May 30, 2023 • 15 mins
Maria chats with Nat Geo Kids Editor Kathryn Williams about WEIRD BUT TRUE! SHARKS.
As they say "300 fin-nomenal facts to dive into" about sharks.
Did you know that unborn sharks can sense danger?! And sharks don't blink!
Learn about sharks in a fun way--give a listen!
As they say "300 fin-nomenal facts to dive into" about sharks.
Did you know that unborn sharks can sense danger?! And sharks don't blink!
Learn about sharks in a fun way--give a listen!
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(00:01):
It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. Whata great idea On iHeart Radio. Welcome
to Maria's MutS and Stuff with meis nat GEO Kids editor Catherine Williams,
and we're going to talk about thebook Weird but True Sharks. How are
you today? I love this book. I'm doing great. I'm excited.
(00:27):
I know, Oh my goodness.So I love the fact that right off
the bat, it's like three hundredphenomenal, phenomenal f I n facts to
dive into, clever and cute.I can't believe all of it I was
reading it. There are so much, I mean most of the facts I
had no idea about. So thismust have been so much fun for you.
(00:48):
I'm sure you knew a lot moreabout it than I did. But
tell me, how how did thisall begin? Like, how did you
decide on the three hundred fun factsthat made it to this book? Yeah?
So, um, I actually learneda lot. I did not know
most of this. Good. Okay, sorry, so good. And so
(01:14):
we get writers and researchers um workon all of our Weird but True books,
and they send me a list oflike the facts that they want to
include in the book. And it'smy job to tell them whether I think
the facts are weird enough, whetherwe have enough diversity in the facts about
different kinds of sharks. So it'sa big team effort. Um. They
(01:34):
look for facts everywhere, from newspaperarticles, the scholarly journals. They'll call
um experts to talk to them aboutsharks. UM and so I get all
of that, and then I decidewhich which three hundred facts make the cut,
and I also come up with puns. Right, Oh you did,
Oh, look at you. That'sso clever. They're so clever. I
(01:57):
can't believe it. That's really good. Congratulations to you. Thank you.
No, it's true. I mean, like I said, even the front,
the front cover, the phenomenal factsto dive into. It's just so
perfect. So, um is,do you have a favorite fact, a
weird but true fact about sharks oris that too hard? My favorite?
(02:19):
I mean, they're all good,and I feel like I'll have a different
one every time you're ask me.But I really like, um, the
whale sharks have tiny teeth that covertheir eyeballs is one of my favorite.
Like that, it's very weird,it's true. Yeah, it looks Oh,
I know, well that's the thing, right, which is bizarre,
(02:44):
but they have little teeth instead ofeyelids, so yeah, yeah, And
I mean the photos, uh,and some of the little drawings too.
They're just so perfect with it.I mean, I just the whole layout
honestly. I mean, obviously it'saimed to kids, correct, but as
an adult I really enjoyed it becauseit's fun. Like I said, there
(03:06):
are many things I don't know ordidn't know, and I feel like with
the drawings and everything, I meanthe photos and just the way it's laid
out, with the graphics and everything, it makes it really interesting that even
an adult can enjoy it and absorbthe information. Yeah, that's that's what
we hope. I mean, Ilove it. I learned a lot every
(03:28):
time I work on one of thesebooks, and the goal is kind of
for a kid to open the bookand then it just captures their attention.
So, like you said, wespent a lot of time making sure that
it's fun. There's so many images, and some of them are a little
tongue in cheek. We include littlejokes and philly images alongside these like really
(03:49):
cool shark photos, which is coolto really get kids curious. Yeah,
yeah, for sure, Like Ilearned that. First of all, I
didn't realize that there was a sharkcalled a pajama shark and that they curl
into a ball when when there couldbe something dangerous, Like who would think
of a shark being able to dothat? Yeah, it's really cool.
(04:12):
I mean, the pajama shark isso cool. It's got stripes like striped
pajamas. It curls into a ball. We have, um, we have
a lot of stuff about great whitesharks and the sharks that are really popular,
but we also have some sharks thatare kind of obscure, that are
weird, goblin sharks that are pinkand live in the deep seam, the
woebegong sharks that have castled around theirmouths, and just bizarre sharks that most
(04:39):
people probably haven't seen true or evenheard of, you know what I mean?
Because you're right, because most becausea lot of shows, you know,
are stuff of the educational films andeverything, it's usually about great whites,
you know, right right, Alot of focus on that. Um.
