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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
it's time for the fucking Joe Bob and Joe Bobs
and says a professor commercial order. Shoot there near a
house State University extens you know, shoot a part of it.
That wasn't me, post a boy for OSU Extension. Co
creator of Matha Coffee and Korea where every cup of
(00:22):
Bunky Joe as boldest King of Door yet's smooth as
math or Silky Wings Ladies and Gentlemen's website byg L
dot ou dot edu. Mister Commonsensey called himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Bugg I lied. That was me. I couldn't help it.
It was you. It was me. I mean, it's like
a race starting. I'll tell you somebody needs they need
to have a starter pistol to go off, and then
you just start.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So instead of instead of introducing, you just shoot off
a pit starter pistol.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and then no, no, no, I don't think that
at that's that's a good point. They could to some
terrible misunderstanding. Yeah, definitely, speaking of miss I don't have
a good segue. I had one there for a second,
(01:18):
but it went away. It's not age related, right, So
that's when I'm claiming forever.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So yeah, yeah, keep claiming it please. By the way, I'll.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Keep claiming it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know where, I don't know where you were
at it, but I had several emails this week saying
that Buggy Joe I always learned something from Buggy Joe,
sending pictures of their ant lions there you go, had
no idea what those were until you talked about them
last week. And then they saw the posting and they go,
(01:48):
now we know what those little cones things are by
the underneath the overhang them by the front door or wherever.
And they were sending pictures and said that Buggy Joe,
I tell you what he's something else.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh well, yeah, you know it is interesting. And now
you have you have your own private stock there. Well yeah,
I know, next to your Yeah. But here's well, here's
the here's the question. And this is have you noticed
over the years. I think we've talked about this before. Yeah,
one year, you see a lot and then they and
(02:22):
then you don't see them for a while, and then
you see a lot. I mean they rise and fall
from year to year, two years.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That could be a book a fifty page book, The
Rise and Fall of the ant Lion.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's it. That's exactly right. You know, maybe they were
attacked from the north. Who knows, right, Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, they No, I won't to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But I seem to have them every year we have
lucked out and find I find one or two somewhere
in some years. They're more than others.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, but I was.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To them because we have this big overhang and it's
dry underneath there, and they love it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's just perfect. It's perfect. Yeah, we have an overhang.
It's actually, of course, we have a gas fireplace, you know,
which isn't really a fireplace. It's just a fire, but
you know, the overhang for that. They started showing up
a few years ago and that's been pretty consistent. But
I have noticed though, and they do take two to
(03:19):
three years. This is something that I didn't know until
last year. They don't they just they don't have just
one generation per year. They take two or three years
to complete their development. So I've been speculating that maybe
this rise and fall has to do with Okay, some
years you have fewer completing development compared to other years
(03:42):
and we might just be in a high point year
because like you, I was very surprised at how many
people emailed that they that they were seeing them, They
had seen them, but they didn't know what they were
exactly past years. There's a Sharon. Sharon Woods Park has
(04:06):
always been my go to place for Alliance in their
main parking lot, you know where they have the little
village there. Yeah, those dry areas under the bigger trees.
It's just perfect, which at the other place you'll find,
even in my experience, if it's not overhanging from a
(04:26):
building or even up next to the foundation, let's stay
on the side of the house where you know, just
because of the direction of winds and so forth, they
don't get hammered. But around big trees, that little dry
area that's often found around very large trees. And at Sharonville,
that's what you see, you know, year to year, two years.
(04:47):
Sometimes I go over there and it's just well, like you,
you know, it's kind of hard to find. It's not
that there's zero, but just hard to find. But I think,
and of course no one's really keeping count. I'm not
keeping count, but it must be that we're we are
just seeing a lot more this year because as I said,
you know, I was very surprised and a nice learning
(05:07):
experience for for folks. And I'll tell you the other
one that has surprised me is are the stiletto brandishing
boogie woogie aphans.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That you've seen more and more it seems that way.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, I got you know, most definitely when I posted
that that big alert just boom. You know that's the
sound when I get email. I have a set up
that way. It's not a starter pistol but here just
a little bit of an explosion. But yeah, oh my gosh,
you took me back, you know, Terry bombs. Oh you know,
(05:48):
I'll tell you demographically, I'm sure we lost part of
the audience right there, because what do you mean M eighty?
