March 18, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Sherriff Steve Reams continues to fill in for Dan, and has special guest Matt Turner, a candidate to replace Reams as the Sherriff of Weld County, about what it means to replace Reams's role in the community.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
You're back in hour two of The Dan Caplis Show,
and no I am not Dan Kaplis. You're listening to Weld,
Kenny Sheriff Steve Reims. I'm honored to be able to
guest host this wonderful show, one that I am a
big fan of. I love listening to Dan and Ryan
before him any day I can. In law enforcement, sometimes
your days are a little unpredictable, but I do spend
a lot of time in a car, and so that
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gives me an opportunity to listen to some of the
best talk radio in the nation, I think right here
in Colorado. So we had a little bit of time
in this first segment that I want to get to
some of the callers. But if we want to load
the line, the numbers three oh three seven one, three eight,
two five five. You can also also text in at
five seven seven three nine. Just start your text with
Dan so I know it's aimed at me or Dan
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in any other day. But we have a caller from Pueblo.
I think he's been waiting the longest.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Matt, Yes, sir, thank you, Sheriff Steve, appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Just one thing. It's just near and.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Dear to my heart and kind of took a little
issue with what the congresswoman said. But the current SB
twenty five zor iSER A three.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I think it's more important that we educate people about
the Colorado Constitution. At the federal level, the second amendment
is that the federal government shall make no law. But
I believe it's an Article two, section thirteen of the
state Constitution. It says that the right of no person
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to keep in bare arms in defense of her home, person,
or property paraphrasing flightly shall be called into question. The
sbive it definitely does.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It definitely calls that into question.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Doesn't it exactly?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And the taxes if you go back to Article one,
section three, I believe the inalienable right to acquire property.
Now you're you're basically putting a poll tax right on
gun and ammunition to exercise our right. So at the
federal level, I think it should be more of a
fourteenth Amendment issue that protects US from the states. They
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do have ninth to tenth Amendment rights, but it's already
in our Constitution that guns and defense are inalienable. Right,
I'm sorry, my dog, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And Dodd's passionate about the Second Amendment too, so that's okay.
So Matt, I couldn't agree with you more. I do
have a question for you, though, being done in Publuo,
I mean, what's the tone of the community down there?
I mean, I know Weld County thinks this bill stinks,
and I can I think I can even speak for
that on on the basis of a lot of Democrats
that don't support this bill. Pablo is a more Democrat
area than Weld. But what are your neighbors saying, What
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do your friends saying? What do they think of this bill?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, all the.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
People I know and associate with agree, and I'm encouraging
them to look at it at the cot at the
state level as well. Yeah, but you know, clearly everybody
agrees there's no standing under the Second Amendment for sus.
This where I'm at, honestly, it's I also since i've
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I've only been here about six years myself, since I
got transferred from Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know the feeling here, so.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I'm still going through a little bit of culture shock.
But most of them, said, most of the folks I know,
even like you said, yet the Democrats as well understand
how important this is.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, Matt, I moved here from Texas and nineteen ninety five,
and when I moved to Colorado, I thought, uh, Colorado
was very much like Texas, but with a better view,
and that has definitely changed over the years. The view
is still nice well, as long as you look towards
the mountains. If you look towards downtown Denver, it's awful
at this point. But they yeah, no, it's You've got
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a great view down there too. But Matt, we got
to keep fighting the fight. This bill's not over yet.
I appreciate the call in, and you know you keep
rallying the troops down there. I tell you what, Emailing
and calling the governor's office and urging him to veto
this bill is probably our best bet at this point.
But thanks for listening, and get your dog on the
phone too.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Good job.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Share That sounds good, Thank you, sir. So you know
I think statewide. There's there's going to be a pushback
to this bill. We know it's probably going to get
you know, there's probably going to be some kind of
lawsuit filed. In fact, we may have a guest on
tomorrow and Ian Escalante with the Rocky Mountain gun owners
that's planning to do just that. But you know, it
ever hurts for your governor to hear from you, and
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whether that's you're a Democrat voter, you're a Republican voter,
those calls, those those messages, they do matter, and when
those start stacking up, you know, that gets sometimes that
does get the needle moved. I'm not saying that it's
going to be successful with this particular issue, but it's
about all we got left. So you can't leave you
can't leave that strategy on the table. We have another
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caller on the line, Jennifer from Denver.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
What do you got to say, Jim, Hey, sure, I
was at the World County meeting the first one, okay,
and I was also at the Douglas County one, and
I have some observations between the two counties.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, tell me what you saw.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, first of all, I saw people voting in circles
and circles and circles. But that's another matter. Well, in
Weld County, you know, it was clear that the people
that are reasonable Republicans that want you know, less government,
less taxation and don't go on the crazy bandwagon, we're
definitely I felt like the dominant voice of the meeting,
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and no wonder Weld County is being attacked by the
state GOP.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well it's kind of ironic, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, but the contrast was really interesting in Douglas County.
And the Douglas County meeting was before the Well County run.
And in Douglas County they ran a slate of.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
What I will call the.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Far right because I don't like the name calling and
all of that, the.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Very far right.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
They ran a whole slate. Only two of those on
the slate got elected. So the other two possions they
were more of the reasonable. You know, I guess you
can call them rhinos or what. But it was kind
of an interesting contrast to Weld County.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
When I was at welld.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
County, I mean, I just felt at ease. I felt
like people reasonable, you could talk about things, except for
Lorie saying trotting around and you know, making grand statements
and all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, we'll leave it to that. She's a candidate for GEOP,
for the state GOP chairperson now, so she didn't an
she didn't announce it that that first meeting, but I
guess she's announced since then, and she was a candidate
by the time we had our second election or second meeting,
but she didn't show for that one.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Well, some people just want to be a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Name, right, Well, she's looking for a job.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
So that's office. You can't get elected here, let's run
for the state, right, great.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, I appreciate the feedback.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Oh, go ahead, Yeah, on SB twenty five zero Z three.
Got a question if that passes, which it will probably
go to the court to YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Hopefully it does, but.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
They probably won't set a start dating until September.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So it's sept first. I think September one, if I'm
not mistaken, But yeah, it's in September. You know, there's
no way this can all get into places.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Can I'll go out and buy our AR fifteens and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Correct, you can buy anything up until the point that
that bill is enacted, and you'll have to follow the
current laws, which requires still a background check in a
three day way. This would be on top of that.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Okay, so what's to prevent, you know, a run on
people going and buying these guns? I mean I might
even go buy one, not because I necessarily have a
youth for it, but just because.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
It's my right to own it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, so you hit the nail on the head. And
I think Democrats are the best gun salesman when they
start running this kind of legislation because it makes people
really want to exercise their Second Amendment rights. And Jen,
I I appreciate you calling in. We got another caller
to get to. I think we have Kevin from Boulder
on the line. He says he's got a comment about
the FBI. Kevin, are you with us?
Speaker 7 (08:36):
I'm here, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What's your comment? We just have a few minutes, so
I'll have to ask you to keep it a little brief.
