February 10, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of the Dan Caplis Show, Dan shares his thoughts on Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime show, including his disappointment with the show and his opinion on what we can takeaway from the show and the NFL's choice. Dan also looks at the cheers President Trump received, the boos Taylor Swift received, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. So, can somebody
explain this to me? How does everything about the Super
Bowl keep getting bigger and more grand and more elaborate
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while the halftime show goes backwards? I mean, truly, I'm
not going to sit here and play music critic all day.
Everybody knows that things sucked. No, this is about the phenomena,
the dynamics. How do you get an event that truly
just gets more elaborate. It looked when you saw the
teams enter yesterday, it looked like they were coming in
through the pearly gates, right. I mean now it's not
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even just a tunnel. You've got all of these different effects, etc.
So why is the halftime show going backwards? Whatever happened
to the days of Bruno Mars and Prints and Janet
Jackson and the Stones? Whatever happened to those days? I'd
truly love to get your take on it. If you
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want to talk about the halftime show. I'm happy to,
I mean, I work for you. But the question is,
is there anybody in America who disagrees unless their initials
are KL. Yeah, that thing was. I can't imagine it
being more boring. It didn't upset me at all other
than the waste of time and opportunity. But if you've
got thoughts on why that's happening with the super Bowl,
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I'd love to hear them, because it just seems absolutely crazy,
absolutely crazy that they would do that, and that they
because I mean, come on, think about it. It's been
part of our culture. The super Bowl halftime show. Americans
have a right to expect something really big and grand
and not just something just sort of routine and route
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and boring like that yesterday. And did the guy I mean,
he was actually telling people to turn off their TVs?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right, grand father?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Looks up the highest met per Bowl made, Petty, how
you fully?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I was telling you walk into a leave with Hey,
you can pay.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It, but somebody gotta do it.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Oh my gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Turn his TV. Yoff, turn the TV.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Y'all even here say yoak, he didn't do in the
show turn his TV off?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Turn his And he's telling you to turn the TV off.
I mean, even he knew how bad it was. So anyway,
I'm just real curious as to why the NFL would
be doing that because I guarantee you they lost fewers
at halftime, right because the game wasn't that good. So okay,
you say you hang around for the halftime show and
then it's that bad.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Has there ever been a worse one? Not even close?
Not even close.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
If you're gonna grade him even the worst ones before,
what would you say Ryan's the worst one before this one.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
That's a great question, maybe for the listeners out there,
but this it did. It definitely didn't appeal to me.
I'm trying not to sound like an old man, but
I can't say I disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You did nothing to do with you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know me.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know I'm not twenty one, but I'm the coolest
guy in town. I'm a cutting edge. You want to
talk to me about pop culture?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, No, had nothing to do with chronological age. It
just had to do with whether you wanted to be entertained.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Did you take his advice and turn your TV off?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Because listen, and I was so proud of myself.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
My goal yesterday, and this just defies any type of
chronological age thing. My goal yesterday would just sit through
the whole thing from three forty five until the postgame
ceremony without getting up once.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I think I got up.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Once, but just to go get a burger or something,
and it was for like thirty seconds. So I saw
it all, and that's why I look forward to playing
some of the commercials, et cetera. But this halftime show
things baffles me because again, one of the things the
NFL's done great job of is just making that bigger
and bigger and bigger. Like my ninety three year old
uncle Catholic priest still does three messes a week. He
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was at the first Super Bowl right, paid like seven
bucks for it whatever I think it was in LA.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But the NFL has done a great job.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Every year it gets bigger and better while the halftime
show shrinks.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Why is that? Would love your thought on as well.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
As has there ever been a halftime show anywhere close
to this?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Bad dan?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
First off, who watches the halftime show anymore? Says a Texter?
And then I think they're about to chastise me, and
the computer decided to see esta.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, who watches the halftime show anymore? But are you
aware that Hamas has withdrawn from the ceasefire deal saying
Israel violated it? Yes, I am, And clearly Hamas violated
it the abuse of the hostages, the people they kidnapped,
and then the very abusive and traumatic way they turned
them over. Obviously Moss has violated it in multiple ways.
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So yeah, we'll be talking about that during the show today.
You can be sure, you can be sure that the blame.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Lies with Hamas and not Israel. So we'll get into
that dan. Kansas City didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Lose, they just got a little bit behind. And you know,
one guy, and listen, I don't bet big. I'm really
really good at sports betting, but I don't bet big.
I never want to have to worry about it. Yeah,
And so even though even though I had a few
bucks on Kansas City, I've got a ton of relatives
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in Kansas City. I always want them in Kansas I
always want them to be happy. So I wanted, you know,
the Chiefs to win. I know that's not popular around here,
but but I had to feel good for Tom Brady, right,
because all this talk about how if Mahomes wins is
third in a row, he's going to surpass pretty Hey,
that wouldn't have been true and be there's no more
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talk about that. And what's disgusting is this lower court
judges are stopping President Trump's power. Ridiculous, thank you text
or believe me. I've prepared hard for that and we'll
get into that with you today. And what we're talking about, obviously,
is it's on multiple fronts right now, not all. I
mean President Trump signed a lot of executive orders which
have not been stayed by any federal courts around the country.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The big focus right now, and I understand why because
I think the Court will be reversed on this is
you had this court at one in the morning on Saturday,
if I remember the chronology correctly, which then enjoins meaning
stopped temporarily President Trump, through Elon Moskin Doze from doing
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a bunch of what they were doing at Treasury. And
that was a one am order on Saturday, without the
chance for a hearing from the Trump team. So it
was an emergency order, which you know courts can do
right under certain circumstances.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And then the Trump team back and filed.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I thought of extraordinarily well done response pretty quickly, and
I read that today as well, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Get into that.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I think that's the most serious of the legal issues
pending right now in the sense that I think the court,
in my opinion in the case, overreached. I think the
Court may have overreached because you may have had the
Democrats misrepresenting what was actually occurring. But I am extraordinarily
confident that at this point, either the Democrats who brought
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the action that the Court signed off on will back
off a lot of it and by agreement that order
the court that injunction will be revised, or the Court
will revise it, or the US Supreme Court will step
in quickly. I think that order was way, way, way
too broad and far reaching that was entered again without
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a hearing because it was on an emergency basis at
one am on Saturday. And then you've got some other
court actions out there that that again what I discussed
in the beginning, the Trump team is so smart, so sophisticated,
so well planned at this point that the Trump team
fully understood that some of these executive orders such as
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on birthright, citizenship, etc. Were going to get stayed by
a federal court somewhere, and the Trump team wanted that
so it could get to this US Supreme Court quicker
as quickly as possible. That's part of their overall strategy.
