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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. You know,
if you want to light up your yard next spring,
what do you do? Will you plant bulbs in the fall?
And of course when it comes to talking about bulbs,
whether there's spring bulbs or fall bulbs or summer bulbs.
And you got questions about bulbs, who do we go to?
We go to the bulb lady and she has all
(00:22):
of our answers. Who happens to that be? Well, that
happens to be? And by the way, the website is
flowerbub dot eu. Peggy and Montgomery put Morgan, how are
you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I am great. I'll tell you I love this cool weather.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh it's absolutely outstanding. Are you ever in a bad mood?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh? I suppose sometimes.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I have never talked to you, emailed you texted you
that you were you know you were? You were always
so up? Is that because of the bulbs that you're
planting bulbs all the time?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know what, I have a pretty great job. I
get to tell people about bulbs and get them excited
about using them. And that's pretty as much as good
as they get. So I'll tell you what flowers make
people happy? And Ron, You and I have always known that,
but science proves it too, no.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Doubt about now. We were talking earlier in our show
about you know, scientists are seeing how kids should be
playing more in the dirt because they benefit from the
microbes and things that are in the soil that they
need to do that, and also about psychologists saying, you know,
you got to just take your shoes off when you're
really stressed and take a walk through the turf, through
the lawn. How relaxing that could be. For some reason,
(01:38):
I picture Peggy and Montgomery as someone who probably does
that on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know I do. And there's a lot of talk
now about grounding, you know, and getting you know, by
being barefoot and instead of wearing shoes with rubber. That's
a really good thing. And when you're out gardening, there's
microbes in the soil that are getting inside you and
triggering all the happy hormones. So we know that getting
(02:04):
out and gardening is great for you, it's great for
your kids. And guess what, you can even go over
to grabby Grandpa's house and do some gardening, plant some
bulbs for a surprise next spring.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I love it all right, so let's get started here.
First of all, are they fall bulbs or spring bulbs?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Isn't that crazy? I think that's one thing that makes
it hard for consumers sometimes we'ron so I kind of
always had the word planted fall planted bulbs, spring blooming
bulbs to try to make it a little more clear.
So in the fall we're planting things like tulips and
daffodils and grape hyacinths, and next spring we'll be planting
(02:45):
things like lilies and dahlia's.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, and and and those are things that that will
flower forest mostly in the summer, but planting needs in
the fall. The reason being.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Is what you know, they come from areas where they
do have a cold period like a turkey and you
know in the in the Far East, and so they
need to have that cold period in order to bloom.
So we'd like to get them in the ground in
the fall before your soil is frozen, so they can
(03:19):
put down some roots and get established and then they
go through the cold period that is normal to them
from where they hail, and then they will bloom for
us in the spring.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So planning in the fall gives them that cold period
that they need, and then of course in flower I
set that ball the flower head, and of course they
flower for in the spring. What if folks do that
are down in Florida that want a few balls, I
guess they've got to refrigerate.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Those, right, Yeah, there is there is a way you
can refrigerate them to kind of mimic a cold cycle.
And many places where you buy bulbs and I would
you know, you can look online or other places they
have bulbs that have already been professionally pre chilled.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, so when you're looking and you see those hyacinths
in there and it says pre chilled, that's what they're
talking about. So they're ready to go. So if you
potted them up in a pot or you planted them
in the ground, they're ready to start to grow and
flower for you right away. And that's what the pre
chilled means when you see that. Talking with Peggy and Montgomery,
she's the horticulturos for flowerbulb dot Eu a great website,
(04:22):
be sure and check it out. Talking about planting those
spring flowering bulbs and a fall planting and that's why
we plan the fall. Now. If we go out to
our local independent garden centers right now, and we look
around they've started to bring just starting to bring in
all of their spring flowering bulbs. So now's a great
time as far as selection. But what do you recommend planting.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, it kind of depends on your zone. Ideally
you want to get them in the ground, you know,
for six weeks before your soil is going to freeze.
