October 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Heidi Ganahl, Rocky Mountain Voice on the latest controversy involving Jena Griswold, as her office mistakenly revealed partial passwords for Colorado voting systems online.
Brenda Dickhoner, President and CEO of Ready Colorado joins Dan to discuss her staunch support of Amendment 80, enshrining school choice in the state constitution.
Brenda Dickhoner, President and CEO of Ready Colorado joins Dan to discuss her staunch support of Amendment 80, enshrining school choice in the state constitution.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. It is real, now,
isn't it? Just a week away? A weekend now? Of course,
we don't know how long we're going to have to
(00:20):
wait for results. Just a week away. It's four o'clock
what four o'clock Mountain times? So maybe a week and
a few hours longer until most of the polls that
are going to matter close. Wow, can just taste it
right now? Eight five five four zero five eight two
five five the number. Glad you're here, going to do
all the stuff you'd expect us to do today and
(00:41):
a few things you might not, because that's the beauty
of this, right. I mean, there's always something, always, something
unexpected coming down the pike. And today it's a story
about the Colorado Secretary of State allegedly posting highly secure
passwords to voting system on the Secretary of state website.
(01:02):
Could this be true? So we'll be digging into all
of that, and if it is true, are there going
to be criminal charges brought. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So we'll be following up with special guests on all
of that. Obviously, we want to bring you all the polls,
all the early return vote data, everything else. President Trump
today addressing what we talked about yesterday on this show,
which is this, in my mind, just absolutely bizarre, harmful.
(01:30):
Not that it's going to cost him the election, as
I explained, I think he has too big a lead
for that. But this bizarre so called comic, you know,
at this otherwise great event on Sunday, you know, just
insulting Puerto Ricans, insulting Latinos, insulting Jews, insulting Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't know him. I've never heard of ms.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's what he told well, which would oh yeah, speaking
of this so called comic, this this idiot. Yeah, So
we'll get into Trump's comments today because President Trump today
did a bit of a presser. And think about this
right now. Think and this goes back to what I
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respectfully submitted to you in the very beginning, when you know,
I predicted they're going to get rid of Biden, they'll
be a coup, they'll put somebody else in. But when
Harris got in, hey, hey, we all need to rest easy.
I know it's going to get bumpy, it's going to
look scary. But America is not going to elect Kamala Harris.
And there are a lot of different reasons for that,
but the most fundamental one is she's obviously a far
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left San Francisco radical. I don't care who the person is.
America is not going to elect that person president. But
then there are other layers here, including she's never done
a press conference, right, a real press conference during this campaign.
If you can't do a press conference, you can't be president.
I mean, Americans aren't going to elect somebody who hasn't
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even at a press conference. Trump had another one today
right where he talked about all this and as Ryan
just said, Trump's I had never heard of this so
called comedian, and then talked about how he was such
a great president for Puerto Rico, loves Puerto Rico, et cetera.
I think very very wise of President Trump to come
out and do that today. And so anyway, well we'll
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just look at the latest polling to see if this,
you know, if this mistake and it was a big
mistake on Sunday, is showing up in the polling at all.
It cannot be a positive for the president. It could
only be a negative in my opinion, but I never
expected it to be a big enough negative to change
the outcome.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, just real quick, dan, On an hour by hour basis,
Donald Trump continues to hit new record highs in the
polymarket betting odds. He is now up to sixty six
point seven. It's gone up nine down.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you for mentioning the betting nods. So listen, I'm
the most optimistic guy around, right, and I'm the guy
who's been saying for a long time, I think you
have two that Trump's going to win. But I think
that the polymarket betting nods I think are worth zero.
I put no credibility whatsoever in those runds, and I
think you may disagree, and I'd enjoy that disagreement, but
(04:04):
I put no stock in those whatsoever, because that's just people,
right that, that's just people betting their money on who
they think is going to win. I remember sitting there
Election night twenty twenty, and it was it was fairly
late mountain time. It was getting to be maybe eight o'clock,
eight thirty mountain time, and I remember whichever channel I
was on, they talked about how the betting nods for
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Trump were. Sorry, So on Election Night twenty twenty, pretty
late in the evening, the betting nodswear dramatically in Trump's favor. Yeah,
I just don't put stock in him. Why do you
put stock in them?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Because that's people putting their own heart earned money where
their mouth is. And what are they willing to bet
on the fact that it's two to one Trump right now? Dan,
if you go back and follow this, whether it was
against Biden or Hillary, Trump's never been in this good
of position, whether it was in the betting odds or
in the polls themselves. And I know Harry Enton's trying
to sell the horse race down the stretch here, but
the fact of the matter is Donald Trump is so
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he's light years ahead in the polls where he was
in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Listen, brother, you don't have to convince me on the polls.
I'm the guy on air every day talking about how
the polls overall look so good for Trump. There are
always going to be some exceptions, No, I get it, Hey,
the polls, the early return data, so many different I
think more reliable indicators to believe that Trump's going to
win and likely win more comfortably than expected. Right now,
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all I'm saying is the betting nods to me, I
don't put any stock in because your point, right, Okay,
it's real people betting real money. But you've been to Vegas, right,
I mean, what do you think builds all those casinos
and builds all those skyscrapers. It's people losing their money.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, But this is like betting the money line on
a football game or anything else. And you know, idiots
and clowns can vote, but I don't think they make
up the overwhelming number of this vote, nor would it
be this type of margin. Dan, We're talking two to
one right now in favor of Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And I love seeing it, right, I love every positive indicator.
All I'm saying is that the reason I'm very optimistic
right now has nothing to do with betting nots. And
I understand lots of smart people like Ryan do put
stock in that, and I get why. I get why. Logically,
I'm just saying, I'm much more interested in hard data,
such as early voting trends and where those votes are
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coming from. I'm interested in hard data such as not
each and every poll, but the trend lines in the polling,
and also just the fundamentals, the fundamentals of a race,
which really, to come back to, right, Trump was president.
Everybody knows what a Trump presidency looks like. Whether they
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like it or not, they know what it looks like.
And that means that virtually everybody voting knows they were
better off under a Trump presidency. And Americans know who
Kamala Harris is. This effort of hers to lie about
what she truly believes. I don't think anybody's buying that
for a second. And that brings us to the latest polling,
right Ryan, which, as you say, I mean, it's listen,
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you're just looking for the trend line. And so we
see for Trump right now, we see for Trump right
now overall still this steady It's small, but still these
steady moves in his direction. And yeah, that's that's exactly
what you want right now. Of course you'd rather I'm
up four or five, but compared to in these polls
and in the average, let's take the real clear politics average.
