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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson, that
we're back on track and it's time for as I promised,
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dot ou dot eed U, mister common sensical himself. All right, Fucky,
I thought of you yesterday. I thought of you yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You did you did well? Wait a second before you
came on. You're doing the weather and how he said,
cloudy chili several times. That doesn't sound right, cloudy chilly chili.
Last time I had that, it wasn't very good.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You don't like cloudy chili. Couldn't help it chili today?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
All right, you thought of me yesterday. I'm sorry you interrupted.
I took us off in a in the wrong direction
as normal.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
A friend of mine others came to visit her and
I just happened to be there at the time. Sarah Varnum,
and she she was raised back in the early nineteen
hundreds like my mom, and she was raised out in
the way out in the middle of nowhere in the
swamps in Florida, and my mom, of course been raised
in the holler in West Virginia. Yeah, and they were

(01:19):
comparing notes as the kids growing up. They're about the
same age. My mom's a little bit older probably, but
comparing and it's just, you know, the things they were
talking about, things they did as kids, you know, and
walking in all that stuff, and the stories I could
just have sat there because she was remembering things that
they I just how do you remember all that stuff?

(01:40):
But they would write poems and stuff, and you know,
each of them write and they all would say them
every night. So she said, well, we set them all
the time because that's how we entertained each other, and
you know, stuff like that. And I could have sat
there and listened to those ladies talk about those stories
for hours and the things the kids. But you know,
one thing that got me, and of course my mom
talking about West Virginia and you being from West Virginia

(02:02):
and growing up in the head of a holler that
you actually go over creeks and stuff to get to
their house.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, but they were talking about Christmas and you know,
you were if we sometimes got an apple or an
orange and a banana or something like that. And Sarah
said she remembers getting her first gift. One of her
older sisters had moved out, got a job, do whatever,
came back and gave her her first Christmas actual gift
and it was wrapped and it was the first gift
she had ever gotten and seen that was wrapped in

(02:32):
Christmas paper.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's amazing and you're like, wow, yeah, yeah it was,
you know that that Now we need to look into
that for next. I mean, and we had our first frost,
our first frost, and you know what that means where
you know, cupation is not far off r. But before
that happens, we need to look into some of this

(02:54):
history that we talk about on here, like wrapping paper.
You know, that's really interesting that you brought that up,
because my grandparents didn't grow up with wrapping paper at all, right,
you know it just you didn't go buy paper to
and it was in fact, I remember, you know, my
grandfather still kind of like it was, you know, like

(03:15):
like a waste of money. You know, you you buy paper,
you know, to wrap a gift that you bought and
then to tear off and throw away, you know, and
and so it's kind of one of those things. Well,
you know, when did that really become It's probably something
that someone was going to say one of the listeners.
Oh yeah, it goes back to you know, the Neanderthals.

(03:38):
You know they rode on the cave. You know they
had bones wrapped or something. I mean, you know, maybe
something that goes back forever. But when did it become
a common practice? Is where I'm heading, particularly in the US,
because because you're right, I remember that, you know, it's
it's I'll say something else to it. It was occurring
to me when you were talking about glamping, and I

(04:01):
was thinking, I was thinking, you know, I thought I
was glamping when I when I got a tent. I mean,
I mean, I'm actually in a little hell, you know,
because I used to well, you know, I've told you

(04:22):
these stories. You know, when I would hunt, it was
i'd often stay out overnight and and of course I
didn't have I just I had space blankets. Do you
remember those? Now. I had one that had put on
the ground. I had one that you know, I would
be under. And then when I was backpacking in the
eastern part of the States. Seriously, I know the tents

(04:44):
were too heavy, you know they didn't Yeah, that's right, Yeah,
I mean I couldn't afford a horse and wagon, so
you know, I just had to walk with what I had.
And and so when they came out, you know, with
a a reasonably cheap let's start there. You know, something

(05:04):
I could afford in college tent that I could I
could carry you know, with my battle my backpack frame.
Now that was that was glamping, I mean seriously, because
I was out under you know, under the stars is
not bad until it until it rains, or maybe you
kind of get a little tired, you know, waking up
covered and do you know, I mean yeah, and when

(05:28):
it got colder, you know, well you could mean you
know frosty. Oh yeah, of course you got.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
That when you slept up with my grandparents' attic.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
On top of you and you just you know, knock
the snow off of you to get up to go
back downstairs.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, I'll tell you. In petscaping, and we got to
we my wife and I were talking about something about
pet scaping that that I sort of forgot about. But
it is something that I've brought up that it involves.
You know, one of my favorite trees is bald cypress. Right,
It's just it's I really do like and of course

(06:07):
you know they'll they'll be we did, we did run,
but you know, we also had a Yorkshire Terrier, our
little Yorkie. And what we did not know and what
I later learned, and this is something I've heard master
gardeners say when I brought up bald cypress and brought
up this story. You know, if you have a small dog,