But what do you got? What's what do you? What
are your comments about the FBI?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Would you say that the FBI is a national police force?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't think I would characterize the FBI as a
national police force. Now, I think there are people that
do characterize them as a national police force, but I
think their powers are are limited in scope. I don't
think they can enforce a lot of what you see
local law enforcement dealing with. They have a narrower focus.
But you know, arguments have been made the other way.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
The reason I ask, of course, is that your opinion
or are you speaking legally or constitutionally?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I guess both. I don't. I don't think. I mean,
that's my opinion, and I think that's my interpretation of
what their constitutional authority would be, if you want to
call it that.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I ask, because the Constitution forbids a national police force, right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, And I don't I don't believe that that's what
they represent now. I think they've been weaponized by some
administrations to try to look that way. You know, we
saw that under the last administration, where the FBI was
kind of kind of doing the bidding of someone else
who was pulling the string. So I see where your
concern of them becoming that becoming a slippery slope can
come from. But quite honestly, I've never had a lot
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of interactions with the FBI where they were helpful in
many investigations. Now that's not saying they don't serve a
place and a purpose they have. They have taken some
cases that we were glad to have them around. But
for the most part, Uh, the FBI is is not
somebody that we that we in my agency call on
very often. But thanks for the call. Thanks for calling in, Kevin,
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and we appreciate you listening. We got just a couple
of seconds here left before we go to break. But
you know, I encourage people to call in and we
can do this whole Ask the sheriff a question thing.
I'm never going to dodge a question. If you've got
something about Weld County, if you got something about law
enforcement in the state of Colorado, I'll try to answer it.
I may not know. I may have to get back
with you by tomorrow. But you can call in at
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three O three seven one three eight two five five,
or you can text Dan at five seven seven three
nine and we'll read your text off the wall here.
So again, you know, it's it's great to have these
callers getting involved. It's great to have people that are
activated and leaning in about Senate Bill three twenty five
zero zero three. But ultimately, in this state, we have
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to make a movement as a Republican Party to bring
balance back if we want to see these things stop,
and we can't do that by calling each other names.
We can't do that by fighting within our own party.
We have to do that standing shoulder to shoulder and
moving forward in the right direction and showing voters that
we have better solutions to their problems, just like you
saw at the national level when Donald Trump won the
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presidency and he's back in office, and I couldn't be
more happy with that. I think we'll cut to break,
and on the other side, we're going to have guest
Matt Turner, who's running to replace me in Weld County,
and he can have it at this point, So we'll
cut to break, and you're listening to The Dan Kapla Show.
Steve Reams filling in for the Big Guy.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Back with the Dan Kaplis Show. We got Steve Raims,
Weld County Sheriff, filling in. And in honor of that
song that Ryan just played, coming back in, we must
announce that the astronauts are back in the terrestrial Earth.
They are I don't think they're walking yet, but they're
unloaded from the spacecraft and they don't look like they're
feeling the greatest, but they got smiles from ear to ear,
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and I can't imagine a better feeling than what they're
going through. I want to hit just a couple of
texts before we get to our next guest. Eric sent
in a text saying, Hey, we've got an event coming up.
Take back the second. It's Saturday, eleven am to two
pm May eighteenth. Oh no, I'm sorry, that was an
old event. He's talking about a flag that I gave him,
a thin blue line flag that I pulled out of
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my back pocket and told him thank you for being
at the event. I know who this Eric is. He's
a great guy. He's just glad to be part of
the process here. And love's listening to the show. Another one, Hey,
sheriff and joined the show so much, great job. And
then actually, Sheriff, you talk about can you talk about
what the los athemous? Let's see what the I don't
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know it's against Oh the how tough it's been to
recruit people over the last five years because some of
the stuff that's happened at the state House. We'll get
to that in a little bit. Well, that's a topic
in and of itself. Maybe we'll cover that a little
bit with our next guest. I hinted to this before
the show start. At the start of the show, I
only have one year, nine months, and eighteen days left
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in office, not that anyone's counting. And there's a young
man who's running to take my place. When I say
young man, he's younger than me, so that's what counts.
He's been with the Wellcounty Sheriff's Office for a little
bit of time, and his name is Matt Turner. We've
got him on the line and I want to introduce
him to you. So, Matt Turner, are you with us?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
I'm with you. How you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm doing great and good talking to you again from
a remote location. I don't have to see your face
all the time, but I get to see it pretty
frequently because we work side by side on a lot
of things. But Matt, you decided that you're going to
a run for sheriff because you must have suffered a
really bad head injury at some point in your life.
And I say that tongue in cheek because I know
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you did suffer a head injury when you were serving
our country. So the give the callers, a little bit
of a background about who you are, why you're running
for sheriff, other than just having a head injury, and
you know what's the calling, Why do you want to
do this and why do you want to carry on
the torch of the Weld County Sheriff's Office.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Go ahead, Matt Hey, thanks very much, Boston. You know,
I'll go ahead and say that I've had a few
head injuries, but man, I'm super happy to serve this community.
This I have grown to love this community. I'm not
a native to Weald County. I came here and I've
been here for the last thirteen years, and I have
loved every second of it. But a lot of that
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has to do with the ethics, the character, and the
mission of Weld County, and I think you're a great
picture of that. So I've had a great time working
for you. I've had a great time serving a citizens.
But I thrive in public service. I working my time
in the military, I developed a love for service, sure,
and it gives me purpose. It gives me a mission.
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Every day when my alarm goes off, I wake up
energized and ready to come to work, and I'm happy
to continue that, but more so, I want to make
sure that our office continues to do that too. And
you know, I'll say this one thing is that I
didn't ever dream of being a politician. I never dreamed
of running for office. It's not something I want. I
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don't want the authority that comes with it. I don't
want the image that comes with it. And honestly, if
there was a person at the office that I saw
who I think would be a better person to run
the office than me, I would support them. I just
don't see that. And we have a rich history of
growing our sheriffs within our office, and I want to
be that next person to make sure that the community
is taken care of. That's my ultimate goal.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, and that's you know. I saw that in you too, Matt.
I think you've you've risen through the ranks of the
Sheriff's office and an amazing amount of time. But I
think that a lot of that comes from your past history.
Tell the callers a little bit about your history before
the Shareff's office, and we're a little limited on time,
so you know the reader's digest version if you will.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, I woke up one Tuesday morning. I didn't have
any direction in life.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I was.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I was twenty three years old. I didn't know what
I was going to do, and that day I decided
to join the military and I joined the United States Army.
I left for Fort Benning, Georgia, and I had quite
the experience. By the time I hit Iraq. I was
a fire team leader and I did nothing. For most
of my time in Iraq led I led a great
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group of guys doing that. They're guys that I still
talked to Matt monthly. But after my time in the
my tour of service in the United States Army, I
came back to Colorado and I served in the Colorado
Army National Guard out of Fort Lefton for three years.
And right around that time, I got the job at
the Sheriff's office and found that new way to serve
and I got out of the military. But every lesson
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that I learned through leadership lesson just tactical lessons in life,
lessons from the military, I've applied to my time in
the Sheriff's office, and like you said, I help it.
