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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My pappy said, son, you're gonna drive me to drinking
if you don't stop driving out hot rod Lincoln were
rocking all the lady.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Pretty easy down.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
The road going jes keep cut in.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the car show. I'm dan done.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm taking all of your car questions, and then I'm
gonna call five one three fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. Uh, it's
a glorious, beautiful sixty degree Saturday.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Now, I'm lyine.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It was sixty degrees in the middle of the week
and uh, here we are back in the twenties and
it was snowing this morning, and uh and then we're
gonna be back up in the sixties in the middle
of the week this coming week. And uh, now, wonder
if my nose is running? And we've all got sign
the issues and allergy issues. I know all my boys do,
and uh they've already started their allergy medicine as well.
(00:57):
It's just hard to adapt and adjust to this. But
I mean the most part, right, we've pretty had it.
It's been a pretty mild winter so far. And uh man,
that's that's that's what February has been January was great.
January was very busy, we were really busy, and then
February has been a little soft. But again, uh, January
(01:20):
was a bit colder than it was here in February.
But but again, you know, it's it's it's you know,
people need car probably or people need car.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't need. People always have car problems.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
In fact, yesterday I was late for work because I
had left early, and my wife said, uh, you know,
you're gonna need to take the boys to school because
my car won't start.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Battery's dead as a door nail.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And of course we've we just bought the car maybe
like six months ago.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But I mean I did everything I had. I had
it and it was used.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It wasn't brand new, but I had it inspected and whatnot.
I shouldn't say I had it inspected. I inspected the
vehicle and the battery tested fine then and there was
absolutely no indications, right, no indications at all. I wasn't
cranking slow or anything. She just I mean, it was
dead as a doornow she drove it. Uh Thursday night,
(02:21):
my oldest son had baseball practice. She dropped him off.
I picked him up she made dinner in the in
the morning. Nothing was left on, no doors were open, no,
you know, no lights left on. Nothing it was and
when I so, I ended up taking the boys to school,
Like I said.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
This is it even happens to me. I do it
every day.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And that's the thing is, like, you know, going back
to batteries, batteries have a the typical shelf life of
a battery.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I shouldn't say shelf life typical.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The average life of a battery in this region is
about three to four years.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And you know, so now's the time to get them
tested because again, you know, the other thing that can
be frustrating is I can test your battery today and
it'd be dead as a doornail tomorrow. That is a
possibility now most of the time, though, I can test
that battery and at Donovan's, at all of our locations,
we'll test them for free and give you honest opinion
(03:20):
on whether or not you need one. Okay, I mean
I can test the battery today and it'd be bad
and it lasts you for six more months a year.
I mean, that's possibility. Or I can test the day
it tests good and tomorrow was dead as a doornail.
I mean when I went to went home to jump
my wife's vehicle, it only had three point two volts.
I was it. You know, for those of you out
(03:41):
there are the average bat you know, batteries got to
be twelve volts and it was at three point two
and there was nothing left on. So so, I mean,
it happens, but you know, think about that. I mean,
that's something that we don't think about, and a lot
of people think that. You know, batteries are supposed to last,
you know, five, eight, ten years, now three to four
years in this region, that's about it, so get them tested.
(04:04):
In fact, it's funny. I do have some exciting news
as well. But one of my employees as well. I
called him and I said, hey, listen, I'm gonna be late.
I had to take my kids to school.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I said.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
My wife's car wouldn't start, so I had take him
to school. And he goes, well, my jeep wouldn't start either.
My battery was dead. So, you know, to have two
employees at the same location that have can't get their
car started because they have battery issues is a bit ironic.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So about three weeks ago, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Put it out there that I had some kind of
big news and maybe if you were listening right at
the beginning of the show, some exciting news.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So we have extended the Donovan.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, I shouldn't say empire, but Donovan franchise, family business
and recently purchased another business another location. Okay, so gives
you more options when need car repair. So it is
at It was a it was a four. It was
a repair shop that had been in business for thirty
(05:08):
four years and the gentleman that was that owned it
was ready to retire and I caught wind of it
and kind of jumped at the opportunity to take it over.
And they have a great customer base, great employees and uh,
like I said, I jumped at the but there was
things that we had to jump through as far as
(05:28):
get you know, all the legal stuff or whatnot. But
exciting news to and ready to announce that we have
again extended the Donovan Empire and have a new location.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
It is uh, it was formerly Auto Foreign Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
For those of you familiar with the kind of downtown
Norwood area, it's at the corner. It's at thirty seven
hundred Montgomery Road at the corner of Montgomery Road and
Dana Okay, right across the street from Xavier University. Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Again it was formerly Auto.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Foreign and we will we will continue to take care
of their customer base and foreign cars and UH extremely
excited and UH we opened up the doors Monday as
as the you know, basically as Donovance UH, you know,
but excited. So if you're in that area, if you're
in the Montgomery Road Dana Norwood area, again, we have
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opened up another location, UH to help you with all
of your car needs, anything that you need for your
vehicle in that area, we can take care of you
or any of the locations. Again we have the Ridge
Road location, pleasant Ridge location in the Blue Ash location.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So exciting news.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
If if you need any more information as far as
the number, address or anything like that, you can just
go to donovantire dot com and it will have all
of our hours, operations, location, our story. You can even
schedule all appointment from UH from our website as well.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So exciting news.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And if anybody is in that area any any type
of car repair, I will be there Monday through Friday
to take care of all of your car needs. UH
for quite some time until I can get acclimated to
the customer base and the and uh really excited to
hit the road running right and uh get things going
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and ramped up. Like I said, it was an existing
business for thirty four years and the owner was looking
to retire and took over and excited.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So it's been, it's been. This week was a whirlwind.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Uh, it was great.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A little bit of a slow start, right because we're
getting amped back up again because there was some time
that the doors were closed until we could get everything
changed over.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So really excited.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So the number there is five on three seven three
one eight nine eight nine. That number again, five on
three seven three one eight nine eight nine. And either
I or Mike will be happy to take care of
your phone calls and get you scheduled if you need
each type of work.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So really excited.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So all right, again the number to call five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five to one, three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Coming up. We've got uh coming up. We've got Andrew,
John and Ellen. You're listening to the Car Show on
fifty five KRC, the talk station.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Your opinions are welcome to your fifty five KRC the
talk station.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Taking your car questions again.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The number to call five one three seven four nine
fifty five hundred. That number again, five one three seven
four nine fifty five hundred, as promised. Let's go to
the phones. We've got Andrew. Hey, Andrew, welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We uh we Yeah, we spoke about a month ago
and I called in and I had the Elantra twenty
twenty that was always in the morning. Real sluggish, cold
I would say cold weather, but it's just most recently
I've been noticing it again. Real we're real sluggish upon startup,
almost dangerously so if I have to pull out of
(09:01):
my neighborhood onto a major street, I step on the gas,
it barely goes, so it's a little dangerous if there's
any traffic at all. And uh so I talked to
you first, thinking like you know, and then you'd mentioned
I will ask the dealer about the any computer updates,
So I want to give it up. I want to
give an update on this. She'll love this. So I
go there, I say you, are there any computer updates?
(09:22):
They say no, and of course, I explain the symptoms
I'm having, and then they say, okay, well we'll keep
it overnight, and they got me a loaner car.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And then after they keep.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It and they check it out for a couple of days,
they call me up and say, you know what, it's
going to need another complete transmission replacement. That'd be the
second one that had to have done on it. Yeah,
and so, and keep in mind that really these symptoms
that happened after the first complete transmission replacement. I had
the car for a couple of years and I didn't
have any of these issues. And anyhow, so this is
(09:53):
the party even gets even better. So though, I go
and I pick it up this week, and uh and
and then of course when I pick it up, it's
the middle of the day. They probably warmed it up
quite a bit, quite a bit before I get the car.
I mean, I waited about fifteen twenty minutes around the
porter around, and then I get in the car. I
drive it seems fine. Then then it was like the
middle of this week. Then the next couple of days
(10:14):
after that, I get it in the morning, started up
exactly the same symptoms I had originally.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh man, oh that's frustrating. You know, did they say
I'm sure they probably they're never going to say it,
but did they mention that it was a no, obviously
it's a known problem. Or did they say it was
a comment album?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, no, no, no, none of that. But I will
say this too that I got onto some forums online.
There's a Hyundai forum, and I just kind of I
kind of just searched with keywords like sluggishness and things
like that, and I am seeing some comments on about
censors being out, like if there's certain sensors that are dead,
maybe you know, there's nothing that's going to warn you
(10:54):
on your on your dash about it, or maybe even
in the maybe even in those computer hookups, you know,
I'm not sure. And some people said that might be
an issue. Another person said, what about the like the
climate control you've got your heater or whatever on is
that and the usuld like leave that off and see
if And sure enough I have left it off, and
it seems like that does help I mentally. I don't
(11:15):
know if that necessarily means, you know, there's something specific
to the environmental control system. It might just be still
be a third thing that's drawing on the engine. But
but yeah, I mean we're basically nothing. Nothing basically got
taken care of by replating the entire transmition.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Wow, and you never ever had problems until the first
transmission was replacing, and that's when you noticed it correct.
