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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My mindset is not what are they doing for us?
My mindset is what are they doing to us? And
this is what happens when you have one party control
of a state, and especially a party that is much
less interested in freedom or at least certain kinds of
freedom than the other party.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And so as we watched that legislative.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Session go through, it was just one moment after another
where I wanted to bang my head into a brick wall.
And I actually have quite a few friends in the
state legislature, including my next guest, and I actually, you know, Republicans.
I have a couple of Democrat friends too, but I
just for my Republican friends, I feel a little bad.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I'm not being sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, go in there every day doing the best
they can to try to stop all this terrible stuff.
And every once in a while there's a good bipartisan thing,
but not that much of that lately, and thank goodness,
or with a new pope now maybe I'll say thank
God that they're There's that the legislative session for this
year ended a couple of days ago, so joining us
to talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly,
(01:06):
and I think there's not too much of the first
category is my friend Rose pug Lasi, who is State
rep from it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Northern color Northern Colorado Springs. I always forget Rose, I
get all the days. Yes, all right, all right? And
your district number, How's district fourteen? How's District fourteen?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And Rose is the House Minority leader, which means she
is uh herding all those cats. Of the Republican members
in the state House are representative.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So did I mean, do you feel kind of like
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Or is that just because I'm in the cheap seats
and people who are really doing this have a much
different view.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, thanks for having me on Ross. Always good to
talk to you and your listeners. You know, I think
there's a there's some good, a lot of bad, and
definitely some ugly. You know, if we could start with
the good, I would say I think the super majority
was good. Despite the bills that have passed through the legislature.
Having more Republican voices at the table is incredibly important,
(02:09):
and we still have our work ahead of us. But
I think that was a really good step forward. And
you know, we were able with all of our debate
against the Taper resolution and bills that affected the tech
Payer Bill of Rights, that resolution to challenge the constitutionality
of TABER did not come forward, and I credit that
(02:30):
to Republican voices who were engaging with grassroots activists. And
then thirteen twelve, which was that bill that attacked parental
rights and how we raise our children in accordance with
our values. Because of people like you and our grassroots
network and the people who made their voices heard and
(02:50):
national attention, that bill is very different. Still not a
good bill.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Let's stick with that for a second. Let's stick with
that one for a second.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the original version of that bill had a provision
where if there were a kid who and this is
just an example of how it could have played out,
if there were a kid who claimed to be transgender
and wanted to identify as the other gender from the
gender of his or her birth, and let's say the
parents were maybe getting divorced, and there's a potential custody
(03:20):
issue if there was a parent who insisted. So let's
say it's a kid named Joe who wants to be
called Jill and the dad insists on calling.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
His kid Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
A court would have had to hold that against the
dad in a custody hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So yes for the most part. So basically it could
be considered when determining child custody. But we all know
that we want to be able to raise our children
without government interference, in accordance with our values and not
with a certain ideology that's pushed on us. And so
I think, you know, I am. I work with some
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domestic violence survivors and they were incredibly afraid of the
system being used against them and you know, in child
custody cases when they're actually trying to protect their children.
So this was a huge issue.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Was that provision stripped yep, so.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That provision is no longer in the bill. The family
law pieces were taken out, So.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What does this bill do now?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So a lot of the pieces that we were concerned about,
and again, thank goodness, thank god, as you would say
to all of the people who engaged. I mean, over
seven hundred people were going to testify in the Senate.
But I think that so the part that's challenging, I
think for us is there's a portion of the bill
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that says you can change government documents without a court
order for your gender, So not your name, your gender,
so you can go back and forth between being a
male and female a few times without a court order.
And the concern is from obviously a public safety perspective
that if you can be changing these supplement documents, you know,
do we actually know who these people are. I think
(05:05):
that that's a real concern from a law enforcement perspective.
And the other part is, you know, the bill changed
so dramatically so fast that there was not a lot
of stakeholdering with I don't know our county clerk who
also have government ideas that are issued. So I think
that we really should have just you know, not been
(05:25):
able to push that bill forward and had more conversations.
