Gavin 'Gov. Satan' Newsom Belongs Anywhere but the White House

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's gotta be stopped. Let let me remind you here,
and this is justifiable anger that you had. This man
cannot become president of the United States. You heard all
the money he's given away, Right, let's spend this whill boy,
we're flushing money. Remember him bragging about how we got
all this money? Now, well where did that go? Gavin?

(00:20):
Twenty billion dollars was lent to California during COVID for
unemployment not being paid back to the federal government. That
payroll tax now is going to rise every year in
the state by zero point three until the federal loan
is settled. Yeah, all that free money Gavin was given away. Yeah, yeah,
we're going to pay for it. We're picking up the

(00:41):
tab for twenty billion. Newsom never mentions any of this. No,
he'll go after a lawn musk and Trump and JD.
Vance never talking about the Well, of course he's not
going to talk about the mismanagement of what he actually
was involved with. But I will, and I think we
need to be reminded of what he put us through

(01:01):
out here. This man should be nowhere near the White House,
no near the Oval Office with what he is up to.
Let's go. Remember, come on, man, let's do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
These are unique Numerica.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Identifiers that connect to a name, so they're real winners.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Here, fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Fifty thousand dollars. Then we'll all pay it back with
taxes to the two to twenty billion dollars. If one
of these.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Balls represents fifty thousand dollars, check that individual receive when
they get their second shot. There's always stipulation with a
why people follow through, and so with that, we will
start with.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Number eight teen eighteen. Here you are, we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
We'll have number.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Eighteen and eighteen casinosino.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
How what you are to find Menacino County.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Look at that?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
When some people didn't live through that, and when they
didn't lift through it, their loved ones couldn't even be
in there during their last moments. We couldn't even have
Thanksgiving without being told by the state that it has
to be outside and you don't want people coming in
your house. So if you're gonna have ten or more,
you need to have a porta potty installed. I mean,
the rulings were remember the restaurants or poor restaurant owners?

(02:20):
All right, No, we can do indoor dining, all right. Now, No,
we're not at the levels we are. You need to
move it outside again. All right, I'm a restaurant owner.
Let me drive down to over the thousand Oaks over there.
I know a guy that has outdoor heaters. Let me. Okay,
I got ten of them. I got a truck. I'm
hauling them back. I've rented them for a month. I

(02:40):
hope I don't need them for that long. Oh. I
get back and oh, we have a difference. Now we're
not peeking in a week or two where we are
what color? Oh they changed the color code. Now nobody
can come in. I have to completely shut down.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I want to remind everybody, Oh dude, that this state
continues to take advantage of every person, every day, every
moment to make sure we're prepared for any surge and
prepared for the long haul. And I talked about the
curve bending but also stretching. And that's why I just

(03:12):
want to impress upon people are modeling shows that we're
not at peak in a week or two.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
He had no modeling, he had no numbers. They made
it all up.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That we are seeing a slow and steady increase. But
it's moderate, and it's moderate again because of the actions
all of you have taken in terms of the physical distancing.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
That was made up. Again remembers they made that six
feet up way to go, guys, way to distance, a
number that we made up. I saw a guy online
talking about a T shirt that he saw. He said,
the T shirt said, I don't judge mask wearers. I
was going along with a plan to destroy the economy
of millions of lives. I'd hide my face too, Guys.

(03:59):
The mask, the mandates, the color coded charts were never, ever,
never about health. It was about shaming people. You still
see the mask, don't you. And where I used to
kind of feel angry at individuals, I feel sadness now
when I look at them. I mean, I go, do

(04:20):
you not look around? Nobody's dying, nobody's cough in the
world didn't end. I mean, we were called deplorables. We
wouldn't we would and kneel down. We wouldn't kneel down
to the science that change every what every thirty minutes
or thirty days. No, No, you're you're First of all,

(04:40):
you're selfish, you're going to kill grandma. Secondly, you're stupid,
and I'm sure that means you're uneducated and you mix
all that in together and you're just a conspiracy theorist.
All right, Oh yeah, they would argue with you, demean you.
We're the educated glass, we're the rule, we're the rule makers. Remember,
you're the rule followers. So what did what did politicians

(05:02):
in this state do? Democrat and Republican shep for Gary
Rudefeld and Tomaclintock. They rolled up their sleeves. They did
these and they shut down their their neighbors businesses. Oh
I remember one that still I guess it's still kind
of He's a Tennessee word sticks to my crawl a
little bit here. Uh That's why I'm glad we have