And I can't refresh my memory. What was wrong with
the first one? What happened there? Did it just completely
go out?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Or yeah? Yeah, so the first the first one, I'm
probably had it for like a year and a half
before the first one out, and that one was like
the like you got the lights on the dash, you know,
there was definitely some issues there. I can't remember all
the symptoms, but it wasn't like any of those symptoms
I was been talking about with this one, you know,
those those weren't in existence until after that first transmission
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was replaced, and then I started having those symptoms. Of course,
now we just got to starting one replaced, and yet
I still have the same symptoms. I wonder if there's
something inherent to these replacement transmissions that they're putting in.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean, Hyundai UHU for for a for a while,
I was really pumped about Hunta and Kia. They were
doing a phenomenal job, and that just lately, I would say,
from like eighteen and up, man, they are just they're
not doing very well. I'm seeing all kinds of engine issues.
I haven't seen any excuse me, transmission issues, but yeah,
(12:44):
I would probably say, I mean, I don't think the
air conditioning would have The only thing I could think
of is maybe if you had the defrost on or something,
and that compressor is kind of you know, going out
and it's creating that drag because you know, I'm assuming
it's it's a four cyonder, right, yeah, Yeah, So the
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only thing I could think of is when you've got
the air on, is with it being cold as it is,
you might have the defrost on and that compressed. When
you have the defrost on, it kicks the compressor on.
If the compressor's you know, dragon, it's gonna you know,
put a lot of strain on the engine, which would
call it sluggishness. That's the only thing that I could
think of when you said that, Hey, when the air's on,
(13:28):
it seemed to have changed. Yeah, but that's frustrating because
how long did they have the vehicle?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Probably for a while, didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They They had it for at least a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, okay, Well, and they said there was no there's
no software updates correct, there was nothing that they correct correct,
no updates.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And how many miles are only thirty five.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Okay, Diesel thirty five thousand miles.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You've already had it on its third transmission and you
still have the same problem. Yes, all right, Well, unfortunately,
what I tell you to do is get it back,
get it back to them, and uh.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, explain to him it's that it's not fixed.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I I you know, what's frustrating is like, obviously the
technician who probably looked at it and diagnosed it felt
it and that's why he recommended the transmission, But why
they recommended you picking it up, and how he didn't
you know, how he didn't notice that it was doing
the same thing exactly. And now I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I mean, it's happened.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I mean there's been times where I've fixed I've driven
a car with a noise or a vibration or whatever,
and we've we've done some work to it and it
didn't do it, and the customers like, yeah, it didn't
do it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
For a couple of days, but then it came back.
I mean, that does happen.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I'll get I'll give them the benefit of the doubt,
but I mean, you know, like you said, you were
waiting there for fifteen minutes, so it was probably warmed
up and you weren't gonna So now just get it
back and just tell them and then give me a
follow up to I want to know. Uh, obviously I
think there's something bigger going on here, because I I don't.
(15:10):
I'm wondering if they've just got a little bit of
tunnel vision. They're like, oh, you know, it's a known problem,
so I guess, you know, I don't know if they're
just guessing or what, but yeah, you shouldn't get that
type of treatment out of dealership.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So yeah, yeah, I haven't told them yet. It's only
been a couple of days since I got it back.
They did actually call, like they do these these typical
calls afterwards where they.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Say, how how was it?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
How was the service?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yep, how was your service? And I told him, I said,
is real nice, but the cars stopped working any better. Yeah,
but I haven't actually gone into the dealership.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, I was gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One day okay, all right, well you you call them
and then if you get a follow up, you call
me back.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Thanks, man appreciated.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hey, thanks every great weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Bye.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's frustrating, but that's something that I struggle with.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Uh, you know everybody, every mechanic struggles with.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, it can be sometimes sometimes it can be
frustrating and time consuming. And so all right, let's go
back to the phones. We've got John. Hey, John, welcome
to the show. Carsho. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yes, twenty eighteen Lincoln MKZ. What about sixty nine thousand miles?
I have a climate control Issu're going on with it?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Seems like when you run it for about a half
hour during that period of time you're driving for that
long a time, I get hardly any heat out of it.
Maybe it'll come on half hour forty five minutes later,
only stay on for maybe ten fifteen minutes at most,
and it goes back to cold. What I have noticed
is if you release the defrost button, that actually blows
(16:47):
out more cold er. So I don't know if it's
something to do with the it's a control system under
the DA somewhere, but I've been looking out online and
control valve or something.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well they called what they call it a blend or actuator.
That's what blends the heat and the cold air. Let
me ask you something. Does the vehicle have dual climate?
Meaning can the passenger and the driver have their own
separate temperature? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And is it cold on both sides?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Still cold on if you turned if you turn the
drivers to you know, however hot it gets ninety and
you turn the passenger up to ninety.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Are they both cold on both sides?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
No, there's someone has a mind to their own. One
time it might be working to where they're both the same,
and other times it will not be.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And is it primarily the driver side or the passenger
side that you're getting the cold air?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Primarily driver?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay? All right? So, and have you checked the coolant
level just to make sure that the coolant is full?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
I have not, But there's no sign of overheating. And
I really and I was reading where the anginal shut
its up down if it starts to overheat. That has
not happened. And we've been on recently, drove five hundred
miles in one day, and has never act acted up
as far as required.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And they'll cool it right, Okay, So most likely what
you have going on is the driver's side blend door motor. Okay,
driver's side blend door motor is most likely bad. It's
a pretty it's a cheap it's a cheap plastic part
and that's all it does. It's a little little metal,
(18:40):
uh not metal plastic motor that that's it just moved.
It closes and opens that door. It blends the heat
and the cold air. Okay, it's a very common you
said it was an eighteen MKZ. Yes, okay, I know that.
Basically on the mk Z, I know, you know that's
it's basically a four edge, you know, just you know
(19:02):
Ford makes it. It's a Lincoln blah blah blah. Very
common problem. I know that on the passenger side, the
blend door motor for the passenger side is like right
behind the glove box. On the driver side, it's basically.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Below the radio.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like where above like your foot where if your foot's on,
like above the gas pedal, that blend door motor is
is down that way. And we've replaced quite a bit
of those. So if it's hot on one side and
cold on the other, most likely the driver's side blend
door motor is bad. It's not a terribly expensive repair.
I I can't remember. I can't remember the last one
(19:47):
we did. I want to say, you know, maybe prices
have gone up, of course, like everything else, but I
want to say it was around installed. It was right
around four or five hundred bucks parts in lay about that.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But I thought that five dollars for the motor.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No, that's just that's parts and labor. The part is cheap.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean, the part's probably eighty bucks, one hundred bucks
and the rest of it's labor.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
We're talking now, we're talking sensible now, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, The part is believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean it's the part is about the size of
the It's about the size of the palm of your hand,
and it's all plastic and really it's probably about, you know,
a couple bucks in theory of what it probably costs
to make. But okay for charges.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
All right, let me ask you this. I saw this,
the very thing that you're talking about on the internet
and the guy's talking about you can get this thing
to activate and actually watch that little white louver move
it up and down. Correct a little cam system like
so now if that works, does that tell me or
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tell you that the Blend motor is Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Not necessarily, because what happens is the plastic gears strip out. Okay,
they strip out, so you know, obviously you got the
the motor's got a gear on it, and then the
actual the wheel that turns that door. Okay, it operates.
So what happens is those gears strip out. So you
might still see that thing moving and you and you
(21:20):
look at it and go, oh, it's moving.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So it's not a Blend door issue.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, if the gears are stripped out, you know, if
that door was you know, if that gear was, if
that door is you know, sometimes the doors can break too,
but just the big gear that op operates that door
could just be stripped out. So even though it's still
moving and you sit there and go, oh, it's not
a Blend door issue. But if the teeth are gone
on the gear, then it still could be a Blend
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door issue.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Also, it may not be moving the cam far.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Enough correct too, you know, And like I said, sometimes
the I have not seen that on the on the
Fords or the Lincolns.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Sometimes when that happens, the doors actually breaking.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You got to replace the whole heat case, which is
a nightmare and extremely expensive. But like I said, I
haven't seen one on that gear making model. Most likely
it's the blend door motor on the driver side. That's
what you need. And like I said, if you looked
at the watch the videos, you can see it's like
down by your your right foot above the gas pedal,
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and you take a cover off and you can see it.
