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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson in
his time for Bucky Joe Boggs. You poor mister Joe Boggs.
This is a professor commercial order it because you're there.
Don't have to say universe extensions. Oh whoa ohsu Department
of Entomology, uh co creator month or coffeeing for him
website b Y G L dot O s U dot
E d U. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only
(00:20):
buggy Joe bags. Wow, how about a little how about
a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boy, I'll tell you, I don't know what a what
a difference to him?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Crickets too there we go, Yeah, to think about it.
For me, they're just messing with you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What a difference a year makes?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's that's open ended, isn't it. Well? You know, just before,
just before I came up on, you were doing the
weather and isolated downforce tomorrow. Oh yeah, what was happening
a year ago? I mean, please, oh my gosh. We
were talking about the need for watering and historical historical
(01:17):
droughout last year and I was just thinking about when
you said that, I was thinking, oh my goodness. You know,
at this point we forgot what mowing the lawns were, right, Yeah,
I mean it was just everything was brown and and
you didn't know what was going to happen next. But
all that brand has led to one of the largest
outbreaks coverages of crabgrass. I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I have more crabgrass in my yard than I've ever had,
especially along the sidewalks and that type. But then it is, yeah,
it is thick. As much.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is thick, it's doing well. I mean, if you
want crabgrass lines, we got them. Yeah, some lines I'm
seeing are predominantly crabgrass, which you know, we're just paying
for what happened last year. And you and I talked
about this that you know, the best time to seed
along is in the fall, but we had a drought
so you really couldn't do it. The second best time
(02:12):
is really anytime you can get the seed down, you know,
as long as you can water, but actually spring, and
you know, we used to kind of make more of
a deal out of this, and I think we should have,
you know, making people perhaps believe that it's worth it's
not worthwhile putting seed down in the spring. Well, The
reason that we that newly seeded turf grass in the
(02:36):
spring can struggle is because you have such a short
period of time before you get into the hot, dry days.
And those those grass plants are seedlings usually by them
still considered seedlings. If you if you're overseed in the
fall or seed in the fall, you have a lot
of growth through the winter. I mean a lot of
(02:57):
folks don't realize this. These cool season grass as though
they will keep growing as long as the soil isn't frozen.
So that's when we like to see people oversee the
lawn but in a pinch, and like last year, for example,
you and I were talking about this, I think early
on the radio, you and you know when I when
(03:19):
I came out of you patients or you know, from
the winter, you and I talked about this idea that well,
people maybe need to be doing a little work with
their lawns because a thick lawn will out compete crab grass.
You know, you've seen it, I've seen it. You you
don't even have to put down you know, a crabgrass preventer.
(03:39):
I mean, that's always that has become in our society,
almost like a ritual in the spring. Right, But if
if that lawn is thick, it's going to out compete
the crab grass. But crabgrass is such an opportunistic plan.
If it has any openings, any weaknesses, well crabgrass will
exploit it to to show what we have right now.
(04:01):
And now, the good news is that that crackgrass is
an annual grass, so it won't be around next year.
The bad news is wait till it dies in the fall,
which is officially what three weeks. I can't believe you
said that three weeks, But wait till it dies in
(04:22):
the fall, and it's going to be brown city. Right.
That almost looked like we had a drop problem. So again,
just bringing all these things up, I realize now that
I'm just full of positive attitude, aren't I?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, yes, you know on a serious you know, being
in the retail business and watching retail trends and sales
and things like that. Lawn care, believe it or not,
lawng care products this past spring were not very big.
And I don't know because the rain we got early,
(04:56):
the grass screened up early. It came on quick. We
are mowing quick early, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, So seed.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Sales and fertilizer sales, and that we're actually down a
tad from well so I think sometimes you know, you
also is all of a sudden it's raining and it's
and everything you got there starts greening up, whether it's
your grass or not your grass, and it's all green.
So why do anything? I don't know, but you're right,
that's uh this fall. That's why I was saying early
(05:27):
this fall, you know, put your plans in place now,
especially if you've got, you know, things you need to
totally get rid of, like nimble will something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh oh, yeah, that you need.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, now's the time you've got to jump on that.