So you know we're looking at depending on where you are,
late September October here in the mid Atlantic, we can
even go into November.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, you know, I've actually gotten into you know, we're
the same way. We don't get a real good, actual
soil freeze until you get to the end of the year.
And you know, if you're lucky, I mean even if
you get at that soon. So you know, we were
fortunate enough to be able to actually plant. That's why
a lot of times, you know, and I always whisper,
but you know, around the mid November a lot of
(05:25):
garden centers trying to get rid of whatever is left over.
Great time to scarf those up. Still plenty of time
to plant.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I got to tell you my husband, as you know,
is a horticulturist, and he breaks the rule every year
and he plants right through November and sometimes into December.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Good man, he's I always knew he was a rebel
because he hangs out with you. Yeah, it must be
talk with Peggy and Montgomery again. The websites are great
when flowerball dot eu. So we're going to talk after
the break. We're going to talk about planting balls in
your your yard. But I noticed that kind of a
(06:04):
spring flowering bulb, actually a late winter early spring flowering bulb,
that kind of I think it gets overlooked and we
don't notice this one as much, and it's actually a
wonderful welcome to the spring season. Is the twenty twenty
five fall bulb of the year. And that snow.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Drops, Oh my favorite ron. I don't know how many
thousands we must have in our yard, but they're my
favorite spring bloom.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And it really is early. I mean, you will see
them coming up through the snow as we're getting through
the late winter in the early spring. And one of
the good things about them too, which happens with a
lot of these bulbs, is the fact they're so good
for the early pollinators.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Great for the early pollinators, and snowdrops are kind of
magical because they even produce some of their own sheet
and that's how they can come up to the snow.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes, all of a sudden, you look and all of sudden,
the snow kind of disappears around where that foliage is
coming up, and they're able to do that kind of
like skunk cabbage.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Exactly like skunk cabbage. It's the same process.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Here you go talk with Peggy and mcgarmery. Let's take
a quick break. We come back. We'll talk more about
planting early spring flowering bulbs, including playing them in the lawn.
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Speaker 1 (08:45):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special guest.
We always have so much fun when this young lady
is on with us. We're talking balls with Peggy and
Montgomery website Flowerball Dot e U. Peggy and Montgomery went.
We're talking about the snow being the twenty twenty five
fall bulb of the year fall ball meaning fall planting
(09:06):
of spring flowering bulbs. You know, some folks are gonna
be sit out there going you know, what. I'm tired
of planting bulbs because all I get are the deer
and the rabbits eating those. What about the snowdrops.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, they don't bother those. And Ron this is actually
really great. If you go to flower bulb dot eu,
you can search it and they'll be articles to tell
you more about this. And we don't sell anything there.
This is justication inspiration. But there are a lot of
minor bulbs, spring flowering bulbs that deer do not eat,
(09:38):
and you know, daffodils being one of them. They do
like tulips, however, but I know people that have had
great luck planting their tulips here and there with the daffodils.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Back in the daffodils, so the deer don't recognize.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Them, yeah, exactly, And they don't like the smell of
those daffodils, so they leave the two alone. But there
are plenty of bulbs that deer won't bother.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And I think the other thing too, remember is we
keep talking about pollinators and being pollinator polite in your
in all of your gardening, and a lot of these
spring flowering bulbs are excellent for all the pollinators out there.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, they really are and when the bumble bees
and solitary bees emerge very early, they don't have energy
to fly very far. And so when you plant a
big stand of early flowering bulbs, they have a place
to go and eat. And it's a really important time
because very little else is flowering.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yep. Now, listen, when you're out and you're gonna buy
if you're looking to go to the snow drops. So
you're going to go to your garden center this weekend
or next two weekend and you say, Okay, I'm going
to get some snowdrops and plant them. Don't just get
five or six or eight, right, get twenty five or
fifty or one hundred. And the time you spend it
won't take you very long to get those planted, and
they do naturalize, so they'll continue to spread for you.