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You know where he was, you know, on this day
a week before the election in twenty twenty versus where
he is today. That's looking very good for him. But
that still isn't the reason that I'm so optimistic. That
the reason I'm so optimistic is that you know, it's
not about what you tell pollster, it's whether you go
out and vote. And I just have to believe that
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the commitment to Trump, the intensity the passion for Trump,
far surpasses that for Kamala Harris. And I understand that
you're going to argue or think, and you'd be right
that Wait a second. You've got some people very passionate
about voting against Trump. Sure you do, but here's a
dynamic that doesn't get talked about enough.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Here.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You've also got some people now very passionate about voting
against Harris. Has nothing to do with gender, has nothing
to do with race, has nothing to do with anything
other than her and other than her radicalism and the
fact that Trump campaign has brilliantly told the truth about
her in the swing States. We don't see much of
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it here through these spots where it's her, it's on camera,
it's in her own voice, and there's nowhere for her
to hide. That is truly her and what she believes,
And so I think that's going to be a very
critical dynamic in this race. A lot of people who
will crawl over glass to vote for Trump, even before
the heroic way he handled the assassination attempt, and now
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now you bet they will. So the intensity of support
for Trump, but also the intensity of opposition to her.
Look at how her negatives have sort as people have
learned the truth about her and watched her out there.
So that's why I think that barring Martians landing or something,
it's all coming together very very well for Trump. So yeah,
we'll get into some of some of those specific some
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of the data when we come back, though, I do
want to bring you up to speed on this story
just developing this afternoon. Did the Colorado Secretary of State?
Isn't this the gold standard here, right? Doesn't she love
to say that? Did the Colorado Secretary of State or
her office really post highly classified passwords to our election
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systems on their website? You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast just
a week away.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Cannot wait. We'll get to the phone lines text in
a second. Wanted to get our friend Heady Ganaal Rocky
Mountain Voice back on with us because of fascinating story
breaking on KUSA. And I'm sure Heidi is way ahead
on this story because she is on all these election
integrity issues. Heidi, welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Thanks Dan. This is a doozy boy. I don't want
anyone to underestimate the importance of what up and today
with Jennie Griswold. The gold standard of election is definitely
not the gold standard as it stands today.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, it might be some other substance standard, but tell
everybody what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So more than six hundred bios passwords, So that's basically
the password for the voting systems the components in the
voting system in sixty three of the state's sixty four
counties were publicly shared in a file on the Secretary
of State's website. Well why not literally on the website?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's and now you say these are six hundred did
you say bio passwords called.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Bios bios And it's the password for basically the operating
system for the voting system component.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, okay, nothing confidential about that. And so what's the
significance of this and how could something like this happen.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So the bad thing is the passwords were not encrypted
or protected at all, so that means they were available
to the public. And the Secretary of State just came
out with a statement, I don't have it right in
front of the basically saying everything's fine, listen to see here.
They couldn't get in there even if they had the passwords,
and I think nine News is kind of going down
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that path too. But for all the mocking and ridicule
I've faced in the last what six to eight weeks
since I've put out a lot of information about the elections,
it's just shocking to me that again they're trying to
gaslight the people of Colorado and act like this is
no big deal.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, well, well here's the Kyle Clark reporting on it.
Let me quote it. Spokesman for Colorado Secretary of State,
Jenna Griswold confirms that quote partial passwords for Colorado voting
systems were inadvertently posted online. The Kylo GOP first flag
the issue, and Clark continues. In twenty twenty one, Griswold
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removed the Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters, from her role
supervising elections after a leak of Mesa County's BIOS passwords bios,
the same term HEIGHTI just used. Peters was recently sentenced
to nine years for a role in the breach of
her county's voting systems.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, so, Dan if Mesa in twenty twenty one
was a serious breach. Those are Jenna's words, and that
wasn't during an election. What is six hundred plus bios
passwords during an election?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That seems like easy math. Kyle Clark goes on to
say when the BIOS passwords were leaked in Mesa County,
Griswold called it, quote a serious breach of voting system
security protocols, and then Kyle Clark quotes from a statement
from Colorado Secretary of State on that quote. The posted
images depict the BIOS passwords specific to the individual hardware
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stations of Mesa County's voting systems. The public disclosure of
the BIOS passwords for one or more components of the
Mesa County voting system alone constitutes a serious breach of
voting system security protocols. So that's how Griswold viewed it.
When it was Tina Peters, that's right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And honestly, Dan, the only way to be sure at
this point what the election results are in Colorado is
to hand count the paper ballots, because how else do
you like assure the people of Colorado that there wasn't
a breach, or bring in some outside third party not
related to the government, forensic experts to look at everything,
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and we don't really have time for that before the
election in just a week.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, yes, and I'd extend it to a step in
another direction, additional direction. I think we need an absolute, outside,
independent prosecutor to review this. I'm not suggesting anybody committed
a crime or should be criminally charged, that's not the point.
But anytime you have the leak of passwords to our
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voting systemystems, you need a very serious, independent, outside investigation.
So I'm not talking about Phil Weiser's office, right, that's
the last place you'd go. And that's not a reflection
on any of the great people there, and there are
a lot of great people there. I'm just talking about
that the reality of public trust in the system requires
an outside investigation.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That's right. And honestly, if the Colorado GOP wanted to
do more than put a press release out about this,
they should be asking a court for a handcount prior
to certification. I mean, I don't know how else you
assure people that the vote is accurate at this point
in this breach.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Heide, I know you know a lot about all this stuff.
What would a handcount involve? Is it doable?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Bottom line is you have to do whatever you have
to do to make sure you have integrity and secure elections.
But what would then involve.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Well, it's a lot of work, but it's doable. I mean,
we used to do this all the time, right, so
it would take a concerted effort. But I have a
feeling there's plenty of volunteers across the state of Colorado
that would help. So I think that at this point
we should start talking about what that looks like and
find out from the experts what would need to happen
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to make that happen. And also, to your point, we
need an independent outside forensic expert, and I don't know
if that's a prosecutor or not to look at this
and see what happened. Apparently the spreadsheet that was posted
I just read very quickly because I just got out
of the car from picking up my kids. And running around.
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Apparently there was just a column that just had to
be unhit, like you know how you hide a call
them or unhigh a column. Yeah, that's what exposed the.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Passport, and that's what they're reporting on it says. And
again I'm not suggesting anybody committed crime or anybody did
anything with intent, But what I'm saying is when you're
talking about something of this seriousness, then I think you
need you need actor involved in the investigation. And as
you know, prosecutors routinely use forensic experts, as my guess
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is they used in the prosecution of Tina Peters. So
you need that legal involvement directing the investigation. Then you
need the expert forensic involvement because you need the full truth.
Do I think the full truth will point to a crime. No,
my gut tells me not. But the full truth will
point to a level of recklessness and sloppiness with literal
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states secrets going to the heart of election integrity. That
has to be addressed and there has to be an
honest accounting of how it could have happened. And you know, Jenna,
my personally constitutionally protected opinion, I think that's the last
thing that Jenna Griswold will want is that kind of
full public accounting on this.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, and this layers on to the things we've been
talking about over the last few weeks and days. There
were three votes went through in Mesa County that shouldn't
have that weren't verified. Their signatures weren't verified. There's no
audit process on the signature verification process, so there's no
outside entity saying, hey, if you use this process that
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you've created to check signatures, it's accurate ninety eight point
nine percent of the time. There's none of that, And
there's none of that in the post office where there's
thirty thousand ballots unaccounted for in the undeliverable piles coming
out of the post office back to the clerk's office.
