February 18, 2025 • 35 mins
In the second hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan interview the leader of the King Soopers strike to debate whether or not the workers are right to strike and make the demands that they're making.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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of fun fighting for the American way these days. Right,
We're always going to fight, whether it's fun, whether it's not.
(00:20):
But we are on a roll right now, so let
the celebration continue. Want to get back to the phone lines.
We're talking at the end of the last hour with
a gentleman, Dean from Arvada. He tells us that he's
a small business owner and he takes some bridge with
the King superstrike. We had the union president on earlier
to talk about the resolution of the strike, so Dean,
(00:43):
thanks for hanging in there. Then we have a lot
more to get to this hour, including very prominent restaurant
owners in Denver sending a letter to Mayor Mike Johnston
saying the city is falling around a part around us,
the city is falling apart around us, and giving very
graphic examples, and they are right. So how courageous and
how important for them to be speaking truth to power
(01:05):
since bag Dad Mike, you know, just just loves to
stand up there and say all these things that aren't true.
So I want to get into that letter from the
restaurant owners. But Dean, thanks for hanging in there. Man,
please say your piece.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, Phil, just the last couple of things. So I
used to be a union curpenter, and you know, the
union would come out and blah blah blah and all
this that and the other thing, and I never got
any more help. They just want more members to pay
union dues. So now I own two construction companies, one
in Border and one here, and I don't like people.
(01:40):
I'm not a union contractor. I don't want someone from
the outside coming.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Hey, you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You need to hire ten more curpenters do that job
that you know five are doing right now.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Like, well, my.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Overhead's going to go up and I'm gonna make less profit. Well,
King Summer is going to be in the same boat.
If they have to hire a bunch more staff, their
fables are going to go down and your prices are
going to go up. Now, if you don't like the
customer service there, your option is to go somewhere else.
In shop and then then the thankingsomers will say, guess
what we need better STRECS service, so we as we
actually have to hire more people.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's all I got to say, Daan, thanks for having.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, but please stay with us, Please stay with this team,
because I agree as a business owner myself who built
it from the ground up with a lot of great people,
I completely agree with everything you said there in the beginning,
because yeah, you don't want some outside organization coming in
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and forcing you to do things that don't make any
sense just because it benefits that organization. I agree with
you completely. I think the question is whether here that's
what's happening. So the way you look at things, you're
looking at this and saying you believe King Soopers is
not understaffed, and you think the workers are not underpaid,
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et cetera. You may be right in the end. I'm
not sitting here telling you, but I have the facts
to know whether the union is right or wrong in
its claims. Not at all. What I'm relying on is
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't know if they're overpaid or underpaid. They might
be underpaid, that's one thing. They might deserve a pay
increase I'm not arguing at that point.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, But all I'm saying is and I'm just one guy, right,
I'm not calling on public policy or the public to
follow me or anything else. All I'm saying is one
guy who shopped at King Soopers for a lot of
years and really like the people who work there. If
the people who work there decide it's worth walking out
of work, then for me personally, I'm going to go
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buy my peanut butter somewhere else. I'm just talking as
one guy. I can't possibly know who's right or wrong
on the underlying facts. I'm just basing it on that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't either. I mean, all I heard is the
union rep. I don't know the underlyings either, and I'm
not going to point fingers and say all the doings wrong.
But I just think what she said and maybe me
kind of turning me out and like pretty more statlite. No,
you're not the ones running the puff and lost statements
and running the store. You're you're running the union. So
I'm just kind of being the devils auvogate myself.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah, and you know, I'd love to hear from actual
King Supers workers. The reason I supported the strike was
not to support the union. I think unions are like people.
There are good ones, there are bad ones, there are
ones in between. So I didn't support the strike to
support the union. I supported the strike to support the
workers that I come in contact with in King Supers.
But but no, man Hey, really appreciate your perspective and
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hope you call again.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, I'd like talking to you. I mean, you're you're
a great radio host. So I've just listened every day
and ninety nine percent of stuff one hundred percent agree
with Well.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I sure appreciate that. But be sure to call me
when you think I'm wrong, okay, because I may be.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, you like a fight, and I can't call and
fight with you.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It is it is your verbal bites.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I know that.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Thank you, man Hey, really appreciate the kind words. Call
again soon. You take care. Yeah, and I know we
have some text on the strike as well. We were
talking to the union president as I'm sure you picked
up on this text or kind of echoing Dean. As
a small business owner, I have a hard time with
Kim Cordova and unions in general. I think they're doing
an admirable job trying to ensure the hard working people
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at King Soopers aren't being taken advantage of. But it's
tough for all of us. I've been working much harder,
says the Texter, and much more for a third less
pay since twenty twenty one. Nobody is working on my behalf.
I need to do what I need to do to survive,
which I am doing. Miss Corde, who's talking points are
a hollow to a lot of us, Wow, what a
(05:45):
compelling text. So how do you react to that? Right?
I mean the logic there and I had the texture
is one thousand percent correct. There are so many people
working harder in the last few years for less so
that made this texture less sympathetic to workers. It probably
makes some other Texters, I think, more sympathetic to the
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King Soupers workers.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'll give you my only experience working as part of
a union, Dan, and it was interesting because it was
my very first job in broadcasting right out of college.
It was for TV nine to ten in Cadillac Traverse City, Michigan.
And I was sitting down with my boss at the time,
John Michael Carter, and he says, this is the position,
this is what you'll be paid.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
He goes, I might want to pay you more.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I think you're good, but this is what your union's
negotiated for you, and so that's the wage.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
We can't negotiate it.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
So he kind of framed it like, Hey, I'd like
to pay you more, but that's just not in the
cards for you here. I didn't like that that was negotiated.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
On my behalf. I felt like I was my own.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Best advocate, even at that young age, and I still
feel that way now.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I would not want to be a part of a
union here. I know it's different in different professions. Things
like the IBW, I think are tremendous because they're certified
and you know that they're guaranteed quality and the standard
of the work is assured for those that are purchasing it.
But when it comes to King Supers, I described it
this way, Dan, like we were kids either in a
divorce or mom and dad weren't getting along. It wasn't
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our fault as consumers as shoppers there, and I didn't
really want to take sides, like you said, unless I
knew the nitty gritty details, which I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And it's not like I want to take sides.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Against King super Workers, but I don't want to automatically
default to a union position that that might not be
fair either.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And I think for me, the key at least is
that for me, it wasn't a pro union position. It
was a I like the people I've run into at
King Soupers over the last forty years. Sure, and if
they think it's worth going out in the cold in
front of the store and leaving work to do that,
then you know, I'll go shop somewhere else. So that's
just me. But in terms of unions, Ryan, you know,
(07:53):
I don't think I've worked a union job. I supported
United farm Workers Union in Chicago when I would as
a high school kid, I told you be the shill
who would pretend to honor the picket lines at jewels
and stuff like that. I really really was happy that
my dad had the protections he had with the Chicago
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Police Department, and I believe that was through a union.
