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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding. Don't forget our website,
it's Ron Wilson online dot com. Of course Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. Now, every
year we have this young man on our show to
kind of give us an update on well, if you're
into growing giant pumpkins, this is the man we like
(00:22):
to talk to because he is our giant pumpkin growing expert,
and it's always fun to find out how the weather
affects them. Where we are right now, because you know,
sometime in September and October they're going to be harvesting
these pumpkins that way more than a Volkswagen, so we're
gonna find out. Yeah, I am right there, and of
course he has been with us, like I said many
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many years. Today's broadcasting to us live from a unnamed
campground in the state of Ohio. We're not going to
tell you where he is because everybody would flock to
find him, but he's camping out this morning. Jerry Rose,
Good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Ron is a sweet smell me let.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Me clarify. First, I'm camping about ten miles from my
house because you can't be too far from the pumpkins.
That I'm actually at home right now getting ready to
spray for bugs and diseases.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Ah well, that was my third question. The first question
was can you smell the blackstone grills firing up already
with pancakes and bacon.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That will be in a couple three hours. I it's
my wife knows this time of the year, you don't
go real far away from home because I can put
sixty eight hours, six to eight hours a day into
the plants if I want to, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I'm just I'm just telling you. This is Jerry Rose,
who also sleeps with his pumpkins. We'll talk more about
that later. Second question was you have to have like
a huge recycling container at your campground for all those
global cans or whatever you guys decided that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There's a few. I had a few around the campfire
last night. Yeah, it's the pumpkin girl, don't we don't
you got time for that? But you know, in your
camp and you can sit around the fire and have
a few, that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And third then my question was how can you go
camping when you've got those precious pumpkins back at home.
But you've already answered that one.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it's like I said, I'll be home un till
probably about ten o'clock this morning. And as soon as
we hang up, I got water and all my spray
is ready to go for you know, the bugs and diseases,
which haven't been too bad yet. We've been getting some
cucumber beetles and uh uh and other Other than that.
The biggest test I'm having right now, and me and
him are fighting and we're gonna have a war here quickly.
I've already had a war as a groundhog.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Uh uh, Yeah, you need to call me in. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That was my I got was two strands of electric
fencer out the patch the other day, and I got
live traps and cond of bears, and we're gonna ge.
We're gonna get him here eventually.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know. That was my nickname back in the when
I was in the school at high school. Yeah, it
was the groundhog. That was my CEV name. Because the
farmers actually hired me to help extra reminate the groundhogs
on their farms.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I do that too. I mean they can occasionally get
lead poison, but I haven't seen this one long enough
to get him yet yet.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
No, it could be tough talking with Jerry Rose. Of course.
If you want to learn more about all this, go
to Big Pumpkins dot com. Great website. You'll see Jerry's
name and articles and all kinds of stuff on there
for you. So let's get everybody as First of all,
a summary from twenty twenty four, which you when I
saw you in October at the way off in at Oakland,
you were not the happiest camper of all campers when
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it comes to the pumpkins. But at the when it
was all said and done, of course, the Stelts did
extremely well.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Uh yeah, he did really well.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my gosh, Carol did I don't know what Dave did,
but you wound up. You wound up coming in, if
I'm not mistaken, seventy sixth in the world with a
nineteen hundred and eighty three and a half pound pumpkin.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah. I wasn't too bad expecting that. You know, you
always hear us talking. We call what we go chart,
go heavy, go light. My pumpkin estimated that nineteen eighty
three was estimating a little over twenty two hundred pounds,
and you know, I was hoping for at least a
two thousand pounder, and it went what we call light,
so you know it. You know, I think by measurements.
(04:17):
When I took that to our show in Canfield, I
was estimated to be in fourth place and ended up
being an eighth place because some other guys went heavy.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I went light.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Even though one I had down to Oakland Nursery, you
should have been was just slightly smaller. It should have
been just under twenty two hundred pounds and it went
eighteen eighty five. So yeah, I was a little frustrated.
