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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're listening to the Dan Kapla Show, but obviously you're
not hearing Dan today. You've got Sheriff Steve Riims from
Weld County, Colorado that's filling in, and I feel like
it's almost like someone's giving me the keys to Dan's
old corvette. I'm driving this big, fancy hot rod here
at the K House Studios, and it's a little overwhelming,
(00:36):
to be honest with you, because you know, I tune
in as often as I can. I try to listen
to Dan. I try to listen to Ryan almost daily,
So sitting in the seat is it's kind of a
big deal to me. I don't even know how to
put it other than that it feels like the studio
is really hot right now, but that's all fun.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I think it has the lowest temperature setting in there.
I do that intentionally for myself, but I'll make sure
Kelly'll come in right now.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, it's good. I'm just I'm playing around. But you know,
it is an honor to be filling in for Dan.
I know he's got some important work going this week,
and we'll try to make sure we make the show
as exciting as possible, but also keep it on the rails.
To be honest. When Dan texted last week saying that,
you know, he'd like for me to potentially do some
fill in work, I thought, well, he'd maybe had a
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head injury, he'd maybe been in a car crash. I
was thinking, you know, the guy's baby, he's drunk. I
don't know. But a couple of days go by and
he texts me again and says, here's some dates. What
do you think? And apparently he recovered from his head
injury and still decided that this was a good idea.
So here we are. I'm filling in. We've got a
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bunch of guests lined up for today and tomorrow because
you're gonna have to deal with me for that day too.
And obviously, as a law enforcement officer, as I said
at the end of Ryan Show, there are some things
that interest me and they probably interest you as well,
especially if you live in the state of Colorado. We're
dealing with a barrage of gun legislation that's hit this
state for the last I don't know, ten years, probably
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twenty thirteen when the magazine ban started, So I guess
twelve years now. Gosh, it goes by so fast. I
guess that's what happens when you're having a good time.
But on top of that, we've had a giant shift
in the way that this state operates when it comes
to dealing with criminals. We've almost we've almost villainized law enforcement,
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and we've made the criminals the victims of the system.
And I say that as a law enforcement officer because
I never thought the table would be so tilted in
the favor of the criminal, and yet here we are.
So we're going to talk a little bit of that,
how that slide happened. And you can't talk about all
this shift in the environment surrounding Colorado, and I guess
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the lack of following the law without talking about how
it happened. We lost power as Republicans at the state House,
and the Democrats gave us exactly what we didn't want.
So we're going to talk. We're going to talk politics.
We're going to talk Republican politics. And we're going to
have a guest on here pretty quickly who some of
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you may have heard of. You may know him through
some social media circles, but he's a young man. He
truly does represent the beginning of that next wave of
Republicans and he's the new GOP chairman in Weld County.
I think you're going to love hearing from the guy.
He's young, he's energetic, he's got a lot of great ideas,
and he's he's already moved himself up to a pretty
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high level in Republican politics. We're going to have Lauren
Boward on a little later in the show. We'll have
a candidate for sheriff in Wild County. I have an
expiration date. My term expires in one year, nine months,
in eighteen days. At anyone's county say it isn't so, Steve,
It's coming to an end. And I'm okay with that.
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At twelve years as sheriff is enough, and you know
the fifteen years before that is as a person inside
the agency. That stacks up to quite a bit of time.
So we're going to have Matt Turner on. He's going
to tell you about his run for sheriff and kind
of the eye opening experience that's been not only in
jumping into the realm of politics, but also going down
to the State House and testifying on some bills and
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just seeing what that tone is down at the State
House as it pertains to Republicans, as it pertains to
gun laws, but mostly as it pertains to law enforcement.
And we're also going to have State Rep. Ryan armagust
On again later in the show. He is a gun
fighter down at the I say that figuratively, not literally,
but if given the opportunity, he probably wouldn't shy away
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from a gunfight to defend good men and women here
in this state. But he's going to come on and
talk a little bit about some of the same stuff.
So we've got a heavy show ahead of us. It's
going to be a great time. But before we start
bringing on any of these guests, I kind of want
to set the stage with what's been happening with the
GOP in the state of Colorado. We've had a lot
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of chairm and races that have come and gone over
the last two years. We've got this heated mess that's
happening right now with I think five or six candidates
that are running to replace Dave Williams. But really where
the start and end of all of this what i'll
call topsy turvy stuff in the state of Colorado is
through this last couple of years with the Republican Party,
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and that's under the leadership of Dave Williams. I'm not
trying to take a side on either one either way,
but Dave Williams definitely is a lightning rod and he's
done some things that no other party chairman has done
in the past. He's endorsed candidates during the primary, He's
run for office himself. There's some questions about where some
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of the state funding went. And most recently, he got
very involved in the Weld County process for picking our
new leadership and picking our new delegates to go to
the state reorganization meeting. So that really impacted the way
our new party chairman got elected. And I have to
set that up so that he can tell his story
when he it's on the air. Quite frankly, it's a
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head scratcher as to how we got here as a
Republican Party. We went from a state that has probably
always been purple, but we had some influence in this
state as Republicans, not just statewide but county, you know,
at the county level and at the city level, and
there's just a few bastions of hope that are still
hanging on by a thread. Weald County is still strongly read.
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Elpaso County is still pretty red. There's a few others,
Mason County on the western slope, I think Jefferson is lost,
and several others. So we're really trying to hold on
to those strongholds and build from there. And we have
a young man that's he's a great building block for
Weald County in my opinion, as a young man and
a figuratively and literally coming into the party. You know,
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he's got a new vision for where Republicans can go.
And I'm so excited to see a seed change that
hopefully will start in Welld County and kind of grow
its way across the state of color. Autumn, there's been
pockets of hope. I think Weld County is still that
pocket of hope. We flipped some seats ced eight. Gabe
Evans took a seat that started up blue and turned
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it red, and we took a Senate district thirteen seat
that had gone blue, it's back to red. And then
the HD fifty seat that had been blue forever and
it finally went red. That's the area that if you
live in northern Colorado, you know it surrounds UNC. It's
right there around the college and it's been a blue
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stronghold until this last session. And we finally got a
young man in there, Hispanic man, Ryan Gonzalez, and he's
doing a great job. So it's great to just see
that that seed change happen and just start seeing a
different influence down at the State House. Ryan, Am I
seeing this right? There's a caller on the line.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're working on that behind the scenes. But I do
have a question for you before we go to break.
You can't answer it however you would like. But after
twelve years, there's the sheriff in Wild County. I've had
some off air conversations exchanges with you about what might
be next for you. Would you consider a run in
politics for another office or is this something where you
might just kind of stay on the sidelines right off
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into the sunset and do your own thing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I would never rule everything completely out, but
I am not That's not where my focus is. You know,
with the Trump administration, there's some potential opportunities there, so
I'm exploring where that might lead. But you know, I'm
going to figure out what I want to be when
I grow up in one year, nine months, in eighteen days.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, you know, as as anybody who's been in politics
can tell you, it ages you in dog years. But
if you're in politics and you're a sheriff, it ages
you tenfold. I feel like I'm I look like I'm seventy,
but I'm only forty nine. So go with that. It
looks like we have Hunter Rivera on the line. Now, Okay,
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we're going to go to break. As soon as we
come back from break, we'll get with Hunter Rivera. And
he's a phenomenal young man. You're gonna love hearing what
he has to deliver. I'm just so proud to see
a new wave coming into Weld County and I think
I think Hunter is going to do a fantastic job
in leading the Weld County GOP in a new and
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aggressive direction.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What a song to come back to? On The Dan
Kapla Show, You're listening to Steve Reams today. I'm filling
in for Dan, but that is one of my favorite
songs and it was even before I got into law enforcement.
