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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Again
that tot free number eight hundred A two three A
two five five. Don't forget our website's Ron Wilson online
dot com Facebook page In the Garden with Ron Wilson.
It is time now for the Buggy Joe Bobs your port,
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Then your last a Universe extension O is your Department
of Entomology, poster boy for the O issue Extension, co
(00:21):
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Ladies and gentlemen, Mister common sensical and ready to get
off the schneid, Buggy Joe bug.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Man, I'm getting off the schneid and starting and going
back to posting some big alerts.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Have you Have you heard that? I guess you've heard
that expression before. No, get off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I never I was listening to I mean I was
off this night.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I never heard that's legit when I went online
and it's A. It's a saying for all kinds of things.
Get off the schneid that Gary Salmon, he is so
full of information. I'm full of uh information.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's a it's incredible and just what's gonna you know,
what's gonna? What are we gonna learn next? In fact,
we probably should just get right back and and and
listen to his wisdom some more.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Talk more so? Did you get that front at your
home last night?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know that was remarkable? Yes? And no it kind
of split. I mean that's a that's a very strange thing,
that that that that we sometimes see. And I think
you and I even talked about this, you know, you
and Gary and I sort of we're sort of lined
up in a way east west right kind of sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm the farthest west from you guys. Danny's in the
same line.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh was that right? So you probably got a pretty
It probably called you to get off your schneide to
see what was going on?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Right, Yeah, yes, it did, ye off side?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But any rate it? Uh well, it's interesting now I
claim that, and I think I'm right about this. Uh it.
You know, these storms have been have been splitting. You know,
I put an apple on this. It's got kind of
a shield in the app and I think it's shielding us,
you know, from this happening.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Huh, that's that's crazy. I was in touch with yesterday,
thank you, Joe Joe Strecker who lives down this would
be south of our pattern, and he was getting a
little bit of lightning and thunder, but they got nothing
but a little drizzle.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, it's interesting. I thought that that we heard
earlier in the day things are gonna be a little
rougher further south, right, Yeah, well you know when it started. Yeah,
and but you know, we got things first, and so
I truthfully wasn't paying attention at all. I was I
was actually looking up some information on yellow poplar, which
(03:09):
we'll get to in a minute when went, you know,
just because of curiosity, and also because I'm going to
be post I'm going to go back to posting big
old alerts. I've kind of been off that cycle because
of trying to get fact sheets done. I know that
sounds kind of stranger, and the listeners, well, what in
the heck's he talking about? Well you always talk about,
(03:30):
you know, the big old buckeye yard and garden line,
and that's where we post, you know, things that are happening.
We try to hopefully have things that are happening right now.
You know that what we're observing. But then universities also
have these publications called fact sheets, and they're intended to
(03:51):
be I hate to use the word static, but that's true.
They're updated every so often, but they provide a lot
of background information and rob you know this, A lot
of my legal alerts I get to be rather long
when we talk about the life cycle of things. We
talk about some general things because I have to put
that in there. But the idea over the last little
(04:13):
bit has been to really work hard on getting the
fact sheets posted so I can refer to them. And
for example, you and I talked about the cicada fact
sheet that was updated. There had been one published in
twenty seventeen, and so now as the brood is emerging
in southern Ohio, people can then reference that. And then
(04:36):
all I need to do is just reference the fact
sheet when I do reports Friday or yesterday, yesterday? What
day is this? Yesterday? I submitted a fact sheet on
soil testing. It's an update, and I think you'll find
it's a much more useful update because we do some
diagnostics in there too, and there again instead of you know,
(05:00):
in a big old alert talking about you know, symptoms
produced by a nutrient deficiency, we can talk about that,
but then when we talk about getting the soil tested,
I don't need to repeat everything. So that's that's kind
of you know, where things have been recently the reason
why I bring that up. But I've actually gotten some emails,
(05:22):
you know, have you stopped, you know, posting big old
alerts and new and you announced it, and uh, I
just thought I'd better lead off with no, the alert.