I Actually one of the other onesthat act was like what that unborn
sharks can sense danger like and andthen a little picture of that of the
(05:01):
two of them in kind of theircapsule or whatever you want to call it.
Like, why what how can theysense danger? That's amazing? Yeah,
Unborn sharks are fascinating. They alsoum, some sharks lay eggs,
like have egg cases so that theylay them and they leave them. Uh,
and then other sharks give birth tolive babies and um. Sometimes when
(05:25):
the live babies are inside their mothers, they can like fight with each other
and eat each other and they're swimmingaround. It's very weird. So weird.
I mean, like it's like,okay, wait, their Survival of
the Fittest, but wait what they'regoing to eat each other? Like,
yeah, they're they're getting started reallyyoung. On I'm being predators right,
(05:47):
let's start now. You know,you can talk about sibling rivalry. It's
like wait what but um no,I just think it's it's just you know,
it's a great little book. Imean I could see this will definitely
be available obviously for people to buyit. But this should go to like
every single school. I would think, like an elementary school maybe or a
(06:09):
middle school. Yeah, we writeit with middle school kids in mind,
but elementary school kids there's a lotof pictures to look at. I feel
like it's the kind of book thatcan grow as a kid. Um And
uh yeah, I think it's it'swhen we want to ignite you know,
curiosity over and have kids learned,but they maybe it doesn't feel so much
(06:29):
like learning or super serious. It'sa very fun experience, right, And
that's the way you really, Imean even for adults, that's how you
absorb information if it's exciting or orsomething about it makes it stand out as
opposed to just reading a book offacts, you know, Like I think
a book like this because of thecleverness of the captions and the photos and
(06:53):
it's just like wait what you know, like you'll you'll grasp it. Like
I when I first got the bookand I was flipping through it, and
I remembered about the unborn sharks andthe image uh was you know, kind
of stayed in my brain and thenI thought, oh, I want to
ask Katherine about it. Let mego find it. So it was easy,
you know, I mean, like, oh, look, I remembered
it because of the caption and thephoto. So I think, um,
(07:16):
for you know, for younger kidswho you want to learn more. I
think this it's just perfect the wayit is because, yeah, it grabs
your attention. Yeah, yeah,definitely. Um, and it's cool because
a lot of uh, we havethis photo research team on staff that they
(07:38):
do all of the photo selections,and um, some of these pots are
just so cool and the illustrations arereally funny. But there's nothing like a
kid really getting to see what theactual animal looks like, right, I
mean the um the basking shark hasthis huge mouth that's just really bizarre,
and you really have to see thephotos to get how weird it is.
(08:00):
So I love being able to showthese photos alongside the facts and like all
their glory. Yeah, for sure. And then there's also kind of the
helpful tip on page one fifteen thatyou could use white modeling, chocolate sugarcubes
and marshballows to make teeth for ashark cake. Yes, we have a
(08:22):
We have some fun with some ofthese facts to see, like, how
can we get a shark fact that'snot really a shark fact? So we
do. We have some facts inthe book about the song baby shark,
facts about the the fake shark thatwas used in the movie Jaws. Right.
Another kind of pop culture are random. Fact. We have a little
of the cake pictures very funny.The cake pictures really funny because it's a
(08:46):
shark cake. But metime it's nextto a shark in the water with its
big mouth open. You know,you're like, wait, what, Yeah,
it's great? Why is it?And I didn't realize this. Why
can't sharks swim backwards? I don'tthink anyone would ever we think about that
kind of assume, like any anythingcan go frontwards and backwards. How come
they can't swim backwards? Are theythe only Yeah, it's just a fact.
(09:11):
Uh, yeah, I suppose thatthey're Yeah, maybe it's not as
important for them. I guess whatthey're doing. Yeah, because I guess.
I guess if you're a shark,nobody's going to sneak up behind you
to try to get you because you'rea shark, you know what I mean?