So I was really glad that he had that, and
I think the police officers needed that From everything I
remember that. I look around right now, and obviously I
have a big problem with those teachers unions that at
this point, you know, obviously put other things ahead of
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the kids. Even though there are a lot of great
people in those unions. The unions themselves, I don't think
the kids are their priority for a lot of these
teachers unions. So yeah, I a King super Strike. I
don't have a broad approach to unions overall. King Superstrike.
It just came down to the people, the people who
work at King Supers, who I've really liked. But as
I've said over and over again, and you know me,
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I don't try to straddle the fence on anything. I
hate that for obvious reasons, especially if you're a male.
But on the King super Strike, I like King Supers.
I like the operation. I like the way they run
their stores. I like the stuff they have on the shelves.
So I like King Supers the company. I know it's Kroger,
but I also like the workers. And I just in
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the end, if hard working people are willing to walk
out that then I'm just going to support them. I
know a lot of people don't agree with that. Texter Dan,
the head of King Soupers, said the exact opposite of
what this union rep is saying. He says there are
not staffing problems or taking money from their retirement plans.
And so who is lying? I think the Union says
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this Texter. For me, I don't know. I don't have
subpoena power. It's not one of my cases. I don't
have the ability to go in and drill down and
get to the bottom of it. For me, it's as
simple as what I just explained eight five five for
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Speaker 4 (10:04):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Do you think Jesse that establishment media figures like Brennan
are laying the groundwork for further speech restrictions under the
guise of preventing harm.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
They tried and failed, and now Trump is gonna usher
in a golden age of free speech in America, whether
the Democrats like it or not. The Nazis abolished free speech.
You weren't even allowed to criticize the Nazi Party. You
couldn't even make a joke about Hitler, and he had
a stupid looking mustache and one testicle.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Plenty of material there.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Books were burned, radio stations were censored, newspapers were shut down.
You actually got put to death in Germany for listening
to the BBC. That happened a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Boy, I'll tell you know who's in a golden age
or phase is Jesse Waters. I mean, he just really
keeps getting better. Don't agree with everything single thing he said,
but boy, and Ryan, it seems like yesterday. You know,
he was the kid just starting at Fox booking for
Bill O'Reilly. I'd get these calls from Jesse and everything else.
(11:18):
But even back then you could tell he had a spark.
But the critical substantive point there is that, Yeah, the
entire left depends on censoring free speech because they can't
win a fair fight. They can't win a fair argument,
and so Trump one of the many lasting gifts from
Donald Trump is defeating this effort to cens for us. Now,
(11:39):
obviously people saw it, which is one of the reasons
they voted for Trump. But yeah, the left cannot win
if there's true free speech and freedom of religion, particularly
if people actually vote their faith. Let's go to the
phone lines. We've had just an explosion of calls and
text surrounding the King superstrike. The end of the strike.
I had the union president on in the last I
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want to get to some really thoughtful, compelling texts, all
of which by the way oddly disagree with me. But
let's start with Holly in Aurora. You're on the Dan
Kaplos Show.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
Welcome Holly, Yeah, Man, thanks. I'm thinking that the Team
Troopers union workers are in a unique situation that like
the caller before and yourself we're talking about, they have
to deal with the public and so when there isn't
(12:32):
enough staff, Yeah, they find themselves hurting for being able
to see what the what the public is doing, mostly
a ka theeft and and shop lifting and that sort
of stuff. When there's not enough staff on the floor there,
(12:55):
it's just harder to see if somebody is trying to
steal things, where if there is some staff available, kids
much easier.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, that's so interesting. And you know, we had a
number of members of the King Supers five who, in
my opinion, were treated so horribly by King Supers after
they stopped that. Robert, thank you Holly for your call.
Let's go to Keith in Denver, Colorado. You're on the
Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome, Hi, Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I had an opportunity to talk to one of the
strikers when they first went out, and he said that
he said two things. One they were fighting for more hours.
And two they were fighting for more security. And one
of the things that King Supers was not allowing them
to do is hire more security guards. So if they
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had one officer in the store, the officers themselves said,
we want a second officer. We don't want to be
here alone. And you know, and I thought, well, those
are fair things to argue for. But my point is,
and this is what my response to him, was, well,
have you voted Democrat because the Democrats undermined all of
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your all the security issues that you're voting because of
the Democrats? Then I said, I said, you wouldn't have
the security problem if you didn't defund the police and
if you didn't constantly basically enable criminal behavior.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
So what a great point.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And when it comes to the and when it comes
to the working hours, I said, these you know, these
stores work on you know, they're operating on two to
three percent margins, like you know, I think it's been
reiterated a thousand times. But they wouldn't they wouldn't let
you work more. They'd let you work more hours if
they if you weren't voting for more and higher wages
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all the time, which is cutting into their bottom line,
I said, this is entirely your fault if you voted Democrat.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
What a great point about the Democrat thing. Hey, thank
you man. Appreciate that call from Keith in Denver. And
that ties into something else. On Thursday Show, we're going
to have John Kellner. He was recently, up until recently,
the elected DA of Arepo, Douglas, Lincoln, and Elbert Counties
and had been the GOP candidate for Attorney General in Colorado.
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John is now my law partner, and he wrote a
very compelling piece that was published in Sunday's Gazette going
to our last caller's point about how the Democrats that
the legislature once again have now given criminals a gift
and have undermined the efforts of local municipalities and towns
to strengthen the penalties against theft, etc. And the lefties
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at the state level are stepping in and saying, no, Aurora,
no you other cities, you can't do that. So you've
got all of these local governments trying to protect their communities,
protect their people by toughening the theft laws and other laws,
and now polis in the left are saying, oh, no,
you can't do that, so it's so wrong, but it
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ties into the last caller's point. And John Kellner will
be with us Thursday. He'd be with us tomorrow, except
tomorrow is this annual father daughter thing the Caroline and Caroline,
our daughter and I do together every year and been
looking forward to it all year. We'll be doing that
together and Christy Burton Brown will have the show tomorrow.
I want to get to some of these texts as well.
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Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
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Texter says DAN, unions have outlived their purpose. In the beginning,
it was about worker safety and forty hour weeks all achieved.
Safety is now the purview of OSHA. Now unions are
nothing more than democratic money machines based on outdated ideas Texter.
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And by the way, that text is echoed by many others, Dan,
I was in the restaurant industry for fifty years. People
don't work harder today, not compared to the sixties, seventies
and eighties. Would love your thoughts on that. And obviously
you know different people, different stuff, But what do you think, Brian,
in general? People working harder now or harder ten years ago.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Well, I know that people are working for less now
in terms of the spending power, the buying power of
the dollar and what you're earning and how that measures
up against the consumer price indexes et cetera. As far
as it's hard to gauge you know, what craft you're in,
what line of work you're in.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm sure there are a lot of people are listening.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Audience right now that would say they work very hard
or just as hard as they did that amount of
time ago. But general work ethic, Dan I would say this,
I think a lot of younger people coming into the
workforce have a lot more in terms of entitlement and
expectations about what they're going to get rather than what
they're going to contribute and how they're going to earn it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Kind of the old JFK thing. What are you willing
to do?