(05:22):
assemble in David Tongapa. We had assembly Member Andreas Borges,
a Republican, back on the show. Oh okay, and then
suddenly it led to it's great to be back on
the show.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Your man. You're manufacturing controversy and it doesn't exist. So
I'm not going to play this game.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
The game. It wasn't a game. I was right and
you were wrong. There's the there's the final score of
the game. I don't know if Borde just still lives
around here. But uh, he was one of those on
the Republican side that did not take a stand. Yeah,
we had a normal Germans became Nazis. Right, they did
unspeakable things because they they were obedient. Obedient. Oh I

(06:04):
remember we were censored. People even got fired, even got fired,
but it wasn't because they were wrong. And again every
time I think of this, I want to think the
company that I work for, iHeartMedia. They never came in
and said you can't say this or you must say that. Well,
there were many other broadcast organizations, many in this city

(06:25):
right here, that were told no, you can't go down
that route, you can't say this, and so many went along.
Former State assemblyment andreas borgis what should we do? Man?
Answer with fact in science, why I need to take
the vaccine?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, I'm not saying that you actually need to.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
You said that's how we get back to normal. I
think we can get back to normal another way. You
did say I should hold on.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I would absolutely encourage folks that if they want to
interact in society, if they want to travel abroad, if
they want to establish that baseline that we've been working
toward as a community that otherwise I think you should
take the vaccine.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, well, history's not going to be kind to those
that inflicted this, this lockdown. And it wasn't just Newsome
because if we had elected officials across this state, local county,
state officials that would have stood up to the to
the lockdown. Lucifer, Yeah, he wouldn't have gotten away with
what he got away with. But no, we had politicians

(07:30):
just like Andreas boards is here. No, it's the way
to normal. Here, I take the vaccine so things can
be normal. Well guess what. It didn't turn out to normal,
did it. We now have defibrillators at high school sporting events,
We now have myocarditis. Yeah. It wasn't the way to normal,
absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
But from my standpoint, I think this is absolutely the
right thing to do to get our economy back on track,
to allow us a degree of normalcy. So I'm absolutely
going to stand by that, and I will add for
other folks that you know, if you're eligible to get
the vaccine, I believe you should do so because this

(08:09):
is the way that we establish that degree of normalcy.
And I believe that based on the science and data
that I have been exposed to at the state.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Level, which was hogwatch, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
And I believe that based on the science in data
that I have been exposed to at the state level,
that it is it is reasonable as a course of action.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, Well, there's a new documentary out called an Inconvenient Study.
It's from the same guy that did that documentary called
Vaxx in twenty fifteen before COVID was even on the scene.
He's an Emmy Award winning producer. He'd been a medical
journalist for two decades. He worked for CBS as a
medical journalist. This guy had a good resume here and

(08:53):
this new documentary Inconvenient Study, and it really goes back
and it really does show that, you know, RKA Junior
has been correct, so many have been correct. Fifty four
percent of American kids now have a chronic disease. In
the nineteen eighties that was twelve point eight percent, twelve
percent to fifty four percent. And you don't want to
go maybe something's going on with vaccines that are going

(09:15):
to kids from burr to age eighteen. It was around
twenty vaccines in the nineteen eighties. What do you think
it is today? And if you haven't heard this number
you're going to be you'll be shocked at this. How
many seventy two or more seventy two from twenty to
seventy two? All right? Is there some link between this

(09:35):
and the rise in chronic disease, especially autism? Well, guess what.
There's been a study by the Henry Ford Health System
directed by Ford's head of infectious diseases, doctor Marcus Zervos.
It was they compelled health outcomes vaccinated with unvaccinated patients
and in Ford's system that they had and they went

(09:58):
over this and let me just tell you this doctor.
They chose doctor Marcus Zervos because he was a pro vaccine.
He totally believed that kids said yeah, get those seventy
two or more vaccines. They did this study, the results
came out. Guess what, this doctor wouldn't put him out.
You know why he said he wouldn't put him out
because he was afraid that he was going to be fired.