I think it helped me escalate very quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, and I know you won't mention this. You're and
this isn't something you wear on your sleeve, but you're
a Purple Heart recipient from your time in Iraq. You
were in a vehicle that hit a roadside bomb and
your your entire crew took it pretty hard. You were
you were able to survive that incident and recover, but
it obviously leaves leaves some lasting scars, both emotionally and physically.
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And you've overcome that and applied what you've what you've
been through to the Sheriff's Office in a in a
great way. So talk a little bit about your talk
a little bit about your experience with the s O.
Just real quick, we only have about thirty seconds.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You know, I jumped around the Sheriff's Office quite a
bit in different, different different areas. I started out as
a deputy in the jail, and I've just tried to
experience as much of the office as I can.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And I, oh, sorry, go ahead, you're running from the
position to Captain Matt. I'm sorry, we're cutting you a
little short. You're gonna have a fundraiserund Thursday night. Go
to his website TURNERF Sheriff dot com And we appreciate
you having you on. You're listening to Dan Caplis with
Steve Riems as the host. You're back with the Dan
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Caplis Show. You got Steve Rieims welcoming Sheriff filling in
today and again, it's just an honor to be helping
keep Dan's show on the rails, or at least trying to.
I'm trying not to crash the corvette and run it
into the wall, but he gave me the keys, so
I feel like I'm I'm gonna have to at least
bring it back with a couple of scratches and maybe
a dent. So it's cool sitting here and getting to
be on the other side of the stereo, I guess,
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or the radio if you will, actually putting the show
out instead of just listening to it. Because I'm a
big fan of the Dan Caplis Show and the show
before that, the Ryan Shuling Show. So this is kind
of a bucket list thing for me today, a lot
of fun, to be honest with you. We didn't get
much time with the last guest, and I want to
make sure in that final segment that I put out
just a little bit of his information because it's important
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to me to see a good candidate get elected in
Weld County for the office of Sheriff. I am term limited.
I am happy to be leaving. It's not that the
job hasn't been great, but it's time for some new
faces and new blood, and I think Matt Turner is
going to be a great candidate for that office. But
we're going to transition just a little bit now to
another former law enforcement guy, Ryan Armagos. He is the
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representative for HD sixty four. He's also the minority whip,
which has to come with some really cool accouterments. I
hope he's like Indiana Jones looking. But Ryan, are you
on the line with us? And how you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Yes, sir, thank you, Sheriff, I'm doing it. How are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm doing great. Ryan. Do you get to carry an
actual whip with you down at the State House, because
I feel like that could be pretty handy.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
I don't I would probably be sort of the probing
the ethical issue, ever be you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Probably end up wanting to use that in a way
that's not most advantageous to your career. But Ryan, you know,
I know you pretty well. I know when you got
into into this seed. I know kind of some of
your motivations for running to be a state rep. But
the callers are the listeners may not, So what made
you decide to switch gears and say, you know what,
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I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and run
for HD sixty four and represent some great people in
northern Colorado, mostly that birthed area. But just tell us
how you got to where you're at.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Absolutely five years ago, I never would have said I'd
be in any kind of elected position. But I came
from career, military and law enforcement, just like who you're
talking about with Kevin Turner. But I didn't have any
anything other than service. I think between military a I
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served a couple of years as a firefighter in Evans
and then went into law enforcement larmer chemist sheriff's office,
and after twenty twenty kind of the negative turn toward
law enforcement is really what led me there. Well, there
was a steep turn toward holding up the criminal and
holding down the victims, and you know, the people that
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are just trying to live their lives from day to day,
go to work and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do their thing.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
So that's what got me a lot more politically vocal
in twenty twenty. And then come twenty twenty one, I
started getting very politically driven, and that's when I was
running for or looking for an opportunity to run for something,
and it just so happened they redistricted and there was
a new house Distory sixty four that opened up and
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threw my hat in the ring, and it seemed like
it was just kind of paid from there on out.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So right, So, Ryan, you know, I think it's important
to highlight your background. You do have some law enforcement experience,
you do have some great military experience, and you bring
that with you to the job. But you hinted on
something that one of the callers had talked about before,
and it's basically, how tough has the world of law enforcement?
Then in the state of Colorado? Why are things so
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upside down? And you can probably speak to it better
than anyone because you're down at the place where all
where I think all the responsibility lies for why law
enforcement has gotten so upside down in the state of Colorado.
You described why you wanted to activate and get involved
in politics, and it was, if I'm not speaking out
of turn, probably sent it Bill two seventeen. But those
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same legislators are those same types of legislators have continued
to push the anti law enforcement narrative. How do you
see it down there? How does it feel being down
in that house and hearing that rhetoric that goes on,
and what do you do to fight back?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Absolutely, there's this level of just anti law enforcement, anti authority,
and that's what really got me more motivated once I
started visiting the capitol and really seeing what the tone
was down there. And since then, it's only seeming like
it's been getting progressively worse from year to year. This
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year it seems like it's definitely the worst. And like
you said, since two seventeen came around, there have been
other methods of that, if not tying the hands of
law enforcement, making their job more restrictive and more bureaucratic
to be able to make a simple split second decisions
that are required by a law enforcement officer minute to minute.
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So I think it's just made it to where it's
hard to be a cop in Colorado. There's you know,
retention became an issue. There was really nothing until you know,
when the new proposition came out for the voters to
decide that they wanted to refund law enforcement and give
them the ability to get back to where they were,
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the incentive to provide the training that is now obviously
required by the state. But it's just been it's been
very hard to counter that. Being in the minority, we
only had a few me and Gabe Evans who were
the two law enforcement prior law enforcement officers in the Capitol.
Now it's just done to me, it's and seemed moved
gone up to Congress. But it's been the challenge just
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having that ability to speak for law enforcement and constantly
listen to just the negative rhetoric and the negative outlook
from a lot of the legislators down there on law
and toward me.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I can't imagine what you hear and how frustrating it
can be. And you know, you transition from that to
some of the other bills that I think you know,
we're seeing in this legislative session. We've talked about Senate
Bill three, but you're in the fight down there. You're
on some of those committees that are having the discussions
about Senate Bill three and how that travels through the House.
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How frustrating is it to you to see this obvious
gun grab, this terrible bill push through and to listen
to the testimony. I mean, how do you how do
you how do you digest that? How do you push
back and kind of what's your thought process of where
this thing ends up.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Well, it's just this is one of I think there's
twenty three I believe anti bills coming to legislatures this year.
But yeah, that's the most egregious and atrocious that we've
had in Colorado history of non American history. And it's
morphed so many times. Every time it's been read, it's
morphed into something different, and this more the most recent
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one became an all out attack on gun owners. Anyone
that wants to purchase any any firearm. Basically they have
to now pay their way into owning a firearm. So
they have to go through some sort of training, whether
it be hunter education or a twelve hour course that
would end up being a two day training that they
would have to attend just to be able to purchase
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a firearm. But beyond that, it became a slap in
the face to law enforcement because not only are they
putting this on Colorado parks and lid life that is
not funded for that, and definitely not employee. They don't
have the employees to do this. They barely have enough
to do hunter education, so doing making it an unfunded
mandate for the county Sheriff's to Calleretto, it's basically going
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to come on them to do the fingerprints in the
background without any funding from the state, So they're going
to have to eat that cost as kind of a
slap in the base to law enforcement, the Colorado Parks
and Wildlife and the hunters, because this is going to
comeout of licensing toes to get your hunting license, so
it's not going to be very dismantling for hunters, iron owners,
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and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I always say when a bill has to take multiple
pages to figure out how to strip away your rights
and really doesn't ever tackle anything dealing with, you know,
how you're going to reduce crime or how you're going
to increase public safety, the bill's probably a bad bill.
