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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We may not always agree, but we can agree on
one thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fifty five KRC is the talkstation.
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Here is your ninth first yardening forecast Today Sonny Pleasant,
Highest seventy two Tonight, the forty four on Sunday, Sonny Pleasant,
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and his time
for the man that just shares so much bug and
disease and just great information. It's just well, we're just
so blessed to have this young man with us on
our show. Young jeez already laughing. I haven't said anything yet.
It's time for the body. Joe Bobs, Joe Boggs. This
(00:52):
says a professor Commercial Orders for the Ohis State University Extension, OHI,
a Department of Tomology poster boy for OSUE Extension website
bygl dotsut you, ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself,
Buggy Joe Bugs.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Two things before we get started.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
All right, let's just launch into it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Are you ready? We triggered stuff with the spider conversation
over the last couple of weeks. And by the way,
that's that spider that the beagle with the spider stuff
is great And Joe Strucker didn't get a posted this week.
We'll have it up next week. Great information there, so
we'll have that for everybody next week. But then you spurred,
(01:38):
of course a lot of our listeners sending in pictures
of their spiders. What are you talking about, you don't
have spiders. Well we got some spiders. Mary from Mary
from Cola Raine sent a picture of that huge garden spider,
and of course that was a great on because it
had the little Z pattern right below it, which was outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
That was a beautiful picture, it really was.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And whatever it caught there has got it all wrapped
up and getting ready to do whatever with it. So
we thank Mary for that. And the other one I
thought was pretty interesting was kind of gave me goosebumps
a bit was from uh Simon, and Simon said, I
think you guys changed me talking about the spiders because
I went to pick up this bucket and look what
(02:21):
I found on the bottom.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That was that was a bit remarkable, and I don't
think he probably needed coffee after that that day.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
A black widow widow. Yeah, And you know, I'll tell
you I've gone hunting from I realized this is going
to seem a lot remember in them all just are
we're we're a bit different, You're just weird. So some
years ago I really made a very deliberate effort to
go hunting for black widow spiders. You and I already
(02:56):
talked about this on the radio show some years ago.
And where did where did I find the most? And
this was kind of startling at the base of shrubs.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, like the nursery.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and that's uh yeah, with your connection with nursery production.
Uh and and also in landscapings. Uh and you know,
some fairly large I mean, I can give the location.
It's not a big deal black when the spiders are
part of our our ecology, our landscape ecology too, so
(03:29):
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But it was a.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Spring grove, cemetery and arboretum. And don't make any any
jokes about where and so forth. But it I was amazed,
you know. Now, of course I don't know people driving
through if they knew what I was doing, you know,
up underneath the shrub. They probably just only saw my feet.
(03:51):
Thank goodness, it was, you know, not Halloween time. But
I was really amazed at how often and how common
I would come across black widows. Now, the thing about
what black widows spiders is they do make you know,
a they do use webbing, but it's just kind of
They're in the group of spiders that we call cobweb spiders.
(04:15):
And it's not saying those cobwebs in your home are
being made by spiders that are like black widows, but
they are related. So their webbing is just kind of
a mishmash of cobwebs. And so if you look very
closely at the base, they don't make they never make
their webs. High up in the in a shrub near
(04:35):
the base is where you'll find them. And Ron I
have to say, I came away sort of well, I admit,
you know a little bit you know a little bit
of he begbis. It's like then every time I walk past,
you know, one of the large spy rio or taxes,
not so many taxes down I think about it, but
(04:55):
the multi stem shrubs, you know where you have a
lot of foliage near the base of shrub. It was.
It was startling, but as you said, you know, we
need to make sure the nursery workers know this when
they're digging in the fall or in the spring.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, so it's they're they're they're more common than you think.
It's just that we tend not to find them as frequently.
Let's see, how can I say this? I need Gary
to jump in.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Want we want we want to find them, not that
I want to.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Find them, but when you look around you can find it. Now.
The other part about black widows, though, is they their
reputation far exceeds their toxicity. How do you like that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
In other words, they're not quite that. Their bark's not
as not their bite is not as bad as we
think they are.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I like it barking spiders making Yeah, I think there's
a story in there something. But it is interesting that
that You're right, Uh, you know, there have been you know,
there have been individuals have been seriously affected obviously you know,
in the hospital and so forth, but usually it's not
(06:21):
something that that's that's life threatening. The stories and you know,
the accounts that I've heard with which were solid reported
by the medical community. Uh, you know if people who
have other health issues, and of course that's unfortunate because
that covers a lot of ground, right, Uh, may have
a higher incidence or may have a higher reaction, but
(06:46):
it just is not as common that people tend to
fear the spiders when they're not there. But any rate,
you're right. I was amazed. I got emails about it.