Maybe that was the Swan song and the call in
something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now, which one do you prefer, Sheriff the Clashes version
that you just heard or the original Bobby Fuller for.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I actually prefer the Bobby Fuller version, Okay, but I
like this one too.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I'll have that one when we come back from the
next break.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That sounds great. So before we went to break, I
was kind of preluding what we were going to be
talking about in this segment, and that's the new Well
County GOP chairman. For the rest of you around the state,
you say, yeah, what about the Weld County GOP chairman
doesn't affect me, But it really does. You know, we
had a new wave of leadership coming into the to
the GOP, and if we're going to talk about where
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we can go in the future, we need young faces,
we need young ideas, and Hunter represents that. So with
us on the line is Hunter Rivera, the newly elected
GOP chairman for Weld County. Hunter, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, thanks, for having me on.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Sir, you bet Hunter, Before we get started, I got
an email a few days ago, and it's from a
little known organization called Rhino Watch. And in that in
that email, it gave basically, like a few subtitles are heading,
it said, well, County Rhinos refused to let dozens of
Trump volunteers into their so called big tent, crazed by
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Dave Derange derangement syndrome. And then it goes down It's
not Dave they hate, it's you. And then another section
forty volunteers turned down. And then the last the last
section calls out several elected officials who allegedly revealed themselves
to be rhinos, one of those including myself on the list,
which I find comical. I've been called everything under the
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sun working in law enforcement for twenty seven years, and
I've spent several of those years working in a jail.
Rhino is the least of my concerns. But Hunter, I
don't think I can put all this to words, probably
nearly as clearly as you can, because you actually faced
the fire, you went through. You went to helen back
in order to become our new GOP chairman. So first
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tell us a little bit about your background, why you
got involved in Republican politics, and then we'll set up
kind of your pathway to becoming our GOP chairman.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I mean, I guess the first wave that I got
involved into politics came from actually your predecessor as sheriff
Sheriff John Cook when he became a state senator and
buying my class to come down to the capitol when
I was in high school back in twenty sixteen, seventeen
somewhere in there. That was an awesome experience. Remember going
to the state Capitol, never had been there before, and
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I'm like, this is awesome. You know, this is what
I want to be involved with. I knew that there
was something bigger than myself, you know, being involved with
with the state politics, and so I knew that was
something I wanted to be a part of. Back in
twenty twenty, I think most folks in Windsor and Wealth
County know that I stupidly ran for mayor at the
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age of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I would say stupidly, Hunter, It wasn't stupidly. You were
a young man and you were on a mission, so
you ran for Windsor mayor. You didn't win, but you
got involved and that's okay, yep, yep.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And then it just kind of became a natural progression
of being more and more involved with Republican politics. My
real first big campaign that I was involved with was
I got hired by the Colorado State GUP slash RNC
to work on Barb Kirkmeyer's campaign back in twenty twenty two.
Ended up doing a lot of work on that campaign.
We were one of the most effective grassroots organizing teams
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in the entire country for Barb's campaign, and as everybody knows,
we came about fifteen hundred votes short. It really really
hurt two years ago. Back in after the twenty twenty
two elections, you know, it was kind of like, well,
my gosh, I don't know what went wrong exactly. I
felt like we did all the right things, and so
I kind of looked around and I said, you know,
I want to get involved a little bit more with
my county party. Raised my hand and said, you know,
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I want to be the vice chair of the World
GOP and running for that back in twenty twenty four
or for the twenty twenty four cycle. And you know,
my goals were clear I said, we're going to flip
these five seats that you mentioned in the segment before
we went out, and we did that. We went out,
we flipped those five seats, and I felt given a
good track record after the twenty twenty four election, you know,
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I feel very strongly that we need to keep Wealth
County red. We need to keep we have three competitive seats.
They are going to be up for election here in
two years, and I feel very strongly that we need
to keep those. So, you know, given our success and
given that goal in mind, I decided to throw my
hat in and run for GOP chair up here in
Wealth County.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So that's where things got really interesting, because, like you said,
you've been heavily involved, You've been working with several campaigns.
You were one of the boots on the ground kind
of guys. So you throw your name in the hat
that you're going to run for gopachair and we have
our standard meeting up in Weld County and eaton Colorado.
It's noticed, it's scheduled properly, and it's being conducted by
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our former chairman, and tell the listeners kind of what
happened in that process.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, well, I mean The basic thing is that every
county has to hold these meetings that in the very
beginning of February. We sent out to our folks. In
early January, we're going to hold this meeting. About a
week after I sent out notice that we were going
to hold our meeting and what day it was going
to be on, we got a email from the state
Party chair. There was no heads up, no phone call
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to us, no nothing, and it was a list of
over twenty different names of people that the state chair
wanted to appoint as precinc Committee folks. Precing committee folks
are of course members of our Central Committee and we'd
get to vote on new leadership that we'd be considering.
So it was a bit of a blind side from
the state Party chair. We went in, we looked at
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the applicable laws and when our by laws and Robert
Rules of Order said, and we made the determination that,
you know, state lasses, we have to consider these people.
We put them on our agenda. And as far as
we were concerned, by putting them on the agenda and
considering them, we satisfied the you know, the intent.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Of the law.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And there were some individuals within our county, including the
state GOP, which did not agree with us just simply
putting it on our agenda, right, So we put.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Those individuals on the agenda, I say, we, the County
Party put those individuals on the agenda to be considered.
The voting body overwhelmingly said no, we don't want to
add these people in at the last minute to be
voters in our next process, and so we moved on.
We elected all our new leadership for the party and
we all left and did our thing.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And then what happened, well, then after that we ended
up getting about a week after our elections had happened.
In fact, I think it was the Tuesday after we
got this beautiful decision from the State GOP which basically said, nope,
your elections are Nolan void. You guys didn't do this properly,
and the State GOP was going to come in and
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basically hold a meeting no matter what. Now, normally when
it comes to controversies, and we had added controversy with
the State GOP before this concerning our Central Committee meeting
which I appealed and we never it's not going before
the SEC. So you know, Chairman Williams broke bylaws by
not hearing my appeal on their first decision, but in
his second decision he sent to us, which caused the
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second meeting that we just held here at the beginning
of March. You know, he said that even if I
appealed his second decision, that he was still going to
do this meeting no matter what. I mean, they were
just absolutely going to steamerroll Well County and just not
even give us a say in what was going on.