This one's eighteen pages long in its current version. It's
eighteen pages of well, I won't say what I want
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to say, but on page seventeen there's a portion there
that it drives me crazy more than anything because it
basically says, hey, the Attorney General has the ability to
go in and kind of make decisions about what they
think the intent this bill is if anything is to
ever come into question. I know that's not in a
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lot of bills, but it's in this bill, and that
can't even I mean, that gives the attorney general power
in my mind that they just shouldn't be seated.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Absolutely, And that's obviously another partisan seat where I can
go either direction, and we obviously know what direction that
would go in the current in Colorado administration.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, you know, Ryan, I can't tell you that I
envy the position that you're in because when you were
running for that I may have asked you if you
were crazy, but you've proven that you are because you're
in your second term down there, you're fighting the fight.
You are a voice of reason when it comes to
gun bills. We appreciate the fact that you're down there
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trying to do everything you can. We hope that we
keep adding Republican seats down there, because Republicans really do
have the solutions to a lot of these problems, and
the Democrats just keep making life harder in the way
I see it. Do you have any closing comments you
want to leave us with any bills that we should
be on the lookout for. Just we'll close out with
whatever you have to provide to the listeners.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
There's definitely a lot more coming. I think the biggest
thing for people to do is just get involved. I
think it's scary when people don't know that these builts
are coming until they're already they've already become law. Right,
getting involved, Getting in touch with your legislator, even if
it's not somebody that is on the same side you
vote on, but at least getting getting in touch with
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a legislator that you know you can get information from
and valid information from on what's coming. Just to stay
in touch, stand the know, and be forward looking on
what's coming down before it has already become law and
it's already affecting you. So getting involved in the capital
as much as you can is definitely important for everybody
to come on down and get your voice heard in
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the people's house and right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
If people want to follow you, I assume you're on Facebook,
X all those places. You got a website you want
to throw out real quick? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Rep.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Ryan armagust On on X Representative Ryan and armagust on
Facebook and also Ryan armagost for RAC sixty four on Facebook.
And yeah, Ryan, Armagos dot or sorry armagsfrast sixty four
dot com is the website so everyone can kind of
see where we're at on any given moment. You can
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send up with my newsletters and anything there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Great, Ryan, we appreciate you you being on. I know
you personally, and you're not a guy who's got a
lot of words a lot of time. You're very you're
very quiet, you're very thoughtful, you keep your conversation short,
and so bringing you on the radio is probably outside
of your comfort zone. But I really appreciate you being on.
I really appreciate you educating the listeners and just thanks
for your time and thanks for what you do down
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there at the stay House. We appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Thanks for everything you do. I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You bet so we'll got we're going to cut to break.
We'll come back in this last segment and kind of
do a mop up and clean up the mess I've made.
Ryan's laughing because he's kind thinking right now, you should
throw this guy out of the booth. But regardless, you
listen to the Dan Kaples Show. You got Steve Rims
as a guest host, and we'll be back in just
a few.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Music musical entrance in honor of House Minority Whip Ryan
Arma Gost You said that.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
I'm reminded of the scene where the samurai guy shows
up and raiders at Lastar.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
He's got all these.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Moves, he's showing off the sword and then he just
busts up the gun and blows them away.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I think it's a forty four that he pulls.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Out and just stevens the score certainly did.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great scene.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
But do you guys know the story behind that scene?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:47):
No, you should tell us that, you really should. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
So Harrison Ford had dysentery what and so he had
lived that scene because he was feeling so bad that
he basically, you know, let the guy do all of
his stuff and then he just love it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, you couldn't have written it any better. No, Right,
that's that's such a memorable scene out of you know,
a movie from my generation.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
Doesn't it surprise me either with Harrison Ford because there's,
you know, the long standing observation that George Lucas is
really poor at writing dialogue. And especially romantic dialogue with
real stilted like he'd.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Never spoken to a girl before.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
So at the end of Empire strikes Back spoiler alert,
Princess Leah, as Hans Solo is being lowered into the carbonite,
says I love you, and the original script says I
love you too, and then Harrison Ford's like, Han Solo
wouldn't say that, So he just looks back and goes,
I know, and that is totally a Han Solo respect.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That is right. The other way, it doesn't work the
other way, it's too cheesy. Well, so you know, this
is like the fastest two hours I think I've ever
had in my life.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
That's a good sign, let me tell you.
Speaker 11 (31:55):
Yeah, it went great, But you do have to break
an argument that that we have had here.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Like she knows she's wrong.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
She's an anti American communist because she hates both chocolate
and bacon.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
What the exactly, See, I almost had to dump you there.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
Yeah, No, that's the Seriously, that's not what I was
going to say.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Chocolate covered bacon, Yes, it's awesome, sweet and savor. Okay,
so what's the tiebreaker going on?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
I was talking about barbecue.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Oh no, yeah, she Again, this doesn't help your cause
either doesn't like chocolate, doesn't like bacon, doesn't like barbecue,
smoke meats of any kind.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So I grew up in Texas. Barbecue is a whole
food group.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
O lord, and they do not have good not helping.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
They do not have good barbecue in Colorado. Well, I'm
going to give you a pass because you've probably never
had really good barbecue from California.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
So communists, obviously, Sheriff, you think that Texas barbecue is
the best, better than Memphis, better than Saint louis better
than Carolina, right.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, I don't know if I think it's I
love it. I love it, but you know, they're all
a little different. It doesn't mean I don't like those
others though. Good barbecue is good barbecue, but there is
a difference in all of them. I mean, I've been
to Kansas City and they do it right there too,
But Texas has that that smoky you know, rich, It's
it's so good.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
What do you go with, Like, you go to a
barbecue restaurant, what's your go to order? Oh it's brisket,
absolutely brisket. Yeah, good stuff, burn ins too, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The best. But honestly, in Kansas City, I think they
did the burned ins better there, So.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Okay, I think, I okay, that doesn't help at all
this conversation. Well, I'm just telling it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
At least you didn't say a corn dog.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Oh love, oh boy, barbecue loves corn dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So I don't know how you know. I was afraid
I was going to derail the show. Now look what
has happened. It's all her fun. Well, well, just clean
up here a little bit, you know it was. It
was a fun day with everybody. I didn't get to
have Matt Turner on as long as i'd like, but
I do want to plug his website. You can go
to his website at Turner turnerfor sheriff dot com. He's
having a fundraiser on Thursday night. He'd probably love to
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have some donations and some people attending. And I want
to see him get elected. I fully endorse him, and
I hope the people of Weald County will too. This
has been a pleasure. I'm signing off on the Dan
Kaplas Show Steve Raims as guest host,
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
You're back in hour two of The Dan Caplis Show,
and no I am not Dan Kaplis. You're listening to Weld,
Kenny Sheriff Steve Reims. I'm honored to be able to
guest host this wonderful show, one that I am a
big fan of. I love listening to Dan and Ryan
before him any day I can. In law enforcement, sometimes
your days are a little unpredictable, but I do spend
a lot of time in a car, and so that
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gives me an opportunity to listen to some of the
best talk radio in the nation, I think right here
in Colorado. So we had a little bit of time
in this first segment that I want to get to
some of the callers. But if we want to load
the line, the numbers three oh three seven one, three eight,
two five five. You can also also text in at
five seven seven three nine. Just start your text with
Dan so I know it's aimed at me or Dan
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in any other day. But we have a caller from Pueblo.