What's he talking about there? I don't know how long
those You can't buy those anymore, can you? I mean,
you're ago.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, I'm pretty sure I could be wrong. Somebody needs
to know type in below the line here right. No, wait,
we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But we don't know if you were going to talk
more about that boogie woogie ephed But I got I
got an interesting one I don't see very often. A
picture this this week, and I didn't send it to you,
but it was interesting. Lady had a mass planning of
barbary leaves to fall going away and start scratching around
(06:34):
in the mulch below it, and all these little loopers
inchworms were underneath it. Black white stripe down the side
of spots barbary looper.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you know that's on my bucket list? I'm serious.
I have not ever gotten a.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Picture of those, she she said, you know, she she
kept trying to figure out what was eating the leaves
off of barbary. Yeah, got underneath them and starts kind
of scratching the mault away, and there was like four
or five of them right there at the base of
one of the plants. And so she emailed me, he said,
you know what these things are because I'm losing all
the leaves, And so I said, yeah, you know, and
(07:13):
I think correct me if I'm wrong. In our area?
Can we get a couple of generations of those?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We can? It's all it's it's kind of almost continuous.
But you know, you don't see barbaries nearly as much
as I think we once did. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
About that or people use them like they used to.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and so I guess that's probably part of it.
I mean, there is Yeah, they're not all barbaries the same,
and we need to always say this. And yes, there
are some that may be able to kind of crawl
away with their looper, right, but but I don't know.
And maybe also people are tired when they have to
(07:53):
do a little pruning. You can't prune a barbary without
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Getting stuck at least once.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
At least least once. I mean I generally, you know,
when I used to the landscape, I used to manage,
we had barbaries for security reasons. Actually that's that's something
that that that another point to barbarys that we tend
to forget. But anyway, I used to, uh just kind
of grab them real fast before I prune them. So
I knew when I was getting pickled, right, you know,
(08:21):
I knew when I that makes sense, I just get
it over with.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Hit your hand with a hammer, Yeah, exactly, Harry that Yeah.
Gary Sulivan's always recommended that if you're building a deck
or something, hit your thumb first with a hammer. Get
it out of the way, get it out of the
way and then on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Because you know it's coming otherwise you know, you're uh
but uh, but but I I've always been very interested
in this Barbary looper because, like you said, there are
multiple generations, plus it's kind of an interesting thing, and
that it moves around on the plant quite a lot.
You know, most of these general defoliators, well actually barbaria loopers,
(09:01):
not general thefoliator. It goes after Barbary, but you know,
they mostly stay put somewhere in the foliage. But these
things are very mobile, and it's one reason I love
the description. You know, she said the leaves are just disappearing. Yeah, well,
you know, they move around quite a bit, but I
have never gotten a picture one and hmail.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Her on Monday and see if she'll let you come over.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, there you go, and then I'll just grab hold
of one. No wait, I'm not going to be pruning them.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I was there, but I still I guess I learned
also because I was looking to see how many generations
they had. But they also like Mahonia, which you don't
see Mahonia much in our area anymore either.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know. That's that, Yeah, that's exactly right. That's I mean,
I'm just I'm sitting here just kind of amazed at
all these plants that are coming gone, which is a
great segue for where I was yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But you can't but you leave it hanging because you've
got to take a break.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I am where it was.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Bucky Joe yesterday. It's like where was Waldo? Where was
Buggy Joe. We're gonna find out after the break. Here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back here in the You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson, a personal yard boy, talking with Part two.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The bu.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Where was Buggy Joe Boggs yesterday? Only Joe knows well.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I was at a location that that had a
very interesting program on fantastic people. Uh, they got desperate
and had to have a speaker towards the end, and
that's why I was there. The International Plant Producers Society
meeting in Louisville, Louisville, Louisville at Louisville loll Down, Louisville.
(12:13):
You know it was it was a very interesting group.
