February 4, 2025 • 35 mins
In the second hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan looks at the recent failed attempt at an elk rescue near Steamboat Springs and explains how it highlights the failings of Colorado's bureaucracy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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of who we are as people, and the State of
Colorado needs to be better than this, and none of
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us across all party lines this issue. There shouldn't even
be any kind of lines. We should be united as
humanity on this issue. The State of Colorado has to
do better. I think we can all agree on that,
and then let's talk about how to make that happen.
Because this story is outrageous. I'll do a quick setup
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for those who weren't here in the beginning. This is
out of the Steamboat Pilot after Elk gets stuck on
Steamboat Springs property, parks and Wildlife urges residents to let
nature take its course. No, no bureaucratic laziness. And this
isn't aimed at any individual named in the story. I'm
talking about Jared Polis's State of Colorado. The bureaucracy. This
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is bureaucratic laziness. We do not as a people sit
there and watch an animal be essentially tortured to death,
suffer this long, emotionally physically painful death that's so easily prevented.
So here's the story. When an elk got stuck in
a snowy gully on a steamboat Springish residence property. Neighbors
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were prepared to come from miles around to help, but
a ranger with the Colorado Parks and Wildlife advise them
to let nature take its course.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's very tough to see. We're all humans, said a
spokesperson for Parks and Wildlife. When we see an animal
in a bad situation, we all want to help. The
reality is sometimes we could be doing that animal more
harm by trying to help it garbage. Of course, we
all want to help. That's the way God made us,
and that's why we pay three hundred million bucks a
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year three hundred eleven million bucks a year to Parks
and Wildlife to help nature. Oh no, but says the bureaucracy,
we could be doing that animal more harm than good.
How do you think they would have been doing that
animal more harm when it's obviously going to die there
buried in snow up to its neck. Unless it's Freed.
Ironically the name of the good Samaritan. Millie Freed, the
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Steamboat Springs residence who conducted the rescue mission, came home
to an elk walking through her property. When she walked away,
the elk got startled ran into a gully full of snow.
I could tell the elk was struggling to get through
the snow, but I thought, they're elk. I deal with this,
She'll be okay. But then the elk got stuck deeper
and deeper and deeper, and Freed then called Parks and
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Wildlife seeking help, but a CPW ranger and encouraged her
to leave the elkalone overnight to see if it could
escape the gully without help. Around seven pm Thursday, Freed
decided to rally the troops dig a path in the
snow for the elk. Early the next morning, we got
a of about and I'm paraphrasing the story, ten neighbors
to agree to help. Just about everyone I called wanted
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to help. I was amazed that people were willing to
come from five miles away so early in the morning.
When the neighbors arrived at Freed's property, the elk was
still live. But still stuck. Then while the group had breakfast,
the elk died. Yeah, yeah, outrageous. Outrageous from our standpoints,
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says the state spokesman. It's important to make sure that
we're respecting wildlife and giving them space, especially this time
of the year when they're already doing everything they can
to conserve energy and calories. That's got to outrage you, right,
Oh yeah, respect them by letting them die this slow
and painful death that could be so easily avoided. And
it's that's got to outrage you. I want to go
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to our jam lines, but I also want to want
to get these this text in quickly. Then I called
CPW about a hit deer near a busy road near
Fort Lupton that didn't have use of its back legs.
Didn't want to help, but reluctantly had an officer call
me for details. That came and put the deer down.
That from no codin. That's the point so many Texters
have made so well, if you're not going to help it,
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put it out of its misery, you know it's going
to die anyway, but a you should help it and
save it. But listen, we cannot live in a state
in a civilized society where we see animals in desperate need,
animals and pain, et cetera. And you cannot call that
the state to come and rescue that animal or put
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it out of its misery. That's barbaric. That's third world.
We can't live in a state like that. That's completely unsatisfactory.
Let's go back to the phone lines gem lines. Rick
was kind enough to hold you had not completed in
the first segment. So Rick, listen, you live this life.
You care for animals every day as a cattle rancher.
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So what do you think should have happened here?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm glad you went through that again. I'll have got context.
Oh oh my, Yeah, distressing, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh h somebody nightmarish.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Should have gone out there, Yeah, deal w to at
least monitor this very very least gone out there with
some snow shoes and put us down. Yeah no, that
the very least.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, you would never let one of your animals die
like that. And isn't that the point.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Was not it's rely exhausted all possibilities. Then God bless
these folks. They ran out there and did what they.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Could came end to that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Appreciate the call my friend, appreciate the call. Yeah, this
cannot be acceptable that the state has to accept the
responsibility to respond promptly to wounded animals or animals in
distress like this. We're too good a people to just
and think of the irony here right, the left talks
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about how they're so woke and they care so much,
and this and that and here once again under a
leftist regime, they're just gonna leave this beautiful creature to die.
But as a Texter pointed out, if it was one
of Polus's beloved wolves brought in here to kill ranchers livestock,
then then you would have had helicopters, you would have
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had rescue crews, you would have had everything necessary done
to save that animal and then probably give it a
back rub if it was a wolf. Nick and Thornton,
you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Welcome, great to talk to.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You hate on this whole help deal. You have to
look back to when the Divisional Wildlife was merged with
Colorado Parks and now it's the CPW, it's Colorado Parks
and Wildlife. Wildlife is the last thing that they're actually
worried about. All of our money goes to protect parks.
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And you know, while these people that went out there
that were willing to help this demel if one of
those people would have made the mistake of going out
and deciding that if that elk was still alive and
they got there and they thought thought it was too
stressed and it wasn't going to make it and somebody
would have dispatched it, that person be held responsible and
they would have been charged with a crime for poaching,
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regardless of the right thing that they did.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hmmm, interesting, Nicky, appreciate that call. Thank you, my friend.
Jam Lyons want to get to everybody Dan who made
the snow deep man made from a plowed question mark,
that's not letting nature take its course. Eating breakfast first
is hilariously humorous. I don't think it is. We've had
a lot of Texters complain about the people eating breakfast first.
My lord, we should be praising those people. It's early morning,
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they're about to go do a I don't care if
your alignment for the broncos. If you're going out in
the deep snow in a shovel to dig out an elk,
that's hard, dangerous work. And as a Texter pointed out
they probably needed to huddle up first and figure out
their plans. So I think it's wrong to blame them.
You got to blame the state, who this good smarrin
had called at seven o'clock the night before. By the way,
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my understanding of the story, though it wasn't specifically addressed,
is that it sure sounds like no, this is deep
snow from a snowfall, and the elk just got stuck
deep in that snow. Dan, the Denver TV media loves
to show animal rescues on the late news at least
once or twice a week. That Bob and Nervada, right,
You know why they do it and for years, why
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all we saw on the news was these two baby
polar bear cubs and how did they stay cubs for years?
Is because we are created to love animals. They are
made by God. We're created to love them, and yeah,
we're created to eat them, but we're created to treat
them respectfully. And so this is beneath us as a people.