So you're ready to take care of seating and core
air rating and all. Once we start getting into September.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You make a very good point, and and well, yes
we're writing these down point one point, you know, because
we have the big tennis tournament right then here.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So can you hear the country you at your house?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I can?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I bet you can hear it? Yeah, just sitting in
the inside the house, we can.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Hear it outside. It is amazing. I didn't think we could.
I mean I didn't know what it was of how
somebody's playing a radio near at hand. But back to
the back to the lawn care. You know one thing
that that that I think you're exactly right. We we
I can speak for myself on this. I was paying
attention to certain areas of my lawn that I was
(06:31):
not able to water as well. And of course, you
know I talked about this last summer. The best thing
we could do would be just the water to keep
the crowns alive, the growing point on the plant. And
we tend to forget cool season grasses. You know, they
can go summer dormant, but no problem at all. You
know that they become straw collared. That's that's a good collar.
(06:53):
If they become gray, you're in trouble. But straw collar,
that's a good collar. But there was one area that
I just couldn't drag the hose consistently to keep the
crown well, to keep the plants I think watered well enough.
And so this spring I was really keeping an eye
on that one area not big and you're exactly right wrong,
(07:14):
And I was like, well, you know, I'm kind of
surprised how much grass is coming back. I should have
overseeded it. But I was thinking, well, you know that
those plants, you know, get they spread out, you know,
because of it. I have tall fescue turps, I tall
rescue and and they do you know, tillers, so you
do get more width of a plant. I was thinking,
(07:36):
now they're gonna it's going to look pretty good. Wrong,
it was wrong for about one week. If I had overseeded,
I would have been in a lot better shape. And
I just didn't do it. So, you know, amplify that
by acres and acres. So it brings up a point
(07:56):
that folks might be thinking, well, you know, I' through
this summer. And this is sometimes where we do have
a difficult time with people addressing lawn issues if they
want a great looking lawn, and that is that you
were coming up on it. If you look at your lawn,
you're saying, I have way more perennial weeds, like you said,
(08:17):
nimblewell grassy weed. If I have way more weeds, maybe
the crabgrass has gotten so thick that when you get
down and part the crabgrass, you find it has is suppressed,
you know, the preferred grass. I mean, there are some
lines I think that's happening. I don't see any regular
(08:37):
grass coming up, well, then it may be time to
consider doing something, you know, in terms of renovation, and
that can take a lot of effort. If you do
have to use an herviside, make sure you're not using
you know, you and I talked about this. We used
to always say, make the application of round up in August.
(08:59):
But what's in round up right now a little different
life Estate. It's a different formula and it's not going
to be one you'd want to be doing that with.
So the point being is that, all right, you know
you're going to have to pick your poison and figure
out what you're going to use if you have to
kill everything, and then you need to get it started
pretty soon because the seating should be happening first part
(09:22):
of September, late August, one September to get those plants up.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But life Estate is available for homeowners like Fertilo exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Just look at the what was that name again? I
want to hear it, so there you go. Make sure
that when you look at that label it says life Estate,
because that is the that's the killer that won't leave
a residue in the lawn that can suppress you know,
the uh germination of the grass seed. But as I said,
(09:58):
you know, people are going to need to be making
it decision very soon. I may have to do that
in a few spots, but I'll probably spot seed. I'm
thinking some people may be wanting to rent a slice
seater or a slit seed. The same piece of equipment
slices through the organic matter, sets that seed right on
the surface of the soil. You don't want to bury
(10:20):
the seed and it is the best way to bring
along around. Now you don't have to kill everything to
have a great result. As a matter of fact, I
actually have been in many years i've been involved in this,
I've really not ever done a complete renovation. I've only
just used a slice seed and it does very very well.