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You know, as not what your country will do for you,
but what you will do for your country. I think
it applies to your endeavors in the workplace. Are you
willing to work hard, to excel, to achieve and to
be excellent? And I don't know if there's that amount
of dry that maybe we saw that time ago.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Now, Ryan, are you saying ask not what King Soopers
will do for you, to ask what you will do
for King Supers.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Well, I think that's the whole point of this conversation
that you had with Kim Kordova. And I'm not saying
I disagree with everything she says. I generally am very
hesitant to support unions because I wanted to negotiate on
my own behalf. But you're right, I think there's there's
something to be said on both sides of that one.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, and when we come back, we've got more calls
and text on the King super Strike will take those.
We have much more to talk about as well, locally
and nationally, and have to comment on this pivotal moment
in Ukraine. You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Ukrainians and the Europeans suggested that they go very sidelined
without the process has laid out so far.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
How you intentionally address their concerns equality?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, the comment I would have on that is that
for three and a half years while this conflict is raged,
or three years while it is raged, no one else
has been able to bring something together like what we
saw today, because Donald Trump is the only leader in.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The world it can. So no one is being sidelined here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
But President Trump is in a position that he campaigned
on to initiate a process that could bring about an
end of this conflict, and from that could emerge some
very positive things for the United States, for Europe, for Ukraine,
for the world. But first it begins by the end
of this conflict.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Oh, beautifully said by Rubio. Yeah, all this griping now
from Europe. Yeah, where was Europe for the last three years?
Because this should tick you off, It should take everybody off,
because Putin is evil. Putin is evil. And you know,
Trump is doing a tremendous service to the world right now.
He's doing the best he can with this horrific situation,
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which is not of his making. This horror, this horror,
this unleashing of raw evil in the form of Putin,
was brought to you by so Biden and the Left
and their weakness and their weakness in Afghanistan and their
weakness with Putin. Trump is just stopping the bleeding. But
my goodness, the way Europe abandoned Ukraine. Putin knew from
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day one right, Putin is looking through the lens of evil,
and so morality doesn't factor in. Nothing factors and accept
evil devouring, evil, raping, evil, pillaging. And Putin looked at
Europe and he sized Europe is weak. He sized Biden
is weak. And he went and he devoured and he
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sized them upright. So Europe, as someone earlier today said,
you know, Ukraine needed warriors, and they got cheerleaders. Right,
the brave people of Ukraine fought valiantly, historically brave. But
what did Europe give them, you know, just applause and
cheers and a little bit of money. Putin knew from
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day one. If Europe would not put boots on the ground,
Putin would get whatever he wanted. And Europe would not
put boots in the ground. There should never be an
American boot on the ground in Ukraine. That was Europe's fight.
America should support it financially in ways it makes sense
because it serves the world to stop evil in the
form of Putin. But it was Europe's fight. They wouldn't
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do it, they wouldn't put boots on the ground. So
Putin was destined to win. And now what Trump's doing
is serving the world by just stopping the madness and
to the extent listen, to the extent he had kind
of good relations with Putin, that then further America's interest
and prevent further wars. Then yeah, sure, don't compromise our values,
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don't compromise our principles. But what do you want to
do with that sort of wild animal who threatens the
peace and stability of the world. If you contame him,
if you can bring him under control, then you want
to do that. If you can, you don't just want
to run off to war. You want to end wars
where you can. So, yeah, Europe abandoned Ukraine, so evil
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now wins to a certain extent, and Trump heroically now
will stop the bloodshed eight five five or zero five
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three nine. You know, it's like somebody said earlier, Ryan,
I think it was Mike Waltz, the National Security advisor.
He said, before Trump was elected, everybody was just talking
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about is there a way to end the war? Now
that Trump's been elected, everybody's talking about when the war
will end because they know Trump's about to end it.
Have we seen in our lifetime? In our lifetime an
individual have is immediate and dramatic effect for the good
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on the world. Obviously, John Kennedy probably saved America in
the world in the Cuban missile crisis. You know, Ronald
Reagan did a great service or peace for strength. But
in terms of one individual this kind of impact, I
don't think we've seen that in our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
If I may present Dan to you, Woodrow Wilson, we
won't go down that road yet. Good, but apostulate from
a guy that I respect in this industry but is
a liberal and is comparing what's going on right now
with the bilateral talks that the United States, Marco Rubio,
Mike Waltz and others are having with.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Fidermir Putin in Russia.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Comparing that to Neville Chamberlain and Great Britain trying to
negotiate a piece with Adolph Hitler before he invaded Czechoslovakia
and Poland.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What would you say about that comparison?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Total bs, total, totally false. But that's what we get
from the left right. That's why they want to silence
free speech because they lie all the time, and if
people are free to point out that they're lying, the
left loses utter garbage. Trump comes to the table with
consummate strength, consummate strength, and Putin knows that if Trump
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came in whole hog on the side of Ukraine right now,
it ends one of two ways, either Russia losing or
a nuclear war. So Trump comes to the table with strength,
right and there's not going to be any appeasement whatsoever here.
What there's going to be is a practical recognition of
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what the weakness of the left and the weakness of
European leadership has wrought. And there's going to be a
practical recognition of that that the choice now is World
War III or cut a deal that maintains Ukraine's sovereignty,
keeps its government intact, and ends the bloodshed. That seems
like a pretty easy choice, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
It does.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
And my counter to that, for my friend online would be, Okay,
what does victory look like? To find that and describe that,
you can't get the left or one of these Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Hawks to answer that question.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
And then secondly, as a means of achieving that end,
are you willing to put American forces boots on the
ground in Ukraine to help win that war?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You got to answer that one way or the other.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, and of course they wouldn't be. But this just
goes back, right, This just goes back to the Trump
derangement syndrome. And how now it is shortening the lifespan
of the left because the people look at all this
success from Trump and they look at increasing lunacy and
irrationality from the left and guess which direction more people
(25:29):
are moving. You don't have to guess, just look at
the poles. And now it's just up to the rest
of the GOP to get it right. But I think
the rest of the GOP is doing a pretty good
job with that. Now we have to see if Colorado
can start to turn right. And I know they'll be
the subject of other shows and other guests, but I
want to get to some of these great texts. And
(25:50):
isn't this going to be one of the great moments
ever when the left to has to watch Donald Trump
get the Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, now, who knows.
If he doesn't get it, it's just a total farce.