It was really kind of amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I thought it was funny with SiZ and said about
thanks for jinxing me.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah. Well, and speaking of of of emails, uh, and
and interactions and responses, I gave a talk yesterday in
Springfield to a really great group of gardeners. Pam Bennett
with who's a Clark Counting Extension educator and professor. And
(07:22):
you've had Pam on numerous times put together a program
called all Things Landscaping and and during and I was
talking about box tream off. But during the Q and A,
guess what came up?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Spiders?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That's spiders and snakes. Yeah, I have all these box
elder bugs coming in my home.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I heard Gary talking about it, and you saw my posting.
Oh my goodness. Those Now I've never you know this
is interesting. I've never come across. I've seen a lot
of pictures. I've seen pictures by my colleague Curtis Young,
for example, who's with the issue extension of Van Wert Kenny,
and he's commonly come across these large collections of box
(08:17):
elder bugs, and they happen, they have to happen. It's
just that I've never I've never come across to myself
whatever this what's that? Oh? Well, you know, yes, that's true.
That is right, okay, yes, you know how you you
know how your brain works?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
There you that makes me laugh almost as much as
the spider.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Well, and and that experience, you know, in the interest
of science. You know, I no longer wear shorts after that.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Joe had more box elder bugs on his on his legs,
crawling up in his shorts.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That was on the side of that house.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, it was very interesting. Yes, uh man, I did
the box older bug dance. But that does remind us
of something though, and that is that now I'm posting
about box elder bugs, you know that are The story
is that they get together when it's when it starts
getting cold. So you know, we had all the warm
(09:23):
temperatures some very warm temperatures, you know, just a few
weeks ago, right, and and then you know, just recently
we've had these very cold temperatures, even frosting in some
areas well. That the cold temperatures, they as the temperatures
are dropping, the bugs start collecting in these large groups.
And that's what's shown in my images on a box elder, which,
(09:47):
by the way out we always remind people box elders
are a maple, so they can collect on any maples.
We don't have as many ash trees as we used
to have obviously, but they will also do the same
because they feed on seeds that are what we call samaras,
you know, the helicopter seeds, and they'll collect in these
(10:09):
very large groups. And if the temperature, if it's not
the end of the season, which you know it never is,
we get cold and then we'll warm them up, which
is exactly what's happening this weekend and early this coming week.
So that's when the main army starts showing up on
your doorstep because all those box elder bugs on that
(10:30):
box eld in my photographs will go somewhere to look
for an overwintering site, and there are homes not very
far from where that tree exists.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And so yeah, they were making put they were putting
their plans together, drawing out a little.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Man making you go, you making the plans.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You we'll go to eighty two forty nine.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, no, no, herb's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh yeah, I'll go there. Yeah he snores, not me.
I don't going to do That's all right, just make
a quick break.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
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the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time for Part two with
the Buggy Joe Buggs Apartments Joe Buggs. During the break,
(13:14):
I got my cell phone buzzed. I looked at the
text message, and it's from the Golden Finger himself, mister
Steve Folts, Cincinnati Garden. He says, I'm driving through Spring
Grove Cemetery gathering samples from shrubs. Now I have the
HEB GBI's and I no longer want to gather samples
from the subs. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh my goodness, a real time report. Well just Steve,
just just stay up towards the top of the stamp,
towards the top of the plants. Don't don't digger around
at the base. You know it. You know, I'll tell
you though. It's not just It isn't just black widows.
I mean, there are a lot of spiders out there
(13:57):
that we that we we kind of over emphasize their impact.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I got to thinking about this, and again we sort
of touched on it last week. The recluse spiders likewise,
you know, they have a reputation that far exceeds the reality.
And I'm not trying to say that. You know, we
should question every time someone's bitten and has a large
(14:23):
area where you know of necrosis, you know, where they
have their skin, that's that looks bad. But as they said,
there was a there were studies done by an entomologist
out in California and he really did a nice job
of working with the medical community. By the way, across
(14:44):
the United States, and as I said last week, you know,
the the vast majority of what were originally diagnosed as recluse.
