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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christian Camp has settled a lawsuit filed earlier this year
against the Department of Early Childhood.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The lawsuit was initially filed in response to the state's
requirement related to gender identity. Camp idra Haji reached the
settlement agreement with the Department of Early Childhood. It states
that the department will not cite, suspend, or revoke the
camp's license for not following new rules that would otherwise
require a camp to allow campers to use the facilities
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that align with their gender identity. Initially, Camp idra Haji
stated that they were denied a religious exemption for these
new guidelines. However, a spokesperson for the Department of Early
Childhood states none of their gender identity regulations have ever
been applied to or been enforced against childcare providers that
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are religious in nature.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
This developing story over night CBS Colorado Channel four locally
in Denver with the story there Ryan Schuling filling in
for Ross Kominski midweek here on a Wednesday. He should
be back tomorrow. We wish him the best and joining
me now Valerie Leal. She's supported the opposition and testified
at the Colorado General Assembly against house built twenty five,
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thirteen twelve, which would eventually be passed through the Assembly
and signed into law by Governor Jared Poulis. You can
follow her on x at super of my home val.
Thank you so much for your.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Time, Thanks for having me ran your reaction to what
you just heard, Well, yeah, I've been pretty in dept
with this since it came out when the lawsuit was announced.
Watched the rule hearing back from back in December, connected
with one of our legislators to figure out what was
happening and where as they see it as a huge
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victory for Christian camps and religious camps altogether. What I
find interesting is that it appears that the CDC is
trying to cover their tracks for their initial reaction to
Idra Hodge's request for an exemption.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So many questions in the wake of this too, because
this is one case and some people might view it
as a one off for Camp Iydra Hadgi, are there
far reaching implications, meaning would every single other faith based
camp out there that does not want to adhere to
this stipulation that wants a religious exemption have to file
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on their own behalf? Or does this kind of set
the standard for everybody else in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, so my understanding, based off reading a final rule
document is there's nothing listed in there that specifically outlines
that religious institutions are exempt from these policy changes. So
my understanding is, if you want to be exempt from this,
you have to file your own exemption.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't, based off.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
The rule reading, believe that this is going to be
a carte blanche blanket protection for religious camps.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Camp Idra Hodgi.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'd rather have Jesus as what it is short for
is the camp being discussed in this matter. Joining me
is Valerie Laoal and she has testified, as I mentioned,
against House Built twenty five thirteen twelve, recognizing transgender rights,
but even so doing forcing in public spaces. This acknowledgment
and accommodation to be made, which would have included Camp
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Idra Hodgie had they not raised objection to this, meaning
housing those who identify as the opposite gender with the
gender they identify as. Now there's another case pending on
behalf of Alliance Defending Freedom regarding a field trip in Jeffco.
You made this point val in a post on X
that Harmi Dylan had eyes on Colorado and on that
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case in particular, and this is addressed as a concern
of mine which I kind of alluded to in my
opening question for you, which is camp Idra Hodgi is
one thing. I was hoping that case would go to
the Supreme Court and there'd be a similar ruling in
favor of religious liberty that we saw with Jack Phillips
and Masterpiece Kate Shop with Laurie Smith and three L
three creative that would get at the trifecta apparently that
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we need in Colorado. We keep having to go back
to this well on this very same issue. Take us
through your thoughts on where the Alliance Defending Freedom case
stands as Camp Idra Hadgi settles its lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Helps maybe set some precedence, But unfortunately the case that
you corresponding to is a Jacal Public School outdoor lab
camp that they do.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
An interesting aspect with that is that the Department of
Ed has filed an investigation on that particular case here
in JEFCO. So I believe that the Idrahaji win can
set some evidence for that case and hopefully in conjunction
with the investigation that the Department of Ed with the
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DOJ has filed into that outdoor lab case. My hope
is maybe then we can finally have resolution of this
and parents can stop fearing sending their children to camps
or trusting them to individuals who want to force them
into spaces with individuals that are not of the same
biological sex.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Parental writes ABOc at Valerie Leanell joining us here on
the Ross Kaminski Show, Ryan Schuling filling in here on
Koa val We heard and this was a conversation that
Governor Polis had with Ross, I believe, on this very program,
Ross brought him back on for a conversation about thirteen twelve,
and it left a tremendous loophole or blind spot in
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my view in terms of how Governor Polis applied this
logic in signing thirteen twelve and what it left open
to interpretation. Kind of what we're talking about here it
uncharted waters there's not a real definition here as to
who's exempt and why they would be exempt, and is
it religious organizations and would it be across the board.
But Governor Polis basically stated, hey, in your own home,
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you can say whatever you want and if you racist, homophobic,
da da da DA But in the workplace you can't
do that. There are rules against that. But that doesn't
cover everything and everybody else. Lika jack Phillips at Masterpiece
Cake Shop a case that had been adjudicated by the
Supreme Court of the United States in terms of public spaces,
and do accommodations have to be made? And do people
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who have religious liberty exemptions or objections are they to
be coerced into adhering to the gender identity of an individual?