But he's been subjected to those total farce as many
times before. But if he does get it, which he should, yeah,
that'll be a very fun moment. First of all, because
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there will be this. I don't know if you'll be
able to call what's coming peace or just cessation of war,
but whatever it is, it'll be far better than what
we have right now, Dan your guest. And this goes
back to the King super strike issue that we've been
talking about. We have the union president on talking about
the conclusion of it. Dan your guest said, most of
our members are part time. Oh you mean they aren't
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the bread winner in the home. They need to stop
demanding higher wages and benefits on a part time job.
I think the Texter probably misunderstands. I think there are
probably a lot of people who want to be full time,
but the only jobs they can get are part time.
There are some really compelling Texters who disagree with me here.
(26:55):
Let me get to one longer than we like, but
it's so well done. I'm afraid you're looking at this
whole King super Strike through your rose colored Chicago Democrat
big labor glasses. Labor unions have long outlived their usefulness
and now are just a tool to extract more from
businesses that are already tight. Nobody is holding a gun
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to these people's heads to make them work. There. If
I have a job and don't like the work environment,
I can go talk to my supervisor, and he talked
to his supervisor to either get it resolved or I leave.
We're not in the days of Upton Sinclair the Jungle
meat packing businesses, where businesses were giving away with just
about it, getting away with just about anything. There are
already way too many restrictions and controls in place for labor,
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with OSHA and the Labor Relations Board. My guess is Ryan,
probably about ninety nine percent of our audience agrees whole
hog upunintended with that. Texter and De Texter appreciate that. Dan.
Two questions for your guest. Is it appropriate or inappropriate
for strikers to stand right in front of the doors?
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Is it appropriate or inappropriate for a striker to tell
me to shop elsewhere? Ryan, what do you think I
honored the King super strike, as I've mentioned on air,
because I've always liked the people who worked there, and
if they were going to strike, I'll go shop somewhere else.
I wasn't doing it to support the union. I wasn't
doing it because I decided King Soupers was wrong. I
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was doing it because I liked the people who worked there.
But I went to a liquor store next to my
local King superstore, and I did notice that the strikers
were lined up right in front of the store, right
in front of the store entrance. And I also noticed
there were almost no cars in the parking lot. So
how do you feel about folks who are picketing lined
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up right in front of the entrance.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
They got a little belligerent with Kelsey, and I wasn't
a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And that was kel No, my fiance, Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Oh, your fiance. Nobody would be ware.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
There was a woman who did that much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They brought out a security guard. I'm going to try
to keep this short because I know we got to
go to break.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Do you want to do it in the next segment?
I could sum it up the secure Kelsey story people.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
The security guard told me that he simply explained to
the strikers that you know, you can pick it outside,
but don't try to intimidate or yell at the customers
coming in. And by the same token, I'm going to
make sure that I protect you from any customers that
might be harassing you. And he said that that had
been happening and reversed. There's some shoppers are on the
way in yelling at the strikers. I just think tempers
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were short, that's to be sure.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Hey, when we come back, lots more to talk about.
Want to preview a really important story for tomorrow here
on The Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to entuct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it, and you
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know that that the censorship.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I disagree with you specifically about the right. Now, I
have to disagree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Boy.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I'll tell you that is one of the top five
stupidest things ever said on television anywhere right. And Margaret
Brennan is not a stupid person. She has a lot
of bad ideas, bad leftist ideas, but she's intellectually very gifted.
So why would somebody smart say something that's stupid that
it was free speech that caused the Holocaust? Of course
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it was not. But the reason she said that is
because the left is they're saying the quiet part out loud. Now,
the left knows that free speech means the end of
the left. That's why they've worked so hard to end
free speech in America. Cancel culture. If you speak an
opinion they don't like, You're a racist, you're a bigot,
(31:02):
you're a sexist. You have to be canceled, driven from
normal society because the left knows if people are free
to speak the truth, the left loses. And now they
are driven to this absurdity. Oh, it was free speech
that caused the Holocaust. So the encouragement in that is
that one of the great lasting gifts of the Trump
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victories is the preservation of free speech in America. And
as long as we have it, the left will lose.
And she's just now displaying it for all to see.
That is their platform. Free speech equals evil unless it's
their free speech. Hey, let's go to the phone lines.
Welcome Kathy to the Dan Kaplis Show. Hey, Kathy, Oh,
(31:46):
she just dropped. I hope she's okay. Technical term dropped, right.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
She called nine one one, did not physically drop that
I could call her Paul drop from the phone unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Good, excellent, excellent. Let's get back to our texters here Dan,
with the last couple of hours, Trump said Ukraine should
never have started the war with all the great work
coming from this administration. This is a black mark, extremely ignorant,
and a complete embarrassment. And I am a DJT supporter.
I saw that text come in during the break. I'm
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checking the news feeds. I never take what a CNN
or NBC report as true. The initial reporting appears to
be that President Trump did say something along those lines.
It was more in the context of firing back at Zelensky,
who was criticizing President Trump today, which is really bizarre, right,
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But it was more in that context. So I am
very very confident that President Trump does not perceive Ukraine
as starting this war, and that if he made some
comments on the fly that came across that way, that
those will be clarified. And again, I think Trump deserves
a lot of credit for soon ending the bloodshed, because
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it's not Trump Trump's fault that Putin, who is Satan
on Earth, went into rape and pillage Ukraine. That's Biden's fault.
It's the left's fault. Putin did not go into Ukraine
when Trump was president. He went in when Obama was president,
he went in. When Biden was president, he didn't go
in when Trump was president. If Trump had that second term,
then Putin would not have gone into Ukraine. I think
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any honest person would have to admit that. So Trump
deserves none of the blame for its starting. He deserves
the credit for it ending because, as one of his
people said earlier today, before Trump was elected, people were
talking about is there a way to solve the war?
Now because of Trump, they're talking about when it will end,
because it's certain now it will end. Why because of Trump?
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So yes, if he made a comment in anger when
he was responding to Zelensky's bizarre criticism, then yeah that
I'm sure he will clarify that over the next few days.
There is no question that this war was completely unnecessary.
It was invited by Biden's weakness and the Left's weakness.
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But the cause of it is the evil of Vladimir
Putin and Europe being unwilling to step up and put
boots on the ground in Ukraine. And I didn't want
World War three, obviously, but if Europe was not willing
to put boots on the ground in Ukraine, and there
should never be American boots there. Then Putin was destined
to win. The only way to stop Putin was Europe
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putting boots on the ground. The people of Ukraine fought
heroically and bravely, beyond all measure, but they were not
going to be able to defeat Russia without Europe being
willing to put boots on the ground. And hopefully Europe
being willing to put boots on the ground would have
deterred Putin, but Putin saw it clearly early. Biden was
pathetically weak. European leaders, pathetically weak and evil took advantage
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of that. Thank god, Trump's going to stop the bloodshed now. Ryan,
great job, Kelly, you as well. Great to have you back.
Kelly and Christy Burton Brown in the house tomorrow. Thanks
for being here today on The Dan Caplis Show.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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We're always going to fight, whether it's fun, whether it's not.