I think he's been waiting the longest.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Matt, Yes, sir, thank you, Sheriff Steve, appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Just one thing. It's just near and.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Dear to my heart and kind of took a little
issue with what the congresswoman said. But the current SB
twenty five zor iSER A three.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I think it's more important that we educate people about
the Colorado Constitution. At the federal level, the second amendment
is that the federal government shall make no law. But
I believe it's an Article two, section thirteen of the
state Constitution. It says that the right of no person
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to keep in bare arms in defense of her home, person,
or property paraphrasing flightly shall be called into question. The
sbive it definitely does.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It definitely calls that into question.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Doesn't it exactly?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And the taxes if you go back to Article one,
section three, I believe the inalienable right to acquire property.
Now you're you're basically putting a poll tax right on
gun and ammunition to exercise our right. So at the
federal level, I think it should be more of a
fourteenth Amendment issue that protects US from the states. They
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do have ninth to tenth Amendment rights, but it's already
in our Constitution that guns and defense are inalienable. Right,
I'm sorry, my dog, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And Dodd's passionate about the Second Amendment too, so that's okay.
So Matt, I couldn't agree with you more. I do
have a question for you, though, being done in Publuo,
I mean, what's the tone of the community down there?
I mean, I know Weld County thinks this bill stinks,
and I can I think I can even speak for
that on on the basis of a lot of Democrats
that don't support this bill. Pablo is a more Democrat
area than Weld. But what are your neighbors saying, What
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do your friends saying? What do they think of this bill?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, all the.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
People I know and associate with agree, and I'm encouraging
them to look at it at the cot at the
state level as well. Yeah, but you know, clearly everybody
agrees there's no standing under the Second Amendment for sus.
This where I'm at, honestly, it's I also since i've
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I've only been here about six years myself, since I
got transferred from Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know the feeling here, so.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I'm still going through a little bit of culture shock.
But most of them, said, most of the folks I know,
even like you said, yet the Democrats as well understand
how important this is.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, Matt, I moved here from Texas and nineteen ninety five,
and when I moved to Colorado, I thought, uh, Colorado
was very much like Texas, but with a better view,
and that has definitely changed over the years. The view
is still nice well, as long as you look towards
the mountains. If you look towards downtown Denver, it's awful
at this point. But they yeah, no, it's You've got
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a great view down there too. But Matt, we got
to keep fighting the fight. This bill's not over yet.
I appreciate the call in, and you know you keep
rallying the troops down there. I tell you what, Emailing
and calling the governor's office and urging him to veto
this bill is probably our best bet at this point.
But thanks for listening, and get your dog on the
phone too.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Good job.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Share That sounds good, Thank you, sir. So you know
I think statewide. There's there's going to be a pushback
to this bill. We know it's probably going to get
you know, there's probably going to be some kind of
lawsuit filed. In fact, we may have a guest on
tomorrow and Ian Escalante with the Rocky Mountain gun owners
that's planning to do just that. But you know, it
ever hurts for your governor to hear from you, and
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whether that's you're a Democrat voter, you're a Republican voter,
those calls, those those messages, they do matter, and when
those start stacking up, you know, that gets sometimes that
does get the needle moved. I'm not saying that it's
going to be successful with this particular issue, but it's
about all we got left. So you can't leave you
can't leave that strategy on the table. We have another
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caller on the line, Jennifer from Denver.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
What do you got to say, Jim, Hey, sure, I
was at the World County meeting the first one, okay,
and I was also at the Douglas County one, and
I have some observations between the two counties.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, tell me what you saw.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, first of all, I saw people voting in circles
and circles and circles. But that's another matter. Well, in
Weld County, you know, it was clear that the people
that are reasonable Republicans that want you know, less government,
less taxation and don't go on the crazy bandwagon, we're
definitely I felt like the dominant voice of the meeting,
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and no wonder Weld County is being attacked by the
state GOP.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well it's kind of ironic, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, but the contrast was really interesting in Douglas County.
And the Douglas County meeting was before the Well County run.
And in Douglas County they ran a slate of.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
What I will call the.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Far right because I don't like the name calling and
all of that, the.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Very far right.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
They ran a whole slate. Only two of those on
the slate got elected. So the other two possions they
were more of the reasonable. You know, I guess you
can call them rhinos or what. But it was kind
of an interesting contrast to Weld County.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
When I was at welld.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
County, I mean, I just felt at ease. I felt
like people reasonable, you could talk about things, except for
Lorie saying trotting around and you know, making grand statements
and all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, we'll leave it to that. She's a candidate for GEOP,
for the state GOP chairperson now, so she didn't an
she didn't announce it that that first meeting, but I
guess she's announced since then, and she was a candidate
by the time we had our second election or second meeting,
but she didn't show for that one.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Well, some people just want to be a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Name, right, Well, she's looking for a job.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
So that's office. You can't get elected here, let's run
for the state, right, great.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, I appreciate the feedback.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Oh, go ahead, Yeah, on SB twenty five zero Z three.
Got a question if that passes, which it will probably
go to the court to YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Hopefully it does, but.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
They probably won't set a start dating until September.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So it's sept first. I think September one, if I'm
not mistaken, But yeah, it's in September. You know, there's
no way this can all get into places.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Can I'll go out and buy our AR fifteens and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Correct, you can buy anything up until the point that
that bill is enacted, and you'll have to follow the
current laws, which requires still a background check in a
three day way. This would be on top of that.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Okay, so what's to prevent, you know, a run on
people going and buying these guns? I mean I might
even go buy one, not because I necessarily have a
youth for it, but just because.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
It's my right to own it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, so you hit the nail on the head. And
I think Democrats are the best gun salesman when they
start running this kind of legislation because it makes people
really want to exercise their Second Amendment rights. And Jen,
I I appreciate you calling in. We got another caller
to get to. I think we have Kevin from Boulder
on the line. He says he's got a comment about
the FBI. Kevin, are you with us?
Speaker 7 (08:36):
I'm here, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What's your comment? We just have a few minutes, so
I'll have to ask you to keep it a little brief.
But what do you got? What's what do you? What
are your comments about the FBI?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Would you say that the FBI is a national police force?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't think I would characterize the FBI as a
national police force. Now, I think there are people that
do characterize them as a national police force, but I
think their powers are are limited in scope. I don't
think they can enforce a lot of what you see
local law enforcement dealing with. They have a narrower focus.
