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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Is
time for Oh are you ready for this? The Bucky
Joe Boggs and Joe Boggses says a professor commercial order
for your house State University Extension Away is your department
Atomology post a boy for Early two Extensions, co creator
Mantha Coffee and for hum. Their website happens to be
b yg l dot os U dot Eedu Ladies and
gentleman a common centscal himself Buggy Joe Baggs. Come on,
(00:28):
come on, let's give it up. Let's give it up
for Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know what's going on here on.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
There we go, There we go.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's the that's the right button. Yeah, tell you the
crickets though, I mean that that could be appropriate depending
on what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
If I counted those how many crickets? How many times?
In forty seconds plus thirty I get the temperature?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah that's right, you know, two three four? Yeah, what
I think it's forty degrees in the studio. Oh my gosh,
I'll tell you. Well, you know there is there that
that actually does work out, unlike later in the season
(01:22):
when Wooly Bears start coming out right and we and we.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Start, uh, what's not to do with bears?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, you know there's some of these things that people
you know, will report that have you know, scientific veracity.
There are other things that well, it just it just
they're just great stories, right, So wooly Bears, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And the h Yeah you run that one for all
of us.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know I did, didn't. That's terrible. But you know,
other things though, that we come across. Well, I'm just
talking about, for example, this this past this past week,
getting out and about and taking a look at things
and finding all kinds of different interesting things that that
(02:10):
you start saying things like, well if I got if
I got four inches of rain in an hour, you know,
I might not have to mow because my lawn just
got washed away. I'd you like that?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, washed away. Yeah, you're right, it got washed away.
You know, seriously, I I am amazed. But when I
was hearing Gary talk about that we got we because
you point us out before, and I think it's kind
of neat. You and I and Gary almost live in
a line, don't we, I mean west the east, And
so you know, since our weather tends to go west
(02:46):
the east, we tend to have the same the same things.
But I only got brushed slightly by by that rain
last night.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was one of those odd things where you're sitting
there and all of a sudden you hear it outside
and I kind of wasn't expecting ring. And at first
I didn't know what. I knew the sound but didn't
I didn't put it together right off the bath, like,
what in the world is that? But then, as you
just said, he said, you know, the later the late
(03:14):
news indicated that there were some substantial downpours. But I
think we all three kind of experienced a little different.
And I and and talking about Joe Strucker having a
dry area and all that, this is going to really
be a difficult thing in the future for us to
put together. You know why some people have a problem
(03:38):
with newly planted trees or shrubs others don't you see,
I'm heading it's just this different.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, the spotty Ron Roethlis texted me when when he
said that about Joe Strucker, and he said, I'm not
that far from Joe, and I've got three and a
half intches so far this month.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, it's been incredible. Yeah, and you can sometimes see it,
you know, yesterday there was a line that went below us.
I went out on the front portion and looked, and
you know, he was looking south and it was just
it was black on the you know, as you look south. Yes,
it was just it was it looked you could tell
(04:17):
it was was really stormy, just not very far south.
And of course you could see it on the radar,
which you know, you and I are old enough to
recall when when people would say see it on the radar, right,
you were probably in a plane or on a ship.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, radar, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just thought of that. I'm sorry I got I
drifted in a different direction there, but but it is
amazing to me that that we are experiencing such a
tight gradient, you know, in in rainfall and my own landscape,
you know. Actually, actually I was happy to get that
(04:59):
rain day evening. The lawn has been doing pretty good,
and brown patch has been doing great. You've probably noticed that.
Did I take witches?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did I tell you about that? Last week? I was
at a traffic light. I was looking, yeah, but the
sprinkler's going.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No. What happened?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I stopped the lawn looked pretty good. It was
a very nice, well manicured lawn, but you can see
the brown patch starting to show up in the in
the lawn well in both corners of the of the lawn.
They had their sprinklers.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Going, oh in the mid day and.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It was about eleven thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Perfect. So it had to be a plant pathologist that
works in turk grass, right. They were just.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Said, I should take a picture of this for Joe
and put make sure the time's on. Make sure the
time is on this, so you know what time during
the day this irrigation was running on this lawn with
brown patch.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So that that is perfect. You know I need to
I mean, what do you think right away?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean your long starts to brown out. What's the
first thing? You think? I need water?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, that's true, that's true. You think you're getting dry patches.