But I have to say, you know, for folks that
are very interested in plants. That that is just an
excellent group, uh to be aware of, first of all,
because it was sharing of information about plants, plant selection,
new plants, so International Plant Propagators Society. And and I
(12:37):
also ran across Matt Bartlett.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Down there, right, Matthew, Yes, yes, And I have to.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Say, Ron, the most interesting thing. He and Jordan Hole Camp,
you know, you know Jordan Air Jordan with E h
R and Fort White Kentucky. So so Matt, you know,
with you and Natorp's and they were showing an aerial
view of this very large nursery. And and I turned
(13:06):
to the person sitting next to me and said, well,
where is that? And she said, well, that's that's Nator.
It was an aerial view. And you know, that's just
something that we typically don't see, right, except you couldn't
see it with Google Earth and so forth or Google
Maps you could look down on things. But I was
(13:26):
very surprised. Ron. You and I've talked about this before,
the growth of the nursery production there. It's astounding, isn't it.
I mean, yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
What can I say? Proud? You know.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Very that stuff well a very small part and I
think it reflects I have to say it reflects the
industry in general. There there's a there's there's there's something
where I'm heading to here, and that is I think listeners,
you know, just need to maybe get a glimpse, get
a snapshot of this industry behind all these plants that
they go by, they go purchase the garden centers that
(14:03):
it actually kind of doesn't matter where they buy, and
there are groups of professionals behind those plants. So spend
a lot of time, you know, discussing the pluses and
minuses supporting research. Teresa Colly, doctor Teresa Collegy from University
of Cincinnati, gave a talk in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Let me get on boxwood.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
On boxwood and boxwoods that are clearly resistant to box
tree made. I mean just tremendously now what she's doing,
and this was funded by the industry. It's actually funded
by a grant that's called the Horticultural Research Institute grants HRI.
(14:45):
And she's using genetics. She's taking basically snapshots of pieces
of the DNA of boxwoods so that she can learn, Okay,
is this boxwood what we used to call winter green
or what we still call winter green, or is this
boxwood winter gym? You see where I'm heading. We have
these names, but as you and I have discussed before,
(15:09):
you know, names are great. We want people to recognize.
I mean the same with cars, we want people to
know a Chevy from a Ford. Right. However, as you
know with plants, the downside is, you know, well over
the years, you know, plants change, there's new breeding to plant,
you know, produce new plants, and sometimes the names sort
(15:31):
of get a little bit lost in connection to the
original plant. Maybe it was called something in nineteen fifty
and then now it's you know, there's a slight change,
but maybe it's still closely related to that boxwood in
nineteen fifty. You see where I'm heading. It's just that.
But genetics do not lie, Genetics don't change. And so
(15:52):
what she did, what she has done, is she went around.
Because we're seeing and this is a very important point
relative to boxwoods in their future. Clearly, you know, we
are seeing boxwoods that are basically remaining almost untouched. Now,
they're never going to be completely untouched because box tree
moth only has one host, and that's boxwoods. So even
(16:15):
the most resistant ones will get fed upon but you
wouldn't even notice it. I mean, we're seeing that over
in Loveland, Ohio, where there's a hotspot, you just don't
even notice the damage. So she has evaluated to determine
the genetics of those boxwoods that are the most resistant
found so far, and then those are the least resistant,
and then started putting memes to these. And it was
(16:39):
a fantastic presentation yesterday, well received by the industry because
it's demonstrating two things. Number one, and you've been at
this a long time like myself, and you know, taking
that route which has long been used for corn and soybeans,
and we have talked about this before. This is really
(17:02):
kind of a new scientific approach. So it was just
very interesting hearing that. And then you know, I came
along and kind of you know, confused everybody for a
little bit and then almost ran away. Stayed long enough
a little bit, yes, but then I stayed long enough
to hear, you know, an overview of new plants and
(17:25):
it was just kind of remarkable. And I guess I'm
just getting a little carried away because I just want
people to know that this industry, first of all, it
continues to grow, and that's no pun. Well, I guess
it is a literal fun and that's why the pictures
of Nathorps because you know, I've known you for many years.
