The Buggy Joe Boggs Report

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You're in the garden with Ron Wilson in this time

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for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor,
Commercial Horder coachure educator for the Ohio State University Extension
Oshue Department of Entomology bygl dot OSU dot edu is
his website.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hello Joe, Hello Ron, How you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm great in yourself, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Man, I tell you, I just can't complain. Although we were
having a chat before I came on about out. You know,
a couple of weeks from now, the big day, Big
day up in Columbus and uh and so we're gonna
have to get all primed up for that, aren't we.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm already primed up. I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm very primed up. I just wish it wasn't Texas
because uh, I think I think they're a little upset
with us though. You notice how use the word upset? Yes, yes, right, yes.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
By the way, by the way, you know the UH
O G I A. Ron Roth is playing healthcare newsletter
this week? Did you see the picture of you on there?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I did not?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh you didn't, did you? And Steve Fault standing on
the wall and it looks like one of you You're
trying to figure out who's gonna jump first.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, we had to, if you notice. And the
wall wasn't very tall, so we don't. We're not high
risk people.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's like Steve's going to Joe, You're gonna jump first?
Am I gonna jump?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Are you gonna go first?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Or am I gonna go that's a? Oh, that's A.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's the O G I A and and OSU extension walkabouts.
We love doing those, and Ron was that all of
them put, you know, And what we love about it
is that even though that in that case, Steve and
I were leading that at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and
zoom Ron is always participating and uh and providing valuable information,

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which is what we really do love with it. Even
you know, the teachers aren't just us, it's the whole group.
And that's because we have a lot of very good
professionals in the horticulture industry.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I may be biased, but I.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Think that that's something that that you and I are
very fortunate about, right. Yeah, have so many just fantastic,
top notch people that can help us, for example, with
figuring out those little black spots on the side of
shiny sighting or cars. Yeah, I've been hearing you and

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Gary talk about it. And you know, first of all,
when you go online, I think I think last week
you may have said this, but if you go online
and and and search you know, a shotgun fungus, about
half the pictures are incorrect. There bird's nest fungi that
that are being shown. The shotgun fungus fruiting structures are

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very very tiny and you kind of really have to
get down your hands and knees. But if you do,
be kind of careful, if you're wearing glasses because that
that does fungi because there's more than one species, they
aim at shiny surfaces. It's been been shown research down

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Penn State, for example, showed that that if you have
a dull surface, if you have something like a tree trunk, no,
But if you have a shiny surface, something like a leaf, yes,
really and in personally say yeah, might you might think, well,
why would a shiny surface be so helpful? Well, that
helps with distribution and that's why that that uh, that

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spore packet is surrounded by such a sticky, gelatinous mass,
which I've said many times and I think Gary should
get onto.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
This, says.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I don't want to say a retirement plan, but it
could be something just to help with his you know,
with funding his house in King Kuon right that find
out what what on one of his many houses. Yes,
I know we know about that. Yeah, he's always always
hanging that over us. That's right, that's right, but I mean,

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I mean they're not half as good as the ones
in Europe. But anyway, he is, he coming over to
your your spot in the That adhesive is remarkable and
there have been there has been some work done on it,
but nothing that I could find that was published. The

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reason I know there's been some work and had to
do with trying to come up with things to break
it down. And it is stubborn. I mean, I honestly think.
I mean we're in the epoxy group basically when we
talk about how solid you know, the uh that becomes
once it dries. As you said, you're exactly right. If

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you get it, Let's say that it's launched first thing
in the morning, because it doesn't do it at night.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
It does it with daylight. As I said, at night.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
The positively phototrophy, positively phototrophy, so that means, yeah, thank
you love that. So if you get them, you know,
the day that it happens, you can do a pretty
good job of cleaning it. But that is unless you
have it on a shiny surface in the sun, which

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happened at a car dealership or BMW's about twenty years
ago that we got, you know, an email phone call
I forget now to try to help. And this isn't
a dealership with with as I if I remember, there
were at least three white BMW sitting next to mulch

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and they had to repaint them.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
They it was that bad.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So if you if you don't, yeah, well of course
they were being sold, you know, these little fly spacks
you know, didn't really didn't really help out. It didn't
go over well. But the point being is that the
identification why I say that, is because birds nest fungi
that get mistaken for shotgun fungi. The birds nest fungi,

