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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Phrase, Ma Chevy to the limit. That's a little so
good afternoon, and welcome to the car show. I am
Dame Donovan taking all of your car questions.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
The number to call five to one three seven number again,
five one, three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Last
week was a short show due to basketball, but I
am here for a full hour and would love to
hear your car questions. So again, that's what I'm here for.
Love to hear from me again. The number to call
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. I

(00:43):
hope everybody is enjoying this wonderful weather we're having right
It's like almost forty degrees. Never thought I'd say it,
but forty degrees. I'm you know, my kids are walking
out of the house without a h without a jacket
on because they're so warm and uh so, Like I
said last week, we were in Florida right after Christmas

(01:04):
and it was seventy and sunny, and then we came
back to the Snowmageddon and man, it has it been
bitterly cold, and I mean it down to the point
where it's just like, man, it hurts to walk outside.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
But you know what, we have to keep chucking on.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We have to keep our cars rocking and rolling and
ready to go and make sure that it's ready for
this weather.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
And you know I led up to this back in
November and December.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Right, it is something that we have to make sure
that our cars are ready and prepared for whatever Mother
Nature brings us.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I know that in years in the past, right, we've
we've had some pretty mild, pretty mild winters and we
haven't it's not been too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
But I'll tell you what, man, we are busy, busy.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Uh, because there's a lot of things that break when
it gets this cold. A lot of door lock actuators, batteries, starters, alternators,
wiper blades, door handles.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean, you name it.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
When it gets this cold, you know, you know, a
lot of things break. And we have been very blessed,
but very busy at Donovan Tire. And again you can
go to donovantire dot com and find your nearest location.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
We have three.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We've got one we have one in blue Ash one
plus Ridge in our newest location.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
And just outside of Norwood.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's it's technically Evanston, but I mean when I say
outside of nord I'm talking a set of train tracks.
Set of train tracks sets us apart from Norwood to Evanston.
So but it's at the corner of Data and Montgomery,
right there by Xavier University. So if you know where
Xavier is, we are close by. So again, I'm taking
your phone calls and we'll call five one, three, seven,

(02:46):
nine fifty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Again.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I hope everybody's having a great twenty twenty five. It's
been a very cold and bitter twenty twenty five. But
for the most part, uh, for the Donovans and the
Donovan family, you know, we're all doing well. So but
I do want to talk about and again it looks
like the phones are lighting up.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I really do appreciate it. I'm gonna get to all
of our callers today. So if you're.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Listening you want me to get to you, please call now,
simply because a lot of times at the kind of
towards the end of the show.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm short somebody.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I have to cut somebody off and have them come back,
call back the next day.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm sorry the next week.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
But if you've got a question, please call Love to
talk to you, Love to try to help you with
your car problems. Car questions or whatever. But what I
want to talk about. And I've talked about this before
on the show. And a great customer came in yesterday.
She bought a brand new Ford Bronco. Right, and she
came in and she goes, dang, I just bought this car.

(03:46):
I said, man, looks great. And she goes, hands me
this pamphlet and says, hey, they want me to buy
this warranty for the car, and what are your thoughts?
So I looked at it and I'm like, Okay, this
is an aftermarket warranty. Okay, most of you who listen regularly,
I am completely against these things. And I felt that

(04:08):
I needed to talk about it again and reiterate to people.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I recently had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself,
first one and I'm forty years old, first one I've
ever purchased, forty years of my life, first new car
I ever purchased.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's a four.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
And again, very blessed and grateful that I got that opportunity.
And when I was purchasing purchasing it, I asked if
there was any type of extended factory warranty. Now this
is important. Extended factory warranty. Listen to me here. It's

(04:46):
very important if you're purchasing a new vehicle and you
do want to have added protection because these cars, again
you say, I mean most of your cars are you know,
if you buy an suv or a truck or whatnot.
I mean these things are starting fifty sixty, seventy eighty thousand,
you know, I mean some of them are one hundred
thous Right, you want to make sure that you protect
when I say investment, I understand it's a depreciating asset,
but you want to protect.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
It, right.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
You want to make sure that if all these vehicles
nowadays have all these electronics, they've got all this technology,
and that's great and a lot of it saves lives,
but it comes at a cost of a cost that
if it fails or breaks, it's going to cost you
a lot of money. Right, So, if you're in the
market to buy a new vehicle, okay, a new vehicle,