(10:40):
You can bring a line back pretty even with this
crab grass. Remember it's going to die so well.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Sometimes it even tears the crabgrass out for you.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It does. A slice seed will just cut right through
those that you're exactly right, you're exact, and then that
you know, then the sliced up crabgrass is going to
serve almost like you know, the straw the top.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
He we gotta take, yeah, take a little break We're
gonna come right back with the more of the buggy
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Speaker 1 (12:33):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Budget Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs O SU Extension b yg L dot O
s U dot E D. You did I text you
this week?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes, from from Kansas day you're not in Kansas anymore,
I tell you that I can. So you did, and
you said that the fall web was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Look what I found out here the wonder We couldn't
find it in our area. It was all it's all
out there.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, well somebody said the little caterpillar go west, young
man and a lady or they are Yeah, seriously, we
got we have a lot to talk about bagworms, fall
weborm enough to see now and fall web worm is
is making a comeback slowly, but surely you know it
is a native insect. And of course I posted this
(13:30):
on the Big Ole this past week where uh, you know,
I'm seeing a few more nests in in in the
Ohio area that I've seen in the last few years.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Where did they go?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's normal? Well, you know, there are something like what
thirty some different predators and I think something like fifty
different parasitoids. And the number is huge because fall weber
fall webworm is a native insect, and it means that
over time there have been so many things that have
found it to be good to eat. So as we
(14:04):
get high populations. I kind of compare it to foxes
and rabbits, right, you know, we know foxes eat rabbit
as well. As the rabbit population expands, foxes the fox
population expands. Eventually, you know, they cause a decline in
the rabbits. The same thing happens with fall webworm, where
once you start having a lot of meat, you get
(14:25):
the meat eaters taking it out and so then we
have what we call a population crash, meaning that the
numbers just go way down. In this case, you know,
they went very low, didn't they. I Mean, we used
to talk about fall web worm all the time about
this time of the year and for the last maybe
four or five years. Wrong, I need to go back
(14:46):
and look because I've been kind of belly aching about
it in the bagel that they've been no shows. But eventually,
of course, you know, they don't completely go away, and
eventually they start building back. And that's what I think seeing.
I'm not predicting next year is going to be really bad.
I'm just saying that, Okay, they'll rise again and then
(15:07):
something will happen, you know, overall, and they'll drop. Same
thing with bagworms, you know, I would say that this
season we're seeing more bagworms than we've seen in the
last four or five years. Uh. And eventually, though, you know,
we'll see a crash and one thing that's responsible for
causing insects to have a difficult time are on the wing.
(15:31):
This is a segway, so I hope you're sitting down.
I am one of your one of our one of
our favorite insects. Robber flies are on the wing now. Yes, yes,
I posted on this yesterday. Eric Draper from Jialogha County.
This past Tuesday, we have a it's called a big
(15:52):
loom in service and Eric showed some pictures that were
taken by his colleague there in Jeogha County, Wendy Ward,
and the pick sure was a beautiful shot of a
robber fly that honestly, I've never gotten a picture of
although originally ron I used to call all my big
robber fly pictures red footed cannibal flies. And it turned
(16:15):
out that there's a slight variation in appearance. And if
you just scroll down on my big alert you see
you'll see what I'm talking about. What I was actually
seeing was the maroon leg lion fly.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, all these years I had that framed and posted
on my desk as a robber fly. Then I had
to scratch that out last year and say, Joe found
out this isn't so I scratched it out.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It wasn't the cannibal fly. So so Wendy got a
great shot of a cannibal fly. It's the lead image
in the in the alert, the big old alert, and
uh and it's eating what I think is a moth.
I can't couldn't really tell. All I know is doing
what rubber flies do. Now, these flies, the giant robber flies,
(17:06):
there's one genus that where we have flies that about
inch inch and a half long. They're they're big, very
narrow bodies, very long dangling legs, and bulbous eyes all
the better to see you with, right, thesees and no neck,
but a huge looks like a humped back. That's their
(17:29):
thorax and it's actually a battering ram because what they do,
and the title of the Big Old Alert is robber
flies are aerobatic wonders. These are one of the few
insects that do this. As predators, they will fly through
the air when they spot a prey, which I saw.
This happened with a bald faced orn it several years ago.
(17:51):
I heard the buzzing and because you could hear these right,
I mean you can hear them coming, you know. I
heard the buzzing and then all of a sudden, I
heard a snap. It really sounded like somebody you know,
snapped their fingers. And about that time I saw this hornet.