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if you go online and type that into the search,
you'll you'll see that that they are very evident cup
like structures that typically have two to four sometimes three
spores sitting here look looking like eggs.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
That's why there's.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Exactly they don't fire those spores off. So if you
have birds nest fungi, that's just another sacrifite, meaning that
it's just another decayor of organic matter.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Uh and doesn't really doesn't really.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Cause any oh, it doesn't cause any problems. There was
some work done to see if you have more of that,
we have less shotgun fungi. In other words, do they
compete for the same resources. And my understanding is that
it's kind of a wash, so to speak. Oh, that
was yeah, stretched right, Yeah, yeah, I know, that's pretty bad. Yeah, uh,

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they will compete for the same resources, but it doesn't
seem like one suppresses the other, so you can have
both together.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But if you.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
See birds nest sung a fungi, it doesn't mean necessarily
going to have shotgun fungi. And as you said, breaking.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Away that that that.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mulch and redistributing it somewhere is a good idea. But
as you also know, you know, once those spores are there,
even in the soil you put down new mulch, you're
gonna have to be just say, cognizant, just be aware
that since this these are fungi that are are actually
good fungi, they're decaying organic matter, breaking it down so

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that the organic matter can go into the soil. The
downside is that it's if you have it in a location,
it's kind of hard to get rid of if you
as long as you keep you know, disturbing the mulch
so it can't.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Kind of get organized.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
That that's that's extremely helpful, and and you might want
to be thinking about, you know, going a year without
mulch in some locations, which is you know, kind of
difficult when we have droughty conditions because mult is so
helpful with maintaining soil moisture, but it's it's a bit
of a challenge on the On the other hand, run,

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I mean, I'm not a big fan of rock mulch
or what we call inorganic mulch.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
There have been that. That's what that dealership went to
simply because they had to. But but around homes, I mean,
I don't know. I just I'm not, Like I said,
I'm not a huge fan of it. People can do
what they want. But the key with with organic mulch
is it does break down over time. It does contribute

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organic matter to the soil, so it improves soil structure,
and that's that's very important, particularly if you have high
clay soils, which you and I are just we we've
never seen that before, right, no, never.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
We got to take a break. Your takeaway from that
particular segment is positive phototrophic. Use that in conversation sometime
and saffro fych safro fyight. There you go, there you go,
use that in conversation sometime as well. Uh, but take
a break. Come back with a part two of the
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for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggsyporto issue stitch
Bygyll dot O s U, dot E d U. Hello Joe. Hello.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well during the break I was cut loose. I got
disconnected and it was interesting because I had just put
another quarter, you know, in the phone. Is it thirty five? Well,
there was a suggestion maybe it was a maybe it
was a Canadian quarter or something like that.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I could explain it, yet, that.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Could be it, that could be it. I don't even
have a good segue for that. I don't even know
where I was heading with that. It's just kind of
a funny thing.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
But Joe said he was going to play a joke
on you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I know, I think that was it.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Quite the trickster.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
He used to threaten that so many times, right, and
I finally came through. Yeah, oh it still does. If
I keep talking, I'm going to hear another clique.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Hey for you, I'm waiting. I think what we're going
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You don't know, you don't this is totally off whatever
you're going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Okay, horn worms.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I haven't had too many reports of horn worms year,
which I think usually I get a bunch of them,
and I haven't had any as a matter of fact.
But I didn't know that you could take a black
light and they reflect the black light if you're looking
for him at nighttime on your tomato and pepper plants.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Isn't that It is remarkable? Yes?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I was like wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
It takes us back to the old until our younger days. Remember,
you know, and everything with black lights. Everybody had one
in your room? No, no, well, no, no, that are
misspent youth. I had a strobe light too, Oh man.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
I just yeah, strobe light. Yes, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I just I'm trying to think of the one of
many horror movies where strobe lights were involved. Right, you
just you just saw the bad thing coming at.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
You, you know, and as I go, no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I keep going in different directions. But black lights, it's
it is amazing how that's used for a number of
different insects. And well, I should say arthropods because you
know the trick out West. They really are very very
useful if you're looking for scorpions, same deal. Those things
just they they'd light up with a black light. And

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if you speak to people that you know, live where
scorpions can be an issue, it's not a bad idea,
you know, to kind of check your room out, you know,
with a black light very quickly.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
There you go, Joe Strecker, when you move to Arizona.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's right, And well, I know Gary's he homes down
and Cancun.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, black lights one of Arizona too.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know, it is interesting though, like you, I expected,
I expected, frankly on my own tomatoes to be seeing uh,
at least a tobacco. Well, now here's the thing. So
yesterday I was out there just well, I was picking
some tomatoes. Only have three plants, but they are thick.