But at the end of session that's how things happened.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All right, Well, we'll keep going.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
This one is a little bit in the weeds, but
I think it's important and interesting. House Bill thirteen fifteen,
the modifications to the Vacancy Committee stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Just do it quickly, but I just want to make
sure we get.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It in absolutely, and I think there's a lot of
misunderstanding about this bill. And this was one of my
bills a priority for me based on the conversations I
had had from across the state. Basically, people in in
certain districts wanted to be able to vote on vacancies,
and so what this bill did is preserve the current
(06:07):
vacancy process and to be clear, unaffiliated do not get
to vote in the vacancy process, but basically allow a
November off your election, so that you don't have a
legislator who's in there for a year and a half
without ever having been voted in. Over eighty eight thousand
people had the opportunity to vote for me. I think
it's really important that they have that opportunity, and especially
(06:29):
our military. I have a big military contingent in my district.
You know, they're not able to participate in a vacancy committee,
but they still want their voice heard on their representation.
And so I know there's a lot of confusion about
this bill that I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, So the participation piece is interesting, and I think
the other the part that has gotten the most attention
just sort of by the general public is how is
it that we have so many people in the state
legislature who were not elected in the seims to address that?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean there's one person who was filled by
a nine person vacancy committee and I'm appreciative of the
Vacancy Committee. I want to protect that process, in the
grassroots process. But at the same time, the people of
that district should have the opportunity to vote on their representation,
and before this bill, they didn't have that opportunity. It
doesn't take effect until twenty twenty seven, so just so
(07:22):
that everybody's aware of that. But I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All Right, let's see pick another bill that you think
is good, and then maybe we'll talk about the bad
and the ugly a little more. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Uh, that's a hard question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, yeah, we had, you know, a lot of good
bipartisan bills. I'm really proud of the work that my
caucus was able to do. You know, I think focusing
on we've spent a lot of time focusing on affordability
and public safety. I think that they were definitely from
public safey bills that were good. But I think really
(08:03):
just focusing on how the grassroots can continue and to
engage and understand the bills that were pasted are really important.
You know, the immigration bill that passed, which basically allows
I thought this conversation was really interesting. Let's protect the
privacy of those who are not here in our country legally,
and from a public BAFE perspective, I think it it
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puts us all in a in a very bad place
when it comes to protecting people. And you know, the
governor is really interesting in this respect, and I think
we're going to see this because there could be a
potential special session. But what I think is really important
is to know that the you know, the Department of
Justice has sued the State of Colorado overpassed immigration policies
(08:51):
that have tied the hands of law enforcement being able
to work with sederal agencies, especially around you know, illegal
and but what I think is really interesting is that
we are talking about the consistent talks about federal funding
being pulled at the same time we have we're passing
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legislation that impedes the federal government from collaborating with Colorado.
And while the governor has said in his state of
the state he wants to work more collaboratively with the
federal government to support those who are in our country
not legally, in our violent criminals, the policies he potentially
is going to sign into places the antithesis of that right.
(09:35):
And then we saw that four million dollars slush funds
to the governors to facilitate litigation instead of cooperation, and
so I really think that the huge disservice to the
people of Colorado, and if a special session is called
because of it, I think we're going to have to
continue to engage the grass roots to get our voices
heard on those issues.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Right because the governor there's a bill and maybe we'll
talk about it. But there was a bill that was
looking to the reform last year's bill that became law
about AI regulations and that build the reforms didn't make it,
and a lot of people are thinking this is a
big enough deal that it might be worth a special session,
and the governor seems to be hinting like eh, and
(10:16):
maybe not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
For a special session. But if the federal.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Government does some stuff, either with funding related to immigration
or with Medicaid funding changes, maybe I'll have a special
session for that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So we'll we'll see.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
YEP, I see all of that potentially coming on the
AI front. Not my strongest area of expertise, I'll be
perfectly honest. Replinberg does all of that for us, But
I think we need to continue to collaborate on how
to protect our kids, but also, you know, make this
a business friendly environment. And I think there is a
middle to be found. It's just it's going to take
(10:50):
a little more time.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I realized it's a Senate bill, but you guys had
to vote on it. I want your thoughts on Senate
Bill five that would you know, basically let unions take
over a lot more workplaces in this state.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
So, you know, we did engage on center Bill five,
and I'll be honest with you, we met with labor
unions leadership did to really understand their position. We met
with the business community, the governor studies going to veto
this bill, and so I guess we you know, still
need to wait and see what happens there. But you know,
(11:26):
President Trump was able to engage with the unions, and
I think that that's an important step even for Colorado
Republicans to at least have those conversations, even if we're
not there on the policy yet. So I think, you know,
still more to come there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I forgot there was something I wanted to mention to you,
just as a little follow up. You were talking about
the the Democrats claiming they want to protect the privacy
of illegal aliens in Colorado, which is just a in
why way, I'm not I'm not an immigration hawk. I
love immigration, immigrants, I want more immigration, I want legal immigration,
I want ill But I'm not an immigration hawk and
I'm not in immigrant That's that's freaking insane. But Rose,
(12:02):
I know you're you know, you're from the Springs and
you're paying attention to state level stuff. So you might
not have heard this thing from the Denver City council,
but they have a program that takes automatic pictures in
certain places of car license plates as they're driving by,
so they can, you know, find stolen cars and things
like that. And they there was a measure in front
(12:23):
of the city council to maybe expand that a little bit,
and they decided not to because they were afraid that
the data might be somehow captured by the federal government
and be used to deport illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I did not hear about that, but I'm not surprised.