I spotted what was happening and saw this hornet tumbling.
It wasn't very far from me, and then the robber
(18:14):
flies swooped down and grabbed it out of the air.
Now it rammed the hornet in mid air, and it's
that stunned the hornet. And then these robber flies, if
you look at the tips of their legs, we call
what's at the end tarsal claws. But those tarsal claws
are like grappling hooks, and so as soon as that
(18:35):
bald faced hornet was stunned, the robber fly grabbed it
with the out of the air with those grappling hook legs,
and then immediately injected neurotoxins, and that then would incapacitate,
doesn't kill, would incapacitate that hornet or anything else that
they grabbed out of the air. And then they land
(18:55):
and they inject stomach contents, which would be you know,
digestive juices into their prey and use their piercing fucking
mouth parts to have an insect slurping. Yes, the whole story. Yes,
it's just an amazing thing. It is really quite an
(19:15):
interesting story. And but the back to this idea, and at.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The end of this, Danny was eating a yogurt while
you were talking about that I saw on the screen.
He just spit it back out.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, that's that's digestive.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It works, really, that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So, yeah, a lot of the neat things happening right now, right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm sorry there is I'm sorry we ran out of time,
but I'm sure he'll save some of that for us
for next week.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Absolutely you have a good week.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
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Now do yourself a favor. Falls right around the corner.
(20:08):
Where you're gonna plant a tree or two or three.
Where are you gonna plant those native plants and native bars?
Where you're gonna plant those pollinator plants? How are you
gonna keep pampering your worms, gonna get the kids and
dogs of all the gardening by all means, whatever you're doing,
all your planning, make this weekend the best weekend of
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Speaker 2 (20:23):
See you.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Not Gardening questions, Ron has the answers and one eight
hundred eighty two three Talk you are in the garden
with Ron Wilson
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson in
his time for Bucky Joe Boggs. You poor mister Joe Boggs.
This is a professor commercial order it because you're there.
Don't have to say universe extensions. Oh whoa ohsu Department
of Entomology, uh co creator month or coffeeing for him
website b Y G L dot O s U dot
E d U. Ladies and gentlemen, the one the only
(00:20):
buggy Joe bags. Wow, how about a little how about
a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Boy, I'll tell you, I don't know what a what
a difference to him?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Crickets too there we go, Yeah, to think about it.
For me, they're just messing with you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What a difference a year makes?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's that's open ended, isn't it. Well? You know, just before,
just before I came up on, you were doing the
weather and isolated downforce tomorrow. Oh yeah, what was happening
a year ago? I mean, please, oh my gosh. We
were talking about the need for watering and historical historical
(01:17):
droughout last year and I was just thinking about when
you said that, I was thinking, oh my goodness. You know,
at this point we forgot what mowing the lawns were, right, Yeah,
I mean it was just everything was brown and and
you didn't know what was going to happen next. But
all that brand has led to one of the largest
outbreaks coverages of crabgrass. I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I have more crabgrass in my yard than I've ever had,
especially along the sidewalks and that type. But then it is, yeah,
it is thick. As much.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is thick, it's doing well. I mean, if you
want crabgrass lines, we got them. Yeah, some lines I'm
seeing are predominantly crabgrass, which you know, we're just paying
for what happened last year. And you and I talked
about this that you know, the best time to seed
along is in the fall, but we had a drought
so you really couldn't do it. The second best time
(02:12):
is really anytime you can get the seed down, you know,
as long as you can water, but actually spring, and
you know, we used to kind of make more of
a deal out of this, and I think we should have,
you know, making people perhaps believe that it's worth it's
not worthwhile putting seed down in the spring. Well, The
reason that we that newly seeded turf grass in the
(02:36):
spring can struggle is because you have such a short
period of time before you get into the hot, dry days.
And those those grass plants are seedlings usually by them
still considered seedlings. If you if you're overseed in the
fall or seed in the fall, you have a lot
of growth through the winter. I mean a lot of
(02:57):
folks don't realize this. These cool season grass as though
they will keep growing as long as the soil isn't frozen.