That's a very good point. You know, I need to
drift into something that you and I have talked about
it in the past. You know, I've talked about it
quite a lot in the past, and this idea of
this disease triangle, because right now there are a number
of diseases showing up apple scab on crab apples. My gosh,
(06:28):
if i've over the last two three weeks, how many
emails have you gotten?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My ton and oh my goodness. And then of course
why do I spray? You know as well you might
want to mark down next year. But even under these
environmental conditions, I'm not sure a person can spray their
way out of it. And and that, and to teach
this again, we refer to the disease triangle where if
(06:56):
you can picture, if your listeners can picture, one side
of the triangle is the environment. You have to have
an environment that's supportive of infection, and that's that's very,
very important. The other side of the triangle is you
have to have a host that is susceptible. And then
finally you have to have the pathogen present. So if
(07:19):
you can picture your mind, this triangle environment post pathogen,
And here's what's the neat thing to me I've always
thought about the disease triangle is that if you knock
out any one of those sides, just one, you take
away the host. For example, the susceptible host. You can
have crab apples that are resistant to apple scab, So
(07:41):
you knock out one side of the triangle, there's no
disease development. And so my brand patch in my lawn
is associated with two things. One is that it is
a type of tall rescue that's obviously susceptible. The second, though,
is that we're having this environment you just pointed out perfectly,
(08:03):
and that is that in the afternoon. As much as
I'm appreciating this year having rain as opposed to last year, right,
I mean at this time last year, we were very worried,
right just you know, we had southern California weather. But
this year, I'm happy to have the rain. But when
it does come in, you know the one o'clock, two o'clock,
(08:27):
and then you know it's already hot. And then right
after the rain, you know, the temperatures rise, the humidity rises. Well,
brown patch, the fungus which is there, I mean it
was there from previous years. The spores were there, so
they could it was already there, raty to take off.
And honestly, I don't know if I had the best
(08:50):
sprayer in the world, I'm not too sure a fungicide
would have gotten ahead of the environment. So that's important
for people to keep in mind. And by the way,
too talk about this a lot. Once you see the
symptoms of a fungal disease, it's too late because infections
already inside the plant, and infections already occurred inside the planet,
(09:12):
I should say. And we really don't have fungicides that
work like our insecticides that we call systemics. You know,
there are some fungicides that kind of work that way,
some for you know, for trees, that kind of work
that way, but not quite as effectively. So once you
see the symptoms, well it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Too late, Buggy Joe Boggs valuable information. Before we take
a break, I'm going to throw this out of you
to trivia question. All right, don't use your don't use
your computer to find the answer.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right, I've got my employise.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I'm ready to bring the break to convert cricket chirps
to degrees fahrenheit. The old thing was count the number
of chirps in fourteen seconds and add there's a name
for that. There's a name for that process. What's it called.
We'll take a break and bugget Joe Boggs will give
us the answer. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson
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Speaker 1 (11:35):
Welcome back. You're in the Grinden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs the System Universe Extension. By the way, their
website is bygl dot O su dot e du. Do
you have an answer, mister.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Boggs, I cheated. I had to cheat. I had Now
this is every time, every week there's a little bit
of a tidbit that we both want, right, I mean,
you come away. It's so hold fourth roun. I had
never heard of what this was called before.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, I hadn't either to I be honest with until
this past week, and I had looked at ard and
it's called doll Bear's law.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah. I mean you think as an entomologist that would
be something and I never so hold forth. It's really
a neat story.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, it is an interesting story. I came up with it,
and you can also he has the formula for Celsius
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's true. It's true for the crickets in Europe. Yeah,
crickets in Europe. I mean I have to do it
there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
By the way, I signed you up for that edible
insect class.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
No mark that down, please, I have a previous commitment.
So yeah, Doe Bear's law, I didn't Amos doebear, And
that's a I didn't know. And back in the eighteen hundreds,
it's not like something new. Eighteen ninety seven it said
(13:05):
and look at this, you know, and it was they're
thinking the tree cricket. See, that's important because every cricket,
you know, just like you know cicadas. You know, I
posted an alert about dog day cicadas we commonly call them,
but we should call them annual cicadas. And how they
(13:26):
all have a different song, so you can you can
identify the species based on the song. Well, it's the
same with crickets. So that's kind of important, you know.
It's important that that we have the right cricket, particular kind,
that you have the right cricket. Yeah, so I need
to dig into that a little bit because I have
(13:48):
a feeling, you know, this Amos Dollbear, you know, maybe
his brother Amos Moses, you know, has a different.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah song, one hundred out of games for a living,
he just knock them in the head with a stomp.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I knew you. Oh me, yep, Yeah, this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
This is terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I kind of figured that, you know that Jerry Reid
comes out right. I'll me, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I don't know what else you wanted to talk about today.