(17:45):
I've known the nursery for many years, and it's just
great to see this expansion for thriving just continue to
be very healthy. And it's not the only nursery going
that route, right, I mean, there are other nerves, trees,
other production that's schooling, go guns. I think it's as
good for people to know that these times, because fall
(18:07):
is for planting, right, there's a lot that we want
people to do, and to know that behind those plants
being selected, there's a lot of thought, a lot of science,
and quite a bit of let's just be perfectly experience.
And so here we were talking about barberries and then mahoney,
(18:29):
you know, mahony, I would say, mahoney, mahonia malonia. I
didn't know that county was named after that plant. I'm sorry,
that was malonia. Those are plants that we grew up with,
didn't we. I mean, you know, and now they're less favored,
but that happens also. But it just is important to
(18:52):
know that there's a lot of thought that goes into this,
and that's why when you do go in, like to
your local garden center to you know, well, I have
this place over here, what should I use. Ah, there's
a lot of good a lot of good experience, and
like I said, now more and more science going into
those selections. You know, you like that.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I liked it. I always great, you know, but I
always think back, and I bring this up every now
and then, especially in the spring. When I first started
in high school with a garden center, what the perennial
selection was back then? You know, it was hostas and
day lilies and a few black guyed Susans and maybe
a pony here and there, and that was about it.
Now look at it today. I mean, you can't keep
(19:31):
up a nursery stock the same way annuals. It's crazy,
but it's a it's a great industry and we're glad
that you are a part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Sir Maul, Thank you, sir, and go buck, go bock.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's it. Talk to you next Saturday. Thank care, blah blah,
all right, thank you, bugging Joe Boggs, Thanks all of
our colors, our sponsors, Thanks of course of Danny Glees
and our producer because Without Danny Gleeson, none of this
stuff would happen. So Daniel, thank you so much for
all that you do. Now do yourself a favor. Plenty
of time to get out and plant that tree or
two or three. Keep plant for those pollinators, plant those
(20:05):
native selections. Get out there and do that. Pamper your worms,
get the kids and dogs of aall with gardening, and
by all means, make it the best weekend of your life.
See you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Not gardening questions.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Ron has the answers at one eight hundred eighty two
three Talk You are in the Garden with Ron Wilson
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
it's time for the fucking Joe Bob and Joe Bobs
and says a professor commercial order. Shoot there near a
house State University extens you know, shoot a part of it.
That wasn't me, post a boy for OSU Extension. Co
creator of Matha Coffee and Korea where every cup of
(00:22):
Bunky Joe as boldest King of Door yet's smooth as
math or Silky Wings Ladies and Gentlemen's website byg L
dot ou dot edu. Mister Commonsensey called himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Bugg I lied. That was me. I couldn't help it.
It was you. It was me. I mean, it's like
a race starting. I'll tell you somebody needs they need
to have a starter pistol to go off, and then
you just start.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So instead of instead of introducing, you just shoot off
a pit starter pistol.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and then no, no, no, I don't think that
at that's that's a good point. They could to some
terrible misunderstanding. Yeah, definitely, speaking of miss I don't have
a good segue. I had one there for a second,
(01:18):
but it went away. It's not age related, right, So
that's when I'm claiming forever.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So yeah, yeah, keep claiming it please. By the way, I'll.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Keep claiming it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know where, I don't know where you were
at it, but I had several emails this week saying
that Buggy Joe I always learned something from Buggy Joe,
sending pictures of their ant lions there you go, had
no idea what those were until you talked about them
last week. And then they saw the posting and they go,
(01:48):
now we know what those little cones things are by
the underneath the overhang them by the front door or wherever.
And they were sending pictures and said that Buggy Joe,
I tell you what he's something else.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh well, yeah, you know it is interesting. And now
you have you have your own private stock there. Well yeah,
I know, next to your Yeah. But here's well, here's
the here's the question. And this is have you noticed
over the years. I think we've talked about this before. Yeah,
one year, you see a lot and then they and
(02:22):
then you don't see them for a while, and then
you see a lot. I mean they rise and fall
from year to year, two years.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That could be a book a fifty page book, The
Rise and Fall of the ant Lion.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's it. That's exactly right. You know, maybe they were
attacked from the north. Who knows, right, Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, they No, I won't to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But I seem to have them every year we have
lucked out and find I find one or two somewhere
in some years. They're more than others.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, but I was.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To them because we have this big overhang and it's
dry underneath there, and they love it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's just perfect. It's perfect. Yeah, we have an overhang.