(10:21):
We now work where a pro vaccine doctor got the
results of his study and he's scared to tell the truth.
Way to go, Liberal and Democrat voters. Your votes elected
the individuals who have now created this environment where doctors
are scared of the truth. And you know who the
number one ring leader of that, the guy that wants
to be president, our governor. You know what, let me

(10:45):
go Jack here, let me go Nico. You can't hand
all the truth.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Insisted Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And it's all about the kids, right, Nancy Pelosi's are
talking about it's for the children. So this doctor, he
agreed to oversee the project. He said he's going to
publish it, no matter the results. And this doctor was
a pro vaccine doctor. So two years later, twenty twenty three,
the analysis was completed, the Ford Health Group would not

(11:14):
publish it. Mister Bigtree, the director of this new doctormentary
that's out actually at the very end of it, this
is the part that I saw little teaser online, but
he had a hidden camera discussion with the doctor, and
this producer made a final plea. He goes, please make

(11:36):
good on your pledge that you would publish this no
matter the results that came out. And the doctor knowledge
that the study did have negative fightings for the vaccines,
in his opinion, a good study that should be published,
but he said that in the current political and media environment,
it would result in his firing and a trashing of
the studies quality. So he said, in his own word words,

(12:00):
you published something like that, I might as well retire,
he said, I'd be finished. Isn't in that a scary
situation that was created in the last few years. It
used to be where you know, we would think the
doctor wasn't political. Science was not political. The Ford study
was based on a population of eighteen thousand, four hundred

(12:22):
and sixty eight subjects. Nine hundred and fifty seven were
fully unvaccinated. Now the director said, this is a bombshell.
They said the vaccinator group had six times higher risk
for autoimmune disease, four times hire for asthma, five point
six times higher for neurodevelopmental disorders, four times higher risks

(12:43):
for speech disorders, and they said no cases of the
disorder were found among the unvaccinated. Can you imagine putting
that out what that would do to the pharmaceutical industry
out there, what that would do to advertising in media
out there? Autism the single case, one case among the unvaccinated,
twenty three amongst the vaccinated. They found that after ten

(13:05):
years there was an eighty three percent likelihood that the
unvaccinated would avoid any chronic disease, whereas in the vaccinated
group there was a forty three percent chance of being
free of a chronic disease. So over half American kids
now suffer from some chronic disease. Do you hear that
a world class doctor pro vaccine scared to tell the truth.

(13:30):
Why would we as a society not want to know
more about this? Please tell more? Oh, you did a
study of eighteen thousand Yes, what are the results? This
doctor said, and again on hidden camera at the end
of the documentary he talks about it. Well, it would
run his entire career. I guess some of the search

(13:51):
engines now know what I'm interested in, right, hadn't they
been doing that now for a few decades. I get
these articles that pop up now about and all that,
because I guess for all those years they saw me,
you know, looking into COVID and all that. The archives
of clinical and biomedical research, they had health data from
Sweden and Norway, and I found this interesting. They found

(14:13):
the number of medical consentations for memory problems has increased. Now,
are you go? Okay? You think normally older folks with
memory issues In Norway, they said those between the age
of five and nineteen increased eight point five fold. In
Sweden five to nineteen years old, increase sixty times sixty

(14:36):
from twenty ten to twenty twenty four. Again in Sweden
aged five to nineteen diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment, including
memory loss, increased sixty not six sixty times. Well, why
is that happening? They said. These researchers did exposure to

(14:57):
wireless radiation. They discovered or a negative link between low
levels of wireless radiation and brain function. The FCC has
not updated They're Wireless Radiation Exposure Guide since nineteen ninety six,
and the FCC failed to comply with the court order
mandating to explain how it determined current guidelines. The five

(15:19):
g if we could see everything that is around us
all the time, we would be like ah, wrapping ourselves
in a luminum foil here, especially like I think here
in this radio station, with all the waves and everything
going on, we have no idea. But anyhow, that's interesting
as well. So there's science and their studies out there.
But you know, we live in the kind of climate
where they're probably not going to go along with that,

(15:41):
because I guess when you assume maybe they don't care
that they have some other agenda, right because I mean,
if you saw somebody that was heard or needed help,
the normal human reaction is, let's go, let's help right
in that the doctor's creed or whatever you know, do
no harm. Wow, man, they got a long way away

