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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. And as I promise,
it is time for the Buggy Joe bog departments. And
Joe Bob is just a professor commercial order jujer really
honest at University Extension. Know What'sue Department of Entomology. Poster
boy for ASUE Extension, co creator of Cofra Mathra Coffee
(00:24):
Emporium with their new drink Twisted Dandelion t the website
b y g L dot O SU dot ed you
ladies and gentlemen, the one the only mister common sensical himself,
Buggy Joe Bob you knowing a good electrician?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, i'd gary there. I mean that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I think you go fix this.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, you know, have you not just found where the
extension court unplugged?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is said?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Somebody tripped over that at I mean that's happened before.
I think maybe somebody I forgot to pay the bill.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, something I don't know. It was. Everything just shut off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
These guys are in emergency power there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we're on the backup now.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Uh oh, well that's why you called me. You're on
the backup, right, Yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
They have those two huge diesel generators out back there. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Yeah, there's those big with
big diesels and then how long they can go and
just yeah, the hospitals when something like this happens, you
hardly even know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well you wouldn't know, yeh, because nothing skips a be
because there's a bad battery backup for all the radio equipment,
so that it just it doesn't skip a b Besides,
all the rest of the lights go out and you're
in total darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So yeah, I likes went out for about thirty seconds,
generator kicked in, they came back. I don't know. I
can't hear you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well in that case, Joe, just
keep talking bugging something here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I couldn't help myself, you know. Yeah, you're you're muffled, muffled,
Yeah there, you man. Not things are happening this week,
Things are underway.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I don't know if you heard then, I don't know
if you heard the news they said that the Indy
five hundred was going on on Sunday from Indianapolis at
the Indie Trace track. That makes sense, doesn't if the
Indy five Indianapolis And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It does make sense. Yeah, And like hundred where is
that at? Maybe I don't know. I think it's over
in Daytona. I think it's in dayton Kentucky. Isn't that right?
M four bridges up in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh me, anyway, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
Please step up to the plate, mister Boks.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You are not interrupting at Oh we are just we're
just using that term band, right, We're just bantering, just.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Just curious as a child growing up. And I was
telling the story earlier. It was Memorial weekend that I
accompanied my father to the local greenhouse to pick up
his tomato plants and pepper plants at a few flowers.
Not Mother's Day weekend, not the first weekend, and may
not in Mapril, but it was Memorial weekend, Memorial Saturday
(03:24):
that we went and got those.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, that's I'm really glad you said that, because
I was thinking the other day that things seem to
be sliding towards back towards winter. I'm like you, Ron,
I can tell you know, growing up, you know Mother's Day.
Now this is in West Virginia, so a little further
south but not much. But but Mother's Day, you know,
(03:49):
there were certain things blooming that we always kind of
you know, counted all, and there're just certain it was
more kind of a cleanup of the of the yard
and everything before Mother's Day and then and then yeah,
Memorial around Memorial Day was when we did really start
planting things. And so I'm glad you said that because
(04:11):
we I learned yesterday that you and I are the
same age, and I did not know that. I actually
didn't know that you were young. No, no, I thought
you were you. I even told my wife that you
were younger than me. Seriously, I really did.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Gary's a lot older than both of us. Oh man,
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Listen to this. But uh, but you know, we've been
around long enough to see some of these changes occurring.
But but I hadn't taken a note I planted tomatoes.
I was thinking much earlier. But then then in the past,
I've been doing that for a while. But you're right,
Memorial Day was a plant the garden and watch the
(04:55):
Indy five hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, no, no, we didn't watch the five and I
grew up in Greensburg, Indiana. We listened to it on
the car radio.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, that's what I was laughing about, because.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I I remember they finally started televising that thing. And
I think it was a delay too when they televised it,
if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, we had turned it back,
you know, back the car up, opened up all the
windows and the doors, had turned the car radio on
and listen to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was delayed. They went about
half the speed. Is that? What as I remember about that?
That was a very bad joke. People aren't even getting
that when they're thinking, oh my goodness, Joe must be
ill and I am.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Old and we are. But you know what's funny, Joe,
we're not as old as Gary Sullivan, and that's what counts.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He's going to come in there car back in your life.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He doesn't care. He's shaking his head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, he's laughing. I may lose my voice at
any minute. And it's just one of those weird spring
things that happened where you go from feeling fine one
day and the next day you're you ever get up
and you go testing, testing to see if.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You can talk, Yes, especially on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, well that happened to me this morning. I was like, uh,
oh this, you know, this isn't good. You know, I'm
gonna have to maybe if I just unplug the radio station,
you know, I can get by with this. Well, what's
causing that, Joe, what's causing this?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, you did not have a voice.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, I tell you it's uh it is. It's just
that time of year, you know what I mean, more
people than I thought.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That stuff that flies off of the flowers, the male flowers.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh pollen. You know, I've never been bothered by that.