I'm trying a few different little things this year with
I don't we don't furlize a lot, but you know,
a few different things. One of the big things that's
talking amongst some of the girls now is getting the
boron levels up in your soil and in your plants
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a little bit. You got to be very careful for borat.
You'll kill them too. But it's also your big what
do they call it the highway. It makes the highway
through the plant to get the calcium and everything. And
we know calcium helps make our pumpkins heavy if we can,
but from splitting two.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, and when you say it didn't, you know, it
weighed in light, and in course they guesstimate before they
weigh these. Uh, there's a reason for doing that. We
won't get into all that, but you know it came
in light. It came in light because of just didn't
have the meat inside it you thought was going to
be there. I mean, is that what the boilers don wasn't?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, must just not as dense.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I wish I knew if I knew what I could
do to make them go heavy. You know, Dave. When
Dave had that biggest in the world last year, it
was twenty seven thirty one that was only usked to
not only but it was estimating I think around twenty
five hundred pounds or something like that, maybe even a
little bit smaller. So he went what we call way heavy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, yeah, you know, and I was looking at that
because I according to the chart it was twenty three
to twelve that he was estimate what it was. Yeah,
and it came in a twenty seven thirty one and
a half. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Wow, So that's what that's what our ultimate goal is
to get them to go heavy like that, and I'm
trying a few things, and uh, you know, I always
pour the water to him a lot, you know. And
then even though we've out of you know, I'm sure
you guys too, And in one of our wettest springs
in a long time, I'm growing in the high tunnel,
I don't get none of that. So I'm I'm been watering.
(06:12):
But last year I was putting roughly, you know, one
hundred plus gallons a day on each plant, and uh,
but I was noticing a lot of root rot problems
towards the end of the season and that so I'm
cutting back this year to around sixty to seventy gallons
per plant. And because one of the old theories we
all have theories, is the more water you pour to them,
the heavier they're going to be when we go to
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that chart, you know, because you know water, hopefully you'll
suck that water up. But I don't think so. A
nice talking to Dave and he said he was only
putting on around sixty to seventy gallons on each plant
last year, So we're gonna I'm actually gonna cut back
on my watering a little bit this year.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Interesting talking with Jerry Rose. He is our giant pumpkin
grower world known. Everybody knows Jerry Rose and the super
nice guy. And he does sleep with his pumpkins. By
the way, when the time comes along that you're protecting him,
he grabs all the blankets and he's out there. And
it's an agreement he and missus Rose have, just like
when they go camping. Then he's got to go ten
(07:06):
miles away so you can come back and check his babies. Now,
you know, before we take a break here, you're talking
about you're growing yours now in a high tunnel versus
in an open field or an open patch. So folks
understand what is a high tunnel.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's just basically a big greenhouse thirty by one hundred
and eighty foot long, thirty foot wide. But mine all
the sides roll up six foot plus on the sides,
so like right now I can I'm standing here, I
can look at it. You know, all my sides are
open and everything. I got a shade cover over the top,
shade cover on the sides to keep it from getting
too hot. And but if it's weather's going to get
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bad or it's a really cold night, I can.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Close the sides down and there's no heat inside there,
right you Yeah, you could if you want to.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
The next thing, Yeah, I guess gotta just gotta get
out there and get a put a put a furnace
in there, especially for the spring and fall.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And the advantages of doing this obviously is that you
can get hopefully an early start and protect it from
me the colder weather.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yes, and the rain. I mean it's like as what
as we've had. And you know, my boy Jerry's got
his plants over next door and they're just they're just
swamped out because of you know, a couple of weeks
ago we had like six plus inches over a week,
you know, and even last week we had two or three.
It's this week seems like it's finally drying out a
little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hm. Wow. Talking with Jerry Rose again in the Big
Pumpkins dot com. If you want to check out the website,
it's absolutely outstanding. You actually, so folks understand this too.