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But we are on a roll right now, so let
the celebration continue. Want to get back to the phone lines.
We're talking at the end of the last hour with
a gentleman, Dean from Arvada. He tells us that he's
a small business owner and he takes some bridge with
the King superstrike. We had the union president on earlier
to talk about the resolution of the strike, so Dean,
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thanks for hanging in there. Then we have a lot
more to get to this hour, including very prominent restaurant
owners in Denver sending a letter to Mayor Mike Johnston
saying the city is falling around a part around us,
the city is falling apart around us, and giving very
graphic examples, and they are right. So how courageous and
how important for them to be speaking truth to power
(01:05):
since bag Dad Mike, you know, just just loves to
stand up there and say all these things that aren't true.
So I want to get into that letter from the
restaurant owners. But Dean, thanks for hanging in there. Man,
please say your piece.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, Phil, just the last couple of things. So I
used to be a union curpenter, and you know, the
union would come out and blah blah blah and all
this that and the other thing, and I never got
any more help. They just want more members to pay
union dues. So now I own two construction companies, one
in Border and one here, and I don't like people.
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I'm not a union contractor. I don't want someone from
the outside coming.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Hey, you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You need to hire ten more curpenters do that job
that you know five are doing right now.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Like, well, my.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Overhead's going to go up and I'm gonna make less profit. Well,
King Summer is going to be in the same boat.
If they have to hire a bunch more staff, their
fables are going to go down and your prices are
going to go up. Now, if you don't like the
customer service there, your option is to go somewhere else.
In shop and then then the thankingsomers will say, guess
what we need better STRECS service, so we as we
actually have to hire more people.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's all I got to say, Daan, thanks for having.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, but please stay with us, Please stay with this team,
because I agree as a business owner myself who built
it from the ground up with a lot of great people,
I completely agree with everything you said there in the beginning,
because yeah, you don't want some outside organization coming in
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and forcing you to do things that don't make any
sense just because it benefits that organization. I agree with
you completely. I think the question is whether here that's
what's happening. So the way you look at things, you're
looking at this and saying you believe King Soopers is
not understaffed, and you think the workers are not underpaid,
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et cetera. You may be right in the end. I'm
not sitting here telling you, but I have the facts
to know whether the union is right or wrong in
its claims. Not at all. What I'm relying on is
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't know if they're overpaid or underpaid. They might
be underpaid, that's one thing. They might deserve a pay
increase I'm not arguing at that point.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, But all I'm saying is and I'm just one guy, right,
I'm not calling on public policy or the public to
follow me or anything else. All I'm saying is one
guy who shopped at King Soopers for a lot of
years and really like the people who work there. If
the people who work there decide it's worth walking out
of work, then for me personally, I'm going to go
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buy my peanut butter somewhere else. I'm just talking as
one guy. I can't possibly know who's right or wrong
on the underlying facts. I'm just basing it on that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't either. I mean, all I heard is the
union rep. I don't know the underlyings either, and I'm
not going to point fingers and say all the doings wrong.
But I just think what she said and maybe me
kind of turning me out and like pretty more statlite. No,
you're not the ones running the puff and lost statements
and running the store. You're you're running the union. So
I'm just kind of being the devils auvogate myself.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah, and you know, I'd love to hear from actual
King Supers workers. The reason I supported the strike was
not to support the union. I think unions are like people.
There are good ones, there are bad ones, there are
ones in between. So I didn't support the strike to
support the union. I supported the strike to support the
workers that I come in contact with in King Supers.
But but no, man Hey, really appreciate your perspective and
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hope you call again.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, I'd like talking to you. I mean, you're you're
a great radio host. So I've just listened every day
and ninety nine percent of stuff one hundred percent agree
with Well.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I sure appreciate that. But be sure to call me
when you think I'm wrong, okay, because I may be.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, you like a fight, and I can't call and
fight with you.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It is it is your verbal bites.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I know that.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Thank you, man Hey, really appreciate the kind words. Call
again soon. You take care. Yeah, and I know we
have some text on the strike as well. We were
talking to the union president as I'm sure you picked
up on this text or kind of echoing Dean. As
a small business owner, I have a hard time with
Kim Cordova and unions in general. I think they're doing
an admirable job trying to ensure the hard working people
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at King Soopers aren't being taken advantage of. But it's
tough for all of us. I've been working much harder,
says the Texter, and much more for a third less
pay since twenty twenty one. Nobody is working on my behalf.
I need to do what I need to do to survive,
which I am doing. Miss Corde, who's talking points are
a hollow to a lot of us, Wow, what a
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compelling text. So how do you react to that? Right?
I mean the logic there and I had the texture
is one thousand percent correct. There are so many people
working harder in the last few years for less so
that made this texture less sympathetic to workers. It probably
makes some other Texters, I think, more sympathetic to the
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King Soupers workers.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'll give you my only experience working as part of
a union, Dan, and it was interesting because it was
my very first job in broadcasting right out of college.
It was for TV nine to ten in Cadillac Traverse City, Michigan.
And I was sitting down with my boss at the time,
John Michael Carter, and he says, this is the position,
this is what you'll be paid.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
He goes, I might want to pay you more.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I think you're good, but this is what your union's
negotiated for you, and so that's the wage.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
We can't negotiate it.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
So he kind of framed it like, Hey, I'd like
to pay you more, but that's just not in the
cards for you here. I didn't like that that was negotiated.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
On my behalf. I felt like I was my own.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Best advocate, even at that young age, and I still
feel that way now.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I would not want to be a part of a
union here. I know it's different in different professions. Things
like the IBW, I think are tremendous because they're certified
and you know that they're guaranteed quality and the standard
of the work is assured for those that are purchasing it.
But when it comes to King Supers, I described it
this way, Dan, like we were kids either in a
divorce or mom and dad weren't getting along. It wasn't
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our fault as consumers as shoppers there, and I didn't
really want to take sides, like you said, unless I
knew the nitty gritty details, which I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And it's not like I want to take sides.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Against King super Workers, but I don't want to automatically
default to a union position that that might not be
fair either.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And I think for me, the key at least is
that for me, it wasn't a pro union position. It
was a I like the people I've run into at
King Soupers over the last forty years. Sure, and if
they think it's worth going out in the cold in
front of the store and leaving work to do that,
then you know, I'll go shop somewhere else. So that's
just me. But in terms of unions, Ryan, you know,
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I don't think I've worked a union job. I supported
United farm Workers Union in Chicago when I would as
a high school kid, I told you be the shill
who would pretend to honor the picket lines at jewels
and stuff like that. I really really was happy that
my dad had the protections he had with the Chicago
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Police Department, and I believe that was through a union.
So I was really glad that he had that, and
I think the police officers needed that From everything I
remember that. I look around right now, and obviously I
have a big problem with those teachers unions that at
this point, you know, obviously put other things ahead of
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the kids. Even though there are a lot of great
people in those unions. The unions themselves, I don't think
the kids are their priority for a lot of these
teachers unions. So yeah, I a King super Strike. I
don't have a broad approach to unions overall. King Superstrike.