(10:58):
But once you get those planets, and when you see
the results next spring, you will be thanking Peggy and
Montgomery for buying a whole bunch of them. Planting those.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, think about it as an investment because you put
them in this fall, and that is something you know
they're going to multiply. They multiply fairly quickly, and so
you're going to have a bigger and better show every
single year. You can't get better bang for your buck.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I got to tell you a quick story here. For
all my life here and all my life, all my
married life, I've been most the main gardener. My wife
really doesn't get involved too much with gardening. Over the
last couple years, all of a sudden, she's just started
getting involved with container gardening and house plants and things
like that. A couple days ago, we got a Ball
catalog in the mail and she was going through the
(11:43):
Ball catalog and showed it up. She said, she showed
me this picture of crocus and she said, let's plant
these in the grass. And I said, oh yeah, I
kind of laugh and I said, you know what, why
don't you listen to the show on Saturday, because we're
going to talk about Stenson Pluttin and planting those in
the grass. And she said, what is Stenson Pluttin? I
(12:04):
spelled it for. I said, you look it up. And
then she came back said, how do you know all this?
I said, because I talked to Peggy Gummery.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's so great. Yeah, we have a stins of garden
and what that really is it's a lot of very
early flowering bulbs that we grow right in our grass.
We let them flower. It extends our gardening season by
a couple of months, and then we let the foliage
naturally sines and then we don't mow it until that's happened.
(12:35):
So you know, and I have a border of cut
grass around the stins of garden so it looks intentional
and neat for my neighbors. But some people still don't
like to mow that late. And for those folks, a
crocus lawn is where it's at. You go ahead and
plant as many crocus as you possibly can in the lawn.
They're going to come up, they're going to bloom, they
(12:58):
are going to entice you to get outside and believe
springs coming. They're going to feed the pollinators. And there's
little foliage that dies back very quickly, so you can
just keep going with your normal mowing pattern.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and so think about that. I mean, really, when
these come up, these crocus come up, is very early
in the springtime. The lawns are starting to green a
little bit, starting to come up. But here are these
crocus they're flowering in that lawn. You get to enjoy
those and right when the lawn's probably starting to reach
a point where it's time to start thinking about mowing.
Guess who's all finished and done, and that would be
the crocus. Now, the only limitation here would be, which
(13:33):
is like with any flowering lawn, is that you've got
to be more cautious about weed control, using weed killers
and things like that in the lawn. That would affect
those bulbs. But other than that, it's it doesn't really
mess up your routine of spring maintenance of the turf.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And if turf is very important
to you and you have built in irrigation and used
chemicals like that, maybe bulb laon isn't for you. But
you can still plant those crocus under your deciduous shrubs
and trees because they'll get light.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
In the spring exactly. And again, I think the thing
of it, you know, you get if you can get
some of the get some of the catalogs just so
you get them just for inspiration, and then get out
your locally owned independent garden centers and see all the
great things that they're going to have on their shelves
over the next month, month and a half maybe two
for you to plant that will flower in the springtime
and you'll be amazed. And I think, you know when
(14:28):
I look at that when it comes to planting spring
flowering bulbs, and you know there are and again your
your website flowerbulb dot eu. The information there is phenomenal.
Is to do a little bit of homework. Go to
that website or whatever it may be, look at the
catalogs and start looking at the different stages of when
things flower so that you can plant it out. You could.
(14:48):
I mean Peggy and Montgomery have things flowering from late February,
early March right on through April and into May.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh absolutely know on a on a light you know,
winter year here, we'll start getting flowers winter aconites in January.