You control everything from the beginning to the end, and
you including in choosing the seeds, starting the plants, choosing
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the plants, and even choosing the flowers that stay on
the plant and which ones get pollinated, and you do
that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh yeah, we hand pollinate, you know. I try to
look when I cross pollinate. I try to look for
my what cause you don't know what the plant's going
to produce at the end of the year, So I
look for traits in that plant to cross with the female.
Take the males off of one plant and and cross
the female. Like this year, one of my nicest plants
was out of Quinton Warners. What do you call him?
(09:11):
The godfather?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Godfather?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, And I took the some some piling from
his plant to most of mine because I just really
like the traits and his plant that I'm hoping to
carry on to the next generation.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And as you well, you picked usually two or three
of the males and you peel the flower off and
uh and literally literally roll them around in the female.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But your pumpk is not next to his.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You gotta walk down the paths, you gotta cut him off,
walk down the patch, and then you know, and then
when it's all said and downe you put a cool
I put a when he hot like this, I put
a little styrofoam core with three three gatorade bottles of
frozen water in there to keep it cool. You know,
it gets all steamed up in there. You got to
keep it cooled off when you're done.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Is it the pumpkin getting steamed up? I don't want
I don't want the answer. I don't want the answer
to that. One talk with Jerry Rose. He is our
giant pumpkin grower and of course big Pumpkins dot com.
If you want to learn more about all of this
and see all the records from the past and what
they're shooting for this year is take a quick break,
we come back. We'll find out more about where we
stand right now with these giant pumpkins with Jerry Rose.
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Speaker 1 (12:45):
Talking Yardning at eight hundred and eight two three eight
two five five. Our special guest this morning, mister Jerry
Rose is with us. He's our giant pumpkin grower again
Big Pumpkins dot com. If you want to check it out, Yes, sir,
I I.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Just set up my rain barrels forty five hundred gallon
tanks underneath my gutter. Is then't big enough?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I was geez, I was gonna say, I was. Actually,
that's one of my are you reading my list of
questions here today? One of my questions was, you know,
with you as much water as you have to provide
those pumpkins, you know, whether you call it actually collected water.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Into the first year, I got a fifty by seventy
five build and a thirty six by eighty build, and
plus my house, and I got all the gutters going
into a little volley been there for years, and I
just went to an auction, bought some tanks and got
them all set up. And we thing is, I set
them up just in the last week or so. We
haven't had much rain. I've been able to fill them
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up pretty much once, and I've already used all the water,
and so now I'm back to using well water. So
now now I'm atterly the point where but hopefully you
know I kind of got them. If I got the
mass frinted out and we get about a third of
an inch of rain with all my buildings all fill
them tanks up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Wow, that's unbelievable. So does this the water you're talking
about giving those on a daily basis? Does that continue
right up until you harvest to go to the to
the wayoffs now usually.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Start slowing down towards the end a little bit because
they're not absorbing months don't dry as much. And that's
what I said. I had the root rot problems last year.
And the boy Jerry is like, you know you got
actually got spots out here in your past where you
got like moss growing on the ground. Yeah, so I
think I'm a little too wet. That's why we're cutting
back a little bit this year.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Got it now? Well, you showed me some pictures last
week so I could get an idea where you were
right now. A couple questions I had when I looked
in there. Obviously, I only see a few pumpkins scattered,
and that's off for purpose because it's what one or
two pumpkins per plant.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Right one per plant. I'm down to one per plant now, yeah,
and they're growing pretty good. The oldest one is what
am I now? It's a little over two weeks old,
actually a little over twenty days old, and we're probably
about two hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That thing is two yep, geese ye.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They're growing good right now. I don't like all these
ninety degree days. It kind of burns a little bit,
but you know, eighty I always say about eighty two
to eighty three and then a sixty three degree nights
perfect temperature, and like you know, just like you guys,
I think we've had ninety three ninety four quite a
few days in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You know, I feel the air conditioner coming in that
high tunnel.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's truck to do that before. We don't have air
condition of these windows in our house. My wife will
kill me.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I don't think that would be a good idea.
Talking about Jerry Rose, he is our giant pumpkin grower.