The Trump team never assumed that all of these were
just going to fly through. I think they believe in
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each and every one of them, and they should from
the ones I've seen. But yeah, they've expected this, and
then they just want to streamline it, hopefully to the
US Supreme Court, because, as I'm sure you know, let's
say that you have a federal court at district court
judge level. Let's say out in Seattle that enjoins puts
on hold a Trump executive order. Well, at that point
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you're not guaranteed as straight trip to the US Supreme Court.
In fact, that's not what usually happens. What usually happens
is it will go to a federal Court of Appeals
in that area.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So when you and that would be Ninth Circuit.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So when you hear we're in the Tenth Circuit in Colorado,
you're in the Ninth Circuit. Say if you have a
California case, and then it may go from there to
the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Certain actions the Supreme.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Court can put on a faster track, and I would
expect you'd see a very very fast track on this
action taken in New York on early Saturday morning. Very
fast track on that, I would expect. So yeah, well
we'll get into that in more detail. Dan Strike three,
see you notre dame Chiefs. You need to stop sports predictions.
(09:43):
I got to tell you, I would be I would
be beyond surprise if there was anybody on Denver Radio
who had anywhere close to my batting average on sports predictions.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I cannot imagine anybody being anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Near as successful at this over as long a period
of time. Does that mean I'm going to get everyone right? No,
everything's the human endeavor plus that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Would make it boring.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But the one thing you have to ask yourself, what
do you think the chances are that when I do
get it wrong, I get it wrong on purpose just
so it stays interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
One of the few times Fox showed President Trump that
was during the national anthem up in the booth. Yeah,
crowd went crazy. Beautiful to see. Also when he was
down on the field before the game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
To me, just bizarre and outrageous.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They didn't show him more during the game, but hey,
yeah eight five y five was there A five A
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three nine. Now conversely, opposite end of the Richter scale one,
Taylor Swift not as well received.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And you know, one of the great joys yesterday is
I watched the whole game with our amazing daughter Caroline.
And we've been going to Taylor Swift concerts together since
my daughter was very very young, since she was nine,
and since I think about the time Taylor Swift started
doing you know, like Arena's and it was just so
weird to see her boot. James Carlin said, why are
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they doing that? And I said, well, because it's an
NFC stadium. But I think it's really because she went
after Trump.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I think part of it is that there's some benda.
Graham Kamala Harris overlap here, there's some of that. Zach Seegers,
who helps produce my show most days before years here
in Denver, said that he had read reports that the
breakdown of fans in the stadium was about eighty twenty
favorite Philly.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So yeah, Philly fans.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Are booing her because of Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs
that part, But there might have been Republican Eagles fans
there that were booing twice as loudly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, I think the point is there were lots of
reasons to bore right, so it's hard to sort it out.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's go to Lynn in Denver. You're on the Dan
Kapla show.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Welcome boy. Some mean tweets today, We are grateful for those.
Welcome Lynn.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
That kind of fun subject I wouldn't want.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I don't think it was right that they booed her.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I mean that's that wasn't necessary. But what I called
about was that I called you several years ago about
a halftime show that I thought was horrible. And I
think that this wasn't great this one. I did turn
it off in the beginning. I liked this one, but
then it got interesting and I just turned the channel
until it was over. But the one that I called
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about that was really bad years ago was The Who.
And I'd seen them in high school during the sixties
at a concert, and then when they played at the
Super Bowl. I called, and I said they were.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Great until they started singing, because they were so terrible.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And you can be old.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And be really good like throwing stones, but.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
The Who is terrible. And I'd say that that was
probably the worst one I've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, but can I challenge that? Can I challenge that?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Sure, because okay, you got the Who up there, and
now that you mentioned I remember adia they couldn't sing anymore,
but they were still the Who. So at least the
halftime show had some weight, right, because it's one of
the great rock bands of all time. And it was
interesting because Okay, they can't sing anymore, so that was
interesting too. This guy yesterday who is not at all
a household name in America, And the super Bowl is
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supposed to be a big unifying thing for America, which
doesn't mean we'll all agree on the music, but it
should be an act that most people know, right, at
least the Who most people know.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Oh, I agree completely, And there are some and there's
rap music that I do like, even at my age.
There's people are surprised that I like Gangster's Paradise and
I like Eminem when he doesn't have dirty If they
bleep out the dirty words.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
But I just I found this.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Uninteresting, and yes, it just seems strange and it doesn't
seem like it fit. I mean a little bit of it,
but it just didn't cover what I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm with you on that that it wasn't the best.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was kind of beneath the Super Bowl, right, I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Should have a bigger act at this It was like
Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Remember they had who was it Kracklin Crows or something?
Who was it? At fifty? It was some washed up
old group counting, But then.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Then beyond fortunately Beyonce popped in. But the main act
was going to be I can't remember the name of
the group, but way past its prime. But then fortunately
Beyonce popped in and did her thing. Though I remember
something controversial Coldplay? Yeah, Coldplay, and I mean yours passed
their prime and then Beyonce did something controversial I can't remember,
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but we would have been better off yesterday was something controversial,
because at least it would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
This was like karaoke.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, thank you, Lynn, appreciate the call. She maybe the
last person today to agree with me on anything. Texter Dan,
Actually I should thank you. I made money all three
times betting the opposite of you yeah uh so yeah,
and then laughing emojis, And I am glad to hear
that that you bet off, because I always tell people
when I make my sports predictions, please don't bet with me.
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I'd feel so bad if you lost your money. Even
though a really eerie amount of the time, I am correct.
Dan about the same chance as Taylor Swift not getting
booed by the Philadelphia Eagle fans at the Super Bowl.
I guess Eagles fans do boot just about everything, but
not President Trump. President Trump very very warmly received.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
As he should have been.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Fuss.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Why do you think Fox didn't show him more often?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's bizarre to have president there for the first time
in American history and they don't show him more often.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Whether they showed him once elicited the.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Chair from the Superdome crowd there, it was pretty universal,
but they Yeah, had it been on ABC, CBS, NBC,
you think they would have shown him at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm thinking maybe now.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He's got them so spooked, we're going to be playing
this CBS the sound of this CBS poll. If he'd
been on CBS right now with the threat of suing them.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You wouldn't have seen the game.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, here's Trump, you know, eating a ham sandwich. Here's
Trump doing this, don't you think, Ryan? Here's a Texter?
Dan f the NFL A Football focusm FU for talking
about it. I'm sorry you're only allowed two f's on
this show, Dan. The worst was Michael jackson halftime show
when he was gyrating while a crowd of young children
surrounded the stage, shocking. This was before all the pedophile
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charges came out. Do you remember that show, Michael Jackson?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I thought it was excellent as far as a musical performance.
Post he was always the king of pop for a
very good reason.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, Dan, I'm fifty seven. Wanted to watch ever tell
you my Michael Jackson story?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
One of these? You got his hat? What are the odds?
