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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boh driving down there in the.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Volunteers.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I was.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Taking your car questions. The number to call five one
three seven three.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Forgot the number seven fifty five. So I got distracted.
I'm in here talking to Tony. I got distracted. He's
distracted me. So uh uh, So again I'm here, Dane Donovan,
taking all of your car questions. Again the number to
call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven fifty. I was It wasn't necessary

(00:52):
Tony that was distracting me. It was I was distracted
because of I was telling a story. And uh, I
sometimes can get a bit animated, and my frustrations can
inhibit my ability to.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Give out phone numbers. So but again I am here.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
I did remember to bring my headphones today, and in fact,
last week, as some of you were tuning in, I
was late, about fifteen minutes late. You'd think I'd have
it narrowed down by now, but I did not. But
I this morning woke up and I put my headphones
on my bag, so I had to bring up with me.
And in fact I was leaving in my middle son,

(01:29):
who's probably the most irresponsible child I have, says Dad,
don't forget your headphones.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
IM like, man, that's bad when you're and my damn.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
My producer texts me this morning as well, and I
mean my son, literally, my middle son will walk out
the door to go to school with no shoes on
and he says to me, Dad, don't forget your headphones.
And I'm like, man, I have hit rock bottom when
my twelve year olds tell me don't forget my headphones. So,

(02:00):
but I am here, and my opinion was on time,
but for other people it's late, but I was on
before that.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I had to be on.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
So I'm here all day, not all day for a
full hour taking your car questions. Again, the number call
five one, three, seven nine fifty five hundred. Again I
mentioned last week and I want to bring it up again. Uh,
Donovan's Auto entire Center was voted best in Cincinnati, best
of the city, and.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Really proud of that, really proud of.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Our customers that you know voted for us and we
couldn't do it without you, And I just wanted to
thank everybody for voting for us.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
And again we will continue to give you the.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Best service at Donovan's Auto entire Center, the best service
that you can possibly get so. Also, I want to
make a quick mention too. I we are hiring technicians.
So if there's a if anybody listening there is, you know,
looking for a technician position, please email me or give

(03:03):
me a call at my new location that's the Auto
Foreign location. Uh. If you just go to donovantire dot
com again, it's it's Donovan's Auto Foreign. And you know,
that's probably one of the biggest struggles in this line
of working. And really it's you know, it's across the
board everywhere, right, retail stores and mechanics and plumbers and

(03:25):
electricians and and it's it's probably the most difficult part
of what we do now. Mind you, Like when I
got into this, oops, when I got into this, you
could find a technician.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Pretty easily, right, But now with all the technology and the.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Equipment and all the training you need, and uh, you
know it really it's it's hard. So if there's anybody
out there that may be looking, or know if somebody
is looking, please send them my way.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I would greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
So again, taking your phone calls and I'm gonna call
five one, three, seven fifty five hundred.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Let's go to the phones. We have Eddie. Hey, Eddie,
Welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hey, good afternoon. Yeah. I spoke to you a couple
of weeks ago about my wife's twenty eighteen vavolt with
the Stott stop issue.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, and you told me to.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Give you a call back that maybe you did some research.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. You did the auxiliary
battery and the main battery.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
You did both batteries, correct?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Correct? And I just did a voltage check the constat
for two days, and the main battery had twelve point
five two volts, the auxiliary had twelve point ninety five volts,
and then when I started up, the main battery jumps
to fifteen point one seven volts in the auxiliary jumped

(04:48):
to fifteen point two two votes okay, while it was
running still having the issue.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I did do some research.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
I did do some looking and digging, and I I
did not find anything that was alarming or glaring or
anything that I could pinpoint put my finger on. I'm
wondering if at I think I'm sure you're trying to
avoid this. You haven't taken it anywhere?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Correct, No, I have not.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
My opinion and thought process.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I mean, like I said, I didn't see anything glaring,
nothing popped out in front of me. I'm wondering if
it's just a software glitch or a software update or issue.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
A lot of times.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
There might just be a software update to try to
get that to work. Have you tried. The other thing
that we can try to do is disconnect the main
battery and put both battery cable es, disconnecting them, holding
them together for about a minute. What this does is

