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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yard You don't forget our
website at Ron Wilson online dot com. And I have
so much fun when we have our beekeepers on the show.
Of course, Barbie Bletcher has been on with us so
many times over all these years, keeping us up to
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a date with the with the b situation, not only
in Ohio but all around the country. And she's a
she's a part of a trio. I call them the
Three Stingers. And the other two are Teresa Parker and
Nina Begley and what's it. And they're all beekeepers and
very unique ladies. And trust me, if you ever want
to attract a crowd at your business or your party,
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have these three show up at your business or party
and they will draw in a huge crowd because they
are so entertaining. But nevertheless, it's always fun to have
Nina on because Nina is actually a queen bee breeder.
As a matter of fact, she's a professional designer, seamstress,
master beekeeper. She's been doing this for over twenty two years.
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Specializes in urban beekeeping, and raising queen bees. Obviously, she's
an author for the Bee Culture magazine and she created
If you're a beekeeper, you may be interested in this.
She designed and created the Winter Beehive cover to help
protect hives from the harsh winters and wins in Ohio
and have every need you know, everything needed to help
keep the bees warm and happy and keep you successful
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as well. You can go to her website ohioqueenbee dot com.
That's Ohio queenbee dot com. And Nina Bagley is with
us this morning. Good morning, ma'am, good morning. Oh oh
your fans. Did you know you had that many fans?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, I feel like Rita now, Rita.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Rita has a lot of fair Everybody loves Rita.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yes, I know I'm following her footsteps. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah. Well, hey, listen, seriously, we're glad you got you
on this morning to talk about a very interesting thing
from one of the slides shows you or slies that
you sent me this week on the text. But first
of all, I want to so people understand, you know,
you're not only a bee keeper, and of course you
do you still do like the Ohio State House. And then.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, I'm still the Franklin County be Inspector and I
still have bees around Columbus, Ohio in the area.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, So so yes, yes, heavily involved obviously, But
you also are a queen breeder. So briefly, kind of
explain to folks what is a queen breeder.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I'm actually not like I raise queens, okay, and
I have very good stock up queens, so I breed
them in the spring and sell them, and the same
with with my nukes. I just have very good stock
that I developed over the years and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well you know, do do do queen?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So if you're not a queen breeder, it's just you
just you raise.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Queen because I raise queen. Joe Lax would be the
breeder Doctor Lax saw and he artificially inseminates them. Yes,
I am a breeder off of my stock, so yes,
I would say I am.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So you do it all basically because what it boils
down to, yees. So, how many of these queen bees
do you raise every year for other people?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, this year I did probably about forty. I didn't
do that many. But what I've been doing, like I
had told you before. I'm starting these classes in the spring,
teaching people how to raise their own queens so that
they can be sustainable, so that they don't have to
rely on queen people to sell them queens that they
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don't know what the genetics are, so they can be
sustainable and grasped off of a good stock that they
have a right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So somebody's listening saying, okay, great, So how do I
develop a queen bee from the bees that I have
right now?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You would have to graft. So if you have a
good hive that survives, say two years, and does very well,
her genetics are probably good, so you would probably want
to grasp off of her, and you would go in
and take a frame and grasp from her day old eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
What does that mean? From her?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You're taking a tool and you're going into the cells
and pulling out a day a day old egg to
two days old and putting it into a cell cup
and then putting it on a bar, and then you
put that into a hive that is queenless. And because
with a lot of nurse bees and because they know
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they're queenless, they'll start making cells for you and you'll
have a bunch of those peanut shells going across the
bar if you grafted the larvae right state.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Dumb dumb question for you, Ana, how do you know
that that the hive your working with is a queenless hive?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, because she's probably really mean and she's probably roaring,
and when you go in, they're running and scattered and
you don't see any brute or any eggs. So that
would be my first indication that this is this hive
is queenless. So I would go take some brood from
another hive that I have with eggs and larvae on
it and put it in there to calm her down.
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So now they think they've got a queen in there,
and they're calm down until you can put a new
queen in got it?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So when you put those in the new hive, then
do the workers automatically tend to them as as the
new queens?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
The cell? Yes, Yeah, if I put this cell in
the hive, they'll finish it off until she comes out
and they'll take care of her until she gets made it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Is that the royal jelly that you're always talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The Yeah, they'll feed her the royal jelly. They she'll
get most of the royal jelly. They decide which one
wants to become the queen, and they feed her the
royal jelly, and that's what develops her into the queens.