I just want to mention real quick. On our website,
we have the we have some of the postings from
this week, but I like the one about stop the seeds.
Uh carry put that one together, and I think, you know,
it's a great point.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Did a great job, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
About you know, how how much they can affect you
after they flower if you let them. And I thought
the giant rag wee was was interesting. Ten thousand, three
hundred seeds per plant.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's amazing, isn't it. Yeah, it's amazing. It is amazing. Well,
and that's the reason, you know, you and I talked
always about I mean, we've talked about poison hemlock how
many times, and we've talked about it's you know, the really,
in my opinion, slightly scarier, maybe much scarier, wild parsonip.
(15:12):
And I was just visiting a park just last week,
and the wild parsonip seed is it's there, it's ready
to go. And of course there aren't quite as many
seeds on that plant as poison hemlock. So back to that,
You and I've talked about that numerous times that if
we let these weeds go so well, I'll do something
(15:33):
about next year. Well next year, as Carrie pointed out,
and she did a great job, and she showed a
lot of different weeds. Yes, you know that we that
we fight and you let it go till next year,
and then of course you've lost the battle literally because
you went from just a very small number to a
whole army. I'll tell you that the Canada thistle I
(15:58):
had the experience this year is.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Going to bring that one up, because that just that
those stats blew meal out.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, you see it whenever you're walking around. And of
course this year we had a pretty we even talked
about it, We had a pretty heavy cottonwood fluff event
that house to say it, the cottonwoods really really produced
a lot of fluff this year. And of course you
and I saw pictures, there were some posted that look horrendous,
(16:26):
but that's at a at a certain time, a little
a little later when there shouldn't have been any cottonwood.
I was in a local park and and all this
fluff was flying around At first, I was like, oh
my goodness, I mean, could there be some trees that
that kind of got, you know, kind of was delayed
a little bit, you know, a little cottonwood. But as
(16:47):
I got closer to the source, it turned out it
was not a very large patch of Canada thistle, and
that seed was just blowing around to beat the band.
And as you said, the number of seas are are
just outrageous, and of course we had. We can't forget
when Canada thistle, when it gets started, it starts producing
(17:09):
underground rhizomes and so you see a it's literally called
a colony. It makes it impossible to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I had done some research on this and and and
correct me if I'm wrong, but I read in several
things that that a a the root from a Canada
thistle with no foliage on top could last up to
ninety to one hundred days with no foliage.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, that's really interesting. I'm not going to correct
you because that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The rhomes they just stay there and then ninety days later,
all of a sudden pop up. But I think the
other thing behind us, she Sho was talking about up
to you know, five thousand seeds per plant. But I
think what's even more interesting we don't think about is
that it says when they were buried one to three
inches in the soil, forty five to sixty percent germanates
the first year, but less Yeah, but less than one
(18:00):
one percent survives after three to five years. So the
viability isn't all that long. But when buried at greater
depths in the soil left undisturbed, Canada thistle seeds have
been found to be viable for up to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's and we call that the seed bank.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, and we're all you tell something up that hasn't
been tilled in thirty years, and all of a sudden
this stuff pops up, and it's like, where did that
come from? Surprise?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, and that's unfortunate with with top soil. I mean,
you and I recommend this quite a lot when someone's
really dealing, particularly if you bought, if you bought a home,
and let's just say that during the grading and all that,
you know everything, you're sitting on subsoil, and so you
and I would recommend that people where you're gonna have
to buy top soil, you know you're gonna have to
(18:48):
bring it in, you know, go to yard sale or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Cereal, Yeah, yard by.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And by and by topsoil, but you know top soil
there there are no regulations governing what is topsail. It's
just the soil on top and unfortunately, you know there
should be. I mean, if you have and I should
say reputable sellers won't do this, right, Ron, We have
some great topsail top topsoil cellars. But at the end
(19:22):
of the day, sometimes you do get weeds weed seed
because that soil wherever it was harvested, had we's and
you're exactly right, and they may not pop up immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, no doubts. I don't know if you noticed, but
our plant pick of the week this week will came
from both you and Ron Rothas yours being a compass plant,
Ron's being the Indian Cup. Those are featured plants of
the week this week.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So there you go, outstanding buggy.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Is
time for Oh are you ready for this? The Bucky
Joe Boggs and Joe Boggses says a professor commercial order
for your house State University Extension Away is your department
Atomology post a boy for Early two Extensions, co creator
Mantha Coffee and for hum. Their website happens to be
b yg l dot os U dot Eedu Ladies and
gentleman a common centscal himself Buggy Joe Baggs. Come on,
(00:28):
come on, let's give it up. Let's give it up
for Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know what's going on here on.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
There we go, There we go.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's the that's the right button. Yeah, tell you the
crickets though, I mean that that could be appropriate depending
on what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
If I counted those how many crickets? How many times?