And just because you can see that little white gear
moving on the outside does not necessarily mean that it's
not stripped out inside.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Was there any noise associated? Did you ever notice any type.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Of cund this and a couple of teeth it goes around.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yep, yes, sir. Like I said, it's a cheap part
and pretty common problem. So I'm fairly confident that's what
we're dealing with here, And like I said, it's not
horribly expensive.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I was on getting ready to go buy it apart
do this myself, and I just wanted to get some
more clarification for what I was seeing on the internet
was reliable.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I would tell you too, if you're gonna do it yourself,
which perfectly fine, you can do it. It's not a
fun job because it's underneath the dash. But get a
motocraft part. I would highly recommend just buying a motorcraft part.
And you can go to the dealer, or you can
go to Bill's Battery, which is it's on the west
side of town. You can go to anyone that sells motorcraft. Okay,
(23:22):
it doesn't you.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Don't do Does Napper sell motorcraft or do you know?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I do not believe NAPA carries motorcraft.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That I have seen is ok motorcraft?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Ko?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah? KOI sells motocraft, yeah, and KOI does I know
smyth automotive?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Does?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You can get it from the dealer, or you can
get it from Bill's Battery. But buy You can even
go on Amazon and buy it on Amazon. But buy
a motorcraft. I know it might you might be able
to find an aftermarket one that's a bit cheaper, but
do yourself the favor and just buy the If you're
gonna do it yourself, you're certainly gonna save your self
a tremendous amount of money just by the motorcraft because
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we've seen a lot of problems with the aftermarket ones.
They're just not the quality is just not there. Okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Agree, that's always the best rate.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, sir, all right, jam well, John, good luck to
you and uh, if you get it done, call me
back with an update.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
All right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Thank you, Hey, thank you, every great weekend. Bye bye.
All right again, I'm taking your phone call. So number
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one, three seven nine fifty five hundred.
Coming up. We've got we have Evelyn, Opie, John and Larry.
You're listening to the car show on fifty five KRC,
the talk station.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
We may not.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Old ways to agree, but we can agree on one thing.
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Speaker 1 (24:50):
Taking your car questions and number to call five on
three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one, three seven nine fifty five hundred. I am
Dane Donovan from Donovan Auto entire Center, and again earlier
at the beginning of the show. We have several locations
in the in the Cincinnati Greater Greater Cincinnati area, right
so pleasant Ridge, Blue Ash, Montgomery. And now it's technically
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if you look at it, it technically, says Nora would but
there's train tracks that divide us. So technically we're in
the city of Cincinnati, but just outside of Norwood, right
across the street from Xavier University. Again, it was a
business that had been established thirty four years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
It was called Auto.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Forin and we have the gentleman the owner had decided
he was going to retire, and I caught one of
it through some mutual friends and jumped at the opportunity
to expand, don of entire and allow us to you know,
help you and help the city of Cincinnati get all
these cars prepared and get you back out on the road.
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So again it was Auto Foreign it is and we
have I've purchased it and we're up and running. We
opened up the doors on Monday, and uh we had
them closed for a short amount of time just due
to you know, all the all the steps that we
had to go through in order to get everything going.
So extremely excited and I've got a great crew, and
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again we will be able to accommodate anybody, So it's
not going to be just foreign cars. We'll be able
to work on anything, just like all of our other locations.
So excited, and it's auto form but uh, For more information,
you can go.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
To Donovantyre dot com.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
So all right, as promise, let's go back to the phones.
We've got Evelyn. Hey, Evelyn, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Thanks for taking my car.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
My headlight is so blurred on the lands.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
How do you clean that off?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You're talking about the outside.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's kind of yellow or hazy. It's really hazy you
my headlight? Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
So what we do?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know, there's all kinds of little hacks online or whatnot,
use coke or this or that, but there is actually
and we do it at I don't know if all
the locations do it, but at my Ridge Road location, Uh,
there is actually a headlight restoration kit. So what happens
is the plastic that's on those headlights, there's a coating
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on them, and the sun, of course, you know, breaks
down that coating and then the plastic gets poor us
and allows that sun to get in. And that's what
the sun does that. So what we do is you
have to basically sand and strip it down to bare
plastic again and then reseal it. So we charge about
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at Ridge again. It's you know, each store's gonna be
a bit different, but we charge about one hundred and
fifty bucks and we and I'm telling you what it is,
night and day. I had to do it. I had
to do it to my own vehicle, and they, you know,
at Ridge, I've got a guy that does it. He
does a phenomenal whole job and it takes about an hour.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But basically you have to.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, yes, ma'am, you can buy it's the kit that
we use is McGuire's McGuire's and you will need there's
like a it's McGuire's Headlight restoration kit, but it comes
with you'll need like a drill to polish the headlights
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or whatnot, so just like a cordless drill. But it
comes with all the sandpaper. So you have to wet
sand it and there's three steps. You wet sand it
down to basically a clear plastic and then you polish.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
It and then you use a sealer to seal it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So and the kit, I think, don't hold me to this,
but I think the kit's maybe around fifty bucks, but
it's far cheaper than you know, trying to replace the headlights,
because it's going to be way too expensive. Okay, Yeah, McGuire's.
It's McGuire's headlight restoration kit. And again you can probably
watch a video of it and uh but uh yeah,
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that's what i'd recommend.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, you're very welcome. Have a great day. So
all right, let's go back to the phones we've got.
Let me look at the phones here. We've got John. Hey, John,
welcome to the car show. How can I help, ah Dane?
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You take off speaker. Last week I heard a couple
call in and they purchased an aftermarket module or a
market or a module for I guess with a PCUM
one evening, and you told them that the only option
they had was to take it to a dealer and
have a program that. I just wonder if you've ever
heard of a procedure called module cloning.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I have not.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Module cloning is where you take a defective module, okay,
which is pre programmed for the vehicle. You open it up,
you find the memory part, and the memory parts are
relatively easy to find. You attached to it with the
right tool, You read it. Then you move over to
your salvage, which is not programmed to that vehicle, and
you program it and that module becomes an identical clone
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and you just install it. There's no software to buy
and no subscriptions, none of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Is there anybody I know?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Is there anybody in this area that does that?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You know there ought to be, but I don't know
of anybody that does. There are YouTube videos which you know,
show you how to do it, if you just see
a search on module cloning, ECU cloning, things like that.
Garrett Garrett could do it from Gen's but I think
he's up to his eyeballs with just cluster work. But
the same memory part that's in a digital cluster is
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in an ECU, it's in an a mobilizer, it's in
an airbag. So once you learn to find it, you
can take a totally dead module, even one that will
communicate on the car's network, read that data out of
that part, and you literally move a connecting clip to
your salvage model and program it, and that model becomes
an identical clone. You just install it. There's no programming
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because the modules are now programmed to the car on
what you're working.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So that that chip that you're talking about is it
is it soldered into that board?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (31:10):
You do it in circuit you don't have to unsolderate.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, you have to unsold it.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
So no, no, no, you don't. You don't have to
un solderate.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You don't really not with the right tool.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
I mean you can get these cheap things from China
where you have to unsolder them, but not with a
good tool.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And you said, I know, I'm not familiar. Now is
this any module?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yes, any module with the with the some modules where
the designers have gone to proprietary software where you can't
connect to the to a standard memory part. Those those
you cannot do. And the only way to know is
to open up and look inside and see what parts
are are there. Okay, but if you got one, you
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can save tons of money and your cost of goods
is nothing. You know, you just and the time to
do it is open the module up, find the part
attached to the wart, read the part, move it, program
the part and you're finished. So you can do it.
What you can do with a cluster, you can do
with anything.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And you said Garrett can do it. Obviously, I know
he's the ees. He is a busy man. But you
said he can do that.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
He can, Yeah, he can if you if you talk
to Garrett about the memory parts are called ee proms. Okay,
if that stands for electrically a rasable program, we'll read
only memory. But you know that's the technology term. But
they're all standard. They're are and when the when the
design teams design a module, there there's only a few
parts they can go to to retain the vehicle specific
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information like mileage events or things like that. So when
you move it, everything moves. If you're doing a cluster,
the VEN moves, the mileage moves, and you just you know,
put it in and off you go. So I, you know,
I heard a couple call and I thought I would
at least call you and tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, because I'm not familiar with it. No, I'm not
familiar with that at all.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
You can't get modules these days, you know a lot
of modules. You know, you're your only option is a
salvage you're you know, especially if it's an older vehicle
and you get it, you put it in, it doesn't
work because it's you know, the VENDO doesn't match venlocked.