(05:54):
it's kind of like a hard reset. Right, if your
cell phone's acting up, you turn it off, right if
you you know, if your computer's acting up, you turn
off to a restart. So by taking both battery cable
ends off on the main battery, holding them together, a
lot of times that will Basically it's a hard restart
for the car. You can try that. If the start

(06:14):
stop features still is not working, it's probably a software issue.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
That is only unfortunately, gonna have to go back to
the dealer.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Try it. Let me know.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Thank you and congratulations on your reward. O.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Well, thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Have a great week, me too, Take care, but bye,
I don't know I don't know what it is, but
I get a ton of collegs from Boston ton at
least one or two a week, and I've been to Boston.
Wants beautiful city to love it. Told my wife I
was gonna take her up there one time.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
One of these days.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
We're lucky if we can even go out to go
out to dinner. So we've got just sports on top
of sports on top of sports sorts. I'm leaving here
going to two more basketball games, and we actually are
going to try to do a movie tonight, but we'll
see how that works out. So all right again, I'm
taking your phone calls and number call five one three
seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number gain five

(07:12):
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Speaker 4 (07:50):
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Speaker 7 (07:51):
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Speaker 8 (07:56):
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Speaker 5 (08:07):
Taking your car questions. The number call five one three
seven fifty five hundred. That number again, five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred Again. Phone lines are wide open,
promised to get you in here. So, uh yeah, I
don't know if everybody's I don't know, getting ready for
the Super Bowl or what, but uh, everybody's got car problems.

(08:27):
So but uh, anyways, I wanted to talk about you
know Eddie who just called from Boston.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know he's got this the software issue.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
And more and more every day we see things like
this with these new cars and the software issues, and
it is challenging in our industry because for a shop
like us, we're on you know, we can't it's it
would it's so expensive to have everybody's software. Mercedes, you

(08:59):
gotta have different software, BMW, Jaguar, Land River, I mean,
they're all different softwares and it's really really difficult to
have all of them right. So you got to make
sure that you know, you're taking it to a reputable
shop and you know, making sure that they have the
equipment and the tools to do that. Now, there are

(09:20):
some times where we might not right and the best
thing to do is and is just say, hey, listen,
you know I don't have the software or I might
not have the proper tool to do this.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Mainly it's just software.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
I mean anything that pertains to you know, the breaks,
the tires of the engine and everything like that's fine.
But you know, we get a lot of phone calls
about people wanting us to you know, hey, do you
program keys? I need a new key and need a
new ignition key, and that is like that's like Fort Knox.
I mean really the dealerships have that that market cornered

(09:54):
pretty well. And I mean I remember Heck, when I
first started driving, you would have two that's the keys,
or two keys you have one for the ignition, one
for the door.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Now nowadays you don't even have to take your key
out of your pocket. And which my my wife never
ever loses her car keys anymore because she never takes.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Them out of her purse.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
So there's kind of there's a you know, there is
a a good feature, but it's it's it's funny. A
lot of people come in that are dropping their car
off and uh, they're wanting to Uh, I'm like, all right,
can I have your key? And they're like, oh yeah,
and they're just like just digging, digging through that purse
to try to find that key because they just don't

(10:36):
take it out. But uh, you know the software and
that's why sometimes you want to make sure that you're
taking it your your vehicle to you know, a reputable
shop that can uh do these updates. And like I said,
most vehicles, we can all your your hond As, your Toyotas,

(10:57):
your Fords, your GMS, we can do BMW. But you know,
sometimes the land Rover range Rover merceades, sometimes those they
they don't release that software and it's uh, you know,
it's hard to it's hard to do that, so you know,
you just want to make sure that you're getting it
to a to another great shop.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I keep the phone lines. They're lighting up, but
they come on and they pop off.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
So but anyways, then I'm gonna call it five one
three seven that number gain five one three seven nine
fifty five hundred. I wanted to, and I I know
that I harp on this all the time, and well.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Actually I think we've got.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, we've got all right, we've got John.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Hey, John, welcome to the car show. How cand of help?