Where does it go from here? Where does it stand
and how much does thirteen twelve being signed in the law.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Have to do with it?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I think that the way they went about with Idra
Hadgie is they took a law that was passed last
year SB twenty four oh seven to one step forth licensure,
and interestingly enough, they started the stakeholding process for this
policy change before the bill was even signed, so the
CDec was planning this being implemented. I think thirteen twelve
bolstered their ability to push that through. And I am
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very grateful to Jennifer say back sac Xy because she's
taking that very exact England saying that because she's a
Colorado based business that thirteen twelve prohibits her from being
able to do business because the core of her business
states men are biological men and women are biological women.
And so I think that that will.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Be the decider here.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
And then there's a.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Couple of organizations that actually filed you against thirteen twelve.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I think people are fighting back.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I think businesses are tired of sitting down and taking it.
I think none of us believe poll Us anymore. He's
very good at making us stay silent, like he did
during COVID. And I'm hopeful that people are finally breaking
out and saying this impacts my business, this impacts my
one A rights, This impacts my ability to raise my
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child the way that idem my child should be raised,
and the governor can't tell me to do otherwise.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Follow her on ex super of my home. Valorie Lail,
our guest. Just a final thought here from you, Veil,
as people continue to watch, and I'm glad you brought
up the Jennifer Say xxx one athletics case that is
working its way through the courts. We mentioned the Alliance
Defending Freedom case on behalf of those involved with the
field trip in which a trans identifying student was to
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be housed in the same hotel room as a young girl.
So as we watch both those cases proceed, as we
watch what just happened with camp Idrahaji being granted this
religious exemption.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Are these laws?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Are these regulations that are on the books in Colorado?
Do you believe they're on thin ice? Where does it
go from here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I am actually very hopeful that if we locally cannot
push back on the constitutionality of these laws, that we
do have a DOJ that is very interested in protecting
our rights, and they've already signaled multiple times that they
are keeping a close eye in Colorado. I think it's
just a matter of time before all these boils have
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to be rolled back or you know, we'll have our
funding pulled at the least for some of our programs.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Parental rights advocate Valory Lee joining us here today to
open the program, Veil, thank you so much for your time,
but more importantly, thank you for all the hard work
that you're doing on the front lines of this issue.
I appreciate you personally and know a lot of our
listeners do as well.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Thank you so much, Ry, I appreciate your show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All right, Vale joining us here, your reaction and response
five to six six nine zero via text is how
you can join US.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The Ross Kaminski show continues after this, coming up at
the bottom of the hour. My conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert.
You want to stick and stay for that.
Speaker 10 (09:31):
Prime Minister Netanyahu to New York City for the for
whatever he comes for. Given the US is not the
signature to the ICC, so he can travel to the
US unlike a lot of other countries with a mamm Donney.
Welcome Benjamin heto the city.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
As mayor New York City with arrest Benjamin Netanya, who
this is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are.
Speaker 10 (09:51):
Also, even though the US is not a signature of
the ICC.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
No, it's time that we actually step up and make
clear what we are willing to do to showcase the
leadership that is sorely missing in the federal.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, apparently in New York City, you don't mess with
the Zoran. To paraphrase the Adam Sandler film, this is
Zoran Mamdani, now the Democrat nominee for New York City mayor.
There are some technicalities as it pertains to rank choice voting.
He did not exceed fifty percent, so there will be
some tabulations coming up. But Andrew Cuomo, I think, has
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already conceded the nomination to Zorin Mamdani and you hear
him there. There are so many contradictions in this individual.
He is a socialist self avowed. He is far to
the left of Andrew Cuomo, who I'm not a big
fan of, and that won't surprise you, But sanity in
governing New York City a bit of a requirement our
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biggest city, capital of the world in many ways. And
what this reveals to me is New York City either
living in a bubble or they just haven't gotten it
bad enough.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
The Blasiol wasn't bad enough.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Eric Adams at this point running as an independent former
Republican at one time kind of veered to the left.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
But then he's been sobered up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I won't say he's been red pilled, but my goodness,
in comparison to this guy, and this is just the
tip of the iceberg. First of all, how is he
going to arrest Benjamin Nett? And Yahoo wins? Zora and
Mamdani has called for defunding NYPD and abolishing police altogether.
You know, acab all cops are bastards. This is that guy.
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This is that guy. He wants to eliminate prisons. This
dude is literally insane. But hey, he makes TikTok videos
and he campaigns and glad hands and kisses babies.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I guess that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It worked for AOC and she's now a credible threat
to Chuck Schumer for.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
That Senate seat.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
If you thought what Mam Donnie just said about arresting
Benjamin Nett and Yahoo was crazy, get a load of
this ghosty.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Prices are out of control.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The cost of eggs and milk skyrocket. The thumb stores
are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over
the course of a day depending on what they can
get away with. It doesn't need to be this way.