And I just want to emphasize why I'm continuing to
just say recluses. That a brown recluse, I think there's
six or seven different species. I should have looked that up.
(15:05):
But for example, here in Ohio, you know, we do
have the brown recluse, but we also have the Mediterranean recluse,
and they look a little different. They still have the
fiddleback marking on their There's what's called cephalo thorax. That's
where the head is joined with a thorax, and it's
where all the legs come off, so it looks like
(15:27):
a It does look like a violin or a fiddle
if you like bluegrass like I do. But at any rate,
it's it's we have different species. In Ohio, they cannot
over winter outdoors. However, in the southern parts of the
United States they can live outdoors just fine year round.
(15:49):
But the emphasis being that these spiders are not at
all aggressive. You know this idea of them, you know,
hiding out your shoes because because they're just waiting to
bite you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh they are.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Well, first of all, you know the story. I've told
this story before that several years ago. You know, I
was trying to take pictures of it. It was a
brown recluse and I was trying to take pictures and
I had it in a in a plastic shoebox. Okay,
so picture that, and I did have you know, the
(16:25):
the inside of the inside walls of the shoe box.
Little entomology trick is that I had I had it
coated with a very thin kind of smear of asoline
so that the spider couldn't climb out and jump on me,
and then I'd be making all kinds of noises that
you've heard before.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yes, yes, you have.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So I'm trying to take picture of this, and the
reason for the shoe boxes allowed me to kind of
manipulate it. So they were clear plastic, so you know,
didn't interfere with the background too much. And so I
was using you know, kind of a I don't recall,
I think I was using a soda straw to kind
of move the spider around. Uh And before I knew it,
(17:11):
so I could get you know, get the camera angles
just right, and before I knew it, you know, a
leg fell off. It was as well, it's like, goodness, yeah,
a spider. And so so now I have a seven
legs spider and I well, okay, I can kind of
you know, move it so that it doesn't you know,
(17:32):
as a parent, and you know, angle it a little bit.
And another leg fell off, and before I knew it,
that poor thing was down to like like five legs
and it was just kind of running in circles. I
said a little bit of an entomology joke, right, But
the point, the point being is that that's when I
really saw how delicate. They're pretty delicate spiders. You know,
(17:54):
we have jumping spiders. They're out there hunting, they're not delicate. Uh,
you know, they're they're pretty solid spiders. But the recluses,
like I said, they're, they're they're delicate. That's the best
way of putting it. So you jam your foot in
the boots, spider is not gonna it's just gonna smash it, exactly.
(18:16):
I mean, it's just so Again, I'm not saying that
doesn't ever happen, but it would be. It would be
kind of hard to imagine that's very common. Although I
grew up in West Virginia, you know, on our back porch,
and I still pound the boots, you know what.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but and I probably am.
It seems to me that many many years ago, and
we would talk about spiders, there used to be a
statistic out there that said the most bites from these
recluses were either on your hand or on your or
on your cheek butt cheek. Oh, I was just waiting.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I thought that was an actual statistic because you typically
were reaching your hand in to a dark area or
you were sitting down on the outhouse.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Being funny.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I thought that was part of the At one time,
that was like a stat that was out there that,
like you know that's that's where most people wind up
getting bitten if they do get bitten indeed.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But well, you know, just looking in the rear view mirror,
because that's you know what we're talking about. You know,
we talked about this quite a while back.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
How'd you like that?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, actually I think it was the widows. I think connected, yeah,
connected to the outhouse and and the hands for the
same reason. Again, you're reaching in I mean you're reaching
into a dark cupboard, or Steve is reaching into a shrub.
(19:52):
Now we speak probably and what but I will say this,
now here's something else. The recluse spiders are hunters. Uh,
so they come out and they search for prey. The
widows do you know, they do rely on things coming
(20:13):
to them, and so the widows are, when I say,
a bit more aggressive. It's only if something comes to
their web, they may zip by Steve, you know, like yeah,
like they see that golden finger reaching into that shrub.
That's exactly right, you know. Oh blckmore.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You gave everybody the heb gebis once again, Buggy Joe Boggs,
and we appreciate that pass.
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Here is your ninth first yardening forecast Today Sonny Pleasant,
Highest seventy two Tonight, the forty four on Sunday, Sonny Pleasant,
seventy two. On Monday, a little bit warmer, Sonny Pleasant, Highest,
seventy six degrees seven nine, fifty five hundred. Here at
fifty five KRCD Talk Station.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and his time
for the man that just shares so much bug and
disease and just great information. It's just well, we're just
so blessed to have this young man with us on
our show. Young jeez already laughing. I haven't said anything yet.