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yes, I just wanted to. I called last week about
my Cobalt and you told me to get ac Delco
cam sensor.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, the sellinoids.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Yeah yep. And I replaced replaced the one and kept
kept one old old one and replace the one that's
harder to get to, which is in the back, and
uh clear to clear the codes and then started up
and no checking. The light came back. So that worked

(12:18):
really And ac Delcos yep, because I had you used
a different company that read codes for you, and you
bought it from there and they didn't work.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, well, well I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
So so you put the two ac Delco sensors in
it and light didn't come back on and it's.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Been good ever since.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Great.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Great, that's awesome. Thanks for the follow up. I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I know next time, if it's anything electronic wise, just.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Go to the dealer.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, it's you know, and I've said I've said it
a million times on the show, but look, if you're
doing the work yourself, just spend the extra money and
buy the factory part. I know it's more, but really,
when it comes to something like this, right, it was
able to fix your problem, right, A lot of people
will be racking their brains like, oh, maybe I need
a computer. Maybe it's the wiring. No, it was just

(13:11):
the aftermarket sensors just you know, weren't working, you know,
and I'm not you know, we put aftermarket parts on cars.
It's it's but it depends on what you're doing, right,
If you want to put after market brakes or an
alternator starter, I'm okay with that, right, But when you
get into the electronics of the vehicle, especially timing parts,

(13:31):
you really want to stick to the original. You know,
the OEM manufacturer just because they're really really finicky and
you got to put the factory part in otherwise, you know,
so well, good, I'm glad you called.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'm I appreciate the follow up.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
And yeah, electrical parts, especially when it comes to timing
stuff or or also mass airflow sensors.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
That is the biggest racket out there.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Uh, mass mass airflow sensor will fail all the time,
and oxygen sensors, and people put aftermarket ones in and
then they have the same code and they're like, well,
that obviously wasn't the problem and just the aftermarket ones
just aren't good quality.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
So yeah, yeah, and one thing that made me do
is go ahead and give me a code reader for myself,
and that and that and maybe and I bought one
that you can actually do live data with it too,
so that, yeah, I figure that that'll be more of
a beneficial and I can do it myself or having

(14:32):
someone else will read it.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, absolutely, and then and then you can see too,
you know, if you've got a misfire or whatnot.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I will read active missfires.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Do you know.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I believe that it will okay because a lot of yeah,
you get it.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
You can actually you can actually record it too.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Okay, oh wow, okay, man, they're getting they're getting sophisticated nowadays.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, that was with you know, VIA one thousand. I
think it was that I got.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, I mean when you when you can get one
that can record live data, that's really helpful because a
lot of times if you've got a vehicle that's you know,
V six or V eight and it's missfiring, right, and
sometimes these cars will just flag a PO three hundred,
which is a random cylinder misfire, and you're like, well,
which one's missfiring.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
It's not flagging that particular cylinder.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
So if you can watch the live the live stream
and watch the DADA and you and you can watch
which cylinder is misfiring or how many times it's misfired,
allows you to pinpoint exactly which cylinder is your problem.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
So you're not having to.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Do you know, a major major tune up, you know,
replacing all the spark plugs and all the coils, which
can cost a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
So yeah, yeah, I think it'd be worth the investment.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Yeah, I do appreciate your hey i'm.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Jomping, you know, Hey, I appreciate the follow up, and
uh yeah, so well, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Good luck to you. If you need anything else, you
give me a call.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Okay, thank you, take care.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Uh that's always good news to hear.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Sometimes I sometimes I guess right now, that's the thing
we've talked. I've talked about this on the show.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Look, if you're doing the work yourself, and I'm never
will I ever talk anybody out of doing the work themselves,
you're saving yourself a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
That's and that's what the show's about.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Is I'm here to help you out in any way,
shape or form that I can. And the gentleman called
last week said, hey, I've got these codes.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I put in the sensors and I still have the
same codes.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
And I told John, I said, look, put in an
AC Delco sensor. Put in the factory part. Are they
more sure? But in this case you never, especially with
timing parts, you really don't want to do aftermarket.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
You want to just do factory. And the sensors aren't much.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
The sensors, I think they're around like seventy six bucks
a pieces, two of them. There's an intake and exhaust.
There's seventy six bucks. Can you buy some on eBay
for I'm sorry Amazon.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
For twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, but you know this gentleman had to do the
job twice because he bought a cheaper part. So you
want to be careful, especially in aftermarket. And again we
use aftermarket parts. I'm not knocking them, but you need
to be You need to make sure that you do
your homework, and especially if you're doing it yourself, spend
the money on the on the good part. If you're