In forty seconds plus thirty I get the temperature?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah that's right, you know, two three four? Yeah, what
I think it's forty degrees in the studio. Oh my gosh,
I'll tell you. Well, you know there is there that
that actually does work out, unlike later in the season
(01:22):
when Wooly Bears start coming out right and we and we.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Start, uh, what's not to do with bears?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, you know there's some of these things that people
you know, will report that have you know, scientific veracity.
There are other things that well, it just it just
they're just great stories, right, So wooly Bears, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And the h Yeah you run that one for all
of us.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know I did, didn't. That's terrible. But you know,
other things though, that we come across. Well, I'm just
talking about, for example, this this past this past week,
getting out and about and taking a look at things
and finding all kinds of different interesting things that that
(02:10):
you start saying things like, well if I got if
I got four inches of rain in an hour, you know,
I might not have to mow because my lawn just
got washed away. I'd you like that?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, washed away. Yeah, you're right, it got washed away.
You know, seriously, I I am amazed. But when I
was hearing Gary talk about that we got we because
you point us out before, and I think it's kind
of neat. You and I and Gary almost live in
a line, don't we, I mean west the east, And
so you know, since our weather tends to go west
(02:46):
the east, we tend to have the same the same things.
But I only got brushed slightly by by that rain
last night.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was one of those odd things where you're sitting
there and all of a sudden you hear it outside
and I kind of wasn't expecting ring. And at first
I didn't know what. I knew the sound but didn't
I didn't put it together right off the bath, like,
what in the world is that? But then, as you
just said, he said, you know, the later the late
(03:14):
news indicated that there were some substantial downpours. But I
think we all three kind of experienced a little different.
And I and and talking about Joe Strucker having a
dry area and all that, this is going to really
be a difficult thing in the future for us to
put together. You know why some people have a problem
(03:38):
with newly planted trees or shrubs others don't you see,
I'm heading it's just this different.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, the spotty Ron Roethlis texted me when when he
said that about Joe Strucker, and he said, I'm not
that far from Joe, and I've got three and a
half intches so far this month.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, it's been incredible. Yeah, and you can sometimes see it,
you know, yesterday there was a line that went below us.
I went out on the front portion and looked, and
you know, he was looking south and it was just
it was black on the you know, as you look south. Yes,
it was just it was it looked you could tell
(04:17):
it was was really stormy, just not very far south.
And of course you could see it on the radar,
which you know, you and I are old enough to
recall when when people would say see it on the radar, right,
you were probably in a plane or on a ship.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, radar, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just thought of that. I'm sorry I got I
drifted in a different direction there, but but it is
amazing to me that that we are experiencing such a
tight gradient, you know, in in rainfall and my own landscape,
you know. Actually, actually I was happy to get that
(04:59):
rain day evening. The lawn has been doing pretty good,
and brown patch has been doing great. You've probably noticed that.
Did I take witches?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Did I tell you about that? Last week? I was
at a traffic light. I was looking, yeah, but the
sprinkler's going.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No. What happened?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I stopped the lawn looked pretty good. It was
a very nice, well manicured lawn, but you can see
the brown patch starting to show up in the in
the lawn well in both corners of the of the lawn.
They had their sprinklers.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Going, oh in the mid day and.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It was about eleven thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Perfect. So it had to be a plant pathologist that
works in turk grass, right. They were just.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Said, I should take a picture of this for Joe
and put make sure the time's on. Make sure the
time is on this, so you know what time during
the day this irrigation was running on this lawn with
brown patch.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So that that is perfect. You know I need to
I mean, what do you think right away?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean your long starts to brown out. What's the
first thing? You think? I need water?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, that's true, that's true. You think you're getting dry patches.