It just came down to the people, the people who
work at King Supers, who I've really liked. But as
I've said over and over again, and you know me,
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I don't try to straddle the fence on anything. I
hate that for obvious reasons, especially if you're a male.
But on the King super Strike, I like King Supers.
I like the operation. I like the way they run
their stores. I like the stuff they have on the shelves.
So I like King Supers the company. I know it's Kroger,
but I also like the workers. And I just in
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the end, if hard working people are willing to walk
out that then I'm just going to support them. I
know a lot of people don't agree with that. Texter Dan,
the head of King Soupers, said the exact opposite of
what this union rep is saying. He says there are
not staffing problems or taking money from their retirement plans.
And so who is lying? I think the Union says
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this Texter. For me, I don't know. I don't have
subpoena power. It's not one of my cases. I don't
have the ability to go in and drill down and
get to the bottom of it. For me, it's as
simple as what I just explained eight five five for
zero five eight two five five text d an five
seven seven three nine.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Do you think Jesse that establishment media figures like Brennan
are laying the groundwork for further speech restrictions under the
guise of preventing harm.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
They tried and failed, and now Trump is gonna usher
in a golden age of free speech in America, whether
the Democrats like it or not. The Nazis abolished free speech.
You weren't even allowed to criticize the Nazi Party. You
couldn't even make a joke about Hitler, and he had
a stupid looking mustache and one testicle.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Plenty of material there.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Books were burned, radio stations were censored, newspapers were shut down.
You actually got put to death in Germany for listening
to the BBC. That happened a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Boy, I'll tell you know who's in a golden age
or phase is Jesse Waters. I mean, he just really
keeps getting better. Don't agree with everything single thing he said,
but boy, and Ryan, it seems like yesterday. You know,
he was the kid just starting at Fox booking for
Bill O'Reilly. I'd get these calls from Jesse and everything else.
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But even back then you could tell he had a spark.
But the critical substantive point there is that, Yeah, the
entire left depends on censoring free speech because they can't
win a fair fight. They can't win a fair argument,
and so Trump one of the many lasting gifts from
Donald Trump is defeating this effort to cens for us. Now,
(11:39):
obviously people saw it, which is one of the reasons
they voted for Trump. But yeah, the left cannot win
if there's true free speech and freedom of religion, particularly
if people actually vote their faith. Let's go to the
phone lines. We've had just an explosion of calls and
text surrounding the King superstrike. The end of the strike.
I had the union president on in the last I
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want to get to some really thoughtful, compelling texts, all
of which by the way oddly disagree with me. But
let's start with Holly in Aurora. You're on the Dan
Kaplos Show.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
Welcome Holly, Yeah, Man, thanks. I'm thinking that the Team
Troopers union workers are in a unique situation that like
the caller before and yourself we're talking about, they have
to deal with the public and so when there isn't
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enough staff, Yeah, they find themselves hurting for being able
to see what the what the public is doing, mostly
a ka theeft and and shop lifting and that sort
of stuff. When there's not enough staff on the floor there,
(12:55):
it's just harder to see if somebody is trying to
steal things, where if there is some staff available, kids
much easier.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, that's so interesting. And you know, we had a
number of members of the King Supers five who, in
my opinion, were treated so horribly by King Supers after
they stopped that. Robert, thank you Holly for your call.
Let's go to Keith in Denver, Colorado. You're on the
Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome, Hi, Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I had an opportunity to talk to one of the
strikers when they first went out, and he said that
he said two things. One they were fighting for more hours.
And two they were fighting for more security. And one
of the things that King Supers was not allowing them
to do is hire more security guards. So if they
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had one officer in the store, the officers themselves said,
we want a second officer. We don't want to be
here alone. And you know, and I thought, well, those
are fair things to argue for. But my point is,
and this is what my response to him, was, well,
have you voted Democrat because the Democrats undermined all of
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your all the security issues that you're voting because of
the Democrats? Then I said, I said, you wouldn't have
the security problem if you didn't defund the police and
if you didn't constantly basically enable criminal behavior.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
So what a great point.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And when it comes to the and when it comes
to the working hours, I said, these you know, these
stores work on you know, they're operating on two to
three percent margins, like you know, I think it's been
reiterated a thousand times. But they wouldn't they wouldn't let
you work more. They'd let you work more hours if
they if you weren't voting for more and higher wages
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all the time, which is cutting into their bottom line,
I said, this is entirely your fault if you voted Democrat.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
What a great point about the Democrat thing. Hey, thank
you man. Appreciate that call from Keith in Denver. And
that ties into something else. On Thursday Show, we're going
to have John Kellner. He was recently, up until recently,
the elected DA of Arepo, Douglas, Lincoln, and Elbert Counties
and had been the GOP candidate for Attorney General in Colorado.
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John is now my law partner, and he wrote a
very compelling piece that was published in Sunday's Gazette going
to our last caller's point about how the Democrats that
the legislature once again have now given criminals a gift
and have undermined the efforts of local municipalities and towns
to strengthen the penalties against theft, etc. And the lefties
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at the state level are stepping in and saying, no, Aurora,
no you other cities, you can't do that. So you've
got all of these local governments trying to protect their communities,
protect their people by toughening the theft laws and other laws,
and now polis in the left are saying, oh, no,
you can't do that, so it's so wrong, but it
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ties into the last caller's point. And John Kellner will
be with us Thursday. He'd be with us tomorrow, except
tomorrow is this annual father daughter thing the Caroline and Caroline,
our daughter and I do together every year and been
looking forward to it all year. We'll be doing that
together and Christy Burton Brown will have the show tomorrow.
I want to get to some of these texts as well.
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Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
the phone text d An five seven seven three nine.
Texter says DAN, unions have outlived their purpose. In the beginning,
it was about worker safety and forty hour weeks all achieved.
Safety is now the purview of OSHA. Now unions are
nothing more than democratic money machines based on outdated ideas Texter.
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And by the way, that text is echoed by many others, Dan,
I was in the restaurant industry for fifty years. People
don't work harder today, not compared to the sixties, seventies
and eighties. Would love your thoughts on that. And obviously
you know different people, different stuff, But what do you think, Brian,
in general? People working harder now or harder ten years ago.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Well, I know that people are working for less now
in terms of the spending power, the buying power of
the dollar and what you're earning and how that measures
up against the consumer price indexes et cetera. As far
as it's hard to gauge you know, what craft you're in,
what line of work you're in.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm sure there are a lot of people are listening.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Audience right now that would say they work very hard
or just as hard as they did that amount of
time ago. But general work ethic, Dan I would say this,
I think a lot of younger people coming into the
workforce have a lot more in terms of entitlement and
expectations about what they're going to get rather than what
they're going to contribute and how they're going to earn it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Kind of the old JFK thing. What are you willing
to do?