(05:28):
ask your salesperson if there is an extended factory warranty. Okay,
I asked my salesman, I said, hey, do you have
an extended factor warranty? And guess what they do? So
when I purchased my Ford. It was a you know,
the standard across the board for all makes and models is,
except for Hyundai and Kia, three years thirty six thousand miles. Okay,

(05:52):
three years thirty six thousand miles. Now that's great, but
you know, we tend to keep our cars longer. And
this gets more and more expensive as you know, as
it goes on. So I purchased my extended factory warranty
to a seven year, one hundred thousand mile warranty. Now, yes,
did it cost me an additional amount of money, yes, okay,

(06:15):
but it is an extended factory warranty. Okay again, let
me I want to beat this in your head. Factory warranty.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
This young lady came in, she goes, dang, they want
me to buy this warranty and it's thirty five hundred
dollars and what are your thoughts? And I looked at it,
and I said, you don't want that. Okay, that's an
aftermarket warranty. And she's like, well, you know it's going
to cover this this it's it's I'm covered at I
think it was ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles,
and and you know it. You know, it's thirty five

(06:48):
hundred bucks. And I said listen, and she agreed with me,
and she was she was like, hey, I'm here to
listen to what you have to say. And you know,
these after market warranties are garbage. Okay, they are a
waste of your money. Please, you know they want to
sell it to you. And yes, you know it seems

(07:10):
like it's it's just just this great thing and you're
going to be covered. Okay, I can tell you first
handedly that what I see that they, what these warranty
companies do to people is h in my opinion of crime. Okay,
First of all, they do not cover any type of diagnostic.
They do not cover shop supply fees. They do not

(07:32):
cover any type of uh you know diet. Well, I
said diagnostic, but they do not cover diagnostic. They don't
cover yeah, you know, they'll only cover certain amounts, so
dependent upon the warranty company.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So, uh, if you go to a shop that there
their labor rates one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour,
well your your aftermark warrant companies, oh, we'll only pay
seventy five, right, and so you end up really you
end up paying for these repairs. Anyways. You might get
a little bit off of it, but you don't. They don't,

(08:11):
you know, they want to present this as like this
is just this great thing and you're gonna be covered.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And I've seen it time and time again that you know,
these people buy these these aftermarket warranties and they really
don't cover anything.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And I used to say that it was kind of
like catastrophic, right.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was like, oh, you know, if your engine fails, right,
but I have a great customer, great customer, Honda Pilot
purchases it, pays I think five thousand dollars for this
aftermarket warranty and purchases it, and lo and behold, it's
a Honda great product.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Engine fails. Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Now, if you open up his little pamphlet that's covered.
Engine is covered, it says that, right. So I call
the warranty company and they say, well, yeah, the engine's covered,
but we're gonna send our technician out to look at
the vehicle, all right. So now we're waiting three or
four days before they send their technician out, basically to
verify that what I, you know, said it needed. That's

(09:07):
what their technician said, so, now they don't give you
any type of loaner car aning like that. So now
you're waiting three or four days. Now what they tell
me is, okay, yep, engines locked up, but we need
you to tear that engine apart and find out exactly
what caused the failure inside the engine.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh and by the way, we're not going to cover
you to tear that engine down and find out exactly
what's going to cause the engine.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know, we're not gonna cover that. The customer needs
to pay for that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So now the customer's on the hook for about you know,
two three thousand dollars for me to take that engine out,
tear it apart, and find exactly what part in that
engine failed.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, Now, I explained to.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The warranting come, I said, well, what if I tear
it all apart, I can't find exactly what part failed,
well then we wan cover anything.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And to me, that was completely dishonest.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
And I'm like, so, I'm like, you want the customer
to pay three thousand dollars for me to tear that
engine out, tear it apart, find what failed. And if
I can't find anything, that failed in the customer not
only has to pay three thousand, but then he has
to pay another ten thousand for an engine. Yes, and
that was the last straw for me that led me
to was like, just never again am I gonna ever