It's actually, of course, we have a gas fireplace, you know,
which isn't really a fireplace. It's just a fire, but
you know, the overhang for that. They started showing up
a few years ago and that's been pretty consistent. But
I have noticed though, and they do take two to
(03:19):
three years. This is something that I didn't know until
last year. They don't they just they don't have just
one generation per year. They take two or three years
to complete their development. So I've been speculating that maybe
this rise and fall has to do with Okay, some
years you have fewer completing development compared to other years
(03:42):
and we might just be in a high point year
because like you, I was very surprised at how many
people emailed that they that they were seeing them, They
had seen them, but they didn't know what they were
exactly past years. There's a Sharon. Sharon Woods Park has
(04:06):
always been my go to place for Alliance in their
main parking lot, you know where they have the little
village there. Yeah, those dry areas under the bigger trees.
It's just perfect, which at the other place you'll find,
even in my experience, if it's not overhanging from a
(04:26):
building or even up next to the foundation, let's stay
on the side of the house where you know, just
because of the direction of winds and so forth, they
don't get hammered. But around big trees, that little dry
area that's often found around very large trees. And at Sharonville,
that's what you see, you know, year to year, two years.
(04:47):
Sometimes I go over there and it's just well, like you,
you know, it's kind of hard to find. It's not
that there's zero, but just hard to find. But I think,
and of course no one's really keeping count. I'm not
keeping count, but it must be that we're we are
just seeing a lot more this year because as I said,
you know, I was very surprised and a nice learning
(05:07):
experience for for folks. And I'll tell you the other
one that has surprised me is are the stiletto brandishing
boogie woogie aphans.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That you've seen more and more it seems that way.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, I got you know, most definitely when I posted
that that big alert just boom. You know that's the
sound when I get email. I have a set up
that way. It's not a starter pistol but here just
a little bit of an explosion. But yeah, oh my gosh,
you took me back, you know, Terry bombs. Oh you know,
(05:48):
I'll tell you demographically, I'm sure we lost part of
the audience right there, because what do you mean M eighty?
What's he talking about there? I don't know how long
those You can't buy those anymore, can you? I mean,
you're ago.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, I'm pretty sure I could be wrong. Somebody needs
to know type in below the line here right. No, wait,
we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But we don't know if you were going to talk
more about that boogie woogie ephed But I got I
got an interesting one I don't see very often. A
picture this this week, and I didn't send it to you,
but it was interesting. Lady had a mass planning of
barbary leaves to fall going away and start scratching around
(06:34):
in the mulch below it, and all these little loopers
inchworms were underneath it. Black white stripe down the side
of spots barbary looper.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you know that's on my bucket list? I'm serious.
I have not ever gotten a.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Picture of those, she she said, you know, she she
kept trying to figure out what was eating the leaves
off of barbary. Yeah, got underneath them and starts kind
of scratching the mault away, and there was like four
or five of them right there at the base of
one of the plants. And so she emailed me, he said,
you know what these things are because I'm losing all
the leaves, And so I said, yeah, you know, and
(07:13):
I think correct me if I'm wrong. In our area?
Can we get a couple of generations of those?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We can? It's all it's it's kind of almost continuous.
But you know, you don't see barbaries nearly as much
as I think we once did. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
About that or people use them like they used to.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and so I guess that's probably part of it.
I mean, there is Yeah, they're not all barbaries the same,
and we need to always say this. And yes, there
are some that may be able to kind of crawl
away with their looper, right, but but I don't know.
And maybe also people are tired when they have to
(07:53):
do a little pruning. You can't prune a barbary without
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Getting stuck at least once.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
At least least once. I mean I generally, you know,
when I used to the landscape, I used to manage,
we had barbaries for security reasons. Actually that's that's something
that that that another point to barbarys that we tend
to forget. But anyway, I used to, uh just kind
of grab them real fast before I prune them. So
I knew when I was getting pickled, right, you know,
(08:21):
I knew when I that makes sense, I just get
it over with.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Hit your hand with a hammer, Yeah, exactly, Harry that Yeah.