That's amazing? He throws his hat out to the crowd
at McNichols. What are the odds?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I can't you gotta admit you're kind of like Forrest Gump.
You play pinball with the who you get Michael Jackson's hat?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And I didn't know who they were. I actually said
to Roger Daltrey, who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I didn't know. I didn't say that way because I
didn't know. I Hey, who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, Dan, I'm fifty and it's the only reason he
wanted to play with me. Yeah, I was the only
person there. I didn't know who he was spawning over. Yeah, yeah, Dan,
I'm fifty seven years old, and you know, he's just
some guy. I couldn't understand that well, but seemed like
a nice guy. And I played a good game of pinball,
especially on a Tommy pinball machine.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Hey, we're gonna shift gears for a quick second. Kim
Cordova coming up. Really happy to have her with us
talk about the King Supers strike, so major union leader
in fact, she is UFCW Local seven president. Kim Cordova
joins us after the break on the dan Kaplace Show.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You're listening to the dan Kaplas Show podcast. I'm ecstatic
that the Eagles want Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I can tell, I can tell that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Hey, let's go to the vip line and welcome UFCW
Local seven President Kim Cordova to the Dankapla Show to
talk about the strike against certain King Supers in the
Metro area.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Kim welcome to the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Hi Dan, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And starting point is can you tell folks at this
point how many King superstores now are involved.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
In the strike?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Seventy nine? So all of the stores are on the
front Range Denver, Colorado, the metropolitan metropolitan area, Boulder, Parker, Broomfield,
and Pueblo.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And is it all of the stores in that area?
Are there some exceptions.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All of the stores north of one hundred and twentieth
our non union Those stores are not reppers, but for
all of those other areas they are union represented stores.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And at this point are people honoring the striker or
what percentage would you say or honoring the strike?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
How much is business.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Down would you estimate at the King supers where the
strike's active.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I think that the business is down significant. And we
see that we represent the stores at Safeway. We know
Safeway's business is probably at about one hundred percent. I
had a guests and I'm watching the parking lots. They're overflowing,
and I think in the around the there's a lot
of competition in this market and so there's a lot
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of other places for the consumer to shop, and we
think they are picking up a lot of the business.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What is the strike about.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So we've been negotiating with Kroger King super City Market
since October and the company's engaged in on their labor practices.
We've been trying to rea contracts. We're bargaining and negotiating
for sixteen contracts for all Kroger stores that are unionized
across the state of Colorado. There's sixteen contracts across the state.
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So as we've been negotiating, the company has been engaged
and unlawful. They're called ulps or unlawful behavior. I'm sorry
somebody's walking into they've been engaged. They've been engaged in
unlawful behavior. And we filed charges with the National Labor
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Relations FORD. So our strike, we have a two weeks
strike now could be extended to even other stores to
The strike is against the charges with the government that
we have because the company is violating the law and
it prohibits us from negotiating successor agreements.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now, is money at the heart of this or is
it other considerations beyond the alleged violations of the law.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Is there a money issue at the.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Core of all this not well.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
There is to the extent that the company has put
submitted what's called a LAS best and final offer, which
we believe is an unlawful offer. But they are trying
to move eight million dollars of money from our retiree
health fund to pay for wage increases, and so our side,
we have not put a proposal for wages on our
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big thing that our members want to address is staffing
we've seen since the pandemic. Then you know, we have
striking twenty twenty two, and then the attempted merger with Albertsons,
the company has reduced staffing significantly. So it's an hour issue,
it's it's the price of grocery. We're actually asking the
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companies to invest in lower grocery prices, and instead they
took after the merger failed. A lot of this is
residue from the failed attempt to merge with Albertsons. And
you know, Kroger was going to buy Albertson's for twenty
four billion dollars. That mergers failed, but they send over
a billion dollars in legal fees and other fees to
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try to you know, get to seek the approval. But
now they're being ensued by Albertson's and all of this
you know, mess between you know, this attempt to merge
has caused you know, we've seen executives make the decision
to increase the price of grocery at the same time
they've been reducing staffing in the storages, not just here
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in Colorado but across the country. And it's really everybody
has paid for that, you know, attempt to merge between
the customers and the workers. And so you know, we
are trying to fix this chronic staffing issue. You actually
had done a show and talked to our workers last
year who were fired over security issues the King's Five
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and that's part of this fight too, and it's a
staffing issue. We're asking for guards. We're seeing so much
stuff in these stores. There's a lot of crime, whether
it's inside or out sites that take place in these
public stores here, and they refuse to invest in proper staffing,
which we think if there's more people in the store,
it's safer for not only the workers to work there,
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but to shop there. And so staffing and safety are
the top priorities in this contract right now. And of
course workers, you know, we have not the union has
not put a wage proposal because the staffing issue is real,
like the Witching five folks, I mean, our members are
constantly having to make excuses and apologize for the high
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price of groceries. There's a big deal with staffing, has
a lot to do with price integrity in the stores.
There's simply not enough staff to change in that, you know,
the tags on the shelves or in the system to
match the price of groceries and what they're advertised versus
what goes through the register. And that's causing a lot
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of safety issues in our store as well. And we're
our members are our shoppers. They spend all their checks
right back into these stores. And you know, we want
the company to invest in lower prices and more staff
and safer workplace shape a safer shopping experience for the customer.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Kim Cordova, our guest president of UFCW Local seven. Kim,
when and how do you think this will all end?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, you know, I sent a letter to the company
today again, if they resolve the unfair labor practices, we
want to go back to the table. But they there's
critical information they have to provide us around staffing and
they are refusing. The company does not want to give
up any control of hours or staffing in those stores,
even though customers see and experience what we're fighting over
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long lines, empty shelves, higher prices. There's departments that are
closed early, and there's not a worker shortage or a
supply shortage in the country. The pandemic was one issue.
All they've done is ride on that success. We're raising grocery,
the prices of grocery, reducing staff, and it's been profitable
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for these employers, but for the workers and the customers
not so much. It hasn't been a good deal for them.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, it seems to me this has got to get
worked out and quickly. And the reason I say that
is that it strikes me the King Supers just going
to King Super shopping at King Supers is a big
part of the fabric of Colorado and that people universally
like their King Supers employees. And so I've got to
believe there's so much support out there for King Supers
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employees that this will get worked out. So appreciate you
being with us. I'm going to continue to honor the
strike myself. So if you looked at the snack I
have with me right now, Kim. It looks pretty awful
because normally I go to King Supers I get my
certain kind of peanut butter. So yesterday I had to
instacart some substitute from some other grocery store. And honestly,
(25:58):
it looks like somebody got sick on the desk here.
But I will continue to honor the strike and hopefully
it all works out.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, Well, we appreciate your support. You know, we also
represent Safeway workers, and you know we're hoping that King Soupers.
