Lauren Boebert Defends Her Vote To Release Epstein Files

In the first hour of tonight's show, Dan Caplis is joined by Lauren Boebert to discuss her vote to release the Epstein files and how that vote has been framed by the left-wing media.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, honest person
will agree that Congressoman Lauren Bobert is a fighter. Whether
they agree with her, disagree with her, somewhere in between,

(00:23):
nobody can deny she is a fighter. So that's why
she's at the epicenter of the news universe today and
will join us at four thirty six to talk about
what actually happened. What actually happened when, according to press supports,
she was pressured by President Trump and the White House

(00:43):
apparently allegedly in a separate call and then a meeting
in the Situation Room and pressure to drop her to
drop her demand that the Epstein files be released. So
looking forward to that conversation at four thirty six. In
the meantime, would love to get your on it. Three
or three seven, one, three eight, two five five the
number do you think the congresswoman should do what the

(01:07):
administration is apparently asking and to drop her push to
have the Epstein files released. As you know, there's a mechanically,
there's a separate issue going on here with the petition
she's signed onto to get Congress to act on this
essentially through the petition. So we'll get into those details
as we have a conversation. You can text me as well.

(01:28):
DN five seven seven three nine. So can't wait to
hear to hear what you think about that and how unusual,
how unusual to pick up the phone and hear Kyle
Clark praising Congresswoman Bobert.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It sure looks like Congresswoman Lauren Bobert did a brave
thing today. Few people in politics are more polarizing. But
put politics aside and consider what is being reported by
The New York Times, CNN, and others that President Trump
directly pressured Bobert to help him stop the release of
the Epstein files by pulling her support off a congressional

(02:05):
petition and sinking that effort. Reports say the Trump White
House also brought Bobert into the Situation Room for a
meeting with the Attorney General and the FBI Director, who
we should note are accused of using the Justice Department
to punish people who defy the president and by all appearances,
Bobert did defy the president, despite the pressure and the

(02:27):
reported threats, stood firm against the wishes of her party
and her president. Not on a political or a policy
issue where the public is going to hold a wide
variety of views, but on the most basic of issues
that should unite us, all that pedophiles don't deserve protection,

(02:48):
even pedophiles with powerful friends. Now, some of this is
going to be speculation, because this apparent pressure campaign happened
behind closed doors. But if we want courage out of
political leaders, then citizens must be willing to recognize and
appreciate courage from the politicians that they like the least.

(03:12):
It certainly appears that every American who cares about kids
and accountability and transparency owes Lauren Bobert their thanks.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and of course you see the way that he
wrapped false premises into that praise of Bobert. Now, hey,
I think she does deserve a lot of praise, whether
you agree with her position on this or not, and
I'm anxious to get your take on it. D An
five seven seven, three nine. But there is so little
courage in politics right now. And maybe you're sitting there thinking,
you know what, she should do what Trump wants her

(03:44):
to do because of the overall good and you've got
to trust Trump and very rational arguments to be made there.
But even if fan'cy your view, I think you have
to concede. Wow in a world, the political world, where
you see almost no courage. I mean, obviously Trump is
an epitome of courage in many ways, but so seldom
do you see true political courage. I think she needs

(04:07):
to be admired by all for that and look forward
to having the conversation on the underlying issue with her.
But the false premise is that Clark rolled in. There
are obvious the premise that wait a second, those who
don't want to release the file are trying to protect pedophiles.
That's just afamatory. There is no proof of that whatsoever.

