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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. As I promised, it is time for
Are you erbally experienced with our ccpcmhor Award winning syndicated journalist.
She is an Appalachian herbal scholar, cooking teacher, media personality,
motivational speaker, motivators Rina Hikinfeld. You can hear her on
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Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the Only, Rita Nader Hike
and Feled Good morning, Well, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You could be my pr agent. I have been, Yes,
you have. You just don't get what Tencent I still get.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Take my Mike cut of the pie. By the way,
a great website. It's about eating dot com. I forgot
to mention that one. How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We are really really good. I heard you and Joe
talk about burn months and I only caught the end
of it. You mean when you're barefoot or not?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
His mom always said the months that lived at end
in er. You don't go outside without your shoes on.
You can't go bare can't go barefoot in the grass
or you'll get it or you'll catch a cold.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, that's so old fashioned. Sounds like some
things not my mom would say, but Ranks mom certainly too. Yeah,
that's what they wore, shoes everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, that's what she believes, so, you know, And maybe
it's the old German mom, you know, thinking that to go.
I don't know, so there you go. So anyway, that's
what I say because I had to slip outside the
other morning. It was cool, and I had got my
shoes on. I stuffed in that grass and I thought
it felt outstanding, how loved.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh yeah, it's funny because most of the kids down
the road where I live, you know, at the end
of the old country road, if you come in the
back way, they show up at my back door all
the time barefoot. And I was barefoot yesterday. Yeah, I
have trouble. No, no, I don't do that anymore. I've
(02:46):
come into the fold, you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Know, And you're wearing the socks. One wearing the socks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, you didn't hear me say that I wear clothes.
I were on perfectly, Okay, legit, how's that all right?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I did read an article a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if I sent that to you or not,
but talking about how kids now, they're you know, almost
writing a prescription telling me to get out and play
in the mud.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, I had heard that, and that's so true. Do
you think of immunity in the first what five years
that they're exposed to all the bacteria outside and all
that stuff. They do better And walking girfoot's so healthy
for you too, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I think so. And I'm sure there's a compromise there
when you, you know, wear shoes and correct your arch.
I don't know, I don't know all that stuff, but yeah,
I think that. And again talking about the the playing
in the mud and eating a little bit of dirt
or whatever. Standing in the grass barefoot is also part
of like forest bathing that they're saying. You know, if
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you go out there, and how many people do that,
just take your shoes off and go stand in the
grass and go walk through your yard. Now Joe said
he wouldn't do that because he has four dogs.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah I heard that. Yeah, there would minds there, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
A few land minds. But you know it's I agree
with him. I think it's just it's outstanding. All right.
Talking with Rita hiking Feld's are you urbally experienced? Her
website about eating dot com? Uh, kind of a special
recipe this week. It's one of those it's almost like
your cherry bounce recipe. It's one of those that folks
like to get. I have never had anybody when you
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put this one out there that has ever said it
didn't work for me. I always get responses two months
from now saying, man, that was the easiest way to
pickle peppers and the flavor was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, yeah, and you know that's from are not our mom?
Your mom? Nel Wilson.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh did you say our mom?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh? We see, Well no, she would be my sip.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
She wouldn't be my mom. But anyway, she pickled peppers
much like the way my mom and grandparents did. Very simple,
and the difference with now and we'll go over the recipe.
My mom just basically used clear vinegar and sometimes water
and now adds a little bit of sugar to take
away the bite. W depending on the peppers you used.
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But it's one that we share every year because it's
it's that good. It's iconic, and I know you love them.
It's so easy. All you do is whatever hot peppers
you gather, you can mix them up and you can
put some sweet ones in there or whatever, and y
a lot of times I'll leave my hole and then
just slip them down the center, mister Wilson, so you
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know the brian gets in there. Or you can cut
them into slices. You can take the seeds and membranes
out if you want. I don't. They make the peppers hotter.
And then my tip here is when you put the
peppers in the jars, regardless of how you uh prep them,
pack them really really tight. Otherwise they're gonna float in
the jar. And that's not gonna hurt them. It won't
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make them unedible. It's just not as pretty as they
would look. And then all you do is take Nell's brine,
which is six cups of clear vinegar, always five percent acid.
Make sure it says that two cups of water, and
she uses about two cups of sugar, and I use
sometimes none, sometimes afford the cups, so that's up to you.
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You can taste it, and you basically pour that boiling
brine over those peppers in jars that you sterilize and
wipe the jars clean. And now the old fashioned way
is simply keeping those in the pantry. But now the
recommendation is you should put them in a boiling water bath.
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I think for twenty minutes or so. But when you
think of the high acid content of the vinegar, I
think you'd be just fine. But professionally now basically we
got to boil water bath everything. But anyway, they keep
for several years, and just to pull one of those
out like a Thanksgiving or February, even with a bowl
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of soup, shifts summer in a jar. And they're beautiful
and so good for you. And I know that's one
of your favorites.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It is. And you know what's funny is when this
when this, when she first gave us this recipe, it
was really just for pickling peppers, right, and somehow we
switched it to pickling hot peppers. So I want folks
to remain you know, even though it says pickled hot peppers,
it works for us if you want to just do
sweet peppers, uh, and not any because what she would
do is a lot of sweet peppers, bells, yellow bananas,
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things like that, and then slip in a habinarrow or
slip in something to heat it up a little bit
if you dislike a little bit of kick, and you
don't even have to do that. And the other thing
I always liked it is to slip in you know
what I'm going to say, green cherry tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, and you know I have candos for you. You
know made that, Brian, And I don't know if I
gave it. I didn't give you any this year, but
I will have to save some green cherries. Yeah, that,
Brian is perfect because when they infusing the brine, oh
my goodness, they're still crunchy and green and even delicious
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on green salads. I know you like to put green
tomatoes on salads, so yeah, lots of ways you can
do that with the sweet peppers or whatever. And you
can add bay leaves or garlic or dial I mean,
there's no wrong way to do that. And we have
to thank your mom new because she's just an excellent
cook and canner and her wisdom. You're not going to
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find that in a book.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Nope, Nope, no doubt about it. And although you have
to really beg her to share some of her recipes
with you, those are special.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I know her carrot cake is only family. I know that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did she give you that recipe?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Uh? I don't remember she did. If she did, yes,
but you know what, you know, I write publicly and
it's one that she gave me just to use for
my family, and I will never share it. So yeah,
she has that's special.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
She has sold her cakes at the church fundraisers and
stuff for like one hundred bucks or whatever. I don't know.
So yeah, everybody, I know, everybody wants her famous carrot cake.
So talking with Rita hikenfell to get her a website
about eating dot com. Our recipe this week is pickled peppers.
It can be pickled hot peppers, sweet peppers, throwing a
little bailey for garlic or diill. I like the dill
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in there, and again some green cherry tomatoes, or you
can take a green tomato and quarter it and put
it in there as well. It works for all of them.
So it's basically the basis for doing all kinds of things.
And if you didn't grow peppers at all, Rita, they
can just go to the produce stand or the local
farm market or whatever and buy an assortment of peppers
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and do their own from.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That oh yeah, right now. The farm stands, farmers markets
are just abundant with those peppers and you'll get you know,
locally homegrown, really good peppers at a great price. So
good advice, Mel.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Wilson simple pickled peppers or pickled hot peppers if you
want to do them that way as well. That's our
recipe of the week. Go to our website at run
will An online dot com to find it. Let's take
a break, we come back. We'll go out into riad.