My alerts aren't dead. Other people are posting alerts, and
that's something to remember because there are a group of
us that are involved in this, the whole team. And
(05:43):
so it's just I'm just taking a little pause while
I get some background stuff posted. Does that make good sense?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Along with the ever lovely Amy Stone.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes, Amy Stone, and and Pam Bennett and and never
lovely Pam Bennett and then Eric Draper, which we're not
sure about.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That I wouldn't love either way. I was out and
about yesterday and uh, cicadas are out and about and yeah,
saw them in blue Ash, saw them in simms township,
saw them in Claremont County, believe it or not, Batavia,
and that's yep. Yeah, and really it's on there. My
(06:24):
mom's got them big time in Sims Township and also
saw them Inmorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So now you can you can lie to me every
place you stopped. I reported it a photo and reported
it on Cicadas Safari. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, but I asked, I asked the homeowners to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, and that is true. That's very and that's a
really good idea. You know. I'm I've been I haven't
downloaded now, I haven't been able to drive around quite
as much. This past week I was up and we
had a tea study tour up in northeast Ohio Lake County,
the nursery production area that we tend to always historically
(07:09):
think about for Ohio. Right, I mean that's you know
when I came, that's the end because of sandy soil.
And I have to admit ron I became soil envs
up there. I mean you just you look and you think,
oh my gosh, if we had that kind of drainage
and if we had the you know, the higher acidity
in the soil, we well, I'm backing away because I
(07:33):
do love where we live, but it is it is
fantastic soil. So last week I was up there this
past week just visiting around, seeing things, learning things, and
so I've kind of got off the mark with the cicadas.
But the big point is as we drive around, as
I'm going to be driving around this coming week, is
just stopping and taking a picture using the Cicada Safari
(07:57):
app and then it just it just uploads with your location.
And I mentioned this before because this isn't just happening
in southern Ohio. This brood goes really far south. And
you know, it's funny when I first even though we're
just at the northern edge of it. I mentioned this
(08:19):
last week, it's actually one of the larger broods. However,
we're not ever sure for you know, exactly where the
edges are on these broods, because you know, we can
only get information every seventeen years. So Cicada Safari was produced,
oh my goodness, well some time ago by doctor Jen
(08:42):
Kritsky and Mount Saint Joe. He's retired, but not really retired, right,
he's still and he literally wrote the book on cicadas.
He actually wrote a book about this brood. And other cicadas.
But he and the IT folks at Mount Saint Joseph
College developed this app easy to use so that when
(09:04):
we get these opportunities to find out exactly where they are.
For example, you're mentioning Sims Township, you're mentioning where all
blue ash. Well, if you go back and look at
the historical records, there were reports in that general vicinity.
But then how far north you see where I'm heading,
how far north or how far west? Because now you're
(09:27):
getting very close to what has historically been the edge,
and you know, I'm hearing reports and trying to get
people to report it to, you know, on Circasa Safari
of it being a little further west than what I
remembered in two thousand and eight when this brood last
emerged and emerged. And that's that's the key I just said,
(09:48):
exactly what I just said, exactly what the challenge is.
I kind of remember them being well, you know, I
can't remember clearly things that happen and last week right
correct or maybe earlier in the day. So so that's
where things that's where we really do need listeners help.
(10:10):
We really do need your help and taking the time
to report these. It's easy to do. It's an easy
app to use, and that could be hugely helpful for
the future.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What is that noise?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm here and were either.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hum You can usually tell me, don't You can usually
tell what's what type they are, can't you?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know that is true? That is true? Now, that's
the question. They weren't singing yet over at your mom's
house where.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They were singing at any of the stops yesterday. But
then somebody said in Lovelin there was a pocket where
they were starting to make noises. So but no, there
was no noise at all, but they were there, and
I think, you know what, And we got to take
a break. But every stop that I had and I
just happened to look and just make see if this
cicadas were out, I saw, and maybe it's just a coincidence,
(11:04):
four or five that were on the side of the
tree that were deformed. And I saw that at about
every stop that I could find a few that were deformed,
which I thought was kind of And we found one
at the nursery yesterday, one on the side of a
tree and it was on a buck I saw. I
smashed it, no, but he was deformed, and I started
(11:28):
looking as I stopped, and I could find him at
all the stops. Anyway, quick break, We come back with
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Speaker 1 (13:06):
Welcome back time for part two of the Buggy Joe
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Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that's so there's going to be a report maybe today,
maybe Monday, about yellow poplars that that we're really seeing
some strange thing happening, a strange things happening, not in
our region so much. Ron, Although I hate to tell
you this, I'm going to say this and hopefully nobody's listening.