It's going to go right through every month of spring,
and then because of the aliums, we're going to go
right through June.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's the one that my
wife has gotten into now, the aliums. I planted her
a mix of aliums two years ago and now she's
into all the different she was. Those are the pages
she ripped out of that bulb catalog. What do you
do you sell these? Do you sell those?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We want?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
She loves the aliums.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh. They are an extraordinary plant, great pollinator plant. They've
got a lot of give a lot of structure to
any border. You can plant them in amongst perennials. Because
they're long, tall stems are not going to crowd them
or shade them out. And there is no reason not
to plant alium they can fit. There is one for
every yard.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Do you consider bulbs a high or low or medium
maintenance planting?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I consider it very low maintenance because you know, for instance,
our bulb lawn, Dan and I planted that one morning,
you know, we had augurs on our drills and we planted,
you know, thousands of bulbs, you know, half a day,
and every year that comes back without me planting, without
a lot of you know, kinds of maintenance. The only
(16:24):
maintenance I really have is that in a few places,
and not all I need to cut the foliage back
most places, you know, undershrubs in the lawn everything like that.
I certainly don't bother with that. But there's a few areas,
like up near the entrance of the house where I
cut back the forwards before the next perennials come up
and do their thing. So you know, bulbs. If you
(16:47):
use perennial bulbs, you plant them once and forget them.
And even if I want to plant tulips, you know,
for a show that I know aren't perennial, it's fine.
You know. They cost about the same as annuals, So
I grow them, come post him and get my other annuals. Hand.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I love it talk with Peggy and Montgomery and again
the great informational website at flower bulb dot eu talking
about planting those fall planted spring flowering bulbs. And I
think that's a great way to say that because it
pretty much explains what we're talking about. You know, I
think the flies under the radar that's a tremendous show
and the critters stay away from as well is fritile area.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh aren't they special? I think that's kind of I
call it a gateway bulb rod because they're so unique
with that checker pattern that new gardeners see those and
can't imagine that they can grow them, and when they do,
they're so excited.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh yeah. And I think that when you buy them,
remember they're gonna smell, and that bulb smell, and that's
what repels all the critters. They smell that and they
don't go after it either. But that's another one one
of those that again I think we used to sell
tons of them, and they kind of I don't know,
I think they kind of disappeared in the garden. But
that's one that you should definitely take a look at.
(18:01):
Good height to them, come back every year. Nice plant.
But it's called fritillaria, so keep that in mind as well.
Talk about Peggy and mcgarmiery again that website flowerbulb dot eu.
Do your homework. Uh, Peggy mcgarmery's got all the info
of it for you right there to do your planning
before you do your planting. And I kind of chuckled
when I to myself here when you were talking about
(18:23):
got your pout and your planter, the power planter, those
augurs out and started planting. And you've been doing this
for quite some time as well. Remember the old days
when you used to use those hand bulb planters or
the one that you had to like a shovel and
you put your foot on it, shoved it down in
the ground and pop that hole out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh my gosh, that is too much work. I'd rather
work smarter than harder.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, really I look at and we don't. You know,
we don't sell those like we used to. As a
matter of fact, I still remember the one that I
think we still sell them, the hand one that you
put in the ground and then you can squeeze it
and let the dirt out. The uh too much work
for me.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Those, Yeah, those power augurs are too easy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They're really easy. They make very light work of planting bulbs.
And you know, that's a fun way to do it,
even to like get the kids involved. If you can
drill the holes and the kids can pop the bulbs
in and put the soil back in, it's fun, fast work.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, we're at the beginning of the planting season for
fall planting of spring flowering bulbs, so do a little homework.
Get out to your local independent garden center see what
they've gotten stock flowerbulb dot Eu. We'll get you started
at Peggy A. Montgomery. I'm sure we'll talk to you
one more time at least before the end of the
fall planting for spring flowering bulbs. Thank you so much,
(19:42):
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thanks Rod.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, take care Peggy and Montgomery again the website
flower bulb dot Eu. All right, we're gonna take another break.
When we come back, phone lines will be open for you.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Talking
about yardening, the end of the September. Already fall season
is here. Has been absolutely wonderful so far. It looks
(20:05):
like you might warm up a little bit next week,
but still wonderful. A little dry, your plants are thirsty,
g it out. Make sure you're watering, but otherwise it's
fall time to get out and let's do some planting
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Landscaping made easier with your personal yard boy. He's in
the garden and he's Ron Wilson.