(17:20):
doing after if you're again, if you're doing a starter, alternator, breaks,
wiper blades.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
You know, something like that you can do after market.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
That'd be fine, you know, but when you get into
the electronics modules and sensors, mass airflow sensor, oxygen sensor,
you know, what's the what John was talking about, VVT, sylenoids,
things like that, you really want to stick the original
equipment manufacturer. Okay, And you know, if it's it's I,

(17:48):
it's If it's a GM product, it's a c Delco,
it's a Ford product, it's Motorcraft. If it's a Honda,
it's it's Denzo. And uh, if it's Toyota, it's Denzo.
So so you know, you want to make sure that
you know, use a good quality part and save yourself
from having to do the job twice. So all right,

(18:08):
again the number call five one three seven four nine
fifty five hundred. That number again, five one three seven
four nine fifty five hundred.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I wanted to.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I had a gentleman. I wanted to bring this up.
And I didn't argue with him, but I tried to
steer him.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
In the right direction.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
The gentleman brought his vehicle in for a ninety five
thousand mile service, which really isn't much. It was just
an oil change and kind of check the car over,
look the car over and he goes, hey, when did
I have my oil change last? And I said, what
you Look, I go back in his history and this
oil was changed at ninety thousand, and he's ninety five,
so he's due. And he goes, I want to bring

(18:48):
it in for a ninety five thousand miles service, but
I don't want to change the oil.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
And I said, is there any particular reason why.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
He goes, well, I've been my car says to change
it every ten thousand, and I said, well, that's I mean,
that's what they that's what the dealer record, that's what
the vehicle recommends. But really you should be changing every
five thousand, and he goes, you know, so we kind
of went round around as to why he wanted it
done in ten and you know, all, if that's what

(19:16):
he wants, that's that's perfectly fine. But I tried a
little bit kind of course him into like, you really
should be changing every five thousand miles, especially if I
mean he's bringing it in every five thousand miles.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean he was on top of his maintenance. I
checked his maintenance schedule.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I mean, everything he was doing was was right on
time for maintenance. But he only changes oil every ten
thousand miles. And I tried to. I tried, like heck
to try to get him to get his oil changed,
but he didn't want to do it. So but again,
we want to focus on the sticker that's in your window.

(19:51):
It's every five thousand miles. The oil should be changed
every day. I have a car in my shop that
it's in there because it has an oil problem either
timing chain issues. John just called about that very live
timing celenoids those go bad because of lack of oil
pressure and time and time. Again, it's a conversation that

(20:13):
we need to have and I know I talk about
it a lot, but it's it's just it's just something that.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
We we need to I need to.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I just feel like I need to pound it in
everybody's head that it's five thousand miles that we need
to be changing this oil.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Okay. I recently again.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself, and
guess what the truck tells me. I need to change
oil every seventy five hundred and ten thousand miles. You
know what I did at five thousand miles. I changed
oil that on that vehicle. Okay, and can the vehicles?
And I watched a great, great there's a there's a
gentleman that I follow on Instagram and uh and I

(20:51):
was watching it before I came before I came to
the studio, and he was talking about, you know, he
had a Nissan sixty thousand miles, had one oil change
in sixty thousand miles. They pulled the valve covers off
of the thing. And there's just mud, It's just tar,
it's just mud. And uh man, it's the simplest and
best thing that you can do for your vehicle.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And yet I do believe.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
That there's a lot of misleading, and I think confusion, right,
And so when there's confusion, everybody says, well, I'll just
I don't know, I'll just do every ten thousand, or
I'll just do with the No. I'm telling you, five
thousand miles is when you spake you want. These cars
aren't getting any cheaper. These things are, you know, fifty
sixty seventy. I mean, it's one hundred thousand dollars for
a vehicle. And the single best thing and cheapest thing

(21:36):
that you can do to keep it on the road
is to change your oil. And I just want everybody
to know that I'm telling you every five thousand miles
is when it needs to be done. I mean, my
father in law was talking to him last week when
I left the show.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
He had another basketball game and.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
He goes, hey, we were listening to your show, and
he goes, my mother in law was actually saying, hey, listen,
we just bought a new car and we're at like
twenty five hundred miles. Should we change it now? And
I said, no, change it at five thousand. Just stick
to five and you'll be fine. But far too often,
you know, he actually bought a Toyota and when he
took it in there, they gave him free oil change,
like three free oil changes. He took it in there