And there's no accountability or outside security experts looking at
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the remote Wi Fi access in twelve counties that Matt
Crane has admitted. And why at this point, Dan, do
we believe them that that's accurate Because they haven't been
honored about a lot of this.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And what we're lacking here is the kind of media
pressure necessary for Griswold have to have these questions answered independently,
and that's why credit Kyle Clark with this reporting. I
think this is important reporting. But now the key is
will there be the follow up? Because we know if
this was a conservative secretary of state, a Republican who
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had done this, it would be an everyday story until
we got to the full bottom of it for the
public to see. Heidi, great work on this, Thank you
for your time.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thanks, Dan, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Appreciate it. That's Heidi ganaal Rocky Mountain voice. When we
come back in part we'll talk more about this story
and where do we go from here. You're on the
Dan Kapler Show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And as he's saying that, you know, Kamala Harris wants
to spend tax pay his money for sex changes in jails.
He spent millions and millions of dollars on it, and
like Charlamage said, have him and myself and that, how
do you answer that for people that don't know, and
what is the real news when it comes to that.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Well, first of all, to your point, he has spent
tens of millions of dollars trying to hit me with
a bunch of disinformation and it's information on this and
he's living in a glass house because the policies he's
speaking about in terms of those surgeries were also his policies,
and the reality of it is that they would also
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Those ads relate to two people.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, she's not denying it, right, And this ad we've
been talking about it on the show, You've seen it.
Trump campaign is wisely hammered. It the most effective political
ad in our lifetime, and she cannot deny it. It
is absolutely bearing her, not just on this this extreme
transposition she's taken, which is wacko stuff, but it just
reveals her for who she really is, a totally looney lefty.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
When I was Attorney General, I learned that the California
Department of Corrections, which was a client of mine I
didn't get to choose.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My clients, a client of the Attorney General, a client.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Of the Attorney General of the Office of Attorney General,
that they were standing in the way of surgery for
prisoners for prisoners. And there was this Pacific case. And
when I learned about the case, I worked behind the
scenes to not only make sure that that transgender woman
got the services she was deserving, so it wasn't only
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about that case. I made sure that they changed the
policy in the state of California so that every transgender
inmate in the prison system would have access to the
medical care that they desire and need. And I believe
it was not only that. I know it was historic
in California, but I believe actually it may have been
one of the first, if not the first, in the
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country where I pushed for that policy in a department
of corrections.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It doesn't get any better than that. There is nowhere
to hide from that. Ninem Very proud Ryan. If my
memory serves me correctly, I think that is the first
sound of hers I played on the show after she
was installed. If it wasn't the first, it was close
to the first, because as soon as I saw that
and heard it, I knew, Okay, this is going to
do it. This alone will do it. Hey, let's go
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to the VIP line. Brenda Dakoner kind enough to join us,
President of CEO of Ready Colorado, President and CEO of
Ready Colorado talking about Amendment eighty. Brenda, welcome to the
Dan Kapli.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Show and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Hey, let me throw out one programming note Brenda. While
we're talking, a story broke before we had booked you,
and I just want to let everybody know we're going
to follow up on it when we've had our conversation
with Brenda. A story that reports that the Colorado Secretary
of State had posted hundreds of passwords to the state's
election system had posted them online. So we'll follow up
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on that story shortly. But Brenda, the importance of Amendment eighty,
I think very clear to folks, but please do lay
it out for everybody.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Yeah, thanks for taking a few minutes of challenge on it. Yeah,
it will establish the right to school choice interstate constitution.
And the reason we think it's important ready Colorado, my
organization has advocated for school choice for the last SECS kid.
We're really behind this because we know that we've fought
really hard for the laws that are in place today.
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They're in our state statue that grandparents the right to homeschool,
the right to choose a different public school for their child,
which is called open enrollment, and the right to attend
a charter school. Those are all established by laws, and
those could be which means they could be taken away
at any time, right, and so what this does is
protect those rights in our constitution and says we really
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think these are important rights. We have lots of options now,
which is great in Colorado, but we want to keep
those options.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, and I'm not going to bore people with my
laundry list, but I just think this true school choice
is the key to the next big step forward in America,
particularly for middle income, lower income, disproportionately kids of color.
So I love what you're doing. Tell people where it's
at right now. Obviously, at this point, can folks still
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vote by mail or is it at the point now
where we need to drop it off to make sure
it gets counted.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I definitely encourage dropping it off to get to make
sure it gets counted. Would not put it in the
mail at this point, but definitely if you haven't done
that yet, would encourage you to fill out that ballot
with a yes for Amendment eighty and get it turned in.
And you're totally right, Dan about the just kind of
the life change of potential school choice. I have had
the privilege through my role to visit a lot of
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these high performing charter schools across the state and have
had her first hand from low income students of color
whose lives have been completely changed for the better, who
now have these career prospects they would have never had otherwise.
And it's really it's incredible to see.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh yeah, And as you look at the landscape, I mean,
there's nothing else out there that holds the real promise,
the concrete opportunity to dramatically transform transform society, break the
cycle of poverty, severely reduced societal costs when it comes
to all sorts of ill including incarceration, and dramatically increase
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productivity and society. And above all, the most important thing,
by light years, just on a moral level, make sure
all these children of God have a fair opportunity in life,
because if you don't have a fair opportunity in education,
it's almost impossible then to have a fair opportunity to
compete in life.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
It's really that way that we can make the American
dream come true, to come true, and I sure all
kids can reach their full God given potential. And I
think you what I would add too is that but
these rights are truly under attack, and so the arguments
I've heard against it, right against the M and eighty,
I should say, is that were you know, we've got
strong protections for these rights already, and that's simply not true, Dan,
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And I'm fighting every day against efforts to undo in schooling,
undoe charter school, to take make put put up all
these barriers to school choice. And so that's why I'm
excited about the potential.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Firmn Yeah, And we can have a longer form conversation
someday about this, because I really do think there's an
enormous moral problem on the part of the organized groups
that are opposing this, because I think they're doing it
for their own selfish political interest, etc. And when it
comes to these children and their futures, you would think
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some things would be sacred. But love what you're doing.
Hope everybody votes for eighty and then we'll keep our
fingers crossed an election night.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Oh. Absolutely, this is an exciting opportunity for us to
really stand behind this important right for parents to choose
the best educational setting for their children.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Amen. Thank you for that, Brenda, appreciate the time.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Thank you, take care you too.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
That's ow Brenda Daconor, who's president and CEO of Ready Colorado.
And I thought I thought the left was all about choice. Right,
You got to have the choice to be able to
kill that baby right up till the moment it's delivered.
But parents shouldn't have the choice. Middle and lower income
parents shouldn't have the choice education. Parents of color shouldn't
have the choice in education. Seems to be a real
disconnect there on the left. Right, Yeah, because they don't
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care about kids. They don't care about people of color.