This Hikenfeld Aikenfeld's garden. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (12:47):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Are
you erbally experienced? We've got Rita Hikenfeld with us this morning.
Sit down, sit down, giving her big head.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I don't think so. Website about eating dot com. Hey,
you know, going on into the garden right now. I
know things are actually starting to wind down. It's kind
of hard to believe that's happening, but it is. You
do fig trees and containers. How do those do for you?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, you know I do, and containers because I take
them in over winter and put them in my unheated
garageet's attached to the house. They did pretty well. I
got a good amount of figs, but they're much smaller
than usual, and they're very very sweet. But usually, gosh,
they're huge. I mean they fit in the ground. When
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the little grandkids come over, they fill the palm of
their hand. But this year they're a lot smaller, as
I said, And I have what's called a white fig
from my friend Sally, and then I have the Chicago
hardy and Turkish. They're all doing really well, but they've
everything struggle with that. There's that blistering heat and no rain.
(14:03):
But you know, I got a harvest, so I'm good.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah. So that's and you know what Bill Knox and
I were talking yesterday, and you know, Bill and we
were saying, you know, if anything with those figs, if
you just never even if you never got a fig
off of them, the foliage and the plant itself is gorgeous,
oh it is.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's it's just bright green leaves. And you know,
you talk about herbs and foods with Biblical history, think
of the fig tree in the garden of Eden. I
mean when Adam and Eve were chased out, so to speak.
They covered themselves with big leaves, and I got to say,
mister Wilson, going off subject. But anyway, the fig leaves
on my tree, that wouldn't work so well. I don't know.
(14:44):
It must have been bigger back then. But yeah, it's
a lovely plant and easy, easy to grow into propagates.
So I'm glad you recommend them.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I think in containers that the leaves may stay a
little bit smaller, but they could be pretty good size.
I've heard I've heard rumors from the neighbors about you
two running around the garden with your fig leaves.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, well we'll go on to another thing.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
There you go. Hey, we harvested our volunteer pumpkin vine
this week, and yeah, I got some nice pump because
the squirrels are just devouring them, so we had to
get them off of there and try to protect them.
They're just we came home from dinner. I was once
dinner with his head stuck in one just chewing away.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So kidding.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, but that pretty good crop. Are you the same way?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No, mine are doing okay, but they're gonna be late
because we planted them much later than usual and then
again the weather, I can get out the water. But
they're looking okay. The deer liked the flowers, you know,
they liked it, munch on those, and the rabbits sometimes.
But I think we're gonna do okay, not a huge harvest,
but again something worthwhile and it makes you appreciate next year.
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But we haven't seen any squirrels yet because we haven't
seen any fruit yet. So I'll let you know what
kind did you just have?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Regular little punk Yeah, their little pie pumpkins, and you know,
they did great. And it's a neighborhood thing because everybody
comes to look and you know, see the male flower,
female flowers, and how many pumpkins you got, and they're
hidden down inside and all that, so you know, and
it's all volunteer. We don't I never plant them and
I never want them. I don't feed them on do
anything to them.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So they must love where you live.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
They must love that particular location. Talking with Rita Hikenfeld
about eating dot com as her website Butterfly blue peavine,
We grew that and got you a couple so you
could get experiment with it, because I know you've used
it in all kinds of things. So what do you
think now that you've grown them for a season and
a container. Is there something we should continue to grow
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in the future.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yes, And you know, the leaves are bright green, sort
of oval, beautiful, beautiful climbing plant, very delicate looking but
actually pretty hardy. And the flowers are the butterfly blue pea,
dark dark blue, and they have so many health qualities
as far as not only being anti inflammatory but just
good overall for your health. But the kicker is when
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you put them in water, they actually turn whatever liquid blue,
and then if you add an acid, they will turn
the liquid purple. So they're very trendy in cocktails right now.
But you could add some the lemonade and grind them
up powder. The flowers use them in many many ways,
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but that's going to be mainstream, I think, sort of
just like Stevia was ages and ages ago. So yeah,
I would definitely say grow those because I think people
will love them just with the little education and that's
all they needn't know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, and you've been talking about them for a couple
three years now, and you know, we just gave it
a shot to see how easy they were to grow
from seed, So yeah, we'll add that to our list,
next to your butterfly blue pea vine and I have
one myself. And yeah, it's been really cool watching the
same flower. Very aggressive, little vine looks tender, but it's
pretty tough. It's hanging in there when we don't water it,
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or if we do water it. And all of that
got about a minute a half. I have to go
doing a lot of right now, radishes, beats, turnips, bock joy,
mixed greens and containers right now, like in a fourteen
sixteen inch bowl. And it's amazing how easy that is
to have, you know, the salad green type harvest. You
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can have a lot of table right on your patio
and harvest for another month and a half or so.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh. Yeah, it's funny because my friend Charlene and Blick,
my Appellation friends, just brought me a bag of beets
and turnip greens, both the root and the greens. That
turnip greens for the tops really delicious and they grow
in the ground. But I have to tell you I
shouldn't even admit this, but I will. I'm going to
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be planning the kale and turnip greens and all of
that in my flower boxes. And containers because they're up,
you know, elevated, a little bit easy to pick, and
then I'll have them hacked throughout the cold season. So yeah,
thanks for all those tips about the ornamental pale and
all that. We forget that, but they're beautiful when nothing
else is growing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh my gosh. I mean, it just gives you get
better and better as the season finishes out. They're coming
on stronger and stronger all the time. So way underused,
Rita Hiken felt. It's always a pleasure having you on
the show, and I'm sure in a couple of weeks
here we'll start talking about how to shut down that
herb garden, what to do with the annual herbs and
the perennial herbs well, how to dry and the center,
(19:24):
et cetera. So we look forward to talking to you
in a couple of weeks, and we appreciate your weekly
recipes that you can find on our website at Ryn
Wilson online dot com, and of course about eating dot
com as well.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well. I always enjoy talking to you, and mister Hikingfeld
would have said hello, but he's still lying in shape,
so consider that later on and we'll talk to you too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He's a great man. I'm sure he's waiting for that
hearty breakfast. As soon as he wakes up, you'll have
it on a tray ready for him to eat.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, well, it's time to say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Rita hiking fel at our website about eating dot com.
Take a quick break, we come back. Coming up next
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. You know,
if you want to light up your yard next spring,
what do you do? Will you plant bulbs in the fall?
And of course when it comes to talking about bulbs,
whether there's spring bulbs or fall bulbs or summer bulbs.
And you got questions about bulbs, who do we go to?
We go to the bulb lady and she has all
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of our answers. Who happens to that be? Well, that
happens to be? And by the way, the website is
flowerbub dot Eu. Peggy and Montgomery put, Morgan, how are
you this morning?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I am great. I'll tell you I love this cool weather.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh it's absolutely outstanding. Are you ever in a bad mood?