(06:29):
if you have a dog with a lot of hair,
when when when bald cypress, you know, starts dropping, it's
it's foliage, it dries out and becomes almost like like
a it almost becomes like it has little hooks. He
would come back in dragging like half the tree, poor thing,
and we had to try to pull And I'll tell

(06:51):
you what surprised me is trying to pull those out
of his fur. I mean it's like, I mean, bald
cypress followed is very soft, you know, it's very pliable.
But once once it dries, you know, well that's a
whole different story. So and over the years, I've now
had others who who've experienced the same thing, even with

(07:13):
some fairly large dogs where they'll lay down, you know,
and then they'll get up and and and then bring
the tree back in and it's it is. It just
was a total shock and surprise when it started happening,
and it made us realize, well, man, you know, maybe
that's not the best tree to have if you have,

(07:36):
you know, dogs in your backyard. They just need to
consider that, because it really I mean, I'm not exaggerating,
and I'm sure folks down south, where of course bald
cypress is not just a landscape tree, we'll probably say
the same thing. Oh yeah, it's almost like cockle bars,
you know, you really have to pull it out of
the fur of animals. And they said, I knew nothing

(07:58):
about that. So pet scaping, maybe we need to start
just a little side group, you know, talking about their
experiences and maybe combining pet skating with lamping.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't know, that could be. Now the new term
is architecture, architecture.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Architect has barkete.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I like that architecture, not pets.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, I know, whenever you were talking about that's true architecture, which, well, okay, architecture,
Well there I did it, you know when I you
know how sometimes you'll hear a word in your head
and then you'll just translate it into another word.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Pumpkin. Did you pumpkins?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Pumpkins? No? No, but I've been seeing a lot of
folks doing it, and I got to tell you our
neighbor has has, honestly and true volunteer pumpkins. They just
moved in this summer and apparently you know that there
was seat left over from when and they have pumpkins
that are growing, you know, right at their front door.

(09:03):
And it's They're beautiful. Plants are just beautiful.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, you don't listen to the beginning of our show.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh well with the Wilson.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wilson's over the last three years and they're volunteer pumpkins.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, Oh, okay, did I save it? Did I?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, quick break and see what buggy Joe Bobs can
put in his never mind his foot. You can't think
you can get it in there anyway. Uh, quick break,
We come back a little bit more with a buggy
Joe Bogs here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Ron Wilson. Time for part two with the Buggy Joe

(11:05):
Bubbs Report. Mister Joe Boys your extension b y G
L dot O s U dot E d U. Yes, sir,
I have a question for you, Sir. We're gonna pick
We're gonna pick your brain, sir. Well, right, Halloween is Halloween. Halloween,

(11:26):
well on our you know when you decide you're gonna
pew Peyton on the last show, we're gonna do a
a the quick fire or we're just gonna fire things
at you for a segment answers, Okay, I did it
with Dr ramag morning. He was great at it, so
you'll do even better. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Talking about Halloween coming up Friday, and if you get
something to talk about, just jump right in here and
cut me off. But Halloween is next Friday. Pumpkin's obviously
very important that time of the year. Can you name
the top ten producing pumpkin states cruising pumpkins by weight?
So other words, say, you know, we do five hundred
million pounds of pumpkins. Can you name any of the

(12:07):
top ten states by weight by weight number the most.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
How much does the state weigh I don't is that
when I'm here now in the state, well, oh, pumpkins,
I'm sorry, I had Well, you know, I think probably
in the top ten most likely is Ohio.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ohio is number six with sixty seven pounds.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know that is you know that is do you
know that Ohio only ranks behind California in terms of
the number of boxwoods that are sold from the state
out of nurseries, out of retail only ranks behind California
number one. Number one is Oregon.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
And you know, and you know this, Ohio is like
in the top usually in every survey for the last
twenty last twenty years, at least in every survey, Ohio
has been, you know, in the top ten, usually hovering
around five or six in terms of nursery production and sales.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I think they used to be the top producer of
greenhouse grown tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, yes, that and Cincinnati was big, you know, at
a place that you and I mean, I just I
love the name of this wooden shoe hollow. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
any any local individuals, but but you know where Ohio
ranks relative to you know, different agricultural crops and is

(13:46):
amazing for us here in Ohio very often, but you know,
for listeners you know elsewhere in the United States, this
is something important to look up for your state because
it is amazing how we have these hidden industries. And
I just say hidden because well, yes, you and I,

(14:07):
because of what we do, we are aware that there's
there are quite a few pumpkins grown in Ohio. That's
that's just because, like I said, what we do. But
you know, as you drive around, even if you just
drive up and down you know, the interstates or just
particularly you know, get off the interstations, it is amazing
how often you run across not little pumpkin patches, but