(22:15):
at five thousand miles, and they're like, oh no, no, you
don't need an old change yet, So they wouldn't honor
the free oil change at five thousand, Like, no, you
need to bring it back in ten thousand, which in
my opinion is wrong. If the customer, if you give
him three free oil changes and he wants to change
at five thousand, I believe that you should do it
at five thousand. So make sure, please, you know, I

(22:38):
just can't harp it enough. Please every ten thousand, every
five thousand miles, it needs to be changed.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I don't care what the book says.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I don't care what the car salesman that sold you
the vehicle sed.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Look at that little sticker in your window.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Every five thousand miles and you will get I guarantee
you two hundred thousand miles out of your vehicle. And
so often that's not what we're seeing. I mean, I've
got a vehicle. I have a Mini Cooper at my
shop right now, eighty six thousand miles on. It won't
run needs chains because there was no oil in it,
and it stressed the chain to jump time, and so
the gentleman's like, you know what, I'm not going to

(23:13):
fix it. I mean, eighty six thousand miles. We shouldn't
be junking our cars at eighty six thousand miles. And
it all led to the fact that he wasn't changing
the oil or it was ran low on oil multiple times,
which led to the demise of the chain and him
not fixing the car. So now he's got to go
out and buy another, you know, fifty sixty thousand dollars vehicle.
So it's it's important and I can't stress it enough.

(23:34):
So all right again, I'm taking your phone calls an
order to call five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. That number again, five one three seven four
nine fifty five hundred phone lines right up and love
to hear from you guys. Please give me a call.
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(23:55):
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Let's go back to the phones. We've got Dan Hey Dan,
Welcome to the car show.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
How can I help?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Hi?

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Dan, hey Man. I have a twenty fifteen for its fusion,
the highbrid. It's got a two point zero in it,
and I changed thermostat on it a couple of months ago,
and I think I got air in there.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Don't know how to get it out.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Great question. Have you is a vehicle overheating or anything?

Speaker 9 (24:56):
No, but it doesn't heat up. It's doing the exact
same thing before I put the new thermostat in it.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
These hybrids don't like cold, so it takes it.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Forever to warm up. I mean it'll start blowing out
heat pretty much right away.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
But the.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
Digital gauge will take forever to show it even move
it when it's really cool, especially.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Okay, and then so it was doing that before and
that's why you put the thermostat in it. But it's
still is the gauge, I mean, is the gauge in
the middle. And still you don't you have a you
don't have great heat.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Uh no, I have great heat.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
But the gauge will drop down on very cold days.
When I have the blower on high, it'll just you
can see the thermostite drop and drop and drop and drop.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
And then we'll go all the way down to cold.

Speaker 9 (25:49):
And then after I drive it with the engine on,
you can see it raising back up a little bit.
But when it's like this temperature, it'll stay right in the.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Middle where it's supposed to. And it's always done that.
It's about us in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh, it's always done that.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, huh. But I don't know.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
Is there there's a device you have to put on
the filler cap of the reservoir and blows the air across
it and sucks out the air.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
So, I mean typically a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Some cars, yes, you can get air trapped in the
event in the heater.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Core and cause you know, low heat or whatnot.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
What we do, Yeah, there is a device you can
you can you need like it's mostly on like European vehicles.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
It wouldn't be on a ford.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
But typically what you want to do if you want
to try to get air out of it is have
it run, and you want the radiator higher than the
heater core, right, so either park it or on a
really steep hill. What we do is like we'll just
jack up the front end, We'll put on a lift,
We'll just jack up the front end, right, and so
that the radiator is the highest part.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
So what do you want to do?