But you know, arguments have been made the other way.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
The reason I ask, of course, is that your opinion
or are you speaking legally or constitutionally?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I guess both. I don't. I don't think. I mean,
that's my opinion, and I think that's my interpretation of
what their constitutional authority would be, if you want to
call it that.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I ask, because the Constitution forbids a national police force, right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, And I don't I don't believe that that's what
they represent now. I think they've been weaponized by some
administrations to try to look that way. You know, we
saw that under the last administration, where the FBI was
kind of kind of doing the bidding of someone else
who was pulling the string. So I see where your
concern of them becoming that becoming a slippery slope can
come from. But quite honestly, I've never had a lot
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of interactions with the FBI where they were helpful in
many investigations. Now that's not saying they don't serve a
place and a purpose they have. They have taken some
cases that we were glad to have them around. But
for the most part, Uh, the FBI is is not
somebody that we that we in my agency call on
very often. But thanks for the call. Thanks for calling in, Kevin,
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and we appreciate you listening. We got just a couple
of seconds here left before we go to break. But
you know, I encourage people to call in and we
can do this whole Ask the sheriff a question thing.
I'm never going to dodge a question. If you've got
something about Weld County, if you got something about law
enforcement in the state of Colorado, I'll try to answer it.
I may not know. I may have to get back
with you by tomorrow. But you can call in at
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three O three seven one three eight two five five,
or you can text Dan at five seven seven three
nine and we'll read your text off the wall here.
So again, you know, it's it's great to have these
callers getting involved. It's great to have people that are
activated and leaning in about Senate Bill three twenty five
zero zero three. But ultimately, in this state, we have
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to make a movement as a Republican Party to bring
balance back if we want to see these things stop,
and we can't do that by calling each other names.
We can't do that by fighting within our own party.
We have to do that standing shoulder to shoulder and
moving forward in the right direction and showing voters that
we have better solutions to their problems, just like you
saw at the national level when Donald Trump won the
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presidency and he's back in office, and I couldn't be
more happy with that. I think we'll cut to break,
and on the other side, we're going to have guest
Matt Turner, who's running to replace me in Weld County,
and he can have it at this point, So we'll
cut to break, and you're listening to The Dan Kapla Show.
Steve Reams filling in for the Big Guy.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Back with the Dan Kaplis Show. We got Steve Raims,
Weld County Sheriff, filling in. And in honor of that
song that Ryan just played, coming back in, we must
announce that the astronauts are back in the terrestrial Earth.
They are I don't think they're walking yet, but they're
unloaded from the spacecraft and they don't look like they're
feeling the greatest, but they got smiles from ear to ear,
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and I can't imagine a better feeling than what they're
going through. I want to hit just a couple of
texts before we get to our next guest. Eric sent
in a text saying, Hey, we've got an event coming up.
Take back the second. It's Saturday, eleven am to two
pm May eighteenth. Oh no, I'm sorry, that was an
old event. He's talking about a flag that I gave him,
a thin blue line flag that I pulled out of
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my back pocket and told him thank you for being
at the event. I know who this Eric is. He's
a great guy. He's just glad to be part of
the process here. And love's listening to the show. Another one, Hey,
sheriff and joined the show so much, great job. And
then actually, Sheriff, you talk about can you talk about
what the los athemous? Let's see what the I don't
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know it's against Oh the how tough it's been to
recruit people over the last five years because some of
the stuff that's happened at the state House. We'll get
to that in a little bit. Well, that's a topic
in and of itself. Maybe we'll cover that a little
bit with our next guest. I hinted to this before
the show start. At the start of the show, I
only have one year, nine months, and eighteen days left
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in office, not that anyone's counting. And there's a young
man who's running to take my place. When I say
young man, he's younger than me, so that's what counts.
He's been with the Wellcounty Sheriff's Office for a little
bit of time, and his name is Matt Turner. We've
got him on the line and I want to introduce
him to you. So, Matt Turner, are you with us?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
I'm with you. How you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm doing great and good talking to you again from
a remote location. I don't have to see your face
all the time, but I get to see it pretty
frequently because we work side by side on a lot
of things. But Matt, you decided that you're going to
a run for sheriff because you must have suffered a
really bad head injury at some point in your life.
And I say that tongue in cheek because I know
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you did suffer a head injury when you were serving
our country. So the give the callers, a little bit
of a background about who you are, why you're running
for sheriff, other than just having a head injury, and
you know what's the calling, Why do you want to
do this and why do you want to carry on
the torch of the Weld County Sheriff's Office.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Go ahead, Matt Hey, thanks very much, Boston. You know,
I'll go ahead and say that I've had a few
head injuries, but man, I'm super happy to serve this community.
This I have grown to love this community. I'm not
a native to Weald County. I came here and I've
been here for the last thirteen years, and I have
loved every second of it. But a lot of that
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has to do with the ethics, the character, and the
mission of Weld County, and I think you're a great
picture of that. So I've had a great time working
for you. I've had a great time serving a citizens.
But I thrive in public service. I working my time
in the military, I developed a love for service, sure,
and it gives me purpose. It gives me a mission.
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Every day when my alarm goes off, I wake up
energized and ready to come to work, and I'm happy
to continue that, but more so, I want to make
sure that our office continues to do that too. And
you know, I'll say this one thing is that I
didn't ever dream of being a politician. I never dreamed
of running for office. It's not something I want. I
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don't want the authority that comes with it. I don't
want the image that comes with it. And honestly, if
there was a person at the office that I saw
who I think would be a better person to run
the office than me, I would support them. I just
don't see that. And we have a rich history of
growing our sheriffs within our office, and I want to
be that next person to make sure that the community
is taken care of. That's my ultimate goal.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, and that's you know. I saw that in you too, Matt.
I think you've you've risen through the ranks of the
Sheriff's office and an amazing amount of time. But I
think that a lot of that comes from your past history.
Tell the callers a little bit about your history before
the Shareff's office, and we're a little limited on time,
so you know the reader's digest version if you will.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, I woke up one Tuesday morning. I didn't have
any direction in life.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I was.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I was twenty three years old. I didn't know what
I was going to do, and that day I decided
to join the military and I joined the United States Army.
I left for Fort Benning, Georgia, and I had quite
the experience. By the time I hit Iraq. I was
a fire team leader and I did nothing. For most
of my time in Iraq led I led a great
(16:33):
group of guys doing that. They're guys that I still
talked to Matt monthly. But after my time in the
my tour of service in the United States Army, I
came back to Colorado and I served in the Colorado
Army National Guard out of Fort Lefton for three years.
And right around that time, I got the job at
the Sheriff's office and found that new way to serve
and I got out of the military. But every lesson
(16:55):
that I learned through leadership lesson just tactical lessons in life,
lessons from the military, I've applied to my time in
the Sheriff's office, and like you said, I help it.
I think it helped me escalate very quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, and I know you won't mention this. You're and
this isn't something you wear on your sleeve, but you're
a Purple Heart recipient from your time in Iraq. You
were in a vehicle that hit a roadside bomb and
your your entire crew took it pretty hard. You were
you were able to survive that incident and recover, but
it obviously leaves leaves some lasting scars, both emotionally and physically.