So that's when we like to see people oversee the
lawn but in a pinch, and like last year, for example,
you and I were talking about this, I think early
on the radio, you and you know when I when
(03:19):
I came out of you patients or you know, from
the winter, you and I talked about this idea that well,
people maybe need to be doing a little work with
their lawns because a thick lawn will out compete crab grass.
You know, you've seen it, I've seen it. You you
don't even have to put down you know, a crabgrass preventer.
(03:39):
I mean, that's always that has become in our society,
almost like a ritual in the spring. Right, But if
if that lawn is thick, it's going to out compete
the crab grass. But crabgrass is such an opportunistic plan.
If it has any openings, any weaknesses, well crabgrass will
exploit it to to show what we have right now.
(04:01):
And now, the good news is that that crackgrass is
an annual grass, so it won't be around next year.
The bad news is wait till it dies in the fall,
which is officially what three weeks. I can't believe you
said that three weeks, But wait till it dies in
(04:22):
the fall, and it's going to be brown city. Right.
That almost looked like we had a drop problem. So again,
just bringing all these things up, I realize now that
I'm just full of positive attitude, aren't I?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, yes, you know on a serious you know, being
in the retail business and watching retail trends and sales
and things like that. Lawn care, believe it or not,
lawng care products this past spring were not very big.
And I don't know because the rain we got early,
(04:56):
the grass screened up early. It came on quick. We
are mowing quick early, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, So seed.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Sales and fertilizer sales, and that we're actually down a
tad from well so I think sometimes you know, you
also is all of a sudden it's raining and it's
and everything you got there starts greening up, whether it's
your grass or not your grass, and it's all green.
So why do anything? I don't know, but you're right,
that's uh this fall. That's why I was saying early
(05:27):
this fall, you know, put your plans in place now,
especially if you've got, you know, things you need to
totally get rid of, like nimble will something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh oh, yeah, that you need.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, now's the time you've got to jump on that.
So you're ready to take care of seating and core
air rating and all. Once we start getting into September.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You make a very good point, and and well, yes
we're writing these down point one point, you know, because
we have the big tennis tournament right then here.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So can you hear the country you at your house?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I can?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I bet you can hear it? Yeah, just sitting in
the inside the house, we can.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Hear it outside. It is amazing. I didn't think we could.
I mean I didn't know what it was of how
somebody's playing a radio near at hand. But back to
the back to the lawn care. You know one thing
that that that I think you're exactly right. We we
I can speak for myself on this. I was paying
attention to certain areas of my lawn that I was
(06:31):
not able to water as well. And of course, you
know I talked about this last summer. The best thing
we could do would be just the water to keep
the crowns alive, the growing point on the plant. And
we tend to forget cool season grasses. You know, they
can go summer dormant, but no problem at all. You
know that they become straw collared. That's that's a good collar.
(06:53):
If they become gray, you're in trouble. But straw collar,
that's a good collar. But there was one area that
I just couldn't drag the hose consistently to keep the
crown well, to keep the plants I think watered well enough.
And so this spring I was really keeping an eye
on that one area not big and you're exactly right wrong,
(07:14):
And I was like, well, you know, I'm kind of
surprised how much grass is coming back. I should have
overseeded it. But I was thinking, well, you know that
those plants, you know, get they spread out, you know,
because of it. I have tall fescue turps, I tall
rescue and and they do you know, tillers, so you
do get more width of a plant. I was thinking,
(07:36):
now they're gonna it's going to look pretty good. Wrong,
it was wrong for about one week. If I had overseeded,
I would have been in a lot better shape. And
I just didn't do it. So, you know, amplify that
by acres and acres. So it brings up a point
(07:56):
that folks might be thinking, well, you know, I' through
this summer. And this is sometimes where we do have
a difficult time with people addressing lawn issues if they
want a great looking lawn, and that is that you
were coming up on it. If you look at your lawn,
you're saying, I have way more perennial weeds, like you said,
(08:17):
nimblewell grassy weed. If I have way more weeds, maybe
the crabgrass has gotten so thick that when you get
down and part the crabgrass, you find it has is suppressed,
you know, the preferred grass. I mean, there are some
lines I think that's happening. I don't see any regular
(08:37):
grass coming up, well, then it may be time to
consider doing something, you know, in terms of renovation, and
that can take a lot of effort. If you do
have to use an herviside, make sure you're not using
you know, you and I talked about this. We used
to always say, make the application of round up in August.
