THE Buggy Joe Boggs Report

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is time for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. That would
be Joe Boggs, who happens to be an Assistant Professor
of Commercial Order for the Ohio State Universe extension, oh
Shu Department of Entomology, poster boy for Oshue extension.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Their website is b Y G L dot O s
U dot E d U. Ladies and gentlemen. Mister common
sense call himself Buggy. Joe Boggs. Good morning, kind sir.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Good morning, Good morning boy. What a day. You know
the rain that we had off and on spotty has
really been helpful. Wuld you call me with these temperatures
spotty had off and on Spotty off and on Spotty. Yeah,
I yes, I put the uh yeah, I put the

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comment in there at the wrong place, didn't I?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah you did.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's all right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's like reminds
me of the books. You know that the book about Pandas.
You know Pandas Eat, Shoots and Leave. That's the name
of a book. Great. Yes, yes, we're play office. I
think you know, we got gotta get bring things back.
You know, I got to say things like roll Tide
and war Eagle and all that kind of stuff. What

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did Harold say? They raised nine hundred million? What was that?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Four million? He's he iss incredible. Well it's a serious
you know he is. He got an Award last year.
I mean, he's been championing this for the City of
Hope for years and we're talking about serious, serious books
that he is.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Uh why now, yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And uh yeah. I told him if he got Gary
Sullivan involved, he could take it over that next step.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, man, I tell you we're talking big bucks.
That's yeah. Actually, I mean, you know he was just
saying so nonchalantly, didn't he Oh yeah, yeah, I was listening.
I was thinking, you know, and he said, yeah, we
raised some money a lot like what I mean, you know,
was like wow, that was pretty incredible. So okay, in

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honor of Harold, I'm going to say it. I gotta
do it. I mean, I just that's yeah, he said.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Do you hear what he said? When they gave him
the little award that they gave him, he held his hand.
But you know what, I was disappointed though, that he
didn't find you out. Figure go ahead after that to say,
and I want to dedicate this to Buggy, Joe Boggs,
and Ron Wilson.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know true. I mean actually in your name first,
I mean true. That's that was well, I tell you, yeah,
now that you say that, that sort of rained on
every all of our parade. Yeah, I doubt that. Well,
let's just keep that between us, right, you know, we
don't want Harold to hear that rain on the parade

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and all that.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, So when we're talking about showers that moved through
that really didn't accumulate the.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Much, you know, it was really interesting. And this is
gonna be one of those one of those times where
we're gonna have to really be paying when I say
localized attention. Now, we got we had a very we
had two very serious downpours. The second one was was
oh man, I mean we probably well, look we have

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a little pond in the back, and it totally started overflowing,
which you know, probably meant that we got about an
inch in just a little short while. But I'm quite
certain I'm out down the road. They got nothing. Well
we mediological talk, they got nothing. We got nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
You and Gary and myself were in that same front line,
separated by about five or six miles, and we got
the two fronts that came through the first one wasn't much,
if I remember. The second one had a pretty good downpour,
but again it was you know, I didn't look at
the ring gaze to see but I don't think it

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was that much. But I don't think we got an inch.
But it was a nice little shower the second one.
But what bothers me every time that happens is, I
know folks can confuse and say, oh, that was a
pretty nice shower. I don't have to water.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, that's right, that's exactly right. Use the finger test,
that's uh my wife, Well you know we put your
finger in the ground, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that's a yes.
Or or do the old you know, where you look
your finger and hold it up in the air to
see which way the wind's blowing. That never worked for me. Yeah,

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but anyway, Uh no, it you're exactly right, Ron. I
did check after the second one because you know, I
was thinking I might need to be watering some of
the vegetables. And the first one, you're exactly right. I mean,
it just it just made the surface of the soil
human yeah, humady, Yeah, but you know you're you're right.

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You cannot be just doing a little, you know, just
a little bit of digging just to see where things are.
I mean, I I I contend that every serious gardener
ought to have a soil probe. They're not that expensive.
And that's actually, truthfully what I use all the time,
not just you know, I said to use a finger test,

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but a soil probe keeps your hands a little cleaner,
and you can just sink that into the ground and
pull out a core and just see how deep the
moisture's infiltrated.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Or if you can take the ground, then you know
you're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Then you hammer. If you need a hammer to put
it in the ground, you're exactly right. Well. And also,
and there's a nice segue here, also, you know, if
you have a soil probe, you can more easily do
something that we recommend all the time, and and you