(04:29):
There are so many legitimate reasons to not want to
disclose whatever you define as quote the files. So you know,
that's just the kind of dishonest line of attack that's
so typical of the left. Because President Trump has every
legitimate reason to sit there and say, wait a second, yeah,
the quote files. Disclosing everything at this point is going

(04:53):
to take a whole lot of innocent people and get
them trash. Some may be ruined, some may commit suicide.
Who knows, because once somebody's name is linked to Epstein, well,
at that point everybody assumes the worst. And because Epstein
was very active in the business and financial world, you're
going to have lots and lots of names in there
who are completely innocent of anything, and Trump is one

(05:14):
example of that. So I am not supporting withholding anything
that mentions President Trump because he's president and there's legitimate
interest in that. And you know, if there was something
damning in there, it should be disclosed. But there's not,
or we would have had it a long time ago.
So so scurless, so scurless. Those who say, oh, Trump

(05:36):
doesn't want to release the files because he's protecting pedophiles,
and the people who know that say that, No, it's skurreless.
But that's just how they operate, and that's why overall
they keep losing, not every battle, but most, and the
presidents and conservatives are winning a lot more than left
not here in Colorado. But you can't judge the nation

(05:57):
by Colorado. You know, we've got our own aberration here,
We've got our own set of circumstances. Our own special
challenges for those who want to stop bad things and
do good things. But you know what, that's a blessing.
It's a blessing to be put in a place where
it's going to be a harder fight, because those are
the more important fights. Three all three seven one three

(06:18):
eight two five five texts d An five seven seven
three nine. Yeah, I think the President Trump has absolutely
legitimate reasons that I just articulated to not want to
just do a file dump. And at the same time, Hey,
Congressoman Bobert, she took a position, she took it on principle,
and the fact that she's willing to stand by it

(06:39):
under enormous pressure. I could not even imagine that pressure.
You know, that is very admirable. So love to get
your take. Three o three seven one three eight two
five five text d An five seven seven three nine.
And she will be here at four thirty six. Our
friend Ellen Dershowitz, soho I do hope to get on
the show. I think to accomplish that, I'm going to
have to remind them that he'said many, many enjoyable experiences

(07:03):
on this show, though they were years ago. In fact,
one time I remember we blew out in entire hour,
blew out all the commercial breaks because dersh and I
were fighting so hard. It was just great radio and
we're both really into it, and the listeners were clearly
into it, and so yeah, we just blew out the
breaks and didn't get fired for it. At least I

(07:26):
don't think we got fired for that. But anyway, it
was great radio for now. And that's the cool thing
is when you find those professionals Psychodershwitz, who you can
disagree with in a professional kind of way. And by professional,
I don't mean white collar versus blue collar or anything else.
A lot of the most professional people I know are

(07:47):
blue collar people who never went to college. I'm just
talking about an intelligent, dignified, but still very very pointed
kind of disagreement. So three all three seven to one, three, eight, two, five,
five the number we will dive in. Here's what Dershowitz
says about those files.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's more than ten percent documents that haven't been released
during control of the White House and the DJ.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They could end this at any time, guess there are
some things that are undersealed, but no they.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Can't because they can't get the judges it'll never end
as long as judges are documents.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
That's correct down but it is the other. Let's get
them out there. I know what's in those documents.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I know something you don't know. I know what's in
those documents. That's why it's so important.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
To get these judicial documents out there. I want them
out there if the judge will give me permission. I
have them in my physsession, my lawyers have them. Judge,
let me give them to Pierce Morgan. I want to
give them to Pierce Morgan. Why, judge, are you preventing
me from disclosing material that would be very very important
in putting a whole picture on this.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah. Dershowitz used to represent Epstein, so he has access
to all these documents, and he says, now that Epstein's dead,
he's free to release them. He says he wants to.
But you know the other legitimate reasons for President Trump
not to release him. Obviously, you have all of the
victims and their confidentiality, and you know you're gonna have
some victims who you know, want their names released in

(09:13):
connection with these files, and you're going to have others
who don't. And so sorting through all of those issues.
I believe there's zero chance that President Trump is resisting
this over something in there that would hurt him, because
we all know if that would have been out already.
Plus that's that's not him, and all of the available

(09:33):
evidence tells us that's not him. So I want to
come back get you taken all this to Congressoman at
four thirty six, You're on the Dankpla Show.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast right now.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
I fully welcome Trump voters into our coalition. And I
know that sounds crazy to some people, but.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just hear me out.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I cannot tell you it just happened to me like
two weeks ago. I can't tell you how many times
someone has pulled me aside and said either I was
once a big Trump voter and a Trump supporter, and
I watched Fox News every day. But then I started
to kind of expand my world and where I got information.