Jared Polus's state government, they need to step up and
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they need to be able to respond to wounded You know,
so many texts on this badly wounded animals animals and pain.
Those animals shouldn't have to endure it. We as citizens
shouldn't have to sit there and be helpless to look
at it. The state should have responded here, and it
should respond in other situations. And as everybody said, if
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you can't save the animal, then put the animal down.
But it should not be an option in a civilized
society to leave it there and suffer this slow, tortuous death,
promises everybody on the lines, jamming the lines. You'll get
on next. I'll get to these great texts. You're on
the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just joined us, Thank you. We're talking about an awful story,
in my opinion, out of Steamboat Spring. Steamboat Pilot has
the full story. I've read it, not all of it,
but a lot of it in detail earlier. The gist
of it is, lady comes home. She's got this big
backyard full of deep snows up in Steamboat beautiful area,
and there's this elk that runs away after she took
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a picture. It gets buried up to its neck and snow.
It's stuck. So she calls the state right and says
God to save this animal. State says no, and then
she calls a whole bunch of friends who travel from
miles around with shovels. This is all unfolding in the
early evening hours, and they all come early morning hours
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to dig the animal out, and while they're having breakfast,
the poor animal dies. And then I've been reading some
of the quotes from the state, and I don't fault
anybody quoted in this piece. I've fault the bureaucracy and
the bureaucratic mentality. But I want to go My position
clearly is that it is beneath us as a people,
our basic humanity, to let this animal die, this tortuous death,
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when it could have been saved and the state needed
to step in. And if Jared Polus's Division of Parks
and wild Life is saying that no, they've just got
to leave animals suffering there and not at least come
and put them down, then there's something very, very wrong
and that's got to be fixed. And I want to
get you some more details from this story, but that's
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the gist of it. And then after we take a
call or too, I want to get you some other
quotes from the State that I see my opinion in
the same category of bureaucratic garbage that that's kind of
insulting to our intelligence. But it brings me back to
wait a second, who are we as a people if
we're just going to allow an animal to sit there
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and suffer and die a slow desk like that, I
would hope in our audience, and I think it is
it's one hundred percent agreement that cannot be allowed to happen.
Let's go back to the phone lines. We'll talk to
Joe and Lakewood. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, great show, as always, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A few points that I want to make. Number One,
you talk about bureaucracy. I'm sure you're familiar with the
beer and I believe it was in New York State
and the treatment of that peanut the squirrel.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Oh yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well a fiasco. But in addition to that, you know
that was YouTube. You know I'm a YouTuber. I mean,
you know, I scroll and I'm outdoors man. There are
I sent texts staying this. There are numerous numerous videos
of people rescuing wild animals, iotes, even at one of
the mountain lined lots of deer and elk, you know.
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And and so the last point is it was Hick
and Looper who merged dial Division of Wildlife, and I
believe it was Parks and Rec or whatever, because for
forever Gal has been a big money maker for Colorado,
and Parks and Rec has been a loser, so that's
why he merged them. And the broader point is, uh,
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one or two years after that happened, I was riding
my ATV on National Force Service roads doing some outing
for the for the upcome hunting season, and I want
to say die, but now it's CPW guy pulled me
over because you know, they check to make sure you
have the proper permits. It's called a off highway vehicle
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registration whatever, And of course I did. And you know,
in the process, I get talked to him and I
asked him, so what do you think of this merger?
And he just kind of shift his head and he
did it's not good. Not good.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, Well, Joe, I appreciate the call. Yeah. And this
just comes back to right the government hypocrisy. The left
claims to be so woke and they're so feeling and
everything else, and then you look at this right, And
as a Texter pointed out, if this had been one
of Jared Polus's beloved wolves that are slaughtering ranchers, you know, livestock, Yeah,
they would have deployed every resource in Colorado to save
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that wolf. No, this is this is it's just unacceptable.
It's beneath us as a people. But then listen to
some of these other explanations as I read this story
that the state is now trying to say, oh, the
animal was too sick, and then but listen to these
details quoting the state, when a sick or injured animal
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is in danger, CPW likely won't intervene. So now they're
trying to say this animal was too sick to save.
Animals are so resilient and sometimes they look like they're
in tricky positions so they can still get themselves out. Unfortunately,
this animal was in very bad health to begin with.
But sometimes the worst thing we can do is add
more pressure. So they say, very bad health. So what's
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it doing? Does it have raybes?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Is it like spewing all sorts of foam and everything else. Well,
listen to the rest of the story. Freed added that
a friend is planning on processing the out for food
freed by the way as the hero good samaritan who
rallied the rescued crew. According to the state spokesman, CPW
will remove an animal corpse when necessary, but can also
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help determine if the animal is safe to eat. State
spokesman added that regardless of the manner of death, CPW
offers roadkill permit, which allows a person to take the
animal for food. In this case, listen to this. In
this case, Parks and Wildlife officer determined that although the
elk was in poor health due to a lack of food,
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it was still safe for consumption. So now they're trying
to say it's too sick to save. It's starving, which
makes it even worse. They've got this starving animal dying
a slow, painful death. It can be rescued, rescue it
and feed it, or put it out of its misery.
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But for the state to just say no, hey, let
nature take its course, I think that's a lazy, bureaucratic
cop out. Would love your take, Dan. This makes a
case for a Colorado doge if we have the right governor.
Dan enough already it makes me sick to think about
that poor animal enough, that's the point. That's the point.
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This should not have been allowed to happen. That's why
it makes you sick, and we can't let it happen again. Dan,
what would have happened, says a Texter to someone who
would have gone out to do cpw's job and put
it down, they'd be jailed and fined. Interesting question, and
I'd love to hear from folks you know who may
live in areas more world type aeriastic. Do you think
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somebody would have been jailed and fined? Because Ryan, there
was a time not long ago I thought I'd hit
a squirrel in the road, and I thought, uh oh,
if I hit a squirrel and that squirrel's laying back
there in pain, I can't allow that to happen. So
I drove back around, and my intent was, if the
squirrel was obviously mortally injured, I'm going to have to
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put that squirrel out of its misery now. Fortunately there
was no squirrel there. I hadn't hit it. It was
probably my awful car making some noise. But do you
think I would have been committing some kind of crime
if there's a badly wounded squirrel there in the road?
If I had put it out of its misery.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You're doing the humane thing, and that should be the
paramount and goal in all of this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let me ask you about this. Let's say that I'm
on the road and I was in this situation once
and I didn't own a gun at the time, and
I felt just horrifically helpless. And you see this, this
dog get hit by a car and the dog is wailing,
and all I could do was stay there with it
and call you know, nine to one one or whatever
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you called for animals. And if I had had a gun,
I would have put that dog out of its misery.
I would not have let it suffer like that. Would
that have been a crime.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Where would you have done the shooting?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, that's the thing is it couldn't move it, so
it probably would have been a crime. Yeah, yeah, I
would have done it in a safe way, but it
probably would have been a crime if you would have
been on a rural highway. Even so, discharging a firearm
on a highway, right, that would have been a crime.