I'm Zarambani, and as mayor, I will create a network
of city owned grocery stores. It's like a public option
for produce. We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets
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to city owned grocery stores whose mission is lower prices,
not price gadget. These stores will operate without a profit
motive or having to pay property taxes or rent. It
will pass on those savings to you.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, where has this been tried before? What could possibly
go wrong? Oh, that's right. The Soviet Union tried this.
It ended up in breadline squalor, despair, poverty, and the
overthrowing of the longest standing communist dictatorship on the planet.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Now it's China.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Then prior to the fall of the Soviet Union in
garbage shop, it was the Soviets. This has failed everywhere
it's been tried, with the exception of China. But there
are reasons for that. But think about Cuba, Venezuela, and
everybody always says that's of the Democratic Socialists of America,
like Zoraanmondani is it just hasn't been done right socialism,
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And Bernie Sanders says this, it just hasn't been done
the right way. We just do it the right way.
It will work. It will not work, it will end
in total failure. And this is what he's advocating for,
publicly owned and run, government funded and subsidized grocery stores
with no profit motive. Fake that one through. This guy
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is an anti capitalist. He will undermine everything that New
York stands for. From a freedom and liberty standpoint, this
guy is a box upon the city, but they just
voted for him to be the Democrat nominee for mayor.
A time out, we're back bottom of the hour News
and then Representative Lauren Bobert on the other side, Ryan
Schuling filling in for Roskaminski on KOA.
Speaker 12 (13:52):
We have we basically have two countries that have been
fighting so long and so hard that they don't know
what the fuck did doing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You understand that President Trump in brass texts terms, and
that's how we love him best. Outside the White House
as he was preparing to a board Marine one and
joining us now Representative Lauren Bobert. You can follow her
on x by that very handle at Lauren Bolbert. She
was just commenting on the ceasefire between Israel and Iran
broker by the President within the last day or so,
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and she joined us. Representative Bolbert, thank you for your
time as always.
Speaker 13 (14:28):
Hi, it's so great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Ryan, absolutely, and I just want to get your thoughts
on the time between the strikes that we heard about
on Saturday, the fact that there were no leaks but
a lot of complaints from the Democrats in Congress where
you reside, unfortunately about their not being information shared. And
yet the mission success may have been in large part
due to the fact that President Trump kept this under
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the vest and kept his circle small.
Speaker 13 (14:55):
I think President Trump did exactly what he should have done.
President Trump is labeling this as a twelve day war.
This may be the only thing that I disagree with
President Trump on because I believe this is a fifty
year plus war and President Trump brought somewhat of an
end to it within twelve days. He is certainly saying
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we have done our part. And President Trump put out
a notice saying within two weeks, folks will know more
of what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
It was a.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
Stealth operation sent in D two fighter pilots and went
in and took out the threat of the enriched nuclear
in abran And I think that was a wonderful thing
that President Trump did by preventing them from having a
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nuclear there. This is something President Trump has been outspoken
about for more than a decade. It's something that every
president has said since Bill Clinton. At least President Trump
has been the only one to do something about it.
So now that nuclear enrichment site is gone, it is
oblivery obliterated, and now we are at a ceasefire. And now,
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of course new word today, President Trump is not very
happy with Israel, who unleashed a lot of fire firepower
on Iran right after the twelve hour waiting period was announced,
and we heard the very descriptive way that President Trump
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came out about them, and that he is not happy
with that. But I still believe that President Trump has
done as much as America can do, and the United
States of America has stood with Israel, will stand with Israel,
but we are not going to have World War three
on their behalf.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Representative Lauren Bolberg joining us now.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Within the last couple of hours here, Lauren, we've seen
various reports, divergent reports, not surprising one from CNN, one
from Fox News saying that the level of destruction of
the nuclear sites might have been less than we anticipated,
only setting back Around's nuclear program for a few months.
Department of Defense, Trump administration White House has come out
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and disputed that assessment or whatever the sources are on that,
And we're receiving word that Intel updates provided members of
Congress both the House and the Senate have been paused
on Iran.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
For the time being. What's the latest as you know it,
as you see it.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
The latest is I know it is what President Trump
has said. I believe that we have done exactly what
we said that we would do, and we have the
best military to execute the mission that was executed in Iran.
President Trump and Secretary Peak Seth have worked tightly together
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in this to ensure that Iran can not have a
nuclear power, a nuclear warhead. And with the amount of
enrich nuclear that they had, they were very close to
doing so.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
And you know, if it's CNN.
Speaker 13 (18:18):
And the Democrats and others want to say that they're
only a few months away from rebuilding, while President Trump
is going to ensure that they cannot have nuclear powers.
Speaker 14 (18:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
So we are at a place now where I.