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh? I suppose sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I have never talked to you, emailed you texted you
that you were you know you were? You were always
so up? Is that because of the bulbs that you're
planning bulbs all the time?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You know what, I have a pretty great job. I
get to tell people about bulbs and get them excited
about using them. And that's pretty as much as good
as they get. So I'll tell you what flowers make
people happy? And Ron, you and I have always known that,
but science proves it too, no.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Doubt about now. We were talking earlier in our show
about you know, scientists are seeing how kids should be
playing more in the dirt because they benefit from the
microbes and things that are in the soil that they
need to do that, And also about psychologists saying, you know,
you got to just take your shoes off when you're
really stressed and take a walk through the turf, through
the lawn. How relaxing that could be. For some reason,
(23:44):
I picture Peggy and Montgomery as someone who probably does
that on a regular.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Basis, you know I do. And there's a lot of
talk now about grounding, you know, and getting you know
by being barefoot and instead of wearing shoes with rubber.
That's a really good thing. And when you're out gardening,
there's microbes in the soil that are getting inside you
and triggering all the happy hormones. So we know that
(24:10):
getting out and gardening is great for you. It's great
for your kids. And guess what, you can even go
over to grammy Grandpa's house and do some gardening, plant
some bulbs for a surprise next spring.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I love it, all right, So let's get started here.
First of all, are they fall bulbs or spring bulbs?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Isn't that crazy? I think that's one thing that makes
it hard for consumers sometimes, ron So I kind of
always had the word planted fall planted bulbs, spring blooming
bulbs to try to make it a little more clear.
So in the fall, we're planting things like tulips and
daffodils and grape hyacinths, and next spring we'll be planting
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things like lilies and dahlias.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and those are things that that will flower forest
mostly in the summer, but planting these in the fall.
The reason being.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Is what.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know, they come from areas where they do have
a cold period like a turkey and you know in
the in the far East, and so they need to
have that cold period in order to bloom. So we
like to get them in the ground in the fall
before your soil is frozen, so they can put down
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some roots and get established and then they go through
the cold period that is normal to them from where
they hail, and then they will bloom for us in
the spring.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So planting in the fall gives them that cold period
that they need. And then of course in flower I
set that ball the flower head, and of course they
flower for in the spring. What if folks do that
are down in Florida that want a few balls, I
guess they've got to refrigerate those.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Right, Yeah, there is there is a way you can
refrigerate them to kind of mimic a cold cycle. And
many places where you buy bulbs and I would you know,
you can look online or other places they have bulbs
that have already been professionally pre chilled.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yes, so when you're looking and you see those hyacinths
in there, and it says pre chilled. That's what they're
talking about. So they're ready to go. So if you
potted them up in a pot or you planted them
in the ground, they're ready to start to grow and
flower for you right away. And that's what the pre
chilled means when you see that. Talking with Peggy and Montgomery,
she's the horticulturros for flower bulb dot Eu, a great website,
(26:28):
be sure and check it out, talking about planting those
spring flowering bulbs, and they fall planting and that's why
we plan the fall. Now. If we go out to
our local independent garden centers right now and we look around,
they've started to bring just starting to bring in all
of their spring flowering bulbs. So now's a great time
as far as selection. But what do you recommend planting?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know, it kind of depends on your zone. Ideally
you want to get them in the ground, you know,
for six weeks before your soil is going to so
you know, we're looking at depending on where you are
late September October here in the Mid Atlantic, we can
even go into November.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, you know, I've actually gotten into you know, we're
the same way. We don't get a real good, actual
soil freeze until you get to the end of the year.
And you know, if you're lucky, I mean even if
you get at that soon. So you know, we were
fortunate enough to be able to actually plant. That's why
a lot of times, you know, and I always whisper,
but you know, around the mid November a lot of
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garden centers trying to get rid of whatever is left over.
Great time to scarf those up. Still plenty of time
to plant.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I got to tell you my husband, as you know,
is a horticulturist, and he breaks the rule every year
and he plants right through November and sometimes into December.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Good man, he's I always knew he was a rebel
because he hangs out with you. Yeah, must be talk
with Peggy and Montgomery again. The websites are great when
flowerbub dot eu. So we're going to talk after the break.
We're going to talk about planting bulbs in your yard.
But I noticed that kind of a spring flowering bulb,
(28:11):
actually a late winter early spring flowering bulb. That kind
of I think it gets overlooked and we don't notice
this one as much. And it's actually a wonderful welcome
to the spring season. Is the twenty twenty five fall
bulb of the year, and that snow.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Drops, Oh my favorite ron. I don't know how many
thousands we must have in our yard, but they're a
my favorite spring bloom.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And it really is early. I mean, you will see
them coming up through the snow as we're getting through
the late winter and in the early spring. And one
of the good things about them too, which happens with
a lot of these bulbs, is the fact they're so
good for the early pollinators.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Great for the early pollinators, and snowdrops are kind of
magical because they even produce some of their own sheet
and that's how they can come up to the snow.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes, all of a sudden you look, and also in
the snow kind of disappears around where that foliage is
coming up, and they're able to do that kind of
like skunk cabbage.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Exactly like skunk cabbage. It's the same process.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
There you go talk with Peggy and Montgomery. Let's take
a quick break. We come back. We'll talk more about
planting early spring flowering bulbs, including playing them in the lawn.
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Speaker 1 (31:09):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special guests.
We always have so much fun when this young lady
is on with us. We're talking bulbs with Peggy and
Montgomery website flowerbub dot e u. Peggy and Montgomery. We're
talking about the snowdrops being the twenty twenty five fall
bulb of the year fallball meaning fall planting of spring
(31:31):
flowering bulbs. You know, some folks are gonna be sitt
out there going you know what, I'm tired of planting
bulbs because all I get are the deer and the
rabbits eating those. What about the snowdrops.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, they don't bother those. And Ron, this is actually
really great. If you go to flower bulb dot Eu
you can search it and they'll be articles to tell
you more about this. And we don't sell anything there.
This is just information inspiration. But there are a lot
of minor bulbs, flowering bulbs that deer do not eat,
(32:03):
and you know, daffodils being one of them. They do
like tulips, however, but I know people that have had
great luck planting their tulips here and there with the
daffodils back.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
In the daffodils, so the deer don't recognize.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Them, yeah, exactly, and they don't like the smell of
those daffodils, so they leave the tulips alone. But there
are plenty of bulbs that deer won't bother.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I think the other thing too, remember is we
keep talking about pollinators and being pollinator polite in you
in all of your gardening, and a lot of these
spring flowering bulbs are excellent for all the pollinators out there.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You know, they really are. And when the bumble bees
and solitary bees emerge very early, they don't have energy
to fly very far. And so when you plant a
big stand of early flowering bulbs, they have a place
to go and eat. And it's a really important time
because very little else is flowering.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yep. Now, listen, when you're out and you're gonna buy
if you're looking to go to the snow drops. So
you're gonna go to your garden center this weekend or
next two weekend and you say, Okay, I'm gonna get
some snowdrops and plant them don't just get five or
six or eight, right, get twenty five or fifty or
one hundred. And the time you spend it won't take
you very long to get those planeted. And they do naturalize,
so they'll continue to spread for you. But once you
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get those planet and when you see the results next spring,
you will be thanking Peggy and Montgomery for buying a
whole bunch of them planting those.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah, think about it as an investment, because you put
them in this fall, and that is something you know.
They're gonna multiply. They multiply fairly quickly, and so you're
gonna have a bigger and better show every single year.