I also noticed a couple of things. One is, obviously
there weren't a lot of other flowers going on in there,
and I sent you a picture of our volunteer again
pump pumpkin came up. That thing's of course right now,
flowering like crazy. All mostly males. Every now and then
we get the female. But do you go through a
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hand cut all those out of there.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't worry about the males, but I do take
all the females. But you know, as any cocurbent plant,
you know, you get your main vine, then we call it.
You get your secondes and anything off the secondary call tertiaries,
And so we leave the main vine and the secondaries,
and then every three or four days I go out
there and your pension between the leafs and the and
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the secondary vine to get that tertiary vine out before
it starts to grow or just it's just starting to grow.
And a lot of the time the little male flowers
coming up at the same time, so a lot of
the times it does get pinched off when it's just
starting to form there. But I'm not worried about the
males as much as making sure that all the there's
only one female on the plants, all of them will
be gone.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Do you bread those in fry those?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And I know eating punkins here, that's cannibalism.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you eat pumpkin pie? Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They my favor, but I have.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I love it. Talking with Jerry Rose our giant pumpkin
grow again Big pumpkins dot com if you want to
check it out. All right, so I got now I
got a personal question. Our pumpkin our volunteer this time
is right by the sidewalk. It was in the landscape
bed for the last couple of years. Now this one's
out by the sidewalk. I can I can do what
you were talking about. I can actually trim the end
of those vines right to keep.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It going on to it once you get yeah, yeah, yeah,
you go get a punkin set on there first.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, we got about six pumpkins on it already, so well.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You're gonna bring it into competition and give us some competition.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
These are pie pumpkins. Oh they're little. They're a little. Now,
I'm not in competition. They're little guys. But I can
trip those off so they don't go onto the sidewalk right.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Exactly, look exactly, keep them trimmed back, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We even have a contest now, and it's more for
people that don't have much room, such maybe as yourself
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They call it one.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Hundred and fifty square foot contest where your plant can
only get to be one hundred and fifty square foot.
You got to take pictures and document it and everything.
And last year, guy on one hundred and fifty square
foot plant, I can't. I'm growing. I'm growing one of them.
It's ten by fifteen. I'm leaving it ten foot wide
by fifteen foot long. But a guy last year had one.
I think it was just shy of fifteen hundred pounds
one hundred fifty square foot punkin plant.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Wow, that's unbelievable. Hey, Jerry Rose, always great talking with you.
I have so many questions. We were always running out
of time. Begain if you want to learn more about
this and get involved. It's a lot of fun. These
giant pumpkin growers are always available to help you out.
That'll answer questions for you. It's amazing. I mean new
people we meet at the way off at Oakland in
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Columbus every year that just started doing it, coming in
with three hundred and five hundred, eight hundred pound pumpkins
for Jerry, if it's just sixteen hundred pounds or less,
it's a throwaway, which just kind of boggles my mind.
And by the way, he does more than that. Last
year he came in eighteenth in the world with a
six point seven pound tomato, which is unheard of as well. Hey,
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we'll keep us posted. We'll get back with you about
a month and a half, find out where we stand
at that stage, and keep working until we get to
right before the wayoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
All right, Ron, have a good, good day, stay cool,
all right, have.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
A great weekend. Jerry Rose again our giant pumpkin grower.
You can learn more about all this at big Pumpkins
dot com and if you go on there you can
see the charting with all the different weights for the pumpkins,
for the field pumpkins. By the way, there's a difference
in the categories there. He's a major contender in the
field pumpkins, the long gorge. He does all that stuff.
(19:11):
But a six point six pound tomato, uh, seven point
seven that's pretty good sized tomato. Anyway, We'll keep posting
with Jerry as we do in the past, find out
how is the pumpkins are coming along? But I cannot
believe what I saw was only two to three weeks old.
That thing is huge already. All right, quick break, we
come back. The doctor's in town, Doctor Alan Apple Armitage. Yeah,
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hit me with us here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
How is your garden growing?
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