When I said I kind of wish it was so
(13:41):
I could get pictures. But but this is happening more
in the eastern Prita State, and in West Virginia, and
and and frankly, quite a wide area where it looks
like the trees are not leafing out, and in some
cases they may not be leafing out because the region
that I'm talking about, Uh, a little a little quiz
(14:02):
on what do we remember what what happened in the
eastern Ohio. We had some of it in West Virginia
that we were just talking about almost every week late
last season, early in the season. It just built through
the season. What Joe, giant, A giant drought. I mean,
(14:25):
this was a this was a record breaking drought. I
know Ron Roethlis was really paying close attention to it
because we got to we we got to levels of
drought that are very rare. I mean, it was almost
spontaneous combustion. The joke, I'm sorry that was so Tulip trees,
(14:47):
yellow poplar, uh, you know, the same tree, tulip poplar,
all three names applied to the same tree. Uh. As
you know, they're they're not they're very sensitive to drought,
and they're very sensitive to high temperatures and low soil. Moisture,
they just start, you know, well, you start turning yellow
and dropping. You and I've talked about this for years.
(15:09):
They're always the first indicator when you're really dry, right ye,
So so last year, you know, this is an area
where we have a lot of tulip popplers and uh
and also at the same time there is a weavil
and it's called the yellow I'm sorry, I should let
(15:30):
you guess. Now there's a name given to them. And
I you know this we talked about before you'll hear
the flying ticks, and both you and I have talked
about now they don't look like ticks. They really don't
came from they don't at all. They're not even the
same size. They're you know, they're they're kind of I
mean they're round it they're not flat and a rate.
(15:52):
So uh So, in the same area last year, we're
very high numbers of yellow popular weavil. Now they overwinter
as adults. So right now, and I got some pictures
yesterday showing that a severe damage on the newly expanding
(16:13):
I mean, these leaves weren't even able to expand before.
These weavils were really nailing them. So so the trees
were not dead. The leaves just were getting they were
getting hammered before they could even fully expand. Now does
that mean the trees in trouble? Well, if that, if
that continues, obviously it would be. But this is an
(16:34):
overwintering stage where the adults come out, they feed pretty heavily,
they lay their eggs, and then their larvae. The immatures
develop as leaf miners, and this is where it gets
to be a little bit complicated. You can find the
feeding damage looks a little half moonish, you know, sort
(16:54):
of like sort of like holes that are that are
half round, what's the word looking for it. They're kind
of between crescent shape and half round, very small. I
like the half mow half I just I bet you'll
also see the same damage on magnolia and on sassafras,
(17:17):
which is kind of interesting. And you will find the
leaf mines on magnolia and sassafras as well as tulip trees,
so three hosts. Well, the adults that then emerged from
those leaf mines later in the summer typically are higher
in number, and so we see a second round of
(17:39):
damage now in between hopefully the tree has a chance
to refoliate and we see that a lot. You and
I have talked about this on the show, that if
we get early season of foliation, if the tree has
enough energy stored from last year, they can produce another
flush of leaves. However, our concern is what happened last.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Year rout roud.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, so we're we're pretty concerned about this. And then
you get maybe uh maybe another almost a double triple
whamm me, I guess I should say, because we're also
picking up on a a soft scale, uh that that
occurs on tulip trees primarily and uh and also on
(18:27):
a little bit on magnolia.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
So it's a soft scale on yellow poplars and gosh,
I can't think of the common name ron. You may
have to help me out there a soft.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Scale on you, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's not the buckeye scale, is it? And it just
makes something up? Now go ahead, okay, yellow poplar scale?
What yes, I tell you we were really creative in
the entomology world. But any rate, So that is a
sucking insect that pulls out sap, right, pulls out sap
(19:03):
from the from the flow them. So we see we
also see some evidence of that scale cranking back up again.
We see in the pictures you could see the over
wintering stage of that scale. So the bottom line is
we do need to keep a close watch on what's
happening with hula poplars. That's going to be a big
(19:24):
old posts And I hate to use that title what's
going on with toul trees, but that's how I'm going
to title it, because it's something we need to keep
an eye on real quick.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
On the magnolias, you know, I think I've seen that
mostly on sweep Bay. Yeah, you get on other ones
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It does. It does both native and non native magnolias.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Interesting, Buggy Joe Bogs always a pleasure. I appreciate all
the posts. And again the website is pygl dot OSU
dot e d U have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You have a great weekend, Ron take care right.
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Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Again
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It is time now for the Buggy Joe Bobs your port,
mister Joe Bobbs, This says a professor, commercial j educator.