You can't get better bang for your buck.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I got to tell you a quick story here. For
all my life here and all my life, all my
married life, I've been most the main gardener. My wife
really doesn't get involved too much with gardening. Over the
last couple years, all of a sudden, she's just started
getting involved with container gardening and house plants and things
like that. A couple days ago, we got a Ball
catalog in the mail and she was going through the
(34:08):
Ball catalog and showed it up. She said, she showed
me this picture of crocus and she said, let's plant
these in the grass. And I said, oh yeah. I
kind of laughed, and I said, you know what, why
don't you listen to the show on Saturday, because we're
going to talk about Stenson plantting and planting those in
the grass. And she said, what is Stinton pluttin I
(34:28):
spelled it for I said, you look it up. And
then she came back said how do you know all this?
I said, because I talked to Peggy and Montgomery.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It's so great. Yeah, we have a Stinton garden and
what that really is, it's a lot of very early
flowering bulbs that we grow right in our grass. We
let them flower. It extends our gardening season by a
couple of months, and then we let the foliage naturally
siness and then we don't mow it until that's happened,
(35:00):
so you know, and I have a border of cut
grass around the stins of gardens, so it looks intentional
and neat for my neighbors. But some people still don't
like to mow that late. And for those folks, a
crocus lawn is where it's at. You go ahead to
punt as many crocus as you possibly can in the lawn.
They're going to come up, they're going to bloom, they
(35:22):
are going to entice you to get outside and believe
spring's coming. They're going to feed the pollinators, and there's
little foliage that dies back very quickly, so you can
just keep going with your normal mowing pattern.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, and so think about that. I mean, really, when
these come up, these crocus come up, is very early
in the springtime. The lawns are starting to green a
little bit, starting to come up. But here are these crocus.
They're flowering in that lawn. You get to enjoy those.
And right when the lawn's probably starting to reach a
point where it's time to start thinking about mowing, guess
who's all finished and done, and that would be the crocus. Now,
(35:55):
the only limitation here would be which just like with
any flowering lawn, is that you've got to be more
cautious about weed control, using weed killers and things like that.
In the law that would affect those bulbs. But other
than that, it's it doesn't really mess up your routine
of spring maintenance of the of the turf.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And if turf is very important
to you and you have built in irrigation and use
chemicals like that. Maybe Bablon isn't for you, but you
can still plant those crocus under your deciduous shrubs and
trees because they'll get light.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
In the spring exactly. And again, I think the thing
of it, you know, you get if you can get
some of the get some of the catalogs just so
you get them just for inspiration, and then get out
your locally owned independent garden centers and see all the
great things that they're going to have on their shelves
over the next month, month and a half maybe two
for you to plant that will flower in the springtime,
and you'll be amazed. And I think you know when
(36:52):
I look at that when it comes to planting spring
flowering bulbs, and you know there are and again your
your website flowerbulb dot eu. The information there is phenomenal
is to do a little bit of homework. Go to
that website or whatever it may be, look at the
catalogs and start looking at the different stages of when
things flower so that you can plant it out. You could.
(37:12):
I mean, Peggy and Montgomery have things flowering from late
February early March right on through April and into May.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Oh absolutely, you know, on a on a light you know,
winter year here, we'll start getting flowers winter aconites in January.
It's going to go right through every month of spring,
and then because of the aliums, we're going to go
right through June.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's the one that my
wife has gotten into now, the aliums. I planted her
a mix of aliums two years ago, and now she's
into all the different she was. Those are the pages
she ripped out of that bulb catalog. What do you
do you sell these? Do you sell those? We want?
She loves the aliums.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
They are an extraordinary plant, great pollinator plant. They've got
a lot of give a lot of structure to any border.
You can plant them in amongst perennials. Because they're long,
tall stems are not going to crowd them or shade
them out. And there is no reason not to plant
allium they can fit. There is one for every yard.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Do you consider bulbs a high or low or medium
maintenance planting?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I consider it very low maintenance because you know, for instance,
our bulb lawn Dan and I planted that one morning.
You know, we had augurs on our drills, and we
planted you know, thousands of bulbs, you know, half a day,
and every year that comes back without me planting, without
a lot of you know, kinds of maintenance. The only
(38:48):
maintenance I really have is that in a few places,
and not all I need to cut the foliage back
most places, you know, understrubs, in the lawn, everything like that.
I certainly don't buy that. But there's a few areas,
like up near the entrance of the house where I
cut back the forwards before the next perennials come up
and do their thing. So, you know, bulbs, if you
(39:11):
use perennial bulbs, you plan them once and forget them.
And even if I want to plant tulips, you know
for a show that I know aren't perennial, it's fine.
You know. They cost about the same as annuals, so
I grow them, compost them, and get my other annuals in.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I love it. Talk with Peggy and Montgomery and again
great informational website at flower bulb dot eu talking about
planting those fall planted spring flowering bulbs. And I think
that's a great way to say that because it pretty
much explains what we're talking about. You know, one I
think the flies under the Radar, that's a tremendous show
and the critters stay away from as well. Is fritill area.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Oh aren't they special. I think that's kind of I
call it a gateway bulb rod because they're so unique
with that checkered pattern. That new garden see those and
can't imagine that they can grow them, and when they do,
they're so excited.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh yeah, And I think that when you buy them,
remember they're gonna smell, and that bulb smell and that's
what repels all the critters. They smell that and they
don't go after it either. But that's that's another one
one of those that again I think we used to
sell tons of them, and they kind of I don't know,
I think they kind of disappeared in the garden. But
that's one that you should definitely take a look at.
(40:26):
Good height to them, come back every year. Nice plant,
but it's called fritillaria, so keep that in mind as well.
Talking about Peggy and moctgarmery again, that website flowerbulb dot eu.
Do your homework. Peggy mcgarmery's got all the info of
it for you right there to do your planning before
you do your planting. And I kind of chuckled when
I to myself here when you were talking about got
(40:48):
your palt and your planter, the power planter, those augurs
out and started planting. And you've been doing this for
quite some time as well. Remember the old days when
you used to use those hand bulb planters or the
one that you had to like a shovel and you
put your foot on it and shoved it down in
the ground and pop that hole out.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Oh my gosh, that is too much work. I'd rather
work smarter than harder.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, really, I look at and we don't you know,
we don't sell those like we used to. As a
matter of fact, I still remember the one, and I
think we still sell them, the hand one that you
put in the ground and then you can squeeze it
and let the dirt out. The Uh, too much work
for me. Those yeh, those powers are too easy.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
They're really easy. They make very light work of panting bulbs.
And you know, that's a fun way to do it,
even to like get the kids involved. If you can
drill the holes and the kids can pop the bulbs.
In and put the soil back in. It's fun, fast work.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, we're at the beginning of the planting season for
fall planting of spring flowering bulbs, so do a little homework.
Get out to your local independent garden center. See what they've
gotten stock flowerbulb dot Eu. We'll get you started at
Peggy Montgomery, I'm sure we'll talk to you one more
time at least before the end of the fall planting
of for spring flowering bulbs. Thank you so much, always
(42:07):
a pleasure. All right, take care Peggy and Montgomery again
the website flower bulb dot Eu. All right, we're gonna
take another break. When we come back, phone lines will
be open for you. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardning. Uh, the end of
the September already fall season is here. Has been absolutely
(42:28):
wonderful so far. It looks like you might warm up
a little bit next week, but still wonderful. A little dry,
your plants are thirsty.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
G it out.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Make sure you're watering. But otherwise it's fall. Time to
get out and let's do some planting here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
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Are you erbally experienced with our ccpcmhor Award winning syndicated journalist.