I'm sure there are some individuals in those different sects
who do, but not as a whole. That is, they
just don't care and it's sure not their priority. Let's
go to Brian. This is an important breaking story this afternoon,
some really good reporting by Kyle Clark on this at KUSA.
But the Colorado Secretary of State allegedly posting hundreds of
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secret passwords to our election system, posting them online the
Colorado GOP. Good job by the Colorado GOP and spotting
that and calling it out.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Real quick question, Dan, and I just real direct, and
I'm honestly asking, is Jenna Griswold inept or corrupt? Which
is it? Or is it both? Wow?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why don't we use that as a tease?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Can we do that? Let me let me squeeze Brian
in here, you'll slash my tires. Brian, you're on the
Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Welcome. Damn. Yeah, the old golden standards really falling apart.
What I don't get, though, Dan, is about your gut
because just what we've heard, Okay, thirty thousand ballots unaccounted for.
And then she said, well, there's no SIM card. Guys,
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there's no sim card. There's no even access to the internet. Nope,
it's not happening. And then all of a sudden, well
there was, but we disconnected it during the election, and
now we got a leaked password.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well how according to the story, but.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
We got Tina doing nine years. We're all not that dumb.
My gut feeling tells me from what I see, she's
as corrupt as they come.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Dan, well let me address that after the break. You're
on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
But I think the country would love to know what
Jack W. Bush is thinking today, you know, Joe, that's
an interesting aspect that MI could just raised the number
of Republicans who have spoken out against Donald Trump's candidacy.
It really is kind of minimal when you look at
the parade of characters.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But George W.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Bush, I mean, his voice would really really mean something
in this and I can't believe that he and his
family are sitting there tolerating the idea of voting for
Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Look who your candidate is, Kamala Harris. I mean, that's
what they don't want to talk about. Listen, you know me.
I believe Trump did historically great things as president and
will again in another term, so I can live with
some of the personality stuff. But when the choice is
Kamala Harris, you really expect George Bush or any person
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who truly cares about these conservative causes to come out
and support Kamala Harris And.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Think about the ask here Dan, think about Mike Barnacle
and the entire mainstream media, and w is not my
favorite by any stretch. However, go back to the eight
years of George W. Bush's presidency and how the main
stream media and the Mike Barnacles of the world treated him,
called him hitler. You think George W. Bush is in
any hurry to do them a favor by coming out
(29:09):
and supporting Kamala Harris, Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Listen. I think George Bush is at his core a patriot.
I think here a true American patriot. I don't agree
with everything he ever did, and obviously he made some mistakes,
but he also did some really good things. I think
he's a true American patriot. I think he despises Donald Trump.
I think he despises him with every bone in his body.
(29:34):
But I really admire Bush for not letting that cause
him to do what some other conservatives have done and
and out of you know, personal anger at Trump or whatever,
then abandon the causes that conservatives have fought for.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I think we've even heard Jeb though, who took the
vicious beating in the primary from Trump. I mean, Trump
was all you a real tough guy, Jeb. I think
even Jeb has come out though Dan and said, hey, look,
you know, we got to vote for Trump here. He's
the obvious choice. And I would if I had to
bet money at polymarket and we would never know, but
I would say that W absolutely will vote for Donald
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Trump over Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It'd be interesting to see if we ever know that.
But Hey, getting to this big breaking story of the day,
and credit to Kyle Clark, for some good reporting on
this and most of the credits see if Dave Williams
can join us on this. Most of the credit to
the Colorado GOP for breaking this story that the Colorado
Secretary of State had allegedly posted on her website. Her
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office had posted on the website top secret passwords to
our election system. Let me give you some of the
Coyle Clark reporting. We'll go back to the phone lines.
I do want to answer Brian's question from before the
break he was getting on me, Brian from Arvada. Wow,
what a shock that are not ready to now condemn
Jenna Griswold as a felon who needs to go to
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jail immediately or any of that. My position is, we
need outside independent council experience prosecutor to lead an investigative
team led by forensic experts to get to the truth
of what happened, the truth of what happened, because what
happened is extraordinarily serious and raises enormous questions about the
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quality of Jenna Griswold's operation, and so we need to
get to that full truth. It's got to be an outsider,
simply so. Right, there's no doubt in the public's mind
about whether there was political protection going on there, and
that's no reflection. Listen, Phil Wiser, I have my political disagreements.
So then there are a lot of great lawyers in
that office. It's not a reflection on any of them.
(31:40):
It's just a matter of public trust. You don't want
to someone who's politically aligned to be doing this investigation.
You want an outside investigation. That's how this thing needs
to come down. But does my gut at this point
tell me that Jenna Griswold or anybody in her office
mentionally did this. No, my gut tells me they didn't.
(32:03):
Does my gut tell me that there are crimes committed here?
I don't know, because I don't know enough about the
law that applies here to know what the intent element
is or if there's a negligent slash recklessness standard that
creates criminal culpability. But here's some of the Kyle Clark reporting.
Kyle Clark reports that spokesperson for Colorado Secretary of State
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Jenna Griswold confirms that quot partial passwords for Colorado voting
systems were inadvertently posted online. The Colorado GOP first flag
the issue Clark goes on to report in twenty twenty one,
Griswold removed then Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters from her
role supervising elections after a leak of Mesa County's BIOS
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that's BIOS passwords. Peters was recently sentenced to nine years
for her role in the breach of her county's voting systems.
Clark further reports when the BIOS passwords were leaked in
Masa County, Griswold called it, quote a serious breach of
voting system security protocols, and then quoted a release from
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the Secretary of State's office when it happened in Masa County,
saying the posted images to pick the BIOS passwords specific
to the individual hardware stations of Mesa County voting system.
The public disclosure of the BIOS passwords for one or
more components of Mesa County's voting systems alone constitutes a
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serious breach of voting system security protocol So if it
was serious enough to take that action in Mesa County
against Tina Peters, isn't it every bit as serious here?
And the reporting is that many, many passwords were posted
online height five four zero five A two five to five.
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The number text DN five seven seven thirty nine. Let's
go up to beautiful Fort couns Don, you're on the
day Kapalist show.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, good afternoon. I wanted to give you
a call and find out if you happen to know
which of the Supreme Court justices for the State of
Colorado voted to keepe Trump off the ballot.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I do, but I'd have to go back to the
opinion and pull that up. Yeah, I know one of
those justices is up for retention in this cycle, but.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There are three on the ballot. Boat Wright was on there, Don,
and he was actually in the descent.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
A brilliant descent, right, brilliant descent that we had cited
on the show.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Now that's the one I remember off the top of
my head. But the look in the break here.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
But I believe Justice Marquez, who was in the majority,
is on the ballot.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Okay, yeah, right, Any light that you can shed there,
because you know, unless you're watching that very very closely,
you kind of lose track.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Of oh yeah, yeah, who voted.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
To keep Trump off and who wrote the dissenting opinion?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, Don, And you know, I get so many people
asking me, Hey, Dan, do you know these judges? What
do I do on the on the judges thing? And
there isn't time to go through my whole litany here,
but I'll address that as well when we come back.