So I want to make it clear, I'm not advising
anybody to do that, but authorities need to come out
quickly and do that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, five for zero five A two five to five
the number text d A N five seven seventh thirty nine.
We'll get to more great calls and text on this.
M I right that this that the state needs to
respond in these situations. They need to deploy, they need
to help animals in a situation like this or put
them down. And then also that the president with Netanyahu
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two great freedom fighters today making some very interesting statements
about Gaza. We'll get you that as well. You're on
the Dankaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The theme of it is what it's so easy to
look the other way? That kind of stuff. Ryan, see,
I don't think in a situation like the one we're
talking about, it is and that explains that the powerful
response of our listeners, and that is we're talking about
a story out of Steamboat Springs. It's the steamboat pilot
reporting it. Thirty second version. Woman comes home just a
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big property sees this elk elk runs into a deep
snow buried up to its neck and snow. She calls
the Steak Parks and Wildlife, Hey, you got to rescue
this animal. They won't do it. And then I've been
reading some of the quotes from the state, and I
don't blame the people who offered those quotes. I just
think it's the lazy, bureaucratic mentality. They won't come out
and rescue this saveable animal, which is going to die
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a slow, awful, painful, physically emotionally painful death. So this
good Samaritan woman, this is all about seven at night,
and then she says, holy cow, So now it's dark.
So she's then calling her friends. People come from miles
around early in the morning with shovels to rescue this
animal because the state won't do its job. And then
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while they're having breakfast, the animal perishes. Now we've got
these texters, some who are angry with the heroes who
came out to do the state's work and rescue this
animal that they had breakfast first, Well, you gotta have fuel,
and as a texter out, they probably needed to plan.
I mean, this isn't like shoveling my driveway. You're going
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to be shoveling out this magnificent beast, and you've got
to have a plan. And so I'm just furious with
the state, and as a texter said, you know, if
this is one of Jared Polus's beloved wolves, that the
state would have brought in helicopters and did everything it
had to do to rescue that animal. But this beautiful
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creature was allowed to unnecessarily dye this tortuous death. That
is wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It wasn't laziness as a texture. It's standard operating procedure
for parks and wildlife, reflecting its overall in humanness toward animals. Listen,
I have almost no experience with parks and wildlife. I
don't know their nature. I don't know how they normally operate.
I don't know if this is an aberration, if this
is the norm, if you've got experience, tell me. I
just know this is wrong. And if this is the
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status quo, if this is how it's normally done, if
this is what the book said, burn the damn book
and let's have a policy worthy of our people. You know,
God created all these creatures. There's a reason instinctively we
recoil when we see an animal in pain. We're supposed
to steward them and care for them. And yeah, some
bad things are going to happen, but there are some
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preventable things. This is something, this tortuous death is something
that could have and should have been prevented. Dan says
a tector, a Texter weak el can dear starve to
death all the time. Could you be a little more
unreasonable and bias bias against? Who? Who am I biased against? Here?
I'm just being human. There are no party lines here,
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and the fact that there are some you can't save
means that we should ignore the ones we can. No. No,
that's not how we're built.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Are you telling me that our citizens taxpayers. I bet
that woman who owns that property, she's based taxes. That
all of us should have to sit here and watch
wounded animals as they limp around or drag a broken
leg around, or they're dying slow death. As other Texters
have described that, the state, the government should just be
able to say, let nature take its course. They die
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this slow, painful death. The birds will lead them. No,
that's not who we are. If you won't rescue them
and rehabilitate them, then shoot them, but don't leave them
there in their misery. That's just bureaucratic laziness. In my
humble opinion, Dan is a rural paramedic. We have had
cattle hit by cars yet still alive. Whomever puts that
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cow down is financially responsible for it. If you a
deputy shot shoots it, that department will end up buying
the farmer and other cow instead of the insurance company.
So it will sit there and scream until it passes
because of the laws, unless the owner shows up and
does it themselves. That's the saddest text I've ever read.
We can't operate that way as a society. We've got
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all these laws out there now meant to immunize all
these corporate interests that have all this power at the legislature.
We just need a law that allows people to do
the thing in a situation like this paramedic describes. It
cannot What would you do in that situation? Right? And
I understand the paramount. If you're a paramedic, you got
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to follow the rules. You cannot go outside those rules.
But I could not imagine leaving an animal there screaming no.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I wouldn't leave it now.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I would definitely contact authorities first so that could be
properly handled and by the correct law enforcement agency.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Whatever needed to happen to that paramedics point.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
But yeah, if it's down to please can't get out
there for some reason in an animal's suffering.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I don't know, Dan, I'm with you on that one.
He just couldn't let it happen. No, you come back
to it. I'm not trying to be pretty. I'm just
trying to be practical. And obviously I don't live up
to this. But what I try to do every day
I try to wake up every morning and just say, Okay,
all day, what would Jesus do? And I know you're
gonna laugh because I clearly fall short of that, probably
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one hundred times a show. But the point is that
should be the guy, at least for anybody who claims
to be a Christian. And so Jesus is going to
walk away from that screaming animal, I don't think so.
Dan was the officer, a park ranger, district, wildlife manager,
wildlife tech, or secretary at the Steamboat Springs. I have
no idea, my friend. Did the volunteers eat their breakfast
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with an eyeshot or earshot of the elk? Most likely
DEI Dow employees that should have known better and do
good volunteers that didn't realize they were adding fatal stress
to the wild animal. I wish you'd call the show
because I don't get that. First of all, as I've said,
I'm not critical of any individual quoted in that story.
To me, this is a bureaucracy type of thing, and
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we just we've got to change it. We can't have
a bureaucracy that functions like that. But to criticize the
rescuers who could have just easily stayed at home instead
they dragged themselves out in the early morning with shovels.
And why do you say they're adding fatal stress to
the wild animal. This animal died, you have to believe, right,
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because it was left there, buried up to its neck
and snow from early evening the night before until the
next morning. And this woman did the right thing. She
called the state. She wanted it rescued. It was only
when the state wouldn't rescue it, according to the story,
that she organized this rescue crew. So how did they
add fatal stress to the wild animal? They hadn't even
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approached the animal at that point. And that goes back
to what I consider to be this BS explanation from
the state that we didn't want to add to the
animal's troubles. I'm paraphrasing. The animal is obviously going to
die a horrific death there if you take the risk.
I guess that you're going to fatally stress the animal
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when you try to rescue it. But otherwise you know
it's going to dye this slow, torturous death. I mean,
that's like saying that none of our first responders can
ever go try to rescue somebody out on the highway
because you know there's a chance that they could get
in a crash and kill somebody on the way. I
don't follow that logic. Let's go to Justin and Littleton.
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You're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Welcome he there, fan, I.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Grew up here.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
I've had a call wildlife maybe an anful of times
in the life, anything from ducks to deer. They've never
showed up the last twenty thirty years. The rule of
mountains though, on your last question is the three says?