And I think from there, you know, me and the
executive team that did get elected in February, you know,
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we kind of got together and developed a strateg and
you know, really kind of worked with the state GOP
and kind of forced their hand on some stuff so
that way we could have some say in how this
meeting was going to be conducted, because yeah, at the beginning,
I mean, they were just absolutely going to steamroll us,
and Weld County was being so utterly disrespected throughout this
entire process. I mean, there was no chance for me
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to appeal. I felt like when I led my case
the first time, you know, I didn't get very far
with it, and the second time, when they made the
second decision which invalidated our meeting, we weren't even invited
to the meeting to give our side of the story.
It was just it was done in a closed door
meeting and we were left out.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But the short of it is, Hunter, you've been elected
to the GOP chair position twice now because in your
second run you won by an even larger margin because
your opponent dropped out. So yeah, when it's all said
and done, you know, and the history books are written
in Weld County politics or talked about, you're going to
be the youngest chairman we've ever elected, and we elected
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you twice. Tell the listeners what is your age right now?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I am twenty two years old. And just to put
it into perspective for some folks because I know you
mentioned it before with Ryan Gonzalez's race. So last time
we flipped house dister fifty I think I was only
about seven months old, went from Republican the Democrat, and
you know, twenty two years later we were.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Able to flip that deep.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Hunter, thanks for being on with us. You're listening to
the Dan Kapla Show and we'll be back right after
the break.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, we're back at the Dan Caplis show here and
you got Steve Riams filling in Weld County Sheriff. It's
great that you have Lauren Bobert. Some music cued up.
That is her walk up song. I'm sure for every
baseball game she plays. Lauren is truly one of those
warriors in Washington, d C. And I'm so glad that
we had a few conversations. We'll say a few months
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back when ken Buck finally decided to quit disgracing CD
four and leave the seat, and Lauren decided, you know,
it's time to move my family relocate, and she came
to Windsor, Colorado, and decided she was going to take
over that seat, or at least run for that seat,
challenge for that seat, and it wasn't even close. She
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dusted the competition. So with us next, I think she's
on the line. Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, how are.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
You doing steam. I'm so happy that you were filling
in today, And You're right. I did decide I was
taking over Colorado's fourth District. It was never much of
a will I win. I have traveled the state of
Colorado for five years now to date, and I've been
earning the trust of voters all throughout our seat and
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now as the most senior republic representing Colorado, I have
represented fifty three of our sixty four counties in Colorado.
And so if there's anyone who knows what it's like
to represent our rural constituents, our ad community, our farmers,
our ranchers, our energy developers, our forest service workers, and
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so much more.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
It is me.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
And I'm so honored to.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Be trusted to be in a physician.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, I'm honored that you and I are on a
list together that I don't know if you got to
listen to the previous segment when I was talking with
our new GOP chairman, but you and I made the
elected officials reveal themselves to be rhinos. Chapter in the latest.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Rhino Watch, when the rhino hunters become the rhinos.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Right, Yeah, I think it's kind of ironic that you
and I are on a list of rhinos. I mean,
sure whatever, call me what you want, but you're at
the top. I'm at the bottom. So I don't know
if that makes you worse or better.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Sheriff I put myself is better than you, but I'm
at the top of the limbs. But here's the deal.
I've been I've been in the room with the anonymous
Rhino Watch author a couple of times now and have
called this author out directly I to eye, saying, as
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Colorado's self proclaimed rhino hunter, I don't give a rip
what you have to say about me. The tactics that
are going on right now are are not right, they
are not just. And if you were only going to
look at the person of Dave Williams and say, if
you defy our state party chair, you are there for
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a rhino, well, then that is an effective and inaccurate
Because unfortunately Dave Williams, whom I endorsed in his congressional primary.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
God blessed Jeff Crank.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
He's now my colleague, and you know, I've had multiple
conversations and he and I work very well together other
and understands those dynamics. But I endorse Dave Williams as
the congressional nominee for District five. Unfortunately, where he lacked
was his campaign.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
First of all, you have to put in the works.
You can't just.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Sit back and say, well, I have the Trump endorsement,
so I don't need to do anything else like that.
That's not right, and you cannot then then for go
proceed and and desimate every other congressional candidate who is
the nominee. Look gave Evans, he went through the assembly
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process the one top line, and the state party spent
money against him and never came out and supported him
in the general.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
So you know that that just hurt our assembly process.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
And if if if that's what it means to take.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Out a rhino, fine, so be it. But or to
be a.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Rhino, I guess is what it is, what they're saying
it is.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I let them say whatever they're going to say.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I sleep well at night. I know I'm fighting for
the country and sheriff, so are you well?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Speaking of you fighting for the country, you know I
get your updates, I get your email from your staff,
and you know, I'm sure some of the people know this.
But if you do have that mantra of rhino, it's
definitely not earned. Because is it not true that you've
introduced a bill to do away with the ATF.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Jariff, I have indeed introduced the bill to defund the ATF.
I want the ATF abolish. This is unconstitutional, as are
many federal government agencies.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
And this is.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
One that I have solely put my name to saying
this must be done away with. If we're going to
go forward and protect the Second Amendment, then we need
to get not only the federal government out of the
way with their unconstitutional agencies who have particularly are armed
cartels with thousands of unmarked firearms, but also we need
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to put the states in check. If we are truly
constitutional and saying we abide by the Tenth Amendment and
say the states have constitutional direction of their states, well,
we have to look further to the Constitution that says, well,
we have this Bill of Rights that clearly states all
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of these things belong to the people and not to
any government.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And so the Tenth Amendment.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Never allows a state to come in and override the Constitution.
And what unfortunately many on the left, many liberals, many Democrats,
have interpreted that as is, oh, well, the tenth Amendment
says we can regulate the Second Amendment.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Well, if that's.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
True, then they can regulate the nineteenth Amendment, they can regulate.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The thirteenth, the fourteenth, first, the.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Fourth, all of them.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
And so this is where we come up in a
quandary of saying, well, what is constitutional law, what is
a law land? And the Second Amendment is a long
land and share frames.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
You are Colorado's sheriff.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
You were against red flag laws, and I applaud you greatly.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
For that, and I hope that your.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Career it continues honestly because of that alone, because you
cherish the Second Amendment right of American citizens.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, that's why this bill caught my attention. You know,
I've dealt with a lot of three letter federal agencies,
and I oftentimes have four letter words to describe some
of them, and the ATF is oftentimes one of those
because I don't find them being very helpful in catching criminals,
but I do find them very regulatory and trying to
deal with people who are law abiding citizens that are
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oftentimes trying to figure out how to, you know, just
exercise their Secondmendment right. So that doesn't mean that they
don't have some righteous cases from time to time, but
I think those cases could be worked by other federal
agencies or local law enforcement. To that extent. We're talking
about three things that the ATF represents that are all legal, alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. If you're going to use any of those.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Things, we name a corner store, gas station.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, right, exactly. So if those things are going to
be legal, if something goes haywire and a crime occurs
involving any of those things, I think local law enforcement
or FBI whomever could have jurisdiction to do that, and
we save the taxpayers a ton of money and a
ton of headache. And to top this off, your bill
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is beautiful. It's the shortest bill I think I've ever
seen because it's right to the point, do away with ATF.