Yeah, for the most part,But there is so Orcas do eat
(09:33):
great white sharks um sometimes so usuallysharks are on the top of the food
chain, but they do have to, uh they do to worry about orca
whales who they hunt them and packs, which isn't is one of the facts
in the books not so fun forthe for the shark, for the shark
thing for us, yeah for sure. Yeah, but I think other than
(09:54):
um, other than that, Ifeel like, yeah, like you said,
sharks are pretty much on top ofthe chain and so not that they're
fearless, but they probably they don't. They watch their backs, but they
don't have to watch their backs asmuch as other ones that are smaller than
them, you know, because you'resurely yeah, yeah, absolutely, I
(10:16):
mean they're really designed for for hunting, and um, they are very very
good at it, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. No,
it's a great little book. AndI just I just want to ask you
something because I was reading in yourbio that you have and I just want
to ask you where this came from. It said that you have an especially
soft spot for bugs, snakes,and other creepy crawleys, which is kind
(10:39):
of rare unless somebody's really into insectsand stuff. So tell me where did
that come from? And have youalways felt that way even as a child.
Um So, even as a kid, I like to play around with
bugs in the garden and stuff likethat. But when I was a teenager,
I volunteered at the zoo where Igrew up, So I grew up
(11:01):
outside of New Orleans, and itwas always really hot, and the mammals
that the zoo are always staying indoorsin the shade. So I would hold
snakes in the sun and show themto visitors and talk about them, and
I really got to have a softspot for snakes. Especially. Yeah,
(11:22):
that's pretty cool and I feel verysmooth. I can't touch them, yeah,
and no fear, no fear ofthem at all, well, as
long as they're not I mean,I wasn't holding any of the venomous one,
so I'm totally like, if it'svenomous or something, I will just
respect it from far away. Sure, no, no, that makes sense.
But I think a lot of timesit's like people have fears of things
(11:43):
because they don't because it's different inthe sense of, well, a snake
doesn't have legs or arms, soit's kind of weird to them, and
I think maybe that's why they're afraidof it, or they watch the movie
where somebody got choked by a snake, But like, I don't if it's
you know, if it's not likea snake that's going to do that,
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like people's fears sometimes is
based on like something they saw ina movie or something that's really not a
(12:07):
fact. Yeah, we're kids willwatch like I had plenty of people and
I'm holding snake with holding things thatwould like scream and run away, and
then kids see their parents do that, and then they just think, Okay,
that's a dangerous thing, right,So it's totally no, you're right,
because you know what, I seethat with dogs. It's usually if
a parent is afraid of a dog, their kids are afraid of dogs too.
(12:30):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah,yeah, So do you have a
favorite bug? A favorite bug?Oh my goodness, I do love bugs.
I'm so fascinated by love bugs.We had this uh, this cicada,
this super cicada brood come out andbe see um in twenty twenty one.
(12:54):
So there were just cicadas everywhere andthat was very cool, cool experience.
So you're probably one of the veryfew people that that doesn't it doesn't
bother them if you accidentally step onlike the crunchy shells right after it comes
out of a shell, that reallyfreaks people out. Yeah no, I
(13:16):
did too, But that really freakspeople out when they step on those.
You know, you're not stepping onanything, it's just the shell, you
know. But yeah, that's prettyfunny. Yeah, yeah, they are
kind of cool thoughts. They arelike little aliens. You're right. I
never thought of it like that.Absolutely, that's so funny. That's really
cool. You know. I wasjust thinking when you talked about the snake
(13:37):
skin, that, um, sharkskin, which I would never think,
feels like sam paper. I learnedthat in your book. Yeah. Yeah,
especially there's I forget the particular directionthat you rub it in. It's
it's it's sad, papery and rough. Um. Yeah. Uh. And
the scientists are like their mom uhwetsuits and things off of off of shark
(14:03):
skin to see like if there's waysto improve our own technology using using shark
skin. Interesting, so interesting,So okay, so now um weird but
true sharks. So this just cameout. And where can listeners get it?
Wherever books are sold you can,yeah, wherever books are sold online.
(14:24):
Um, you can often find ourour books in the non fiction kids
section of a bookstore. And wehave these like bright yellow signs and borders,
so they're really easy to see.Um. And if they want more
info about National Geographic Kids. Um, we have games and animal fact sheets
and stuff on our website which iskids dot National Geographic dot com. So
that's easy too. And so whatis next for you now that Sharks is
(14:48):
done? So we've got more weirdbut True in the work always hum.
We haven't run out of stuff yet. I also been working on a really
big version of weir Butrue Weird butTrue World, which is all weird things
around their places from every continent.Um. And yeah, I've got a
(15:11):
bunch of other exciting, exciting thingsin the work. Well excellent, So
that means we'll definitely talk again.But congratulations and thanks for talking about Weird
but True Sharks. Catherine Williams.I will think of you this summer when
I see so many more bugs around. Um, I will think of you
enjoying the bugs. But anyway,thanks for talking about the book today.