(10:28):
recommend an aftermarket warranty company, because this gentleman in the
literature says that the engine was covered. And what they
did to this gentleman again, to me, was criminal. So
I wanted to again reiterate, if you're buying a new car,
please ask if they have an extended factory warranty. If not,

(10:49):
do not buy any type of aftermarket warranty. Okay, it's
a waste of your money.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Take that.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
If it's thirty five, This young lady that was at
the shop yesterday, it's five hundred.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Take that money.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Put in stock market, right, You're gonna earn hopefully five
to eight percent on it. And and if something does
happen in one hundred thousand miles, that money's grown and
you're gonna you know, so, please don't buy an after
market warranty. If anybody out there listen, has have I
seen in the past that somebody does have one and
it's covered some of their cost yes, okay, you see

(11:24):
them on the commer, on the on the TV all
the time.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm bombarded with him.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I see him all the time, you know, on social media,
on TV or whatnot. And you know, my blood pressure
starts to raise because from my perspective, what I've seen,
what they do to people is criminal, and I just
I just don't recommend them. So if you're going again,
if you're buying one, please don't buy an after market warrnty.

(11:48):
Just take the money and put it in the stock
market and or invested in something, and you know you're
better off.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Okay, So all right, Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
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Speaker 3 (12:12):
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
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Station Welcome back, taking your car question. The number to
call five one, three seven. The phones are lighting up,
so I really do appreciate it. I want to get
to everybody's phone calls.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I again, I am Dane Donovan, Donovan's Auto entire Center.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
So let's go to the phones. We have Paul, Hey, Paul,
welcome to the car show. How can I help? Hey?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Day?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, I talked to you a month or so ago.
I was kind of disassemble an engine and the pistons
were stuck.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
M h I remember that.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I managed to get the other two out, so for
the other three whatever, So I'm just following up. I
got to wound up having to go forty over on
the on the cylinders to clean them up. Uh huh,
maybe maybe more more involved in it. It is practical

(13:47):
at this point for a pounds, so it's forty over
on those. I had to take ten off the journals
and clean them up. I got to set of pistons
and bearings and everything to put it back together without
at the junk yard this morning picking up cam shafts
to the couple of the lobes were kind of spaulled

(14:10):
on on the ones that were in the engine.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Mm hmm. So where where did you get the pistons
at did you buy new pistons?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, new pistons, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Right, So you got new pistons, but you said you're
putting bearings okay, and you got all that new yeah, okay.
But the cams you said you you got used cams.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, the ones that were like I said, the ones
that were in it had each had one lobe that
was starting to spall, which they had a which they
had a problem in the early years of the element
engines like that. So use the same cams and some
of the accord engines. So I found found in the
cord with a nice looking.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Said okay, what about uh what about the timing chain
and guides?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Are you are you put I'm gonna put I'm gonna
put news.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
In Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I was gonna say, if you're if you're going in
there doing what I call like it's kind of like
open heart surgery on a on an engine like that.
You want to make sure you put new guys, new tensioner, uh,
new chain.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
You want to make sure that you don't have to
go back in there again.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And debating with I'll by try and check
the curances on the oil pump. And I don't know
whether I want to go to the extent of putting
a new pump in it, but.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean I I I've never seen a I've
never seen a Honda pump oil pump fail, So I
think you'd be all right there. But I would definitely
make sure you do the you're gonna go to the
length of what you're doing, make sure you do, uh,
I would do. And also to save yourself some money,
to make sure you get like a timing chain kit, right,