You know, you know we can negotiate a contract that
works best for the workers and the consumer.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Today, all right, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Good you take care, Thank you, and please, I hope
nobody takes my support of the strike as something anti
King Soupers.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I love King Soupers.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I love shopping there, and over the years, I think
it's maintained a high level of quality. I love going
into King Supers everywhere. So I'm not anti Kroger anti
King Supers, quite the opposite, very positive about that. I'm
just pro worker and I've always loved the people who
work at all the different King soupers and just figure
they should get taken care of. So anyway, if you've
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got a different point of view, we will certainly send
the Perverse built limo for you. Eight five zero five
eight two five five. Here's the game plan. We've been
talking mainly about a lot of different things. We've been
talking about the Super Bowl halftime show and the bigger question,
because everybody knows it was terrible, the bigger question is
why why are the halftime shows getting worse at an
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event that they pour a ton of money into making.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Better in every other way every year? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So why are they letting the halftime shows get worse?
Has there ever been a worse halftime show? Bringing you
some fun sound from the you know, super Bowl, we'll
get into some of the commercials. I thought there were
some really good commercials. Why didn't they show President Trump
more often? First sitting president to be there? And every
time they showed him he got cheered wildly. Taylor Swift
got boots. So we'll continue to play that and more,
(27:45):
and then we will get into some of the really
serious stuff of the day.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're on the Dan Kaplas Show. And now back to
the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Have you thought about what happens if the administration defies
these rulings, then.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
What I'd offer three points on it are likely to
come in that scenario. First, any official who thinks it's
a good idea to disregard what a court orders might
look at the story of Rudy Giuliani, who has lost
his law license, has lost all his possessions, and whose
actions that sacrificed his integrity came at now great personal cost.
(28:29):
It will not be costless for people who decide to
disregard the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, Phil Wiser, then shouldn't you be very concerned with
elected officials who defy federal immigration law. Shouldn't you be
lecturing Mike Johnston and lecturing all your Democrat cronies who
prints around bragging about sanctuary city? And yeah, it seems
to me you've got other concerns right now, my friend,
(28:56):
Now listen that this whole big lie that jd Vance
tweeted out, something that would even imply that Trump was
going to violate court orders is ludicrous. I mean, this
is like, you know, I won't say it's quite like
the coup attempt two point zero, but jd Vance said
(29:17):
nothing of the sort. Trump has done nothing of the sort.
This is desperate Democrats at this point trying to find
something to latch onto that will stop their slide into oblivion.
Actually it's kind of a free fall into oblivion right now.
What were they in the last Quinnipieck poll thirty one
percent proofal in America And I don't know where those
(29:40):
thirty one percent come from. Eight y five for zero
five eight two five to five. Jdvance is threatening nothing
of the sort. And what's happening is in a way
a very positive thing for America. The Democrats are losing
their minds. It's a it's a very obvious communal nervous
breakdown on their part in front of the public. And
(30:01):
that is so important, so important long term, because you've
still got so many people who vote Democrat out of
habit and they have no idea the party is this
whack right now. But now the whackery is hard to
ignore and avoid, and that that's a good thing. That's
a good thing because a lot fewer people be voting
for them in the future. Hopefully here in Colorado too,
Dan f the Union, what's all this.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
F word stuff? Today?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I know we've got to elevate the discourse here f
the unions. Unions equal higher prices and more dollars to
the Communist Party aka Democrats, sincerely, Abe, Well, thanks for
this sincerely. First of all, listen, unions are like people.
Unions are like companies. Unions are like anything else in life.
There are some good ones, there are some great ones,
there are some okay ones, there are some bad ones.
(30:47):
So a statement that broad, I think is just not
credible on its face. When I talk about all I'm
talking about here, I'm not talking about some big global
philosophical thing. I'm just talking about I got a lot
of experience going to King Supers. I got a lot
of experience interacting with those people. I've been involved in
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some major litigation against major grocery store chain. I know
something about that industry. I haven't sued Kroger, by the way,
not in some big corporate deal. I've sued him in
some serious injury cases, but not some big corporate deal.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So all I'm saying is I like going to King Supers.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I really like the workers, and I think that the
workers should get taken care of. If I've seen no
evidence whatsoever that if the workers get what they want,
that somehow Kroger won't be able to still make billions
and billions of dollars every year.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And I want them to prosper.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That they provide a very valuable service to our community
and I've always enjoyed going into their stores.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I want them to prosper.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But key to prospering is having a happy, healthy workforce.
And from everything I've heard, I just think I want
to support the workers here. If you have some good
reason not to love to have that conversation. Let's go
to beautiful Problo, Colorado talk to Patrick Defund. The Police
was his T shirt. It was absolutely brilliant. Patrick, Welcome
(32:09):
to the show. I thought, after that T shirt, you
must be calling us from your private jet.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Hello, den boy. I wish not much of a marketer,
but you know, I even gave a lot of them away,
but I was happy to do it. I donated funds
to Heidi's campaign. That's wonderful of them anyway.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So you're marketing your way to have it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
But hey, I was more on your Who's story. I've
been wanting to talk to you since I heard some
of your first comments. My first experience with the WHO
was nineteen seventy one at the Denver Coliseum on the
second night it was a Saturday Sunday show. I had
a ticket. I saw the Who with all the original members,
(32:57):
and all I got to say is that lady called
in earlier. I wish he could have seen that show
or any of the other numerous ones that I saw,
like A Mile High and Boulder. But at the original
show that I saw them at, we were able to
sneak behind some people after the show and get in
(33:18):
backstage and I got to meet every member. That's great
done in twistle.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's a great story.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I bought a guitar that shortly after that, like a
week or two afterwards, and a funny story. I was
just trying to learn to play it, and my mom
was a real jokester, and after about a week she
said I got a suggestion. I said, what's that? She said,
why don't you just smash it like he does?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Thank you, mom, Patrick, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, I'm sure I probably would have received a suggestion
like that if I had a guitar. No, my mom
was totally supportive of everything musical. But thank you Patrick
for that call. Texter Dan, how does she referring to
the union president who joined us. Expect higher wages and
more staff, but you mentioned lower prices. It just doesn't
(34:11):
work that way when King Sooper's profit margins are so low.
Thank you, Texter, great text. Yes, the profit margins are
very low, and I don't claim to be a grocery
industry expert. The profit margins are very low, but they
do a very, very high volume. And that's why, if
the last numbers I saw were accurate, Kroger I think
had net profits last.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Year of three or four billion. And listen, I want
them to prosper. They provide a great service.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I want them to be able to afford to keep
doing it, be motivated to keep doing it, do it
at a high level. But yeah, even though the margins
are low, when you operate on a volume like that,
you can still make billions a year.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Let's just take care of the workers. You're on the
den Kapla show.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. So, can somebody
explain this to me? How does everything about the Super
Bowl keep getting bigger and more grand and more elaborate
(00:24):
while the halftime show goes backwards? I mean, truly, I'm
not going to sit here and play music critic all day.