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You know, as not what your country will do for you,
but what you will do for your country. I think
it applies to your endeavors in the workplace. Are you
willing to work hard, to excel, to achieve and to
be excellent? And I don't know if there's that amount
of dry that maybe we saw that time ago.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Now, Ryan, are you saying ask not what King Soopers
will do for you, to ask what you will do
for King Supers.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Well, I think that's the whole point of this conversation
that you had with Kim Kordova. And I'm not saying
I disagree with everything she says. I generally am very
hesitant to support unions because I wanted to negotiate on
my own behalf. But you're right, I think there's there's
something to be said on both sides of that one.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, and when we come back, we've got more calls
and text on the King super Strike will take those.
We have much more to talk about as well, locally
and nationally, and have to comment on this pivotal moment
in Ukraine. You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Ukrainians and the Europeans suggested that they go very sidelined
without the process has laid out so far.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
How you intentionally address their concerns equality?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, the comment I would have on that is that
for three and a half years while this conflict is raged,
or three years while it is raged, no one else
has been able to bring something together like what we
saw today, because Donald Trump is the only leader in.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The world it can. So no one is being sidelined here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
But President Trump is in a position that he campaigned
on to initiate a process that could bring about an
end of this conflict, and from that could emerge some
very positive things for the United States, for Europe, for Ukraine,
for the world. But first it begins by the end
of this conflict.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Oh, beautifully said by Rubio. Yeah, all this griping now
from Europe. Yeah, where was Europe for the last three years?
Because this should tick you off, It should take everybody off,
because Putin is evil. Putin is evil. And you know,
Trump is doing a tremendous service to the world right now.
He's doing the best he can with this horrific situation,
(19:51):
which is not of his making. This horror, this horror,
this unleashing of raw evil in the form of Putin,
was brought to you by so Biden and the Left
and their weakness and their weakness in Afghanistan and their
weakness with Putin. Trump is just stopping the bleeding. But
my goodness, the way Europe abandoned Ukraine. Putin knew from
(20:14):
day one right, Putin is looking through the lens of evil,
and so morality doesn't factor in. Nothing factors and accept
evil devouring, evil, raping, evil, pillaging. And Putin looked at
Europe and he sized Europe is weak. He sized Biden
is weak. And he went and he devoured and he
(20:35):
sized them upright. So Europe, as someone earlier today said,
you know, Ukraine needed warriors, and they got cheerleaders. Right,
the brave people of Ukraine fought valiantly, historically brave. But
what did Europe give them, you know, just applause and
cheers and a little bit of money. Putin knew from
(20:56):
day one. If Europe would not put boots on the ground,
Putin would get whatever he wanted. And Europe would not
put boots in the ground. There should never be an
American boot on the ground in Ukraine. That was Europe's fight.
America should support it financially in ways it makes sense
because it serves the world to stop evil in the
form of Putin. But it was Europe's fight. They wouldn't
(21:20):
do it, they wouldn't put boots on the ground. So
Putin was destined to win. And now what Trump's doing
is serving the world by just stopping the madness and
to the extent listen, to the extent he had kind
of good relations with Putin, that then further America's interest
and prevent further wars. Then yeah, sure, don't compromise our values,
(21:43):
don't compromise our principles. But what do you want to
do with that sort of wild animal who threatens the
peace and stability of the world. If you contame him,
if you can bring him under control, then you want
to do that. If you can, you don't just want
to run off to war. You want to end wars
where you can. So, yeah, Europe abandoned Ukraine, so evil
(22:07):
now wins to a certain extent, and Trump heroically now
will stop the bloodshed eight five five or zero five
A two five five text d an five seven seven
three nine. You know, it's like somebody said earlier, Ryan,
I think it was Mike Waltz, the National Security advisor.
He said, before Trump was elected, everybody was just talking
(22:29):
about is there a way to end the war? Now
that Trump's been elected, everybody's talking about when the war
will end because they know Trump's about to end it.
Have we seen in our lifetime? In our lifetime an
individual have is immediate and dramatic effect for the good
(22:49):
on the world. Obviously, John Kennedy probably saved America in
the world in the Cuban missile crisis. You know, Ronald
Reagan did a great service or peace for strength. But
in terms of one individual this kind of impact, I
don't think we've seen that in our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
If I may present Dan to you, Woodrow Wilson, we
won't go down that road yet. Good, but apostulate from
a guy that I respect in this industry but is
a liberal and is comparing what's going on right now
with the bilateral talks that the United States, Marco Rubio,
Mike Waltz and others are having with.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Fidermir Putin in Russia.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Comparing that to Neville Chamberlain and Great Britain trying to
negotiate a piece with Adolph Hitler before he invaded Czechoslovakia
and Poland.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What would you say about that comparison?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Total bs, total, totally false. But that's what we get
from the left right. That's why they want to silence
free speech because they lie all the time, and if
people are free to point out that they're lying, the
left loses utter garbage. Trump comes to the table with
consummate strength, consummate strength, and Putin knows that if Trump
(24:01):
came in whole hog on the side of Ukraine right now,
it ends one of two ways, either Russia losing or
a nuclear war. So Trump comes to the table with strength,
right and there's not going to be any appeasement whatsoever here.
What there's going to be is a practical recognition of
(24:21):
what the weakness of the left and the weakness of
European leadership has wrought. And there's going to be a
practical recognition of that that the choice now is World
War III or cut a deal that maintains Ukraine's sovereignty,
keeps its government intact, and ends the bloodshed. That seems
like a pretty easy choice, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
It does.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
And my counter to that, for my friend online would be, Okay,
what does victory look like? To find that and describe that,
you can't get the left or one of these Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Hawks to answer that question.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
And then secondly, as a means of achieving that end,
are you willing to put American forces boots on the
ground in Ukraine to help win that war?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You got to answer that one way or the other.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, and of course they wouldn't be. But this just
goes back, right, This just goes back to the Trump
derangement syndrome. And how now it is shortening the lifespan
of the left because the people look at all this
success from Trump and they look at increasing lunacy and
irrationality from the left and guess which direction more people
(25:29):
are moving. You don't have to guess, just look at
the poles. And now it's just up to the rest
of the GOP to get it right. But I think
the rest of the GOP is doing a pretty good
job with that. Now we have to see if Colorado
can start to turn right. And I know they'll be
the subject of other shows and other guests, but I
want to get to some of these great texts. And
(25:50):
isn't this going to be one of the great moments
ever when the left to has to watch Donald Trump
get the Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, now, who knows.
If he doesn't get it, it's just a total farce.
But he's been subjected to those total farce as many
times before. But if he does get it, which he should, yeah,
that'll be a very fun moment. First of all, because
(26:13):
there will be this. I don't know if you'll be
able to call what's coming peace or just cessation of war,
but whatever it is, it'll be far better than what
we have right now, Dan your guest. And this goes
back to the King super strike issue that we've been
talking about. We have the union president on talking about
the conclusion of it. Dan your guest said, most of
our members are part time. Oh you mean they aren't
(26:35):
the bread winner in the home. They need to stop
demanding higher wages and benefits on a part time job.