She is an Appalachian herbal scholar, cooking teacher, media personality,
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Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the Only, Rita Nader Hike
and Feled Good morning, Well, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You could be my pr agent. I have been, Yes,
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Take my Mike cut of the pie. By the way,
a great website. It's about eating dot com. I forgot
to mention that one. How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We are really really good. I heard you and Joe
talk about burn months and I only caught the end
of it. You mean when you're barefoot or not?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
His mom always said the months that lived at end
in er. You don't go outside without your shoes on.
You can't go bare can't go barefoot in the grass
or you'll get it or you'll catch a cold.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, that's so old fashioned. Sounds like some
things not my mom would say, but Ranks mom certainly too. Yeah,
that's what they wore, shoes everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, that's what she believes, so, you know, And maybe
it's the old German mom, you know, thinking that to go.
I don't know, so there you go. So anyway, that's
what I say because I had to slip outside the
other morning. It was cool, and I had got my
shoes on. I stuffed in that grass and I thought
it felt outstanding, how loved.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh yeah, it's funny because most of the kids down
the road where I live, you know, at the end
of the old country road, if you come in the
back way, they show up at my back door all
the time barefoot. And I was barefoot yesterday. Yeah, I
have trouble. No, no, I don't do that anymore. I've
(02:46):
come into the fold, you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Know, And you're wearing the socks. One wearing the socks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, you didn't hear me say that I wear clothes.
I were on perfectly, Okay, legit, how's that all right?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I did read an article a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if I sent that to you or not,
but talking about how kids now, they're you know, almost
writing a prescription telling me to get out and play
in the mud.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, I had heard that, and that's so true. Do
you think of immunity in the first what five years
that they're exposed to all the bacteria outside and all
that stuff. They do better And walking girfoot's so healthy
for you too, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I think so. And I'm sure there's a compromise there
when you, you know, wear shoes and correct your arch.
I don't know, I don't know all that stuff, but yeah,
I think that. And again talking about the the playing
in the mud and eating a little bit of dirt
or whatever. Standing in the grass barefoot is also part
of like forest bathing that they're saying. You know, if
(03:47):
you go out there, and how many people do that,
just take your shoes off and go stand in the
grass and go walk through your yard. Now Joe said
he wouldn't do that because he has four dogs.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah I heard that. Yeah, there would minds there, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
A few land minds. But you know it's I agree
with him. I think it's just it's outstanding. All right.
Talking with Rita hiking Feld's are you urbally experienced? Her
website about eating dot com? Uh, kind of a special
recipe this week. It's one of those it's almost like
your cherry bounce recipe. It's one of those that folks
like to get. I have never had anybody when you
(04:23):
put this one out there that has ever said it
didn't work for me. I always get responses two months
from now saying, man, that was the easiest way to
pickle peppers and the flavor was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, yeah, and you know that's from are not our mom?
Your mom? Nel Wilson.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh did you say our mom?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh? We see, Well no, she would be my sip.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
She wouldn't be my mom. But anyway, she pickled peppers
much like the way my mom and grandparents did. Very simple,
and the difference with now and we'll go over the recipe.
My mom just basically used clear vinegar and sometimes water
and now adds a little bit of sugar to take
away the bite. W depending on the peppers you used.
(05:11):
But it's one that we share every year because it's
it's that good. It's iconic, and I know you love them.
It's so easy. All you do is whatever hot peppers
you gather, you can mix them up and you can
put some sweet ones in there or whatever, and y
a lot of times I'll leave my hole and then
just slip them down the center, mister Wilson, so you
(05:32):
know the brian gets in there. Or you can cut
them into slices. You can take the seeds and membranes
out if you want. I don't. They make the peppers hotter.
And then my tip here is when you put the
peppers in the jars, regardless of how you uh prep them,
pack them really really tight. Otherwise they're gonna float in
the jar. And that's not gonna hurt them. It won't
(05:54):
make them unedible. It's just not as pretty as they
would look. And then all you do is take Nell's brine,
which is six cups of clear vinegar, always five percent acid.
Make sure it says that two cups of water, and
she uses about two cups of sugar, and I use
sometimes none, sometimes afford the cups, so that's up to you.
(06:16):
You can taste it, and you basically pour that boiling
brine over those peppers in jars that you sterilize and
wipe the jars clean. And now the old fashioned way
is simply keeping those in the pantry. But now the
recommendation is you should put them in a boiling water bath.
(06:37):
I think for twenty minutes or so. But when you
think of the high acid content of the vinegar, I
think you'd be just fine. But professionally now basically we
got to boil water bath everything. But anyway, they keep
for several years, and just to pull one of those
out like a Thanksgiving or February, even with a bowl
(06:58):
of soup, shifts summer in a jar. And they're beautiful
and so good for you. And I know that's one
of your favorites.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It is. And you know what's funny is when this
when this, when she first gave us this recipe, it
was really just for pickling peppers, right, and somehow we
switched it to pickling hot peppers. So I want folks
to remain you know, even though it says pickled hot peppers,
it works for us if you want to just do
sweet peppers, uh, and not any because what she would
do is a lot of sweet peppers, bells, yellow bananas,
(07:27):
things like that, and then slip in a habinarrow or
slip in something to heat it up a little bit
if you dislike a little bit of kick, and you
don't even have to do that. And the other thing
I always liked it is to slip in you know
what I'm going to say, green cherry tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, and you know I have candos for you. You
know made that, Brian, And I don't know if I
gave it. I didn't give you any this year, but
I will have to save some green cherries. Yeah, that,
Brian is perfect because when they infusing the brine, oh
my goodness, they're still crunchy and green and even delicious
(08:05):
on green salads. I know you like to put green
tomatoes on salads, so yeah, lots of ways you can
do that with the sweet peppers or whatever. And you
can add bay leaves or garlic or dial I mean,
there's no wrong way to do that. And we have
to thank your mom new because she's just an excellent
cook and canner and her wisdom. You're not going to
(08:27):
find that in a book.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Nope, Nope, no doubt about it. And although you have
to really beg her to share some of her recipes
with you, those are special.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I know her carrot cake is only family. I know that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did she give you that recipe?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Uh? I don't remember she did. If she did, yes,
but you know what, you know, I write publicly and
it's one that she gave me just to use for
my family, and I will never share it. So yeah,
she has that's special.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
She has sold her cakes at the church fundraisers and
stuff for like one hundred bucks or whatever. I don't know.
So yeah, everybody, I know, everybody wants her famous carrot cake.
So talking with Rita hikenfell to get her a website
about eating dot com. Our recipe this week is pickled peppers.
It can be pickled hot peppers, sweet peppers, throwing a
little bailey for garlic or diill. I like the dill
(09:17):
in there, and again some green cherry tomatoes, or you
can take a green tomato and quarter it and put
it in there as well. It works for all of them.
So it's basically the basis for doing all kinds of things.
And if you didn't grow peppers at all, Rita, they
can just go to the produce stand or the local
farm market or whatever and buy an assortment of peppers
(09:38):
and do their own from.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That oh yeah, right now. The farm stands, farmers markets
are just abundant with those peppers and you'll get you know,
locally homegrown, really good peppers at a great price. So
good advice, Mel.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Wilson simple pickled peppers or pickled hot peppers if you
want to do them that way as well. That's our
recipe of the week. Go to our website at run
will An online dot com to find it. Let's take
a break, we come back. We'll go out into riad.