(15:47):
so it has everything in it, because if you buy
everything individually, it's gonna be pretty costly. And since you're
doing since you're you know, doing it yourself, just buy
a kit uh and uh, and just replace it all
that way, You're you're good in Golden.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
All right, all right, Paul, Well, thank you for the call.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You have a great weekend. Call me up with the
follow up. I want I want to hear this thing running.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
All right.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
All right, Well you take care of have a great day.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right, let's go back to the phones. We've got Rich. Hey, Rich,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
I'm looking for a used car, and I want to
get something that's both reliable and durable. And I'm not
afraid of older cars. Fact I prefer them.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
What's your opinion on the Panther platform for cars? You
said the Pound, Vic, Crown, Vix and Grand Marquis and oh.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Man, if you can get one and find one, I'd
buy it all day long.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think in my opinion that was probably my opinion.
That was probably the best car for what ever made.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean those things, I've never I've never ever
seen anybody kill one of those things.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Never.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean you can't.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
They're like they're like they are their tanks. I mean
they are almost indestructible.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
I've seen a lot of good, good things on them?
What about you know one thing I'm looking at. Of
course they're going to be older because they stopped making
them what fourteen years ago? And and I know I
sometimes have a problem with cars that are older, not

(17:38):
necessarily high mileage, but because I know time is an
enemy of parts as much or not as much. But
you know, in addition to where how old is too old?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know what, that's a great question. And you know here,
I'm not worried about age. What I'm worried about is
where it's been most of its life. So if you're
buying a I mean, if you could find a two
thousand and eight Crown Vic that was spent its entire
life up in New York, I'd be like, run, I
don't care if it has five thousand miles on it,

(18:18):
if it's been sitting outside in New York, been driving,
get away from it.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Run.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
You got a Crown Vic that's an O eight Crown
Vic that has one hundred and fifty thousand miles and
it's been down south, you know, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana,
something like that. I'd be more inclined to buy a
car that's down there so really it's it's conditions.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
That I'm not worried about age. I'm not worried about mileage.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's the conditions of the vehicle and where it's spent
most of its life. Right, So you know, if you've
got a car that's been sitting outside its entire life,
I wouldn't recommend probably buying it, And if you do,
you make sure that you get it in before you
buy it, because I've just seen so a lot of
cars and I this happens all the time. I can

(19:08):
get a car and look at it, do a used
car inspection on it, get it and it's just covered
in russ and it's like, man on the outside, looks great, Right,
you get up in the air, it's a whole another story.
And I'm like, I guarantee this car came from come
up from up north. So what they do is like
all those cars up in New York, Pennsylvania, you know,
all those cars up north, they ship them down here

(19:29):
and they're just a rusted bucket, just a mess.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So again, I'm not necessarily worried about age.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I mean, I would probably say anything two thousand and up,
you'll be all.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Right, okay, And one of the things that I see
a lot on especially the Crown well with the Crown
Vics as opposed to the Grand Marquis, is that the
police insis. I don't know. That kind of scares me
a little bit because they sit in the idol so much. Yeah,

(20:00):
is that a concern or not?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
No, No, I mean it's a little bit of a concern.
I mean if you buy you know, if you buy
an old uh, you know police cruiser that yeah, yes,
it does have a lot of idle hours. And what
you see because I mean even like like up in
uh you know, a lot of cab drivers years ago
had those things and you'd see them like smoke and

(20:22):
burn a little bit oil because of the rings. But man,
I tell you what, I've never ever seen one fail.
If you can get one that doesn't have a lot
of idle hours, and you can look at that on
the most of the time, if it's new or if
it's like an eight two that you know, I can't
remember exactly what year they quit making the Crown Vic.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I wish they never would have stopped. I wish they
would have never stopped me that car was. That was
phenomenal vehicle and I love.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
I love the rear drive. I mean, there's a lot
to love about those old cars.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, but again, idle hours don't necessarily scare me too
much as well, you know, I mean, you know a
lot of those cruisers have you know, one hundred thousand
miles on them, and yeah, they have a lot of
idle hours, but it still doesn't.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well that's correct, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Just do what I would tell you is the best
advice I can give you is just whatever, when you
find one, make sure again you find out where where.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
It came from.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Right, if it came from northern States or what we
call the Ross Belt. Right, even Ohio is not as
bad as like Pennsylvania, Michigan, you know, New York or whatnot.
Find out where it came from, where it originated, and
find out about it. I mean, if you buy one
from I would probably say from Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia,
and farther down south probably the better. But just make