Do you know what the three s's are?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Family show?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But no.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Shoot shovel shut up? So basically, yeah, don't shoot the
ind of the road, but you don't call it in
either right amount of lion's attacking your dog and coyote
is attacking you know, one of your pets or something.
You just take care of yourself and then you don't
report it. And everybody. There's a lot of people on
the radio that know the three says. Not that I'm
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saying I've ever done it, but that's kind of the rule.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, he's got to take care of yourself like a farmer.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, thank you, And you know again, I started the
show by saying, I grew up in Chicago. I grew
up in the city. I've been here about forty five
fifty years or something like that, but I haven't lived
out in the wild. So are you telling me that
that's say out in rural Colorado, up the mountains, whatever,
that nobody's just going to leave an animal screaming there
in pain. They're going to shoot the animal, they're going
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to bury it. They're not going to call any authorities.
That's just the way it works, day in day out.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
That should be the way.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, man, hey appreciate the call. Thank you for that. Well,
that makes me feel better because I'd hate to think
of these animals like this poor elk that was left
to die this miserable death. After the woman did everything right.
I believe we've got a texter here who strongly disagrees.
I'll get to that after the break. We'll take some
more calls here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've been talking today about this compelling piece out of
the Steamboat Pilot, very deeply disturbing peace about a woman
who does all the right things. This elk gets stuck
in deep snow on her property. She calls parks and wildlife.
She got to save. This elk gets buried up to
its neck and snow, and according to the woman, they say no,
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they're not coming. And then the woman organizes this rescue crew.
But this is all unfolding about seven o'clock at night,
when she organizes a rescue crew for the following morning.
They all come out from miles around, bringing their shovels.
What great humans. And then as they're having breakfast and
as a texter pointed out, presumably talking about how they're
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going to approach this difficult task for them as citizens,
the elk passes away. And I'm just saying this is outrageous.
The state should have stepped in, as a texter said,
if it's one of Polus's precious wolves. You can bet
the state would have stepped in and just as a people,
we're too good. This is beneath us to just sit
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there and watch an animal suffer and die like that
when it could have been SI. So that's what we're
talking about on the show. I want to get to
some of these texts Dan screaming in pain. I want
to hear the recording of that. That's referring to a
guy says he's a real paramedic and when he comes
across a wounded cow, say in the road, they're not
allowed to shoot it because they've been be responsible to
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pay the farmer for its death. But do you doubt that.
I don't doubt for a second that that animal would
be screaming in pain. I told you the story of
the dog who got hit by car and I was
out in the road and I didn't have a gun
at that time, and the dog was screaming in pain.
And I still think of that, and it would have
been illegal for me to discharge that weapon in a
city to put the dog down, but it would have
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been very hard not to. I'm not advocating that, but
it would have been very hard not to.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I called Department of Wildlife years ago about a deer
with a horribly broken leg dangling, was told they let
nature take its course. That was in Fort Cowns. I say,
that's completely unacceptable, and we as a people across party
line should not stand for that. Our government should be
responding and should be putting the animal down if the
animal can't be saved, but to just leave it there
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in pain, No, we as the people cannot tolerate that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You got to remember there's millions of people in this
country of zero problems killing an unborn human baby that
from no code. Dan, Damn, that's true and that and
it's not an excuse, but that's because they can't see
the baby. If if people could see these abortions taking place,
they would end tomorrow. But because I just believe people
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are inherently good. We're created that way, and obviously some
people go bad. But just across all party lines, you
see that animal in pain, or that animal stuck in
snow up to its neck, virtually anybody would want to
rescue it. And I'm not critical of any of the
individuals named in the story, meaning that the state people.
I'm just saying this. It's the bureaucracy, and it's that
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lazy attitude of the bureaucracy and my constitutionally protected opinion.
Different topic, important text, assuming it's accurate. Dan, He's got
an email stating that State Senator Hendriksen is that how
you pronounce a majority whip meaning a democratistic three is
a no vote on SB twenty five three as written,
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would support it if all magazine restrictions were removed, only
leaving the rapid fire trigger portions. This is a bill
we've talked a lot about on the show. I've told
you it's blatantly unconstitutional on its face, and it would
outlaw a bunch of different semi auto weapons that use magazines,
not all, but a bunch. And so no surprise there
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that it's now getting Democrat opposition and Paulus was never
going to sign it anyway. But it is a warning
to the people of Colorado about what the left really
believes and about what they would do if they're given
the chance here in this state. Dan, let's take a
citizen led initiative to change the laws to respect wildlife.
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Brian final thoughts, and I do want to check in
with Kelly, whose dad has been very ill. I know
there are a lot of people praying for your dad, Kelly.
What what is the latest on that. So he's still
in ICU.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
He actually contracted sepsish and so he's being treated for that.
So it's complicated a few matters, but so far he's
hanging in there. He's got great doctors, good good and
so yeah, we're just hoping for the best. And you know,
I mean, he's an older guy.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So this is how old he's.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Eighty gonna be eighty four?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Now, is he like Biden eighty four? Is he like
a Trump eighty four?
Speaker 8 (32:37):
He's definitely like a Biden eighty four as well in
our prayers.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. That is that is hard. And tomorrow,
speaking of Trump, we're going to be talking about this
really interesting development today. And one of the things I
love about Trump, Brian is just these big, old, fresh ideas.
And so he's standing up there Prime Minister Netanyahu and
he's saying, hey, the US is going to take control
(33:04):
of Gaza after the current residents are resettled elsewhere, and
Trump saying, I think rightly they need to be resettled elsewhere.
That's not habitable and that the US will take it over,
will develop it and turn it into the Riviera the
Mid East, and talk about just a great way to
bring peace and bring prosperity and fresh thinking. And I
(33:27):
know you can pick any idea a part right, any
idea is going to have some flaws. But I like
the fact he's thinking outside the box to try to
find a fix that everybody except evil people can benefit from.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I think it is warranted to start over there. They
had an opportunity to have their own nation. I think
they could have worked toward a two state solution. But
Dan they had an election, what was it, two thousand
and seven they elected Hamas. I remember thinking the time
when you did what? Yeah, and then they never had
an election after that. Yeah, But listen, you think that
was a free election. My point, they have a responsibility
(34:02):
to stage a revolution like we did here with what
people uprising.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But all I'm saying is all I'm saying is you've
had a lot of evil forces that have been motivated
to use the residence of Gaza as pawns and treat
them in a sub human way. That's not Israel. This
is not Israel's fault. This is the fault of all
these radical Islamic regimes and groups that don't give a
damn about the people in Gaza. And yeah, obviously you've
(34:31):
got the Probably a vast number of the people in
Gaza have been radicalized and turned into haters of the
people of Israel, and that's no excuse for their behavior,
and it can never be tolerated. Thank God, the people
of Israel stood up and fought so nobly and valiantly
to fight back and to preserve their freedom and epically,
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as they have done for centuries, and good is winning
evils being defeated. Trump's fresh ideas join us tomorrow, Dan
kapla ship
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. There's a test
of who we are as people, and the State of
Colorado needs to be better than this, and none of
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us across all party lines this issue. There shouldn't even
be any kind of lines. We should be united as
humanity on this issue. The State of Colorado has to
do better. I think we can all agree on that,
and then let's talk about how to make that happen.