So if you you know, can have the right tool
and the tools are you know, typically depending on which
one you get, there less than five or six hundred bucks,
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and uh, you know you can you can do that,
but I just wanted to let you know that that
was an option. And probably the best source of information
is on YouTube. So if you go to YouTube and
search on ECU cloning, vehicle module cloning, something like that,
you know, I'm going to look.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Into the result. I'm going to look into that because
I I've not heard that and not heard that.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Okay, well that's the reason call absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Thank you so much trying to help help people outly.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Thanks John, You have a great day, you know. So, Yeah,
that's that's what's fun about and what I enjoy about
this business is just because I haven't seen it doesn't
mean it doesn't exist, right, And and uh that's interesting
module cloning. Know, I'm gonna look into that because, uh,
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I know Garrett very well. He owns spin Jean's Spentometer Shop,
which if you guys have any type of problem with
your uh spentometers, Jeans Spentometer is the way to go.
And Garrett's the owner and a great guy, does a
phenomenal job. And that's who I recommend if you have
any instrument cluster issues. Nowadays, the newer cars don't. But
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it was the older, older gms. I mean they were
just like, oh man, they're they're the They called him
Stepper Motors would go about all the time and he'd
rebuild them lifetime warranty and he's mobile. So he comes
to you, and I'm gonna call him on Monday and
ask about that. So all right again, taking your phone
calls and I'm gonna call five one, three, seven, fifty
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five hundred coming up. We've got Opie, Larry and Dave.
You listening to Car Show on fifty five KRC. The
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Brian Thomas weekday morning set five on fifty five KRC
and online and at fifty five KRC dot com.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five KRC.
Taking your car questions real quick. I want to get
to the phones because it's going to run out of time. Here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Let's go to Opie, Opey, Welcome to the car Show.
How can I help?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Before we get to my s ten here, you was
talking about batteries earlier. I had a battery in my
thirty two forward and I didn't keep a tender on
it or nothing, so it would sit from like October
until April and then I just charge it up and
go down the road it and I bought it it
Advance and it was their cheaper battery and it only
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lasted me fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Giez sol, Wow, fourteen you said that again.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I took it back in and I said, I can't
believe why this. I can't believe this thing's bad. And
they looked at daytot on they said, you realize this
battery is almost fifteen years old. Advance Gate. They gave
me a battery just in just.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
In the fact that just in all, because it lasted
almost fifteen years, that's that is impressive. I mean, the
longest battery I've ever seen was a motorcraft and I
was in a Ford Ranger and it was eleven years old.
But I've never heard of fourteen years old. That's impressive.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
And I normally I normally run X side batteries and everything. No,
only reason I bought that was because I was Indiana.
I was in Indiana on a Saturday night and Advance
was the only thing open. I needed one because the
other battery had dropped the cell. And it only lasted
fourteen and a half years.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And I just had.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I just had put batteries plural in my wife's theft
two fifty that was four years old.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
M hmm, yeah, they don't. They don't build anything with
quality anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
No, diel you got put two of it in diesels?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yep, I can't. Yeah, don't get me on that soap box.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I get so frustrated with the worksmanship and the quality
and cars today.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
It's just I mean, I'm sure you heard earlier.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I mean the gentleman, he's got a twenty two twenty
you know, Hyundai with thirty five thousand miles and it's
on his third transmission. I mean, come on, you know
I put.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Three hundred thousand miles on my thirty two Ford. I'm
only on second transmission.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You know. It's just, uh so, they don't make anything
with quality anymore. That's why I tell people like I
know him in the business to fix use cars. But
I mean, keep what you've got because it's just, oh,
it's just it's just garbage out there. So well, what
can I help you with?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
All right?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I just picked me up a brand new used S
ten four will drive and uh what what what got
going was? I had a code for the for the
bank one oxygen censor and I had it over where
my daughter, my daughter works changing oil. We had that
up on the rack and the pigtail for the auctionen
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center was laying up against the drive shafts if I
took it over, and you know, it was a drive one.
That was a drive one four post rack, so I
ordered auxtionen center. I took it over my other buddy's place.
He's got a two post lift where we get the
wheels up off the ground. We got it up, We
changed the oxygen sensor, and I want to check make
sure the four world drive was working and started up
and the front drive shaft was spinning and then when
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it hit the four world drive, then in games the
front it engaged the front differential. And this has got
that stupid push button for will drive instead of a
handle in the floor. I don't like the push button.
I wanted to drive truck and it was a good deal.
So so on these because my eye had a z
R two and it had to handle in the floor
and that drive and it didn't lock the front drive
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shaft in until you pulled.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The handle right.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
So so and I know these electronics, they're vacuum over
electric and it's a really stupid design.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Stupid, it's a stupid design.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yeah yeah, but but the front differential does engage, which
that's a big problem on these. This is number nineteen
for Stens that I've had over the years. I love
these trucks.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Wow, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Between stns and S ten Blazers clean me and my
life and my daughter, we've had nineteen.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Of them, bro like all like nineteen total or like
nineteen throughout the course of your life.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Yeah, we've had nineteen half tends in five years.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
I love them. But so I mean, is that on
these on the the electric transfer case, is that front
drivescaft supposed to spin all the time?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Man?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
He said the newer Jeeks, the front drive scaft spends
all the time until you pulled the handle in there
and it uses vacuum and locks in the front hugs.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
So I didn't know if this S ten was the
same way.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
You know what, I don't I do know that? Yeah, Like,
like I have n F ONM fifteen.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
That's the way mine is is when I pushed that button,
it activates the vacuum and that's what kicks in the
the vacuum hubs. But on an O two it's an
O two S ten right, yep, let me.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I I I want to say yes, I think that's
how they operate because it's got that stupid vacuum system
and and the vacuum system is it's uh, the vacuum
system itself is below the battery on the passenger side.
And sometimes well, this has got the thing.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
It's got a big module on the on the bottom
of the front differential. Yeah, this does well with the cable.
This has got the deal where it's right right on
the different on the bottom of the front dip.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Then I would I would say yes, and that's probably
how it operates. But are there are there vacuum lines
going to that module at all? It's just all okay, yeah,
I I I want to say the based bon because
I mean I want to say yes that that that
that should be normal, that should how that should be
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how it operates.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
And I know that there's some type of vacuum.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
There's some type of vacuum you know what do you
want to call it?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Vacuum bank or whatever?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That I that sometimes will fill fill up with transmission
fluid and whatnot. It's below the battery and let me
find out. I don't know off the top of my head.
I I will, I'll look into that.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
And uh, I just want I just wanted to make
sure because that, you know, if that front drive chaft
ain't supposed to be spinning, the that's putting next to
wear and tear on my front you joints.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And probably using more gas as well.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
And and and eat and get gas mileage. But like
I said, my jeep guy, he didn't know about He
didn't know about chival as he worked on jeeps, they said,
the jeep, the jeeps, the transfer case. The transfer case
basically stays locked in for will drive all the time
until it locks the front differential in and locks the
hubs in.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I want to say that the
way it's operating, yes it doesn't. It stays in four
wheel drive, but then once you put it in four
wheel drive, it engages that front differential. I want to say,
that's right. I think that's normal. But I'll find out
and then you call me back. Uh. Well, fortunately, next Saturday,
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something's going on and I'm not able to.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Do the ship to you next Saturday, because we have
our cars and coffee at horse Power Farm.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, yeah, you called me. Okay, all right, yep. I'm
going to a charity event tonight as well for cancer
free kids for my son. So yeah, so all right, well,
all right, we'll call me.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
I've been down that. I've been down that cancer road
with my wife. She's a breast cancer survivor.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
So yeah, my son was diagnosed. Yeah, my son was
diagnosed at two and a half and he's in remission
and he's he's doing great.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
And uh, we're going to a fundraiser to.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know, help other uh you know, future families and
children's them.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
All right, call me in two weeks. I'll have an
answer for you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You have a great weekend, all right, thank you? All right,
all right, bye bye? All right, real quick, Larry. Welcome Larry.
I'm so sorry. I want to get to you. I
don't want to cut you off short, but I have
to what's going on.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
So I would just follow up with our conversation about
I had a twenty fifteen Chivalroy Colorado and you said
to go talk to GM Garage about updates, and we
kind of figured it out.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It's actually the nature of the beasts. It's related to
the mass airflow sensor and what it does.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Okay, what it does.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
They're coming across the mass airflow. It measures mass airflow
sensors can measure temperature, if I'm remembered correctly. And what
it bounce up to is when it gets cold, it
tells that the engine is eating consuming more air at
the time, and that's in shooting more fuel in to
the motor.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Okay, okay, all right, okay, that makes sense. Well, hey, listen,
I appreciate you. I gotta I'm so sorry to cut
you off shortly. Call me back in two weeks. I'd
love to take your car question. So that makes sense.
It's gonna run a little bit richer when it's cold.
I mean that that that's that's gonna happen. But anyways, everybody,
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have a great weekend. I'll be back to take to
answer all of your car questions. Uh be safe and
uh thank you so much for all the cars calls.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five k
r c D talk station.
My pappy said, son, you're gonna drive me to drinking
if you don't stop driving out hot rod Lincoln were
rocking all the lady.