(21:50):
sure that when you find one, you just get it
inspected by a mechanic. And you know, sometimes you might
find hey, Dane, I found one in you know, southern California,
well a rebut shop down there and have it inspected
before you buy the thing.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
That's all I ask. And just make sure that Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
I've got one that I've found in in uh northern Georgia. Okay,
that looks like a pretty nice car. There you go,
love fairly love mile agent. The prices at liar that
I want to pay, but it might it might not
scare me off.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
But it might be it might be worth it because
if it's been spending, if it's been in Georgia most
of its life, and there's probably not any rust in it.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Yeah, what about what about cars here locally around? Now
I'm in northern Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Uh, cars locally here will find Northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, you know, Dayton, Uh, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
You know you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
But if again, just because there might be a dealership
in Cincinnati that has a crown vic right and a dealership.
But that car may have came from New York. So
you just want to make sure you checked spend the money.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Some dealerships don't.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, get the car fax, find out where it came from,
what it originated, and look at the vehicle history on
it and make sure that I mean, if it's spent
most of its time in Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, Indiana. You're fine,
but if it's been shipped from Michigan or Pennsylvania or
something like that, I would steer clear.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Okay, all right, thanks love, all right, thank.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You, all right, take care, have a great weekend. Bye bye,
all right again.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
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Speaker 2 (24:11):
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Speaker 1 (24:16):
I got to get back.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
To the phones immediately because the phones are lighting up
and I really want to get to everybody's question. So
let's go to the phones.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
We have Greg. Hey, Greg, welcome to the car Show.
How can I help?

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Oh, I've got a twenty twenty one Kia K five,
and I don't know if you're familiar with the oil
filter and the plastic cup that holds it on the bottom,
and the drain plug that it also has them.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, I mean, should be pretty similar to most of
what they have, but it's the you said, the K five.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yes, okay, what's going on with it? You got? Are
you having problems with?

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Now? I've got fifty five thousand miles on I change
oil every five thousand miles and I changed it about
twenty four hundred miles ago, and this morning there was
oil on my driveway. Okay, so I changed the filter
out again. I guess an O ring. There's an O
ring on the cup and an O ring in that

(25:15):
drain blood. But the whole apparatus seems ridiculously Chinsey.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, welcome the new Welcome to the car market.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
So I don't know if if it makes a difference
who I buy the oil filters from.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Uh you know, I mean or no, well, no necessarily.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean, did you see the oil Was it coming
out of that plastic cap or coming out from that
O ring?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
It looked like it was coming out of the cap
more at the top rather than the drain plug because
it was wet up high.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, are you talking about that little plug at the time,
the drain plug at the bottom you're on the oil pan.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Yeah, the plastic cups down below. There's a like a
twenty two millimeter wrench.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Right to get that for the oil filter, yep.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah, And there's like a pin that goes in with
a T shape and you put it up in and
then twist it lock it and I guess it keeps
the filter from turning inside there. I don't know, but
but it seems like more like it's just a drain
to drain the cup. So when you take it off,
you don't get drenched with oil, right, you do anyway,

(26:39):
So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It doesn't matter. Yeah, is your oil filter housing. Is
it above like underneath the hood or is it underneath
the vehicle?

Speaker 6 (26:47):
It's on the bottom underneath the vehicle, Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean and you said you replace the filter and
the ring, and it seemed to be coming.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
From that that ring from the cap.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Right, But it was bone dry for twenty four hundred
miles and I don't know. Maybe the cold had something
to do with it.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I mean you could.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I mean it could because you know that you know
that little O rings rubber, right, and you know.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
With heat and whatnot, things expand and contract.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Where did you get the filter from?

Speaker 6 (27:23):
I think was O'Reilly's, Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
You know, I do see is it was it like
their house brand or whatnot?