(15:33):
I appreciate your time. Thank you. Okay, take care bye.
It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. Whata great idea On iHeart Radio. Welcome
to Maria's MutS and Stuff with meis nat GEO Kids editor Catherine Williams,
and we're going to talk about thebook Weird but True Sharks. How are
you today? I love this book. I'm doing great. I'm excited.
(00:27):
I know, Oh my goodness.So I love the fact that right off
the bat, it's like three hundredphenomenal, phenomenal f I n facts to
dive into, clever and cute.I can't believe all of it I was
reading it. There are so much, I mean most of the facts I
had no idea about. So thismust have been so much fun for you.
(00:48):
I'm sure you knew a lot moreabout it than I did. But
tell me, how how did thisall begin? Like, how did you
decide on the three hundred fun factsthat made it to this book? Yeah?
So, um, I actually learneda lot. I did not know
most of this. Good. Okay, sorry, so good. And so
(01:14):
we get writers and researchers um workon all of our Weird but True books,
and they send me a list oflike the facts that they want to
include in the book. And it'smy job to tell them whether I think
the facts are weird enough, whetherwe have enough diversity in the facts about
different kinds of sharks. So it'sa big team effort. Um. They
(01:34):
look for facts everywhere, from newspaperarticles, the scholarly journals. They'll call
um experts to talk to them aboutsharks. UM and so I get all
of that, and then I decidewhich which three hundred facts make the cut,
and I also come up with puns. Right, Oh you did,
Oh, look at you. That'sso clever. They're so clever. I
(01:57):
can't believe it. That's really good. Congratulations to you. Thank you.
No, it's true. I mean, like I said, even the front,
the front cover, the phenomenal factsto dive into. It's just so
perfect. So, um is,do you have a favorite fact, a
weird but true fact about sharks oris that too hard? My favorite?
(02:19):
I mean, they're all good,and I feel like I'll have a different
one every time you're ask me.But I really like, um, the
whale sharks have tiny teeth that covertheir eyeballs is one of my favorite.
Like that, it's very weird,it's true. Yeah, it looks Oh,
I know, well that's the thing, right, which is bizarre,
(02:44):
but they have little teeth instead ofeyelids, so yeah, yeah, And
I mean the photos, uh,and some of the little drawings too.
They're just so perfect with it.I mean, I just the whole layout
honestly. I mean, obviously it'saimed to kids, correct, but as
an adult I really enjoyed it becauseit's fun. Like I said, there
(03:06):
are many things I don't know ordidn't know, and I feel like with
the drawings and everything, I meanthe photos and just the way it's laid
out, with the graphics and everything, it makes it really interesting that even
an adult can enjoy it and absorbthe information. Yeah, that's that's what
we hope. I mean, Ilove it. I learned a lot every
(03:28):
time I work on one of thesebooks, and the goal is kind of
for a kid to open the bookand then it just captures their attention.
So, like you said, wespent a lot of time making sure that
it's fun. There's so many images, and some of them are a little
tongue in cheek. We include littlejokes and philly images alongside these like really
(03:49):
cool shark photos, which is coolto really get kids curious. Yeah,
yeah, for sure, Like Ilearned that. First of all, I
didn't realize that there was a sharkcalled a pajama shark and that they curl
into a ball when when there couldbe something dangerous, Like who would think
of a shark being able to dothat? Yeah, it's really cool.
(04:12):
I mean, the pajama shark isso cool. It's got stripes like striped
pajamas. It curls into a ball. We have, um, we have
a lot of stuff about great whitesharks and the sharks that are really popular,
but we also have some sharks thatare kind of obscure, that are
weird, goblin sharks that are pinkand live in the deep seam, the
woebegong sharks that have castled around theirmouths, and just bizarre sharks that most
(04:39):
people probably haven't seen true or evenheard of, you know what I mean?
Because you're right, because most becausea lot of shows, you know,
are stuff of the educational films andeverything, it's usually about great whites,
you know, right right, Alot of focus on that. Um.
I Actually one of the other onesthat act was like what that unborn
sharks can sense danger like and andthen a little picture of that of the
(05:01):
two of them in kind of theircapsule or whatever you want to call it.