Because this story is outrageous. I'll do a quick setup
(00:42):
for those who weren't here in the beginning. This is
out of the Steamboat Pilot after Elk gets stuck on
Steamboat Springs property, parks and Wildlife urges residents to let
nature take its course. No, no bureaucratic laziness. And this
isn't aimed at any individual named in the story. I'm
talking about Jared Polis's State of Colorado. The bureaucracy. This
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is bureaucratic laziness. We do not as a people sit
there and watch an animal be essentially tortured to death,
suffer this long, emotionally physically painful death that's so easily prevented.
So here's the story. When an elk got stuck in
a snowy gully on a steamboat Springish residence property. Neighbors
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were prepared to come from miles around to help, but
a ranger with the Colorado Parks and Wildlife advise them
to let nature take its course.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's very tough to see. We're all humans, said a
spokesperson for Parks and Wildlife. When we see an animal
in a bad situation, we all want to help. The
reality is sometimes we could be doing that animal more
harm by trying to help it garbage. Of course, we
all want to help. That's the way God made us,
and that's why we pay three hundred million bucks a
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year three hundred eleven million bucks a year to Parks
and Wildlife to help nature. Oh no, but says the bureaucracy,
we could be doing that animal more harm than good.
How do you think they would have been doing that
animal more harm when it's obviously going to die there
buried in snow up to its neck. Unless it's Freed.
Ironically the name of the good Samaritan. Millie Freed, the
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Steamboat Springs residence who conducted the rescue mission, came home
to an elk walking through her property. When she walked away,
the elk got startled ran into a gully full of snow.
I could tell the elk was struggling to get through
the snow, but I thought, they're elk. I deal with this,
She'll be okay. But then the elk got stuck deeper
and deeper and deeper, and Freed then called Parks and
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Wildlife seeking help, but a CPW ranger and encouraged her
to leave the elkalone overnight to see if it could
escape the gully without help. Around seven pm Thursday, Freed
decided to rally the troops dig a path in the
snow for the elk. Early the next morning, we got
a of about and I'm paraphrasing the story, ten neighbors
to agree to help. Just about everyone I called wanted
(03:05):
to help. I was amazed that people were willing to
come from five miles away so early in the morning.
When the neighbors arrived at Freed's property, the elk was
still live. But still stuck. Then while the group had breakfast,
the elk died. Yeah, yeah, outrageous. Outrageous from our standpoints,
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says the state spokesman. It's important to make sure that
we're respecting wildlife and giving them space, especially this time
of the year when they're already doing everything they can
to conserve energy and calories. That's got to outrage you, right,
Oh yeah, respect them by letting them die this slow
and painful death that could be so easily avoided. And
it's that's got to outrage you. I want to go
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to our jam lines, but I also want to want
to get these this text in quickly. Then I called
CPW about a hit deer near a busy road near
Fort Lupton that didn't have use of its back legs.
Didn't want to help, but reluctantly had an officer call
me for details. That came and put the deer down.
That from no codin. That's the point so many Texters
have made so well, if you're not going to help it,
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put it out of its misery, you know it's going
to die anyway, but a you should help it and
save it. But listen, we cannot live in a state
in a civilized society where we see animals in desperate need,
animals and pain, et cetera. And you cannot call that
the state to come and rescue that animal or put
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it out of its misery. That's barbaric. That's third world.
We can't live in a state like that. That's completely unsatisfactory.
Let's go back to the phone lines gem lines. Rick
was kind enough to hold you had not completed in
the first segment. So Rick, listen, you live this life.
You care for animals every day as a cattle rancher.
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So what do you think should have happened here?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm glad you went through that again. I'll have got context.
Oh oh my, Yeah, distressing, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh h somebody nightmarish.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Should have gone out there, Yeah, deal w to at
least monitor this very very least gone out there with
some snow shoes and put us down. Yeah no, that
the very least.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, you would never let one of your animals die
like that. And isn't that the point.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Was not it's rely exhausted all possibilities. Then God bless
these folks. They ran out there and did what they.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Could came end to that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Appreciate the call my friend, appreciate the call. Yeah, this
cannot be acceptable that the state has to accept the
responsibility to respond promptly to wounded animals or animals in
distress like this. We're too good a people to just
and think of the irony here right, the left talks
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about how they're so woke and they care so much,
and this and that and here once again under a
leftist regime, they're just gonna leave this beautiful creature to die.
But as a Texter pointed out, if it was one
of Polus's beloved wolves brought in here to kill ranchers livestock,
then then you would have had helicopters, you would have
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had rescue crews, you would have had everything necessary done
to save that animal and then probably give it a
back rub if it was a wolf. Nick and Thornton,
you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Welcome, great to talk to.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You hate on this whole help deal. You have to
look back to when the Divisional Wildlife was merged with
Colorado Parks and now it's the CPW, it's Colorado Parks
and Wildlife. Wildlife is the last thing that they're actually
worried about. All of our money goes to protect parks.
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And you know, while these people that went out there
that were willing to help this demel if one of
those people would have made the mistake of going out
and deciding that if that elk was still alive and
they got there and they thought thought it was too
stressed and it wasn't going to make it and somebody
would have dispatched it, that person be held responsible and
they would have been charged with a crime for poaching,
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regardless of the right thing that they did.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hmmm, interesting, Nicky, appreciate that call. Thank you, my friend.
Jam Lyons want to get to everybody Dan who made
the snow deep man made from a plowed question mark,
that's not letting nature take its course. Eating breakfast first
is hilariously humorous. I don't think it is. We've had
a lot of Texters complain about the people eating breakfast first.
My lord, we should be praising those people. It's early morning,
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they're about to go do a I don't care if
your alignment for the broncos. If you're going out in
the deep snow in a shovel to dig out an elk,
that's hard, dangerous work. And as a Texter pointed out
they probably needed to huddle up first and figure out
their plans. So I think it's wrong to blame them.
You got to blame the state, who this good smarrin
had called at seven o'clock the night before. By the way,
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my understanding of the story, though it wasn't specifically addressed,
is that it sure sounds like no, this is deep
snow from a snowfall, and the elk just got stuck
deep in that snow. Dan, the Denver TV media loves
to show animal rescues on the late news at least
once or twice a week. That Bob and Nervada, right,
You know why they do it and for years, why
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all we saw on the news was these two baby
polar bear cubs and how did they stay cubs for years?
Is because we are created to love animals. They are
made by God. We're created to love them, and yeah,
we're created to eat them, but we're created to treat
them respectfully. And so this is beneath us as a people.
Jared Polus's state government, they need to step up and
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they need to be able to respond to wounded You know,
so many texts on this badly wounded animals animals and pain.
Those animals shouldn't have to endure it. We as citizens
shouldn't have to sit there and be helpless to look
at it. The state should have responded here, and it
should respond in other situations. And as everybody said, if
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you can't save the animal, then put the animal down.