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Speaker 1 (12:47):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Are
you erbally experienced? We've got Rita Hikenfeld with us this morning.
Sit down, sit down, giving her big head.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I don't think so. Website about eating dot com. Hey,
you know, going on into the garden right now. I
know things are actually starting to wind down. It's kind
of hard to believe that's happening, but it is. You
do fig trees and containers. How do those do for you?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, you know I do, and containers because I take
them in over winter and put them in my unheated
garageet's attached to the house. They did pretty well. I
got a good amount of figs, but they're much smaller
than usual, and they're very very sweet. But usually, gosh,
they're huge. I mean they fit in the ground. When
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the little grandkids come over, they fill the palm of
their hand. But this year they're a lot smaller, as
I said, And I have what's called a white fig
from my friend Sally, and then I have the Chicago
hardy and Turkish. They're all doing really well, but they've
everything struggle with that. There's that blistering heat and no rain.
(14:03):
But you know, I got a harvest, so I'm good.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah. So that's and you know what Bill Knox and
I were talking yesterday, and you know, Bill and we
were saying, you know, if anything with those figs, if
you just never even if you never got a fig
off of them, the foliage and the plant itself is gorgeous,
oh it is.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's it's just bright green leaves. And you know,
you talk about herbs and foods with Biblical history, think
of the fig tree in the garden of Eden. I
mean when Adam and Eve were chased out, so to speak.
They covered themselves with big leaves, and I got to say,
mister Wilson, going off subject. But anyway, the fig leaves
on my tree, that wouldn't work so well. I don't know.
(14:44):
It must have been bigger back then. But yeah, it's
a lovely plant and easy, easy to grow into propagates.
So I'm glad you recommend them.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I think in containers that the leaves may stay a
little bit smaller, but they could be pretty good size.
I've heard I've heard rumors from the neighbors about you
two running around the garden with your fig leaves.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, well we'll go on to another thing.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
There you go. Hey, we harvested our volunteer pumpkin vine
this week, and yeah, I got some nice pump because
the squirrels are just devouring them, so we had to
get them off of there and try to protect them.
They're just we came home from dinner. I was once
dinner with his head stuck in one just chewing away.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So kidding.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, but that pretty good crop. Are you the same way?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No, mine are doing okay, but they're gonna be late
because we planted them much later than usual and then
again the weather, I can get out the water. But
they're looking okay. The deer liked the flowers, you know,
they liked it, munch on those, and the rabbits sometimes.
But I think we're gonna do okay, not a huge harvest,
but again something worthwhile and it makes you appreciate next year.
(15:53):
But we haven't seen any squirrels yet because we haven't
seen any fruit yet. So I'll let you know what
kind did you just have?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Regular little punk Yeah, their little pie pumpkins, and you know,
they did great. And it's a neighborhood thing because everybody
comes to look and you know, see the male flower,
female flowers, and how many pumpkins you got, and they're
hidden down inside and all that, so you know, and
it's all volunteer. We don't I never plant them and
I never want them. I don't feed them on do
anything to them.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So they must love where you live.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
They must love that particular location. Talking with Rita Hikenfeld
about eating dot com as her website Butterfly blue peavine,
We grew that and got you a couple so you
could get experiment with it, because I know you've used
it in all kinds of things. So what do you
think now that you've grown them for a season and
a container. Is there something we should continue to grow
(16:39):
in the future.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yes, And you know, the leaves are bright green, sort
of oval, beautiful, beautiful climbing plant, very delicate looking but
actually pretty hardy. And the flowers are the butterfly blue pea,
dark dark blue, and they have so many health qualities
as far as not only being anti inflammatory but just
good overall for your health. But the kicker is when
(17:03):
you put them in water, they actually turn whatever liquid blue,
and then if you add an acid, they will turn
the liquid purple. So they're very trendy in cocktails right now.
But you could add some the lemonade and grind them
up powder. The flowers use them in many many ways,
(17:23):
but that's going to be mainstream, I think, sort of
just like Stevia was ages and ages ago. So yeah,
I would definitely say grow those because I think people
will love them just with the little education and that's
all they needn't know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, and you've been talking about them for a couple
three years now, and you know, we just gave it
a shot to see how easy they were to grow
from seed, So yeah, we'll add that to our list,
next to your butterfly blue pea vine and I have
one myself. And yeah, it's been really cool watching the
same flower. Very aggressive, little vine looks tender, but it's
pretty tough. It's hanging in there when we don't water it,
(17:57):
or if we do water it. And all of that
got about a minute a half. I have to go
doing a lot of right now, radishes, beats, turnips, bock joy,
mixed greens and containers right now, like in a fourteen
sixteen inch bowl. And it's amazing how easy that is
to have, you know, the salad green type harvest. You
(18:19):
can have a lot of table right on your patio
and harvest for another month and a half or so.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh. Yeah, it's funny because my friend Charlene and Blick,
my Appellation friends, just brought me a bag of beets
and turnip greens, both the root and the greens. That
turnip greens for the tops really delicious and they grow
in the ground. But I have to tell you I
shouldn't even admit this, but I will. I'm going to
(18:45):
be planning the kale and turnip greens and all of
that in my flower boxes. And containers because they're up,
you know, elevated, a little bit easy to pick, and
then I'll have them hacked throughout the cold season. So yeah,
thanks for all those tips about the ornamental pale and
all that. We forget that, but they're beautiful when nothing
else is growing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh my gosh. I mean, it just gives you get
better and better as the season finishes out. They're coming
on stronger and stronger all the time. So way underused,
Rita Hiken felt. It's always a pleasure having you on
the show, and I'm sure in a couple of weeks
here we'll start talking about how to shut down that
herb garden, what to do with the annual herbs and
the perennial herbs well, how to dry and the center,
(19:24):
et cetera. So we look forward to talking to you
in a couple of weeks, and we appreciate your weekly
recipes that you can find on our website at Ryn
Wilson online dot com, and of course about eating dot
com as well.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well. I always enjoy talking to you, and mister Hikingfeld
would have said hello, but he's still lying in shape,
so consider that later on and we'll talk to you too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He's a great man. I'm sure he's waiting for that
hearty breakfast. As soon as he wakes up, you'll have
it on a tray ready for him to eat.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, well, it's time to say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Rita hiking fel at our website about eating dot com.
Take a quick break, we come back. Coming up next
Peggy and Montgomery. When Peggy's on our show, We're talking
bulbs and we're gonna talk it. Stenson plotting hooting Morgan
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. You know,
if you want to light up your yard next spring,
what do you do? Will you plant bulbs in the fall?
And of course when it comes to talking about bulbs,
whether there's spring bulbs or fall bulbs or summer bulbs.
And you got questions about bulbs, who do we go to?
We go to the bulb lady and she has all
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of our answers. Who happens to that be? Well, that
happens to be? And by the way, the website is
flowerbub dot Eu. Peggy and Montgomery put, Morgan, how are
you this morning?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I am great. I'll tell you I love this cool weather.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh it's absolutely outstanding. Are you ever in a bad mood?
