THE Buggy Joe Boggs Report 5/10/2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson Online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. And
as I promise, it is time for Yes the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. That would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor,
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Most Department of Entomology, host boy for a issue extension,

(00:22):
co creator of moth or Coffee Emporium where I think
I got a moth in my coffee this morning as
we opened up the show. The website is b Y
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Ladies and gentlemen. He can make waterwater mister common sensical himself,
Buggy Joe Bob, come.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
On, good morning, Sir Snidley Snideley whiplash. That's that's me.
That's that's a happy.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Mother's Day to my brother from another mother.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'll tell you it has to be. It has to be.
I think we figured that out somewhere in the somewhere
back in time. There must have been a shared relative.
There had to be.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
In West Virginia somewhere we were crisscrossed there with jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Absolutely, absolutely, Like my grandmother always said, you can't run
away from your genes. I don't know if that had
to do with Genet.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Wearing a belt.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think maybe, and suspenders. I was always that way. Well,
I'll tell you stuff is happening, isn't it. Any Things
are really starting to kick out. Well, you know with
all the rain, and of course this is this is
a rarity. You think about it, ron you think of

(01:44):
all the different places that your show goes. I mean,
I think it's not just worldwide. I have a feeling,
you know, there might be well, let's see, they don't
call them UFOs anymore. But I have a feeling somewhere
out there in the galaxy. You know, there's some little,
you know, gardening creatures listening in. I think you're it's

(02:04):
a galactic show. But you know, I don't know where
that got. I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
What bug is he talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
But you know, at some point the Eastern United States
becomes very divided in terms of what is going on, right,
I mean, at some point, there's a dry area, there's
a lot of heat, there's some frosts, you know, And
I mean we're a little late for that. Well not totally,
but at some point things really starting to divide.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
It thirty nine this morning at the Arbordos House.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know, it has We have had some really nice
cool nights there.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
We had there was a slight chance of frost in
northeastern Ohio this morning.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, and you know we've had frost well up in
the Mayti and yeah, it's But the point being is
that right now we're enjoying such a wide, nice gardening time,
except you can't plant anything because too wet. The ground
is so wet.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
It you get a couple of good sunny days, a
little bit of wind blowing, it'll be dry.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You'll be able to plant well well, and I'll tell
you what dry things out the quickest. And you know,
you and I've talked about this, and sometimes it's easy
to forget just how rapidly a big maple tree, a
big oak tree pulls water out of soil. Sure, and
that's well in turf grass, you know, we which is
looking fantastic, It really is. So this is the time

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when you sit on the porch. Actually, this is a
time when you take pictures, right, take the picture of
your house and you know that way you have it
in to look at in August, late July, early August
to say this is what. Yeah, I got started off
and went kind of in a pretty negative direction.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
We're trying to hang with you, but it.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Is, this is, this is this has been a very
interesting spring. Things are happening. Finally, the periodical cicadas are
making their presence known. Not coming out in huge numbers
quite yet, but they are. They are emerging, and you
go check it out.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now, you go look, yo, you go look now, we'll wait.
You go check it out.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's getting cold to night. I heard on
the on the radio that we shouldn't be coming out.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm not coming out yet. You go check it out.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, that is an issue because they do emerge mainly
at night, and which is always an interesting thing to see.
You know, if you're in an area where periodical cicadas
are are scheduled to merge this year, and that's that's
a fairly defined area. It's not you know, northern Ohio,
it's not even central Ohio, southern Ohio and a point

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south because we go this route goes goes very far
south and if you're in an area where they're scheduled
to emerge. You know, once you start seeing the evidence,
then wait until you know ten or eleven o'clock. Actually
they get rolling, you know, just after dusk, and just
go out with a flashlight and watch this occur. It's

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a pretty interesting thing which only happens in a given
location at about every seventeen to thirteen years, except in
southern Ohio. One am I driving as well? We have
we have you know, we can experience three different brood

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emergencies in southern Ohio. And when you think about it,
there aren't too many places in the US where you
have this much overlap. In fact, you know, Ohio is
we used to be the crossroads of the nation, right,
I think we're the periodical Cicadia emergence site of the nation.
It's it's an interesting it's an interesting situation. But but