Speaker 13 (18:33):
Believe that just as President said, President Trump said that
this this threat is now gone, and Israel and Iran
need to come to a point of an agreement and
decide to have peace within the Middle East. This is
something that Republicans want.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
This is something that has been.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
Longed for for decades along party lines or throughout the
party lines, I should say, and we do not want
to be involved in forever foreign wars. So this is
the time for peace. President Trump expressed its frustrations with
ongoing missiles that were launched, and I don't think that
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we will see much more of that after President Trump
has emphatically stated his position, because either way, Israel needs
us if they want to continue this, and it doesn't
sound like President Trump and certainly Republicans and Americans don't
want this to continue. So there has to come to
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There has to come a point where we come to
the table and actually have this peace agreement, rather than
only knowing that this is the enemy and this is
what we do, and we bomb and we fight, and
we have strife and contention. It sounds a little bit
like the Republican Party in Colorado. If we're going to
get down to it, it's like all we know is defeat.
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So that's what we're going to continue to do. But
take the victory, take the piece, and move forward.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Congresswoman Lauren Bobert representing Colorado's fourth congressional district, Your colleagues
on the other side of the isle, Lauren, we know
that they're desperate and they're flailing, and there was apparently
an impeachment vote, and we saw l Green bring in
and We've heard Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries talk about that
these attacks by Donald Trump on a round were unconstitutional,
and then Representative Jasmine Crockett Star that she is Democrat Texas,
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said this is to understand enough about the constitution to
they send that I'm the one that's supposed to make
a decision.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
Or at least get a vote.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm the one who's supposed to make the effing decision
or at least get a vote.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Well, I don't want her.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Making those decisions. That's what we elected President Trump for.
And a couple of things Congresswoman Bobert, and that is
the last time Congress had a formal declaration of war
was eighty three years ago in the wake of World
War Two. Vietnam technically wasn't a war authorized by Congress.
Neither was the Korean War, Operation Desert Storm, the War
on Terror, the War on I rock none of those.
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And plenty of presidents Democrats and Republicans have authorized attacks
as commander in chief. We may not agree with them,
let's say, by Barack Obama or Bill Clinton in Kosovolt,
but they were done and it was within the constitution.
What is this argument from the Democrats about Donald Trump
violating the Constitution.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Here, here's the deal.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
First of all, Jasmine krock of, I hope they'd let
her keep talking because the more she talks, the more
people understand that Republicans just want sound policy, theyn't want
America First decisions.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
And also, she was not here.
Speaker 13 (21:42):
Under Barack Obama when Democrats allowed him to drop thousands
of bombs all over the place. You know, there wasn't
anybody who ever criticized him for the work that he
did without congressional approval. And now they're saying that this
is a violation.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
So I guess.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
Maybe they knew it then, but we're going to give
it a path or whatever the excuse may be. Even
Chris Cuomo has said, Democrats, where were you then? I'm
one of you, And where were you then? You didn't
criticize Barack Obama? But now you're going to criticize President
Trump for his involvement. And what President Trump did is
is more effective than anything we have seen by any
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other American president throughout this time period. President Trump went
in without a single American casualty, went in and destroyed
a nuclear facility.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
And I ran because he said they.
Speaker 13 (22:38):
Cannot have these nuclear war powers, and that's exactly what
he accomplished, and he brought our troops home safely. Now
there has been strife in the Middle East and we're
trying to find an end to that. Like I said,
this isn't a twelve day war. This is twelve days
to end decades long of war that's been taking place
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in the Middle East.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
President Trump is.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
A man of peace and you have to show strength
to get to that piece. We've been saying that it's
not a broken campaign promise, as even some of my
colleagues on the Republican side would would say that this
is broken campaign. He promised no new wars. This isn't
a new war. He's ending something that has been going
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on for decades, and he is bringing peace through strength,
just as he promised on the campaign, peace through strength.
He exercises the strength that we have through the most
powerful military force in the world, our US military, and
now he is looking for peace. So the Democrats you
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want to impeach him and say, well you got to
freaking go through me or whatever she's going to say.
You know, they are just beside themselves because they cannot.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Win on policy.
Speaker 13 (23:58):
They know mom and dads don't want to mutilate their children.
That we don't want men and women's sports, and we
want a strong economy and lower inflation and strong borders,
secure borders, and to deport illegals. And so this is
their new shiny object to point out, such a.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Good way to put that. Representative Lauren Bobert joining us.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
One final issue topic that I'd like you to address,
and you kind of let us into it here, Lauren.
That is, we've seen commentators, especially those that are very online,
that are ostensibly on our side of the political spectrum,
but are very much opposed to the action that President
Trump took in around talking about Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens,
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even like you said, some of your colleagues, Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green and Thomas Massey, who I know you're close
with personally, and I like him.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
I liked look at some of those not all of
those themes.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
But yes, well now I'm talking about Massey in particular.
You know he was against this. He's principled. I respect that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But on the big beautiful bill as well, it is
going to address a lot of what you're talking about,
the order security part of it also addressing our economy
the needs of that. There are a lot of loose
ends to tie together. I don't envy Speaker Johnson. I
know you don't as well trying to herd cats and
get everybody to pull in the same direction. But here's
what Representative masse He said about the Big Beautiful Bill
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once it comes back to the House after amendments are
made by the Senate.