That's a very good point. You know, I need to
drift into something that you and I have talked about
it in the past. You know, I've talked about it
quite a lot in the past, and this idea of
this disease triangle, because right now there are a number
of diseases showing up apple scab on crab apples. My gosh,
(06:28):
if i've over the last two three weeks, how many
emails have you gotten?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My ton and oh my goodness. And then of course
why do I spray? You know as well you might
want to mark down next year. But even under these
environmental conditions, I'm not sure a person can spray their
way out of it. And and that, and to teach
this again, we refer to the disease triangle where if
(06:56):
you can picture, if your listeners can picture, one side
of the triangle is the environment. You have to have
an environment that's supportive of infection, and that's that's very,
very important. The other side of the triangle is you
have to have a host that is susceptible. And then
finally you have to have the pathogen present. So if
(07:19):
you can picture your mind, this triangle environment post pathogen,
And here's what's the neat thing to me I've always
thought about the disease triangle is that if you knock
out any one of those sides, just one, you take
away the host. For example, the susceptible host. You can
have crab apples that are resistant to apple scab, So
(07:41):
you knock out one side of the triangle, there's no
disease development. And so my brand patch in my lawn
is associated with two things. One is that it is
a type of tall rescue that's obviously susceptible. The second, though,
is that we're having this environment you just pointed out perfectly,
(08:03):
and that is that in the afternoon. As much as
I'm appreciating this year having rain as opposed to last year, right,
I mean at this time last year, we were very worried,
right just you know, we had southern California weather. But
this year, I'm happy to have the rain. But when
it does come in, you know the one o'clock, two o'clock,
(08:27):
and then you know it's already hot. And then right
after the rain, you know, the temperatures rise, the humidity rises. Well,
brown patch, the fungus which is there, I mean it
was there from previous years. The spores were there, so
they could it was already there, raty to take off.
And honestly, I don't know if I had the best
(08:50):
sprayer in the world, I'm not too sure a fungicide
would have gotten ahead of the environment. So that's important
for people to keep in mind. And by the way,
too talk about this a lot. Once you see the
symptoms of a fungal disease, it's too late because infections
already inside the plant, and infections already occurred inside the planet,
(09:12):
I should say. And we really don't have fungicides that
work like our insecticides that we call systemics. You know,
there are some fungicides that kind of work that way,
some for you know, for trees, that kind of work
that way, but not quite as effectively. So once you
see the symptoms, well it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Too late, Buggy Joe Boggs valuable information. Before we take
a break, I'm going to throw this out of you
to trivia question. All right, don't use your don't use
your computer to find the answer.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right, I've got my employise.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I'm ready to bring the break to convert cricket chirps
to degrees fahrenheit. The old thing was count the number
of chirps in fourteen seconds and add there's a name
for that. There's a name for that process. What's it called.
We'll take a break and bugget Joe Boggs will give
us the answer. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson
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Speaker 1 (11:35):
Welcome back. You're in the Grinden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs the System Universe Extension. By the way, their
website is bygl dot O su dot e du. Do
you have an answer, mister.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Boggs, I cheated. I had to cheat. I had Now
this is every time, every week there's a little bit
of a tidbit that we both want, right, I mean,
you come away. It's so hold fourth roun. I had
never heard of what this was called before.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, I hadn't either to I be honest with until
this past week, and I had looked at ard and
it's called doll Bear's law.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah. I mean you think as an entomologist that would
be something and I never so hold forth. It's really
a neat story.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, it is an interesting story. I came up with it,
and you can also he has the formula for Celsius
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's true. It's true for the crickets in Europe. Yeah,
crickets in Europe. I mean I have to do it
there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
By the way, I signed you up for that edible
insect class.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
No mark that down, please, I have a previous commitment.
So yeah, Doe Bear's law, I didn't Amos doebear, And
that's a I didn't know. And back in the eighteen hundreds,
it's not like something new. Eighteen ninety seven it said
(13:05):
and look at this, you know, and it was they're
thinking the tree cricket. See, that's important because every cricket,
you know, just like you know cicadas. You know, I
posted an alert about dog day cicadas we commonly call them,
but we should call them annual cicadas. And how they
(13:26):
all have a different song, so you can you can
identify the species based on the song. Well, it's the
same with crickets. So that's kind of important, you know.
It's important that that we have the right cricket, particular kind,
that you have the right cricket. Yeah, so I need
to dig into that a little bit because I have
(13:48):
a feeling, you know, this Amos Dollbear, you know, maybe
his brother Amos Moses, you know, has a different.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah song, one hundred out of games for a living,
he just knock them in the head with a stomp.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I knew you. Oh me, yep, Yeah, this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
This is terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I kind of figured that, you know that Jerry Reid
comes out right. I'll me, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I don't know what else you wanted to talk about today.
I just want to mention real quick. On our website,
we have the we have some of the postings from
this week, but I like the one about stop the seeds.