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh? I suppose sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I have never talked to you, emailed you texted you
that you were you know you were? You were always
so up? Is that because of the bulbs that you're
planning bulbs all the time?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You know what, I have a pretty great job. I
get to tell people about bulbs and get them excited
about using them. And that's pretty as much as good
as they get. So I'll tell you what flowers make
people happy? And Ron, you and I have always known that,
but science proves it too, no.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Doubt about now. We were talking earlier in our show
about you know, scientists are seeing how kids should be
playing more in the dirt because they benefit from the
microbes and things that are in the soil that they
need to do that, And also about psychologists saying, you know,
you got to just take your shoes off when you're
really stressed and take a walk through the turf, through
the lawn. How relaxing that could be. For some reason,
(23:44):
I picture Peggy and Montgomery as someone who probably does
that on a regular.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Basis, you know I do. And there's a lot of
talk now about grounding, you know, and getting you know
by being barefoot and instead of wearing shoes with rubber.
That's a really good thing. And when you're out gardening,
there's microbes in the soil that are getting inside you
and triggering all the happy hormones. So we know that
(24:10):
getting out and gardening is great for you. It's great
for your kids. And guess what, you can even go
over to grammy Grandpa's house and do some gardening, plant
some bulbs for a surprise next spring.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I love it, all right, So let's get started here.
First of all, are they fall bulbs or spring bulbs?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Isn't that crazy? I think that's one thing that makes
it hard for consumers sometimes, ron So I kind of
always had the word planted fall planted bulbs, spring blooming
bulbs to try to make it a little more clear.
So in the fall, we're planting things like tulips and
daffodils and grape hyacinths, and next spring we'll be planting
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things like lilies and dahlias.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and those are things that that will flower forest
mostly in the summer, but planting these in the fall.
The reason being.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Is what.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know, they come from areas where they do have
a cold period like a turkey and you know in
the in the far East, and so they need to
have that cold period in order to bloom. So we
like to get them in the ground in the fall
before your soil is frozen, so they can put down
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some roots and get established and then they go through
the cold period that is normal to them from where
they hail, and then they will bloom for us in
the spring.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So planting in the fall gives them that cold period
that they need. And then of course in flower I
set that ball the flower head, and of course they
flower for in the spring. What if folks do that
are down in Florida that want a few balls, I
guess they've got to refrigerate those.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Right, Yeah, there is there is a way you can
refrigerate them to kind of mimic a cold cycle. And
many places where you buy bulbs and I would you know,
you can look online or other places they have bulbs
that have already been professionally pre chilled.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yes, so when you're looking and you see those hyacinths
in there, and it says pre chilled. That's what they're
talking about. So they're ready to go. So if you
potted them up in a pot or you planted them
in the ground, they're ready to start to grow and
flower for you right away. And that's what the pre
chilled means when you see that. Talking with Peggy and Montgomery,
she's the horticulturros for flower bulb dot Eu, a great website,
(26:28):
be sure and check it out, talking about planting those
spring flowering bulbs, and they fall planting and that's why
we plan the fall. Now. If we go out to
our local independent garden centers right now and we look around,
they've started to bring just starting to bring in all
of their spring flowering bulbs. So now's a great time
as far as selection. But what do you recommend planting?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know, it kind of depends on your zone. Ideally
you want to get them in the ground, you know,
for six weeks before your soil is going to so
you know, we're looking at depending on where you are
late September October here in the Mid Atlantic, we can
even go into November.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, you know, I've actually gotten into you know, we're
the same way. We don't get a real good, actual
soil freeze until you get to the end of the year.
And you know, if you're lucky, I mean even if
you get at that soon. So you know, we were
fortunate enough to be able to actually plant. That's why
a lot of times, you know, and I always whisper,
but you know, around the mid November a lot of
(27:31):
garden centers trying to get rid of whatever is left over.
Great time to scarf those up. Still plenty of time
to plant.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I got to tell you my husband, as you know,
is a horticulturist, and he breaks the rule every year
and he plants right through November and sometimes into December.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Good man, he's I always knew he was a rebel
because he hangs out with you. Yeah, must be talk
with Peggy and Montgomery again. The websites are great when
flowerbub dot eu. So we're going to talk after the break.
We're going to talk about planting bulbs in your yard.
But I noticed that kind of a spring flowering bulb,
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actually a late winter early spring flowering bulb. That kind
of I think it gets overlooked and we don't notice
this one as much. And it's actually a wonderful welcome
to the spring season. Is the twenty twenty five fall
bulb of the year, and that snow.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Drops, Oh my favorite ron. I don't know how many
thousands we must have in our yard, but they're a
my favorite spring bloom.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And it really is early. I mean, you will see
them coming up through the snow as we're getting through
the late winter and in the early spring. And one
of the good things about them too, which happens with
a lot of these bulbs, is the fact they're so
good for the early pollinators.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Great for the early pollinators, and snowdrops are kind of
magical because they even produce some of their own sheet
and that's how they can come up to the snow.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes, all of a sudden you look, and also in
the snow kind of disappears around where that foliage is
coming up, and they're able to do that kind of
like skunk cabbage.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Exactly like skunk cabbage. It's the same process.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
There you go talk with Peggy and Montgomery. Let's take
a quick break. We come back. We'll talk more about
planting early spring flowering bulbs, including playing them in the lawn.
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Speaker 1 (31:09):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special guests.
We always have so much fun when this young lady
is on with us. We're talking bulbs with Peggy and
Montgomery website flowerbub dot e u. Peggy and Montgomery. We're
talking about the snowdrops being the twenty twenty five fall
bulb of the year fallball meaning fall planting of spring
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flowering bulbs. You know, some folks are gonna be sitt
out there going you know what, I'm tired of planting
bulbs because all I get are the deer and the
rabbits eating those. What about the snowdrops.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, they don't bother those. And Ron, this is actually
really great. If you go to flower bulb dot Eu
you can search it and they'll be articles to tell
you more about this. And we don't sell anything there.
This is just information inspiration. But there are a lot
of minor bulbs, flowering bulbs that deer do not eat,
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and you know, daffodils being one of them. They do
like tulips, however, but I know people that have had
great luck planting their tulips here and there with the
daffodils back.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
In the daffodils, so the deer don't recognize.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Them, yeah, exactly, and they don't like the smell of
those daffodils, so they leave the tulips alone. But there
are plenty of bulbs that deer won't bother.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I think the other thing too, remember is we
keep talking about pollinators and being pollinator polite in you
in all of your gardening, and a lot of these
spring flowering bulbs are excellent for all the pollinators out there.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You know, they really are. And when the bumble bees
and solitary bees emerge very early, they don't have energy
to fly very far. And so when you plant a
big stand of early flowering bulbs, they have a place
to go and eat. And it's a really important time
because very little else is flowering.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yep. Now, listen, when you're out and you're gonna buy
if you're looking to go to the snow drops. So
you're gonna go to your garden center this weekend or
next two weekend and you say, Okay, I'm gonna get
some snowdrops and plant them don't just get five or
six or eight, right, get twenty five or fifty or
one hundred. And the time you spend it won't take
you very long to get those planeted. And they do naturalize,
so they'll continue to spread for you. But once you
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get those planet and when you see the results next spring,
you will be thanking Peggy and Montgomery for buying a
whole bunch of them planting those.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah, think about it as an investment, because you put
them in this fall, and that is something you know.
They're gonna multiply. They multiply fairly quickly, and so you're
gonna have a bigger and better show every single year.