(08:59):
But what's in round up right now a little different
life Estate. It's a different formula and it's not going
to be one you'd want to be doing that with.
So the point being is that, all right, you know
you're going to have to pick your poison and figure
out what you're going to use if you have to
kill everything, and then you need to get it started
pretty soon because the seating should be happening first part
(09:22):
of September, late August, one September to get those plants up.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But life Estate is available for homeowners like Fertilo exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Just look at the what was that name again? I
want to hear it, so there you go. Make sure
that when you look at that label it says life Estate,
because that is the that's the killer that won't leave
a residue in the lawn that can suppress you know,
the uh germination of the grass seed. But as I said,
(09:58):
you know, people are going to need to be making
it decision very soon. I may have to do that
in a few spots, but I'll probably spot seed. I'm
thinking some people may be wanting to rent a slice
seater or a slit seed. The same piece of equipment
slices through the organic matter, sets that seed right on
the surface of the soil. You don't want to bury
(10:20):
the seed and it is the best way to bring
along around. Now you don't have to kill everything to
have a great result. As a matter of fact, I
actually have been in many years i've been involved in this,
I've really not ever done a complete renovation. I've only
just used a slice seed and it does very very well.
(10:40):
You can bring a line back pretty even with this
crab grass. Remember it's going to die so well.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Sometimes it even tears the crabgrass out for you.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It does. A slice seed will just cut right through
those that you're exactly right, you're exact, and then that
you know, then the sliced up crabgrass is going to
serve almost like you know, the straw the top.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
He we gotta take, yeah, take a little break We're
gonna come right back with the more of the buggy
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Speaker 1 (12:33):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for part two of the Budget Joe Boggs Report. Mister
Joe Boggs O SU Extension b yg L dot O
s U dot E D. You did I text you
this week?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes, from from Kansas day you're not in Kansas anymore,
I tell you that I can. So you did, and
you said that the fall web was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Look what I found out here the wonder We couldn't
find it in our area. It was all it's all
out there.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, well somebody said the little caterpillar go west, young
man and a lady or they are Yeah, seriously, we
got we have a lot to talk about bagworms, fall
weborm enough to see now and fall web worm is
is making a comeback slowly, but surely you know it
is a native insect. And of course I posted this
(13:30):
on the Big Ole this past week where uh, you know,
I'm seeing a few more nests in in in the
Ohio area that I've seen in the last few years.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Where did they go?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's normal? Well, you know, there are something like what
thirty some different predators and I think something like fifty
different parasitoids. And the number is huge because fall weber
fall webworm is a native insect, and it means that
over time there have been so many things that have
found it to be good to eat. So as we
(14:04):
get high populations. I kind of compare it to foxes
and rabbits, right, you know, we know foxes eat rabbit
as well. As the rabbit population expands, foxes the fox
population expands. Eventually, you know, they cause a decline in
the rabbits. The same thing happens with fall webworm, where
once you start having a lot of meat, you get
(14:25):
the meat eaters taking it out and so then we
have what we call a population crash, meaning that the
numbers just go way down. In this case, you know,
they went very low, didn't they. I Mean, we used
to talk about fall web worm all the time about
this time of the year and for the last maybe
four or five years. Wrong, I need to go back
(14:46):
and look because I've been kind of belly aching about
it in the bagel that they've been no shows. But eventually,
of course, you know, they don't completely go away, and
eventually they start building back. And that's what I think seeing.
I'm not predicting next year is going to be really bad.
I'm just saying that, Okay, they'll rise again and then
(15:07):
something will happen, you know, overall, and they'll drop. Same
thing with bagworms, you know, I would say that this
season we're seeing more bagworms than we've seen in the
last four or five years. Uh. And eventually, though, you know,
we'll see a crash and one thing that's responsible for
causing insects to have a difficult time are on the wing.