(16:02):
from that. We need to help kids, I mean giving
them seventy two injections. This couple helped some kids out there.
This is why the only time I've ever gotten on
a roller coaster was in eighth grade at nots Berry
Farm because Robin Hufford. I can't remember what I had
for dinner last night, but I remember her name. She
a blonde, kind of looked like, you know, a fourteen
year old Stevie Nicks in my eyes. She came up,

(16:24):
you want to ride the roller coaster with me? And
I was like, I can't be all bro in front
of her. So it's the only time I've ever been
on a roller coaster. I hated it. This was out
of six flags. Let's see where this was here, Kansas City.
This girl was on this roller coaster and her the
seat belt, it popped off, it came undone. Can you

(16:45):
imagine whatever was holding you in came undone. Here's what
happened here.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Does first dropped halfway through the hill.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I'm sorry, this is really emotional because this so carl
the scream that she scrubbed.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
I've never heard anything like that before.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
This couple down.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
My seatbell came off. There was this big of a
gap between her and the lap bar.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The mamb the park's tallest roller coaster, reaching speeds of
seventy five miles per hour, that you quickly clutching both
the girl and her friend until.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
The e is the Trevor Jerry Show on the Valley's
Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Or you're old enough to run with gangs and gang
bang or whatever, or pull a trigger or stab somebody,
there needs to be ramifications for those actions. In California,
it's gone so lenient by this and well, fifty seven
was voted in by the voters. Voters. We can blame
the elected officials all that we want, but we need
to change the way that we vote in this state.

(17:43):
And there's some people that want to stay in this state.
They don't want to run and flee. They love it here,
they have family here, but they've lost family in this state.
And that's why I reform for P. Fifty seven is
in action. Stephen Quick he lost his son Caleb, and
that is in court right. Yeah, we'll talk to him
in a moment. But something that I will say that's

(18:04):
beautiful that has come from tragedy is families that didn't
even know each other that now have shared and gone
through the same loss. And it's really hard to relate
to somebody unless you've you know, walked a mile in
their shoes, and these families have walked hundreds of miles
on their bare feet, and they're aching out there. Susan Grote,

(18:26):
I met her out there. Susan, Welcome to the show.
Good to see you.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Again, Thank you, thank you for having us you.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Betcha it was would you say, did I use the
right word beautiful? Coming together these family members, because it's
I mean, you're living through pain. Every day is an
up and down. Susan. Tell your story of your son, Matthew.
Matthew Bonds.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, it is really good to have support from people
that truly understand what we're going through. And as far
as my family and I just want other people to
look at it as we did. We've seen it and
other families happen. We never in a million years thought
it would happen to ours. There was just no reason

(19:07):
for us to even think that, but it did. On
January sixth, twenty twenty four, we got the call that
forever changed our lives, that we were totally thrown off guard.
All four family members, my son, my beautiful daughter in law, Loope,

(19:27):
his grandfather, my son's grandfather Billy, and his dad Daryl
were all murdered at the hands of a juvenal. This
was a neighbor, someone that the grandpa had been friends
with his grandpa for many years, and his grandpa had
passed away of cancer, but the mother continued to live
there with her son. We knew there was a lot

(19:49):
of drug activity over there, we were told, but we
never thought they were a threat.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
What town if you said it, I'm sorry? What town?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Was this in Reedley?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
In Reedley? Yes? Is kind of in the country or
is this no?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
In town? On Church Street in Realley?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
So this, this young murderer was known by the family.
That's I mean, like you know Christmas, hey, you know
friendly ish? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, Well I know with the kid, I call him
the kid. He's not a kid now, he's an adult.
But the juvenile was actually started talking to my son
a few weeks prior, and my son being older, my
son was forty three. He was seventeen at the time,
and they kind of struck up a friendship, you know,
and I thought it was kind of odd. But my

(20:34):
son had that big heart. He was that big teddy
bear that always wanted to help people. And he felt
sorry for him because he knew the environment in which
he lived. He didn't have a jacket. My son bottom
a jacket. He was trying to talk the grandpa into
paying their electric bill because he said, you know, their
front window was busted out. Felt sorry for him. The
grandpa said, I've helped him time and time again. I've

(20:55):
come to their aid, I've gotten their cars out of impound.
And he says, our money just goes to drugs, and
I'm not helping him anymore. And the kid was seventeen,
kid was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
What what did police say led to what was the reason?
That's all? It was?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, I mean, from what we know, like it's an
ongoing case and we haven't gone to trial, so anything
that we might think or suspect would just be speculation
on our part. But they did retrieve, like they broke
into a safe that was all put in the paper. Yeah,
they busted a big old safe out and took guns

(21:32):
and money. Everybody kind of knew that Billy had money,
you know, he liked to brag about his granty, that's
the grandpa, And like I said, he'd loan the money before,
so they knew. They knew it was there, they knew
it was accessible.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Can you say they did he have accomplices?