Like, why what how can theysense danger? That's amazing? Yeah,
Unborn sharks are fascinating. They alsoum, some sharks lay eggs,
like have egg cases so that theylay them and they leave them. Uh,
and then other sharks give birth tolive babies and um. Sometimes when
(05:25):
the live babies are inside their mothers, they can like fight with each other
and eat each other and they're swimmingaround. It's very weird. So weird.
I mean, like it's like,okay, wait, their Survival of
the Fittest, but wait what they'regoing to eat each other? Like,
yeah, they're they're getting started reallyyoung. On I'm being predators right,
(05:47):
let's start now. You know,you can talk about sibling rivalry. It's
like wait what but um no,I just think it's it's just you know,
it's a great little book. Imean I could see this will definitely
be available obviously for people to buyit. But this should go to like
every single school. I would think, like an elementary school maybe or a
(06:09):
middle school. Yeah, we writeit with middle school kids in mind,
but elementary school kids there's a lotof pictures to look at. I feel
like it's the kind of book thatcan grow as a kid. Um And
uh yeah, I think it's it'swhen we want to ignite you know,
curiosity over and have kids learned,but they maybe it doesn't feel so much
(06:29):
like learning or super serious. It'sa very fun experience, right, And
that's the way you really, Imean even for adults, that's how you
absorb information if it's exciting or orsomething about it makes it stand out as
opposed to just reading a book offacts, you know, Like I think
a book like this because of thecleverness of the captions and the photos and
(06:53):
it's just like wait what you know, like you'll you'll grasp it. Like
I when I first got the bookand I was flipping through it, and
I remembered about the unborn sharks andthe image uh was you know, kind
of stayed in my brain and thenI thought, oh, I want to
ask Katherine about it. Let mego find it. So it was easy,
you know, I mean, like, oh, look, I remembered
it because of the caption and thephoto. So I think, um,
(07:16):
for you know, for younger kidswho you want to learn more. I
think this it's just perfect the wayit is because, yeah, it grabs
your attention. Yeah, yeah,definitely. Um, and it's cool because
a lot of uh, we havethis photo research team on staff that they
(07:38):
do all of the photo selections,and um, some of these pots are
just so cool and the illustrations arereally funny. But there's nothing like a
kid really getting to see what theactual animal looks like, right, I
mean the um the basking shark hasthis huge mouth that's just really bizarre,
and you really have to see thephotos to get how weird it is.
(08:00):
So I love being able to showthese photos alongside the facts and like all
their glory. Yeah, for sure. And then there's also kind of the
helpful tip on page one fifteen thatyou could use white modeling, chocolate sugarcubes
and marshballows to make teeth for ashark cake. Yes, we have a
(08:22):
We have some fun with some ofthese facts to see, like, how
can we get a shark fact that'snot really a shark fact? So we
do. We have some facts inthe book about the song baby shark,
facts about the the fake shark thatwas used in the movie Jaws. Right.
Another kind of pop culture are random. Fact. We have a little
of the cake pictures very funny.The cake pictures really funny because it's a
(08:46):
shark cake. But metime it's nextto a shark in the water with its
big mouth open. You know,you're like, wait, what, Yeah,
it's great? Why is it?And I didn't realize this. Why
can't sharks swim backwards? I don'tthink anyone would ever we think about that
kind of assume, like any anythingcan go frontwards and backwards. How come
they can't swim backwards? Are theythe only Yeah, it's just a fact.
(09:11):
Uh, yeah, I suppose thatthey're Yeah, maybe it's not as
important for them. I guess whatthey're doing. Yeah, because I guess.
I guess if you're a shark,nobody's going to sneak up behind you
to try to get you because you'rea shark, you know what I mean?
Yeah, for the most part,But there is so Orcas do eat
(09:33):
great white sharks um sometimes so usuallysharks are on the top of the food
chain, but they do have to, uh they do to worry about orca
whales who they hunt them and packs, which isn't is one of the facts
in the books not so fun forthe for the shark, for the shark
thing for us, yeah for sure. Yeah, but I think other than
(09:54):
um, other than that, Ifeel like, yeah, like you said,
sharks are pretty much on top ofthe chain and so not that they're
fearless, but they probably they don't. They watch their backs, but they
don't have to watch their backs asmuch as other ones that are smaller than
them, you know, because you'resurely yeah, yeah, absolutely, I
(10:16):
mean they're really designed for for hunting, and um, they are very very
good at it, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. No,
it's a great little book. AndI just I just want to ask you
something because I was reading in yourbio that you have and I just want
to ask you where this came from. It said that you have an especially
soft spot for bugs, snakes,and other creepy crawleys, which is kind
(10:39):
of rare unless somebody's really into insectsand stuff. So tell me where did
that come from? And have youalways felt that way even as a child.