Then your last a Universe extension O is your Department
of Entomology, poster boy for the O issue Extension, co
(00:21):
creator of Matra Coffee and Porum where every cup Buggy Joe,
his boldest king of door gets smoothest. Mathra Silkie Wings Website,
b Y g L dot O SU dot E d U,
Ladies and gentlemen, Mister common sensical and ready to get
off the schneid, Buggy Joe bug.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Man, I'm getting off the schneid and starting and going
back to posting some big alerts.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Have you Have you heard that? I guess you've heard
that expression before. No, get off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I never I was listening to I mean I was
off this night.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I never heard that's legit when I went online
and it's A. It's a saying for all kinds of things.
Get off the schneid that Gary Salmon, he is so
full of information. I'm full of uh information.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's a it's incredible and just what's gonna you know,
what's gonna? What are we gonna learn next? In fact,
we probably should just get right back and and and
listen to his wisdom some more.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Talk more so? Did you get that front at your
home last night?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know that was remarkable? Yes? And no it kind
of split. I mean that's a that's a very strange thing,
that that that that we sometimes see. And I think
you and I even talked about this, you know, you
and Gary and I sort of we're sort of lined
up in a way east west right kind of sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm the farthest west from you guys. Danny's in the
same line.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh was that right? So you probably got a pretty
It probably called you to get off your schneide to
see what was going on?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Right, Yeah, yes, it did, ye off side?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But any rate it? Uh well, it's interesting now I
claim that, and I think I'm right about this. Uh it.
You know, these storms have been have been splitting. You know,
I put an apple on this. It's got kind of
a shield in the app and I think it's shielding us,
you know, from this happening.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Huh, that's that's crazy. I was in touch with yesterday,
thank you, Joe Joe Strecker who lives down this would
be south of our pattern, and he was getting a
little bit of lightning and thunder, but they got nothing
but a little drizzle.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, it's interesting. I thought that that we heard
earlier in the day things are gonna be a little
rougher further south, right, Yeah, well you know when it started. Yeah,
and but you know, we got things first, and so
I truthfully wasn't paying attention at all. I was I
was actually looking up some information on yellow poplar, which
(03:09):
we'll get to in a minute when went, you know,
just because of curiosity, and also because I'm going to
be post I'm going to go back to posting big
old alerts. I've kind of been off that cycle because
of trying to get fact sheets done. I know that
sounds kind of stranger, and the listeners, well, what in
the heck's he talking about? Well you always talk about,
(03:30):
you know, the big old buckeye yard and garden line,
and that's where we post, you know, things that are happening.
We try to hopefully have things that are happening right now.
You know that what we're observing. But then universities also
have these publications called fact sheets, and they're intended to
(03:51):
be I hate to use the word static, but that's true.
They're updated every so often, but they provide a lot
of background information and rob you know this, A lot
of my legal alerts I get to be rather long
when we talk about the life cycle of things. We
talk about some general things because I have to put
that in there. But the idea over the last little
(04:13):
bit has been to really work hard on getting the
fact sheets posted so I can refer to them. And
for example, you and I talked about the cicada fact
sheet that was updated. There had been one published in
twenty seventeen, and so now as the brood is emerging
in southern Ohio, people can then reference that. And then
(04:36):
all I need to do is just reference the fact
sheet when I do reports Friday or yesterday, yesterday? What
day is this? Yesterday? I submitted a fact sheet on
soil testing. It's an update, and I think you'll find
it's a much more useful update because we do some
diagnostics in there too, and there again instead of you know,
(05:00):
in a big old alert talking about you know, symptoms
produced by a nutrient deficiency, we can talk about that,
but then when we talk about getting the soil tested,
I don't need to repeat everything. So that's that's kind
of you know, where things have been recently the reason
why I bring that up. But I've actually gotten some emails,
(05:22):
you know, have you stopped, you know, posting big old
alerts and new and you announced it, and uh, I
just thought I'd better lead off with no, the alert.
My alerts aren't dead. Other people are posting alerts, and
that's something to remember because there are a group of
us that are involved in this, the whole team. And
(05:43):
so it's just I'm just taking a little pause while
I get some background stuff posted. Does that make good sense?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Along with the ever lovely Amy Stone.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes, Amy Stone, and and Pam Bennett and and never
lovely Pam Bennett and then Eric Draper, which we're not
sure about.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That I wouldn't love either way. I was out and
about yesterday and uh, cicadas are out and about and yeah,
saw them in blue Ash, saw them in simms township,
saw them in Claremont County, believe it or not, Batavia,
and that's yep. Yeah, and really it's on there. My
(06:24):
mom's got them big time in Sims Township and also
saw them Inmorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So now you can you can lie to me every
place you stopped. I reported it a photo and reported
it on Cicadas Safari. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, but I asked, I asked the homeowners to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, and that is true. That's very and that's a
really good idea. You know. I'm I've been I haven't
downloaded now, I haven't been able to drive around quite
as much. This past week I was up and we
had a tea study tour up in northeast Ohio Lake County,
the nursery production area that we tend to always historically
(07:09):
think about for Ohio. Right, I mean that's you know
when I came, that's the end because of sandy soil.