Speaker 15 (25:20):
But Randon did say that if it came down to it,
he was the deciding vote, he would vote in favor
of it.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Would you do that for the Big Beautiful Bill? Would
you do the same thing?
Speaker 16 (25:27):
No, no, I won't, And in fact, I would love
to have that opportunity, because you know what happens. If
we take down the Big Beautiful Bill, we write a better,
for better, more beautiful bill. It doesn't have the warts
and canker sores that this bill has.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
One that doesn't bankrupt the country.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Negotiations. Trump knows this.
Speaker 16 (25:50):
Negotiations don't start and tell one side, says no.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Representative overt Dandy Don Meredith on Monday Night Football once said,
if ifs and butts were candies and nuts, we'd all
have a Mary Chriss you've got Massy on this side.
I get his point, But then on the other side,
you've got the representatives Republicans from California New York that
want the salt state and local tax deductions included in
the bill. I don't know how you thread this needle.
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By going in one direction or the other, you were
able to pass this out of the House. Is representative
Massy being unrealistic in terms of what is actually possible
right now in a narrowly divided House.
Speaker 13 (26:25):
So that's a tough straight yes or no answer, because
Thomas Mathey isn't wrong on a lot of his position
by any means, and many of us, including myself, even
held our nose to vote for the initial passing of
the big beautiful bill out of the House. There are
many great things, and Ryan, I believe that you have
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a very diverse audience that listens to your show, and
so I want to get both sides of this correct.
First of all, we are not going in and just
taking Medicaid and Medicare from everyone who actually needs it.
We want to go in and have strategical reforms where
you're taking able bodied adults out of the system. And
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we're working on the negotiations of the time, the timeframe
for that now with the Senate to see what that
actually looks like.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
There is a big.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
Money laundering scheme where a state puts in one dollar
and the federal government puts in a dollar thirty three
for all of the folks who are actually eligible for medicaid.
But then when you get illegal aliens and able bodied
adults included in that system. Well, now, when the state
puts in a dollar for those able bodied adults and
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illegal aliens, the federal government it's coming in, I'm putting
nine dollars.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
For those same people.
Speaker 13 (27:43):
So it's a huge money laundering scheme that we've got
to get right. That's something that we are working on
currently with the Senate to strengthen this.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We want a.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Secure border, we want to unleash American energy. We want
to defund the green news scam. We want no tax
on tips and no tax on over time. And there's
even some provisions there for a suppressors to remove those
from the National Firearms Act, and so much more. We
want to end snap eligibility for illegal aliens. And so
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there's a lot of great things in here, but I
get Thomas Matthews's position on basically what could be described
as an omnivous bill, a big bill that can includes
so many things. But this is not a budget bill.
This is a budget reconciliation. It's our only opportunity to
avoid this filibuster and actually get policy wins and financial
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and fiscal wins in this term.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
With our slim majorities.
Speaker 13 (28:40):
So there is some give and take. But as the
bill sits in committee in the Senate, I'm a no.
I am a no on this bill the way the
Senate is revising what the House is sent over, and
so we've got to ensure that we are getting this
language right. When it comes to Inflation Reduction Act subsidies
for green energy, which is very unreliable and really just
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messes up the market dramatically, and we could spend an
entire segment on that. I won't today, but we've got
to make sure that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
We have to make sure.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Illegals are not eligible for snap.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Benefits for Medicaid.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
We want to have no tax on Medicare for the
majority of our seniors, and no tax on overtime, no
texting gifts, all these things, and so we've got to
keep the pressure on the Senate to send us a
good bill back. But I mean, as of today, I'm
a no if the Senate sends us what they are
currently working on in committees without correcting this. So Thomas
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Matthew is not wrong. But also there is a ground
where we say, this is our opportunity to actually pass
something meaningful that will secure our border and unleash American
energy and do things for our economy and the working
class in America.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
So is the bill no? Is it big?
Speaker 13 (30:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Is it beautiful? It could be, And so where.
Speaker 13 (30:06):
We're currently putting pressure on the Senate to make sure
that we at least get what we sent over from
the House and maybe even a.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Little bit more.