Speaker 5 (27:02):
And then when it's warmed up, you know, you know
with the wheels, the radiator again, you want the the
heater core is going to be right behind the glove box, right,
so you want that radiator higher than that.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
So it doesn't have to be ridiculously high.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
But you know, on a nice steep hill or if
you have access to like some you know, some drive
on ramps, if you're gonna like.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Change your own oil, yeah, get get them on there.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
And then what you're gonna do is just you're gonna
kind of maybe get it at like two three thousand
RPMs and you want that get it up to normal
operating temperature. You want those fans to kick on, and
you want it while those fans are on, You're you're
you're giving it gas, right, You're trying to force that
air out of the the heater core, and hopefully you
want the radiator cap off as well. You want the

(27:47):
rate so some coolant might spill out or whatnot.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
So uh, you know, make sure.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
You know you're not making a mess in your driveway,
but you want the radiator cap off. You want the
front wheels, the radiator higher than the heater core, and
then get it up the operating temperature and you're gonna
give it some gas two three thousand RPMs and you
want you want that cool cycling through that and try
to get that air bubble, that air pocket out of
that heater core.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, so this car doesn't have a radiator cap. It's
got just a reservoir and it's.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Got at keep the reservoir cap off.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, oh gotcha.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
All right, thank you for that, and just have it
higher than the heater core and eventually after it boils
itself out it should you cannot accelerate. You cannot accelerate
rate these cars when they're Yeah, but I did let
it run, and it did bubble out, and and I
believe it may.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Have come out all the way.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (28:41):
It's very interesting. So what I'll do is I'll put
it on the ramps and get the front end of
it raised up and just put it new. So the
trick on these cards is to get them to run.
It's to turn the key on actually thinking that it's
going to start when it doesn't because it's a hybrid,
right then principle, But halfway down on the accelerator and
the engine will start up. And then once it does that,
I think, put your foot on the brake and put

(29:02):
it in neutral and it'll continue to run until you
put it in park. This is the trick to gas
hybrids to run when they're when because they don't want
to run their right their goal is not to run
at all.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, so yeah, I know.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
And they don't have a serface team belt either, So
I'm in there trying to change the service team belt.
There's there's there isn't.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Money, so yeah, well yeah, yeah, I know. I'm not
a fan of them, but some I mean there's I
tell you what, though, there's a lot of people out
there driving hybrids.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I'm just done.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
I'll never do it again. I'll never buy another hybrid.
I'll tell you right now, not in the Midwest.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
I'm glad to well, I'm glad to hear it. I
just I've I don't know, I mean, you see for me,
it's just like I see it all the time. Like
everybody's like, great, yes, you save a lot of money
on gas.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Right or yeah, fifty miles a gallon.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Yeah, but at about one hundred thousand miles or a
little bit less or a little bit more, the hybrid
battery on the vehicle goes bad. And on a Prius
it's over five thousand dollars, right, So so my thought
and theory is like, well, the amount of money you
saved on that gas you're going it goes right to

(30:17):
replacing a hybrid battery, so.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
Yeah, which which leaves the larger footprint than any.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Kind of like drilling whatever.

Speaker 9 (30:25):
Absolutely, they make these these batteries take up so much
of the environment.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, I know, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, and then I talked about that.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I think it was last week about you know, the
electric cars and the Teslas and whatnot, and all these
electric cars that are out here and all the batter
all the mining you have to do to get this
the you know, these batteries manufactured. And then guess what,
We're gonna have a major problem because nobody is really
having the conversation. How are we gonna get rid of
these batteries? What are we gonna do? You know, We're

(30:54):
gonna you know, so it's gonna be a big problem.
I mean, all these Teslas are going to We're gonna
get to a point where there's thirty forty fifty thousand
Tesla batteries sitting in some you know yard or something,
and that that thing catches on fire and we'll have
ourselves in a massive So.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm just no way to recycle them.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, no, So I'm not a big well not a
big fan.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'll never do it again, Oh my gosh. Never.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
I'm so thankful for your service. Hey, I've got an
offer here to fifty five krcy tell you. And there
are decades of people that listen and used to listen
to the other team, and we're thankful for you.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We just wanted to know that.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I appreciate that, man, I really do so, Dan, you
guys are awesome. Thanks Dan, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
You know that makes me, you know, it makes me
feel good.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
You know That's I come in here every Saturday, you know,
from one to two to come here and answer and
help you, uh and guide you through you're you know,
through your car problems.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Right maybe it's it might.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Be purchasing a vehicle, or buying a newsed vehicle, or
fixing the one that you have.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You know, I a lot of saturdays.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
I miss, you know, my kids baseball games or basketball
games or football games because I'm.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Here, uh for two reasons.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
One to help you fix your car and guide you
and give you the best advice that I possibly can.
And and second of all, I love what I do.
I've you know, as long as I can remember. You know,
I come from a third generation family of owners and
Donovan tire. My grandfather started it, my uncle and my