It's time for the body. Joe Bobs, Joe Boggs. This
(00:52):
says a professor Commercial Orders for the Ohis State University Extension, OHI,
a Department of Tomology poster boy for OSUE Extension website
bygl dotsut you, ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself,
Buggy Joe Bugs.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Two things before we get started.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
All right, let's just launch into it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Are you ready? We triggered stuff with the spider conversation
over the last couple of weeks. And by the way,
that's that spider that the beagle with the spider stuff
is great And Joe Strucker didn't get a posted this week.
We'll have it up next week. Great information there, so
we'll have that for everybody next week. But then you spurred,
(01:38):
of course a lot of our listeners sending in pictures
of their spiders. What are you talking about, you don't
have spiders. Well we got some spiders. Mary from Mary
from Cola Raine sent a picture of that huge garden spider,
and of course that was a great on because it
had the little Z pattern right below it, which was outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
That was a beautiful picture, it really was.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And whatever it caught there has got it all wrapped
up and getting ready to do whatever with it. So
we thank Mary for that. And the other one I
thought was pretty interesting was kind of gave me goosebumps
a bit was from uh Simon, and Simon said, I
think you guys changed me talking about the spiders because
I went to pick up this bucket and look what
(02:21):
I found on the bottom.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That was that was a bit remarkable, and I don't
think he probably needed coffee after that that day.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
A black widow widow. Yeah, And you know, I'll tell
you I've gone hunting from I realized this is going
to seem a lot remember in them all just are
we're we're a bit different, You're just weird. So some
years ago I really made a very deliberate effort to
go hunting for black widow spiders. You and I already
(02:56):
talked about this on the radio show some years ago.
And where did where did I find the most? And
this was kind of startling at the base of shrubs.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, like the nursery.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and that's uh yeah, with your connection with nursery production.
Uh and and also in landscapings. Uh and you know,
some fairly large I mean, I can give the location.
It's not a big deal black when the spiders are
part of our our ecology, our landscape ecology too, so
(03:29):
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But it was a.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Spring grove, cemetery and arboretum. And don't make any any
jokes about where and so forth. But it I was amazed,
you know. Now, of course I don't know people driving
through if they knew what I was doing, you know,
up underneath the shrub. They probably just only saw my feet.
(03:51):
Thank goodness, it was, you know, not Halloween time. But
I was really amazed at how often and how common
I would come across black widows. Now, the thing about
what black widows spiders is they do make you know,
a they do use webbing, but it's just kind of
They're in the group of spiders that we call cobweb spiders.
(04:15):
And it's not saying those cobwebs in your home are
being made by spiders that are like black widows, but
they are related. So their webbing is just kind of
a mishmash of cobwebs. And so if you look very
closely at the base, they don't make they never make
their webs. High up in the in a shrub near
(04:35):
the base is where you'll find them. And Ron I
have to say, I came away sort of well, I admit,
you know a little bit you know a little bit
of he begbis. It's like then every time I walk past,
you know, one of the large spy rio or taxes,
not so many taxes down I think about it, but
(04:55):
the multi stem shrubs, you know where you have a
lot of foliage near the base of shrub. It was.
It was startling, but as you said, you know, we
need to make sure the nursery workers know this when
they're digging in the fall or in the spring.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, so it's they're they're they're more common than you think.
It's just that we tend not to find them as frequently.
Let's see, how can I say this? I need Gary
to jump in.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Want we want we want to find them, not that
I want to.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Find them, but when you look around you can find it. Now.
The other part about black widows, though, is they their
reputation far exceeds their toxicity. How do you like that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
In other words, they're not quite that. Their bark's not
as not their bite is not as bad as we
think they are.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I like it barking spiders making Yeah, I think there's
a story in there something. But it is interesting that
that You're right, Uh, you know, there have been you know,
there have been individuals have been seriously affected obviously you know,
in the hospital and so forth, but usually it's not
(06:21):
something that that's that's life threatening. The stories and you know,
the accounts that I've heard with which were solid reported
by the medical community. Uh, you know if people who
have other health issues, and of course that's unfortunate because
that covers a lot of ground, right, Uh, may have
a higher incidence or may have a higher reaction, but
(06:46):
it just is not as common that people tend to
fear the spiders when they're not there. But any rate,
you're right. I was amazed. I got emails about it.