Speaker 13 (30:15):
The salt productions again, we could spend another segment on
that alone. But what New York and California are demanding
for salt cap is absolutely insane. And Ryan, we are
a sault state. We have those state and local taxes
that are subsidized by the federal government. And still I
don't think it's right for folks in Kentucky and Florida
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and other states that don't have.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
State taxes to pay in to.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
Subsidize for bad Democrat polity policies that are taxing their
people out of affordable living scenarios.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Representative Lauren Bobert joining us, we appreciate her time, and
she describes right there the delicate balance that I spoke
of out earlier in the interview between Speaker Johnson having
to accommodate maybe the likes of Representative Thomas Massey, the
fierce fiscal conservative libertarians like him that probably are not
going to vote for a spending bill of any kind,
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and like Representative Bolbert, I don't begrudge Thomas Massey that
I think in principle, in theory he's right. In an
ideal world, he's correct. But in order to get things done,
lovers of government that sort of thing. This is the
quandary that Republicans that are true conservatives when it.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Comes to fiscal spending, budget, etc.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That to get elected, they're telling you that they're going
to advocate for less government, which is great.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I'm totally in favor of that, But in order to.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Undo a lot of what has been done, you need
to take action with the power while you have it,
and the Republicans have a tenuous grip on that with
a bare majority in the House, which includes Representative Thomas Massey,
which includes Representative Lauren Bobert, which includes as a pivotal
vote in an election that he won by the skin
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of his teeth, Representative Gabe Evans in the eighth Congressional
District of Colorado. So what Speaker Johnson has to do
here is threat a needle and the bill is not
going to be perfect if so many disparate views, interests, etc.
The pork barrel spending, we know it's a problem. This
bill is way too big and there's way too much
spending in it. I agree with Thomas Massey about that.
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I agree with Senator Ran Paul about that. But the
problem is you're not going to get anything done. You're
not going to move the needle. The Democrats win with
inaction by the Republicans because they're able to run out
the clock and use this ineffective governance to run on
in twenty twenty six in the mid terms, where the
Democrats figure to gain seats in the House and perhaps
control of the House, especially if it's to do nothing Congress.
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While the Republicans campaigned on all of these things they
said they were going to do, they control the executive branch,
with Trump winning the presidency and they control the Senate
by a fifty three to forty seven margin, that bare majority.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
In the House that I spoke of.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But if you go too far in the fiscal conservative direction,
cutting spending, you know, kind of slicing off, pairing off
here and there, well, now you're going to lose the
kind of middle of the road Republicans who barely win
their races, whether it's California, New York, and there are
plenty of those which constitute the margin for the majority
that you have, and now they're going to fall off
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if you eliminate these assault exemptions, these salt deductions that
Representative Bobert spoke of right there. So it's a delicate game.
It's a difficult balancing act. It's not easy. Like I said,
I don't envy Speaker Johnson, but I want to get
your thoughts as well. At five seven seven three or
excusity five six six nine zero, going to unprogram myself
from the other place over there, fifty six six ninety
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and we got a lot of comments coming in. I
need some ranch to go with this word salad. Okay,
fair enough, putting a camp on the no tax on
overtime defeats the entire idea. Yeah, well right, the more
overtime that you claim, then you want that to be
tax exempt under this policy. You're exactly right. There's a
lot of debate too. No tax on tips Is that
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a fair exemption? Well, I would say, for those that
are in the service industries that rely on tips for
a good portion of their income, why should they not
be able to exempt those sums from taxes the same
way that wealthy individuals who have offshore accounts and are
able to kind of put their money away and put
it in tax free shelters, that sort of thing. I
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think that should apply. What's good for the goose is
good for the gander. What's good for kind of the
investor class should be good for the working class as well.
And that's why me personally, I do support the no
tax on tips and I do know that that is
a big reason why Donald Trump flipped Nevada finally, he
had lost it twice to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
He won Novada against Kamala Harris. I think in large
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part due to that particular policy.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
A time out.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
When we come back, Laura Thomas will join us former
dougco commissioner.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
The home rule.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Initiative special ballot last night voted down in Flames. We'll
talk to her about that. She was against it from
the start. On Ross Kaninski, Ryan Shuling filling in on Koa,
it's an island in the oasis and he should be
back to mar Ryan Shuling filling in and inviting your text.
Got a lot of those after my conversation with Representative
Lauren Bobert. We'll get to some of those in our
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next segment. Fifty six six ninety the number you can
call joining us now. She is the former Doug CO
commissioner who was opposed to establishing home rule in Douglas County.
That vote going down last night and going down in
Flames by a number resembling I don't know something that
would be almost unanimous in a county that leans red.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Seventy one twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Laura Thomas, our guest, Laura, thank you so much for
your time, first of all, and secondly, is that margin
surprising to you?
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Seventy one to twenty nine.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for the opportunity to be on the radio.
So I didn't want to tempt state yesterday and predict
that we were going to win. But I knew talking
to people and watching social media and interacting with the
public that they were disgusted by what these commissioners were
trying to do, that they were trying to slip something
past them and steam roll the public by doing this
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so quickly behind closed doors. So I am so pleased
that almost thirty percent of the voters showed up yesterday
for a summer off term election, and I think they
sent a huge repudiation not only to the commissioners but
to the Douglas County Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Other items on the ballot it says home Rule, Charter
Commission at large for District one, for District two, District three.
Pardon my ignorance on this, but the fact that home
rule gets voted down entirely. Are those other selections now
moved or is there still going to be a commission formed?