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Pretty easy down.
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The road going jes keep cut in.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the car show. I'm dan done.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm taking all of your car questions, and then I'm
gonna call five one three fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. Uh, it's
a glorious, beautiful sixty degree Saturday.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Now, I'm lyine.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It was sixty degrees in the middle of the week
and uh, here we are back in the twenties and
it was snowing this morning, and uh and then we're
gonna be back up in the sixties in the middle
of the week this coming week. And uh, now, wonder
if my nose is running? And we've all got sign
the issues and allergy issues. I know all my boys do,
and uh they've already started their allergy medicine as well.
(00:57):
It's just hard to adapt and adjust to this. But
I mean the most part, right, we've pretty had it.
It's been a pretty mild winter so far. And uh man,
that's that's that's what February has been January was great.
January was very busy, we were really busy, and then
February has been a little soft. But again, uh, January
(01:20):
was a bit colder than it was here in February.
But but again, you know, it's it's it's you know,
people need car probably or people need car.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't need. People always have car problems.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
In fact, yesterday I was late for work because I
had left early, and my wife said, uh, you know,
you're gonna need to take the boys to school because
my car won't start.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Battery's dead as a door nail.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And of course we've we just bought the car maybe
like six months ago.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But I mean I did everything I had. I had
it and it was used.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It wasn't brand new, but I had it inspected and whatnot.
I shouldn't say I had it inspected. I inspected the
vehicle and the battery tested fine then and there was
absolutely no indications, right, no indications at all. I wasn't
cranking slow or anything. She just I mean, it was
dead as a doornow she drove it. Uh Thursday night,
(02:21):
my oldest son had baseball practice. She dropped him off.
I picked him up she made dinner in the in
the morning. Nothing was left on, no doors were open, no,
you know, no lights left on. Nothing it was and
when I so, I ended up taking the boys to school,
Like I said.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
This is it even happens to me. I do it
every day.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And that's the thing is, like, you know, going back
to batteries, batteries have a the typical shelf life of
a battery.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I shouldn't say shelf life typical.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The average life of a battery in this region is
about three to four years.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And you know, so now's the time to get them
tested because again, you know, the other thing that can
be frustrating is I can test your battery today and
it'd be dead as a doornail tomorrow. That is a
possibility now most of the time, though, I can test
that battery and at Donovan's, at all of our locations,
we'll test them for free and give you honest opinion
(03:20):
on whether or not you need one. Okay, I mean
I can test the battery today and it'd be bad
and it lasts you for six more months a year.
I mean, that's possibility. Or I can test the day
it tests good and tomorrow was dead as a doornail.
I mean when I went to went home to jump
my wife's vehicle, it only had three point two volts.
I was it. You know, for those of you out
(03:41):
there are the average bat you know, batteries got to
be twelve volts and it was at three point two
and there was nothing left on. So so, I mean,
it happens, but you know, think about that. I mean,
that's something that we don't think about, and a lot
of people think that. You know, batteries are supposed to last,
you know, five, eight, ten years, now three to four
years in this region, that's about it, so get them tested.
(04:04):
In fact, it's funny. I do have some exciting news
as well. But one of my employees as well. I
called him and I said, hey, listen, I'm gonna be late.
I had to take my kids to school.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I said.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
My wife's car wouldn't start, so I had take him
to school. And he goes, well, my jeep wouldn't start either.
My battery was dead. So, you know, to have two
employees at the same location that have can't get their
car started because they have battery issues is a bit ironic.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So about three weeks ago, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Put it out there that I had some kind of
big news and maybe if you were listening right at
the beginning of the show, some exciting news.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So we have extended the Donovan.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, I shouldn't say empire, but Donovan franchise, family business
and recently purchased another business another location. Okay, so gives
you more options when need car repair. So it is
at It was a it was a four. It was
a repair shop that had been in business for thirty
(05:08):
four years and the gentleman that was that owned it
was ready to retire and I caught wind of it
and kind of jumped at the opportunity to take it over.
And they have a great customer base, great employees and uh,
like I said, I jumped at the but there was
things that we had to jump through as far as
(05:28):
get you know, all the legal stuff or whatnot. But
exciting news to and ready to announce that we have
again extended the Donovan Empire and have a new location.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
It is uh, it was formerly Auto Foreign Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
For those of you familiar with the kind of downtown
Norwood area, it's at the corner. It's at thirty seven
hundred Montgomery Road at the corner of Montgomery Road and
Dana Okay, right across the street from Xavier University. Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Again it was formerly Auto.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Foreign and we will we will continue to take care
of their customer base and foreign cars and UH extremely
excited and UH we opened up the doors Monday as
as the you know, basically as Donovance UH, you know,
but excited. So if you're in that area, if you're
in the Montgomery Road Dana Norwood area, again, we have
(06:26):
opened up another location, UH to help you with all
of your car needs, anything that you need for your
vehicle in that area, we can take care of you
or any of the locations. Again we have the Ridge
Road location, pleasant Ridge location in the Blue Ash location.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So exciting news.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
If if you need any more information as far as
the number, address or anything like that, you can just
go to donovantire dot com and it will have all
of our hours, operations, location, our story. You can even
schedule all appointment from UH from our website as well.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So exciting news.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And if anybody is in that area any any type
of car repair, I will be there Monday through Friday
to take care of all of your car needs. UH
for quite some time until I can get acclimated to
the customer base and the and uh really excited to
hit the road running right and uh get things going
(07:18):
and ramped up. Like I said, it was an existing
business for thirty four years and the owner was looking
to retire and took over and excited.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So it's been, it's been. This week was a whirlwind.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Uh, it was great.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A little bit of a slow start, right because we're
getting amped back up again because there was some time
that the doors were closed until we could get everything
changed over.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So really excited.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So the number there is five on three seven three
one eight nine eight nine. That number again, five on
three seven three one eight nine eight nine. And either
I or Mike will be happy to take care of
your phone calls and get you scheduled if you need
each type of work.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So really excited.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So all right, again the number to call five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five to one, three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Coming up. We've got uh coming up. We've got Andrew,
John and Ellen. You're listening to the Car Show on
fifty five KRC, the talk station.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Your opinions are welcome to your fifty five KRC the
talk station.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Taking your car questions again.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The number to call five one three seven four nine
fifty five hundred. That number again, five one three seven
four nine fifty five hundred, as promised. Let's go to
the phones. We've got Andrew. Hey, Andrew, welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We uh we Yeah, we spoke about a month ago
and I called in and I had the Elantra twenty
twenty that was always in the morning. Real sluggish, cold
I would say cold weather, but it's just most recently
I've been noticing it again. Real we're real sluggish upon startup,
almost dangerously so if I have to pull out of
(09:01):
my neighborhood onto a major street, I step on the gas,
it barely goes, so it's a little dangerous if there's
any traffic at all. And uh so I talked to
you first, thinking like you know, and then you'd mentioned
I will ask the dealer about the any computer updates,
So I want to give it up. I want to
give an update on this. She'll love this. So I
go there, I say you, are there any computer updates?
(09:22):
They say no, and of course, I explain the symptoms
I'm having, and then they say, okay, well we'll keep
it overnight, and they got me a loaner car.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And then after they keep.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It and they check it out for a couple of days,
they call me up and say, you know what, it's
going to need another complete transmission replacement. That'd be the
second one that had to have done on it. Yeah,
and so, and keep in mind that really these symptoms
that happened after the first complete transmission replacement. I had
the car for a couple of years and I didn't
have any of these issues. And anyhow, so this is
(09:53):
the party even gets even better. So though, I go
and I pick it up this week, and uh and
and then of course when I pick it up, it's
the middle of the day. They probably warmed it up
quite a bit, quite a bit before I get the car.
I mean, I waited about fifteen twenty minutes around the
porter around, and then I get in the car. I
drive it seems fine. Then then it was like the
middle of this week. Then the next couple of days
(10:14):
after that, I get it in the morning, started up
exactly the same symptoms I had originally.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh man, oh that's frustrating. You know, did they say
I'm sure they probably they're never going to say it,
but did they mention that it was a no, obviously
it's a known problem. Or did they say it was
a comment album?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, no, no, no, none of that. But I will
say this too that I got onto some forums online.
There's a Hyundai forum, and I just kind of I
kind of just searched with keywords like sluggishness and things
like that, and I am seeing some comments on about
censors being out, like if there's certain sensors that are dead,
maybe you know, there's nothing that's going to warn you
(10:54):
on your on your dash about it, or maybe even
in the maybe even in those computer hookups, you know,
I'm not sure. And some people said that might be
an issue. Another person said, what about the like the
climate control you've got your heater or whatever on is
that and the usuld like leave that off and see
if And sure enough I have left it off, and
it seems like that does help I mentally. I don't
(11:15):
know if that necessarily means, you know, there's something specific
to the environmental control system. It might just be still
be a third thing that's drawing on the engine. But
but yeah, I mean we're basically nothing. Nothing basically got
taken care of by replating the entire transmition.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Wow, and you never ever had problems until the first
transmission was replacing, and that's when you noticed it correct.