And I have to admit ron I became soil envs
up there. I mean you just you look and you think,
oh my gosh, if we had that kind of drainage
and if we had the you know, the higher acidity
in the soil, we well, I'm backing away because I
(07:33):
do love where we live, but it is it is
fantastic soil. So last week I was up there this
past week just visiting around, seeing things, learning things, and
so I've kind of got off the mark with the cicadas.
But the big point is as we drive around, as
I'm going to be driving around this coming week, is
just stopping and taking a picture using the Cicada Safari
(07:57):
app and then it just it just uploads with your location.
And I mentioned this before because this isn't just happening
in southern Ohio. This brood goes really far south. And
you know, it's funny when I first even though we're
just at the northern edge of it. I mentioned this
(08:19):
last week, it's actually one of the larger broods. However,
we're not ever sure for you know, exactly where the
edges are on these broods, because you know, we can
only get information every seventeen years. So Cicada Safari was produced,
oh my goodness, well some time ago by doctor Jen
(08:42):
Kritsky and Mount Saint Joe. He's retired, but not really retired, right,
he's still and he literally wrote the book on cicadas.
He actually wrote a book about this brood. And other cicadas.
But he and the IT folks at Mount Saint Joseph
College developed this app easy to use so that when
(09:04):
we get these opportunities to find out exactly where they are.
For example, you're mentioning Sims Township, you're mentioning where all
blue ash. Well, if you go back and look at
the historical records, there were reports in that general vicinity.
But then how far north you see where I'm heading,
how far north or how far west? Because now you're
(09:27):
getting very close to what has historically been the edge,
and you know, I'm hearing reports and trying to get
people to report it to, you know, on Circasa Safari
of it being a little further west than what I
remembered in two thousand and eight when this brood last
emerged and emerged. And that's that's the key I just said,
(09:48):
exactly what I just said, exactly what the challenge is.
I kind of remember them being well, you know, I
can't remember clearly things that happen and last week right
correct or maybe earlier in the day. So so that's
where things that's where we really do need listeners help.
(10:10):
We really do need your help and taking the time
to report these. It's easy to do. It's an easy
app to use, and that could be hugely helpful for
the future.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What is that noise?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm here and were either.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hum You can usually tell me, don't You can usually
tell what's what type they are, can't you?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know that is true? That is true? Now, that's
the question. They weren't singing yet over at your mom's
house where.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They were singing at any of the stops yesterday. But
then somebody said in Lovelin there was a pocket where
they were starting to make noises. So but no, there
was no noise at all, but they were there, and
I think, you know what, And we got to take
a break. But every stop that I had and I
just happened to look and just make see if this
cicadas were out, I saw, and maybe it's just a coincidence,
(11:04):
four or five that were on the side of the
tree that were deformed. And I saw that at about
every stop that I could find a few that were deformed,
which I thought was kind of And we found one
at the nursery yesterday, one on the side of a
tree and it was on a buck I saw. I
smashed it, no, but he was deformed, and I started
(11:28):
looking as I stopped, and I could find him at
all the stops. Anyway, quick break, We come back with
talk More with Buggy Joe Box. Don't forget the website
byg All dot O s U. It's all happening here
in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Welcome back time for part two of the Buggy Joe
Boggs Report. Mister Joe Boggs, I wish you extension website
b y g L dot O s U dot E
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Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that's so there's going to be a report maybe today,
maybe Monday, about yellow poplars that that we're really seeing
some strange thing happening, a strange things happening, not in
our region so much. Ron, Although I hate to tell
you this, I'm going to say this and hopefully nobody's listening.