(32:38):
dad took it over my cousin and I took it
from them, and I since I was as long as
I can remember, this is what.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I wanted to do. And uh, I enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I love it is every day perfect and and Uh,
we're you know, it's Mayberry. No, but I can't imagine
myself doing anything else, and I want to pass on
my knowledge and help people out and get their cars
fixed as best as I can so they can get
onto another task, right something you know that is, you know,

(33:13):
a family issue or getting to work or being able
to see their kids play at the game or whatnot.
So that's why I'm here, This is why I do it.
I love what I do, and I want to help you.
I want to help you guys out. So all right again,
I'm taking your phone calls. I'm gonna call five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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Speaker 4 (34:15):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five KRC.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
I'm Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center and here
every Saturday to take your car question. So we're going
to run out of time, so we've got two calls here.
I want to get to the phones. Let's go to Donnie. Hey, Donnie,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
How can I help?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hi, Sir?

Speaker 10 (34:34):
I have an seven Honda Odyssey approaching two hundred and
sixty nine thousand miles.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Wow, good for you?

Speaker 10 (34:40):
When well, she's a wonderful car man. She's been strong.
When it starts cold, I get a groaning noise out
of the engine bay that buries as I've turned the
turn bay steering wheel. Yes, I'm in my seventies on
fixed income, and I don't want to just throw parts
at it. So I wanted to if you could help

(35:00):
me diagnose definitively that the power steering pump.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
No.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
So here's here's what I want you to do. I
don't want you to replace the pump yet. There's an
inlet and an outlet O ring. Okay, so you've got
you replaced them both.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
And a power steering hose already.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
So you did the pressure hose and you did both
O rings and it's still grown in. Yes, Okay, is
it bubbling like when you started up if you take
the cap off the reservoir? Is is the the power
steering Is the fluid bubbling.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Up at all?

Speaker 6 (35:35):
You know?

Speaker 10 (35:35):
I haven't noticed that, so okay, I know the fluid level,
it's fine, Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Fluid levels fine.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
And so typically when those O rings go bad, the
fluid itself will bubble up. But if you've replaced them
and the fluid itself is not bubbling up, and you've
replaced the pressure line in both O.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Rings, then uh, the only thing left is the pump.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I've never seen a rack calls a whining noise.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I've seen a power steering rack, opinion cause a stiffness
in turning the wheel. But you're not experiencing that, correct,
You're just getting a grown When the car is warmed up,
does that groan come down a little bit or does
it stay the.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Same it goes away?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Okay, yeah, so and here.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
And so the pump's just probably so the you know,
when that fluid is cold, the viscosity, the thickness of
it is, it's a lot thicker, right, and then once
the car warms up it's nice and hot, that fluid
gets thinner, so it's less for the pump to have
to pump that fluid. So it sounds like you've covered
all your bases. The only thing is it's gonna need
a pump.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Was one green. Uh friend of mine told me that
there's a filter at the bottom of the reservoir and
I was winning with the second viscosity. If that could
hinder the flow of the fluid when it's cold.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Um, you know, I'm sure has a screen in it,
but I've never seen one, cause a parasteerings.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I've never seen one.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Never.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I've never replaced the reservoir on a Honda ever. Now,
just because I haven't seen it or I've never done it,
doesn't mean it can't happen. I mean you could probably
take there if you wanted to. You can probably take
the reservoir out and clean that screen. You could try
that before you replace the pump. I mean, has the
pump ever been replaced?

Speaker 9 (37:27):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (37:28):
Well, not since I've owned it. I'm the second owner.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Okay, all right, I mean it's worth the shot.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I mean, if you take to take the reservoir off,
is gonna take you know, fifteen to twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
You know, it's gonna make a mask. But you know,
take the reservoir.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
You know, if you could try to suck out as
much of that fluid as you could, take that reservoir
out and try to clean that screen at the bottom.
You could try that. It's worth a shot. And if
it's if it doesn't change, it's it's got to be
the pump. Okay, sir, A right, take care bye bye.
All right, let's go back to the phones. We've got Wayne. Hey, Wayne,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
How can I help?

Speaker 11 (38:02):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Thank you, Dane.