It was really kind of amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I thought it was funny with SiZ and said about
thanks for jinxing me.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah. Well, and speaking of of of emails, uh, and
and interactions and responses, I gave a talk yesterday in
Springfield to a really great group of gardeners. Pam Bennett
with who's a Clark Counting Extension educator and professor. And
(07:22):
you've had Pam on numerous times put together a program
called all Things Landscaping and and during and I was
talking about box tream off. But during the Q and A,
guess what came up?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Spiders?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That's spiders and snakes. Yeah, I have all these box
elder bugs coming in my home.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I heard Gary talking about it, and you saw my posting.
Oh my goodness. Those Now I've never you know this
is interesting. I've never come across. I've seen a lot
of pictures. I've seen pictures by my colleague Curtis Young,
for example, who's with the issue extension of Van Wert Kenny,
and he's commonly come across these large collections of box
(08:17):
elder bugs, and they happen, they have to happen. It's
just that I've never I've never come across to myself
whatever this what's that? Oh? Well, you know, yes, that's true.
That is right, okay, yes, you know how you you
know how your brain works?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
There you that makes me laugh almost as much as
the spider.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Well, and and that experience, you know, in the interest
of science. You know, I no longer wear shorts after that.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Joe had more box elder bugs on his on his legs,
crawling up in his shorts.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That was on the side of that house.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, it was very interesting. Yes, uh man, I did
the box older bug dance. But that does remind us
of something though, and that is that now I'm posting
about box elder bugs, you know that are The story
is that they get together when it's when it starts
getting cold. So you know, we had all the warm
(09:23):
temperatures some very warm temperatures, you know, just a few
weeks ago, right, and and then you know, just recently
we've had these very cold temperatures, even frosting in some
areas well. That the cold temperatures, they as the temperatures
are dropping, the bugs start collecting in these large groups.
And that's what's shown in my images on a box elder, which,
(09:47):
by the way out we always remind people box elders
are a maple, so they can collect on any maples.
We don't have as many ash trees as we used
to have obviously, but they will also do the same
because they feed on seeds that are what we call samaras,
you know, the helicopter seeds, and they'll collect in these
(10:09):
very large groups. And if the temperature, if it's not
the end of the season, which you know it never is,
we get cold and then we'll warm them up, which
is exactly what's happening this weekend and early this coming week.
So that's when the main army starts showing up on
your doorstep because all those box elder bugs on that
(10:30):
box eld in my photographs will go somewhere to look
for an overwintering site, and there are homes not very
far from where that tree exists.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And so yeah, they were making put they were putting
their plans together, drawing out a little.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Man making you go, you making the plans.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You we'll go to eighty two forty nine.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, no, no, herb's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh yeah, I'll go there. Yeah he snores, not me.
I don't going to do That's all right, just make
a quick break.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
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the Buggy Joe Buggs Apartments Joe Buggs. During the break,
(13:14):
I got my cell phone buzzed. I looked at the
text message, and it's from the Golden Finger himself, mister
Steve Folts, Cincinnati Garden. He says, I'm driving through Spring
Grove Cemetery gathering samples from shrubs. Now I have the
HEB GBI's and I no longer want to gather samples
from the subs. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh my goodness, a real time report. Well just Steve,
just just stay up towards the top of the stamp,
towards the top of the plants. Don't don't digger around
at the base. You know it. You know, I'll tell
you though. It's not just It isn't just black widows.
I mean, there are a lot of spiders out there
(13:57):
that we that we we kind of over emphasize their impact.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I got to thinking about this, and again we sort
of touched on it last week. The recluse spiders likewise,
you know, they have a reputation that far exceeds the reality.
And I'm not trying to say that. You know, we
should question every time someone's bitten and has a large
(14:23):
area where you know of necrosis, you know, where they
have their skin, that's that looks bad. But as they said,
there was a there were studies done by an entomologist
out in California and he really did a nice job
of working with the medical community. By the way, across
(14:44):
the United States, and as I said last week, you know,
the the vast majority of what were originally diagnosed as recluse.
And I just want to emphasize why I'm continuing to
just say recluses. That a brown recluse, I think there's
six or seven different species. I should have looked that up.