Speaker 9 (36:50):
That's a great question. It's a moot. It's moot now
because the voter said, Nope, we don't want to do this, ye,
So that means the Charter Commission will not be gauging.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And further that point, Laura Thomas joining us, I'm just
looking at the results and they kind of speak for themselves.
The numbers, not just the one I mentioned, but for
the at large spot on the Home Rule Charter Commission.
Here we have the chair of the Board of Commissioners
Douglas County, George Teele, who I also interviewed on this
subject along with you on either side of this. He
was lagging well behind a vote for three, it says,
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and his vote total was a distant fifth on this list.
So even if they had formed the commission, he was
not going to qualify in those top three.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
What does that number tell you?
Speaker 9 (37:36):
That number should tell the commissioners that the public doesn't
want any part of this. They just want the commissioners
to govern for the people that elected them, that represented them,
and that public does not want any part of this
nonsense of home rule, especially the way they snuck around
behind closed doors and tried to shove this down the
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voter's trips.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Laura, it's not that you were opposed to the concept
of their being more independence when it comes to Douglas
County and making its own decisions, but you just didn't
grant the premise that this home rule vote was going
to amount too much in that regard. So with that knowledge,
with that basis, with that platform, and how the voters
turned out in such large numbers against it, Where does it.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Go from here?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
You've talked about this before, but what would be a
more effective means for voters in Douglas County to go
about getting more self determination in their county.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
Well, I don't know that there's any way that we
can just in fact, there's no way that we can
just say we're not going to follow these state laws. Right,
we have to follow state laws. And if we don't
like the state laws they're coming down, then the Republicans
need to work on getting candidates that can win, and
when we can win elections, we can govern.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Laura Thomas, she is a former member of the Douglas
County Board of Commissioners, and she can't came out rather
forcefully against this issue of home rule, and it went
down to defeat, as I mentioned, by a vote of
seventy one twenty nine. I was looking at this. Maybe
it was like you said, you didn't want to jinx
the outcome, Laura. I get that, but that it was
probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty
five to forty five either way, and was will an
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excess of that. So this kind of method of getting
the information out to the public, As you mentioned, this
is an off year, off season election, it's the middle
of summer. Getting people to turn out. That's a difficult
kind of row to hoe. And yet, like you said,
you were effectively able to get this message delivered to
the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
What do you attribute that to.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, maybe an interview like this one and other
radio hits that you've done, But how was that message
able to get out and how were the voters able
to respond to it in time?
Speaker 9 (39:50):
For Ryan, I've been involved in Douglas County politics for
twenty years and what I have learned is that it's
one on one communication, meeting with people, communic hitting with
them somehow. I was very active on next door, on Facebook.
I did my newsletter three or four times a week,
reaching out to people, and I was part of a large,
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non partisan group of people who came together and said,
hell no, we are not going to let the Commissioner's
ruin our county with this nonsense. And there was a
lot of door knocking, there was testing, there was mailing,
and we have the facts on our side. That's how
we were able to do this.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Laura.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You mentioned in this Facebook post about how there was
basically an end around, and you touched on that as
we began our conversation here, and that it wasn't so
much about home rule the issue like surface level. And
when I look at it and I talked to you
about this before knee jerk reaction, I would be well,
if so and so was against this, well, therefore I
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default to being in favor of it. But you looked
under the hood, you got into the devil of the
details here and what you're suggesting here. I mean, this
is pretty strong language review that it was a phony
sales pitch, that these individuals like George Teele were looking
out for their own self interests to what end was
What was in your mind the motivation behind this other
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than just that surface level home rule. Hey, we're looking
for self determination for Douglas County and to not follow
state laws that we don't like.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
So that whole thing not following state laws was all subterfuge.
What we need to remember this is the fact that
the commissioners and their inside cronies were sneaking around for
months before the commissioners bothered to tell the public that
this was going to be an election. Yesterday on June
twenty fourth, there were supporters that filed paperwork with the
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Secretary of State at the exact same time the commissioners
were putting this on the ballot, And so it was
that those insiders that I believe were going to benefit
from home rule in the long run. I can't prove
what they were up to, but if the commissioners really
wanted to do this for the public, they would have
had several meetings with the public and engaged with us
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before they put this on the ballot. But they didn't
do it. So any reasonable person would say, hmm, there's
something else going on here, and that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Or Thomas joining us.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
She's a former Douglas County commissioner, and she came out
publicly against this home rule initiative. Laura, you didn't have
to do this. You chose this, and you chose this
battle knowing that it would cost a tremendous amount for
you personally in terms of political capital. I'm sure you've
taken more than your fair share of slings and arrows
from people that would ostensibly be right of center on
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the political spectrum, and I guess my question for you
is is it worth it? The outcome of this is
their vindication in that and for you personally, I know
you're not doing it necessarily for those means, But what
does this mean for your future in the Republican Party?