Everybody knows that things sucked. No, this is about the phenomena,
the dynamics. How do you get an event that truly
just gets more elaborate. It looked when you saw the
teams enter yesterday, it looked like they were coming in
through the pearly gates, right. I mean now it's not
(00:45):
even just a tunnel. You've got all of these different effects, etc.
So why is the halftime show going backwards? Whatever happened
to the days of Bruno Mars and Prints and Janet
Jackson and the Stones? Whatever happened to those days? I'd
truly love to get your take on it. If you
(01:06):
want to talk about the halftime show. I'm happy to,
I mean, I work for you. But the question is,
is there anybody in America who disagrees unless their initials
are KL. Yeah, that thing was. I can't imagine it
being more boring. It didn't upset me at all other
than the waste of time and opportunity. But if you've
got thoughts on why that's happening with the super Bowl,
(01:29):
I'd love to hear them, because it just seems absolutely crazy,
absolutely crazy that they would do that, and that they
because I mean, come on, think about it. It's been
part of our culture. The super Bowl halftime show. Americans
have a right to expect something really big and grand
and not just something just sort of routine and route
(01:52):
and boring like that yesterday. And did the guy I mean,
he was actually telling people to turn off their TVs?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right, grand father?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Looks up the highest met per Bowl made, Petty, how
you fully?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I was telling you walk into a leave with Hey,
you can pay.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It, but somebody gotta do it.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Oh my gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Turn his TV. Yoff, turn the TV.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Y'all even here say yoak, he didn't do in the
show turn his TV off?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Turn his And he's telling you to turn the TV off.
I mean, even he knew how bad it was. So anyway,
I'm just real curious as to why the NFL would
be doing that because I guarantee you they lost fewers
at halftime, right because the game wasn't that good. So okay,
you say you hang around for the halftime show and
then it's that bad.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Has there ever been a worse one? Not even close?
Not even close.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
If you're gonna grade him even the worst ones before,
what would you say Ryan's the worst one before this one.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
That's a great question, maybe for the listeners out there,
but this it did. It definitely didn't appeal to me.
I'm trying not to sound like an old man, but
I can't say I disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You did nothing to do with you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know me.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know I'm not twenty one, but I'm the coolest
guy in town. I'm a cutting edge. You want to
talk to me about pop culture?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, No, had nothing to do with chronological age. It
just had to do with whether you wanted to be entertained.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Did you take his advice and turn your TV off?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Because listen, and I was so proud of myself.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
My goal yesterday, and this just defies any type of
chronological age thing. My goal yesterday would just sit through
the whole thing from three forty five until the postgame
ceremony without getting up once.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I think I got up.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Once, but just to go get a burger or something,
and it was for like thirty seconds. So I saw
it all, and that's why I look forward to playing
some of the commercials, et cetera. But this halftime show
things baffles me because again, one of the things the
NFL's done great job of is just making that bigger
and bigger and bigger. Like my ninety three year old
uncle Catholic priest still does three messes a week. He
(04:08):
was at the first Super Bowl right, paid like seven
bucks for it whatever I think it was in LA.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But the NFL has done a great job.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Every year it gets bigger and better while the halftime
show shrinks.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Why is that? Would love your thought on as well.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
As has there ever been a halftime show anywhere close
to this?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Bad dan?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
First off, who watches the halftime show anymore? Says a Texter?
And then I think they're about to chastise me, and
the computer decided to see esta.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, who watches the halftime show anymore? But are you
aware that Hamas has withdrawn from the ceasefire deal saying
Israel violated it? Yes, I am, And clearly Hamas violated
it the abuse of the hostages, the people they kidnapped,
and then the very abusive and traumatic way they turned
them over. Obviously Moss has violated it in multiple ways.
(05:03):
So yeah, we'll be talking about that during the show today.
You can be sure, you can be sure that the blame.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Lies with Hamas and not Israel. So we'll get into
that dan. Kansas City didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Lose, they just got a little bit behind. And you know,
one guy, and listen, I don't bet big. I'm really
really good at sports betting, but I don't bet big.
I never want to have to worry about it. Yeah,
And so even though even though I had a few
bucks on Kansas City, I've got a ton of relatives
(05:38):
in Kansas City. I always want them in Kansas I
always want them to be happy. So I wanted, you know,
the Chiefs to win. I know that's not popular around here,
but but I had to feel good for Tom Brady, right,
because all this talk about how if Mahomes wins is
third in a row, he's going to surpass pretty Hey,
that wouldn't have been true and be there's no more
(05:58):
talk about that. And what's disgusting is this lower court
judges are stopping President Trump's power. Ridiculous, thank you text
or believe me. I've prepared hard for that and we'll
get into that with you today. And what we're talking about, obviously,
is it's on multiple fronts right now, not all. I
mean President Trump signed a lot of executive orders which
have not been stayed by any federal courts around the country.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The big focus right now, and I understand why because
I think the Court will be reversed on this is
you had this court at one in the morning on Saturday,
if I remember the chronology correctly, which then enjoins meaning
stopped temporarily President Trump, through Elon Moskin Doze from doing
(06:43):
a bunch of what they were doing at Treasury. And
that was a one am order on Saturday, without the
chance for a hearing from the Trump team. So it
was an emergency order, which you know courts can do
right under certain circumstances.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And then the Trump team back and filed.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I thought of extraordinarily well done response pretty quickly, and
I read that today as well, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Get into that.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I think that's the most serious of the legal issues
pending right now in the sense that I think the court,
in my opinion in the case, overreached. I think the
Court may have overreached because you may have had the
Democrats misrepresenting what was actually occurring. But I am extraordinarily
confident that at this point, either the Democrats who brought
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the action that the Court signed off on will back
off a lot of it and by agreement that order
the court that injunction will be revised, or the Court
will revise it, or the US Supreme Court will step
in quickly. I think that order was way, way, way
too broad and far reaching that was entered again without
(07:51):
a hearing because it was on an emergency basis at
one am on Saturday. And then you've got some other
court actions out there that that again what I discussed
in the beginning, the Trump team is so smart, so sophisticated,
so well planned at this point that the Trump team
fully understood that some of these executive orders such as
(08:13):
on birthright, citizenship, etc. Were going to get stayed by
a federal court somewhere, and the Trump team wanted that
so it could get to this US Supreme Court quicker
as quickly as possible. That's part of their overall strategy.
The Trump team never assumed that all of these were
just going to fly through. I think they believe in
(08:34):
each and every one of them, and they should from
the ones I've seen. But yeah, they've expected this, and
then they just want to streamline it, hopefully to the
US Supreme Court, because, as I'm sure you know, let's
say that you have a federal court at district court
judge level. Let's say out in Seattle that enjoins puts
on hold a Trump executive order. Well, at that point
(08:58):
you're not guaranteed as straight trip to the US Supreme Court.