When I said I kind of wish it was so
(13:41):
I could get pictures. But but this is happening more
in the eastern Prita State, and in West Virginia, and
and and frankly, quite a wide area where it looks
like the trees are not leafing out, and in some
cases they may not be leafing out because the region
that I'm talking about, Uh, a little a little quiz
(14:02):
on what do we remember what what happened in the
eastern Ohio. We had some of it in West Virginia
that we were just talking about almost every week late
last season, early in the season. It just built through
the season. What Joe, giant, A giant drought. I mean,
(14:25):
this was a this was a record breaking drought. I
know Ron Roethlis was really paying close attention to it
because we got to we we got to levels of
drought that are very rare. I mean, it was almost
spontaneous combustion. The joke, I'm sorry that was so Tulip trees,
(14:47):
yellow poplar, uh, you know, the same tree, tulip poplar,
all three names applied to the same tree. Uh. As
you know, they're they're not they're very sensitive to drought,
and they're very sensitive to high temperatures and low soil. Moisture,
they just start, you know, well, you start turning yellow
and dropping. You and I've talked about this for years.
(15:09):
They're always the first indicator when you're really dry, right ye,
So so last year, you know, this is an area
where we have a lot of tulip popplers and uh
and also at the same time there is a weavil
and it's called the yellow I'm sorry, I should let
(15:30):
you guess. Now there's a name given to them. And
I you know this we talked about before you'll hear
the flying ticks, and both you and I have talked
about now they don't look like ticks. They really don't
came from they don't at all. They're not even the
same size. They're you know, they're they're kind of I
mean they're round it they're not flat and a rate.
(15:52):
So uh So, in the same area last year, we're
very high numbers of yellow popular weavil. Now they overwinter
as adults. So right now, and I got some pictures
yesterday showing that a severe damage on the newly expanding
(16:13):
I mean, these leaves weren't even able to expand before.
These weavils were really nailing them. So so the trees
were not dead. The leaves just were getting they were
getting hammered before they could even fully expand. Now does
that mean the trees in trouble? Well, if that, if
that continues, obviously it would be. But this is an
(16:34):
overwintering stage where the adults come out, they feed pretty heavily,
they lay their eggs, and then their larvae. The immatures
develop as leaf miners, and this is where it gets
to be a little bit complicated. You can find the
feeding damage looks a little half moonish, you know, sort
(16:54):
of like sort of like holes that are that are
half round, what's the word looking for it. They're kind
of between crescent shape and half round, very small. I
like the half mow half I just I bet you'll
also see the same damage on magnolia and on sassafras,
(17:17):
which is kind of interesting. And you will find the
leaf mines on magnolia and sassafras as well as tulip trees,
so three hosts. Well, the adults that then emerged from
those leaf mines later in the summer typically are higher
in number, and so we see a second round of
(17:39):
damage now in between hopefully the tree has a chance
to refoliate and we see that a lot. You and
I have talked about this on the show, that if
we get early season of foliation, if the tree has
enough energy stored from last year, they can produce another
flush of leaves. However, our concern is what happened last.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Year rout roud.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, so we're we're pretty concerned about this. And then
you get maybe uh maybe another almost a double triple
whamm me, I guess I should say, because we're also
picking up on a a soft scale, uh that that
occurs on tulip trees primarily and uh and also on
(18:27):
a little bit on magnolia.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
So it's a soft scale on yellow poplars and gosh,
I can't think of the common name ron. You may
have to help me out there a soft.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Scale on you, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's not the buckeye scale, is it? And it just
makes something up? Now go ahead, okay, yellow poplar scale?
What yes, I tell you we were really creative in
the entomology world. But any rate, So that is a
sucking insect that pulls out sap, right, pulls out sap
(19:03):
from the from the flow them. So we see we
also see some evidence of that scale cranking back up again.
We see in the pictures you could see the over
wintering stage of that scale. So the bottom line is
we do need to keep a close watch on what's
happening with hula poplars. That's going to be a big
(19:24):
old posts And I hate to use that title what's
going on with toul trees, but that's how I'm going
to title it, because it's something we need to keep
an eye on real quick.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
On the magnolias, you know, I think I've seen that
mostly on sweep Bay. Yeah, you get on other ones
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It does. It does both native and non native magnolias.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Interesting, Buggy Joe Bogs always a pleasure. I appreciate all
the posts. And again the website is pygl dot OSU
dot e d U have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You have a great weekend, Ron take care right.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Thanks to all of our colors, thanks our sponsors, Thanks
of course to Danny Gleasee in our producer, because without
Danny Gleeson, none of this stuff would happen. So Danny,
thank you so much for all that you do to
make it all work. Now do yourself a favor. Still
plenty of time to get out there and plant a
tree or two or three. Key planting those data plants,
native selections, native ours, be ee friendly, pollinat or polite,
(20:17):
Pamper your worms, get the kids and dogs involved with gardening,
and by all means, make it the best weekend of
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