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know people do or don't follow through. And we did
a I posted and along with several other my extension colleagues,
a fact sheet sol testing for horticultural needs, all right,
And admittedly it's a little more Ohio oriented because at
the end we have a list of soil testing labs

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that you could contact, and yes they're more focused around Ohio,
but the rest of it can apply anywhere in the
United States. And then just just yesterday you talk about
hot off the Press guidelines for choosing a soil analytical laboratory.
So we have a list in our fact sheet that

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is co authored with our good friend Gary Gal with
OSU Department of Horticulture and the o Issue South Centers.
And then this fact sheet Gerry's the lead author, and
it helps you. Then you know, when you're looking for
having soil tested, you know what are some of those
things when you are looking for a lab to have

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it done that you should be looking for. So these
two companion fact sheets are out there, and like I said,
the choosing a lab was just posted yesterday on ohio Line.
So to find them, all you have to really do
is just one word ohio line and that will take
you right to this where we have fact sheets posted.

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And then of course, obviously since you're looking for something
with soil, you click on the tab that says horticulture,
although there's also a tab called Insects and Pests, and
I think that's even far more important than anything else
in that entire ohio line posting.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm surprised it's not even highlighted, you know, bold letters
and a yellow highlighting behind it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I've been trying to get that for years. We might
have to have a write end campaign or something like that,
because it's a But at any rate, those two fact
sheets go right with having a soil prob because that
allows you to pull out these soil all plugs to
send in very easily. Makes it. I mean, it really

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makes it easy, doesn't it. But the big deal, the
big deal though, is, like I said, assessing moisture levels
in the soil, like you just said, assessing compaction. You know,
if you have an area like we have grown up
in West Virginia, we parked our cars in the front yard, right, I.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Look back wheels, Yeah, got parked in front.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
There you go. But soil compaction you can check for that.
And also, you know, you might be surprised if you
go around in your landscaping in newer homes or even
homes from the seventies, you know. And I'm just I'm
kind of picking seventies on right. I'm not saying seventies

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or newer homes, but I'm just saying that's about the
time where we started seeing a lot of soil getting
shoved around during development, right yep. I mean it happened before,
but truly after the seventies, in the eighties, nineties, and
up to the now, you know, we often see a
lot of re terraforming going on, just a lot of
changes in the soil. And so that means you're probably

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if you're in a development, you're you're not sitting on
native soil at all. It's been shoved around, moved around,
and so it's not a bad idea, you know, to
just go around your yard and you know, ground your
landscape and just use the soil pro pull out, see
what you have. Because we have a thing you and
I mean I've heard this, you know, let the soil

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choose the tree. Let the soil choose the plant, instead
of us choosing a plant and trying to get it
to do well under conditions that that plant can't do well.
And so that means you're looking to see if the
soil is compacted, if it's poorly drained or good drainage.
And of course the soil tests will tell you what

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the pH is that soil. And you know in iron
area of the country, we tend to have the pah
just a bit towards the high side, what we call
the alkalin side, whereas a lot of plants that we
had love to grow, like acidic soil. Right, I'd love
to grow rhododendrons. I was just in northeast Ohio a
month ago, and oh my gosh, you know, huge rhododendrons

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because they have more acidic soils. And so that's very
important because how many times and you I'm sure had
it happened. Here you're talking to somebody and you're telling about, well,
you know, for some reason, my hollys they're just see through,
you know, the leaves are dropping off and they're just
not you know, and you always say, well that's good.

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They'll stand up in a heavy wind, they won't blow over, right.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Because of that allows a circulation.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It does, it does, but you know, you know in
your head what's going on. That's the wrong place for
a holly. It's the wrong place for a lot of
different plants. So that kind of got a little carried
away there. It never happened.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That never happens.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's the first.

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the Buggy Joe Bogs Report, Joe Boggs. I wish you
extension website bygl dot Osu dot Eedu. You know you
were talking about that the probe and the soils and
all and tough time of the year, trying to figure
out when the water when not the water, et cetera,
et cetera. And I had a gentleman last week. Send
me a picture of a dog with they had planted
back in April, and he said, you know, we've planted it.