In fact, that's not what usually happens. What usually happens
is it will go to a federal Court of Appeals
in that area.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So when you and that would be Ninth Circuit.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So when you hear we're in the Tenth Circuit in Colorado,
you're in the Ninth Circuit. Say if you have a
California case, and then it may go from there to
the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Certain actions the Supreme.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Court can put on a faster track, and I would
expect you'd see a very very fast track on this
action taken in New York on early Saturday morning. Very
fast track on that, I would expect. So yeah, well
we'll get into that in more detail. Dan Strike three,
see you notre dame Chiefs. You need to stop sports predictions.
(09:43):
I got to tell you, I would be I would
be beyond surprise if there was anybody on Denver Radio
who had anywhere close to my batting average on sports predictions.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I cannot imagine anybody being anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Near as successful at this over as long a period
of time. Does that mean I'm going to get everyone right? No,
everything's the human endeavor plus that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Would make it boring.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But the one thing you have to ask yourself, what
do you think the chances are that when I do
get it wrong, I get it wrong on purpose just
so it stays interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
One of the few times Fox showed President Trump that
was during the national anthem up in the booth. Yeah,
crowd went crazy. Beautiful to see. Also when he was
down on the field before the game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
To me, just bizarre and outrageous.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They didn't show him more during the game, but hey,
yeah eight five y five was there A five A
two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine. Now conversely, opposite end of the Richter scale one,
Taylor Swift not as well received.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And you know, one of the great joys yesterday is
I watched the whole game with our amazing daughter Caroline.
And we've been going to Taylor Swift concerts together since
my daughter was very very young, since she was nine,
and since I think about the time Taylor Swift started
doing you know, like Arena's and it was just so
weird to see her boot. James Carlin said, why are
(11:30):
they doing that? And I said, well, because it's an
NFC stadium. But I think it's really because she went
after Trump.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I think part of it is that there's some benda.
Graham Kamala Harris overlap here, there's some of that. Zach Seegers,
who helps produce my show most days before years here
in Denver, said that he had read reports that the
breakdown of fans in the stadium was about eighty twenty
favorite Philly.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So yeah, Philly fans.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Are booing her because of Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs
that part, But there might have been Republican Eagles fans
there that were booing twice as loudly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, I think the point is there were lots of
reasons to bore right, so it's hard to sort it out.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's go to Lynn in Denver. You're on the Dan
Kapla show.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Welcome boy. Some mean tweets today, We are grateful for those.
Welcome Lynn.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
That kind of fun subject I wouldn't want.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I don't think it was right that they booed her.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I mean that's that wasn't necessary. But what I called
about was that I called you several years ago about
a halftime show that I thought was horrible. And I
think that this wasn't great this one. I did turn
it off in the beginning. I liked this one, but
then it got interesting and I just turned the channel
until it was over. But the one that I called
(12:43):
about that was really bad years ago was The Who.
And I'd seen them in high school during the sixties
at a concert, and then when they played at the
Super Bowl. I called, and I said they were.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Great until they started singing, because they were so terrible.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And you can be old.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And be really good like throwing stones, but.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
The Who is terrible. And I'd say that that was
probably the worst one I've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, but can I challenge that? Can I challenge that?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Sure, because okay, you got the Who up there, and
now that you mentioned I remember adia they couldn't sing anymore,
but they were still the Who. So at least the
halftime show had some weight, right, because it's one of
the great rock bands of all time. And it was
interesting because Okay, they can't sing anymore, so that was
interesting too. This guy yesterday who is not at all
a household name in America, And the super Bowl is
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supposed to be a big unifying thing for America, which
doesn't mean we'll all agree on the music, but it
should be an act that most people know, right, at
least the Who most people know.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Oh, I agree completely, And there are some and there's
rap music that I do like, even at my age.
There's people are surprised that I like Gangster's Paradise and
I like Eminem when he doesn't have dirty If they
bleep out the dirty words.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
But I just I found this.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Uninteresting, and yes, it just seems strange and it doesn't
seem like it fit. I mean a little bit of it,
but it just didn't cover what I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm with you on that that it wasn't the best.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was kind of beneath the Super Bowl, right, I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Should have a bigger act at this It was like
Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Remember they had who was it Kracklin Crows or something?
Who was it? At fifty? It was some washed up
old group counting, But then.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Then beyond fortunately Beyonce popped in. But the main act
was going to be I can't remember the name of
the group, but way past its prime. But then fortunately
Beyonce popped in and did her thing. Though I remember
something controversial Coldplay? Yeah, Coldplay, and I mean yours passed
their prime and then Beyonce did something controversial I can't remember,
(14:45):
but we would have been better off yesterday was something controversial,
because at least it would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
This was like karaoke.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, thank you, Lynn, appreciate the call. She maybe the
last person today to agree with me on anything. Texter Dan,
Actually I should thank you. I made money all three
times betting the opposite of you yeah uh so yeah,
and then laughing emojis, And I am glad to hear
that that you bet off, because I always tell people
when I make my sports predictions, please don't bet with me.
(15:16):
I'd feel so bad if you lost your money. Even
though a really eerie amount of the time, I am correct.
Dan about the same chance as Taylor Swift not getting
booed by the Philadelphia Eagle fans at the Super Bowl.
I guess Eagles fans do boot just about everything, but
not President Trump. President Trump very very warmly received.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
As he should have been.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Fuss.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Why do you think Fox didn't show him more often?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's bizarre to have president there for the first time
in American history and they don't show him more often.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Whether they showed him once elicited the.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Chair from the Superdome crowd there, it was pretty universal,
but they Yeah, had it been on ABC, CBS, NBC,
you think they would have shown him at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm thinking maybe now.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He's got them so spooked, we're going to be playing
this CBS the sound of this CBS poll. If he'd
been on CBS right now with the threat of suing them.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You wouldn't have seen the game.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, here's Trump, you know, eating a ham sandwich. Here's
Trump doing this, don't you think, Ryan? Here's a Texter?
Dan f the NFL A Football focusm FU for talking
about it. I'm sorry you're only allowed two f's on
this show, Dan. The worst was Michael jackson halftime show
when he was gyrating while a crowd of young children
surrounded the stage, shocking. This was before all the pedophile
(16:39):
charges came out. Do you remember that show, Michael Jackson?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I thought it was excellent as far as a musical performance.
Post he was always the king of pop for a
very good reason.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, Dan, I'm fifty seven. Wanted to watch ever tell
you my Michael Jackson story?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
One of these? You got his hat? What are the odds?
That's amazing? He throws his hat out to the crowd
at McNichols. What are the odds?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I can't you gotta admit you're kind of like Forrest Gump.