I don't think that's the It's the rise and fall
of temperatures. You know, you have warm temperatures. You go
in the in the dumpster. So every spring and fall.
I kind of go through this phase, but not nearly,
you know, oaks, you.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Know, Oh my gosh. You know what's ironic though? When
Rita hiking Feld is on, she always has a frog
in her throat. Now go go figure, huh part time
witch doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm not saying that. I mean I don't need Rita
to Yeah, I mean I'll tell you we might things
make us well now you know, now you know why
the lights are out.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I could be no, yeah, just teased her. I just
teased my color that every now and then.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh I know, I know, we all know. And there
her recipes.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh my goodness when she when she used to bring
it in. I mean absolutely, yeah, yes, do that anymore?
So so oak oak trees.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I was out looking at the periodical cicadas, which
between last week and today, I mean, they really started rolling.
Okay last you know, last week there was a little bit,
but boy, I'll tell you it's they're really rolling now,
even with the cool temperatures, which is a bit surprising
all although we really are waiting for that, for temperatures
(08:25):
to rise and then we have a warm day and
then a rain and warm I mean, in other words, rainfall.
A warm rain really brings these things up. So but
you know, this past Monday, I called you as I
was driving around Mason and yeah, because it was really
(08:45):
it was. It was kind of surprising. So I did
a post. Of course, we do have a an OSUE
fact sheet on periodical cicadas that we updated and this
is you know, it's brood fourteen is big. I'm a
lot of those listening I will experience it. Not as
many though in Ohio. It's mainly the southern part of
(09:08):
the state. And that's that's important because every time we
have a periodical cicada emergency, it's it's just human nature,
you know, to think, oh, it's going to happen here,
unless you know, somebody defines it for you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh there you go. Yeah, is that electrical or cicadas?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think I think Dan's being electrocuted right now.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But I know I'm going to say, wait a minute, yeah,
let go of the wire. You can't, you can't. Oh
my goodness, can't. That's what's keeping us on the air
right now. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh well, anyway, so so
we're we're seeing the emergence where you know, so far,
(09:52):
primarily for me, it's been primarily one species, uh, Cassini,
but there are three different species that will that are emerging,
and the males are starting to sing already, although again,
these cool temperatures are probably going to slow things in uh,
and then once we start warming up. I think what
(10:12):
in August maybe is this? Does this spring seem unusually
slow to you or me?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You know what again, I reflect back to nineteen sixty
seven when my dad and I went to the five hundred.
It was so cold that day. I had a top coat,
remember the top coast I.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Don't know, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, a.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Top coat on and a sweater and a and a
shirt and pants and shoes obviously, and still froze myself.
I was freezing. I'll never forget that, as cold as
can be. So you know it has happened.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know, yeah, yeah, well you're right, yeah, it's yeah,
it's our memory. I mean you are suggesting our memories
can be flawed. I don't know about that. A little
bit that maybe, a little bit, yea, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
In fact, I forgot that we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh gee whiz. Well the lights are out, so you
don't need to.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, now I think we probably should take one. Is
it okay with you? I'm sorry, he's okay with me?
All right, Dan says it's okay with him. Quick break,
we come back. We'll finish out with Buggy Joe bugs
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time for Part
(12:46):
two with the Bugget Joe Boggs report Joe Boggs of course,
I issue extension website bygl dot OSU dot EEDU Joe,
Where did this come from? There is nothing wrong with
your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture.
We are controlling the transmission.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well it came from a don't know, wait just a
second though, that outer limits.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, I knew you'd get it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, you know it's funny because I almost I was
hitting down the path of the twilight zone.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, no, you know that?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, I I And then I veered off because
I was thinking, oh, yes, that's well, you know, I'd
love to have you. You really need to probably look
at that as a lead in to the show.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
What do you There's nothing wrong with your radio?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah? I like that. We are controlling you know, you.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Not attempted just the station. We are controlling transmission.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, anyway, the demographically there'd be a sliver of
listeners that would.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Truly get that few if they had a question sense
of humor, liked watching the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Outer Well, there you go. I mean we all did.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I never thought it was as good as aiglight zone.