(10:28):
And now I've learned, and now I've changed, and I'm
with you, and I learned from you. Or people who
meet me who are really big Republicans now and they
are shocked when they meet me because they're like, you
are nothing like I was told you are, and you

(10:49):
start to see the frogs turning.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
They don't have TVs. Remember that old commercial Ryan with
a kind of an egg frying and it said, this
is your brain on drugs?

Speaker 6 (10:59):
I do.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, Yeah, what's that sound like? Hey, we've been talking
about and we're going to do a whole show on
because there's just so much data on it now and
it's anecdotal as well, you know it living life. This
surge in Christianity and other faith around America right now

(11:19):
and really worldwide at least in the terms of Christianity,
which I'm most familiar with. But part of that is
people speaking openly about it. And Marco Rubio Marca Ruby
of God, love him literally, he is right out front
with it.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
I believe that the pope is a successor of Peter,
pointed by through apostolic succession, intervention of the Holy Spirit
through the cardinals. And the one thing I can tell
you is that the only institution that was around two
thousand years ago that's still around is a Catholic Church,
the Universal Church, and I have faith in that system.
We've had very good popes, we've had bad popes, but

(11:55):
we still have a church. And I think it speaks
to the strength of the Church and to the validity
of it.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
No coincidence that I would play that right now, because
tonight I'm going to have the incredible privilege of spending
a couple of minutes with one of the most powerful
and influential Catholics in the world, a true genius. Want
somebody who has done more to advance the faith, particularly
among the young, than almost anybody who's ever been a
member of the faith. And his name is Father Mike Schmidtz.

(12:21):
And if you haven't seen any of his stuff, it
doesn't matter if you're Catholic or not, atheist, whatever. He's
loved by an awful lot of people. If you haven't
seen any of his stuff, just google him up x whatever,
Just Father Mike or Father Mike Schmitz. And so really
looking forward to that. I will report back on it
tomorrow if I'm out of court. In times so I will.

(12:43):
I'll fill you in three out three seOne three eight
two five five text d an five seven seven three nine.
The big news of the day, of course, is that
Congressoman Lauren Bobert's going to join us at four thirty six.
Why is that such a big deal because she is
the big news of the day, big national news story.
That she was put under intense pressure from President Trump

(13:03):
in the White House, even a meeting in the Situation
Room with FBI Director, Attorney General, et cetera, allegedly trying
to get her to back off of her support for
this petition to release the Epstein files because there's this
process in Congress. You don't want to hear about it,
I don't want to think about it. But basically, you
get two hundred and eighteen congress people to sign on

(13:23):
to this thing, and then formal action is taken. So
if so the story goes, they could get Congressoman and
Bobert off the petition, they could kill it. So and
then of course the reporting is that she said nope
to those demands from the White House. Well, we're going
to be able to find out for sure in a
few minutes because she'll join us at four three six.

(13:45):
But that does lead to the question, young Ryan, of
who are those profiles encourage and politics today, It could
be at any level, could be at any place, any state,
But who are those profiles encouraged? Because there are so
very few, And whether you agree with disagree with this
particular policy in general. Congressoman Bobert, I don't think there's

(14:08):
any doubt she's showing some true political courage today. It
looks like a very familiar face over there behind the
glass with you, Ryan. Could that be perhaps the greatest
young lawyer in Colorado today? Is that Adeline? It looks
like Cadline. Holy c It's an honor to be in
her presence. Yeah, no, that's cool. Of course, Adline I

(14:32):
helped worked as our screener for a very long time,
and then she became a superstar law student past the bar,
and we were fortunate enough to be able to allure
her to our law firm where she is now a
rising star. So what dock are you doing here? I
know what she's doing, a sho I've got a big
hearing in the morning, and she brought over a few