But it should not be an option in a civilized
society to leave it there and suffer this slow, tortuous death,
promises everybody on the lines, jamming the lines. You'll get
on next. I'll get to these great texts. You're on
the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just joined us, Thank you. We're talking about an awful story,
in my opinion, out of Steamboat Spring. Steamboat Pilot has
the full story. I've read it, not all of it,
but a lot of it in detail earlier. The gist
of it is, lady comes home. She's got this big
backyard full of deep snows up in Steamboat beautiful area,
and there's this elk that runs away after she took
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a picture. It gets buried up to its neck and snow.
It's stuck. So she calls the state right and says
God to save this animal. State says no, and then
she calls a whole bunch of friends who travel from
miles around with shovels. This is all unfolding in the
early evening hours, and they all come early morning hours
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to dig the animal out, and while they're having breakfast,
the poor animal dies. And then I've been reading some
of the quotes from the state, and I don't fault
anybody quoted in this piece. I've fault the bureaucracy and
the bureaucratic mentality. But I want to go My position
clearly is that it is beneath us as a people,
our basic humanity, to let this animal die, this tortuous death,
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when it could have been saved and the state needed
to step in. And if Jared Polus's Division of Parks
and wild Life is saying that no, they've just got
to leave animals suffering there and not at least come
and put them down, then there's something very, very wrong
and that's got to be fixed. And I want to
get you some more details from this story, but that's
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the gist of it. And then after we take a
call or too, I want to get you some other
quotes from the State that I see my opinion in
the same category of bureaucratic garbage that that's kind of
insulting to our intelligence. But it brings me back to
wait a second, who are we as a people if
we're just going to allow an animal to sit there
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and suffer and die a slow desk like that, I
would hope in our audience, and I think it is
it's one hundred percent agreement that cannot be allowed to happen.
Let's go back to the phone lines. We'll talk to
Joe and Lakewood. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, great show, as always, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A few points that I want to make. Number One,
you talk about bureaucracy. I'm sure you're familiar with the
beer and I believe it was in New York State
and the treatment of that peanut the squirrel.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Oh yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well a fiasco. But in addition to that, you know
that was YouTube. You know I'm a YouTuber. I mean,
you know, I scroll and I'm outdoors man. There are
I sent texts staying this. There are numerous numerous videos
of people rescuing wild animals, iotes, even at one of
the mountain lined lots of deer and elk, you know.
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And and so the last point is it was Hick
and Looper who merged dial Division of Wildlife, and I
believe it was Parks and Rec or whatever, because for
forever Gal has been a big money maker for Colorado,
and Parks and Rec has been a loser, so that's
why he merged them. And the broader point is, uh,
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one or two years after that happened, I was riding
my ATV on National Force Service roads doing some outing
for the for the upcome hunting season, and I want
to say die, but now it's CPW guy pulled me
over because you know, they check to make sure you
have the proper permits. It's called a off highway vehicle
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registration whatever, And of course I did. And you know,
in the process, I get talked to him and I
asked him, so what do you think of this merger?
And he just kind of shift his head and he
did it's not good. Not good.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, Well, Joe, I appreciate the call. Yeah. And this
just comes back to right the government hypocrisy. The left
claims to be so woke and they're so feeling and
everything else, and then you look at this right, And
as a Texter pointed out, if this had been one
of Jared Polus's beloved wolves that are slaughtering ranchers, you know, livestock, Yeah,
they would have deployed every resource in Colorado to save
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that wolf. No, this is this is it's just unacceptable.
It's beneath us as a people. But then listen to
some of these other explanations as I read this story
that the state is now trying to say, oh, the
animal was too sick, and then but listen to these
details quoting the state, when a sick or injured animal
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is in danger, CPW likely won't intervene. So now they're
trying to say this animal was too sick to save.
Animals are so resilient and sometimes they look like they're
in tricky positions so they can still get themselves out. Unfortunately,
this animal was in very bad health to begin with.
But sometimes the worst thing we can do is add
more pressure. So they say, very bad health. So what's
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it doing? Does it have raybes?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Is it like spewing all sorts of foam and everything else. Well,
listen to the rest of the story. Freed added that
a friend is planning on processing the out for food
freed by the way as the hero good samaritan who
rallied the rescued crew. According to the state spokesman, CPW
will remove an animal corpse when necessary, but can also
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help determine if the animal is safe to eat. State
spokesman added that regardless of the manner of death, CPW
offers roadkill permit, which allows a person to take the
animal for food. In this case, listen to this. In
this case, Parks and Wildlife officer determined that although the
elk was in poor health due to a lack of food,
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it was still safe for consumption. So now they're trying
to say it's too sick to save. It's starving, which
makes it even worse. They've got this starving animal dying
a slow, painful death. It can be rescued, rescue it
and feed it, or put it out of its misery.
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But for the state to just say no, hey, let
nature take its course, I think that's a lazy, bureaucratic
cop out. Would love your take, Dan. This makes a
case for a Colorado doge if we have the right governor.
Dan enough already it makes me sick to think about
that poor animal enough, that's the point. That's the point.
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This should not have been allowed to happen. That's why
it makes you sick, and we can't let it happen again. Dan,
what would have happened, says a Texter to someone who
would have gone out to do cpw's job and put
it down, they'd be jailed and fined. Interesting question, and
I'd love to hear from folks you know who may
live in areas more world type aeriastic. Do you think
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somebody would have been jailed and fined? Because Ryan, there
was a time not long ago I thought I'd hit
a squirrel in the road, and I thought, uh oh,
if I hit a squirrel and that squirrel's laying back
there in pain, I can't allow that to happen. So
I drove back around, and my intent was, if the
squirrel was obviously mortally injured, I'm going to have to
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put that squirrel out of its misery now. Fortunately there
was no squirrel there. I hadn't hit it. It was
probably my awful car making some noise. But do you
think I would have been committing some kind of crime
if there's a badly wounded squirrel there in the road?
If I had put it out of its misery.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You're doing the humane thing, and that should be the
paramount and goal in all of this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let me ask you about this. Let's say that I'm
on the road and I was in this situation once
and I didn't own a gun at the time, and
I felt just horrifically helpless. And you see this, this
dog get hit by a car and the dog is wailing,
and all I could do was stay there with it
and call you know, nine to one one or whatever
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you called for animals. And if I had had a gun,
I would have put that dog out of its misery.
I would not have let it suffer like that. Would
that have been a crime.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Where would you have done the shooting?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, that's the thing is it couldn't move it, so
it probably would have been a crime. Yeah, yeah, I
would have done it in a safe way, but it
probably would have been a crime if you would have
been on a rural highway. Even so, discharging a firearm
on a highway, right, that would have been a crime.
So I want to make it clear, I'm not advising
anybody to do that, but authorities need to come out
quickly and do that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, five for zero five A two five to five
the number text d A N five seven seventh thirty nine.
We'll get to more great calls and text on this.