I'll be really curious to see the outcome on this
lawsuit with the Department of Justice, because Denver is part
of that lawsuits too. They were sued as well for
their immigration policies. So I think there's a lot more
to come, and I'm with you. I'm a first generation American.
My father came over when he was eighteen with fifty cents.
(13:00):
To say that Republicans don't support immigration or legal paths
to immigration, I think is an unfair assessment, and we
talked a lot about that on the floor. I think
there has to be a call to Congress to figure
out legal paths to be here in this country. But
in the meantime, we need to protect our communities from
violent criminals who are here both legally and illegally.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We're talking with State Rep.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Rose Poglici, who is the minority leader, meaning she heads
the Republicans in the Colorado State House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've got just a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And I'm gonna switch gears a little bit. I would
like to ask you to tell us one or two
bills that you think are very important, that are going
to become law, that you think are very important, but
that the public has not heard much about. Right, we
know about the gun bill, we know about the illegal
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immigrants stuff, we know about the parenting and transgender stuff.
What are some big important things that you think we
might have heard of?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know, I don't know if you all you know
we're tracking the Voting Rights Act. It was gonna bill one.
I believe I have hard time keeping all the numbers
in my head. But this would actually allow the Attorney
General to interfere, in my perspective, with municipal elections, and
(14:23):
I think it takes us down a very bad path.
And so we spent a lot of time talking about
that bill. It did pass, and I think we'll go
into law, but I think that that was a bill
that was really concerning to us. Another one, it basically
allows the Attorney General to interfere with municipal elections when
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there is a claim of some sort of discrimination or
like voter intimidation, which of course nobody wants intimidations in
our elections. And to say that municipal government are not
already prepared to deal with those issues is I think,
really a bad argument. But giving the Attorney general and
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expanding his power, I think is incredibly harmful to our state,
especially when it comes to municipal elections and local control.
So the Fort County Commissioner, that's a hard one. One.
I got killed, But I think is really important is
eleven seventy four. That was a reinsurance bill that also
had a component for free healthcare for those who are
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not here lawfully in our country, and that one got killed,
and I think that was a huge win for us.
The insurance industry was really nervous about that bill, so
that won't we becoming law. That I do think something
to know that the House Republicans were able to push
back upon and did not make it through the process,
So I think that was a big win. Obviously, the
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Taxpaer Bill of Rights constitutionality challenge did not happen as well.
Really proud of our fights against that. So there were
some wins. Definitely some wins for the House Republicans, but
definitely a lot of bad bills coming through well.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Rose. As always, I'm appreciative for you folks who are
in the minority for fighting back as best you can,
getting the public on your side, which is the only
real way to you know, to make politicians change their
votes as people have to show up and testify and
all that. We do our small part here on the
radio show, but you know, you're there having to deal
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with these people every day, and I don't I'm very
grateful for you know, being you're being willing to suffer
the slings and arrows of having to stand around these
You know, they're not all left wing nuts in the
Democratic Party, but some are, and I just I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Doing it every day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It definitely has its challenges, that's for sure, but I
think the work is important, and I think we're all
fighting together. Caucus is really unified, fighting for the cause
and for conservative values at a state level, and we
just need more of us, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Keep working on that state. Rep.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Rose Puglici, minority leader in the Colorado State House of Representatives,
fellow graduate of the Leadership Program of the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Thanks for your time, Rose, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Ross
My mindset is not what are they doing for us?