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, that's something that is yet to be seen. But
there were arrest made at the beginning of the mom
and the boyfriend of the stuvenile, which have been released
for now, So we're just waiting to hear what you
know wants. The evidence is all in. It doesn't sound
logical that he could do something like this by himself,

(22:10):
this little spronny teenager. These were three adults that were
not small. You know. My son was a big boy.
His grandpa and his dad were pretty big, and my
daughter in law just a little over average maybe, But
you know.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I hard to ask things like this, how they lose
their lives? What did he use?

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Well, they were all shot shot. Yeah, they were all
killed by a handgun as far as I know, And
like I said, we don't know a lot of details
just because it's pending. We haven't even got to a
transfer hearing yet, which we're going on twenty two months
as of today, it's been twenty two months actually.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
And what Prop fifty seven and why individuals like Susan
and Steven are fighting this and other families are. It
used to be where the district attorney would decide if
a seventeen or sixteen or fifteen year old would be
tried as a an adult. And they get elected, they're
elected representatives, they have to go out there and face
the public on their decisions a Prop fifty seven now

(23:08):
and thanks to Steven Quick for educating me on all
of this, but it now leads it up to the judges.
And we know that there's some good judges and there's
some bad judges. There's some good judges that think they
got a bleeding heart and they're going to help these
kids and they get out what when they're early twenties.
A lot of times do.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Twenty five would be the maximm but with good behavior,
they're usually looking at maybe three four, maybe five years
at the most.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, Ramon, one of the great people in your group
here he came in and talked about the individual that
took his brother's life is already going to Sack State,
well like an ankle monitor or something.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
She literally and I spoke to the mom and she
literally only spent two years in juvenile hall and now
is living in a dorm, going to school at Sacramento
State on our dime. And she stabbed her son teen times, and.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
The boyfriend nilated the body.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
The boyfriend admitted to mutilating the body, and they're both
already out. He was an adult and he only got
three years and eight months for accessory to murder. And
that's what I want to bring up too. Do you
know that accessory to murder is the same amount of
holds the same amount of time as accessory to burglary?
How could that be? And that was told to me

(24:24):
by our da.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Wow, now you're hoping that transfer hearing? When do you
think it'd be this calendar year?

Speaker 6 (24:32):
We know we've already been told it won't be until
next year, but we're hoping that it will be scheduled
when we go back January or I'm sorry, November seventeenth.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Is this man that took your family's life? Is he?
I'm sure. Is he he's still locked in right.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
He's in custody right now.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, Now he was seventeen when it happened. Yes, Is
he now in grown up jail?

Speaker 6 (24:54):
No, of course not. Now that's something I didn't know
either going into this, And that's why people need to
know the truth, because used to before Prop. Fifty seven,
if you were eighteen and you were in juvenile hall,
you were automatically transferred into adult Joel. That is not
the case anymore. That's and like you said, it's no
longer up to the prosecutor. It's up to the judge

(25:16):
to decide whether or not they'll be transferred as an adult.
And it just seems like it's so unlikely after all
the cases that I've seen, and justice is not being served.
They talk about brain development at you know, oh, they're
not developed until they're twenty five. But yet you can
join the army or the service at eighteen, You can

(25:37):
go out and buy Siaret's at eighteen, you can buy
alcohol at.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Twenty one in judge seventy eight miles an hour at sixteen.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, And I don't know if you're aware of the
fact that the juvenile's records are also selled. So they're
trying to talk about crime rate going down when it's
actually not. For one, they're not being prosecuted. For another,
if they're a juvenile, nobody he ever knows that crime
is not reported, it's silled.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
If it's sealed, then that young woman that took Ramone's
brother's life going to Sack state. Yep, he mentioned. I
think she's in psychology or studying some like that. Yeah,
so five years from now, you can be laying on accounts,
filling your guts to somebody that was involved with cutting
a body up and stabbing somebody and you never know it,
and the person that was hiring them would not be
able to look into that. Even murder, even murder.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Even murder, even murder. And the thing about Prop. Fifty seven,
when it was voted in in twenty sixteen, it specifically
states for non violent crimes. So in twenty eighteen they
rephrase the word violent to now, I guess murder is