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. You know,
if you want to light up your yard next spring,
what do you do? Will you plant bulbs in the fall?
And of course when it comes to talking about bulbs,
whether there's spring bulbs or fall bulbs or summer bulbs.
And you got questions about bulbs, who do we go to?
We go to the bulb lady and she has all
(00:22):
of our answers. Who happens to that be? Well, that
happens to be? And by the way, the website is
flowerbub dot eu. Peggy and Montgomery put Morgan, how are
you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I am great. I'll tell you I love this cool weather.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh it's absolutely outstanding. Are you ever in a bad mood?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh? I suppose sometimes.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I have never talked to you, emailed you texted you
that you were you know you were? You were always
so up? Is that because of the bulbs that you're
planting bulbs all the time?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know what, I have a pretty great job. I
get to tell people about bulbs and get them excited
about using them. And that's pretty as much as good
as they get. So I'll tell you what flowers make
people happy? And Ron, You and I have always known that,
but science proves it too, no.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Doubt about now. We were talking earlier in our show
about you know, scientists are seeing how kids should be
playing more in the dirt because they benefit from the
microbes and things that are in the soil that they
need to do that, and also about psychologists saying, you know,
you got to just take your shoes off when you're
really stressed and take a walk through the turf, through
the lawn. How relaxing that could be. For some reason,
(01:38):
I picture Peggy and Montgomery as someone who probably does
that on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know I do. And there's a lot of talk
now about grounding, you know, and getting you know, by
being barefoot and instead of wearing shoes with rubber. That's
a really good thing. And when you're out gardening, there's
microbes in the soil that are getting inside you and
triggering all the happy hormones. So we know that getting
(02:04):
out and gardening is great for you, it's great for
your kids. And guess what, you can even go over
to grabby Grandpa's house and do some gardening, plant some
bulbs for a surprise next spring.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I love it all right, so let's get started here.
First of all, are they fall bulbs or spring bulbs?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Isn't that crazy? I think that's one thing that makes
it hard for consumers sometimes we'ron so I kind of
always had the word planted fall planted bulbs, spring blooming
bulbs to try to make it a little more clear.
So in the fall we're planting things like tulips and
daffodils and grape hyacinths, and next spring we'll be planting
(02:45):
things like lilies and dahlia's.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, and and and those are things that that will
flower forest mostly in the summer, but planting needs in
the fall. The reason being.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Is what you know, they come from areas where they
do have a cold period like a turkey and you
know in the in the Far East, and so they
need to have that cold period in order to bloom.
So we'd like to get them in the ground in
the fall before your soil is frozen, so they can
(03:19):
put down some roots and get established and then they
go through the cold period that is normal to them
from where they hail, and then they will bloom for
us in the spring.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So planning in the fall gives them that cold period
that they need, and then of course in flower I
set that ball the flower head, and of course they
flower for in the spring. What if folks do that
are down in Florida that want a few balls, I
guess they've got to refrigerate.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Those, right, Yeah, there is there is a way you
can refrigerate them to kind of mimic a cold cycle.
And many places where you buy bulbs and I would
you know, you can look online or other places they
have bulbs that have already been professionally pre chilled.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, so when you're looking and you see those hyacinths
in there and it says pre chilled, that's what they're
talking about. So they're ready to go. So if you
potted them up in a pot or you planted them
in the ground, they're ready to start to grow and
flower for you right away. And that's what the pre
chilled means when you see that. Talking with Peggy and Montgomery,
she's the horticulturos for flowerbulb dot Eu a great website,
(04:22):
be sure and check it out. Talking about planting those
spring flowering bulbs and a fall planting and that's why
we plan the fall. Now. If we go out to
our local independent garden centers right now, and we look
around they've started to bring just starting to bring in
all of their spring flowering bulbs. So now's a great
time as far as selection. But what do you recommend planting.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, it kind of depends on your zone. Ideally
you want to get them in the ground, you know,
for six weeks before your soil is going to freeze.