My mindset is what are they doing to us? And
this is what happens when you have one party control
of a state, and especially a party that is much
less interested in freedom or at least certain kinds of
freedom than the other party.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And so as we watched that legislative.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Session go through, it was just one moment after another
where I wanted to bang my head into a brick wall.
And I actually have quite a few friends in the
state legislature, including my next guest, and I actually, you know, Republicans.
I have a couple of Democrat friends too, but I
just for my Republican friends, I feel a little bad.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I'm not being sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, go in there every day doing the best
they can to try to stop all this terrible stuff.
And every once in a while there's a good bipartisan thing,
but not that much of that lately, and thank goodness,
or with a new pope now maybe I'll say thank
God that they're There's that the legislative session for this
year ended a couple of days ago, so joining us
to talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly,
(01:06):
and I think there's not too much of the first
category is my friend Rose pug Lasi, who is State
rep from it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Northern color Northern Colorado Springs. I always forget Rose, I
get all the days. Yes, all right, all right? And
your district number, How's district fourteen? How's District fourteen?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And Rose is the House Minority leader, which means she
is uh herding all those cats. Of the Republican members
in the state House are representative.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So did I mean, do you feel kind of like
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Or is that just because I'm in the cheap seats
and people who are really doing this have a much
different view.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, thanks for having me on Ross. Always good to
talk to you and your listeners. You know, I think
there's a there's some good, a lot of bad, and
definitely some ugly. You know, if we could start with
the good, I would say I think the super majority
was good. Despite the bills that have passed through the legislature.
Having more Republican voices at the table is incredibly important,
(02:09):
and we still have our work ahead of us. But
I think that was a really good step forward. And
you know, we were able with all of our debate
against the Taper resolution and bills that affected the tech
Payer Bill of Rights, that resolution to challenge the constitutionality
of TABER did not come forward, and I credit that
(02:30):
to Republican voices who were engaging with grassroots activists. And
then thirteen twelve, which was that bill that attacked parental
rights and how we raise our children in accordance with
our values. Because of people like you and our grassroots
network and the people who made their voices heard and
(02:50):
national attention, that bill is very different. Still not a
good bill.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Let's stick with that for a second. Let's stick with
that one for a second.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the original version of that bill had a provision
where if there were a kid who and this is
just an example of how it could have played out,
if there were a kid who claimed to be transgender
and wanted to identify as the other gender from the
gender of his or her birth, and let's say the
parents were maybe getting divorced, and there's a potential custody
(03:20):
issue if there was a parent who insisted. So let's
say it's a kid named Joe who wants to be
called Jill and the dad insists on calling.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
His kid Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
A court would have had to hold that against the
dad in a custody hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So yes for the most part. So basically it could
be considered when determining child custody. But we all know
that we want to be able to raise our children
without government interference, in accordance with our values and not
with a certain ideology that's pushed on us. And so
I think, you know, I am. I work with some
(03:56):
domestic violence survivors and they were incredibly afraid of the
system being used against them and you know, in child
custody cases when they're actually trying to protect their children.
So this was a huge issue.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Was that provision stripped yep, so.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That provision is no longer in the bill. The family
law pieces were taken out, So.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What does this bill do now?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So a lot of the pieces that we were concerned about,
and again, thank goodness, thank god, as you would say
to all of the people who engaged. I mean, over
seven hundred people were going to testify in the Senate.
But I think that so the part that's challenging, I
think for us is there's a portion of the bill
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that says you can change government documents without a court
order for your gender, So not your name, your gender,
so you can go back and forth between being a
male and female a few times without a court order.
And the concern is from obviously a public safety perspective
that if you can be changing these supplement documents, you know,
do we actually know who these people are. I think
(05:05):
that that's a real concern from a law enforcement perspective.
And the other part is, you know, the bill changed
so dramatically so fast that there was not a lot
of stakeholdering with I don't know our county clerk who
also have government ideas that are issued. So I think
that we really should have just you know, not been
(05:25):
able to push that bill forward and had more conversations.