And I can't refresh my memory. What was wrong with
the first one? What happened there? Did it just completely
go out?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Or yeah? Yeah, so the first the first one, I'm
probably had it for like a year and a half
before the first one out, and that one was like
the like you got the lights on the dash, you know,
there was definitely some issues there. I can't remember all
the symptoms, but it wasn't like any of those symptoms
I was been talking about with this one, you know,
those those weren't in existence until after that first transmission
(12:05):
was replaced, and then I started having those symptoms. Of course,
now we just got to starting one replaced, and yet
I still have the same symptoms. I wonder if there's
something inherent to these replacement transmissions that they're putting in.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean, Hyundai UHU for for a for a while,
I was really pumped about Hunta and Kia. They were
doing a phenomenal job, and that just lately, I would say,
from like eighteen and up, man, they are just they're
not doing very well. I'm seeing all kinds of engine issues.
I haven't seen any excuse me, transmission issues, but yeah,
(12:44):
I would probably say, I mean, I don't think the
air conditioning would have The only thing I could think
of is maybe if you had the defrost on or something,
and that compressor is kind of you know, going out
and it's creating that drag because you know, I'm assuming
it's it's a four cyonder, right, yeah, Yeah, So the
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only thing I could think of is when you've got
the air on, is with it being cold as it is,
you might have the defrost on and that compressed. When
you have the defrost on, it kicks the compressor on.
If the compressor's you know, dragon, it's gonna you know,
put a lot of strain on the engine, which would
call it sluggishness. That's the only thing that I could
think of when you said that, Hey, when the air's on,
(13:28):
it seemed to have changed. Yeah, but that's frustrating because
how long did they have the vehicle?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Probably for a while, didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They They had it for at least a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, okay, Well, and they said there was no there's
no software updates correct, there was nothing that they correct correct,
no updates.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And how many miles are only thirty five.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Okay, Diesel thirty five thousand miles.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You've already had it on its third transmission and you
still have the same problem. Yes, all right, Well, unfortunately,
what I tell you to do is get it back,
get it back to them, and uh.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, explain to him it's that it's not fixed.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I I you know, what's frustrating is like, obviously the
technician who probably looked at it and diagnosed it felt
it and that's why he recommended the transmission, But why
they recommended you picking it up, and how he didn't
you know, how he didn't notice that it was doing
the same thing exactly. And now I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I mean, it's happened.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I mean there's been times where I've fixed I've driven
a car with a noise or a vibration or whatever,
and we've we've done some work to it and it
didn't do it, and the customers like, yeah, it didn't
do it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
For a couple of days, but then it came back.
I mean, that does happen.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I'll get I'll give them the benefit of the doubt,
but I mean, you know, like you said, you were
waiting there for fifteen minutes, so it was probably warmed
up and you weren't gonna So now just get it
back and just tell them and then give me a
follow up to I want to know. Uh, obviously I
think there's something bigger going on here, because I I don't.
(15:10):
I'm wondering if they've just got a little bit of
tunnel vision. They're like, oh, you know, it's a known problem,
so I guess, you know, I don't know if they're
just guessing or what, but yeah, you shouldn't get that
type of treatment out of dealership.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So yeah, yeah, I haven't told them yet. It's only
been a couple of days since I got it back.
They did actually call, like they do these these typical
calls afterwards where they.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Say, how how was it?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
How was the service?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yep, how was your service? And I told him, I said,
is real nice, but the cars stopped working any better. Yeah,
but I haven't actually gone into the dealership.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, I was gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One day okay, all right, well you you call them
and then if you get a follow up, you call
me back.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Thanks, man appreciated.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hey, thanks every great weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Bye.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's frustrating, but that's something that I struggle with.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Uh, you know everybody, every mechanic struggles with.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, it can be sometimes sometimes it can be
frustrating and time consuming. And so all right, let's go
back to the phones. We've got John. Hey, John, welcome
to the show. Carsho. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yes, twenty eighteen Lincoln MKZ. What about sixty nine thousand miles?
I have a climate control Issu're going on with it?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Seems like when you run it for about a half
hour during that period of time you're driving for that
long a time, I get hardly any heat out of it.
Maybe it'll come on half hour forty five minutes later,
only stay on for maybe ten fifteen minutes at most,
and it goes back to cold. What I have noticed
is if you release the defrost button, that actually blows
(16:47):
out more cold er. So I don't know if it's
something to do with the it's a control system under
the DA somewhere, but I've been looking out online and
control valve or something.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well they called what they call it a blend or actuator.
That's what blends the heat and the cold air. Let
me ask you something. Does the vehicle have dual climate?
Meaning can the passenger and the driver have their own
separate temperature? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And is it cold on both sides?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Still cold on if you turned if you turn the
drivers to you know, however hot it gets ninety and
you turn the passenger up to ninety.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Are they both cold on both sides?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
No, there's someone has a mind to their own. One
time it might be working to where they're both the same,
and other times it will not be.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And is it primarily the driver side or the passenger
side that you're getting the cold air?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Primarily driver?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay? All right? So, and have you checked the coolant
level just to make sure that the coolant is full?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
I have not, But there's no sign of overheating. And
I really and I was reading where the anginal shut
its up down if it starts to overheat. That has
not happened. And we've been on recently, drove five hundred
miles in one day, and has never act acted up
as far as required.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And they'll cool it right, Okay, So most likely what
you have going on is the driver's side blend door motor. Okay,
driver's side blend door motor is most likely bad. It's
a pretty it's a cheap it's a cheap plastic part
and that's all it does. It's a little little metal,
(18:40):
uh not metal plastic motor that that's it just moved.
It closes and opens that door. It blends the heat
and the cold air. Okay, it's a very common you
said it was an eighteen MKZ. Yes, okay, I know that.
Basically on the mk Z, I know, you know that's
it's basically a four edge, you know, just you know
(19:02):
Ford makes it. It's a Lincoln blah blah blah. Very
common problem. I know that on the passenger side, the
blend door motor for the passenger side is like right
behind the glove box. On the driver side, it's basically.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Below the radio.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like where above like your foot where if your foot's on,
like above the gas pedal, that blend door motor is
is down that way. And we've replaced quite a bit
of those. So if it's hot on one side and
cold on the other, most likely the driver's side blend
door motor is bad. It's not a terribly expensive repair.
I I can't remember. I can't remember the last one
(19:47):
we did. I want to say, you know, maybe prices
have gone up, of course, like everything else, but I
want to say it was around installed. It was right
around four or five hundred bucks parts in lay about that.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But I thought that five dollars for the motor.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No, that's just that's parts and labor. The part is cheap.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean, the part's probably eighty bucks, one hundred bucks
and the rest of it's labor.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
We're talking now, we're talking sensible now, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, The part is believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean it's the part is about the size of
the It's about the size of the palm of your hand,
and it's all plastic and really it's probably about, you know,
a couple bucks in theory of what it probably costs
to make. But okay for charges.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
All right, let me ask you this. I saw this,
the very thing that you're talking about on the internet
and the guy's talking about you can get this thing
to activate and actually watch that little white louver move
it up and down. Correct a little cam system like
so now if that works, does that tell me or
(20:53):
tell you that the Blend motor is Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Not necessarily, because what happens is the plastic gears strip out. Okay,
they strip out, so you know, obviously you got the
the motor's got a gear on it, and then the
actual the wheel that turns that door. Okay, it operates.
So what happens is those gears strip out. So you
might still see that thing moving and you and you
(21:20):
look at it and go, oh, it's moving.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
So it's not a Blend door issue.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, if the gears are stripped out, you know, if
that door was you know, if that gear was, if
that door is you know, sometimes the doors can break too,
but just the big gear that op operates that door
could just be stripped out. So even though it's still
moving and you sit there and go, oh, it's not
a Blend door issue. But if the teeth are gone
on the gear, then it still could be a Blend
(21:44):
door issue.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Also, it may not be moving the cam far.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Enough correct too, you know, And like I said, sometimes
the I have not seen that on the on the
Fords or the Lincolns.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Sometimes when that happens, the doors actually breaking.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You got to replace the whole heat case, which is
a nightmare and extremely expensive. But like I said, I
haven't seen one on that gear making model. Most likely
it's the blend door motor on the driver side. That's
what you need. And like I said, if you looked
at the watch the videos, you can see it's like
down by your your right foot above the gas pedal,
(22:22):
and you take a cover off and you can see it.