(14:52):
additional cases for me. She is I can hit the
road running.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yeah, I'm the bearer of the case law today.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, thank you and a tremendous which, as Adeline knows,
is a good thing. But you can relay this to Adline, Ryan,
that this big trial we were in up in Glenwood
Springs where the jury returned that very just and important
verdict of two hundred and five million. I was going
to cross examine a human factors expert for the other side,

(15:20):
and so I was prep and hired for that. Gave
Adline an assignment related to it. She nailed it and
gave me great summary of all of these different journal
articles and everything else, which is incredibly valuable in that
very productive crust.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Can you imagine where are going to be in like
ten years, I hope at our firm, Well, she'll be
the superstar at that.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Point, I would think, right, I think it'll be sooner
than that. That's the funny thing, because you see it right,
you see it early. People say, oh, this lawyer is
ten years experience or twenty years experience whatever. And I
remember when I was a young lawyer and I was
competing again, I was in my first year and I
was competing against a lawyer year's experience for a case,
an important case, and I said, oh, this guy's got

(16:04):
twenty years experience. And I said, no, he has one
year's experience twenty times, so we're equal in experience. Interesting, yeah,
because that's true. And then somebody like Adeline, she's already
better and a lot of people who've been doing this
a long time. That's I praise. Well, that's true. Yeah,
it's true. Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two,
five five texts d A N five seven, seven through nine.

(16:26):
Don't tell her I said any of that, okay, because
she just will be just between us. Yeah, appreciate that
very much. And I'm looking at some of the texts
that came in earlier in the day. I'm doing the
show out of Denver today. Ryan does this great show
out of Denver two to four each afternoon and six
point thirty kitch of w It looks like you were
getting text about Victor Marx and the conversation yesterday. It

(16:49):
looks like the gist of it is plenty of people
enjoyed him, but they want more on policy. Correct that
fair enough, fair enough, and we'll have plenty of conversations
and be able to deep dive all of that. I
do think what I took away, in part from the
conversation with Victor yesterday is that you know that the

(17:10):
thrust of his campaign is you know, you elect the person.
You elect the person who you trust has what it
takes to do the job, and you agree with their
principles and then you trust them to get the experts
around him and nail down the policy that That was
my sense of it yesterday because we did a lot
of bio and then we touched on a few policy issues.

(17:32):
But we're going to do our deep dives later and
it'll be interesting to see because you've got the voters
who are fine with that, and then you've got the
voters who they want the policy specifics well.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
The bottom line, Dan, and you and I both know
this is we got to win, and in order to win,
you got to win over the persuadable voters, and a
lot of those are in affiliates in the middle, and
you could sell a conservative message, but it needs to
be finally tuned.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
And I think he needs to get there, not saying
he can't.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Get there, but I I don't believe that we've seen
yet where he is specifically in policy positions where I
would want him going into a debate with Michael Bennett
knowing he can win that debate well.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
And it is important to know those. But then it
leads to a fascinating, bigger question maybe we can get
into after we talk to Congressoman Bobert here coming out.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Of this break.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But for most voters, is that it or is it
really more about the person, more about the person and
whether that person excites them, whether that's somebody they can trust,
whether that's somebody they believe has what it takes to
be a disruptor. So, yeah, interesting conversation I have, and
that's what we're here for. So Congressoman and Boberg after

(18:42):
the break. If you're not familiar with the story, the
reporting is that the President called her directly than a
meeting with others in the Situation room, and she refused
to back off of her position that the Epstein file
should be released. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Congressoman, next, you're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Agree or disagree with her on any particular issue. Lauren
Bobert is a fighter and she is courageous and she
is back on the Dan Caplis Show. Welcome, Congresswoman, Dan,
thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
And you know I would agree to some of your
assessment there. You know, whether you agree with me or not,
like me or not, I do what I.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
Say I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, and we knew that that the first time you
ever came into this studio, which is years ago when
you were first running in that primary, and nobody, including myself,
gave you a chance of knocking off the veteran congressman.
And so we've seen that year after year after year.
But this culminating in, if the news stories are correct,
the President calling you directly, and then a meeting in

(19:49):
the situation room with the Attorney General, the director of
the FBI, the administration wanting you to drop your support
for the discharge petition on the Epstein files, and according
to publisher Sports, you politely refused. Is that story accurate?