Um So, even as a kid, I like to play around with
bugs in the garden and stuff likethat. But when I was a teenager,
I volunteered at the zoo where Igrew up, So I grew up
(11:01):
outside of New Orleans, and itwas always really hot, and the mammals
that the zoo are always staying indoorsin the shade. So I would hold
snakes in the sun and show themto visitors and talk about them, and
I really got to have a softspot for snakes. Especially. Yeah,
(11:22):
that's pretty cool and I feel verysmooth. I can't touch them, yeah,
and no fear, no fear ofthem at all, well, as
long as they're not I mean,I wasn't holding any of the venomous one,
so I'm totally like, if it'svenomous or something, I will just
respect it from far away. Sure, no, no, that makes sense.
But I think a lot of timesit's like people have fears of things
(11:43):
because they don't because it's different inthe sense of, well, a snake
doesn't have legs or arms, soit's kind of weird to them, and
I think maybe that's why they're afraidof it, or they watch the movie
where somebody got choked by a snake, But like, I don't if it's
you know, if it's not likea snake that's going to do that,
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like people's fears sometimes is
based on like something they saw ina movie or something that's really not a
(12:07):
fact. Yeah, we're kids willwatch like I had plenty of people and
I'm holding snake with holding things thatwould like scream and run away, and
then kids see their parents do that, and then they just think, Okay,
that's a dangerous thing, right,So it's totally no, you're right,
because you know what, I seethat with dogs. It's usually if
a parent is afraid of a dog, their kids are afraid of dogs too.
(12:30):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah,yeah, So do you have a
favorite bug? A favorite bug?Oh my goodness, I do love bugs.
I'm so fascinated by love bugs.We had this uh, this cicada,
this super cicada brood come out andbe see um in twenty twenty one.
(12:54):
So there were just cicadas everywhere andthat was very cool, cool experience.
So you're probably one of the veryfew people that that doesn't it doesn't
bother them if you accidentally step onlike the crunchy shells right after it comes
out of a shell, that reallyfreaks people out. Yeah no, I
(13:16):
did too, But that really freakspeople out when they step on those.
You know, you're not stepping onanything, it's just the shell, you
know. But yeah, that's prettyfunny. Yeah, yeah, they are
kind of cool thoughts. They arelike little aliens. You're right. I
never thought of it like that.Absolutely, that's so funny. That's really
cool. You know. I wasjust thinking when you talked about the snake
(13:37):
skin, that, um, sharkskin, which I would never think,
feels like sam paper. I learnedthat in your book. Yeah. Yeah,
especially there's I forget the particular directionthat you rub it in. It's
it's it's sad, papery and rough. Um. Yeah. Uh. And
the scientists are like their mom uhwetsuits and things off of off of shark
(14:03):
skin to see like if there's waysto improve our own technology using using shark
skin. Interesting, so interesting,So okay, so now um weird but
true sharks. So this just cameout. And where can listeners get it?
Wherever books are sold you can,yeah, wherever books are sold online.
(14:24):
Um, you can often find ourour books in the non fiction kids
section of a bookstore. And wehave these like bright yellow signs and borders,
so they're really easy to see.Um. And if they want more
info about National Geographic Kids. Um, we have games and animal fact sheets
and stuff on our website which iskids dot National Geographic dot com. So
that's easy too. And so whatis next for you now that Sharks is
(14:48):
done? So we've got more weirdbut True in the work always hum.
We haven't run out of stuff yet. I also been working on a really
big version of weir Butrue Weird butTrue World, which is all weird things
around their places from every continent.Um. And yeah, I've got a
(15:11):
bunch of other exciting, exciting thingsin the work. Well excellent, So
that means we'll definitely talk again.But congratulations and thanks for talking about Weird
but True Sharks. Catherine Williams.I will think of you this summer when
I see so many more bugs around. Um, I will think of you
enjoying the bugs. But anyway,thanks for talking about the book today.
(15:33):
I appreciate your time. Thank you. Okay, take care bye.
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