Speaker 11 (38:05):
I got a twenty eighteen Optimus and every fill up
I have to put uh not a half accord in,
but a quarter of a court of oil.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I didn't know if they had a recall on oil consumption.
If you got fifty thousand miles, all that was one
hundred thousand wards.

Speaker 11 (38:23):
Yes, so I understand you got to throw a rod
or a main barry before they'll replace that boat.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, so here's what I
want you to do.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
I want you to schedule it with your local Kia dealer.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
And what I want you to do.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
When you schedule it, you say, hey, listen, I would
like to I'd like to schedule appointment for an oil
consumption test. Right, So what the what they'll do is
they'll go in, they'll change the oil, they cap off
the dipstick in the you know, the oil cap itself,
and they'll do an oil consumption test, will tell you
to bring it back in one thousand miles, they'll reassess
it and whatnot. But it is I have been led

(39:03):
to believe that basically Hyundai and Kia which pretty much
the same man in fact, there's same Basically they're not
doing anything until the thing locks up.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
And over the summer I had one.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
I had a customer that had one locked up, and
he was number ninety eight in line to get an
engine replaced.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Number ninety eight.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
I mean, it's taken months and months to put an
engine in that car. I mean, but they're they're honoring it,
they're replacing them. But what I would say is get
it on the books, go to the dealer. Get that
way it's in your history that yes, you know you
have an oil consumption issue. Get it on the books
that yes, you brought it into the dealer. And basically

(39:45):
it gives you a little bit more leverage. So if
you're you know, I would I would, you know, I
would do it several times, you know, over a course
of a year or two.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, I have them tested at each time, or change
your work.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yes, I need an oil consumption test done, and that
way it's on there. So if you ever do get
out of warranty and it locks up and they're like, hey,
you're out a warranty, Sorry, I can't do anything for you,
and say, hey, listen, I was here multiple times.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, telling you, showing you that this thing is burning oil.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
But I think I think it's I think it's up
to one hundred and fifty thousand miles that they're covering.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
These engines, So oh really, I'm.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Almost certain it's one hundred and fifty thousand miles.

Speaker 11 (40:30):
I love the car, I mean I love it. Yeah,
good on gas, I mean it handles graded.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah, that's a huge problem.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Actually I got two of them.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I got a two thousand and four.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, I mean, oil consumption is a huge problem. That
kind of goes back to what I was talking about
getting the oil change regularly, because he's you know, if
you if your car, if your car is burning a
quart of oil every three thousand miles and you go
ten and these cars are only holding four courts by
the time you get in for an oil change. If
you even bring it in at ten and that twelve
or fifteen thousand miles, the cars won't have any oil
on them in a chain stretch, and it causes massive

(41:05):
It's a huge domino effect.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
So you know, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not paid
by any oil companies. I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
You know, I'm just telling you every single car that comes,
just about every single car's got an oil problem. It's
because he sings to burn and oil. So yeah, get it,
get it to the dealer and do an oil consumption test.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Okay, great, great, I appreciate it, all right.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
He man have a great weekend. Appreciate the phone call.
The moral of the story.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I'm gonna talk about it next Saturday and the following
Saturday and the following Saturday.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Please, if you're out there, you're listening to me.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
If you're driving a vehicle five thousand miles on an
oil change, that's it period.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
If anybody would love to call me and and prove
me wrong, please feel free. You can't do it today,
call me next Saturday.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
But I'm telling you it's it's a huge problem, and
I want you to be aware that is important and
imperative that the oil gets changed every five thousand miles.
Do that your car will last you three hundred thousand miles.
So also again, if you know I am, we are
hiring technicians. If you know anybody, please send them my way.

(42:15):
You can go to Dane at Donovantire dot com or
call me at Donovan.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
You go Donavtire dot com. I'm at Donovan's Auto fourn
Give me a call.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
And love to hear from anybody that's looking for a
technical or technician looking for a job.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
So I really do appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
So I will be back next Saturday to answer all
of your questions. And everybody tomorrow enjoy the Super Bowl.
We already know who's gonna win. But anyways, I'm not
even gonna get on that topic. But hey, everybody, have
a great and safe weekend. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. I'm Dane Donovan
from Donovan's Auto entire Center. You're listening to the Car

(42:52):
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