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Probably I didn't ask. I just right, they're hard to
find it. It's like a special order and sometimes they
don't come in and just.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And you're yeah, and you're doing the ol change yourself correct, right?
I mean yeah. A lot of times what we see
is two things.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
One, I mean the cap itself and the housing I'm
sure is perfectly fine.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Two things.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
What we see is a lot of times when you
go to tighten it up, that little O ring will
get a cut in it. A small cut or you
can tear it. I mean it's happened to us. I mean,
my guys do these things all day long, and they'll
put one in and they just go to tighten it
up like they're supposed to, and when tightening it, they
it rips and will cause a leak. I would type

(28:19):
of I mean, I would recommend if you're gonna if
you're doing it yourself, I would just probably get the
filter from Kia. Uh, the rubber rings, correct, Yeah, I mean,
I you know, I don't. I don't necessarily, I'm not
opposed to buying aftermarket, but typically it depends on what

(28:42):
you're buying. But aftermarket, typically the quality is not as
good as the dealer.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
That rubber gasket that you put in there probably.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Just it's probably just the qualities is probably not there.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I mean, it happens to us.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
But did you end up getting the same oil filter
or did you buy a different brand this time?

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I got the same one. I put it in and
drove from Anderson Township to Montgomery and it doesn't leak
a drop. Okay yet?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Did you yeah, did you inspect the old ring, the
old o ring, just to see if there's any type
of tear. I mean, I mean we're talking about not
even like it doesn't have to be completely cut, like
completely torn.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I mean you can have a hairline crack in those
things and or just throw it away.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean I saved it, but I'll look more
closely at it. I thought I saw like a sliver
of some sort. So what you're saying is probably exactly right.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I mean, it doesn't take much.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
And again a lot of times there might not be
anything wrong with that gasket.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And then just when you go to tighten it up.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
What I would recommend when you do so when you
put that new over ring on, do you take some
of the old oil and just kind of run your
finger over that ring.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
I use the new oil, but but I do do that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Because I mean that would prevent too from anything tearing.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Possibly because basically you're lubricating that gasket just to make
sure that when you're tightening it down it doesn't get
a tear. So but I have seen Listen, we put on,
you know, hundreds of filters a week, and yeah, I
mean every once in a while you get maybe a
manufacturer defect or they go to put it on. The

(30:31):
technician didn't do anything wrong, and it just it tears
when they tighten it up, and you know.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
People calling like, hey, I got an oil leak.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now after you guys changed my oh and come back,
and sure enough there's there's a little hairline cut or
tear in that O ring.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
So it happens, and it's just surprised it took twenty
four hundred miles for it to begin leaking.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well, and again, I mean it could be a little
bit of.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
The rubber O ring, the quality of the product, right,
just from getting hot cold, hot cold as cold as
it's been, right, that thing swells and then it gets
So it could be a little bit of the weather
factor too, because you know, is it really made out
of rubber or some type of synthetic you know.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
So yeah, there's there's a lot of expansion and contraction
going on.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
So and again, I mean, you know again, I mean
I've I've had people like, you know, we put a
we change your oil, and they don't have a single problem.
And then five thousand miles later the oil filters leaking, right,
wasn't leaking before it went five thousand miles and then
it started leaking. So it happens I don't think there's
any I don't think there's any concern.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Just make sure you keep your eye on it. And yeah,
just keep your eye on it. And if you can.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Buy the one from Kiya, I know it's gonna be
a little bit more. But you know, if you're doing
it yourself, you're already And I've always been a big
proponent of this. If you're doing it yourself, spend the
money on the on the on the the good filter
and and to go by. All right again, I'm taking
your phone calls and I'm gonna call five one, three,
seven fifty five hundred, although I don't know that I'm