I think the Texter probably misunderstands. I think there are
probably a lot of people who want to be full time,
but the only jobs they can get are part time.
There are some really compelling Texters who disagree with me here.
(26:55):
Let me get to one longer than we like, but
it's so well done. I'm afraid you're looking at this
whole King super Strike through your rose colored Chicago Democrat
big labor glasses. Labor unions have long outlived their usefulness
and now are just a tool to extract more from
businesses that are already tight. Nobody is holding a gun
(27:15):
to these people's heads to make them work. There. If
I have a job and don't like the work environment,
I can go talk to my supervisor, and he talked
to his supervisor to either get it resolved or I leave.
We're not in the days of Upton Sinclair the Jungle
meat packing businesses, where businesses were giving away with just
about it, getting away with just about anything. There are
already way too many restrictions and controls in place for labor,
(27:39):
with OSHA and the Labor Relations Board. My guess is Ryan,
probably about ninety nine percent of our audience agrees whole
hog upunintended with that. Texter and De Texter appreciate that. Dan.
Two questions for your guest. Is it appropriate or inappropriate
for strikers to stand right in front of the doors?
(28:01):
Is it appropriate or inappropriate for a striker to tell
me to shop elsewhere? Ryan, what do you think I
honored the King super strike, as I've mentioned on air,
because I've always liked the people who worked there, and
if they were going to strike, I'll go shop somewhere else.
I wasn't doing it to support the union. I wasn't
doing it because I decided King Soupers was wrong. I
(28:23):
was doing it because I liked the people who worked there.
But I went to a liquor store next to my
local King superstore, and I did notice that the strikers
were lined up right in front of the store, right
in front of the store entrance. And I also noticed
there were almost no cars in the parking lot. So
how do you feel about folks who are picketing lined
(28:45):
up right in front of the entrance.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
They got a little belligerent with Kelsey, and I wasn't
a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And that was kel No, my fiance, Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Oh, your fiance. Nobody would be ware.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
There was a woman who did that much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They brought out a security guard. I'm going to try
to keep this short because I know we got to
go to break.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Do you want to do it in the next segment?
I could sum it up the secure Kelsey story people.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
The security guard told me that he simply explained to
the strikers that you know, you can pick it outside,
but don't try to intimidate or yell at the customers
coming in. And by the same token, I'm going to
make sure that I protect you from any customers that
might be harassing you. And he said that that had
been happening and reversed. There's some shoppers are on the
way in yelling at the strikers. I just think tempers
(29:30):
were short, that's to be sure.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Hey, when we come back, lots more to talk about.
Want to preview a really important story for tomorrow here
on The Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to entuct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it, and you
(30:13):
know that that the censorship.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I disagree with you specifically about the right. Now, I
have to disagree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Boy.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I'll tell you that is one of the top five
stupidest things ever said on television anywhere right. And Margaret
Brennan is not a stupid person. She has a lot
of bad ideas, bad leftist ideas, but she's intellectually very gifted.
So why would somebody smart say something that's stupid that
it was free speech that caused the Holocaust? Of course
(30:40):
it was not. But the reason she said that is
because the left is they're saying the quiet part out loud. Now,
the left knows that free speech means the end of
the left. That's why they've worked so hard to end
free speech in America. Cancel culture. If you speak an
opinion they don't like, You're a racist, you're a bigot,
(31:02):
you're a sexist. You have to be canceled, driven from
normal society because the left knows if people are free
to speak the truth, the left loses. And now they
are driven to this absurdity. Oh, it was free speech
that caused the Holocaust. So the encouragement in that is
that one of the great lasting gifts of the Trump
(31:23):
victories is the preservation of free speech in America. And
as long as we have it, the left will lose.
And she's just now displaying it for all to see.
That is their platform. Free speech equals evil unless it's
their free speech. Hey, let's go to the phone lines.
Welcome Kathy to the Dan Kaplis Show. Hey, Kathy, Oh,
(31:46):
she just dropped. I hope she's okay. Technical term dropped, right.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
She called nine one one, did not physically drop that
I could call her Paul drop from the phone unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Good, excellent, excellent. Let's get back to our texters here Dan,
with the last couple of hours, Trump said Ukraine should
never have started the war with all the great work
coming from this administration. This is a black mark, extremely ignorant,
and a complete embarrassment. And I am a DJT supporter.
I saw that text come in during the break. I'm
(32:19):
checking the news feeds. I never take what a CNN
or NBC report as true. The initial reporting appears to
be that President Trump did say something along those lines.
It was more in the context of firing back at Zelensky,
who was criticizing President Trump today, which is really bizarre, right,
(32:41):
But it was more in that context. So I am
very very confident that President Trump does not perceive Ukraine
as starting this war, and that if he made some
comments on the fly that came across that way, that
those will be clarified. And again, I think Trump deserves
a lot of credit for soon ending the bloodshed, because
(33:04):
it's not Trump Trump's fault that Putin, who is Satan
on Earth, went into rape and pillage Ukraine. That's Biden's fault.
It's the left's fault. Putin did not go into Ukraine
when Trump was president. He went in when Obama was president,
he went in. When Biden was president, he didn't go
in when Trump was president. If Trump had that second term,
then Putin would not have gone into Ukraine. I think
(33:25):
any honest person would have to admit that. So Trump
deserves none of the blame for its starting. He deserves
the credit for it ending because, as one of his
people said earlier today, before Trump was elected, people were
talking about is there a way to solve the war?
Now because of Trump, they're talking about when it will end,
because it's certain now it will end. Why because of Trump?
(33:47):
So yes, if he made a comment in anger when
he was responding to Zelensky's bizarre criticism, then yeah that
I'm sure he will clarify that over the next few days.
There is no question that this war was completely unnecessary.
It was invited by Biden's weakness and the Left's weakness.
(34:07):
But the cause of it is the evil of Vladimir
Putin and Europe being unwilling to step up and put
boots on the ground in Ukraine. And I didn't want
World War three, obviously, but if Europe was not willing
to put boots on the ground in Ukraine, and there
should never be American boots there. Then Putin was destined
to win. The only way to stop Putin was Europe
(34:30):
putting boots on the ground. The people of Ukraine fought
heroically and bravely, beyond all measure, but they were not
going to be able to defeat Russia without Europe being
willing to put boots on the ground. And hopefully Europe
being willing to put boots on the ground would have
deterred Putin, but Putin saw it clearly early. Biden was
pathetically weak. European leaders, pathetically weak and evil took advantage
(34:54):
of that. Thank god, Trump's going to stop the bloodshed now. Ryan,
great job, Kelly, you as well. Great to have you back.
Kelly and Christy Burton Brown in the house tomorrow. Thanks
for being here today on The Dan Caplis Show.
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