(26:46):
not violent, rape is not violent, Sex trafficking is not violent.
You know, how could this be? And I don't know
if it's just California, but this is where I've seen
it be the worst.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well, you know, many people on datastranger dot com and
they go, oh, I did a background check. I guess
this would be hidden from any future background checks. You
could be at your first date dinner, Oh, you have
beautiful hands. Yes, they stabbed somebody nineteen times exactly. You
wouldn't know it.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Or it could be your child sitting in class with
a student that murdered someone. Yeah, and they and you
you wouldn't know it. They wouldn't know it. It's just
not right, and we're not just trying. I mean, our
family members are gone, right. I mean, I know that
my son's in heaven. I know his family's in heaven,
but we can't bring them back. And we are you know,

(27:36):
Thanksgivings coming up. That was a huge holiday for us
because my son and my daughter in law did everything
they did all.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
That's going to be the second holiday season.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah, and this I'm sorry, I'm trying to tell it.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Shouldn't have brought up holiday season. Sorry.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Yeah, see, he does get to us. But you know,
they did everything, they prepared, all the mills, they did
at all, and we were all there and there's not
going to just be one empty chair. There's four at
that house. And I grew up in that house and
it's hard. And like I said, people don't get it
because they think this is sad. Yeah, this is sad,

(28:12):
but it won't happen to us. That's what we thought,
and we need to stop it right now before it
does happen to your family.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, Susan grotis my guest. Matthew bonds er son lost
his life along with their other family members that are
wanting to reform Prop fifty seven. And I think I
said this to Stephen in one of the interviews is
that the Charlie Kirk Memorial and RFK Junior was speaking
and he said, his grandmother. You know their family, they
had a lot of people shot and killed. And he

(28:40):
said one of the older family members in the Kennedy
family said, the whole never goes away, and it's how
you fill that hole up, and it'll never be fully
filled up. But what I see you doing, Susan and
Steven doing in these family members, it's maybe you don't
even realize how much of the hole you're filling up
right now, but with your determination for your love, you are.

(29:01):
So I say that back to you, gonna come back here,
We're gonna talk to Stephen Quick his son Caleb, and
that's still going through the court process, just like Susan's
family is still going through it. Guys, we got to
reform this state and we got to reform Prop fifty
seven more.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Next, this is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's
Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Just the loss and all. I just applaud you guys
for doing what you're doing. Susan, thank you for sharing
what you shared. I know it is hard on you,
but thank you.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Thank you so much for having us. And I just
want people out there to know that, you know, we
could use everybody's support and if there's somebody that's in
politics that would like to help us out and kind
of give.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Us imagine imagine that. Okay, that's a good question asked.
Has anybody stepped up?

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Well, we've got Who do we have in our corner?
I mean, I know for us.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
You can't name three right now. I'm mess okay, no, no,
not at you, No, not at you, no, no, I know,
not at me.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Lisa, this med Camp for One has our back, and
Deborah Miller also, which is assistant DA and I believe
that we have Tony Pap on our side.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Sim and David Tongapak, Yes, he's fighting hard as well.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, it's good to hear that we need a lot
more out there because this is not something that's a
partisan Democrat, Republican independent thing. This can strike anybody at
any time. You lived a tranquil life in a small
California town and that was inflicted upon you. Susan, thank you.
Is there anything that you want to say in closing?
Before we handed off to John Lennon over.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Here, I just want to add, you know that this
doesn't just happen to people that are in gangs or
you know, these are just ordinary people living their lives.
My son's grandfather was a bus driver and my son
just a heart of gold along with his father that
was actually blind. So you're thinking, okay, they killed an
eighty year old man, a sixty two year old man.

(30:54):
My daughter in law, Lupia, she was my daughter in
law for twenty four years, so she was my daughter law.
She volunteered for everything, really for life. She was in
the Lions Club, she fed the homeless, she did a
bread ministry which we're doing now. And you know, you
just can't see enough about them, and their hearts were
just so pure and just wanted to help out the community.