(32:08):
gonna be able to get to everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm so sorry. I've also I've said this a ton
of times on the show. If you're doing your own car.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Repair, which I absolutely you know, man, there's a lot
of people out there that can do this stuff right.
And if you're working on your own car, you're already
saving your your yourself a tremendous amount of money, right.
So I've always said that if you're going to do
it yourself, please buy a quality part.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm not knocking after market parts or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
But if you're already doing it. You're already saving yourself
a ton of money. Buy a good quality part. It's
really does make a difference, makes a difference, and you're
gonna get better quality and.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's the most likely the part's gonna last longer. Okay.
You know, I could use a.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Good analogy if you're like, hey, you know your doc's like, hey,
we're gonna have to go ahead and replace a you know,
a valve in your heart. Do you want the cheapest
one you can buy, Yeah, it probably lasts you about
another ten years.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Or do you want to buy the more expensive one and.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You know, probably live to one hundred years old. Most
of us would say, hey, give me the good one.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's a little extreme, But what I'm saying is, you
know you're already doing the work. You're already saving yourself
the money on labor and whatnot. Buy the good quality part, okay,
And there's an easy way to do it. I'm not
saying you have to buy it from the dealer, but
you can do a little bit of research and find
a good quality part.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
If you've got a Ford, you want to buy a motorcraft.
If you've got a GM, you want to buy ac Delco.
If you have a Toyota, you want to buy Denzo.
If you have a Hana Denzo, if you have a Hyundai,
you can do Denzo as well.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So you just want to make sure that you're buying
a good quality part. If you're doing the work yourself.
And again I applaud you, great job for doing it,
and a lot of people do like doing it.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know, it's a.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Saturday for today, it's forty degrees. It feels like a
you know, nice spring day. But you know, you want
to make sure that you you know, not having to
go back in there and do it again. Right, So,
all right again, taking your phone calls another to call
five one, three seven nine fifty five hundred coming up.
We have Joel, George, Robin Jerry. You're listening to the

(34:31):
Car show on fifty five krs the talk station.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
I have been a customer of Donovan's for ten years.
It's not always easy to find a mechanic that you
can trust, that isn't going to take advantage of you.
They treated me respectfully, not talk down to me. There
are mechanics right down the road, but I chose to
keep coming back here because they treated me as family,
so much so that four years ago I started working here.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Hi Dale Donovan from Donovan's Otto entire Center, the honest
choice for car repair in Cincinnati since nineteen fifty eight.
Find the one nearest to you at Donovantyre dot com.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Taking your car questions and uh here every Saturday to
answer all of them.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I am Dean Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Let's get back to the phones we have Joel, Hey, Joel,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
How can I help? Hello?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
I have a twenty thirteen Camray with a one hundred
and fifty six thousand miles on it. And when I
bought it, I'm sure it road better. I wouldn't have
bought it. And it's an SE. Okay, so I think
it has a stepper suspension. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
M I don't. I don't think the AL.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I haven't got an answer from the Toyota dealer.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
You No, I don't think the SE or the ELI
are going to have a different suspension that should be
the same.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Uh. Well, maybe stiffer roll bars.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Uh the sway bars.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah? Well, I mean, but that doesn't help the ride anyway.
It seems like the ride is getting stiffer and stiffer
all the time. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and
but don that's not that funny. But I'm just wondering shocks.

(36:33):
I see them go bad and there's just going crazy.
There's no shock available, and then but mine or stiff,
I mean, what's the deal?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, typically when you when a when a shock
or a strut is going bad, you typically will have
a bouncy ride, right, not a stiff ride, but like
a really.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Really bouncing Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Yeah, I seen them. Yeah, Okay, I understand how it
works and everything. And they should have not called them
shock absorbers in the first place.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
They should have.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Called them spring damp the nurse.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Yeah, but that's what they are.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's what they are. You're right, it's a lot of
there's a lot of confusion again.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of confusion too, because there's
there's shocks and in their struts, and it's like, what's
the difference, And shocks don't have a spring around them.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Struts due and yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, if you have one hundred and fifty thousand miles.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I think it would be a good idea to replace them. Now,
when I say that, though it's very expensive, is this
something that you would do yourself or would you take
it to a mechanic?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (37:44):
No, I probably won't even do either one right now?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Okay, yeah, because I mean it's probably.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
God, it's probably twenty it's probably about two grand, twenty
two hundred dollars to put.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
All new, all new struts on that that camera.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
No, it's expense to shape that information. I'll tell my
wife and she'll say, no, I won't get it done.
I won't get it.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Done, all right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, if it's
a stiff ride, it could just be like you said, uh,
maybe maybe just you personally, maybe you just feel like
it's riding stiffer. But typically when a shock or strut
is worn out, you're gonna get a bouncy ride, right,
You're gonna go over bump and the whole thing's just