(15:31):
This is a segway, so I hope you're sitting down.
I am one of your one of our one of
our favorite insects. Robber flies are on the wing now. Yes, yes,
I posted on this yesterday. Eric Draper from Jialogha County.
This past Tuesday, we have a it's called a big
(15:52):
loom in service and Eric showed some pictures that were
taken by his colleague there in Jeogha County, Wendy Ward,
and the pick sure was a beautiful shot of a
robber fly that honestly, I've never gotten a picture of
although originally ron I used to call all my big
robber fly pictures red footed cannibal flies. And it turned
(16:15):
out that there's a slight variation in appearance. And if
you just scroll down on my big alert you see
you'll see what I'm talking about. What I was actually
seeing was the maroon leg lion fly.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, all these years I had that framed and posted
on my desk as a robber fly. Then I had
to scratch that out last year and say, Joe found
out this isn't so I scratched it out.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It wasn't the cannibal fly. So so Wendy got a
great shot of a cannibal fly. It's the lead image
in the in the alert, the big old alert, and
uh and it's eating what I think is a moth.
I can't couldn't really tell. All I know is doing
what rubber flies do. Now, these flies, the giant robber flies,
(17:06):
there's one genus that where we have flies that about
inch inch and a half long. They're they're big, very
narrow bodies, very long dangling legs, and bulbous eyes all
the better to see you with, right, thesees and no neck,
but a huge looks like a humped back. That's their
(17:29):
thorax and it's actually a battering ram because what they do,
and the title of the Big Old Alert is robber
flies are aerobatic wonders. These are one of the few
insects that do this. As predators, they will fly through
the air when they spot a prey, which I saw.
This happened with a bald faced orn it several years ago.
(17:51):
I heard the buzzing and because you could hear these right,
I mean you can hear them coming, you know. I
heard the buzzing and then all of a sudden, I
heard a snap. It really sounded like somebody you know,
snapped their fingers. And about that time I saw this hornet.
I spotted what was happening and saw this hornet tumbling.
It wasn't very far from me, and then the robber
(18:14):
flies swooped down and grabbed it out of the air.
Now it rammed the hornet in mid air, and it's
that stunned the hornet. And then these robber flies, if
you look at the tips of their legs, we call
what's at the end tarsal claws. But those tarsal claws
are like grappling hooks, and so as soon as that
(18:35):
bald faced hornet was stunned, the robber fly grabbed it
with the out of the air with those grappling hook legs,
and then immediately injected neurotoxins, and that then would incapacitate,
doesn't kill, would incapacitate that hornet or anything else that
they grabbed out of the air. And then they land
(18:55):
and they inject stomach contents, which would be you know,
digestive juices into their prey and use their piercing fucking
mouth parts to have an insect slurping. Yes, the whole story. Yes,
it's just an amazing thing. It is really quite an
(19:15):
interesting story. And but the back to this idea, and at.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The end of this, Danny was eating a yogurt while
you were talking about that I saw on the screen.
He just spit it back out.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, that's that's digestive.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It works, really, that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So, yeah, a lot of the neat things happening right now, right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm sorry there is I'm sorry we ran out of time,
but I'm sure he'll save some of that for us
for next week.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Absolutely you have a good week.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks Joe Buggy, Joe Box again, b Y G L
dot O s U dot E du, Thanks all our colors,
Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of course of Danny Lease and
the DURINGO Kid, our producer, because without Danny, none of
this stuff what happens to Dan as always, thank you
so much for all that you do to make us
sound like we do and make everything work. Thank you, sir.
Now do yourself a favor. Falls right around the corner.
(20:08):
Where you're gonna plant a tree or two or three.
Where are you gonna plant those native plants and native bars?
Where you're gonna plant those pollinator plants? How are you
gonna keep pampering your worms, gonna get the kids and
dogs of all the gardening by all means, whatever you're doing,
all your planning, make this weekend the best weekend of
your life.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
See you.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
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