But you know it was a good follow up.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It was a good fight. Yeah, you're right, it was.
It was it was. It was right in that scientific groove.
You know, that was pretty popular at that time too.
They did, but somehow the other they could just never
get them right. Yeah, they always gave him human eyes
(14:24):
and it just you know, they're just kind of jerky action,
you know, they just it was always disappointing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Gry his favorite Twilight Jones where the guy flipped the
coin in the box and it stood on end and
he could read everybody's minds.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh man, by the way, coward just came back.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So somebody paid the bill.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
There you go. Well, or it could have been you
know what we're talking about right now, they.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Were controlling the lights.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm sorry I interrupt you. So we we're on the cicadas,
and we said something about oaks and.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well the cicadas. Before I get off, I do off
that topic. I do want to make sure that I
just cicada safari. I'm just telling the listeners that we
really do need help with this, because that's an app
that is available on excuse me, all forms of phones
except maybe the radio. Yeah, and at any rate, doctor
(15:31):
gen Kritsky with Mount Saint joe'sphe University developed it with
their IT folks some time ago. And the idea is
that you can take a picture and just hit one
button after that and that picture flies out of your phone.
You can see it going through the air and it
ends up at this at a location where they can
take a look at it and log your locations so
(15:54):
that we know we get a better idea of where
this brood is emerging. Because there's only this data can
only be gathered once every seventeen years. And if you
look at older maps, if you know, you'll find that
there's some questions, you know, like for example, right, you know,
some older maps show the current brood brood fourteen that's
(16:17):
emerging in Ohio in places that we're pretty sure it
never never existed. On the other hand, there are some
big holes where we know that the cicadas will probably
be emerging, like in southeast Ohio. Right. It's really interesting
when you look at the map, you just have to well,
(16:38):
they must be there, but they were just never never reported.
So it's a great way to help science. It's a
great way to help us for the future because as
we get these maps more detailed, then we're better poised
to be able to respond when there's going to be
a brewed emergence and help people to understand what they
(16:59):
should or shouldn't do. So, while I was looking for cicadas,
I came across leaves that were just it looked like
they had missing pieces on and it was these were
oak leaves, and this has been a problem, you know,
I've talked about before they kind of went away. I
(17:21):
went back and looked at my pictures back in the
like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and some a little bit
older than that. And you know what I'm talking about
are holes that sometimes line up on either side of
the leaf. I'm not saying that quite right across the vein,
the main vein, right, So yeah, one hole on the
(17:45):
left side and it matches the hole on the right,
and that's caused by something called the oak shotthole leaf miner.
And that's a there's a lot of words there to
get to something though that doesn't even describe the holes.
It's a little fly and the female have a sharp
overpositor egg lagging device. They have lapping mouth parts so
(18:05):
they can't chew anything. So what they do is they
stick the overpositor, which is kind of like a stinger.
I hate to say it that way because then somebody
will thinking, oh, Joe's saying, you know, flies sting, and
you know he must be crazy, and then others will say, yes,
that's why, Yes, yes, it's a it's a well known fact.
(18:27):
But seriously, it is just used to jab eggs into
the into the veins of the leaves usually, but in
this case, she jabs a leaf with her ovipositor and
a little bit of sap comes out, and then she
just turns around with her lapping mouth parts and laps
up that sap. That's how she gets energy. Well, if
(18:47):
this is being done on a bud, a leaf bud,
because you know, if you cut open a leaf bud,
you'll find that the leaf is kind of furled inside,
right ron It's more of a matter of elongation. It
is cell development when leaves develop, and so that's where
she jabs in a bud. You get holes on each
(19:10):
side of the veins kind of an interesting thing. And
I've actually done that, taken a pen pi in, not
pe in, and you know, put it in a bud
and then come back and you look what the leaves
look like, and you will see matching holes. However, later on,
as those leaves are continuing to emerge, she keeps doing this,
(19:31):
you'll see these little tiny spots on the leaf and
eventually she'll lay an egg and there'll be a leafbiner.