She gets more of the royal jelly.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Got it? So if I came to, you know, and
the winter is over and I'm inspecting my hives, I've
either lost everything or I don't have a queen. So
I get a hold of Nina Bagley and I say, Nina,
I need a new queen. What what do I get?
What do I get from you? An actual queen? And
how do I get it?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You actually get a really cool, wonderful, big beautiful queen
with five attendants and a little cage and a tiny
little plastic cage with a tube on it that has
sugar fond it packed in it so that when you
put it in the hive, the bees in the hive
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will start eating that sugar from one end of that
little plastic cage. And the bees inside the cave are
tending to the queen and they're also eating the sugar,
and they're smelling her pheromone, and they're getting to like her.
So when she does release and come out, they'll start
caring for her and taking care of her, And so.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The beekeeper determines when they release her from the cage.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well with the tube is probably about an inch long,
sort of take about two to three days for them
to eat through that sugar. Now, if it's a really mean, mean,
mean hive, they might kill her. So I usually put
a piece of tape on the end of it so
they can't get to that sugar too fast. Follow me,
I want them to get to know her better, so
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to understand her pheromone better, and then I'll come take
the tape off and then let them have their four
days to release her. And usually she's released better than
if I just would have thrown her into a mean,
mean hot hive.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh my gosh, I'm a llebel. When I get to
talk to you and Barb and Teresa, I learned, I mean,
I hear this stuff. Just phenomenal, the way these bees work.
And of course that you guys know them like the
back of your hand.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Uh being I'll never know them like that. We still
have a lot to learn, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But you do know a lot about them, and all
three of you do, and it's great that you share
the information that you do know, and you're right, you know,
I continue to learn, and it seems like you guys
always present new information as we do in this industry,
in the gardening industry as well, you learn something new
all the time. And I know with the bee keeping,
you know that new new research and new studies are
going on, which is rightfully so, uh, to learn more
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about them and of course to protect them from the
the mites and et cetera, et cetera. But this queen
bee thing, raising queen bees to give to other people,
to sell to other people just phenomenal. I just that's
crazy how that works. Anyway, you've been sending me this fall,
you've been sending me uh, and you've been posting on YouTube.
I guess that the videos of you harvesting the honey
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and Teresa and all of you harvesting honey. Uh, it's
been extremely warm, sweating your butt off to get this
honey out of there. It seems like you had a
really good honey crop this year.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I did, but I won't now until the spring. It's
kind of an interesting year because usually in August and
September we're in a dirt and we're feeding our bees
sugar water to get them ready for the winter and
giving them room so that they can lay enough winter
bees to make it through the winter. But this year,
towards the end of July, when I'm getting them ready
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for winter, I noticed they were bringing in this really
thick honey like my lasses, really really different, different flavor,
different color, and I mean hoarding it. I couldn't keep
up with them, and I didn't know what it was
because I've never seen it. But when I don't tell.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Us, spection, don't tell us. We're going to save that
for after the break.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I won't, okay, right, But when I was going inspections,
I started noticing it in central Ohio.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Got it, and.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It's keeping me, keeping me busy.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And you have been now. You sent me a picture
last week where you made one of your hives a
little upset in arc can be defensive even though you
take care of them. And you got stung a few times.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh, I had the wrong socks on. Apparently, Yes, it
was awful. I think my right leg they nailed me
about twenty five times, my left ankle about fifteen, and
they actually bruised me and put big old welts on me.
But I believe in APPA therapy for sure. Now because
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I was walking after I got stung, So there's something
to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, so I got I get this picture with all
these beast things, and she said, but the good thing
about it is my knees don't hurt, my legs don't hurt,
and I feel great.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I do it again. I do it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'll do it again. If it's going to make me
feel this good, I will pass on that one. I
don't know something about that.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
All right, we're gonna just did it. It made you
feel good?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, okay, I want to let I believe you, and
I'll save that for you. Anyway, let's take a break
and we come back. Nina was talking about this unusual honey.
She sent me a picture of this and said, any
idea what this? She knew, but any idea where this
came from? Very unusual a source of nectar to make
this late honey in the season. We'll find out what
it is after the break. Talking with Nina Beagley her website,
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Speaker 1 (13:21):
Welcome back here in the Gararden with Ron Wilson. We're
talking with Nina Bagley. She is an urban beekeeper and
of course she specialized in raising queen bees as well.