You play pinball with the who you get Michael Jackson's hat?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And I didn't know who they were. I actually said
to Roger Daltrey, who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I didn't know. I didn't say that way because I
didn't know. I Hey, who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, Dan, I'm fifty and it's the only reason he
wanted to play with me. Yeah, I was the only
person there. I didn't know who he was spawning over. Yeah, yeah, Dan,
I'm fifty seven years old, and you know, he's just
some guy. I couldn't understand that well, but seemed like
a nice guy. And I played a good game of pinball,
especially on a Tommy pinball machine.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Hey, we're gonna shift gears for a quick second. Kim
Cordova coming up. Really happy to have her with us
talk about the King Supers strike, so major union leader
in fact, she is UFCW Local seven president. Kim Cordova
joins us after the break on the dan Kaplace Show.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You're listening to the dan Kaplas Show podcast. I'm ecstatic
that the Eagles want Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I can tell, I can tell that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Hey, let's go to the vip line and welcome UFCW
Local seven President Kim Cordova to the Dankapla Show to
talk about the strike against certain King Supers in the
Metro area.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Kim welcome to the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Hi Dan, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And starting point is can you tell folks at this
point how many King superstores now are involved.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
In the strike?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Seventy nine? So all of the stores are on the
front Range Denver, Colorado, the metropolitan metropolitan area, Boulder, Parker, Broomfield,
and Pueblo.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And is it all of the stores in that area?
Are there some exceptions.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
All of the stores north of one hundred and twentieth
our non union Those stores are not reppers, but for
all of those other areas they are union represented stores.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And at this point are people honoring the striker or
what percentage would you say or honoring the strike?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
How much is business.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Down would you estimate at the King supers where the
strike's active.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I think that the business is down significant. And we
see that we represent the stores at Safeway. We know
Safeway's business is probably at about one hundred percent. I
had a guests and I'm watching the parking lots. They're overflowing,
and I think in the around the there's a lot
of competition in this market and so there's a lot
(19:40):
of other places for the consumer to shop, and we
think they are picking up a lot of the business.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What is the strike about.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So we've been negotiating with Kroger King super City Market
since October and the company's engaged in on their labor practices.
We've been trying to rea contracts. We're bargaining and negotiating
for sixteen contracts for all Kroger stores that are unionized
across the state of Colorado. There's sixteen contracts across the state.
(20:10):
So as we've been negotiating, the company has been engaged
and unlawful. They're called ulps or unlawful behavior. I'm sorry
somebody's walking into they've been engaged. They've been engaged in
unlawful behavior. And we filed charges with the National Labor
(20:31):
Relations FORD. So our strike, we have a two weeks
strike now could be extended to even other stores to
The strike is against the charges with the government that
we have because the company is violating the law and
it prohibits us from negotiating successor agreements.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now, is money at the heart of this or is
it other considerations beyond the alleged violations of the law.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Is there a money issue at the.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Core of all this not well.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
There is to the extent that the company has put
submitted what's called a LAS best and final offer, which
we believe is an unlawful offer. But they are trying
to move eight million dollars of money from our retiree
health fund to pay for wage increases, and so our side,
we have not put a proposal for wages on our
(21:22):
big thing that our members want to address is staffing
we've seen since the pandemic. Then you know, we have
striking twenty twenty two, and then the attempted merger with Albertsons,
the company has reduced staffing significantly. So it's an hour issue,
it's it's the price of grocery. We're actually asking the
(21:42):
companies to invest in lower grocery prices, and instead they
took after the merger failed. A lot of this is
residue from the failed attempt to merge with Albertsons. And
you know, Kroger was going to buy Albertson's for twenty
four billion dollars. That mergers failed, but they send over
a billion dollars in legal fees and other fees to
(22:04):
try to you know, get to seek the approval. But
now they're being ensued by Albertson's and all of this
you know, mess between you know, this attempt to merge
has caused you know, we've seen executives make the decision
to increase the price of grocery at the same time
they've been reducing staffing in the storages, not just here
(22:26):
in Colorado but across the country. And it's really everybody
has paid for that, you know, attempt to merge between
the customers and the workers. And so you know, we
are trying to fix this chronic staffing issue. You actually
had done a show and talked to our workers last
year who were fired over security issues the King's Five
(22:48):
and that's part of this fight too, and it's a
staffing issue. We're asking for guards. We're seeing so much
stuff in these stores. There's a lot of crime, whether
it's inside or out sites that take place in these
public stores here, and they refuse to invest in proper staffing,
which we think if there's more people in the store,
it's safer for not only the workers to work there,
(23:11):
but to shop there. And so staffing and safety are
the top priorities in this contract right now. And of
course workers, you know, we have not the union has
not put a wage proposal because the staffing issue is real,
like the Witching five folks, I mean, our members are
constantly having to make excuses and apologize for the high
(23:34):
price of groceries. There's a big deal with staffing, has
a lot to do with price integrity in the stores.
There's simply not enough staff to change in that, you know,
the tags on the shelves or in the system to
match the price of groceries and what they're advertised versus
what goes through the register. And that's causing a lot
(23:57):
of safety issues in our store as well. And we're
our members are our shoppers. They spend all their checks
right back into these stores. And you know, we want
the company to invest in lower prices and more staff
and safer workplace shape a safer shopping experience for the customer.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Kim Cordova, our guest president of UFCW Local seven. Kim,
when and how do you think this will all end?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, you know, I sent a letter to the company
today again, if they resolve the unfair labor practices, we
want to go back to the table. But they there's
critical information they have to provide us around staffing and
they are refusing. The company does not want to give
up any control of hours or staffing in those stores,
even though customers see and experience what we're fighting over
(24:50):
long lines, empty shelves, higher prices. There's departments that are
closed early, and there's not a worker shortage or a
supply shortage in the country. The pandemic was one issue.
All they've done is ride on that success. We're raising grocery,
the prices of grocery, reducing staff, and it's been profitable
(25:11):
for these employers, but for the workers and the customers
not so much. It hasn't been a good deal for them.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, it seems to me this has got to get
worked out and quickly. And the reason I say that
is that it strikes me the King Supers just going
to King Super shopping at King Supers is a big
part of the fabric of Colorado and that people universally
like their King Supers employees. And so I've got to
believe there's so much support out there for King Supers
(25:37):
employees that this will get worked out. So appreciate you
being with us. I'm going to continue to honor the
strike myself. So if you looked at the snack I
have with me right now, Kim. It looks pretty awful
because normally I go to King Supers I get my
certain kind of peanut butter. So yesterday I had to
instacart some substitute from some other grocery store. And honestly,
(25:58):
it looks like somebody got sick on the desk here.
But I will continue to honor the strike and hopefully
it all works out.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, Well, we appreciate your support. You know, we also
represent Safeway workers, and you know we're hoping that King Soupers.