And then all that taken together leaves there's really big
holes and tatter leaves. They really don't hurt the tree,
but can look bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
More aesthetic than anything else. So if you see it,
just an appreciated observe it, and just remember that buggy
Joe Boggs told you all about it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You have a great week, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bogs have great week. Thank you so much, sir. All right,
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page in the Garden with Ron Wilson. And as I promise,
it is time for the Buggy Joe bog departments. And
Joe Bob is just a professor commercial order jujer really
honest at University Extension. Know What'sue Department of Entomology. Poster
boy for ASUE Extension, co creator of Cofra Mathra Coffee
(00:24):
Emporium with their new drink Twisted Dandelion t the website
b y g L dot O SU dot ed you
ladies and gentlemen, the one the only mister common sensical himself,
Buggy Joe Bob you knowing a good electrician?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, i'd gary there. I mean that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I think you go fix this.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, you know, have you not just found where the
extension court unplugged?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is said?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Somebody tripped over that at I mean that's happened before.
I think maybe somebody I forgot to pay the bill.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, something I don't know. It was. Everything just shut off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
These guys are in emergency power there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we're on the backup now.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Uh oh, well that's why you called me. You're on
the backup, right, Yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
They have those two huge diesel generators out back there. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Yeah, there's those big with
big diesels and then how long they can go and
just yeah, the hospitals when something like this happens, you
hardly even know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well you wouldn't know, yeh, because nothing skips a be
because there's a bad battery backup for all the radio equipment,
so that it just it doesn't skip a b Besides,
all the rest of the lights go out and you're
in total darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So yeah, I likes went out for about thirty seconds,
generator kicked in, they came back. I don't know. I
can't hear you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well in that case, Joe, just
keep talking bugging something here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I couldn't help myself, you know. Yeah, you're you're muffled, muffled,
Yeah there, you man. Not things are happening this week,
Things are underway.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I don't know if you heard then, I don't know
if you heard the news they said that the Indy
five hundred was going on on Sunday from Indianapolis at
the Indie Trace track. That makes sense, doesn't if the
Indy five Indianapolis And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It does make sense. Yeah, And like hundred where is
that at? Maybe I don't know. I think it's over
in Daytona. I think it's in dayton Kentucky. Isn't that right?
M four bridges up in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh me, anyway, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
Please step up to the plate, mister Boks.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You are not interrupting at Oh we are just we're
just using that term band, right, We're just bantering, just.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Just curious as a child growing up. And I was
telling the story earlier. It was Memorial weekend that I
accompanied my father to the local greenhouse to pick up
his tomato plants and pepper plants at a few flowers.
Not Mother's Day weekend, not the first weekend, and may
not in Mapril, but it was Memorial weekend, Memorial Saturday
(03:24):
that we went and got those.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, that's I'm really glad you said that, because
I was thinking the other day that things seem to
be sliding towards back towards winter. I'm like you, Ron,
I can tell you know, growing up, you know Mother's Day.
Now this is in West Virginia, so a little further
south but not much. But but Mother's Day, you know,
(03:49):
there were certain things blooming that we always kind of
you know, counted all, and there're just certain it was
more kind of a cleanup of the of the yard
and everything before Mother's Day and then and then yeah,
Memorial around Memorial Day was when we did really start
planting things. And so I'm glad you said that because
(04:11):
we I learned yesterday that you and I are the
same age, and I did not know that. I actually
didn't know that you were young. No, no, I thought
you were you. I even told my wife that you
were younger than me. Seriously, I really did.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Gary's a lot older than both of us. Oh man,
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Listen to this. But uh, but you know, we've been
around long enough to see some of these changes occurring.
But but I hadn't taken a note I planted tomatoes.
I was thinking much earlier. But then then in the past,
I've been doing that for a while. But you're right,
Memorial Day was a plant the garden and watch the
(04:55):
Indy five hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, no, no, we didn't watch the five and I
grew up in Greensburg, Indiana. We listened to it on
the car radio.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, that's what I was laughing about, because.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I I remember they finally started televising that thing. And
I think it was a delay too when they televised it,
if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, we had turned it back,
you know, back the car up, opened up all the
windows and the doors, had turned the car radio on
and listen to that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was delayed. They went about
half the speed. Is that? What as I remember about that?
That was a very bad joke. People aren't even getting
that when they're thinking, oh my goodness, Joe must be
ill and I am.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Old and we are. But you know what's funny, Joe,
we're not as old as Gary Sullivan, and that's what counts.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He's going to come in there car back in your life.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He doesn't care. He's shaking his head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, he's laughing. I may lose my voice at
any minute. And it's just one of those weird spring
things that happened where you go from feeling fine one
day and the next day you're you ever get up
and you go testing, testing to see if.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You can talk, Yes, especially on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, well that happened to me this morning. I was like, uh,
oh this, you know, this isn't good. You know, I'm
gonna have to maybe if I just unplug the radio station,
you know, I can get by with this. Well, what's
causing that, Joe, what's causing this?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, you did not have a voice.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, I tell you it's uh it is. It's just
that time of year, you know what I mean, more
people than I thought.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That stuff that flies off of the flowers, the male flowers.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh pollen. You know, I've never been bothered by that.