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We've been watering it as you instructed, et centar, et cetera.
And the leaves have just been laying down, just wilted down.
It hasn't lost any leaves. They're just limp. And he said,
I don't know what to do at this point. So
I said, if you got a moisture meter, yeah, I said,
go out and just put it in the in the
root ball and put it in the soil on the
next to the root ball the backfill. Tell me what
it says. Send me a picture of the root ball,

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you know, the top where you planted it as well.
He did it, and both things said we And he
hadn't watered it for three or four days. And here
was a situation where the soil was. I told him
go ahead, and I said, down beside it and tell
me what you find. He said, I got down about
four inches and it was solid water. And there's a
situation where he pulled it out and the whole bottom

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of the hole was filled with water. And he had
watered in three or four or five days, and the
soil was that it couldn't drain, it was not percolating
at all, and that that tree was just sitting in water.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's uh, you know, that's something that in fact I had.
I had two questions this past week. One was was
on a y Burnham I winter third by by Burnham,
which we also have two in our backyard, which I'm
just lovely by Burnham. I love the leaves and lost
a rate. Yeah. Now, if it if it becomes too dry,

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and this is based on personal experience from last year,
if it becomes too dry, the tips of the leaves
start turning you know, black, very very fast. This actually
true on a lot of the Viburnums and a few
other plants. Now, if this is happening on something like
you know, like a dog wood for example, typically if

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they have a problem, and I want to be very
delivered here, we call physiological leaf scorch. And the cause
is just is very simple. The plant cannot maintain enough
water going to those leaf cells to keep them alive.
And that's it. That's all you can really say. With

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certain plants, you know, the scorching is kind of brown.
That's dog wood, you see brown along the edges. With
others it can become blackened, and that makes you think, well,
maybe there's a disease. But at both ends of the
moisture spectrum you can see the same things. Fact, what
you just said, if it is too dry, you have

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water enough, you'll get leaf scorch. But what about the
too wet end of the scale. And you've talked about
this before, and we both talked about it before, and
that is first what happens is, since the roots have
to get oxygen from the soil and they don't have gills,
if the water, if the soil is water logged. For

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many plants, with few exceptions like bald cypress and a
few you know that are adapted to wet soils, For
many plants, the root cell start for the roots start
first shutting down. They just simply they just cannot pull
in water, water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
So that's the first step. If then the soil dries out, well,

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then no harm, no foul, and you may not even
notice it because you won't get scorch at that point.
How or if the if the soil remains wet over
an extended period of time, you get exactly the same
leaf scorch as you would with the soil being dry.
So that then leads to what I mean, you the
perfect what you what you recommended. I bet you suspected

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newly played right. Whenever you're newly planted and you ask,
you say, well, tell me about your watering. Ah, I'm
watering it, you know, like every ten minutes. Yeah, you know,
I mean, you know, honestly, people they wanted to survive.
But then along the way, as you just pointed out,
it may be the soil inherently it's heavy clay just

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doesn't drain very fast, or like you said, it could
be compacted. And there's a way to learn about that.
You know, when we're digging our holes to plant something
I always tell people, you know, when you're digging that
nice hole, you know, start with the whole. It's about
size of a gallon jug, a gallon milk jug. Fill
the gallon milk jug, though full of water. This is

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why you want to make the whole the same size.
Now you need to have the soil moist. You don't
want the sold to be dried and cracked. To do
and what we're going to recommend people do, so you
want to sold to be moist around it and you
pour that gallon in. When you do it, you start
looking at your water and I always, I know it
sounds funny, and if people can see it, I'm demonstrating it.

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I always poor it with my left hand because that's
where my watch is. And as soon as I'm pouring,
you know, I'm looking at my watch and you start
to countdown. As soon as you feel that gallon hole
full of water. If you can come back three days
later and there's fish in it, you have very poor drainage, right, Yeah,

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it should be. It should a good drainage. It should
start draining immediately. It should start with your watch. If
it's drained out in a minute to three minutes, you've
got pretty good drainage. If it takes over an hour,
then you've got to figure something out there. Either plant
something that can take it, or you know, look a

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way to modify around that. You might elevate, you may
you know, a cut channels away so the water can drain.
I mean, there's a lot of different things you can do,
but the point but it's just important to do something
because you know that dog would would not make it,
would it. I mean, it would be killed with kindness.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, it was hanging in there as best it could,
you know, just drowning. And it hadn't yelled or anything.
The leads were just hanging down. Was like, somebody saved
me here. So we did. We pulled it, pulled it out,
let it dry out, and uh, we're gonna do the
old asterisk thing. We're cutting like a line through it
to get it to drain away from that hole. And
there you go and channel it out and then go

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from there. But you know, again, if you've got a
new home you never planned there before, do what we
were talking about here, to see how well your soil
dreams before you do anything, uh investing in treats or
shrubs or whatever may be. You may be surprised how
well it doesn't drain. Buggy Joe Boggs always a pleasure Again,
b yg L dot O, s U dot edu. Talk
to you next Saturday.

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