The latest on this Secretary of State password story as well,
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
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isn't it? Just a week away? A weekend now? Of course,
we don't know how long we're going to have to
(00:20):
wait for results. Just a week away. It's four o'clock
what four o'clock Mountain times? So maybe a week and
a few hours longer until most of the polls that
are going to matter close. Wow, can just taste it
right now? Eight five five four zero five eight two
five five the number. Glad you're here, going to do
all the stuff you'd expect us to do today and
(00:41):
a few things you might not, because that's the beauty
of this, right. I mean, there's always something, always, something
unexpected coming down the pike. And today it's a story
about the Colorado Secretary of State allegedly posting highly secure
passwords to voting system on the Secretary of state website.
(01:02):
Could this be true? So we'll be digging into all
of that, and if it is true, are there going
to be criminal charges brought. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So we'll be following up with special guests on all
of that. Obviously, we want to bring you all the polls,
all the early return vote data, everything else. President Trump
today addressing what we talked about yesterday on this show,
which is this, in my mind, just absolutely bizarre, harmful.
(01:30):
Not that it's going to cost him the election, as
I explained, I think he has too big a lead
for that. But this bizarre so called comic, you know,
at this otherwise great event on Sunday, you know, just
insulting Puerto Ricans, insulting Latinos, insulting Jews, insulting Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't know him. I've never heard of ms.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's what he told well, which would oh yeah, speaking
of this so called comic, this this idiot. Yeah, So
we'll get into Trump's comments today because President Trump today
did a bit of a presser. And think about this
right now. Think and this goes back to what I
(02:09):
respectfully submitted to you in the very beginning, when you know,
I predicted they're going to get rid of Biden, they'll
be a coup, they'll put somebody else in. But when
Harris got in, hey, hey, we all need to rest easy.
I know it's going to get bumpy, it's going to
look scary. But America is not going to elect Kamala Harris.
And there are a lot of different reasons for that,
but the most fundamental one is she's obviously a far
(02:31):
left San Francisco radical. I don't care who the person is.
America is not going to elect that person president. But
then there are other layers here, including she's never done
a press conference, right, a real press conference during this campaign.
If you can't do a press conference, you can't be president.
I mean, Americans aren't going to elect somebody who hasn't
(02:54):
even at a press conference. Trump had another one today
right where he talked about all this and as Ryan
just said, Trump's I had never heard of this so
called comedian, and then talked about how he was such
a great president for Puerto Rico, loves Puerto Rico, et cetera.
I think very very wise of President Trump to come
out and do that today. And so anyway, well we'll
(03:15):
just look at the latest polling to see if this,
you know, if this mistake and it was a big
mistake on Sunday, is showing up in the polling at all.
It cannot be a positive for the president. It could
only be a negative in my opinion, but I never
expected it to be a big enough negative to change
the outcome.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, just real quick, dan, On an hour by hour basis,
Donald Trump continues to hit new record highs in the
polymarket betting odds. He is now up to sixty six
point seven. It's gone up nine down.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you for mentioning the betting nods. So listen, I'm
the most optimistic guy around, right, and I'm the guy
who's been saying for a long time, I think you
have two that Trump's going to win. But I think
that the polymarket betting nods I think are worth zero.
I put no credibility whatsoever in those runds, and I
think you may disagree, and I'd enjoy that disagreement, but
(04:04):
I put no stock in those whatsoever, because that's just people,
right that, that's just people betting their money on who
they think is going to win. I remember sitting there
Election night twenty twenty, and it was it was fairly
late mountain time. It was getting to be maybe eight o'clock,
eight thirty mountain time, and I remember whichever channel I
was on, they talked about how the betting nods for
(04:25):
Trump were. Sorry, So on Election Night twenty twenty, pretty
late in the evening, the betting nodswear dramatically in Trump's favor. Yeah,
I just don't put stock in him. Why do you
put stock in them?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Because that's people putting their own heart earned money where
their mouth is. And what are they willing to bet
on the fact that it's two to one Trump right now? Dan,
if you go back and follow this, whether it was
against Biden or Hillary, Trump's never been in this good
of position, whether it was in the betting odds or
in the polls themselves. And I know Harry Enton's trying
to sell the horse race down the stretch here, but
the fact of the matter is Donald Trump is so
(04:58):
he's light years ahead in the polls where he was
in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Listen, brother, you don't have to convince me on the polls.
I'm the guy on air every day talking about how
the polls overall look so good for Trump. There are
always going to be some exceptions, No, I get it, Hey,
the polls, the early return data, so many different I
think more reliable indicators to believe that Trump's going to
win and likely win more comfortably than expected. Right now,
(05:23):
all I'm saying is the betting nods to me, I
don't put any stock in because your point, right, Okay,
it's real people betting real money. But you've been to Vegas, right,
I mean, what do you think builds all those casinos
and builds all those skyscrapers. It's people losing their money.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, But this is like betting the money line on
a football game or anything else. And you know, idiots
and clowns can vote, but I don't think they make
up the overwhelming number of this vote, nor would it
be this type of margin. Dan, We're talking two to
one right now in favor of Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And I love seeing it, right, I love every positive indicator.
All I'm saying is that the reason I'm very optimistic
right now has nothing to do with betting nots. And
I understand lots of smart people like Ryan do put
stock in that, and I get why. I get why. Logically,
I'm just saying, I'm much more interested in hard data,
such as early voting trends and where those votes are
(06:14):
coming from. I'm interested in hard data such as not
each and every poll, but the trend lines in the polling,
and also just the fundamentals, the fundamentals of a race,
which really, to come back to, right, Trump was president.
Everybody knows what a Trump presidency looks like. Whether they
(06:34):
like it or not, they know what it looks like.
And that means that virtually everybody voting knows they were
better off under a Trump presidency. And Americans know who
Kamala Harris is. This effort of hers to lie about
what she truly believes. I don't think anybody's buying that
for a second. And that brings us to the latest polling,
right Ryan, which, as you say, I mean, it's listen,
(06:55):
you're just looking for the trend line. And so we
see for Trump right now, we see for Trump right
now overall still this steady It's small, but still these
steady moves in his direction. And yeah, that's that's exactly
what you want right now. Of course you'd rather I'm
up four or five, but compared to in these polls
and in the average, let's take the real clear politics average.
(07:18):
You know where he was, you know, on this day
a week before the election in twenty twenty versus where
he is today. That's looking very good for him. But
that still isn't the reason that I'm so optimistic. That
the reason I'm so optimistic is that you know, it's
not about what you tell pollster, it's whether you go
out and vote. And I just have to believe that
(07:40):
the commitment to Trump, the intensity the passion for Trump,
far surpasses that for Kamala Harris. And I understand that
you're going to argue or think, and you'd be right
that Wait a second. You've got some people very passionate
about voting against Trump. Sure you do, but here's a
dynamic that doesn't get talked about enough.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Here.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You've also got some people now very passionate about voting
against Harris. Has nothing to do with gender, has nothing
to do with race, has nothing to do with anything
other than her and other than her radicalism and the
fact that Trump campaign has brilliantly told the truth about
her in the swing States. We don't see much of
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it here through these spots where it's her, it's on camera,
it's in her own voice, and there's nowhere for her
to hide. That is truly her and what she believes,
And so I think that's going to be a very
critical dynamic in this race. A lot of people who
will crawl over glass to vote for Trump, even before
the heroic way he handled the assassination attempt, and now
(08:40):
now you bet they will. So the intensity of support
for Trump, but also the intensity of opposition to her.