You can't get better bang for your buck.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I got to tell you a quick story here. For
all my life here and all my life, all my
married life, I've been most the main gardener. My wife
really doesn't get involved too much with gardening. Over the
last couple years, all of a sudden, she's just started
getting involved with container gardening and house plants and things
like that. A couple days ago, we got a Ball
catalog in the mail and she was going through the
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Ball catalog and showed it up. She said, she showed
me this picture of crocus and she said, let's plant
these in the grass. And I said, oh yeah. I
kind of laughed, and I said, you know what, why
don't you listen to the show on Saturday, because we're
going to talk about Stenson plantting and planting those in
the grass. And she said, what is Stinton pluttin I
(34:28):
spelled it for I said, you look it up. And
then she came back said how do you know all this?
I said, because I talked to Peggy and Montgomery.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It's so great. Yeah, we have a Stinton garden and
what that really is, it's a lot of very early
flowering bulbs that we grow right in our grass. We
let them flower. It extends our gardening season by a
couple of months, and then we let the foliage naturally
siness and then we don't mow it until that's happened,
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so you know, and I have a border of cut
grass around the stins of gardens, so it looks intentional
and neat for my neighbors. But some people still don't
like to mow that late. And for those folks, a
crocus lawn is where it's at. You go ahead to
punt as many crocus as you possibly can in the lawn.
They're going to come up, they're going to bloom, they
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are going to entice you to get outside and believe
spring's coming. They're going to feed the pollinators, and there's
little foliage that dies back very quickly, so you can
just keep going with your normal mowing pattern.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, and so think about that. I mean, really, when
these come up, these crocus come up, is very early
in the springtime. The lawns are starting to green a
little bit, starting to come up. But here are these crocus.
They're flowering in that lawn. You get to enjoy those.
And right when the lawn's probably starting to reach a
point where it's time to start thinking about mowing, guess
who's all finished and done, and that would be the crocus. Now,
(35:55):
the only limitation here would be which just like with
any flowering lawn, is that you've got to be more
cautious about weed control, using weed killers and things like that.
In the law that would affect those bulbs. But other
than that, it's it doesn't really mess up your routine
of spring maintenance of the of the turf.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And if turf is very important
to you and you have built in irrigation and use
chemicals like that. Maybe Bablon isn't for you, but you
can still plant those crocus under your deciduous shrubs and
trees because they'll get light.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
In the spring exactly. And again, I think the thing
of it, you know, you get if you can get
some of the get some of the catalogs just so
you get them just for inspiration, and then get out
your locally owned independent garden centers and see all the
great things that they're going to have on their shelves
over the next month, month and a half maybe two
for you to plant that will flower in the springtime,
and you'll be amazed. And I think you know when
(36:52):
I look at that when it comes to planting spring
flowering bulbs, and you know there are and again your
your website flowerbulb dot eu. The information there is phenomenal
is to do a little bit of homework. Go to
that website or whatever it may be, look at the
catalogs and start looking at the different stages of when
things flower so that you can plant it out. You could.
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I mean, Peggy and Montgomery have things flowering from late
February early March right on through April and into May.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Oh absolutely, you know, on a on a light you know,
winter year here, we'll start getting flowers winter aconites in January.
It's going to go right through every month of spring,
and then because of the aliums, we're going to go
right through June.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's the one that my
wife has gotten into now, the aliums. I planted her
a mix of aliums two years ago, and now she's
into all the different she was. Those are the pages
she ripped out of that bulb catalog. What do you
do you sell these? Do you sell those? We want?
She loves the aliums.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
They are an extraordinary plant, great pollinator plant. They've got
a lot of give a lot of structure to any border.
You can plant them in amongst perennials. Because they're long,
tall stems are not going to crowd them or shade
them out. And there is no reason not to plant
allium they can fit. There is one for every yard.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Do you consider bulbs a high or low or medium
maintenance planting?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I consider it very low maintenance because you know, for instance,
our bulb lawn Dan and I planted that one morning.
You know, we had augurs on our drills, and we
planted you know, thousands of bulbs, you know, half a day,
and every year that comes back without me planting, without
a lot of you know, kinds of maintenance. The only
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maintenance I really have is that in a few places,
and not all I need to cut the foliage back
most places, you know, understrubs, in the lawn, everything like that.
I certainly don't buy that. But there's a few areas,
like up near the entrance of the house where I
cut back the forwards before the next perennials come up
and do their thing. So, you know, bulbs, if you
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use perennial bulbs, you plan them once and forget them.
And even if I want to plant tulips, you know
for a show that I know aren't perennial, it's fine.
You know. They cost about the same as annuals, so
I grow them, compost them, and get my other annuals in.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I love it. Talk with Peggy and Montgomery and again
great informational website at flower bulb dot eu talking about
planting those fall planted spring flowering bulbs. And I think
that's a great way to say that because it pretty
much explains what we're talking about. You know, one I
think the flies under the Radar, that's a tremendous show
and the critters stay away from as well. Is fritill area.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Oh aren't they special. I think that's kind of I
call it a gateway bulb rod because they're so unique
with that checkered pattern. That new garden see those and
can't imagine that they can grow them, and when they do,
they're so excited.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh yeah, And I think that when you buy them,
remember they're gonna smell, and that bulb smell and that's
what repels all the critters. They smell that and they
don't go after it either. But that's that's another one
one of those that again I think we used to
sell tons of them, and they kind of I don't know,
I think they kind of disappeared in the garden. But
that's one that you should definitely take a look at.
(40:26):
Good height to them, come back every year. Nice plant,
but it's called fritillaria, so keep that in mind as well.
Talking about Peggy and moctgarmery again, that website flowerbulb dot eu.
Do your homework. Peggy mcgarmery's got all the info of
it for you right there to do your planning before
you do your planting. And I kind of chuckled when
I to myself here when you were talking about got
(40:48):
your palt and your planter, the power planter, those augurs
out and started planting. And you've been doing this for
quite some time as well. Remember the old days when
you used to use those hand bulb planters or the
one that you had to like a shovel and you
put your foot on it and shoved it down in
the ground and pop that hole out.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Oh my gosh, that is too much work. I'd rather
work smarter than harder.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, really, I look at and we don't you know,
we don't sell those like we used to. As a
matter of fact, I still remember the one, and I
think we still sell them, the hand one that you
put in the ground and then you can squeeze it
and let the dirt out. The Uh, too much work
for me. Those yeh, those powers are too easy.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
They're really easy. They make very light work of panting bulbs.
And you know, that's a fun way to do it,
even to like get the kids involved. If you can
drill the holes and the kids can pop the bulbs.
In and put the soil back in. It's fun, fast work.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, we're at the beginning of the planting season for
fall planting of spring flowering bulbs, so do a little homework.
Get out to your local independent garden center. See what they've
gotten stock flowerbulb dot Eu. We'll get you started at
Peggy Montgomery, I'm sure we'll talk to you one more
time at least before the end of the fall planting
of for spring flowering bulbs. Thank you so much, always
(42:07):
a pleasure. All right, take care Peggy and Montgomery again
the website flower bulb dot Eu. All right, we're gonna
take another break. When we come back, phone lines will
be open for you. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardning. Uh, the end of
the September already fall season is here. Has been absolutely
(42:28):
wonderful so far. It looks like you might warm up
a little bit next week, but still wonderful. A little dry,
your plants are thirsty.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
G it out.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Make sure you're watering. But otherwise it's fall. Time to
get out and let's do some planting here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Landscaping made easier with your personal yard boy. He's in
the garden and he's Ron Wilson.
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