It's that simple. I love it.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
We don't need one hundred pages to do away with
the ATF.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
We don't need one hundred.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Pages to defund the ATF. And also, sheriff, to your point,
I've been described as a four letter word a time.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Or two, and so I get it. Yeah, we get this.
And and also may I just.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Add on a side note, you sound very common proper
on the radio, and I do want listeners to know
this is like a bad a sheriff that we have
in Colorado. And uh so don't take his voices, you
know something that's just like someone who can be shoved.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Shoved the side because because.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
You are seriously one of our toughest sheriffs in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And I commend you, But the ATS and so.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Many other agencies have overreached and really have have just
infringed on so many of our rights. And and it's
time that we do away with those and withdraw that
federal funding from them, UH, so we can we can
be better stewards of our tax dollars and uh and
really allow local government to do what it should do.
(27:57):
And and and police are saying, and counties the way
that the Constitution gives right to there's no one that
does it better than our counties and cities, our local government.
My job is to get federal government out of your life.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It couldn't be said better.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Control.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It couldn't be said better. We're coming up on the
end of the segment, but I do want to give
you one last opportunity before we go to break. You
said you've confronted that person from the Rhino Watch, the
Rhinal Watch author. Would you like to name that person
before you go off the air or you want to
just do that on your own time, on your own dime.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
You know there there's certainly a few that are involved
in that publication, and there is one of the few
that I have confronted. And I think the people who
are familiar with that publication will know the toothless person
that I'm referencing. You know, it is it is unfortunate
that someone who can sympathize with school shooters, who can
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go into the Republican Party and remain remain a member
and even even a prominent member of the Republican Party
by proxy, uh to make such wide accusations. Now, there
are other portions like listen, like the honey badgery report
in the in the Rhino Watch public publication. Look, that's
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Mark Hampton. He is wide open saying.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
This is me.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
He's not high, not anonymous. I love Mark Hampton, I
love Pam Hampton. They're wonderful people representing Parker, Colorado, in
Douglas County, and and they do call it as they
see it, but they are not disgusting and vile, and
they do not lie as far as I have seen.
And and so you know, these are people that I'm like, Okay,
(29:49):
what you say, fine, let it out to the people.
But when when you Sheriff reems And and me and
Lauren Bobert are called rhinos in Colorado, I mean, that's
just really going beyond the pale. I don't want to
give them much more credit than they deserve because.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
They're not credible. But you know, they have.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
A sliver of an audience that gives them a little
bit of accolade and make them feel important, so you know,
they keep doing what they're doing. But this is not
a credible source of media. And I would continue to
listen to our radio shows on k and US and
local media and even the podcasts that are nationally broadcast,
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because that's where I get my most informative news from
the folks who are really digging in and getting the information,
not being biased, sometimes sharing their opinion, but certainly being fair.
And Sheriff, I think.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
We have a lot of work to do in Colorado.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
We're seeing trende or Ragua taken out. I hope John
Fabricatory gets a position here soon in the Department of
Homeland Security. I've been talking with a Borders are Tom
Homan about that because he was once a border a
border patrol director for WYOM and Colorado, and I hope
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he gets picked up again, and I hope he continue
to gain momentum throughout now and the midterm elections, because
remember Colorado, Trump is not going to be at the
top of our ticket in.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
The midterm elections.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
It is going to be a governor and senator candidate
in Colorado, and we know that Colorado has gone severely blue,
so we have to pay severe attention and ensure that
we are getting the vote out.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, Lauren, as always, you brought the fire, you brought
the you brought the brought the heat, and we appreciate it. Hey,
thanks for coming on the show, Thanks for being on
the Dan Kapla Show, and we look forward to having
you on again real soon. Thanks again, Lauren Bobert, congress
Folman for.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The fourth ceded.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But I had a radio show for a little while
up in northern Colorado and this was the show that
we always heard the song that we always kicked the
show off too. So this is like old home there
it is. You're with the Dan Capless Show. You got
Sheriff Steve Riams filling in. It's an honor and a
pleasure to be here. You know, this big, big chair
to fill when Dan's not around. So again, a little overwhelming,
but I've got the keys to the corvette we're taking
(32:28):
out for a hot lap and we haven't hit the
wall yet, but we're going to get close. So we're
almost we're almost done with this hour, but I wanted
to get to a few things here. Let's go to
the text wall. So I got a couple from Alexa.
She says, Sheriff Frames is in the seat looking forward
to this. She may not be now, and then a
little later she says, Sheriff Frames is on my list
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of people I would clone if I could, Great great leader. Look,
I don't know how many people would agree with Alex
on that one. I know my wife certainly couldn't take
another one of me around, so she's probably going to
vote that down. And then I had another texter said,
what happened to Weld County being on on Patrol live?
For some of you that watched that show, it was
(33:11):
a good experience. We kind of tipped our toe in
it a little bit as an agency. And I had
a little skepticism because sometimes you don't know if those
shows are truly live, if they're really if they're really
playing to the audience, or they're trying to script some
things out. And I think the show was very honest
in the way they covered us. They weren't They definitely
weren't accustomed to how big Weld County is. It's a
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four thousand square mile county. So when you want to
go on Patrol live, sometimes you were watching a drive
for fifteen or twenty minutes, So that's a challenge. And
then on top of that, we had some issues with
some of the other agencies that were being highlighted on
the TV show. I did personally. I just I didn't
think they practiced good policing techniques and I don't like
being bumped up against those agencies. You know, you'd go
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to some agency down in the South where they're chasing
someone over a busted tail light, crashing up cars and
putting people in danger, and then we're, you know, out
handling a shooting incident, you know, and trying to do
things the right way. It's not to say that there's
not one hundred different ways to do law enforcement. I
just like to think that we try to do it
best by the citizens, and the show just wasn't giving
(34:15):
us the look that we really wanted. But I want
to encourage people to keep texting in Our text number
is five seven seven three nine. Start your text off
with Dan, or you can call in, which is three
O three seven one three eight two fivey five. That's
three O three seven one three eight two five five.
We've got a couple of callers that we're going to
try to get to in the opening segment of the
next hour. We'll start off with that, and you know,
(34:37):
we're just going to try to see where this whole
show takes us. I certainly wasn't expecting some of the
fire that Congresswoman Lauren Bobert brought, but she described the
person who she thinks is the brains behind Rhino Watch,
and she called him a big, toothless person. I think
that I don't know if I got it exactly right accurate, though,
(34:58):
but I would encour urage any of you text in
or call in if you think you know who she's describing,
because that can give us another topic of debate. To
tell you that the Rhino Watch thing has gotten a
little out of control would be an understatement, especially when
Lauren and I make the same list. So with that,
we'll see you in the next hour. You're listening to
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're listening to the Dan Kapla Show, but obviously you're
not hearing Dan today. You've got Sheriff Steve Riims from
Weld County, Colorado that's filling in, and I feel like
it's almost like someone's giving me the keys to Dan's
old corvette. I'm driving this big, fancy hot rod here
at the K House Studios, and it's a little overwhelming,
(00:36):
to be honest with you, because you know, I tune
in as often as I can. I try to listen
to Dan. I try to listen to Ryan almost daily,
So sitting in the seat is it's kind of a
big deal to me. I don't even know how to
put it other than that it feels like the studio
is really hot right now, but that's all fun.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I think it has the lowest temperature setting in there.