Look at how her negatives have sort as people have
learned the truth about her and watched her out there.
So that's why I think that barring Martians landing or something,
it's all coming together very very well for Trump. So yeah,
we'll get into some of some of those specific some
(09:02):
of the data when we come back, though, I do
want to bring you up to speed on this story
just developing this afternoon. Did the Colorado Secretary of State?
Isn't this the gold standard here, right? Doesn't she love
to say that? Did the Colorado Secretary of State or
her office really post highly classified passwords to our election
(09:23):
systems on their website? You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast just
a week away.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Cannot wait. We'll get to the phone lines text in
a second. Wanted to get our friend Heady Ganaal Rocky
Mountain Voice back on with us because of fascinating story
breaking on KUSA. And I'm sure Heidi is way ahead
on this story because she is on all these election
integrity issues. Heidi, welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Thanks Dan. This is a doozy boy. I don't want
anyone to underestimate the importance of what up and today
with Jennie Griswold. The gold standard of election is definitely
not the gold standard as it stands today.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, it might be some other substance standard, but tell
everybody what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So more than six hundred bios passwords, So that's basically
the password for the voting systems the components in the
voting system in sixty three of the state's sixty four
counties were publicly shared in a file on the Secretary
of State's website. Well why not literally on the website?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's and now you say these are six hundred did
you say bio passwords called.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Bios bios And it's the password for basically the operating
system for the voting system component.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, okay, nothing confidential about that. And so what's the
significance of this and how could something like this happen.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So the bad thing is the passwords were not encrypted
or protected at all, so that means they were available
to the public. And the Secretary of State just came
out with a statement, I don't have it right in
front of the basically saying everything's fine, listen to see here.
They couldn't get in there even if they had the passwords,
and I think nine News is kind of going down
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that path too. But for all the mocking and ridicule
I've faced in the last what six to eight weeks
since I've put out a lot of information about the elections,
it's just shocking to me that again they're trying to
gaslight the people of Colorado and act like this is
no big deal.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, well, well here's the Kyle Clark reporting on it.
Let me quote it. Spokesman for Colorado Secretary of State,
Jenna Griswold confirms that quote partial passwords for Colorado voting
systems were inadvertently posted online. The Kylo GOP first flag
the issue, and Clark continues. In twenty twenty one, Griswold
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removed the Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters, from her role
supervising elections after a leak of Mesa County's BIOS passwords bios,
the same term HEIGHTI just used. Peters was recently sentenced
to nine years for a role in the breach of
her county's voting systems.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, so, Dan if Mesa in twenty twenty one
was a serious breach. Those are Jenna's words, and that
wasn't during an election. What is six hundred plus bios
passwords during an election?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That seems like easy math. Kyle Clark goes on to
say when the BIOS passwords were leaked in Mesa County,
Griswold called it, quote a serious breach of voting system
security protocols, and then Kyle Clark quotes from a statement
from Colorado Secretary of State on that quote. The posted
images depict the BIOS passwords specific to the individual hardware
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stations of Mesa County's voting systems. The public disclosure of
the BIOS passwords for one or more components of the
Mesa County voting system alone constitutes a serious breach of
voting system security protocols. So that's how Griswold viewed it.
When it was Tina Peters, that's right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And honestly, Dan, the only way to be sure at
this point what the election results are in Colorado is
to hand count the paper ballots, because how else do
you like assure the people of Colorado that there wasn't
a breach, or bring in some outside third party not
related to the government, forensic experts to look at everything,
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and we don't really have time for that before the
election in just a week.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, yes, and I'd extend it to a step in
another direction, additional direction. I think we need an absolute, outside,
independent prosecutor to review this. I'm not suggesting anybody committed
a crime or should be criminally charged, that's not the point.
But anytime you have the leak of passwords to our
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voting systemystems, you need a very serious, independent, outside investigation.
So I'm not talking about Phil Weiser's office, right, that's
the last place you'd go. And that's not a reflection
on any of the great people there, and there are
a lot of great people there. I'm just talking about
that the reality of public trust in the system requires
an outside investigation.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That's right. And honestly, if the Colorado GOP wanted to
do more than put a press release out about this,
they should be asking a court for a handcount prior
to certification. I mean, I don't know how else you
assure people that the vote is accurate at this point
in this breach.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Heide, I know you know a lot about all this stuff.
What would a handcount involve? Is it doable?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Bottom line is you have to do whatever you have
to do to make sure you have integrity and secure elections.
But what would then involve.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Well, it's a lot of work, but it's doable. I mean,
we used to do this all the time, right, so
it would take a concerted effort. But I have a
feeling there's plenty of volunteers across the state of Colorado
that would help. So I think that at this point
we should start talking about what that looks like and
find out from the experts what would need to happen
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to make that happen. And also, to your point, we
need an independent outside forensic expert, and I don't know
if that's a prosecutor or not to look at this
and see what happened. Apparently the spreadsheet that was posted
I just read very quickly because I just got out
of the car from picking up my kids. And running around.
(15:38):
Apparently there was just a column that just had to
be unhit, like you know how you hide a call
them or unhigh a column. Yeah, that's what exposed the.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Passport, and that's what they're reporting on it says. And
again I'm not suggesting anybody committed crime or anybody did
anything with intent, But what I'm saying is when you're
talking about something of this seriousness, then I think you
need you need actor involved in the investigation. And as
you know, prosecutors routinely use forensic experts, as my guess
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is they used in the prosecution of Tina Peters. So
you need that legal involvement directing the investigation. Then you
need the expert forensic involvement because you need the full truth.
Do I think the full truth will point to a crime. No,
my gut tells me not. But the full truth will
point to a level of recklessness and sloppiness with literal
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states secrets going to the heart of election integrity. That
has to be addressed and there has to be an
honest accounting of how it could have happened. And you know, Jenna,
my personally constitutionally protected opinion, I think that's the last
thing that Jenna Griswold will want is that kind of
full public accounting on this.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, and this layers on to the things we've been
talking about over the last few weeks and days. There
were three votes went through in Mesa County that shouldn't
have that weren't verified. Their signatures weren't verified. There's no
audit process on the signature verification process, so there's no
outside entity saying, hey, if you use this process that
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you've created to check signatures, it's accurate ninety eight point
nine percent of the time. There's none of that, And
there's none of that in the post office where there's
thirty thousand ballots unaccounted for in the undeliverable piles coming
out of the post office back to the clerk's office.