Speaker 8 (20:07):
For the most part, that is accurate.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Certainly, there's conversations about different paths to take to get
accountability for the guilty in the Epstein cases and also
have accountability.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
And justice for the victims.

Speaker 9 (20:24):
But there wasn't as much pressure as the media would
like to think. The President of the United States wasn't
in the situation room with us.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
He wasn't in my face or yelling at me or
making demands. The President and I have a.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Good relationship and reflect one another, but I was in
the situation room with the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General,
and FBI director and some other White House officials, but
we were all contemplating different avenues. This avenue would be

(21:00):
most productive to actually come to a resolve and get
the answers that we all want to provide transparency and
of course just so there were many conversations that were
taking place yesterday. I wasn't engaging in the media during
those conversations. I wanted to have a clear head and

(21:20):
not have things get muddied during those conversations.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
But this is, in my opinion.

Speaker 9 (21:29):
The best pass forward, if there is a best path.
I don't know what documents have been destroyed in the past,
what documents were ever real were not there, and this
guess is the only way to really find out. There
are documents that the FBI is unable to receive from

(21:50):
courts because of different orders, protection orders and cases that
are sealed. And hopefully this if it is signed into law,
and that's what we end up going full forward and doing,
then hopefully this will provide the Department of Justice the
FBI the resources they need to gain information that they

(22:13):
do not have in their possession. There's also the Epstein
estate that is a one billion dollar estate that lawyers
are trying to get their hands on. Like crazy.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
It's a total feeding frenzy with its estate. And they
also have information that has not.

Speaker 9 (22:32):
Entirely been released to the Oversight Committee. We have sent subpoenas.
I believe the subpoena language needs to be stronger. But
to my knowledge, they have been working with us, but
there's still things that they have that we are not
in possession of. So there's a lot that we need
to do there. I want this administration to speak personally

(22:54):
with the victims.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
I want them to honor Floya.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
Requests as much to their ability, providing there are no
core orders preventing information being released. But these victims want
to know what was said about their particular cases, and
Attorney Gerald Pambondi and FBI Director Casptel easily said they
would go anywhere and meet anytime with these victims. They

(23:19):
would bring they would have meetings at the White House
if that's where they chose to be. They would keep
it secret. They would do whatever they needed to do
to make them feel comfortable and also allow them to
be heard.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Congressman Lauren Bobert our guest Congressman, what was the administration's
argument against the petition and why did you decide to
stick to your support for the petition here.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
I think I think my colleague Kip Roy really places
the best argument on this. He is more of a
legal mind than I am, and he has a real
problem with Article one, Article two, all of this kind
of overstepping one another and going against grand juries and

(24:04):
setting a new precedence where Congress comes in and tells
the court what they have to release.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
My view is the court steps on our toes every single.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Day, and I'm ready to impeach judges, not protect judges.
So that wasn't enough to move me.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
Although I do understand.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
That position that is taken, and I think that it
is a serious one. But I believe that this legislation
was crafted in such a way that it will protect
victims and not overreach the courts to such that we
are just doing something completely unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, the question everybody wants the answer to is why
the situation room? How did you end up in this
situation room? And what's it like?

Speaker 9 (24:52):
Yeah, well, the situation well it's beautiful first of all,
not as beautiful as the ballroom that we're going to have,
But the situation racing room is right at the front
entrance of the West Wing, and I just think that
that is a very easy and convenient skiff to have
a meeting in.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
This was a confidential meeting.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
We didn't know what classified things could come up, and
not that anything was spoken of that I don't believe
it's been released public, but you know, it is a
sensitive topic and it was just an easy skiff for
all of us to get you. Attorney General Pamboni works
right there in the Western Wing.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
It's easier for me to go there than bring.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Those folks to the Capitol and then go all through
the capital to get one of our skifts.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
So it worked.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
It worked out just well, and I wouldn't put any
extra weight that we were in.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
The sit room.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Let me ask you, just on a human level, what
was it like, because I know how much you like
him and appreciate him, What was it like to have
that conversation with President Trump that's being reported and you
have to say no to somebody like that you like
and respect.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
Sure, well, President Trump and I we spoke on the
phone very briefly about this topic.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
He and I talk fairly regularly.