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you know, this is a fairly big brood and and
so you know, get out and enjoy it. One thing
I do want to emphasize though, and this could be.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Hugely he you know what, several people just said, What
did Joe just say, get out and enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
You're breaking up? Ron I don't know that I said that.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know, people run scream because those things are out there.
Just get out and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I know, I know, I realized what I said. My
entomology thing kind of it sort of came out, didn't it.
I mean, it's, uh yeah, I try not to do that.
I'm working on that very hard.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I will tell you right up front, Joe Boggs, he
may enjoy them, but there's one way that he does
not enjoy them. As it pertains to all the insects
that are out there. He will not eat a cicada.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I just can't do it. I just you know, I know,
I know, just can't do it. I won't do it.
You know. Yes, that's you know a lot of my
entomology friends and colleagues. Yes, it's a big deal. And
they claim that it tastes like, you know, something good,
and it might it very well might.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Maybe a potato flavor, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's the way. It all tastes more like.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
The bourbon than I had it in. I don't, I
don't remember.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's always the funny, you know. It tastes like chickens, right,
That's why I always here. I mean, that's a standard joke.
You know, and which is how we know how dinosaurs tasted,
by the way, but that's a little different story.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, that's a way different story, by the way, Joe,
before we take to break two things. One is just
so hearing it from Buggy Joe Boggs. Besides using netting,
and of course cheese cloth is out there, but there's
so much cacata netting out there today, which it really
helps your plants breathe and it's a lot better for
your plants. There's really nothing to do besides sit back

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and enjoy them.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, it is true. If you have a if you,
if you and miss you and I talked about this,
whether you'd want to delay planting or or go ahead
and plant, you know, and then protect I really or
don't plant I mean I don't like that. I never
I never recommend just don't plant a tree. Plant a tree.
When you can plant a tree delayed planting, well, yeah,

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that's okay too if it's a containerized because you know,
you basically you can put those in the ground just
about any time, right, but you know it's because all
the root system is there. But if you've planted a
tree in the last year or so, it's a young tree,
and you can do it. Just first of all, monitor things.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You may not do anything exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, I took a drive into our predicted cicada territory,
and I'm already seeing some pretty remarkable well let's just say,
maybe Halloween decoration, garden art. And I get it. I mean,
I understand, Okay, let's get prepared and all that. But

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based on the previous emergencies, and this is just you
have hotspots and then you have within that area almost nothing.
Our neighborhood, for example, I did not think it would
get hit during the last emergence in twenty twenty one,
not this brood. It was another brood, and I didn't
think we'd really have a problem, but we did coming

(09:51):
from the surrounding woods. But Ron, you know, you and
I talked about this at the time. You could go
down the road literally a mile and there was enough
and there were big trees. I mean, you know, there
should have been cicadas. I don't know what happened, but
there just weren't any. So this this hit or miss,
and even within even within neighborhoods, so older neighborhoods, because

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remember we did say this is true, the tree had
had to have been, you know, around seventeen years ago
as a pretty big tree to support cicadas that are
coming out underneath it right now. So we do. We
have some older neighborhoods, and within those neighborhoods, you could

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drive and here'd be a location where they were just thick,
and you could literally walk to another location and there
just wasn't It's just that's just that's just how this is.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So we got to take a break.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Zoom, yeah, and I'm gonna leave it.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm gonna leave this real quick. This was always my
theory and I think you agree with me when we
talk about this, is that if you wait it out,
and if by and watch the plants that you are
concerned about, if by chances cicadas come out and they're
all over uh and they start jointing, you know, on it,
take a garden host and flush them all off and
then cover it. Yeah, so wait just to be sure,

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and then you bowl them all off and then you
cover it and you're good to go. So yeah, and
waited out all right, We'll take a quick wayf we
come back and find out a few things that maybe
Buggy Joe Baumbs bug Joe Bogg's mom has taught him
when he was growing up. I'm sure he's got a
few things like my mom taught me religion. Like she
always said, you know, you better pray that that comes

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out of the carpet, or you better pray that that
grows back or run. You better pray that your dad
doesn't find out. Did she use all three of your names?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Ron? Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah? And I tell you what, I did a lot
of praying when I was a kid growing up. But
no doubt about it. All right, quick break, we come
back more with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden
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Speaker 1 (13:13):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggy Port Joe
boggs Oshu extension byg L do Osu dot Eedu. Joe.
I told you my mom taught me how to pray
when I was early on. There's a lot of things
I better pray about for some reason, and for some reason,
I got a funny feeling that your mom probably tried
to teach you logic, because I can hear your mom saying,