You know, you know we can negotiate a contract that
works best for the workers and the consumer.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Today, all right, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Good you take care, Thank you, and please, I hope
nobody takes my support of the strike as something anti
King Soupers.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I love King Soupers.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I love shopping there, and over the years, I think
it's maintained a high level of quality. I love going
into King Supers everywhere. So I'm not anti Kroger anti
King Supers, quite the opposite, very positive about that. I'm
just pro worker and I've always loved the people who
work at all the different King soupers and just figure
they should get taken care of. So anyway, if you've
(26:56):
got a different point of view, we will certainly send
the Perverse built limo for you. Eight five zero five
eight two five five. Here's the game plan. We've been
talking mainly about a lot of different things. We've been
talking about the Super Bowl halftime show and the bigger question,
because everybody knows it was terrible, the bigger question is
why why are the halftime shows getting worse at an
(27:17):
event that they pour a ton of money into making.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Better in every other way every year? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So why are they letting the halftime shows get worse?
Has there ever been a worse halftime show? Bringing you
some fun sound from the you know, super Bowl, we'll
get into some of the commercials. I thought there were
some really good commercials. Why didn't they show President Trump
more often? First sitting president to be there? And every
time they showed him he got cheered wildly. Taylor Swift
got boots. So we'll continue to play that and more,
(27:45):
and then we will get into some of the really
serious stuff of the day.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're on the Dan Kaplas Show. And now back to
the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Have you thought about what happens if the administration defies
these rulings, then.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
What I'd offer three points on it are likely to
come in that scenario. First, any official who thinks it's
a good idea to disregard what a court orders might
look at the story of Rudy Giuliani, who has lost
his law license, has lost all his possessions, and whose
actions that sacrificed his integrity came at now great personal cost.
(28:29):
It will not be costless for people who decide to
disregard the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, Phil Wiser, then shouldn't you be very concerned with
elected officials who defy federal immigration law. Shouldn't you be
lecturing Mike Johnston and lecturing all your Democrat cronies who
prints around bragging about sanctuary city? And yeah, it seems
to me you've got other concerns right now, my friend,
(28:56):
Now listen that this whole big lie that jd Vance
tweeted out, something that would even imply that Trump was
going to violate court orders is ludicrous. I mean, this
is like, you know, I won't say it's quite like
the coup attempt two point zero, but jd Vance said
(29:17):
nothing of the sort. Trump has done nothing of the sort.
This is desperate Democrats at this point trying to find
something to latch onto that will stop their slide into oblivion.
Actually it's kind of a free fall into oblivion right now.
What were they in the last Quinnipieck poll thirty one
percent proofal in America And I don't know where those
(29:40):
thirty one percent come from. Eight y five for zero
five eight two five to five. Jdvance is threatening nothing
of the sort. And what's happening is in a way
a very positive thing for America. The Democrats are losing
their minds. It's a it's a very obvious communal nervous
breakdown on their part in front of the public. And
(30:01):
that is so important, so important long term, because you've
still got so many people who vote Democrat out of
habit and they have no idea the party is this
whack right now. But now the whackery is hard to
ignore and avoid, and that that's a good thing. That's
a good thing because a lot fewer people be voting
for them in the future. Hopefully here in Colorado too,
Dan f the Union, what's all this.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
F word stuff? Today?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I know we've got to elevate the discourse here f
the unions. Unions equal higher prices and more dollars to
the Communist Party aka Democrats, sincerely, Abe, Well, thanks for
this sincerely. First of all, listen, unions are like people.
Unions are like companies. Unions are like anything else in life.
There are some good ones, there are some great ones,
there are some okay ones, there are some bad ones.
(30:47):
So a statement that broad, I think is just not
credible on its face. When I talk about all I'm
talking about here, I'm not talking about some big global
philosophical thing. I'm just talking about I got a lot
of experience going to King Supers. I got a lot
of experience interacting with those people. I've been involved in
(31:08):
some major litigation against major grocery store chain. I know
something about that industry. I haven't sued Kroger, by the way,
not in some big corporate deal. I've sued him in
some serious injury cases, but not some big corporate deal.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So all I'm saying is I like going to King Supers.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I really like the workers, and I think that the
workers should get taken care of. If I've seen no
evidence whatsoever that if the workers get what they want,
that somehow Kroger won't be able to still make billions
and billions of dollars every year.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And I want them to prosper.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That they provide a very valuable service to our community
and I've always enjoyed going into their stores.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I want them to prosper.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But key to prospering is having a happy, healthy workforce.
And from everything I've heard, I just think I want
to support the workers here. If you have some good
reason not to love to have that conversation. Let's go
to beautiful Problo, Colorado talk to Patrick Defund. The Police
was his T shirt. It was absolutely brilliant. Patrick, Welcome
(32:09):
to the show. I thought, after that T shirt, you
must be calling us from your private jet.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Hello, den boy. I wish not much of a marketer,
but you know, I even gave a lot of them away,
but I was happy to do it. I donated funds
to Heidi's campaign. That's wonderful of them anyway.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So you're marketing your way to have it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
But hey, I was more on your Who's story. I've
been wanting to talk to you since I heard some
of your first comments. My first experience with the WHO
was nineteen seventy one at the Denver Coliseum on the
second night it was a Saturday Sunday show. I had
a ticket. I saw the Who with all the original members,
(32:57):
and all I got to say is that lady called
in earlier. I wish he could have seen that show
or any of the other numerous ones that I saw,
like A Mile High and Boulder. But at the original
show that I saw them at, we were able to
sneak behind some people after the show and get in
(33:18):
backstage and I got to meet every member. That's great
done in twistle.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's a great story.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I bought a guitar that shortly after that, like a
week or two afterwards, and a funny story. I was
just trying to learn to play it, and my mom
was a real jokester, and after about a week she
said I got a suggestion. I said, what's that? She said,
why don't you just smash it like he does?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Thank you, mom, Patrick, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, I'm sure I probably would have received a suggestion
like that if I had a guitar. No, my mom
was totally supportive of everything musical. But thank you Patrick
for that call. Texter Dan, how does she referring to
the union president who joined us. Expect higher wages and
more staff, but you mentioned lower prices. It just doesn't
(34:11):
work that way when King Sooper's profit margins are so low.
Thank you, Texter, great text. Yes, the profit margins are
very low, and I don't claim to be a grocery
industry expert. The profit margins are very low, but they
do a very, very high volume. And that's why, if
the last numbers I saw were accurate, Kroger I think
had net profits last.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Year of three or four billion. And listen, I want
them to prosper. They provide a great service.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I want them to be able to afford to keep
doing it, be motivated to keep doing it, do it
at a high level. But yeah, even though the margins
are low, when you operate on a volume like that,
you can still make billions a year.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Let's just take care of the workers. You're on the
den Kapla show.
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