(31:15):
They did not deserve to die. If they wanted to
come in and rob them, that'd be okay with me.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
They sound like people that they went in and had
to do that. It sound like they already asked for
things and they gave out of the kindness of their
heart to this.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
They did to the time.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, Susan, God bless you, Thank you, Trevor, you bet
youa steven quick ladies and gentlemen, sir, good to see you.
And again thanks to how rounding up all these people.
I guess they're they're flocking in because it's too many
of them. It shouldn't be this many.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
No, it shouldn't be any last time I was here,
we're at twenty one. I think we're at twenty three now.
Families that have we keep adding them, and we're going
to keep adding because this law Prop. Fifty seven was
enacted in twenty sixteen and it's just made a huge
impact and like with Susan was saying earlier, really hasn't
gone down. They just renamed it, they recategorized it, and

(32:03):
they're all being these criminals. They're not actually criminals because
of the juvenile court system. It's a civil matter, so
it's not a criminal matter. So all these criminals are
not being tried as criminals. They're being stuck in the
juvenile system, almost being coddled so that the numbers can
go down. In California, you're saying, hey, the crime's down. Reality,
they're all being hidden in the juvenile system. And she

(32:25):
alluded to some of these. You know, you expect it
in the juvenile system when they're eighteen, they're get transferred.
But no, you've got twenty five, twenty three, twenty, you know,
twenty one year olds that are in the juvenile system
with other true juveniles. I mean, a fifteen year old
is much different than a twenty three year old.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I just came aware of that in our conversation today,
that that happened. Steven Quick. I don't always ask him
to tell his story, but I'll just say recap. It's
been all over the media. Back in the spring of
McDonald's his son Caleb was shot outside in the parking
lot by two juveniles and the girl was a getaway driver,

(33:03):
the guy was the alleged shooter. It's still in court,
and thanks to Prop fifty seven, it's now going to
be decided by this judge. I know there was a
court what was it last week and it's now been
pushed again. Yes.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, So there's my case. I got two judges because
there's two individuals that colluded together that I call them
Bonnie and Clyde because their names are something like synonymous
to that, and so each of them has a different judge,
so I can we can get a favorable judge or
an unfavorable judge. You know, that's still the premise, and
the burden of proof is going to be on the

(33:39):
district attorneys to prove each case. So for mine, it
is very difficult because you've got a different judge under
this really the same case. You know, there's two individuals
that colluded and did this together.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, is there an agent? I think I've asked you
this before. You know, I said, an eight year old.
That's just a number that popped in my head. I
guess it be a case by case scenario of what
is the right age to say no, you're a child
and you don't need to be for the rest of
your life. You know, they grew up in an abusive house.
You know, we've got to factor it all in I'm

(34:12):
all for fifteen and above is where I do it.
And even if a fourteen or a thirteen year old,
depending on the circumstances, I would say they should get
a lot longer as well. Where do you as the
father that lost.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
Us well, under assembly built thirteen ninety one, if you're
fifteen or younger, you're well, you're not qualified, you're disqualified
for a transference. You will absolutely stay in the juvenile system.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Just so we're talking sixteen, So you're.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
Sixteen seventeen year olds, right, and yeah, So they look
at different criteria, they look at past history, they look
at if they're even amenable to being rehabilitated, and so
they've got to go through a process of trying to
prove that they're not able to be rehabilitated, so therefore

(34:57):
they must be transferred. And so there's a lot of
tax dollars being spent in preparation and time that goes
on for months and months, Like Susan's like twenty two months.
I'm just month six on it now. It could go
on for thirty six months.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And you know, and I always think about the gang
bangers looking at this as hey, they're sixteen year old.
You want to come out and be a godfather of
the gang, go do this and if you get caught,
you'll be out when you're twenty three and we'll hook
you up, right, I mean those are soldiers. They would
go after.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh, absolutely they do. We have a few in our
family that have been victims of that. Brandon and Santa Maria.
He yeah, he was gunned down at fourth of July
at fourteen year old walked up and said, hey, do
I know you? Brandon is twenty years old, and the
kid put four in him and ran away.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Susan Steven, thank you for your courage and your continued
fight for your sons and for the killers to face
the justice. Online presence, where do they go to join?

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Up?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
There? Right now?

Speaker 7 (35:57):
Facebook, Lorenzo Law just put anything out there.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Todays Assistant Trevor Carey show on The Valley's Power Talk