Gary Sulivan's always recommended that if you're building a deck
or something, hit your thumb first with a hammer. Get
it out of the way, get it out of the
way and then on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Because you know it's coming otherwise you know, you're uh
but uh, but but I I've always been very interested
in this Barbary looper because, like you said, there are
multiple generations, plus it's kind of an interesting thing, and
that it moves around on the plant quite a lot.
You know, most of these general defoliators, well actually barbaria loopers,
(09:01):
not general thefoliator. It goes after Barbary, but you know,
they mostly stay put somewhere in the foliage. But these
things are very mobile, and it's one reason I love
the description. You know, she said the leaves are just disappearing. Yeah, well,
you know, they move around quite a bit, but I
have never gotten a picture one and hmail.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Her on Monday and see if she'll let you come over.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, there you go, and then I'll just grab hold
of one. No wait, I'm not going to be pruning them.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I was there, but I still I guess I learned
also because I was looking to see how many generations
they had. But they also like Mahonia, which you don't
see Mahonia much in our area anymore either.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know. That's that, Yeah, that's exactly right. That's I mean,
I'm just I'm sitting here just kind of amazed at
all these plants that are coming gone, which is a
great segue for where I was yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But you can't but you leave it hanging because you've
got to take a break.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I am where it was.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Bucky Joe yesterday. It's like where was Waldo? Where was
Buggy Joe. We're gonna find out after the break. Here
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Welcome back here in the You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson, a personal yard boy, talking with Part two.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
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Speaker 1 (11:43):
Where was Buggy Joe Boggs yesterday? Only Joe knows well.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I was at a location that that had a
very interesting program on fantastic people. Uh, they got desperate
and had to have a speaker towards the end, and
that's why I was there. The International Plant Producers Society
meeting in Louisville, Louisville, Louisville at Louisville loll Down, Louisville.
(12:13):
You know it was it was a very interesting group.
But I have to say, you know, for folks that
are very interested in plants. That that is just an
excellent group, uh to be aware of, first of all,
because it was sharing of information about plants, plant selection,
new plants, so International Plant Propagators Society. And and I
(12:37):
also ran across Matt Bartlett.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Down there, right, Matthew, Yes, yes, And I have to.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Say, Ron, the most interesting thing. He and Jordan Hole Camp,
you know, you know Jordan Air Jordan with E h
R and Fort White Kentucky. So so Matt, you know,
with you and Natorp's and they were showing an aerial
view of this very large nursery. And and I turned
(13:06):
to the person sitting next to me and said, well,
where is that? And she said, well, that's that's Nator.
It was an aerial view. And you know, that's just
something that we typically don't see, right, except you couldn't
see it with Google Earth and so forth or Google
Maps you could look down on things. But I was
(13:26):
very surprised. Ron. You and I've talked about this before,
the growth of the nursery production there. It's astounding, isn't it.
I mean, yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
What can I say? Proud? You know.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Very that stuff well a very small part and I
think it reflects I have to say it reflects the
industry in general. There there's a there's there's there's something
where I'm heading to here, and that is I think listeners,
you know, just need to maybe get a glimpse, get
a snapshot of this industry behind all these plants that
they go by, they go purchase the garden centers that
(14:03):
it actually kind of doesn't matter where they buy, and
there are groups of professionals behind those plants. So spend
a lot of time, you know, discussing the pluses and
minuses supporting research. Teresa Colly, doctor Teresa Collegy from University
of Cincinnati, gave a talk in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Let me get on boxwood.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
On boxwood and boxwoods that are clearly resistant to box
tree made. I mean just tremendously now what she's doing,
and this was funded by the industry. It's actually funded
by a grant that's called the Horticultural Research Institute grants HRI.
(14:45):
And she's using genetics. She's taking basically snapshots of pieces
of the DNA of boxwoods so that she can learn, Okay,
is this boxwood what we used to call winter green
or what we still call winter green, or is this
boxwood winter gym? You see where I'm heading. We have
these names, but as you and I have discussed before,
(15:09):
you know, names are great. We want people to recognize.