M I right that this that the state needs to
respond in these situations. They need to deploy, they need
to help animals in a situation like this or put
them down. And then also that the president with Netanyahu
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two great freedom fighters today making some very interesting statements
about Gaza. We'll get you that as well. You're on
the Dankaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The theme of it is what it's so easy to
look the other way? That kind of stuff. Ryan, see,
I don't think in a situation like the one we're
talking about, it is and that explains that the powerful
response of our listeners, and that is we're talking about
a story out of Steamboat Springs. It's the steamboat pilot
reporting it. Thirty second version. Woman comes home just a
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big property sees this elk elk runs into a deep
snow buried up to its neck and snow. She calls
the Steak Parks and Wildlife, Hey, you got to rescue
this animal. They won't do it. And then I've been
reading some of the quotes from the state, and I
don't blame the people who offered those quotes. I just
think it's the lazy, bureaucratic mentality. They won't come out
and rescue this saveable animal, which is going to die
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a slow, awful, painful, physically emotionally painful death. So this
good Samaritan woman, this is all about seven at night,
and then she says, holy cow, So now it's dark.
So she's then calling her friends. People come from miles
around early in the morning with shovels to rescue this
animal because the state won't do its job. And then
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while they're having breakfast, the animal perishes. Now we've got
these texters, some who are angry with the heroes who
came out to do the state's work and rescue this
animal that they had breakfast first, Well, you gotta have fuel,
and as a texter out, they probably needed to plan.
I mean, this isn't like shoveling my driveway. You're going
(20:04):
to be shoveling out this magnificent beast, and you've got
to have a plan. And so I'm just furious with
the state, and as a texter said, you know, if
this is one of Jared Polus's beloved wolves, that the
state would have brought in helicopters and did everything it
had to do to rescue that animal. But this beautiful
(20:25):
creature was allowed to unnecessarily dye this tortuous death. That
is wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It wasn't laziness as a texture. It's standard operating procedure
for parks and wildlife, reflecting its overall in humanness toward animals. Listen,
I have almost no experience with parks and wildlife. I
don't know their nature. I don't know how they normally operate.
I don't know if this is an aberration, if this
is the norm, if you've got experience, tell me. I
just know this is wrong. And if this is the
(20:52):
status quo, if this is how it's normally done, if
this is what the book said, burn the damn book
and let's have a policy worthy of our people. You know,
God created all these creatures. There's a reason instinctively we
recoil when we see an animal in pain. We're supposed
to steward them and care for them. And yeah, some
bad things are going to happen, but there are some
(21:15):
preventable things. This is something, this tortuous death is something
that could have and should have been prevented. Dan says
a tector, a Texter weak el can dear starve to
death all the time. Could you be a little more
unreasonable and bias bias against? Who? Who am I biased against? Here?
I'm just being human. There are no party lines here,
(21:36):
and the fact that there are some you can't save
means that we should ignore the ones we can. No. No,
that's not how we're built.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Are you telling me that our citizens taxpayers. I bet
that woman who owns that property, she's based taxes. That
all of us should have to sit here and watch
wounded animals as they limp around or drag a broken
leg around, or they're dying slow death. As other Texters
have described that, the state, the government should just be
able to say, let nature take its course. They die
(22:06):
this slow, painful death. The birds will lead them. No,
that's not who we are. If you won't rescue them
and rehabilitate them, then shoot them, but don't leave them
there in their misery. That's just bureaucratic laziness. In my
humble opinion, Dan is a rural paramedic. We have had
cattle hit by cars yet still alive. Whomever puts that
(22:27):
cow down is financially responsible for it. If you a
deputy shot shoots it, that department will end up buying
the farmer and other cow instead of the insurance company.
So it will sit there and scream until it passes
because of the laws, unless the owner shows up and
does it themselves. That's the saddest text I've ever read.
We can't operate that way as a society. We've got
(22:49):
all these laws out there now meant to immunize all
these corporate interests that have all this power at the legislature.
We just need a law that allows people to do
the thing in a situation like this paramedic describes. It
cannot What would you do in that situation? Right? And
I understand the paramount. If you're a paramedic, you got
(23:09):
to follow the rules. You cannot go outside those rules.
But I could not imagine leaving an animal there screaming no.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I wouldn't leave it now.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I would definitely contact authorities first so that could be
properly handled and by the correct law enforcement agency.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Whatever needed to happen to that paramedics point.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
But yeah, if it's down to please can't get out
there for some reason in an animal's suffering.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I don't know, Dan, I'm with you on that one.
He just couldn't let it happen. No, you come back
to it. I'm not trying to be pretty. I'm just
trying to be practical. And obviously I don't live up
to this. But what I try to do every day
I try to wake up every morning and just say, Okay,
all day, what would Jesus do? And I know you're
gonna laugh because I clearly fall short of that, probably
(23:56):
one hundred times a show. But the point is that
should be the guy, at least for anybody who claims
to be a Christian. And so Jesus is going to
walk away from that screaming animal, I don't think so.
Dan was the officer, a park ranger, district, wildlife manager,
wildlife tech, or secretary at the Steamboat Springs. I have
no idea, my friend. Did the volunteers eat their breakfast
(24:19):
with an eyeshot or earshot of the elk? Most likely
DEI Dow employees that should have known better and do
good volunteers that didn't realize they were adding fatal stress
to the wild animal. I wish you'd call the show
because I don't get that. First of all, as I've said,
I'm not critical of any individual quoted in that story.
To me, this is a bureaucracy type of thing, and
(24:41):
we just we've got to change it. We can't have
a bureaucracy that functions like that. But to criticize the
rescuers who could have just easily stayed at home instead
they dragged themselves out in the early morning with shovels.
And why do you say they're adding fatal stress to
the wild animal. This animal died, you have to believe, right,
(25:04):
because it was left there, buried up to its neck
and snow from early evening the night before until the
next morning. And this woman did the right thing. She
called the state. She wanted it rescued. It was only
when the state wouldn't rescue it, according to the story,
that she organized this rescue crew. So how did they
add fatal stress to the wild animal? They hadn't even
(25:26):
approached the animal at that point. And that goes back
to what I consider to be this BS explanation from
the state that we didn't want to add to the
animal's troubles. I'm paraphrasing. The animal is obviously going to
die a horrific death there if you take the risk.
I guess that you're going to fatally stress the animal
(25:47):
when you try to rescue it. But otherwise you know
it's going to dye this slow, torturous death. I mean,
that's like saying that none of our first responders can
ever go try to rescue somebody out on the highway
because you know there's a chance that they could get
in a crash and kill somebody on the way. I
don't follow that logic. Let's go to Justin and Littleton.
(26:08):
You're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Welcome he there, fan, I.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Grew up here.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
I've had a call wildlife maybe an anful of times
in the life, anything from ducks to deer. They've never
showed up the last twenty thirty years. The rule of
mountains though, on your last question is the three says?
Do you know what the three s's are?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Family show?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But no.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Shoot shovel shut up? So basically, yeah, don't shoot the
ind of the road, but you don't call it in
either right amount of lion's attacking your dog and coyote
is attacking you know, one of your pets or something.