But at the end of session that's how things happened.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All right, Well, we'll keep going.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
This one is a little bit in the weeds, but
I think it's important and interesting. House Bill thirteen fifteen,
the modifications to the Vacancy Committee stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Just do it quickly, but I just want to make
sure we get.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It in absolutely, and I think there's a lot of
misunderstanding about this bill. And this was one of my
bills a priority for me based on the conversations I
had had from across the state. Basically, people in in
certain districts wanted to be able to vote on vacancies,
and so what this bill did is preserve the current
(06:07):
vacancy process and to be clear, unaffiliated do not get
to vote in the vacancy process, but basically allow a
November off your election, so that you don't have a
legislator who's in there for a year and a half
without ever having been voted in. Over eighty eight thousand
people had the opportunity to vote for me. I think
it's really important that they have that opportunity, and especially
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our military. I have a big military contingent in my district.
You know, they're not able to participate in a vacancy committee,
but they still want their voice heard on their representation.
And so I know there's a lot of confusion about
this bill that I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, So the participation piece is interesting, and I think
the other the part that has gotten the most attention
just sort of by the general public is how is
it that we have so many people in the state
legislature who were not elected in the seims to address that?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean there's one person who was filled by
a nine person vacancy committee and I'm appreciative of the
Vacancy Committee. I want to protect that process, in the
grassroots process. But at the same time, the people of
that district should have the opportunity to vote on their representation,
and before this bill, they didn't have that opportunity. It
doesn't take effect until twenty twenty seven, so just so
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that everybody's aware of that. But I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All Right, let's see pick another bill that you think
is good, and then maybe we'll talk about the bad
and the ugly a little more. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Uh, that's a hard question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, yeah, we had, you know, a lot of good
bipartisan bills. I'm really proud of the work that my
caucus was able to do. You know, I think focusing
on we've spent a lot of time focusing on affordability
and public safety. I think that they were definitely from
public safey bills that were good. But I think really
(08:03):
just focusing on how the grassroots can continue and to
engage and understand the bills that were pasted are really important.
You know, the immigration bill that passed, which basically allows
I thought this conversation was really interesting. Let's protect the
privacy of those who are not here in our country legally,
and from a public BAFE perspective, I think it it
(08:28):
puts us all in a in a very bad place
when it comes to protecting people. And you know, the
governor is really interesting in this respect, and I think
we're going to see this because there could be a
potential special session. But what I think is really important
is to know that the you know, the Department of
Justice has sued the State of Colorado overpassed immigration policies
(08:51):
that have tied the hands of law enforcement being able
to work with sederal agencies, especially around you know, illegal
and but what I think is really interesting is that
we are talking about the consistent talks about federal funding
being pulled at the same time we have we're passing
(09:15):
legislation that impedes the federal government from collaborating with Colorado.
And while the governor has said in his state of
the state he wants to work more collaboratively with the
federal government to support those who are in our country
not legally, in our violent criminals, the policies he potentially
is going to sign into places the antithesis of that right.
(09:35):
And then we saw that four million dollars slush funds
to the governors to facilitate litigation instead of cooperation, and
so I really think that the huge disservice to the
people of Colorado, and if a special session is called
because of it, I think we're going to have to
continue to engage the grass roots to get our voices
heard on those issues.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Right because the governor there's a bill and maybe we'll
talk about it. But there was a bill that was
looking to the reform last year's bill that became law
about AI regulations and that build the reforms didn't make it,
and a lot of people are thinking this is a
big enough deal that it might be worth a special session,
and the governor seems to be hinting like eh, and
(10:16):
maybe not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
For a special session. But if the federal.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Government does some stuff, either with funding related to immigration
or with Medicaid funding changes, maybe I'll have a special
session for that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So we'll we'll see.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
YEP, I see all of that potentially coming on the
AI front. Not my strongest area of expertise, I'll be
perfectly honest. Replinberg does all of that for us, But
I think we need to continue to collaborate on how
to protect our kids, but also, you know, make this
a business friendly environment. And I think there is a
middle to be found. It's just it's going to take
(10:50):
a little more time.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I realized it's a Senate bill, but you guys had
to vote on it. I want your thoughts on Senate
Bill five that would you know, basically let unions take
over a lot more workplaces in this state.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
So, you know, we did engage on center Bill five,
and I'll be honest with you, we met with labor
unions leadership did to really understand their position. We met
with the business community, the governor studies going to veto
this bill, and so I guess we you know, still
need to wait and see what happens there. But you know,
(11:26):
President Trump was able to engage with the unions, and
I think that that's an important step even for Colorado
Republicans to at least have those conversations, even if we're
not there on the policy yet. So I think, you know,
still more to come there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I forgot there was something I wanted to mention to you,
just as a little follow up. You were talking about
the the Democrats claiming they want to protect the privacy
of illegal aliens in Colorado, which is just a in
why way, I'm not I'm not an immigration hawk. I
love immigration, immigrants, I want more immigration, I want legal immigration,
I want ill But I'm not an immigration hawk and
I'm not in immigrant That's that's freaking insane. But Rose,
(12:02):
I know you're you know, you're from the Springs and
you're paying attention to state level stuff. So you might
not have heard this thing from the Denver City council,
but they have a program that takes automatic pictures in
certain places of car license plates as they're driving by,
so they can, you know, find stolen cars and things
like that. And they there was a measure in front
(12:23):
of the city council to maybe expand that a little bit,
and they decided not to because they were afraid that
the data might be somehow captured by the federal government
and be used to deport illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I did not hear about that, but I'm not surprised.