Uh carry put that one together, and I think, you know,
it's a great point.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Did a great job, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
About you know, how how much they can affect you
after they flower if you let them. And I thought
the giant rag wee was was interesting. Ten thousand, three
hundred seeds per plant.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's amazing, isn't it. Yeah, it's amazing. It is amazing. Well,
and that's the reason, you know, you and I talked
always about I mean, we've talked about poison hemlock how
many times, and we've talked about it's you know, the really,
in my opinion, slightly scarier, maybe much scarier, wild parsonip.
(15:12):
And I was just visiting a park just last week,
and the wild parsonip seed is it's there, it's ready
to go. And of course there aren't quite as many
seeds on that plant as poison hemlock. So back to that,
You and I've talked about that numerous times that if
we let these weeds go so well, I'll do something
(15:33):
about next year. Well next year, as Carrie pointed out,
and she did a great job, and she showed a
lot of different weeds. Yes, you know that we that
we fight and you let it go till next year,
and then of course you've lost the battle literally because
you went from just a very small number to a
whole army. I'll tell you that the Canada thistle I
(15:58):
had the experience this year is.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Going to bring that one up, because that just that
those stats blew meal out.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, you see it whenever you're walking around. And of
course this year we had a pretty we even talked
about it, We had a pretty heavy cottonwood fluff event
that house to say it, the cottonwoods really really produced
a lot of fluff this year. And of course you
and I saw pictures, there were some posted that look horrendous,
(16:26):
but that's at a at a certain time, a little
a little later when there shouldn't have been any cottonwood.
I was in a local park and and all this
fluff was flying around At first, I was like, oh
my goodness, I mean, could there be some trees that
that kind of got, you know, kind of was delayed
a little bit, you know, a little cottonwood. But as
(16:47):
I got closer to the source, it turned out it
was not a very large patch of Canada thistle, and
that seed was just blowing around to beat the band.
And as you said, the number of seas are are
just outrageous, and of course we had. We can't forget
when Canada thistle, when it gets started, it starts producing
(17:09):
underground rhizomes and so you see a it's literally called
a colony. It makes it impossible to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I had done some research on this and and and
correct me if I'm wrong, but I read in several
things that that a a the root from a Canada
thistle with no foliage on top could last up to
ninety to one hundred days with no foliage.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, that's really interesting. I'm not going to correct
you because that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The rhomes they just stay there and then ninety days later,
all of a sudden pop up. But I think the
other thing behind us, she Sho was talking about up
to you know, five thousand seeds per plant. But I
think what's even more interesting we don't think about is
that it says when they were buried one to three
inches in the soil, forty five to sixty percent germanates
the first year, but less Yeah, but less than one
(18:00):
one percent survives after three to five years. So the
viability isn't all that long. But when buried at greater
depths in the soil left undisturbed, Canada thistle seeds have
been found to be viable for up to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's and we call that the seed bank.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, and we're all you tell something up that hasn't
been tilled in thirty years, and all of a sudden
this stuff pops up, and it's like, where did that
come from? Surprise?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, and that's unfortunate with with top soil. I mean,
you and I recommend this quite a lot when someone's
really dealing, particularly if you bought, if you bought a home,
and let's just say that during the grading and all that,
you know everything, you're sitting on subsoil, and so you
and I would recommend that people where you're gonna have
to buy top soil, you know you're gonna have to
(18:48):
bring it in, you know, go to yard sale or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Cereal, Yeah, yard by.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And by and by topsoil, but you know top soil
there there are no regulations governing what is topsail. It's
just the soil on top and unfortunately, you know there
should be. I mean, if you have and I should
say reputable sellers won't do this, right, Ron, We have
some great topsail top topsoil cellars. But at the end
(19:22):
of the day, sometimes you do get weeds weed seed
because that soil wherever it was harvested, had we's and
you're exactly right, and they may not pop up immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, no doubts. I don't know if you noticed, but
our plant pick of the week this week will came
from both you and Ron Rothas yours being a compass plant,
Ron's being the Indian Cup. Those are featured plants of
the week this week.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So there you go, outstanding buggy.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I know you're on vacation next week, so I'll have
a great vacation. We'll talk to you in a couple
of weeks. You take care right, thanks to all of
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or three. This fall falls a great time for planting trees,
(20:13):
especially where you're gonna plant more trees. Keep planting those
native plants and native selections. Pamper your worms, get the
kids and dogs involved with gardening. Be friendly, pollinator, polite,
support your local beekeepers, and make you the best weekend
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