Speaker 9 (26:14):
And you know this wasn't a mister President, absolutely not
kind of thing.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
I mean, it was more of what information are you
looking for? How can we help? And you know, there's
all there's.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
The concerns that I mentioned before that maybe this is
not the right path. Maybe Oversight Committee, the committee that
I serve on, does have enough information and will continue
to get more information, and maybe that is a correct
way to do this. But it wasn't a flat out no,
mister President. I communicated to him that I had a

(26:49):
meeting scheduled, a meeting that was supposed to take weeks
place weeks ago, but my Democrat colleagues have shut down
the federal government held Americans hostage so that they could
give free healthcare to illegals, and unfortunately that meeting was
just simply postponed. So I kept my word. I had
questions to ask. I said I would be there when

(27:09):
we came back into town, and so it was a
brief conversation that I had with him and many questions
were answered. I believe that I at least got meetings
to happen between the victims.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
And our Attorney General and our FBI.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
Director, as well as hopefully FOIA requests being honored on
those Freedom of Information Act requests by the victims to
the government and hopefully much more as well. But I
do respect President Trump greatly and the meeting in the
Situation room.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
I mean, these are folks.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
That I highly respect, and many of them not so much.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Attorney General Pam BONDI has been in.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
My life now for a few years, and we have
been communicating on issues just like this publicly, privately, and
now they are in these positions where we can work
together and have real conversations. I would agree with our
Press Secretary Caroline Levitt when she said that meeting just
proves that this administration is for transparency and that they

(28:17):
are willing to sit down, take time out of their
day to sit with me and answer the questions that
I have and have a conversation. They weren't coming across
the table at me making demands. These are folks with
great intent who understand my concerns, and we were simply
trying to find a solution. And when it came time

(28:41):
to swear in the new member, I was still at
the position of I believe this is the best way.
After all, I am a lawmaker, and I think I'm
just as sped up with a lot of the committee
investigations and hearings as most Americans are. So if there
are laws that are preventing the DOJ from obtaining information

(29:03):
to provide justice, well they're in luck. A laser was
sitting at the table with them, and we will pass
the law to get them their information.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
You've been so generous with your time, and I know
your time is being demanded by many today. One last question,
if I may, If I understand you correctly, it sounds
like the administration's main concern with releasing the files is
a separation of powers. Is that the issue that is
a issue.

Speaker 9 (29:29):
Yes, And also they have provided tens of thousands of
pages of documents, and there's still more that they are
wanting to get their hands on that they are prohibited
by law from obtaining from the courts, from field orders,
from protective orders, and then also documents that are in possession.

Speaker 8 (29:48):
Of the Epstein estate.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
So that's where my position was really solidified. If there
are laws preventing you from getting more information that you
believe would bring justice, well then let's make a law
that allows you to obtain that information.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, it's so grateful for your time today, and especially
on a day when you are so in demand. Oh,
that's pretty much every day, so we'll look forward to
the next visit.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
Yes, happy to serve and thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Thank you. That is congress Woman Lauren Bulbert. You're on
the Dan Kaplas.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Show and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Joining us today on the Dankpla Show as she is
in the eye of the storm. So I want to
get your reaction to all of that short show for
me today. Ryan takes over at five because I have
the privilege of attending this event that father Mike Schmiz
is going to be at, a very famous in Catholic
Christian circles, a true genius. So looking forward to that

(30:52):
very much. Ryan. I see a text here telling us
about a picket line at a Starbucks. Is anybody else
running into that?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
What I'm wondering about is if there's a picket line
like in an adjacent grocery store and the Starbucks is
in it, or they're striking at Starbucks.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I haven't heard anything about this.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I don't know if any grocery store strikes right now.
I'm not a coffee guy. Yeah, I have like five
cups a year. You don't want to see me in coffee,
So I don't go to Starbucks. I don't know what's
going on there, but that would be kind of interesting
to see a picket line at Starbucks. Yes, it would, Yeah,
how many people would cross? Is there any political orientation

(31:29):
of the folks who go to Starbucks? Is a more
Republican Democrat? Who? I guess you're woke after you leave there?