So you know we're looking at depending on where you are,
late September October here in the mid Atlantic, we can
even go into November.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, you know, I've actually gotten into you know, we're
the same way. We don't get a real good, actual
soil freeze until you get to the end of the year.
And you know, if you're lucky, I mean even if
you get at that soon. So you know, we were
fortunate enough to be able to actually plant. That's why
a lot of times, you know, and I always whisper,
but you know, around the mid November a lot of
(05:25):
garden centers trying to get rid of whatever is left over.
Great time to scarf those up. Still plenty of time
to plant.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I got to tell you my husband, as you know,
is a horticulturist, and he breaks the rule every year
and he plants right through November and sometimes into December.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Good man, he's I always knew he was a rebel
because he hangs out with you. Yeah, it must be
talk with Peggy and Montgomery again. The websites are great
when flowerball dot eu. So we're going to talk after
the break. We're going to talk about planting balls in
your your yard. But I noticed that kind of a
(06:04):
spring flowering bulb, actually a late winter early spring flowering bulb,
that kind of I think it gets overlooked and we
don't notice this one as much, and it's actually a
wonderful welcome to the spring season. Is the twenty twenty
five fall bulb of the year. And that snow.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Drops, Oh my favorite ron. I don't know how many
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Speaker 1 (06:31):
And it really is early. I mean, you will see
them coming up through the snow as we're getting through
the late winter in the early spring. And one of
the good things about them too, which happens with a
lot of these bulbs, is the fact they're so good
for the early pollinators.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Great for the early pollinators, and snowdrops are kind of
magical because they even produce some of their own sheet
and that's how they can come up to the snow.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes, all of a sudden, you look and all of sudden,
the snow kind of disappears around where that foliage is
coming up, and they're able to do that kind of
like skunk cabbage.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Exactly like skunk cabbage. It's the same process.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Here you go talk with Peggy and mcgarmery. Let's take
a quick break. We come back. We'll talk more about
planting early spring flowering bulbs, including playing them in the lawn.
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Speaker 1 (08:45):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson's special guest.
We always have so much fun when this young lady
is on with us. We're talking balls with Peggy and
Montgomery website Flowerball Dot e U. Peggy and Montgomery went.
We're talking about the snow being the twenty twenty five
fall bulb of the year fall ball meaning fall planting
(09:06):
of spring flowering bulbs. You know, some folks are gonna
be sit out there going you know, what. I'm tired
of planting bulbs because all I get are the deer
and the rabbits eating those. What about the snowdrops.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, they don't bother those. And Ron this is actually
really great. If you go to flower bulb dot eu,
you can search it and they'll be articles to tell
you more about this. And we don't sell anything there.
This is justication inspiration. But there are a lot of
minor bulbs, spring flowering bulbs that deer do not eat,
(09:38):
and you know, daffodils being one of them. They do
like tulips, however, but I know people that have had
great luck planting their tulips here and there with the daffodils.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Back in the daffodils, so the deer don't recognize.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Them, yeah, exactly, And they don't like the smell of
those daffodils, so they leave the two alone. But there
are plenty of bulbs that deer won't bother.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And I think the other thing too, remember is we
keep talking about pollinators and being pollinator polite in your
in all of your gardening, and a lot of these
spring flowering bulbs are excellent for all the pollinators out there.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, they really are and when the bumble bees
and solitary bees emerge very early, they don't have energy
to fly very far. And so when you plant a
big stand of early flowering bulbs, they have a place
to go and eat. And it's a really important time
because very little else is flowering.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yep. Now, listen, when you're out and you're gonna buy
if you're looking to go to the snow drops. So
you're going to go to your garden center this weekend
or next two weekend and you say, Okay, I'm going
to get some snowdrops and plant them. Don't just get
five or six or eight, right, get twenty five or
fifty or one hundred. And the time you spend it
won't take you very long to get those planted, and
they do naturalize, so they'll continue to spread for you.