And just because you can see that little white gear
moving on the outside does not necessarily mean that it's
not stripped out inside.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Was there any noise associated? Did you ever notice any type.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Of cund this and a couple of teeth it goes around.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yep, yes, sir. Like I said, it's a cheap part
and pretty common problem. So I'm fairly confident that's what
we're dealing with here, And like I said, it's not
horribly expensive.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I was on getting ready to go buy it apart
do this myself, and I just wanted to get some
more clarification for what I was seeing on the internet
was reliable.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I would tell you too, if you're gonna do it yourself,
which perfectly fine, you can do it. It's not a
fun job because it's underneath the dash. But get a
motocraft part. I would highly recommend just buying a motorcraft part.
And you can go to the dealer, or you can
go to Bill's Battery, which is it's on the west
side of town. You can go to anyone that sells motorcraft. Okay,
(23:22):
it doesn't you.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Don't do Does Napper sell motorcraft or do you know?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I do not believe NAPA carries motorcraft.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That I have seen is ok motorcraft?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Ko?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah? KOI sells motocraft, yeah, and KOI does I know
smyth automotive?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Does?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You can get it from the dealer, or you can
get it from Bill's Battery. But buy You can even
go on Amazon and buy it on Amazon. But buy
a motorcraft. I know it might you might be able
to find an aftermarket one that's a bit cheaper, but
do yourself the favor and just buy the If you're
gonna do it yourself, you're certainly gonna save your self
a tremendous amount of money just by the motorcraft because
(24:03):
we've seen a lot of problems with the aftermarket ones.
They're just not the quality is just not there. Okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Agree, that's always the best rate.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, sir, all right, jam well, John, good luck to
you and uh, if you get it done, call me
back with an update.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
All right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Thank you, Hey, thank you, every great weekend. Bye bye.
All right again, I'm taking your phone call. So number
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one, three seven nine fifty five hundred.
Coming up. We've got we have Evelyn, Opie, John and Larry.
You're listening to the car show on fifty five KRC,
the talk station.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
We may not.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Old ways to agree, but we can agree on one thing.
Fifty five KRC is the talk station.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Taking your car questions and number to call five on
three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one, three seven nine fifty five hundred. I am
Dane Donovan from Donovan Auto entire Center, and again earlier
at the beginning of the show. We have several locations
in the in the Cincinnati Greater Greater Cincinnati area, right
so pleasant Ridge, Blue Ash, Montgomery. And now it's technically
(25:17):
if you look at it, it technically, says Nora would but
there's train tracks that divide us. So technically we're in
the city of Cincinnati, but just outside of Norwood, right
across the street from Xavier University. Again, it was a
business that had been established thirty four years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
It was called Auto.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Forin and we have the gentleman the owner had decided
he was going to retire, and I caught one of
it through some mutual friends and jumped at the opportunity
to expand, don of entire and allow us to you know,
help you and help the city of Cincinnati get all
these cars prepared and get you back out on the road.
(25:56):
So again it was Auto Foreign it is and we
have I've purchased it and we're up and running. We
opened up the doors on Monday, and uh we had
them closed for a short amount of time just due
to you know, all the all the steps that we
had to go through in order to get everything going.
So extremely excited and I've got a great crew, and
(26:20):
again we will be able to accommodate anybody, So it's
not going to be just foreign cars. We'll be able
to work on anything, just like all of our other locations.
So excited, and it's auto form but uh, For more information,
you can go.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
To Donovantyre dot com.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
So all right, as promise, let's go back to the phones.
We've got Evelyn. Hey, Evelyn, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Thanks for taking my car.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
My headlight is so blurred on the lands.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
How do you clean that off?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You're talking about the outside.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's kind of yellow or hazy. It's really hazy you
my headlight? Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
So what we do?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know, there's all kinds of little hacks online or whatnot,
use coke or this or that, but there is actually
and we do it at I don't know if all
the locations do it, but at my Ridge Road location, Uh,
there is actually a headlight restoration kit. So what happens
is the plastic that's on those headlights, there's a coating
(27:23):
on them, and the sun, of course, you know, breaks
down that coating and then the plastic gets poor us
and allows that sun to get in. And that's what
the sun does that. So what we do is you
have to basically sand and strip it down to bare
plastic again and then reseal it. So we charge about
(27:43):
at Ridge again. It's you know, each store's gonna be
a bit different, but we charge about one hundred and
fifty bucks and we and I'm telling you what it is,
night and day. I had to do it. I had
to do it to my own vehicle, and they, you know,
at Ridge, I've got a guy that does it. He
does a phenomenal whole job and it takes about an hour.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But basically you have to.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, yes, ma'am, you can buy it's the kit that
we use is McGuire's McGuire's and you will need there's
like a it's McGuire's Headlight restoration kit, but it comes
with you'll need like a drill to polish the headlights
(28:26):
or whatnot, so just like a cordless drill. But it
comes with all the sandpaper. So you have to wet
sand it and there's three steps. You wet sand it
down to basically a clear plastic and then you polish.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
It and then you use a sealer to seal it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So and the kit, I think, don't hold me to this,
but I think the kit's maybe around fifty bucks, but
it's far cheaper than you know, trying to replace the headlights,
because it's going to be way too expensive. Okay, Yeah, McGuire's.
It's McGuire's headlight restoration kit. And again you can probably
watch a video of it and uh but uh yeah,
(29:03):
that's what i'd recommend.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, you're very welcome. Have a great day. So
all right, let's go back to the phones we've got.
Let me look at the phones here. We've got John. Hey, John,
welcome to the car show. How can I help, ah Dane?
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You take off speaker. Last week I heard a couple
call in and they purchased an aftermarket module or a
market or a module for I guess with a PCUM
one evening, and you told them that the only option
they had was to take it to a dealer and
have a program that. I just wonder if you've ever
heard of a procedure called module cloning.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I have not.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Module cloning is where you take a defective module, okay,
which is pre programmed for the vehicle. You open it up,
you find the memory part, and the memory parts are
relatively easy to find. You attached to it with the
right tool, You read it. Then you move over to
your salvage, which is not programmed to that vehicle, and
you program it and that module becomes an identical clone
(30:05):
and you just install it. There's no software to buy
and no subscriptions, none of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Is there anybody I know?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Is there anybody in this area that does that?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You know there ought to be, but I don't know
of anybody that does. There are YouTube videos which you know,
show you how to do it, if you just see
a search on module cloning, ECU cloning, things like that.
Garrett Garrett could do it from Gen's but I think
he's up to his eyeballs with just cluster work. But
the same memory part that's in a digital cluster is
(30:41):
in an ECU, it's in an a mobilizer, it's in
an airbag. So once you learn to find it, you
can take a totally dead module, even one that will
communicate on the car's network, read that data out of
that part, and you literally move a connecting clip to
your salvage model and program it, and that model becomes
an identical clone. You just install it. There's no programming
(31:01):
because the modules are now programmed to the car on
what you're working.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So that that chip that you're talking about is it
is it soldered into that board?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (31:10):
You do it in circuit you don't have to unsolderate.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, you have to unsold it.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
So no, no, no, you don't. You don't have to
un solderate.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You don't really not with the right tool.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
I mean you can get these cheap things from China
where you have to unsolder them, but not with a
good tool.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And you said, I know, I'm not familiar. Now is
this any module?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yes, any module with the with the some modules where
the designers have gone to proprietary software where you can't
connect to the to a standard memory part. Those those
you cannot do. And the only way to know is
to open up and look inside and see what parts
are are there. Okay, but if you got one, you
(31:50):
can save tons of money and your cost of goods
is nothing. You know, you just and the time to
do it is open the module up, find the part
attached to the wart, read the part, move it, program
the part and you're finished. So you can do it.
What you can do with a cluster, you can do
with anything.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And you said Garrett can do it. Obviously, I know
he's the ees. He is a busy man. But you
said he can do that.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
He can, Yeah, he can if you if you talk
to Garrett about the memory parts are called ee proms. Okay,
if that stands for electrically a rasable program, we'll read
only memory. But you know that's the technology term. But
they're all standard. They're are and when the when the
design teams design a module, there there's only a few
parts they can go to to retain the vehicle specific
(32:35):
information like mileage events or things like that. So when
you move it, everything moves. If you're doing a cluster,
the VEN moves, the mileage moves, and you just you know,
put it in and off you go. So I, you know,
I heard a couple call and I thought I would
at least call you and tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, because I'm not familiar with it. No, I'm not
familiar with that at all.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
You can't get modules these days, you know a lot
of modules. You know, you're your only option is a
salvage you're you know, especially if it's an older vehicle
and you get it, you put it in, it doesn't
work because it's you know, the VENDO doesn't match venlocked.