Speaker 6 (31:36):
I would say more woke left these go to Starbucks.
That's just a guess they get nothing for that.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, you're going to be more woke after you leave there.
That's totally original, probably never said before.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
You're like an owl, and you're like an owl?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh man charged up? Yeah? Yeah? Do you drink out
so much? Snatch like nice tea? I'm water water and
electrolytes my friend, all right, yeah? Really other than that,
nothing nothing so yeah anyway, But yeah, so is this
a case where you have just a lot of woll

(32:10):
kind of lefty people crossing picking lines? Or do they
not cross picking lines and go without their coffee? I
don't know who goes to Starbucks. I know my wife does.
Three or three someone three eight two five five texts
d A N five seven seven three nine, And I
am grateful for that. You know, there are a lot
of people out there, man, coffee is just such a

(32:30):
great thing for them. But we will find out somebody
will text in on that Congresswoman Bobert getting a lot
of praise in our text, as you would expect, and
then we'll see where all of this lands. I mean,
it's a when you think about it, it's it's a
really fascinating issue because you start with, you know, one
of the worst criminals of our lifetime, Jeffrey Epstein, because

(32:54):
this mass rape of women and young women included, it's
just straight out of hell. And then the need to
get at everybody who was involved in those crimes, everybody
who committed the crimes, everybody who helped perpetuate the crimes,
got to get at him. Shouldn't be any protection for
them whatsoever. Then you have the president's promise to release

(33:16):
the files, and then you have a public that wants them.
You have a lot of people want them for good reasons.
And then you have, of course the Democrats who want
them to try to destroy Trump. And then we know
the starting point issue is we know that Trump didn't
do anything wrong when it comes to Epstein, or we
would have known about it a long time ago. So

(33:38):
you mix all of that together, and what do you
do with it, especially when you're in a situation where
because Epstein is such a demon that if you release names,
if you release the entire file, anybody named in that file,
including people who did business with him, etc. Had no
idea he was engaging in these horrific crimes. They didn't

(33:59):
engage in the horrific crime. They may well be destroyed
simply because oh, their names in the Epstein files. And then,
of course you have victims, some who want their confidentiality,
some who don't. So how do you balance the need
to expose all the wrongdoers with the need to protect
those who didn't do anything wrong but would be in

(34:19):
the quote Epstein files. How do you do that? Yeah,
it'd be very interesting to see where it comes down.
Discharge petition is just a step in that process.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Are you surprised, Dan that more Republicans haven't joined the
fray there? Along with I believe it's Representative Bobert and
maybe Thomas Massey, a couple others.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I am not g I am not my friend, And
the reason for that is there's no legitimate reason to
believe the president did anything improper. There's there's no legitimate
reason at this point to believe that any prominent Republican
did anything improper. So when you have the President saying,
wait a second, please don't do this, it's going to

(35:00):
distract from our agenda. That Democrats are going to misuse
it and misrepresent it. And you're going to have a
lot of people who didn't do anything wrong ruined because
their names appear in the Epstein files because they knew Epstein,
their business connections, et cetera. So no, I don't expect
you're going to have others. But Congressome Bobert. I admire

(35:20):
her for taking a position and sticking to it despite
what had to be a lot of pressure.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Well, it's a promise she made to her constituents when
she was running for office this last time around in
the fourth congressional district. And I have to believe her
constituents support her on this, and so do I, and
she and I have had this conversation.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
She's been consistent all the way from.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
You know, who really hates what she did. Whatever Democrats
going to run against her, hmm, She's going to pick
up some Democrats support over this, and I don't think
she'll lose any Republican supporting I don't think so either, Yeah,
but I think she did what she believed to be
the right thing under a lot of pressure. That's admirable.
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