I do that intentionally for myself, but I'll make sure
Kelly'll come in right now.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, it's good. I'm just I'm playing around. But you know,
it is an honor to be filling in for Dan.
I know he's got some important work going this week,
and we'll try to make sure we make the show
as exciting as possible, but also keep it on the rails.
To be honest. When Dan texted last week saying that,
you know, he'd like for me to potentially do some
fill in work, I thought, well, he'd maybe had a
(01:22):
head injury, he'd maybe been in a car crash. I
was thinking, you know, the guy's baby, he's drunk. I
don't know. But a couple of days go by and
he texts me again and says, here's some dates. What
do you think? And apparently he recovered from his head
injury and still decided that this was a good idea.
So here we are. I'm filling in. We've got a
(01:43):
bunch of guests lined up for today and tomorrow because
you're gonna have to deal with me for that day too.
And obviously, as a law enforcement officer, as I said
at the end of Ryan Show, there are some things
that interest me and they probably interest you as well,
especially if you live in the state of Colorado. We're
dealing with a barrage of gun legislation that's hit this
state for the last I don't know, ten years, probably
(02:04):
twenty thirteen when the magazine ban started, So I guess
twelve years now. Gosh, it goes by so fast. I
guess that's what happens when you're having a good time.
But on top of that, we've had a giant shift
in the way that this state operates when it comes
to dealing with criminals. We've almost we've almost villainized law enforcement,
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and we've made the criminals the victims of the system.
And I say that as a law enforcement officer because
I never thought the table would be so tilted in
the favor of the criminal, and yet here we are.
So we're going to talk a little bit of that,
how that slide happened. And you can't talk about all
this shift in the environment surrounding Colorado, and I guess
(02:47):
the lack of following the law without talking about how
it happened. We lost power as Republicans at the state House,
and the Democrats gave us exactly what we didn't want.
So we're going to talk. We're going to talk politics.
We're going to talk Republican politics. And we're going to
have a guest on here pretty quickly who some of
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you may have heard of. You may know him through
some social media circles, but he's a young man. He
truly does represent the beginning of that next wave of
Republicans and he's the new GOP chairman in Weld County.
I think you're going to love hearing from the guy.
He's young, he's energetic, he's got a lot of great ideas,
and he's he's already moved himself up to a pretty
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high level in Republican politics. We're going to have Lauren
Boward on a little later in the show. We'll have
a candidate for sheriff in Wild County. I have an
expiration date. My term expires in one year, nine months,
in eighteen days. At anyone's county say it isn't so, Steve,
It's coming to an end. And I'm okay with that.
(03:55):
At twelve years as sheriff is enough, and you know
the fifteen years before that is as a person inside
the agency. That stacks up to quite a bit of time.
So we're going to have Matt Turner on. He's going
to tell you about his run for sheriff and kind
of the eye opening experience that's been not only in
jumping into the realm of politics, but also going down
to the State House and testifying on some bills and
(04:15):
just seeing what that tone is down at the State
House as it pertains to Republicans, as it pertains to
gun laws, but mostly as it pertains to law enforcement.
And we're also going to have State Rep. Ryan armagust
On again later in the show. He is a gun
fighter down at the I say that figuratively, not literally,
but if given the opportunity, he probably wouldn't shy away
(04:37):
from a gunfight to defend good men and women here
in this state. But he's going to come on and
talk a little bit about some of the same stuff.
So we've got a heavy show ahead of us. It's
going to be a great time. But before we start
bringing on any of these guests, I kind of want
to set the stage with what's been happening with the
GOP in the state of Colorado. We've had a lot
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of chairm and races that have come and gone over
the last two years. We've got this heated mess that's
happening right now with I think five or six candidates
that are running to replace Dave Williams. But really where
the start and end of all of this what i'll
call topsy turvy stuff in the state of Colorado is
through this last couple of years with the Republican Party,
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and that's under the leadership of Dave Williams. I'm not
trying to take a side on either one either way,
but Dave Williams definitely is a lightning rod and he's
done some things that no other party chairman has done
in the past. He's endorsed candidates during the primary, He's
run for office himself. There's some questions about where some
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of the state funding went. And most recently, he got
very involved in the Weld County process for picking our
new leadership and picking our new delegates to go to
the state reorganization meeting. So that really impacted the way
our new party chairman got elected. And I have to
set that up so that he can tell his story
when he it's on the air. Quite frankly, it's a
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head scratcher as to how we got here as a
Republican Party. We went from a state that has probably
always been purple, but we had some influence in this
state as Republicans, not just statewide but county, you know,
at the county level and at the city level, and
there's just a few bastions of hope that are still
hanging on by a thread. Weald County is still strongly read.
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Elpaso County is still pretty red. There's a few others,
Mason County on the western slope, I think Jefferson is lost,
and several others. So we're really trying to hold on
to those strongholds and build from there. And we have
a young man that's he's a great building block for
Weald County in my opinion, as a young man and
a figuratively and literally coming into the party. You know,
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he's got a new vision for where Republicans can go.
And I'm so excited to see a seed change that
hopefully will start in Welld County and kind of grow
its way across the state of color. Autumn, there's been
pockets of hope. I think Weld County is still that
pocket of hope. We flipped some seats ced eight. Gabe
Evans took a seat that started up blue and turned
(07:10):
it red, and we took a Senate district thirteen seat
that had gone blue, it's back to red. And then
the HD fifty seat that had been blue forever and
it finally went red. That's the area that if you
live in northern Colorado, you know it surrounds UNC. It's
right there around the college and it's been a blue
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stronghold until this last session. And we finally got a
young man in there, Hispanic man, Ryan Gonzalez, and he's
doing a great job. So it's great to just see
that that seed change happen and just start seeing a
different influence down at the State House. Ryan, Am I
seeing this right? There's a caller on the line.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're working on that behind the scenes. But I do
have a question for you before we go to break.
You can't answer it however you would like. But after
twelve years, there's the sheriff in Wild County. I've had
some off air conversations exchanges with you about what might
be next for you. Would you consider a run in
politics for another office or is this something where you
might just kind of stay on the sidelines right off
(08:11):
into the sunset and do your own thing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I would never rule everything completely out, but
I am not That's not where my focus is. You know,
with the Trump administration, there's some potential opportunities there, so
I'm exploring where that might lead. But you know, I'm
going to figure out what I want to be when
I grow up in one year, nine months, in eighteen days.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, you know, as as anybody who's been in politics
can tell you, it ages you in dog years. But
if you're in politics and you're a sheriff, it ages
you tenfold. I feel like I'm I look like I'm seventy,
but I'm only forty nine. So go with that. It
looks like we have Hunter Rivera on the line. Now, Okay,
(08:54):
we're going to go to break. As soon as we
come back from break, we'll get with Hunter Rivera. And
he's a phenomenal young man. You're gonna love hearing what
he has to deliver. I'm just so proud to see
a new wave coming into Weld County and I think
I think Hunter is going to do a fantastic job
in leading the Weld County GOP in a new and
(09:15):
aggressive direction.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What a song to come back to? On The Dan
Kapla Show, You're listening to Steve Reams today. I'm filling
in for Dan, but that is one of my favorite
songs and it was even before I got into law enforcement.