So if you you know, can have the right tool
and the tools are you know, typically depending on which
one you get, there less than five or six hundred bucks,
(33:17):
and uh, you know you can you can do that,
but I just wanted to let you know that that
was an option. And probably the best source of information
is on YouTube. So if you go to YouTube and
search on ECU cloning, vehicle module cloning, something like that,
you know, I'm going to look.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Into the result. I'm going to look into that because
I I've not heard that and not heard that.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Okay, well that's the reason call absolutely.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Thank you so much trying to help help people outly.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Thanks John, You have a great day, you know. So, Yeah,
that's that's what's fun about and what I enjoy about
this business is just because I haven't seen it doesn't
mean it doesn't exist, right, And and uh that's interesting
module cloning. Know, I'm gonna look into that because, uh,
(34:07):
I know Garrett very well. He owns spin Jean's Spentometer Shop,
which if you guys have any type of problem with
your uh spentometers, Jeans Spentometer is the way to go.
And Garrett's the owner and a great guy, does a
phenomenal job. And that's who I recommend if you have
any instrument cluster issues. Nowadays, the newer cars don't. But
(34:28):
it was the older, older gms. I mean they were
just like, oh man, they're they're the They called him
Stepper Motors would go about all the time and he'd
rebuild them lifetime warranty and he's mobile. So he comes
to you, and I'm gonna call him on Monday and
ask about that. So all right again, taking your phone
calls and I'm gonna call five one, three, seven, fifty
(34:48):
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Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five KRC.
Taking your car questions real quick. I want to get
to the phones because it's going to run out of time. Here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Let's go to Opie, Opey, Welcome to the car Show.
How can I help?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Before we get to my s ten here, you was
talking about batteries earlier. I had a battery in my
thirty two forward and I didn't keep a tender on
it or nothing, so it would sit from like October
until April and then I just charge it up and
go down the road it and I bought it it
Advance and it was their cheaper battery and it only
(35:39):
lasted me fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Giez sol, Wow, fourteen you said that again.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I took it back in and I said, I can't
believe why this. I can't believe this thing's bad. And
they looked at daytot on they said, you realize this
battery is almost fifteen years old. Advance Gate. They gave
me a battery just in just.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
In the fact that just in all, because it lasted
almost fifteen years, that's that is impressive. I mean, the
longest battery I've ever seen was a motorcraft and I
was in a Ford Ranger and it was eleven years old.
But I've never heard of fourteen years old. That's impressive.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
And I normally I normally run X side batteries and everything. No,
only reason I bought that was because I was Indiana.
I was in Indiana on a Saturday night and Advance
was the only thing open. I needed one because the
other battery had dropped the cell. And it only lasted
fourteen and a half years.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And I just had.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I just had put batteries plural in my wife's theft
two fifty that was four years old.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
M hmm, yeah, they don't. They don't build anything with
quality anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
No, diel you got put two of it in diesels?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yep, I can't. Yeah, don't get me on that soap box.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I get so frustrated with the worksmanship and the quality
and cars today.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
It's just I mean, I'm sure you heard earlier.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I mean the gentleman, he's got a twenty two twenty
you know, Hyundai with thirty five thousand miles and it's
on his third transmission. I mean, come on, you know
I put.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Three hundred thousand miles on my thirty two Ford. I'm
only on second transmission.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You know. It's just, uh so, they don't make anything
with quality anymore. That's why I tell people like I
know him in the business to fix use cars. But
I mean, keep what you've got because it's just, oh,
it's just it's just garbage out there. So well, what
can I help you with?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
All right?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I just picked me up a brand new used S
ten four will drive and uh what what what got
going was? I had a code for the for the
bank one oxygen censor and I had it over where
my daughter, my daughter works changing oil. We had that
up on the rack and the pigtail for the auctionen
(37:49):
center was laying up against the drive shafts if I
took it over, and you know, it was a drive one.
That was a drive one four post rack, so I
ordered auxtionen center. I took it over my other buddy's place.
He's got a two post lift where we get the
wheels up off the ground. We got it up, We
changed the oxygen sensor, and I want to check make
sure the four world drive was working and started up
and the front drive shaft was spinning and then when
(38:12):
it hit the four world drive, then in games the
front it engaged the front differential. And this has got
that stupid push button for will drive instead of a
handle in the floor. I don't like the push button.
I wanted to drive truck and it was a good deal.
So so on these because my eye had a z
R two and it had to handle in the floor
and that drive and it didn't lock the front drive
(38:33):
shaft in until you pulled.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The handle right.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
So so and I know these electronics, they're vacuum over
electric and it's a really stupid design.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Stupid, it's a stupid design.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yeah yeah, but but the front differential does engage, which
that's a big problem on these. This is number nineteen
for Stens that I've had over the years. I love
these trucks.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Wow, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Between stns and S ten Blazers clean me and my
life and my daughter, we've had nineteen.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Of them, bro like all like nineteen total or like
nineteen throughout the course of your life.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Yeah, we've had nineteen half tends in five years.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
I love them. But so I mean, is that on
these on the the electric transfer case, is that front
drivescaft supposed to spin all the time?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Man?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
He said the newer Jeeks, the front drive scaft spends
all the time until you pulled the handle in there
and it uses vacuum and locks in the front hugs.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
So I didn't know if this S ten was the
same way.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
You know what, I don't I do know that? Yeah, Like,
like I have n F ONM fifteen.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
That's the way mine is is when I pushed that button,
it activates the vacuum and that's what kicks in the
the vacuum hubs. But on an O two it's an
O two S ten right, yep, let me.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I I I want to say yes, I think that's
how they operate because it's got that stupid vacuum system
and and the vacuum system is it's uh, the vacuum
system itself is below the battery on the passenger side.
And sometimes well, this has got the thing.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
It's got a big module on the on the bottom
of the front differential. Yeah, this does well with the cable.
This has got the deal where it's right right on
the different on the bottom of the front dip.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Then I would I would say yes, and that's probably
how it operates. But are there are there vacuum lines
going to that module at all? It's just all okay, yeah,
I I I want to say the based bon because
I mean I want to say yes that that that
that should be normal, that should how that should be
(41:02):
how it operates.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
And I know that there's some type of vacuum.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
There's some type of vacuum you know what do you
want to call it?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Vacuum bank or whatever?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That I that sometimes will fill fill up with transmission
fluid and whatnot. It's below the battery and let me
find out. I don't know off the top of my head.
I I will, I'll look into that.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
And uh, I just want I just wanted to make
sure because that, you know, if that front drive chaft
ain't supposed to be spinning, the that's putting next to
wear and tear on my front you joints.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And probably using more gas as well.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
And and and eat and get gas mileage. But like
I said, my jeep guy, he didn't know about He
didn't know about chival as he worked on jeeps, they said,
the jeep, the jeeps, the transfer case. The transfer case
basically stays locked in for will drive all the time
until it locks the front differential in and locks the
hubs in.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I want to say that the
way it's operating, yes it doesn't. It stays in four
wheel drive, but then once you put it in four
wheel drive, it engages that front differential. I want to say,
that's right. I think that's normal. But I'll find out
and then you call me back. Uh. Well, fortunately, next Saturday,
(42:15):
something's going on and I'm not able to.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Do the ship to you next Saturday, because we have
our cars and coffee at horse Power Farm.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, yeah, you called me. Okay, all right, yep. I'm
going to a charity event tonight as well for cancer
free kids for my son. So yeah, so all right, well,
all right, we'll call me.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
I've been down that. I've been down that cancer road
with my wife. She's a breast cancer survivor.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
So yeah, my son was diagnosed. Yeah, my son was
diagnosed at two and a half and he's in remission
and he's he's doing great.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
And uh, we're going to a fundraiser to.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know, help other uh you know, future families and
children's them.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
All right, call me in two weeks. I'll have an
answer for you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You have a great weekend, all right, thank you? All right,
all right, bye bye? All right, real quick, Larry. Welcome Larry.
I'm so sorry. I want to get to you. I
don't want to cut you off short, but I have
to what's going on.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
So I would just follow up with our conversation about
I had a twenty fifteen Chivalroy Colorado and you said
to go talk to GM Garage about updates, and we
kind of figured it out.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It's actually the nature of the beasts. It's related to
the mass airflow sensor and what it does.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Okay, what it does.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
They're coming across the mass airflow. It measures mass airflow
sensors can measure temperature, if I'm remembered correctly. And what
it bounce up to is when it gets cold, it
tells that the engine is eating consuming more air at
the time, and that's in shooting more fuel in to
the motor.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Okay, okay, all right, okay, that makes sense. Well, hey, listen,
I appreciate you. I gotta I'm so sorry to cut
you off shortly. Call me back in two weeks. I'd
love to take your car question. So that makes sense.
It's gonna run a little bit richer when it's cold.
I mean that that that's that's gonna happen. But anyways, everybody,
(44:17):
have a great weekend. I'll be back to take to
answer all of your car questions. Uh be safe and
uh thank you so much for all the cars calls.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
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