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And I found a little bit of little, tiny pellets
and these hadn't turned black yet, but little.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yes, yes, so you tasted them and they weren't crunchy.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
No, if you know that there are limits, there are
limits to my entomological You.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Know, by the way, you know what a drone bee
tastes like, because Barbon and I were talking about this
this morning.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
A drone bee.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, there are actually people that will pick the drone
bees and eat them fresh. They don't taste like chickens.
They taste like, oh.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
There, Well that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
And I said, you know what, Joe Boggs will never
find out. She said, no, you're right, no I will.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I will never find out. But the little black pellets
tells me that. And Ron I looked. I looked very hard,
and it's just a So I'm gonna have to see
if I can find a black light because there has
to be by the way. So what we're talking about
is insect excrement that we call frasts, and you do,

(16:23):
I do. Yeah, that's what we're saying. Yeah, poop, bug poop.
But frass is a great word because it doesn't really
sound at all like what it stands for right where
it comes from. Yeah, so it's a good indicator. Fresh
we're skirting around this right so that Joe Joe doesn't

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hang up on me. Again, it's a it's a great
indicator when you do have certain insects and tobacco or
tomato horn worms. And I'm saying that that way because
I've had folks go online and they'll have a tobacco hornworm,
which is really more common frankly on tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I see. I never get that. Why do we see
that more? And why does the tobacco hornworm have it's
got the redtail, right, and the tomato backworm or as
the blackhorn and that doesn't make sense either.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
But nevertheless, well, it's one of those deals where I've
I've had really nice picture set in fact last year
and because the person went online to look I mean,
they were on tomatoes, but they well what and they
saw that they looked up tomato hornworm, and of course
they look very similar obviously, but not quite the same,

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and so they thought they had a different a whole
different thing. And so that's why I want to make
sure people know, Okay, they're two different species. And it's
because you know, tobacco and tomatoes are in the same family,
soul an Ace, so you know, it's the insect of
just feeding on another host. But if you are searching

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for these things and just can't find them, I really
am please that you said that about the black light
because you can buy these now in a flashlight form.
That's what I've seen the entomologists you out in Arizona
doing research on scorpions, and so you know, that makes
it kind of a little easier. If a person has

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quite a few tomato plants. In my case, with three plants,
I'm eventually going to find the caterpillars. I just can't believe.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, and then it's as big as your little finger,
and you go, how did I not see that?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah? By then it's knocking your tomatoes over. You know,
I'm kind of going after your you know, dogs and
cats and just yeah, like, oh my gosh, but I
will tell you the last thing we need to bring up,
and maybe we're going to have to hold the next week,
which won't be a problem. But these little, these helmet
shaped things that can show up on Magnolia's well, helmet

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shaped things.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I did bring it up earlier and I said, I
don't know if Joe's going to talk about it or not, but.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Be sure idea, yeah, yeah, magnolia scale being a lookout
for it. Now, Look, if you have a small magnolia tree,
like one of my neighbors up the street has a
very small magnolia tree, and honestly, if it's if you
don't want to do it barehanded, you can do it
with gloves. But if you spend a little time and
squash these things, that's the end of it. It's called

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a soft scale. And so if it's a small tree,
and I emphasize that right ron because a big, bigger
magnolia that could take a while, but only a small tree.
I've had many homeowners tell me, you know, that's what
they did for years and and you got rid of
the problem. If it's a larger tree, though, and you

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try to spray them now, you're not going to get
much in the way of control. Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
They're waxy.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Uh. They are sucking juice from directly underneath their bodies
out of the tree, so they're not going to, you know,
take up the insecticide. Even if systemic applied right now
is going to have a limited impact on these big
females that are pulling juice from the tree. It won't
be too much longer though, until we'll start going into

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a stage called the crawler stage. Those females lady eggs,
those they hatch, and then the crawlers start feeding. And
if you do have a systemic in the tree at
that time, or spray the tree directly when they're crawlers available,
you can suppress them. But right now it's a difficult time.

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On the other hand, look for lady beetles and we'll
talk more about that next week.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
You promise, I promise, make your notes, Buggy Joe Buggs
always a pleasure, b yg L dot OSU dot ed.
You have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
You have a great weekend. Ro on bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Thanks to our callers, Thanks to our sponsors. Thanks of
course to Joe Strecker, our producer today, because without Joe,
this show just wouldn't go been a long times I
can be able to say that. So thank you Joe
for all that you do. Now do yourself a favor
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about that? How are you going to be more friendly

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in your gardening and more pollinat or polite? Think about that?
How are you gonna get get the kids and dogs
involved with gardening. Pamper your worms because if the worms
are happy, your plants are happy, and by all means
make this the best weekend of your life.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
See you.

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