I don't think that's the It's the rise and fall
of temperatures. You know, you have warm temperatures. You go
in the in the dumpster. So every spring and fall.
I kind of go through this phase, but not nearly,
you know, oaks, you.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Know, Oh my gosh. You know what's ironic though? When
Rita hiking Feld is on, she always has a frog
in her throat. Now go go figure, huh part time
witch doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm not saying that. I mean I don't need Rita
to Yeah, I mean I'll tell you we might things
make us well now you know, now you know why
the lights are out.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I could be no, yeah, just teased her. I just
teased my color that every now and then.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh I know, I know, we all know. And there
her recipes.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh my goodness when she when she used to bring
it in. I mean absolutely, yeah, yes, do that anymore?
So so oak oak trees.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I was out looking at the periodical cicadas, which
between last week and today, I mean, they really started rolling.
Okay last you know, last week there was a little bit,
but boy, I'll tell you it's they're really rolling now,
even with the cool temperatures, which is a bit surprising
all although we really are waiting for that, for temperatures
(08:25):
to rise and then we have a warm day and
then a rain and warm I mean, in other words, rainfall.
A warm rain really brings these things up. So but
you know, this past Monday, I called you as I
was driving around Mason and yeah, because it was really
(08:45):
it was. It was kind of surprising. So I did
a post. Of course, we do have a an OSUE
fact sheet on periodical cicadas that we updated and this
is you know, it's brood fourteen is big. I'm a
lot of those listening I will experience it. Not as
many though in Ohio. It's mainly the southern part of
(09:08):
the state. And that's that's important because every time we
have a periodical cicada emergency, it's it's just human nature,
you know, to think, oh, it's going to happen here,
unless you know, somebody defines it for you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh there you go. Yeah, is that electrical or cicadas?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think I think Dan's being electrocuted right now.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But I know I'm going to say, wait a minute, yeah,
let go of the wire. You can't, you can't. Oh
my goodness, can't. That's what's keeping us on the air
right now. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh well, anyway, so so
we're we're seeing the emergence where you know, so far,
(09:52):
primarily for me, it's been primarily one species, uh, Cassini,
but there are three different species that will that are emerging,
and the males are starting to sing already, although again,
these cool temperatures are probably going to slow things in uh,
and then once we start warming up. I think what
(10:12):
in August maybe is this? Does this spring seem unusually
slow to you or me?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You know what again, I reflect back to nineteen sixty
seven when my dad and I went to the five hundred.
It was so cold that day. I had a top coat,
remember the top coast I.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Don't know, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, a.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Top coat on and a sweater and a and a
shirt and pants and shoes obviously, and still froze myself.
I was freezing. I'll never forget that, as cold as
can be. So you know it has happened.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know, yeah, yeah, well you're right, yeah, it's yeah,
it's our memory. I mean you are suggesting our memories
can be flawed. I don't know about that. A little
bit that maybe, a little bit, yea, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
In fact, I forgot that we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh gee whiz. Well the lights are out, so you
don't need to.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, now I think we probably should take one. Is
it okay with you? I'm sorry, he's okay with me?
All right, Dan says it's okay with him. Quick break,
we come back. We'll finish out with Buggy Joe bugs
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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(12:46):
two with the Bugget Joe Boggs report Joe Boggs of course,
I issue extension website bygl dot OSU dot EEDU Joe,
Where did this come from? There is nothing wrong with
your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture.
We are controlling the transmission.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well it came from a don't know, wait just a
second though, that outer limits.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, I knew you'd get it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, you know it's funny because I almost I was
hitting down the path of the twilight zone.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, no, you know that?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, I I And then I veered off because
I was thinking, oh, yes, that's well, you know, I'd
love to have you. You really need to probably look
at that as a lead in to the show.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
What do you There's nothing wrong with your radio?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah? I like that. We are controlling you know, you.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Not attempted just the station. We are controlling transmission.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, anyway, the demographically there'd be a sliver of
listeners that would.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Truly get that few if they had a question sense
of humor, liked watching the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Outer Well, there you go. I mean we all did.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I never thought it was as good as aiglight zone.
But you know it was a good follow up.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It was a good fight. Yeah, you're right, it was.