(17:30):
And you've overcome that and applied what you've what you've
been through to the Sheriff's Office in a in a
great way. So talk a little bit about your talk
a little bit about your experience with the s O.
Just real quick, we only have about thirty seconds.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You know, I jumped around the Sheriff's Office quite a
bit in different, different different areas. I started out as
a deputy in the jail, and I've just tried to
experience as much of the office as I can.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And I, oh, sorry, go ahead, you're running from the
position to Captain Matt. I'm sorry, we're cutting you a
little short. You're gonna have a fundraiserund Thursday night. Go
to his website TURNERF Sheriff dot com And we appreciate
you having you on. You're listening to Dan Caplis with
Steve Riems as the host. You're back with the Dan
(18:22):
Caplis Show. You got Steve Rieims welcoming Sheriff filling in
today and again, it's just an honor to be helping
keep Dan's show on the rails, or at least trying to.
I'm trying not to crash the corvette and run it
into the wall, but he gave me the keys, so
I feel like I'm I'm gonna have to at least
bring it back with a couple of scratches and maybe
a dent. So it's cool sitting here and getting to
be on the other side of the stereo, I guess,
(18:44):
or the radio if you will, actually putting the show
out instead of just listening to it. Because I'm a
big fan of the Dan Caplis Show and the show
before that, the Ryan Shuling Show. So this is kind
of a bucket list thing for me today, a lot
of fun, to be honest with you. We didn't get
much time with the last guest, and I want to
make sure in that final segment that I put out
just a little bit of his information because it's important
(19:07):
to me to see a good candidate get elected in
Weld County for the office of Sheriff. I am term limited.
I am happy to be leaving. It's not that the
job hasn't been great, but it's time for some new
faces and new blood, and I think Matt Turner is
going to be a great candidate for that office. But
we're going to transition just a little bit now to
another former law enforcement guy, Ryan Armagos. He is the
(19:31):
representative for HD sixty four. He's also the minority whip,
which has to come with some really cool accouterments. I
hope he's like Indiana Jones looking. But Ryan, are you
on the line with us? And how you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Yes, sir, thank you, Sheriff, I'm doing it. How are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm doing great. Ryan. Do you get to carry an
actual whip with you down at the State House, because
I feel like that could be pretty handy.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
I don't I would probably be sort of the probing
the ethical issue, ever be you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Probably end up wanting to use that in a way
that's not most advantageous to your career. But Ryan, you know,
I know you pretty well. I know when you got
into into this seed. I know kind of some of
your motivations for running to be a state rep. But
the callers are the listeners may not, So what made
you decide to switch gears and say, you know what,
(20:21):
I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and run
for HD sixty four and represent some great people in
northern Colorado, mostly that birthed area. But just tell us
how you got to where you're at.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Absolutely five years ago, I never would have said I'd
be in any kind of elected position. But I came
from career, military and law enforcement, just like who you're
talking about with Kevin Turner. But I didn't have any
anything other than service. I think between military a I
(20:52):
served a couple of years as a firefighter in Evans
and then went into law enforcement larmer chemist sheriff's office,
and after twenty twenty kind of the negative turn toward
law enforcement is really what led me there. Well, there
was a steep turn toward holding up the criminal and
holding down the victims, and you know, the people that
(21:12):
are just trying to live their lives from day to day,
go to work and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do their thing.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
So that's what got me a lot more politically vocal
in twenty twenty. And then come twenty twenty one, I
started getting very politically driven, and that's when I was
running for or looking for an opportunity to run for something,
and it just so happened they redistricted and there was
a new house Distory sixty four that opened up and
(21:38):
threw my hat in the ring, and it seemed like
it was just kind of paid from there on out.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So right, So, Ryan, you know, I think it's important
to highlight your background. You do have some law enforcement experience,
you do have some great military experience, and you bring
that with you to the job. But you hinted on
something that one of the callers had talked about before,
and it's basically, how tough has the world of law enforcement?
Then in the state of Colorado? Why are things so
(22:02):
upside down? And you can probably speak to it better
than anyone because you're down at the place where all
where I think all the responsibility lies for why law
enforcement has gotten so upside down in the state of Colorado.
You described why you wanted to activate and get involved
in politics, and it was, if I'm not speaking out
of turn, probably sent it Bill two seventeen. But those
(22:25):
same legislators are those same types of legislators have continued
to push the anti law enforcement narrative. How do you
see it down there? How does it feel being down
in that house and hearing that rhetoric that goes on,
and what do you do to fight back?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Absolutely, there's this level of just anti law enforcement, anti authority,
and that's what really got me more motivated once I
started visiting the capitol and really seeing what the tone
was down there. And since then, it's only seeming like
it's been getting progressively worse from year to year. This
(23:00):
year it seems like it's definitely the worst. And like
you said, since two seventeen came around, there have been
other methods of that, if not tying the hands of
law enforcement, making their job more restrictive and more bureaucratic
to be able to make a simple split second decisions
that are required by a law enforcement officer minute to minute.
(23:21):
So I think it's just made it to where it's
hard to be a cop in Colorado. There's you know,
retention became an issue. There was really nothing until you know,
when the new proposition came out for the voters to
decide that they wanted to refund law enforcement and give
them the ability to get back to where they were,
(23:44):
the incentive to provide the training that is now obviously
required by the state. But it's just been it's been
very hard to counter that. Being in the minority, we
only had a few me and Gabe Evans who were
the two law enforcement prior law enforcement officers in the Capitol.
Now it's just done to me, it's and seemed moved
gone up to Congress. But it's been the challenge just
(24:06):
having that ability to speak for law enforcement and constantly
listen to just the negative rhetoric and the negative outlook
from a lot of the legislators down there on law
and toward me.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I can't imagine what you hear and how frustrating it
can be. And you know, you transition from that to
some of the other bills that I think you know,
we're seeing in this legislative session. We've talked about Senate
Bill three, but you're in the fight down there. You're
on some of those committees that are having the discussions
about Senate Bill three and how that travels through the House.
(24:39):
How frustrating is it to you to see this obvious
gun grab, this terrible bill push through and to listen
to the testimony. I mean, how do you how do
you how do you digest that? How do you push
back and kind of what's your thought process of where
this thing ends up.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Well, it's just this is one of I think there's
twenty three I believe anti bills coming to legislatures this year.
But yeah, that's the most egregious and atrocious that we've
had in Colorado history of non American history. And it's
morphed so many times. Every time it's been read, it's
morphed into something different, and this more the most recent
(25:16):
one became an all out attack on gun owners. Anyone
that wants to purchase any any firearm. Basically they have
to now pay their way into owning a firearm. So
they have to go through some sort of training, whether
it be hunter education or a twelve hour course that
would end up being a two day training that they
would have to attend just to be able to purchase
(25:38):
a firearm. But beyond that, it became a slap in
the face to law enforcement because not only are they
putting this on Colorado parks and lid life that is
not funded for that, and definitely not employee. They don't
have the employees to do this. They barely have enough
to do hunter education, so doing making it an unfunded
mandate for the county Sheriff's to Calleretto, it's basically going
(26:01):
to come on them to do the fingerprints in the
background without any funding from the state, So they're going
to have to eat that cost as kind of a
slap in the base to law enforcement, the Colorado Parks
and Wildlife and the hunters, because this is going to
comeout of licensing toes to get your hunting license, so
it's not going to be very dismantling for hunters, iron owners,
(26:22):
and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I always say when a bill has to take multiple
pages to figure out how to strip away your rights
and really doesn't ever tackle anything dealing with, you know,
how you're going to reduce crime or how you're going
to increase public safety, the bill's probably a bad bill.