And there's no accountability or outside security experts looking at
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the remote Wi Fi access in twelve counties that Matt
Crane has admitted. And why at this point, Dan, do
we believe them that that's accurate Because they haven't been
honored about a lot of this.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And what we're lacking here is the kind of media
pressure necessary for Griswold have to have these questions answered independently,
and that's why credit Kyle Clark with this reporting. I
think this is important reporting. But now the key is
will there be the follow up? Because we know if
this was a conservative secretary of state, a Republican who
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had done this, it would be an everyday story until
we got to the full bottom of it for the
public to see. Heidi, great work on this, Thank you
for your time.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thanks, Dan, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Appreciate it. That's Heidi ganaal Rocky Mountain voice. When we
come back in part we'll talk more about this story
and where do we go from here. You're on the
Dan Kapler Show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And as he's saying that, you know, Kamala Harris wants
to spend tax pay his money for sex changes in jails.
He spent millions and millions of dollars on it, and
like Charlamage said, have him and myself and that, how
do you answer that for people that don't know, and
what is the real news when it comes to that.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Well, first of all, to your point, he has spent
tens of millions of dollars trying to hit me with
a bunch of disinformation and it's information on this and
he's living in a glass house because the policies he's
speaking about in terms of those surgeries were also his policies,
and the reality of it is that they would also
(19:11):
Those ads relate to two people.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, she's not denying it, right, And this ad we've
been talking about it on the show, You've seen it.
Trump campaign is wisely hammered. It the most effective political
ad in our lifetime, and she cannot deny it. It
is absolutely bearing her, not just on this this extreme
transposition she's taken, which is wacko stuff, but it just
reveals her for who she really is, a totally looney lefty.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
When I was Attorney General, I learned that the California
Department of Corrections, which was a client of mine I
didn't get to choose.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My clients, a client of the Attorney General, a client.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Of the Attorney General of the Office of Attorney General,
that they were standing in the way of surgery for
prisoners for prisoners. And there was this Pacific case. And
when I learned about the case, I worked behind the
scenes to not only make sure that that transgender woman
got the services she was deserving, so it wasn't only
(20:11):
about that case. I made sure that they changed the
policy in the state of California so that every transgender
inmate in the prison system would have access to the
medical care that they desire and need. And I believe
it was not only that. I know it was historic
in California, but I believe actually it may have been
one of the first, if not the first, in the
(20:33):
country where I pushed for that policy in a department
of corrections.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It doesn't get any better than that. There is nowhere
to hide from that. Ninem Very proud Ryan. If my
memory serves me correctly, I think that is the first
sound of hers I played on the show after she
was installed. If it wasn't the first, it was close
to the first, because as soon as I saw that
and heard it, I knew, Okay, this is going to
do it. This alone will do it. Hey, let's go
(20:58):
to the VIP line. Brenda Dakoner kind enough to join us,
President of CEO of Ready Colorado, President and CEO of
Ready Colorado talking about Amendment eighty. Brenda, welcome to the
Dan Kapli.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Show and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Hey, let me throw out one programming note Brenda. While
we're talking, a story broke before we had booked you,
and I just want to let everybody know we're going
to follow up on it when we've had our conversation
with Brenda. A story that reports that the Colorado Secretary
of State had posted hundreds of passwords to the state's
election system had posted them online. So we'll follow up
(21:37):
on that story shortly. But Brenda, the importance of Amendment eighty,
I think very clear to folks, but please do lay
it out for everybody.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Yeah, thanks for taking a few minutes of challenge on it. Yeah,
it will establish the right to school choice interstate constitution.
And the reason we think it's important ready Colorado, my
organization has advocated for school choice for the last SECS kid.
We're really behind this because we know that we've fought
really hard for the laws that are in place today.
(22:06):
They're in our state statue that grandparents the right to homeschool,
the right to choose a different public school for their child,
which is called open enrollment, and the right to attend
a charter school. Those are all established by laws, and
those could be which means they could be taken away
at any time, right, and so what this does is
protect those rights in our constitution and says we really
(22:29):
think these are important rights. We have lots of options now,
which is great in Colorado, but we want to keep
those options.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, and I'm not going to bore people with my
laundry list, but I just think this true school choice
is the key to the next big step forward in America,
particularly for middle income, lower income, disproportionately kids of color.
So I love what you're doing. Tell people where it's
at right now. Obviously, at this point, can folks still
(22:59):
vote by mail or is it at the point now
where we need to drop it off to make sure
it gets counted.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I definitely encourage dropping it off to get to make
sure it gets counted. Would not put it in the
mail at this point, but definitely if you haven't done
that yet, would encourage you to fill out that ballot
with a yes for Amendment eighty and get it turned in.
And you're totally right, Dan about the just kind of
the life change of potential school choice. I have had
the privilege through my role to visit a lot of
(23:25):
these high performing charter schools across the state and have
had her first hand from low income students of color
whose lives have been completely changed for the better, who
now have these career prospects they would have never had otherwise.
And it's really it's incredible to see.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh yeah, And as you look at the landscape, I mean,
there's nothing else out there that holds the real promise,
the concrete opportunity to dramatically transform transform society, break the
cycle of poverty, severely reduced societal costs when it comes
to all sorts of ill including incarceration, and dramatically increase
(24:04):
productivity and society. And above all, the most important thing,
by light years, just on a moral level, make sure
all these children of God have a fair opportunity in life,
because if you don't have a fair opportunity in education,
it's almost impossible then to have a fair opportunity to
compete in life.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
It's really that way that we can make the American
dream come true, to come true, and I sure all
kids can reach their full God given potential. And I
think you what I would add too is that but
these rights are truly under attack, and so the arguments
I've heard against it, right against the M and eighty,
I should say, is that were you know, we've got
strong protections for these rights already, and that's simply not true, Dan,
(24:48):
And I'm fighting every day against efforts to undo in schooling,
undoe charter school, to take make put put up all
these barriers to school choice. And so that's why I'm
excited about the potential.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Firmn Yeah, And we can have a longer form conversation
someday about this, because I really do think there's an
enormous moral problem on the part of the organized groups
that are opposing this, because I think they're doing it
for their own selfish political interest, etc. And when it
comes to these children and their futures, you would think
(25:21):
some things would be sacred. But love what you're doing.
Hope everybody votes for eighty and then we'll keep our
fingers crossed an election night.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Oh. Absolutely, this is an exciting opportunity for us to
really stand behind this important right for parents to choose
the best educational setting for their children.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Amen. Thank you for that, Brenda, appreciate the time.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Thank you, take care you too.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
That's ow Brenda Daconor, who's president and CEO of Ready Colorado.
And I thought I thought the left was all about choice. Right,
You got to have the choice to be able to
kill that baby right up till the moment it's delivered.
But parents shouldn't have the choice. Middle and lower income
parents shouldn't have the choice education. Parents of color shouldn't
have the choice in education. Seems to be a real
disconnect there on the left. Right, Yeah, because they don't
(26:06):
care about kids. They don't care about people of color.
I'm sure there are some individuals in those different sects
who do, but not as a whole. That is, they
just don't care and it's sure not their priority. Let's
go to Brian. This is an important breaking story this afternoon,
some really good reporting by Kyle Clark on this at KUSA.