(15:05):
But for example, here in Ohio, you know, we do
have the brown recluse, but we also have the Mediterranean recluse,
and they look a little different. They still have the
fiddleback marking on their There's what's called cephalo thorax. That's
where the head is joined with a thorax, and it's
where all the legs come off, so it looks like
(15:27):
a It does look like a violin or a fiddle
if you like bluegrass like I do. But at any rate,
it's it's we have different species. In Ohio, they cannot
over winter outdoors. However, in the southern parts of the
United States they can live outdoors just fine year round.
(15:49):
But the emphasis being that these spiders are not at
all aggressive. You know this idea of them, you know,
hiding out your shoes because because they're just waiting to
bite you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh they are.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Well, first of all, you know the story. I've told
this story before that several years ago. You know, I
was trying to take pictures of it. It was a
brown recluse and I was trying to take pictures and
I had it in a in a plastic shoebox. Okay,
so picture that, and I did have you know, the
(16:25):
the inside of the inside walls of the shoe box.
Little entomology trick is that I had I had it
coated with a very thin kind of smear of asoline
so that the spider couldn't climb out and jump on me,
and then I'd be making all kinds of noises that
you've heard before.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yes, yes, you have.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So I'm trying to take picture of this, and the
reason for the shoe boxes allowed me to kind of
manipulate it. So they were clear plastic, so you know,
didn't interfere with the background too much. And so I
was using you know, kind of a I don't recall,
I think I was using a soda straw to kind
of move the spider around. Uh And before I knew it,
(17:11):
so I could get you know, get the camera angles
just right, and before I knew it, you know, a
leg fell off. It was as well, it's like, goodness, yeah,
a spider. And so so now I have a seven
legs spider and I well, okay, I can kind of
you know, move it so that it doesn't you know,
(17:32):
as a parent, and you know, angle it a little bit.
And another leg fell off, and before I knew it,
that poor thing was down to like like five legs
and it was just kind of running in circles. I
said a little bit of an entomology joke, right, But
the point, the point being is that that's when I
really saw how delicate. They're pretty delicate spiders. You know,
(17:54):
we have jumping spiders. They're out there hunting, they're not delicate. Uh,
you know, they're they're pretty solid spiders. But the recluses,
like I said, they're, they're they're delicate. That's the best
way of putting it. So you jam your foot in
the boots, spider is not gonna it's just gonna smash it, exactly.
(18:16):
I mean, it's just so Again, I'm not saying that
doesn't ever happen, but it would be. It would be
kind of hard to imagine that's very common. Although I
grew up in West Virginia, you know, on our back porch,
and I still pound the boots, you know what.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but and I probably am.
It seems to me that many many years ago, and
we would talk about spiders, there used to be a
statistic out there that said the most bites from these
recluses were either on your hand or on your or
on your cheek butt cheek. Oh, I was just waiting.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I thought that was an actual statistic because you typically
were reaching your hand in to a dark area or
you were sitting down on the outhouse.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Being funny.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I thought that was part of the At one time,
that was like a stat that was out there that,
like you know that's that's where most people wind up
getting bitten if they do get bitten indeed.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But well, you know, just looking in the rear view mirror,
because that's you know what we're talking about. You know,
we talked about this quite a while back.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
How'd you like that?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, actually I think it was the widows. I think connected, yeah,
connected to the outhouse and and the hands for the
same reason. Again, you're reaching in I mean you're reaching
into a dark cupboard, or Steve is reaching into a shrub.
(19:52):
Now we speak probably and what but I will say this,
now here's something else. The recluse spiders are hunters. Uh,
so they come out and they search for prey. The
widows do you know, they do rely on things coming
(20:13):
to them, and so the widows are, when I say,
a bit more aggressive. It's only if something comes to
their web, they may zip by Steve, you know, like yeah,
like they see that golden finger reaching into that shrub.
That's exactly right, you know. Oh blckmore.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You gave everybody the heb gebis once again, Buggy Joe Boggs,
and we appreciate that pass.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
My job is complete.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
No Buckeye game today, So relax enjoy your weekend and
we'll talk next Saturday. I you have a great wik
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So Danny, thank you so much for all that you do.
Now do yourself a favor where you gonna plant a
(21:03):
tree or two or three, including white oaks. You got plants,
some white oaks, Keep planning those native plants. Be poll
enator friendly, panther your worms, Get your kids and dogs
involved gardening. Make it the best weekend of your life.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
See you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
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