Got stung multiple times last week because she wore the
wrong socks. Can't believe you did that, but said, when
it was all said and done and she stopped crying,
she walked better. So there you go. More proof about
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the stinging of bees. No, I don't recommend it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Fun yeah, now, I think the people on the highway
got a kick of watching me roll around in the field.
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Uh that would have been fun. So when you when
you and Teresa and we get together and you're collecting honey,
you're doing whatever you're doing. You guys just laugh the whole.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Time all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I can imagine all the time. I can imagine. I
can't no, I can't imagine being a I just someday,
someday Barb.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
With her dry sends a humor. It's hysterical.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I can I can only imagine anyway, go ahead,
out of your mouth, right, yeah, exactly. Uh, talking with you,
Bagle ohioqueenbead dot com is her website. Be sure and
check it out. So Nina sent me a picture this
past week and they've been collecting this honey and it's
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a really unusual looking dark colored honey, told me, she said,
even as a somewhat of a smoky flavor to it,
and trying to figure out where it came from. So
folks understand, when the bees go out and collect the
nectar that they make the honey with, depending on what
flowers are collecting it from, does help to determine what the
flavor of the honey is going to be. In the
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color of the honey, right right, So when they were
like when black black locusts are in flour. You guys
kind of like it when black locusts are in flower, right,
that's a really sweet great honey. Yes, And like I'm
I like the darker honey, so you know, collecting up
for the darker honey almost tastes like sorghum. I love that. Well,
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this one looks the same way, so not sure where
it came from. So Nina did a little investigation and
what did you find out?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, it was quite interesting. In August, I pulled it
off and it tasted like the buckwheat molasses, maple dried fruit,
very citrusy, but very very very smoky. So I called
around and started asking questions, and I found out that
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if I had spotted lantern fly in my area, it
is most likely the honeydew from the spotted lantern fly.
Now I wouldn't have believed it, but I had seen
it the week before I spoke to these people, and
I just thought wow. So I called Robin Underwood. Barb
told me to call Robin Underwood at the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania
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University of Pennsylvania. They've been dealing with it since twenty fourteen,
and she said, you know, that's probably what it is.
So I called Ohio State and they said, you know,
they noticed something strange in their hives. So we started
taking samples. Tia at Ohio State is gonna she sampled
it out, and yeah, we have the spotted lantern fly, honeydew,
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honey and columbus. Now I'm finding it more prevalent in
the city here than like in Hilliard, Upper Arlington in
those places. But it's coming. It's that's the fairgrounds, yea.
That yeah, we've got it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I mean southern Ohio. I mean it's really spread throughout
the state, and of course it's moving its way across
the Midwest and everybody's going to wind up seeing this
thing down the road. And it's probably one of the
most beautiful insects that you can see them as gorgeous insects.
But like I've always told folks, it's like an aphoon
on steroids. So they produce a tremendous amount of honey honeydew,
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which is that sweet, sweet spotted lantern fly poop. So
the bottom line is the bees, it is kind of
it's their excrement. Don't call poop, I know, but I
thought it was kind of funny because it's s you know,
the SLF sp spotted lighterfly poop, and they're turning it
into really cool honey from the spotted lanternfly. So we
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got this thing coming through that we don't like having.
But guess who's taking advantage of it, and that would
be the honey bees and making honey, especially late in
the season.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yes, yes, and now it could be a double ed sword.
I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's good because
I don't have to feed my bees where most beekeepers
are putting sugar water on their bees now. But the
problem is they bring it in their hoarders. They bring
it in so fast, filling up my food space for
her to make winter bees. And because of the fact
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that they bring this honeydew back and they converted the
bees converted into the to the honey, they take out
some of the sugars so it has a high ass
content and it's a little bit more watery. So I
hope my bees don't get dysentery. That's one of the
effects that can happen, and I would have to I've
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got to keep an eye on that, so I don't
I'll know in the spring. But for the bee keepers
out there, if it's coming your way, you really have
to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And it's called the spotted lantern fly. And of course
you can find information about that on our website. You
can go to the ODA the byg L dot OSU
dot e du learn more about it. Of course we
talked about on our show as well. But I just
thought that was so interesting that that spotted lantern fly.
I'm sorry, poop turned into a great honey. Dina Bangley,
always a pleasure. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm going to give you some job.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
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