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Joseph Boggs, if you fall out of that tree and
break your neck, you're not going to the store with me.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's right. That's how did you know? That's exactly right.
It's all those things. We heard them, all, didn't we?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I'm just I'm pausing because I'm just thinking that through,
because yes I did. And the religion thing, I I
really you better pray your dad doesn't find out.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Pray your dad didn't find out about that. Oh no, hey, hey,
before we go ahead. Now look, I was getting serious
and now you're getting serious.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I am getting serious because I do want I do
want to I want to make sure people hear this
and use this. So, if you're in the Cicada area
and you have a decent smartphone, which you know, I like,
I say, I have a smartphone, but only one of us.
But if there is an app called Cicicada Safari and

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Cicada Safari, just I mean, that's that's just you know,
two words, Cicada Safari. You go to any of the
downloading load sites for apps on your phone, whether you
have a uh you know, an iPhone or or or
other type of phone. You can you can you can
get this app. And what it does, it's easy to

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set up. It allows you then to go out take
a picture of the cicada and then it will upload
onto the app and it'll mark on a map. You
know where that cicada was found. Doctor Gene Kritsky, you
know Gene from Mount Saint Joe here in Cincinnati. He

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and their IT department developed this years ago and they've
kept refining it. And of course, as you and I
have said this, you know, gene Kritsky literally wrote the
book on periodical cicadas, because he did write a book
on this particular brood as well as a few others.
So Gene has worked very diligently. And why this is
so important is we only get a chance to map

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out these broods in this case every seventeen years, and
so we're relying on observations all the way back in
two thousand and eight, and you can think about that
for us to predict where they might be today. Consequently,
you know, there's a lot of guesswork there, right, and
back to whether you need to respond or not. If

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we take advantage of each brood, learning where they are
and where they're not, then we can help folks to
understand well, maybe you just don't need to worry about them.
And a good example is where we live run. We
will have some emerging right at the edge of where
Hamilton County and Butler Canty come together. So for those

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listeners outside this region, we're talking about northern Cincinnati where
two counties come together, and there's a location there that
in two thousand and eight there was a very heavy
emergence in that location, but it's kind of far away
from where the main body of this brood is. So
Cicada safari, I just urge that you all, you know

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that listeners in the area that are predicted where they're
going to be cicadas or if you're driving around through it,
download it. You do have to for the app, you
do have to have it set up so that app
can give Gene and the you know, the software your location.
But you can have that happen just for that app,

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and you know how that works wrong, You can just
have that location a finder come on just for the app,
and it's again, it's easiest pie and just do us
all favor too, and this is gonna sound kind of funny.
I mean, you can just take a picture the cicada
is coming up on the stem of the tree and
that's fine. You don't need to pick them up or
do anything. Just take a picture and then you'll you know,

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there's instructions very easy to post that picture if you
if you kind of you know, if you want to.
The nice thing might be, though, is if you can
pick this cicada up. And how you do that is
just pick it up by the wings because the two
wings are kind of held tent like over the body.
So if you kind of pinch those two wings, they

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don't like you. They don't do anything like that. And
then turn it over terry taking a picture of the
underside of the cicada. The reason that that's helpful if
you can do it, if a person is too squeamish
to do that. That's how we separate the three species
of cicadas that are emerging. So right now there are

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going to be three species, and some of these broods
have more like two species, and maybe the third doesn't,
we don't know that. But that's how we can separate
easily the three species. So again a little bit of
a little bit of helping us out with learning where
they are and aren't. I just had to get that

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in wrong, because this is this is golden. I may
even say it again over the next week or so,
but I interrupted you. You had very important things to say.
Nothing never mind, got no listen to you. You were
on a roll now.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I was just going to say that, you know, things
are starting to pick up for you now as far
as things going on. And I laughed this week with
all the different things I've gotten in emails wanting to
know what's going on. And I printed all this stuff
out because it's just amazing. Rose rosette going crazy right now.
Oh yeah, I'm getting maple trees that the branches that

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aren't leafing out loaded with scale. I'm getting maple leaves
that are loaded with galls. I'm getting roses that are
getting hammered by rose slugs. I'm getting uhler with cool
season mites. And I got my first thing of sawfly
larvae this week on Mugo pum gosh.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, so it's a wonderful time.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I just said, Oh my gosh, Joe's spinning around just loving.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
All this stuff. We finally are having stuff happening.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
There you go, Buggy Joe Bot. It's always a pleasure.
We'll talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
You have a great take care.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
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Speaker 2 (20:18):
See it.

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