I'll be really curious to see the outcome on this
lawsuit with the Department of Justice, because Denver is part
of that lawsuits too. They were sued as well for
their immigration policies. So I think there's a lot more
to come, and I'm with you. I'm a first generation American.
My father came over when he was eighteen with fifty cents.
(13:00):
To say that Republicans don't support immigration or legal paths
to immigration, I think is an unfair assessment, and we
talked a lot about that on the floor. I think
there has to be a call to Congress to figure
out legal paths to be here in this country. But
in the meantime, we need to protect our communities from
violent criminals who are here both legally and illegally.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We're talking with State Rep.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Rose Poglici, who is the minority leader, meaning she heads
the Republicans in the Colorado State House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've got just a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And I'm gonna switch gears a little bit. I would
like to ask you to tell us one or two
bills that you think are very important, that are going
to become law, that you think are very important, but
that the public has not heard much about. Right, we
know about the gun bill, we know about the illegal
(13:53):
immigrants stuff, we know about the parenting and transgender stuff.
What are some big important things that you think we
might have heard of?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know, I don't know if you all you know
we're tracking the Voting Rights Act. It was gonna bill one.
I believe I have hard time keeping all the numbers
in my head. But this would actually allow the Attorney
General to interfere, in my perspective, with municipal elections, and
(14:23):
I think it takes us down a very bad path.
And so we spent a lot of time talking about
that bill. It did pass, and I think we'll go
into law, but I think that that was a bill
that was really concerning to us. Another one, it basically
allows the Attorney General to interfere with municipal elections when
(14:46):
there is a claim of some sort of discrimination or
like voter intimidation, which of course nobody wants intimidations in
our elections. And to say that municipal government are not
already prepared to deal with those issues is I think,
really a bad argument. But giving the Attorney general and
(15:09):
expanding his power, I think is incredibly harmful to our state,
especially when it comes to municipal elections and local control.
So the Fort County Commissioner, that's a hard one. One.
I got killed, But I think is really important is
eleven seventy four. That was a reinsurance bill that also
had a component for free healthcare for those who are
(15:32):
not here lawfully in our country, and that one got killed,
and I think that was a huge win for us.
The insurance industry was really nervous about that bill, so
that won't we becoming law. That I do think something
to know that the House Republicans were able to push
back upon and did not make it through the process,
So I think that was a big win. Obviously, the
(15:53):
Taxpaer Bill of Rights constitutionality challenge did not happen as well.
Really proud of our fights against that. So there were
some wins. Definitely some wins for the House Republicans, but
definitely a lot of bad bills coming through well.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Rose. As always, I'm appreciative for you folks who are
in the minority for fighting back as best you can,
getting the public on your side, which is the only
real way to you know, to make politicians change their
votes as people have to show up and testify and
all that. We do our small part here on the
radio show, but you know, you're there having to deal
(16:30):
with these people every day, and I don't I'm very
grateful for you know, being you're being willing to suffer
the slings and arrows of having to stand around these
You know, they're not all left wing nuts in the
Democratic Party, but some are, and I just I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Doing it every day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It definitely has its challenges, that's for sure, but I
think the work is important, and I think we're all
fighting together. Caucus is really unified, fighting for the cause
and for conservative values at a state level, and we
just need more of us, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Keep working on that state. Rep.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Rose Puglici, minority leader in the Colorado State House of Representatives,
fellow graduate of the Leadership Program of the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Thanks for your time, Rose, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
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