This one's eighteen pages long in its current version. It's
eighteen pages of well, I won't say what I want
(26:44):
to say, but on page seventeen there's a portion there
that it drives me crazy more than anything because it
basically says, hey, the Attorney General has the ability to
go in and kind of make decisions about what they
think the intent this bill is if anything is to
ever come into question. I know that's not in a
(27:04):
lot of bills, but it's in this bill, and that
can't even I mean, that gives the attorney general power
in my mind that they just shouldn't be seated.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Absolutely, And that's obviously another partisan seat where I can
go either direction, and we obviously know what direction that
would go in the current in Colorado administration.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, you know, Ryan, I can't tell you that I
envy the position that you're in because when you were
running for that I may have asked you if you
were crazy, but you've proven that you are because you're
in your second term down there, you're fighting the fight.
You are a voice of reason when it comes to
gun bills. We appreciate the fact that you're down there
(27:46):
trying to do everything you can. We hope that we
keep adding Republican seats down there, because Republicans really do
have the solutions to a lot of these problems, and
the Democrats just keep making life harder in the way
I see it. Do you have any closing comments you
want to leave us with any bills that we should
be on the lookout for. Just we'll close out with
whatever you have to provide to the listeners.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
There's definitely a lot more coming. I think the biggest
thing for people to do is just get involved. I
think it's scary when people don't know that these builts
are coming until they're already they've already become law. Right,
getting involved, Getting in touch with your legislator, even if
it's not somebody that is on the same side you
vote on, but at least getting getting in touch with
(28:30):
a legislator that you know you can get information from
and valid information from on what's coming. Just to stay
in touch, stand the know, and be forward looking on
what's coming down before it has already become law and
it's already affecting you. So getting involved in the capital
as much as you can is definitely important for everybody
to come on down and get your voice heard in
(28:50):
the people's house and right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
If people want to follow you, I assume you're on Facebook,
X all those places. You got a website you want
to throw out real quick? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Rep.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Ryan armagust On on X Representative Ryan and armagust on
Facebook and also Ryan armagost for RAC sixty four on Facebook.
And yeah, Ryan, Armagos dot or sorry armagsfrast sixty four
dot com is the website so everyone can kind of
see where we're at on any given moment. You can
(29:22):
send up with my newsletters and anything there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Great, Ryan, we appreciate you you being on. I know
you personally, and you're not a guy who's got a
lot of words a lot of time. You're very you're
very quiet, you're very thoughtful, you keep your conversation short,
and so bringing you on the radio is probably outside
of your comfort zone. But I really appreciate you being on.
I really appreciate you educating the listeners and just thanks
for your time and thanks for what you do down
(29:45):
there at the stay House. We appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Thanks for everything you do. I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You bet so we'll got we're going to cut to break.
We'll come back in this last segment and kind of
do a mop up and clean up the mess I've made.
Ryan's laughing because he's kind thinking right now, you should
throw this guy out of the booth. But regardless, you
listen to the Dan Kaples Show. You got Steve Rims
as a guest host, and we'll be back in just
a few.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Music musical entrance in honor of House Minority Whip Ryan
Arma Gost You said that.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
I'm reminded of the scene where the samurai guy shows
up and raiders at Lastar.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
He's got all these.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Moves, he's showing off the sword and then he just
busts up the gun and blows them away.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I think it's a forty four that he pulls.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Out and just stevens the score certainly did.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great scene.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
But do you guys know the story behind that scene?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:47):
No, you should tell us that, you really should. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
So Harrison Ford had dysentery what and so he had
lived that scene because he was feeling so bad that
he basically, you know, let the guy do all of
his stuff and then he just love it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, you couldn't have written it any better. No, Right,
that's that's such a memorable scene out of you know,
a movie from my generation.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
Doesn't it surprise me either with Harrison Ford because there's,
you know, the long standing observation that George Lucas is
really poor at writing dialogue. And especially romantic dialogue with
real stilted like he'd.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Never spoken to a girl before.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
So at the end of Empire strikes Back spoiler alert,
Princess Leah, as Hans Solo is being lowered into the carbonite,
says I love you, and the original script says I
love you too, and then Harrison Ford's like, Han Solo
wouldn't say that, So he just looks back and goes,
I know, and that is totally a Han Solo respect.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That is right. The other way, it doesn't work the
other way, it's too cheesy. Well, so you know, this
is like the fastest two hours I think I've ever
had in my life.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
That's a good sign, let me tell you.
Speaker 11 (31:55):
Yeah, it went great, But you do have to break
an argument that that we have had here.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Like she knows she's wrong.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
She's an anti American communist because she hates both chocolate
and bacon.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
What the exactly, See, I almost had to dump you there.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
Yeah, No, that's the Seriously, that's not what I was
going to say.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Chocolate covered bacon, Yes, it's awesome, sweet and savor. Okay,
so what's the tiebreaker going on?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
I was talking about barbecue.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Oh no, yeah, she Again, this doesn't help your cause
either doesn't like chocolate, doesn't like bacon, doesn't like barbecue,
smoke meats of any kind.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So I grew up in Texas. Barbecue is a whole
food group.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
O lord, and they do not have good not helping.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
They do not have good barbecue in Colorado. Well, I'm
going to give you a pass because you've probably never
had really good barbecue from California.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
So communists, obviously, Sheriff, you think that Texas barbecue is
the best, better than Memphis, better than Saint louis better
than Carolina, right.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, I don't know if I think it's I
love it. I love it, but you know, they're all
a little different. It doesn't mean I don't like those
others though. Good barbecue is good barbecue, but there is
a difference in all of them. I mean, I've been
to Kansas City and they do it right there too,
But Texas has that that smoky you know, rich, It's
it's so good.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
What do you go with, Like, you go to a
barbecue restaurant, what's your go to order? Oh it's brisket,
absolutely brisket. Yeah, good stuff, burn ins too, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The best. But honestly, in Kansas City, I think they
did the burned ins better there, So.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Okay, I think, I okay, that doesn't help at all
this conversation. Well, I'm just telling it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
At least you didn't say a corn dog.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Oh love, oh boy, barbecue loves corn dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So I don't know how you know. I was afraid
I was going to derail the show. Now look what
has happened. It's all her fun. Well, well, just clean
up here a little bit, you know it was. It
was a fun day with everybody. I didn't get to
have Matt Turner on as long as i'd like, but
I do want to plug his website. You can go
to his website at Turner turnerfor sheriff dot com. He's
having a fundraiser on Thursday night. He'd probably love to
(34:05):
have some donations and some people attending. And I want
to see him get elected. I fully endorse him, and
I hope the people of Weald County will too. This
has been a pleasure. I'm signing off on the Dan
Kaplas Show Steve Raims as guest host,
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