It was it was. It was right in that scientific groove.
You know, that was pretty popular at that time too.
They did, but somehow the other they could just never
get them right. Yeah, they always gave him human eyes
(14:24):
and it just you know, they're just kind of jerky action,
you know, they just it was always disappointing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Gry his favorite Twilight Jones where the guy flipped the
coin in the box and it stood on end and
he could read everybody's minds.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh man, by the way, coward just came back.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So somebody paid the bill.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
There you go. Well, or it could have been you
know what we're talking about right now, they.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Were controlling the lights.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm sorry I interrupt you. So we we're on the cicadas,
and we said something about oaks and.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well the cicadas. Before I get off, I do off
that topic. I do want to make sure that I
just cicada safari. I'm just telling the listeners that we
really do need help with this, because that's an app
that is available on excuse me, all forms of phones
except maybe the radio. Yeah, and at any rate, doctor
(15:31):
gen Kritsky with Mount Saint joe'sphe University developed it with
their IT folks some time ago. And the idea is
that you can take a picture and just hit one
button after that and that picture flies out of your phone.
You can see it going through the air and it
ends up at this at a location where they can
take a look at it and log your locations so
(15:54):
that we know we get a better idea of where
this brood is emerging. Because there's only this data can
only be gathered once every seventeen years. And if you
look at older maps, if you know, you'll find that
there's some questions, you know, like for example, right, you know,
some older maps show the current brood brood fourteen that's
(16:17):
emerging in Ohio in places that we're pretty sure it
never never existed. On the other hand, there are some
big holes where we know that the cicadas will probably
be emerging, like in southeast Ohio. Right. It's really interesting
when you look at the map, you just have to well,
(16:38):
they must be there, but they were just never never reported.
So it's a great way to help science. It's a
great way to help us for the future because as
we get these maps more detailed, then we're better poised
to be able to respond when there's going to be
a brewed emergence and help people to understand what they
(16:59):
should or shouldn't do. So, while I was looking for cicadas,
I came across leaves that were just it looked like
they had missing pieces on and it was these were
oak leaves, and this has been a problem, you know,
I've talked about before they kind of went away. I
(17:21):
went back and looked at my pictures back in the
like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and some a little bit
older than that. And you know what I'm talking about
are holes that sometimes line up on either side of
the leaf. I'm not saying that quite right across the vein,
the main vein, right, So yeah, one hole on the
(17:45):
left side and it matches the hole on the right,
and that's caused by something called the oak shotthole leaf miner.
And that's a there's a lot of words there to
get to something though that doesn't even describe the holes.
It's a little fly and the female have a sharp
overpositor egg lagging device. They have lapping mouth parts so
(18:05):
they can't chew anything. So what they do is they
stick the overpositor, which is kind of like a stinger.
I hate to say it that way because then somebody
will thinking, oh, Joe's saying, you know, flies sting, and
you know he must be crazy, and then others will say, yes,
that's why, Yes, yes, it's a it's a well known fact.
(18:27):
But seriously, it is just used to jab eggs into
the into the veins of the leaves usually, but in
this case, she jabs a leaf with her ovipositor and
a little bit of sap comes out, and then she
just turns around with her lapping mouth parts and laps
up that sap. That's how she gets energy. Well, if
(18:47):
this is being done on a bud, a leaf bud,
because you know, if you cut open a leaf bud,
you'll find that the leaf is kind of furled inside,
right ron It's more of a matter of elongation. It
is cell development when leaves develop, and so that's where
she jabs in a bud. You get holes on each
(19:10):
side of the veins kind of an interesting thing. And
I've actually done that, taken a pen pi in, not
pe in, and you know, put it in a bud
and then come back and you look what the leaves
look like, and you will see matching holes. However, later on,
as those leaves are continuing to emerge, she keeps doing this,
(19:31):
you'll see these little tiny spots on the leaf and
eventually she'll lay an egg and there'll be a leafbiner.
And then all that taken together leaves there's really big
holes and tatter leaves. They really don't hurt the tree,
but can look bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
More aesthetic than anything else. So if you see it,
just an appreciated observe it, and just remember that buggy
Joe Boggs told you all about it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You have a great week, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bogs have great week. Thank you so much, sir. All right,
bye bye, Thanks all of our callers, Thanks to our sponsors,
Thanks of course to Danny Gleish and our producer, because
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thank you so much for all you do. Now do
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(20:22):
of this Memorial a day on Monday, so let's get
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