Maybe that was the Swan song and the call in
something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now, which one do you prefer, Sheriff the Clashes version
that you just heard or the original Bobby Fuller for.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I actually prefer the Bobby Fuller version, Okay, but I
like this one too.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I'll have that one when we come back from the
next break.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That sounds great. So before we went to break, I
was kind of preluding what we were going to be
talking about in this segment, and that's the new Well
County GOP chairman. For the rest of you around the state,
you say, yeah, what about the Weld County GOP chairman
doesn't affect me, But it really does. You know, we
had a new wave of leadership coming into the to
the GOP, and if we're going to talk about where
(10:14):
we can go in the future, we need young faces,
we need young ideas, and Hunter represents that. So with
us on the line is Hunter Rivera, the newly elected
GOP chairman for Weld County. Hunter, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, thanks, for having me on.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Sir, you bet Hunter, Before we get started, I got
an email a few days ago, and it's from a
little known organization called Rhino Watch. And in that in
that email, it gave basically, like a few subtitles are heading,
it said, well, County Rhinos refused to let dozens of
Trump volunteers into their so called big tent, crazed by
(10:49):
Dave Derange derangement syndrome. And then it goes down It's
not Dave they hate, it's you. And then another section
forty volunteers turned down. And then the last the last
section calls out several elected officials who allegedly revealed themselves
to be rhinos, one of those including myself on the list,
which I find comical. I've been called everything under the
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sun working in law enforcement for twenty seven years, and
I've spent several of those years working in a jail.
Rhino is the least of my concerns. But Hunter, I
don't think I can put all this to words, probably
nearly as clearly as you can, because you actually faced
the fire, you went through. You went to helen back
in order to become our new GOP chairman. So first
(11:31):
tell us a little bit about your background, why you
got involved in Republican politics, and then we'll set up
kind of your pathway to becoming our GOP chairman.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I mean, I guess the first wave that I got
involved into politics came from actually your predecessor as sheriff
Sheriff John Cook when he became a state senator and
buying my class to come down to the capitol when
I was in high school back in twenty sixteen, seventeen
somewhere in there. That was an awesome experience. Remember going
to the state Capitol, never had been there before, and
(12:02):
I'm like, this is awesome. You know, this is what
I want to be involved with. I knew that there
was something bigger than myself, you know, being involved with
with the state politics, and so I knew that was
something I wanted to be a part of. Back in
twenty twenty, I think most folks in Windsor and Wealth
County know that I stupidly ran for mayor at the
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age of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I would say stupidly, Hunter, It wasn't stupidly. You were
a young man and you were on a mission, so
you ran for Windsor mayor. You didn't win, but you
got involved and that's okay, yep, yep.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And then it just kind of became a natural progression
of being more and more involved with Republican politics. My
real first big campaign that I was involved with was
I got hired by the Colorado State GUP slash RNC
to work on Barb Kirkmeyer's campaign back in twenty twenty two.
Ended up doing a lot of work on that campaign.
We were one of the most effective grassroots organizing teams
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in the entire country for Barb's campaign, and as everybody knows,
we came about fifteen hundred votes short. It really really
hurt two years ago. Back in after the twenty twenty
two elections, you know, it was kind of like, well,
my gosh, I don't know what went wrong exactly. I
felt like we did all the right things, and so
I kind of looked around and I said, you know,
I want to get involved a little bit more with
my county party. Raised my hand and said, you know,
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I want to be the vice chair of the World
GOP and running for that back in twenty twenty four
or for the twenty twenty four cycle. And you know,
my goals were clear I said, we're going to flip
these five seats that you mentioned in the segment before
we went out, and we did that. We went out,
we flipped those five seats, and I felt given a
good track record after the twenty twenty four election, you know,
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I feel very strongly that we need to keep Wealth
County red. We need to keep we have three competitive seats.
They are going to be up for election here in
two years, and I feel very strongly that we need
to keep those. So, you know, given our success and
given that goal in mind, I decided to throw my
hat in and run for GOP chair up here in
Wealth County.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So that's where things got really interesting, because, like you said,
you've been heavily involved, You've been working with several campaigns.
You were one of the boots on the ground kind
of guys. So you throw your name in the hat
that you're going to run for gopachair and we have
our standard meeting up in Weld County and eaton Colorado.
It's noticed, it's scheduled properly, and it's being conducted by
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our former chairman, and tell the listeners kind of what
happened in that process.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, well, I mean The basic thing is that every
county has to hold these meetings that in the very
beginning of February. We sent out to our folks. In
early January, we're going to hold this meeting. About a
week after I sent out notice that we were going
to hold our meeting and what day it was going
to be on, we got a email from the state
Party chair. There was no heads up, no phone call
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to us, no nothing, and it was a list of
over twenty different names of people that the state chair
wanted to appoint as precinc Committee folks. Precing committee folks
are of course members of our Central Committee and we'd
get to vote on new leadership that we'd be considering.
So it was a bit of a blind side from
the state Party chair. We went in, we looked at
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the applicable laws and when our by laws and Robert
Rules of Order said, and we made the determination that,
you know, state lasses, we have to consider these people.
We put them on our agenda. And as far as
we were concerned, by putting them on the agenda and
considering them, we satisfied the you know, the intent.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Of the law.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And there were some individuals within our county, including the
state GOP, which did not agree with us just simply
putting it on our agenda, right, So we put.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Those individuals on the agenda, I say, we, the County
Party put those individuals on the agenda to be considered.
The voting body overwhelmingly said no, we don't want to
add these people in at the last minute to be
voters in our next process, and so we moved on.
We elected all our new leadership for the party and
we all left and did our thing.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And then what happened, well, then after that we ended
up getting about a week after our elections had happened.
In fact, I think it was the Tuesday after we
got this beautiful decision from the State GOP which basically said, nope,
your elections are Nolan void. You guys didn't do this properly,
and the State GOP was going to come in and
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basically hold a meeting no matter what. Now, normally when
it comes to controversies, and we had added controversy with
the State GOP before this concerning our Central Committee meeting
which I appealed and we never it's not going before
the SEC. So you know, Chairman Williams broke bylaws by
not hearing my appeal on their first decision, but in
his second decision he sent to us, which caused the
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second meeting that we just held here at the beginning
of March. You know, he said that even if I
appealed his second decision, that he was still going to
do this meeting no matter what. I mean, they were
just absolutely going to steamerroll Well County and just not
even give us a say in what was going on.