But the Colorado Secretary of State allegedly posting hundreds of
(26:30):
secret passwords to our election system, posting them online the
Colorado GOP. Good job by the Colorado GOP and spotting
that and calling it out.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Real quick question, Dan, and I just real direct, and
I'm honestly asking, is Jenna Griswold inept or corrupt? Which
is it? Or is it both? Wow?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why don't we use that as a tease?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Can we do that? Let me let me squeeze Brian
in here, you'll slash my tires. Brian, you're on the
Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Welcome. Damn. Yeah, the old golden standards really falling apart.
What I don't get, though, Dan, is about your gut
because just what we've heard, Okay, thirty thousand ballots unaccounted for.
And then she said, well, there's no SIM card. Guys,
(27:19):
there's no sim card. There's no even access to the internet. Nope,
it's not happening. And then all of a sudden, well
there was, but we disconnected it during the election, and
now we got a leaked password.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well how according to the story, but.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
We got Tina doing nine years. We're all not that dumb.
My gut feeling tells me from what I see, she's
as corrupt as they come.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Dan, well let me address that after the break. You're
on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
But I think the country would love to know what
Jack W. Bush is thinking today, you know, Joe, that's
an interesting aspect that MI could just raised the number
of Republicans who have spoken out against Donald Trump's candidacy.
It really is kind of minimal when you look at
the parade of characters.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But George W.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Bush, I mean, his voice would really really mean something
in this and I can't believe that he and his
family are sitting there tolerating the idea of voting for
Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Look who your candidate is, Kamala Harris. I mean, that's
what they don't want to talk about. Listen, you know me.
I believe Trump did historically great things as president and
will again in another term, so I can live with
some of the personality stuff. But when the choice is
Kamala Harris, you really expect George Bush or any person
(28:44):
who truly cares about these conservative causes to come out
and support Kamala Harris And.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Think about the ask here Dan, think about Mike Barnacle
and the entire mainstream media, and w is not my
favorite by any stretch. However, go back to the eight
years of George W. Bush's presidency and how the main
stream media and the Mike Barnacles of the world treated him,
called him hitler. You think George W. Bush is in
any hurry to do them a favor by coming out
(29:09):
and supporting Kamala Harris, Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Listen. I think George Bush is at his core a patriot.
I think here a true American patriot. I don't agree
with everything he ever did, and obviously he made some mistakes,
but he also did some really good things. I think
he's a true American patriot. I think he despises Donald Trump.
I think he despises him with every bone in his body.
(29:34):
But I really admire Bush for not letting that cause
him to do what some other conservatives have done and
and out of you know, personal anger at Trump or whatever,
then abandon the causes that conservatives have fought for.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I think we've even heard Jeb though, who took the
vicious beating in the primary from Trump. I mean, Trump
was all you a real tough guy, Jeb. I think
even Jeb has come out though Dan and said, hey, look,
you know, we got to vote for Trump here. He's
the obvious choice. And I would if I had to
bet money at polymarket and we would never know, but
I would say that W absolutely will vote for Donald
(30:10):
Trump over Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It'd be interesting to see if we ever know that.
But Hey, getting to this big breaking story of the day,
and credit to Kyle Clark, for some good reporting on
this and most of the credits see if Dave Williams
can join us on this. Most of the credit to
the Colorado GOP for breaking this story that the Colorado
Secretary of State had allegedly posted on her website. Her
(30:34):
office had posted on the website top secret passwords to
our election system. Let me give you some of the
Coyle Clark reporting. We'll go back to the phone lines.
I do want to answer Brian's question from before the
break he was getting on me, Brian from Arvada. Wow,
what a shock that are not ready to now condemn
Jenna Griswold as a felon who needs to go to
(30:57):
jail immediately or any of that. My position is, we
need outside independent council experience prosecutor to lead an investigative
team led by forensic experts to get to the truth
of what happened, the truth of what happened, because what
happened is extraordinarily serious and raises enormous questions about the
(31:19):
quality of Jenna Griswold's operation, and so we need to
get to that full truth. It's got to be an outsider,
simply so. Right, there's no doubt in the public's mind
about whether there was political protection going on there, and
that's no reflection. Listen, Phil Wiser, I have my political disagreements.
So then there are a lot of great lawyers in
that office. It's not a reflection on any of them.
(31:40):
It's just a matter of public trust. You don't want
to someone who's politically aligned to be doing this investigation.
You want an outside investigation. That's how this thing needs
to come down. But does my gut at this point
tell me that Jenna Griswold or anybody in her office
mentionally did this. No, my gut tells me they didn't.
(32:03):
Does my gut tell me that there are crimes committed here?
I don't know, because I don't know enough about the
law that applies here to know what the intent element
is or if there's a negligent slash recklessness standard that
creates criminal culpability. But here's some of the Kyle Clark reporting.
Kyle Clark reports that spokesperson for Colorado Secretary of State
(32:28):
Jenna Griswold confirms that quot partial passwords for Colorado voting
systems were inadvertently posted online. The Colorado GOP first flag
the issue Clark goes on to report in twenty twenty one,
Griswold removed then Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters from her
role supervising elections after a leak of Mesa County's BIOS
(32:49):
that's BIOS passwords. Peters was recently sentenced to nine years
for her role in the breach of her county's voting systems.
Clark further reports when the BIOS passwords were leaked in
Masa County, Griswold called it, quote a serious breach of
voting system security protocols, and then quoted a release from
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the Secretary of State's office when it happened in Masa County,
saying the posted images to pick the BIOS passwords specific
to the individual hardware stations of Mesa County voting system.
The public disclosure of the BIOS passwords for one or
more components of Mesa County's voting systems alone constitutes a
(33:33):
serious breach of voting system security protocol So if it
was serious enough to take that action in Mesa County
against Tina Peters, isn't it every bit as serious here?
And the reporting is that many, many passwords were posted
online height five four zero five A two five to five.
(33:55):
The number text DN five seven seven thirty nine. Let's
go up to beautiful Fort couns Don, you're on the
day Kapalist show.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, good afternoon. I wanted to give you
a call and find out if you happen to know
which of the Supreme Court justices for the State of
Colorado voted to keepe Trump off the ballot.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I do, but I'd have to go back to the
opinion and pull that up. Yeah, I know one of
those justices is up for retention in this cycle, but.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There are three on the ballot. Boat Wright was on there, Don,
and he was actually in the descent.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
A brilliant descent, right, brilliant descent that we had cited
on the show.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Now that's the one I remember off the top of
my head. But the look in the break here.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
But I believe Justice Marquez, who was in the majority,
is on the ballot.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Okay, yeah, right, Any light that you can shed there,
because you know, unless you're watching that very very closely,
you kind of lose track.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Of oh yeah, yeah, who voted.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
To keep Trump off and who wrote the dissenting opinion?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, Don, And you know, I get so many people
asking me, Hey, Dan, do you know these judges? What
do I do on the on the judges thing? And
there isn't time to go through my whole litany here,
but I'll address that as well when we come back.
The latest on this Secretary of State password story as well,
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