I mean the same with cars, we want people to
know a Chevy from a Ford. Right. However, as you
know with plants, the downside is, you know, well over
the years, you know, plants change, there's new breeding to plant,
you know, produce new plants, and sometimes the names sort
(15:31):
of get a little bit lost in connection to the
original plant. Maybe it was called something in nineteen fifty
and then now it's you know, there's a slight change,
but maybe it's still closely related to that boxwood in
nineteen fifty. You see where I'm heading. It's just that.
But genetics do not lie, Genetics don't change. And so
(15:52):
what she did, what she has done, is she went around.
Because we're seeing and this is a very important point
relative to boxwoods in their future. Clearly, you know, we
are seeing boxwoods that are basically remaining almost untouched. Now,
they're never going to be completely untouched because box tree
moth only has one host, and that's boxwoods. So even
(16:15):
the most resistant ones will get fed upon but you
wouldn't even notice it. I mean, we're seeing that over
in Loveland, Ohio, where there's a hotspot, you just don't
even notice the damage. So she has evaluated to determine
the genetics of those boxwoods that are the most resistant
found so far, and then those are the least resistant,
and then started putting memes to these. And it was
(16:39):
a fantastic presentation yesterday, well received by the industry because
it's demonstrating two things. Number one, and you've been at
this a long time like myself, and you know, taking
that route which has long been used for corn and soybeans,
and we have talked about this before. This is really
(17:02):
kind of a new scientific approach. So it was just
very interesting hearing that. And then you know, I came
along and kind of you know, confused everybody for a
little bit and then almost ran away. Stayed long enough
a little bit, yes, but then I stayed long enough
to hear, you know, an overview of new plants and
(17:25):
it was just kind of remarkable. And I guess I'm
just getting a little carried away because I just want
people to know that this industry, first of all, it
continues to grow, and that's no pun. Well, I guess
it is a literal fun and that's why the pictures
of Nathorps because you know, I've known you for many years.
(17:45):
I've known the nursery for many years, and it's just
great to see this expansion for thriving just continue to
be very healthy. And it's not the only nursery going
that route, right, I mean, there are other nerves, trees,
other production that's schooling, go guns. I think it's as
good for people to know that these times, because fall
(18:07):
is for planting, right, there's a lot that we want
people to do, and to know that behind those plants
being selected, there's a lot of thought, a lot of science,
and quite a bit of let's just be perfectly experience.
And so here we were talking about barberries and then mahoney,
(18:29):
you know, mahony, I would say, mahoney, mahonia malonia. I
didn't know that county was named after that plant. I'm sorry,
that was malonia. Those are plants that we grew up with,
didn't we. I mean, you know, and now they're less favored,
but that happens also. But it just is important to
(18:52):
know that there's a lot of thought that goes into this,
and that's why when you do go in, like to
your local garden center to you know, well, I have
this place over here, what should I use. Ah, there's
a lot of good a lot of good experience, and
like I said, now more and more science going into
those selections. You know, you like that.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I liked it. I always great, you know, but I
always think back, and I bring this up every now
and then, especially in the spring. When I first started
in high school with a garden center, what the perennial
selection was back then? You know, it was hostas and
day lilies and a few black guyed Susans and maybe
a pony here and there, and that was about it.
Now look at it today. I mean, you can't keep
(19:31):
up a nursery stock the same way annuals. It's crazy,
but it's a it's a great industry and we're glad
that you are a part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Sir Maul, Thank you, sir, and go buck, go bock.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's it. Talk to you next Saturday. Thank care, blah blah,
all right, thank you, bugging Joe Boggs, Thanks all of
our colors, our sponsors, Thanks of course of Danny Glees
and our producer because Without Danny Gleeson, none of this
stuff would happen. So Daniel, thank you so much for
all that you do. Now do yourself a favor. Plenty
of time to get out and plant that tree or
two or three. Keep plant for those pollinators, plant those
(20:05):
native selections. Get out there and do that. Pamper your worms,
get the kids and dogs of aall with gardening, and
by all means, make it the best weekend of your life.
See you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Not gardening questions.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
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