(10:58):
But once you get those planets, and when you see
the results next spring, you will be thanking Peggy and
Montgomery for buying a whole bunch of them. Planting those.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, think about it as an investment because you put
them in this fall, and that is something you know
they're going to multiply. They multiply fairly quickly, and so
you're going to have a bigger and better show every
single year. You can't get better bang for your buck.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I got to tell you a quick story here. For
all my life here and all my life, all my
married life, I've been most the main gardener. My wife
really doesn't get involved too much with gardening. Over the
last couple years, all of a sudden, she's just started
getting involved with container gardening and house plants and things
like that. A couple days ago, we got a Ball
catalog in the mail and she was going through the
(11:43):
Ball catalog and showed it up. She said, she showed
me this picture of crocus and she said, let's plant
these in the grass. And I said, oh yeah, I
kind of laugh and I said, you know what, why
don't you listen to the show on Saturday, because we're
going to talk about Stenson Pluttin and planting those in
the grass. And she said, what is Stenson Pluttin? I
(12:04):
spelled it for. I said, you look it up. And
then she came back said, how do you know all this?
I said, because I talked to Peggy Gummery.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's so great. Yeah, we have a stins of garden
and what that really is it's a lot of very
early flowering bulbs that we grow right in our grass.
We let them flower. It extends our gardening season by
a couple of months, and then we let the foliage
naturally sines and then we don't mow it until that's happened.
(12:35):
So you know, and I have a border of cut
grass around the stins of garden so it looks intentional
and neat for my neighbors. But some people still don't
like to mow that late. And for those folks, a
crocus lawn is where it's at. You go ahead and
plant as many crocus as you possibly can in the lawn.
They're going to come up, they're going to bloom, they
(12:58):
are going to entice you to get outside and believe
springs coming. They're going to feed the pollinators. And there's
little foliage that dies back very quickly, so you can
just keep going with your normal mowing pattern.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, and so think about that. I mean, really, when
these come up, these crocus come up, is very early
in the springtime. The lawns are starting to green a
little bit, starting to come up. But here are these
crocus they're flowering in that lawn. You get to enjoy
those and right when the lawn's probably starting to reach
a point where it's time to start thinking about mowing.
Guess who's all finished and done, and that would be
the crocus. Now, the only limitation here would be, which
(13:33):
is like with any flowering lawn, is that you've got
to be more cautious about weed control, using weed killers
and things like that in the lawn. That would affect
those bulbs. But other than that, it's it doesn't really
mess up your routine of spring maintenance of the turf.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And if turf is very important
to you and you have built in irrigation and used
chemicals like that, maybe bulb laon isn't for you. But
you can still plant those crocus under your deciduous shrubs
and trees because they'll get light.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
In the spring exactly. And again, I think the thing
of it, you know, you get if you can get
some of the get some of the catalogs just so
you get them just for inspiration, and then get out
your locally owned independent garden centers and see all the
great things that they're going to have on their shelves
over the next month, month and a half maybe two
for you to plant that will flower in the springtime
and you'll be amazed. And I think, you know when
(14:28):
I look at that when it comes to planting spring
flowering bulbs, and you know there are and again your
your website flowerbulb dot eu. The information there is phenomenal.
Is to do a little bit of homework. Go to
that website or whatever it may be, look at the
catalogs and start looking at the different stages of when
things flower so that you can plant it out. You could.
(14:48):
I mean Peggy and Montgomery have things flowering from late February,
early March right on through April and into May.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh absolutely know on a on a light you know,
winter year here, we'll start getting flowers winter aconites in January.