You just take care of yourself and then you don't
report it. And everybody. There's a lot of people on
the radio that know the three says. Not that I'm
(26:50):
saying I've ever done it, but that's kind of the rule.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, he's got to take care of yourself like a farmer.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, thank you, And you know again, I started the
show by saying, I grew up in Chicago. I grew
up in the city. I've been here about forty five
fifty years or something like that, but I haven't lived
out in the wild. So are you telling me that
that's say out in rural Colorado, up the mountains, whatever,
that nobody's just going to leave an animal screaming there
in pain. They're going to shoot the animal, they're going
(27:17):
to bury it. They're not going to call any authorities.
That's just the way it works, day in day out.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
That should be the way.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, man, hey appreciate the call. Thank you for that. Well,
that makes me feel better because I'd hate to think
of these animals like this poor elk that was left
to die this miserable death. After the woman did everything right.
I believe we've got a texter here who strongly disagrees.
I'll get to that after the break. We'll take some
more calls here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've been talking today about this compelling piece out of
the Steamboat Pilot, very deeply disturbing peace about a woman
who does all the right things. This elk gets stuck
in deep snow on her property. She calls parks and wildlife.
She got to save. This elk gets buried up to
its neck and snow, and according to the woman, they say no,
(28:14):
they're not coming. And then the woman organizes this rescue crew.
But this is all unfolding about seven o'clock at night,
when she organizes a rescue crew for the following morning.
They all come out from miles around, bringing their shovels.
What great humans. And then as they're having breakfast and
as a texter pointed out, presumably talking about how they're
(28:34):
going to approach this difficult task for them as citizens,
the elk passes away. And I'm just saying this is outrageous.
The state should have stepped in, as a texter said,
if it's one of Polus's precious wolves. You can bet
the state would have stepped in and just as a people,
we're too good. This is beneath us to just sit
(28:55):
there and watch an animal suffer and die like that
when it could have been SI. So that's what we're
talking about on the show. I want to get to
some of these texts Dan screaming in pain. I want
to hear the recording of that. That's referring to a
guy says he's a real paramedic and when he comes
across a wounded cow, say in the road, they're not
allowed to shoot it because they've been be responsible to
(29:17):
pay the farmer for its death. But do you doubt that.
I don't doubt for a second that that animal would
be screaming in pain. I told you the story of
the dog who got hit by car and I was
out in the road and I didn't have a gun
at that time, and the dog was screaming in pain.
And I still think of that, and it would have
been illegal for me to discharge that weapon in a
city to put the dog down, but it would have
(29:39):
been very hard not to. I'm not advocating that, but
it would have been very hard not to.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I called Department of Wildlife years ago about a deer
with a horribly broken leg dangling, was told they let
nature take its course. That was in Fort Cowns. I say,
that's completely unacceptable, and we as a people across party
line should not stand for that. Our government should be
responding and should be putting the animal down if the
animal can't be saved, but to just leave it there
(30:04):
in pain, No, we as the people cannot tolerate that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You got to remember there's millions of people in this
country of zero problems killing an unborn human baby that
from no code. Dan, Damn, that's true and that and
it's not an excuse, but that's because they can't see
the baby. If if people could see these abortions taking place,
they would end tomorrow. But because I just believe people
(30:29):
are inherently good. We're created that way, and obviously some
people go bad. But just across all party lines, you
see that animal in pain, or that animal stuck in
snow up to its neck, virtually anybody would want to
rescue it. And I'm not critical of any of the
individuals named in the story, meaning that the state people.
I'm just saying this. It's the bureaucracy, and it's that
(30:50):
lazy attitude of the bureaucracy and my constitutionally protected opinion.
Different topic, important text, assuming it's accurate. Dan, He's got
an email stating that State Senator Hendriksen is that how
you pronounce a majority whip meaning a democratistic three is
a no vote on SB twenty five three as written,
(31:11):
would support it if all magazine restrictions were removed, only
leaving the rapid fire trigger portions. This is a bill
we've talked a lot about on the show. I've told
you it's blatantly unconstitutional on its face, and it would
outlaw a bunch of different semi auto weapons that use magazines,
not all, but a bunch. And so no surprise there
(31:32):
that it's now getting Democrat opposition and Paulus was never
going to sign it anyway. But it is a warning
to the people of Colorado about what the left really
believes and about what they would do if they're given
the chance here in this state. Dan, let's take a
citizen led initiative to change the laws to respect wildlife.
(31:55):
Brian final thoughts, and I do want to check in
with Kelly, whose dad has been very ill. I know
there are a lot of people praying for your dad, Kelly.
What what is the latest on that. So he's still
in ICU.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
He actually contracted sepsish and so he's being treated for that.
So it's complicated a few matters, but so far he's
hanging in there. He's got great doctors, good good and
so yeah, we're just hoping for the best. And you know,
I mean, he's an older guy.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So this is how old he's.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Eighty gonna be eighty four?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Now, is he like Biden eighty four? Is he like
a Trump eighty four?
Speaker 8 (32:37):
He's definitely like a Biden eighty four as well in
our prayers.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. That is that is hard. And tomorrow,
speaking of Trump, we're going to be talking about this
really interesting development today. And one of the things I
love about Trump, Brian is just these big, old, fresh ideas.
And so he's standing up there Prime Minister Netanyahu and
he's saying, hey, the US is going to take control
(33:04):
of Gaza after the current residents are resettled elsewhere, and
Trump saying, I think rightly they need to be resettled elsewhere.
That's not habitable and that the US will take it over,
will develop it and turn it into the Riviera the
Mid East, and talk about just a great way to
bring peace and bring prosperity and fresh thinking. And I
(33:27):
know you can pick any idea a part right, any
idea is going to have some flaws. But I like
the fact he's thinking outside the box to try to
find a fix that everybody except evil people can benefit from.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I think it is warranted to start over there. They
had an opportunity to have their own nation. I think
they could have worked toward a two state solution. But
Dan they had an election, what was it, two thousand
and seven they elected Hamas. I remember thinking the time
when you did what? Yeah, and then they never had
an election after that. Yeah, But listen, you think that
was a free election. My point, they have a responsibility
(34:02):
to stage a revolution like we did here with what
people uprising.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But all I'm saying is all I'm saying is you've
had a lot of evil forces that have been motivated
to use the residence of Gaza as pawns and treat
them in a sub human way. That's not Israel. This
is not Israel's fault. This is the fault of all
these radical Islamic regimes and groups that don't give a
damn about the people in Gaza. And yeah, obviously you've
(34:31):
got the Probably a vast number of the people in
Gaza have been radicalized and turned into haters of the
people of Israel, and that's no excuse for their behavior,
and it can never be tolerated. Thank God, the people
of Israel stood up and fought so nobly and valiantly
to fight back and to preserve their freedom and epically,
(34:51):
as they have done for centuries, and good is winning
evils being defeated. Trump's fresh ideas join us tomorrow, Dan
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