And I think from there, you know, me and the
executive team that did get elected in February, you know,
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we kind of got together and developed a strateg and
you know, really kind of worked with the state GOP
and kind of forced their hand on some stuff so
that way we could have some say in how this
meeting was going to be conducted, because yeah, at the beginning,
I mean, they were just absolutely going to steamroll us,
and Weld County was being so utterly disrespected throughout this
entire process. I mean, there was no chance for me
(17:20):
to appeal. I felt like when I led my case
the first time, you know, I didn't get very far
with it, and the second time, when they made the
second decision which invalidated our meeting, we weren't even invited
to the meeting to give our side of the story.
It was just it was done in a closed door
meeting and we were left out.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But the short of it is, Hunter, you've been elected
to the GOP chair position twice now because in your
second run you won by an even larger margin because
your opponent dropped out. So yeah, when it's all said
and done, you know, and the history books are written
in Weld County politics or talked about, you're going to
be the youngest chairman we've ever elected, and we elected
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you twice. Tell the listeners what is your age right now?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I am twenty two years old. And just to put
it into perspective for some folks because I know you
mentioned it before with Ryan Gonzalez's race. So last time
we flipped house dister fifty I think I was only
about seven months old, went from Republican the Democrat, and
you know, twenty two years later we were.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Able to flip that deep.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Hunter, thanks for being on with us. You're listening to
the Dan Kapla Show and we'll be back right after
the break.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, we're back at the Dan Caplis show here and
you got Steve Riams filling in Weld County Sheriff. It's
great that you have Lauren Bobert. Some music cued up.
That is her walk up song. I'm sure for every
baseball game she plays. Lauren is truly one of those
warriors in Washington, d C. And I'm so glad that
we had a few conversations. We'll say a few months
(19:06):
back when ken Buck finally decided to quit disgracing CD
four and leave the seat, and Lauren decided, you know,
it's time to move my family relocate, and she came
to Windsor, Colorado, and decided she was going to take
over that seat, or at least run for that seat,
challenge for that seat, and it wasn't even close. She
(19:27):
dusted the competition. So with us next, I think she's
on the line. Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, how are.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
You doing steam. I'm so happy that you were filling
in today, And You're right. I did decide I was
taking over Colorado's fourth District. It was never much of
a will I win. I have traveled the state of
Colorado for five years now to date, and I've been
earning the trust of voters all throughout our seat and
(19:56):
now as the most senior republic representing Colorado, I have
represented fifty three of our sixty four counties in Colorado.
And so if there's anyone who knows what it's like
to represent our rural constituents, our ad community, our farmers,
our ranchers, our energy developers, our forest service workers, and
(20:22):
so much more.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
It is me.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
And I'm so honored to.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Be trusted to be in a physician.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, I'm honored that you and I are on a
list together that I don't know if you got to
listen to the previous segment when I was talking with
our new GOP chairman, but you and I made the
elected officials reveal themselves to be rhinos. Chapter in the latest.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Rhino Watch, when the rhino hunters become the rhinos.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Right, Yeah, I think it's kind of ironic that you
and I are on a list of rhinos. I mean,
sure whatever, call me what you want, but you're at
the top. I'm at the bottom. So I don't know
if that makes you worse or better.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Sheriff I put myself is better than you, but I'm
at the top of the limbs. But here's the deal.
I've been I've been in the room with the anonymous
Rhino Watch author a couple of times now and have
called this author out directly I to eye, saying, as
(21:20):
Colorado's self proclaimed rhino hunter, I don't give a rip
what you have to say about me. The tactics that
are going on right now are are not right, they
are not just. And if you were only going to
look at the person of Dave Williams and say, if
you defy our state party chair, you are there for
(21:41):
a rhino, well, then that is an effective and inaccurate
Because unfortunately Dave Williams, whom I endorsed in his congressional primary.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
God blessed Jeff Crank.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
He's now my colleague, and you know, I've had multiple
conversations and he and I work very well together other
and understands those dynamics. But I endorse Dave Williams as
the congressional nominee for District five. Unfortunately, where he lacked
was his campaign.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
First of all, you have to put in the works.
You can't just.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Sit back and say, well, I have the Trump endorsement,
so I don't need to do anything else like that.
That's not right, and you cannot then then for go
proceed and and desimate every other congressional candidate who is
the nominee. Look gave Evans, he went through the assembly
(22:37):
process the one top line, and the state party spent
money against him and never came out and supported him
in the general.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
So you know that that just hurt our assembly process.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
And if if if that's what it means to take.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Out a rhino, fine, so be it. But or to
be a.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Rhino, I guess is what it is, what they're saying
it is.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I let them say whatever they're going to say.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I sleep well at night. I know I'm fighting for
the country and sheriff, so are you well?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Speaking of you fighting for the country, you know I
get your updates, I get your email from your staff,
and you know, I'm sure some of the people know this.
But if you do have that mantra of rhino, it's
definitely not earned. Because is it not true that you've
introduced a bill to do away with the ATF.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Jariff, I have indeed introduced the bill to defund the ATF.
I want the ATF abolish. This is unconstitutional, as are
many federal government agencies.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
And this is.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
One that I have solely put my name to saying
this must be done away with. If we're going to
go forward and protect the Second Amendment, then we need
to get not only the federal government out of the
way with their unconstitutional agencies who have particularly are armed
cartels with thousands of unmarked firearms, but also we need
(24:08):
to put the states in check. If we are truly
constitutional and saying we abide by the Tenth Amendment and
say the states have constitutional direction of their states, well,
we have to look further to the Constitution that says, well,
we have this Bill of Rights that clearly states all
(24:28):
of these things belong to the people and not to
any government.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And so the Tenth Amendment.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Never allows a state to come in and override the Constitution.
And what unfortunately many on the left, many liberals, many Democrats,
have interpreted that as is, oh, well, the tenth Amendment
says we can regulate the Second Amendment.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Well, if that's.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
True, then they can regulate the nineteenth Amendment, they can regulate.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The thirteenth, the fourteenth, first, the.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Fourth, all of them.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
And so this is where we come up in a
quandary of saying, well, what is constitutional law, what is
a law land? And the Second Amendment is a long
land and share frames.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
You are Colorado's sheriff.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
You were against red flag laws, and I applaud you greatly.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
For that, and I hope that your.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Career it continues honestly because of that alone, because you
cherish the Second Amendment right of American citizens.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, that's why this bill caught my attention. You know,
I've dealt with a lot of three letter federal agencies,
and I oftentimes have four letter words to describe some
of them, and the ATF is oftentimes one of those
because I don't find them being very helpful in catching criminals,
but I do find them very regulatory and trying to
deal with people who are law abiding citizens that are
(25:53):
oftentimes trying to figure out how to, you know, just
exercise their Secondmendment right. So that doesn't mean that they
don't have some righteous cases from time to time, but
I think those cases could be worked by other federal
agencies or local law enforcement. To that extent. We're talking
about three things that the ATF represents that are all legal, alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. If you're going to use any of those.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Things, we name a corner store, gas station.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, right, exactly. So if those things are going to
be legal, if something goes haywire and a crime occurs
involving any of those things, I think local law enforcement
or FBI whomever could have jurisdiction to do that, and
we save the taxpayers a ton of money and a
ton of headache. And to top this off, your bill
(26:38):
is beautiful. It's the shortest bill I think I've ever
seen because it's right to the point, do away with ATF.