(38:28):
kind of bouncing. But man, at one hundred and fifty
thousand miles, it would be a good idea to do it.
But if they're not blown out, I'd have it inspected
by a mechanic. If the if the strut itself is
not physically leaking any fluid, then I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Worry about it.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Yeah, well, I know it's not okay. I can't get
under it to look, but okay, all right, I'm taking time.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
All right, Joel, thank you, you have a great day.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
All right, let's go back to the phones we have George, Hey, George,
welcome the car show.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
How kind of hell?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Thank you for taking my car down, sir, I have
a twenty fifteen gmc Terrain four cylinder with one hundred
and two thousand miles. Well satisfied with the vehicle. I
noticed during this cold weather, I'm getting more moisture out
the tailpipe than usual, a little more. And with this

(39:23):
moisture I get the tailpipe is black inside, and I
get black stains with this moisture on the driveway. And
this is concern about the dirt hunt on the garage floor.
I checked the checked the oil level to see maybe
I got a head gasket or I checked the I

(39:48):
checked the oil, and I checked the anny freeze, the
anti freezer right up to par and the oil I
don't show those signs of coffee stain or being higher
than the dipstick level.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I mean you're gonna get
a little bit more moisture in the exhaust because of
the cold and because of the temperatures, and you know,
and it's cold outside and you've got the you know,
the engine is kind of hot. The black soot that
you're seeing is that's carbon. That's just you know, a
by product of the exhaust itself. Now, what I will

(40:21):
tell you is, yes, the GMC terrains uh, most vehicles
nowadays and TERRAINUS is a pretty big one.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
They will over time start using a little bit of oil.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Now when I say a little bit, I'm not talking
like you're having to add it or whatnot. But it
could be a byproduct of the vehicle using oil, and
that's why you're getting that that little bit of that
carbon or that that that that soot that build up. Now,
I don't it has nothing to do with well, you
may be seeing it because of the cold and the

(40:55):
moisture that's coming out of the exhaust.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
But you know, in the summer months, you don't see
it because.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's it's hot out right, But it's just that carbon
and it's the oil by it's the byproduct of the vehicle,
probably most likely using a little bit of oil and
again some carbon build up, and with the moisture in
the in the cold, you're you're gonna see it dripping
on the ground. I don't think there's you don't have

(41:21):
anything going on wrong with the vehicle. I would do
what you're continuing to do is make sure that you're
checking the oil.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But I don't think that there's any cause for alarm.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's very common and we see it quite a bit,
So I think you're perfectly fine. I don't think there's
anything to be concerned about.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
What can you get those stains off the garage floor with?
Do you have anything us in the garage that you
clean these things?

Speaker 5 (41:47):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I would try there's some there's a lot of products
out there, but I would just try a little bit
of down and uh, a little bit of don in
hot water, little scrub rush.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
One more quick questions, sir, I won't the dealer and
I had the anti freeze changed in October the dext school. Yeah,
I had it changed and he said I needed a
water pump back in October. Lokay, sir, sure the water
pump is not leaking. There's no noise Uh, on my
hate temperature age is normal.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, well, George, I gotta go. I'm up against the
clock here. But George, UH, if.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
You're not seeing anything, it's not using it, then I
wouldn't worry about it. I really wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
So, Robin, I apologized that I could not get to you.
Please call back next Saturday. I'll you call first, first thing.
I'll take care of your car question. So thank you
everybody having a great weekend. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. You're listening to
the Car Show on fifty five krc D talk station.

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