It's going to go right through every month of spring,
and then because of the aliums, we're going to go
right through June.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's the one that my
wife has gotten into now, the aliums. I planted her
a mix of aliums two years ago and now she's
into all the different she was. Those are the pages
she ripped out of that bulb catalog. What do you
do you sell these? Do you sell those?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We want?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
She loves the aliums.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh. They are an extraordinary plant, great pollinator plant. They've
got a lot of give a lot of structure to
any border. You can plant them in amongst perennials. Because
they're long, tall stems are not going to crowd them
or shade them out. And there is no reason not
to plant alium they can fit. There is one for
every yard.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Do you consider bulbs a high or low or medium
maintenance planting?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I consider it very low maintenance because you know, for instance,
our bulb lawn, Dan and I planted that one morning,
you know, we had augurs on our drills and we planted,
you know, thousands of bulbs, you know, half a day,
and every year that comes back without me planting, without
a lot of you know, kinds of maintenance. The only
(16:24):
maintenance I really have is that in a few places,
and not all I need to cut the foliage back
most places, you know, undershrubs in the lawn everything like that.
I certainly don't bother with that. But there's a few areas,
like up near the entrance of the house where I
cut back the forwards before the next perennials come up
and do their thing. So you know, bulbs. If you
(16:47):
use perennial bulbs, you plant them once and forget them.
And even if I want to plant tulips, you know,
for a show that I know aren't perennial, it's fine.
You know. They cost about the same as annuals, So
I grow them, come post him and get my other annuals. Hand.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I love it talk with Peggy and Montgomery and again
the great informational website at flower bulb dot eu talking
about planting those fall planted spring flowering bulbs. And I
think that's a great way to say that because it
pretty much explains what we're talking about. You know, I
think the flies under the radar that's a tremendous show
and the critters stay away from as well is fritile area.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh aren't they special? I think that's kind of I
call it a gateway bulb rod because they're so unique
with that checker pattern that new gardeners see those and
can't imagine that they can grow them, and when they do,
they're so excited.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh yeah. And I think that when you buy them,
remember they're gonna smell, and that bulb smell, and that's
what repels all the critters. They smell that and they
don't go after it either. But that's another one one
of those that again I think we used to sell
tons of them, and they kind of I don't know,
I think they kind of disappeared in the garden. But
that's one that you should definitely take a look at.
(18:01):
Good height to them, come back every year. Nice plant.
But it's called fritillaria, so keep that in mind as well.
Talk about Peggy and mcgarmiery again that website flowerbulb dot eu.
Do your homework. Uh, Peggy mcgarmery's got all the info
of it for you right there to do your planning
before you do your planting. And I kind of chuckled
when I to myself here when you were talking about
(18:23):
got your pout and your planter, the power planter, those
augurs out and started planting. And you've been doing this
for quite some time as well. Remember the old days
when you used to use those hand bulb planters or
the one that you had to like a shovel and
you put your foot on it, shoved it down in
the ground and pop that hole out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh my gosh, that is too much work. I'd rather
work smarter than harder.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, really I look at and we don't. You know,
we don't sell those like we used to. As a
matter of fact, I still remember the one that I
think we still sell them, the hand one that you
put in the ground and then you can squeeze it
and let the dirt out. The uh too much work
for me.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Those, Yeah, those power augurs are too easy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They're really easy. They make very light work of planting bulbs.
And you know, that's a fun way to do it,
even to like get the kids involved. If you can
drill the holes and the kids can pop the bulbs
in and put the soil back in, it's fun, fast work.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, we're at the beginning of the planting season for
fall planting of spring flowering bulbs, so do a little homework.
Get out to your local independent garden center see what
they've gotten stock flowerbulb dot Eu. We'll get you started
at Peggy A. Montgomery. I'm sure we'll talk to you
one more time at least before the end of the
fall planting for spring flowering bulbs. Thank you so much,
(19:42):
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thanks Rod.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, take care Peggy and Montgomery again the website
flower bulb dot Eu. All right, we're gonna take another break.
When we come back, phone lines will be open for you.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Talking
about yardening, the end of the September. Already fall season
is here. Has been absolutely wonderful so far. It looks
(20:05):
like you might warm up a little bit next week,
but still wonderful. A little dry, your plants are thirsty,
g it out. Make sure you're watering, but otherwise it's
fall time to get out and let's do some planting
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
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