(14:28):
but acres and that's uh. And of course you know,
but they've been mostly harvested or in the midst of
being harvested. Although that's something as you very well know,
is kind of driven a little more for the the
you know, for Halloween, because you know, when people would
be harvesting pumpkins for for pies for example, I mean,

(14:52):
for food that doesn't necessarily happen as early as it
does for you know, for Halloween, right, sometimes you harvest
a little later and all. But anyway, I interrupted, so
let's get back to the top ten. Well, at least
I at least I got that one, got Ohio. Yeah, yeah,
I got Ohio and Ohio and Ohio. All right, So

(15:18):
another top ten you're looking for, right, yeah, all right,
I'd say probably another top ten would have to be Uhna,
take a stay at Illinois.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Illinois would be number one. How did you think I
knew that because you're googling it while we're talking.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I wish out of all that.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
No, I thought you were killing time while you were
googling this, looking this up. And I said, I was
gonna say, and this, ladies and gentlemen, this is how
Joe Boggs does this. He kills time talking and then
he's got the answer right there in his hands. No,
I'm not gonna take up a bunch of time. But yeah,
Illinois number one. Indiana's number two, you know im, I.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Was toying back and forth. No, seriously, I'm sitting here.
The only thing I'm looking at is the black Eye
Garden Garden line, because you know we Yeah, and and
so the reason I said Illinois, now it wasn't that
I but that was a good strategy. I have to
remember that in the future, having time I gotten things wrong.
But uh, but you know, seriously, the only reason I

(16:25):
was going to I really was going to say Indiana
because of course, you know, my in laws live over
in West Lafayette and and you know, you kind of
grew up in an area of Indiana where they still
have a tree planted way up and top of a
courthouse tower. But it is amazing when you drive, you know,
from where we're located. You know, West Lofaiette is northwest Indiana.

(16:48):
I mean you're not far from Illinois, right, yeah, Chicago,
Yeah yeah, driving the sugar, Yeah, it was always amazing
to us. Even even our kids would be, you know, driving,
they wouldn't be driving. You know, I would be driving.
I didn't want to people. Yes, that's right. So it

(17:10):
was always amazing when we got off the interstate. And
that's kind of important right there. I said that earlier,
But when we'd get off the interstate occasionally would take
a more of a sight seeing trip. It was amazing
at the acreage of pumpkins in Indiana. So the only
reason why I said Illinois because I was going back
and forth. And I did cheat a little bit on

(17:31):
that one because I was at a Now my gosh,
five seven ten, it was. It was actually pre COVID.
I was at a training event about different types of agriculture.
This is diversification. You know, you'd have a farmer who's
been growing corn, soybeans, sweet and you know the idea

(17:51):
of diversifying into something different at the same time being
able to keep your fields from ramping up and with
certain diseases or insects that could affect corn. And so
I means right. And there was one of the speakers
I actually talked about pumpkins, and if I remember correctly,
he did bring up you know, these different states where

(18:13):
pumpkins are very important, and Illinois just stuck in my
head because I was thinking, well, there you go. Yeah,
so that was that explains that real quick.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Illinois, Indiana, Pennsylvania, California, Michigan, Ohio, Washington, Virginia, Wisconsin. And
number ten would be New York.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Man. Isn't that something you would have expected maybe some
I would have expected New York to be a little higher.
Now California, Ah, you know the Central Valley that's vegetables.
But I would gather, I would guess pumpkins not for Illinois.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Illinois blows it blows them out of They were four
hundred and eighty five million pounds, and Indiana is one
hundred and fifty nine million. So Illinois just blows.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Were you going to talk about anything important today?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Oh? Yeah, pumpkins? Oh okay, okay. So so my wife
and my daughter and and I. Yesterday we were we
were at my daughter's house and and we were just
is it a pumpkin? Or is it a gore?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Oh? My gosh, here we go. Is it a pumpkin?
Is it a squash?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Or is it are you?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Are you gonna explain that to us next week?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yes, next week.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
And my co in my costume, which is just how
I look.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You should see. You should see Danny's got his Casper
mask on from when he was in the sixth grade. Yeah,
it's it's pretty funny. I keep laughing every time I
see it. Buggy Joe Bogs always a pleasure. We'll talk
to you next Saturday, do you think? By bye? Thanks
all our colors, Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course to
Daniel Gleason, mister Casper the Ghost This Saturday in honor

(19:58):
of Halloween, h our producer, because without Danny Glees and
none of the stuff would go so Dan, thank you
so much for all that you do. Now do yourself
a favor. We're gonna plant a tree or two or three.
You've got plenty of time. Keep planting those native plants,
in those native selections. Keep planting for the pollinators. Be friendly, pollinator, polite,
pamper your worms, get the kids and dogs involved with gardening,
and by all means, make it the best weekend of

(20:19):
your life.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
See it help, So let's do it yourself gardener. At
one eight hundred eighty two three Talk You're in the
Garden with Ron Wilson.

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