the garden. Bottom of
the hour. Peggy and Montgomery, we're gonna talk spring or
are they fall bulbs? We'll find out here in the
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarding as we get into one of the best times
of the year when it comes to gardening, and it
really is, I mean, just so cooler for you and
me for the plants, uh, transplanting time, planting time, more
rooters developed in the fall than any other time the
rest of the year. Yes, there are a few exceptions
as far as planting in the fall. The later we

(37:52):
get obviously, and then you know, once we start getting
oh into October, I start backing off on plants, any
plants that are in really small cans, because a lot
of times they don't have time to get rooted in
well to prevent them from heaving out of the ground
with freezing and thawing. So sometimes we'll back off on
that groundcover later in the fall. Sometimes we'll back off
on that uh you know so because it's just rooting

(38:15):
at the surface and probably not a good thing going
into the winter. But for the most part, fall, you know, you're, you're, you're,
You've got a lot, a lot of things to be
planted there. And I think one of the things we
do forget about is the fact that if we're planting
in the fall, tree shrubs, evergreens, perennials, roses, grasses, whatever
it may be. That also for the most part means

(38:36):
that can be a great time for transplanting as well.
And we have a tency to forget about that perennials.
That perennial garden is always on the move, right. It's
you know, that clump that was only you thought it
was going to stay twenty four inches in diameter, now
is four feet in diameter taking over the whole garden.
So you have to dig that up and kind of,
you know, keep it controlled. So you've got these other perennials,

(38:57):
which is a great thing to either add to the
rest of your landscape somewhere else in your landscape, or
pot them up and give them away to neighbors and friends,
donate them to gardens, whatever it may be. But perennials
are a great thing to share. And so this time
of the year September early October absolutely wonderful time for
doing any of the pretty much any of the perennials

(39:18):
that are spring bloomers up to midsummer bloomers now late
summer and fall bloomers. Know you wouldn't dig and divide
those this time of the year, but all the rest spring,
early and midsummer bloomers for the most part, you can
and I think the thing to look at too is
if it's dry in your area. You know, sometimes we
deal with that in the fall water those plants, and

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this is true for the woody plants as well, the
trees and shrubs. In that water them about three or
four days in advance, so you get some good moisture
not only in the soil. And we don't want the
muddy when we go to dig. We just want good
moisture in the soil. But most importantly, we hydrate those plants,
so the roots and the plant foliage and the stems
all have good moisture in them when we go to

(40:01):
dig and divide. And again, you know, Iris actually could
have done that back in August, even late July, you
can dig and divide Iris. But you can still do
it now. I'd get on it as soon as possible. Again,
very close to the root, to the surface of the soil.
So you want to get those rooted in as quickly
as you can, so I'd get on those soon.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But this is a.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Great time for digging and planting pa andies. You know,
you've had those p andies large clump that maybe you're
maybe your grandmother gave it to You're inherited from somebody
and you want to share with the rest of the
family or put it somewhere else in the You know,
this is a great time to dig up peenies, bring
up the whole clump, and divide them up and replant them.
And if you're going to do that, especially with the

(40:42):
perennie of the paeonies, go on the internet or email
me and I'll find you the good link that's that
I know is reputable to show you how to dig
and divide those how many you know, looking for the
eyes that are in those, and then how to how
to replant, which is very, very very important because if
you wind up planting them too deep, they don't flower.

(41:03):
They'll grow for you, but they just don't flower. But again,
it's that time of the year to be doing that
type of thing. And if you have some perennials that
you know are looking really rough, Dayli has always come
to my mind this time of the year. They can
be dug and divided, or if they're just looking rough,
but everything you want to keep it in the ground.
Feel free to cut all that dead foliage off. They'll
flush up some new foliage. You know, yet this fall

(41:25):
and look kind of nice get about six inches tall,
Give me some nice green, and then as we start
to get cold, and then towards the holiday season, then
they kind of die back a little bit and you're
good to go, and then they'll come right back up
for you in the springtime. But again, we talk about
fall being such a great time for planting, and it is,
but it's also a great time for transplanting. When you've
got those plants that are in the wrong spot, perennials,

(41:48):
you need to divide, whatever it may be, this is
the time to do it. As a matter of fact,
if you're looking out there next to the sidewalk next
to the house, next to the driveway, and you've got
a shrub or a small tree that it's been there
and it hangs over and you're always cutting it back
and it gets too big for the spot, why why
give yourself all of that hassle and have to be

(42:10):
doing this with this plant all the time. As far
as cutting it back, why don't you just dig it,
move it, put it somewhere else that it can grow
and do its thing naturally, you know. And if you
have to do a little pruning, fine, but move it,
get it out of there and come back and replant.
Great time to plant something that will stay more contained
and fit that particular situation. Again, a great time for

(42:34):
doing something like that as well. I always get the
calls about the other thing is just overgrown, overhanging the sidewalk,
We planted it too close, blah blah blah. If you
can get in there and dig it and take it out,
why not just move it, put it somewhere else in
the landscape, let it do its thing, and put something
else here in the stage is a little bit smaller,
so you know, keep that in mind as well. But
I'll tell you it is. It's a great time to plant.

(42:54):
Get out there, take care of that. And by the way,
as we are planting, all right, especially trees, larger evergreens
in that remember those are targets. They are targets for
a buck slash male deer. They love to rub on
those and mark their territory, all right. So when you're

(43:17):
done planting trees, especially that are four inch caliper trunk
diameter and smaller, don't take your hand off of those.
If you have deer within fifty miles of your house
until you put a tree trunk protector around that that
has to be part of the planting process as you're
planting trees, and by all means, when you stand back
and you're all said and done and you're looking at

(43:38):
that tree trunk protector, make sure you can show me
that root flare. Gotta have that root flare at the
top of the ground, very important for the success of
that tree. Long term quick break, we come back, read
a hike and Feld. We'll join her in the garden,
find out what's going on there. Plus we'll talk about
our recipe of the week news pickled peppers.

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That's my mom.

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And at the bottom of the arpege memory talking about bulbs.

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