It's that simple. I love it.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
We don't need one hundred pages to do away with
the ATF.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
We don't need one hundred.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Pages to defund the ATF. And also, sheriff, to your point,
I've been described as a four letter word a time.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Or two, and so I get it. Yeah, we get this.
And and also may I just.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Add on a side note, you sound very common proper
on the radio, and I do want listeners to know
this is like a bad a sheriff that we have
in Colorado. And uh so don't take his voices, you
know something that's just like someone who can be shoved.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Shoved the side because because.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
You are seriously one of our toughest sheriffs in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And I commend you, But the ATS and so.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Many other agencies have overreached and really have have just
infringed on so many of our rights. And and it's
time that we do away with those and withdraw that
federal funding from them, UH, so we can we can
be better stewards of our tax dollars and uh and
really allow local government to do what it should do.
(27:57):
And and and police are saying, and counties the way
that the Constitution gives right to there's no one that
does it better than our counties and cities, our local government.
My job is to get federal government out of your life.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It couldn't be said better.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Control.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It couldn't be said better. We're coming up on the
end of the segment, but I do want to give
you one last opportunity before we go to break. You
said you've confronted that person from the Rhino Watch, the
Rhinal Watch author. Would you like to name that person
before you go off the air or you want to
just do that on your own time, on your own dime.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
You know there there's certainly a few that are involved
in that publication, and there is one of the few
that I have confronted. And I think the people who
are familiar with that publication will know the toothless person
that I'm referencing. You know, it is it is unfortunate
that someone who can sympathize with school shooters, who can
(29:01):
go into the Republican Party and remain remain a member
and even even a prominent member of the Republican Party
by proxy, uh to make such wide accusations. Now, there
are other portions like listen, like the honey badgery report
in the in the Rhino Watch public publication. Look, that's
(29:24):
Mark Hampton. He is wide open saying.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
This is me.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
He's not high, not anonymous. I love Mark Hampton, I
love Pam Hampton. They're wonderful people representing Parker, Colorado, in
Douglas County, and and they do call it as they
see it, but they are not disgusting and vile, and
they do not lie as far as I have seen.
And and so you know, these are people that I'm like, Okay,
(29:49):
what you say, fine, let it out to the people.
But when when you Sheriff reems And and me and
Lauren Bobert are called rhinos in Colorado, I mean, that's
just really going beyond the pale. I don't want to
give them much more credit than they deserve because.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
They're not credible. But you know, they have.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
A sliver of an audience that gives them a little
bit of accolade and make them feel important, so you know,
they keep doing what they're doing. But this is not
a credible source of media. And I would continue to
listen to our radio shows on k and US and
local media and even the podcasts that are nationally broadcast,
(30:34):
because that's where I get my most informative news from
the folks who are really digging in and getting the information,
not being biased, sometimes sharing their opinion, but certainly being fair.
And Sheriff, I think.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
We have a lot of work to do in Colorado.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
We're seeing trende or Ragua taken out. I hope John
Fabricatory gets a position here soon in the Department of
Homeland Security. I've been talking with a Borders are Tom
Homan about that because he was once a border a
border patrol director for WYOM and Colorado, and I hope
(31:14):
he gets picked up again, and I hope he continue
to gain momentum throughout now and the midterm elections, because
remember Colorado, Trump is not going to be at the
top of our ticket in.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
The midterm elections.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
It is going to be a governor and senator candidate
in Colorado, and we know that Colorado has gone severely blue,
so we have to pay severe attention and ensure that
we are getting the vote out.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, Lauren, as always, you brought the fire, you brought
the you brought the brought the heat, and we appreciate it. Hey,
thanks for coming on the show, Thanks for being on
the Dan Kapla Show, and we look forward to having
you on again real soon. Thanks again, Lauren Bobert, congress
Folman for.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The fourth ceded.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But I had a radio show for a little while
up in northern Colorado and this was the show that
we always heard the song that we always kicked the
show off too. So this is like old home there
it is. You're with the Dan Capless Show. You got
Sheriff Steve Riams filling in. It's an honor and a
pleasure to be here. You know, this big, big chair
to fill when Dan's not around. So again, a little overwhelming,
but I've got the keys to the corvette we're taking
(32:28):
out for a hot lap and we haven't hit the
wall yet, but we're going to get close. So we're
almost we're almost done with this hour, but I wanted
to get to a few things here. Let's go to
the text wall. So I got a couple from Alexa.
She says, Sheriff Frames is in the seat looking forward
to this. She may not be now, and then a
little later she says, Sheriff Frames is on my list
(32:50):
of people I would clone if I could, Great great leader. Look,
I don't know how many people would agree with Alex
on that one. I know my wife certainly couldn't take
another one of me around, so she's probably going to
vote that down. And then I had another texter said,
what happened to Weld County being on on Patrol live?
For some of you that watched that show, it was
(33:11):
a good experience. We kind of tipped our toe in
it a little bit as an agency. And I had
a little skepticism because sometimes you don't know if those
shows are truly live, if they're really if they're really
playing to the audience, or they're trying to script some
things out. And I think the show was very honest
in the way they covered us. They weren't They definitely
weren't accustomed to how big Weld County is. It's a
(33:32):
four thousand square mile county. So when you want to
go on Patrol live, sometimes you were watching a drive
for fifteen or twenty minutes, So that's a challenge. And
then on top of that, we had some issues with
some of the other agencies that were being highlighted on
the TV show. I did personally. I just I didn't
think they practiced good policing techniques and I don't like
being bumped up against those agencies. You know, you'd go
(33:54):
to some agency down in the South where they're chasing
someone over a busted tail light, crashing up cars and
putting people in danger, and then we're, you know, out
handling a shooting incident, you know, and trying to do
things the right way. It's not to say that there's
not one hundred different ways to do law enforcement. I
just like to think that we try to do it
best by the citizens, and the show just wasn't giving
(34:15):
us the look that we really wanted. But I want
to encourage people to keep texting in Our text number
is five seven seven three nine. Start your text off
with Dan, or you can call in, which is three
O three seven one three eight two fivey five. That's
three O three seven one three eight two five five.
We've got a couple of callers that we're going to
try to get to in the opening segment of the
next hour. We'll start off with that, and you know,
(34:37):
we're just going to try to see where this whole
show takes us. I certainly wasn't expecting some of the
fire that Congresswoman Lauren Bobert brought, but she described the
person who she thinks is the brains behind Rhino Watch,
and she called him a big, toothless person. I think
that I don't know if I got it exactly right accurate, though,
(34:58):
but I would encour urage any of you text in
or call in if you think you know who she's describing,
because that can give us another topic of debate. To
tell you that the Rhino Watch thing has gotten a
little out of control would be an understatement, especially when
Lauren and I make the same list. So with that,
we'll see you in the next hour. You're listening to
the Dan Kaplas Show right here,
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