Speaker 6 (42:57):
If there is.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
One thank you to hit the nail on the head,
the future of the Republican Party is what we're talking about. Look,
I was a major with the State Patrol and Durango
when I bought my house in Highland Ranch because I
knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life here.
I love this county. It is beautiful, that people are amazing.
There's no other place I want to live, and home
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rule would have changed that in a bad way. And
so my husband and myself and my friends helped me
over the last ninety days to educate the public about
why they needed to say no to home rules, and
they did that. So it's a new day, and let's
hope that the commissioners heard the message, they answered the
phone call, and they don't do this again.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
It was a dramatic and emphatic victory for Laura Thomas
in her side opposing home rule in Douglas County again,
it goes down by a margin of seventy one twenty nine,
an eye opener, to say the least, and Laura Thomas
a driving force behind defeating it. Laura, congratulations on this
political victory. We thank you for your time. I look
forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Hey, thank you again. This was a win for the citizens,
and there were there was an army with me. I
didn't do this by myself or Thomas.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We appreciate her and she's always been good to me
and joining me and providing us with her time today.
Filling in for Roskominsky, I'm Ryan Schuling, got a text
along those lines fifty six six ninety.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
I just tuned in. Where's Ross? He called me.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yesterday saying he couldn't move an appointment for today, So
I'm filling in just a one time only type deal
and he should be back tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Dragon said, so you didn't. I'm just putting that on you.
Speaker 17 (44:34):
Ross is washing his legs, did it once or twice a.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Year that he actually doesn't. He's so he's a little busy, so.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
It's less frequent than a car wash for him. But
need to do some maintenance for ros Komenski there, but
you can still text the show fifty six six ninety
in particular what you just heard. If you live in
Douglas County and you would be affected by the outcome
of this election, what do you say to the seventy
one to twenty nine margin opposing home rule in this instance?
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I know there are a lot of prominent members. George
Brockler I talked to George Teel was another one that
were in favor of home rule. That it might while
it might not be this panacea of what we hoped
it would be in self governance, that it will least
be a step in the right direction. There are only
are a couple of other counties that have home rule
in the state of Colorado. I want to hear from
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you fifty six six ninety more of your text as well,
reaction to my conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert. Straight ahead
and coming up at the bottom of the hour, looking
forward to Stephen L. Miller Versus media podcast host makes
his home right here in Colorado. A lot to cover
and tackle with him in the news that was over
these last forty eight hours. Back with more after this
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on Koa Brian Schuling filling in for Ross Kaminski fifty six,
six ninety. The argument against home rule is basically, quote,
it was a power grab. Who are we taking the
power from a bunch of corrupt Democratic politicians?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Says this Texter.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I will take a power grab by conservatives over a
power grab by Democrats any day, and saying that Laura
Thomas is another example of a so called Republican that
is siding with the Dems, and we'll ensure that Republicans
are always impotent in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Maybe that is her goal.
Speaker 8 (46:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well, what I originally said was I got a post
on X from a follower of mine that said, right
next to this neighbor's Black Lives Matter sign, so it
might as well be like in this house, you know,
no human is illegal, we believe in science, all this stuff,
And right next to that sign was no on home rule.
So that's where I automatically came to, Well, well, wait
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a minute, I don't know a whole lot about this
home rule, but I got to do some research of
my own. But if I lived in doug Coe, my
default position, just based on that observation would have been
yes on home rule. But it went down in flames
seventy one to twenty nine. So that's just the brass
tax of the matter. We'll take this time out, come
back with more Bottom.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Of the Hour News straight Ahead.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Halfway through the Roskomenski Show, Ryan Schuling filling in on Koa.
Speaker 18 (46:54):
They're not going to be fighting each other that they've
had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids
at the school yard. You know, they fight like hell,
you can't stop him. Let him fight for about two
three minutes, then you.
Speaker 8 (47:04):
To stop him.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
And then daddy has sometimes strong languages strong everybody you
have to use a certain word.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I think now that is drawing a lot of response
and reaction to the NATO Secretary Mark Ruthe, the Dutch
guy who currently runs NATO, calling President Trump daddy, but
in the context of what Israel and Iran are doing
in the wake of the ceasefire agreement, the kids are fighting.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Trump's use that analogy.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Daddy's home, he's not happy, he's angry, He's going to
drop an F bomb. Did he have congressional authorization for
the F bomb? Don't know, don't know, Probably didn't. And
then of course the media seizing upon this opportunity asks
Donald Trump about the NATO Secretary General calling him daddy.
Speaker 19 (47:49):
Mark writter, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He
called you daddy earlier? Do you regard your NATO allies?
Kind of two drend Now he likes me.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.
Speaker 12 (48:05):
Okay, now he did it, very affectionate.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
Daddy. Here my daddy.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Well, our next guest, he likes it when you call
him big poppy, I think.
Speaker 6 (48:15):
And he's Steven L. Miller.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He's the host of the Versus Media podcast, keeping a
very sharp lens on the media coverage of all this,
and he joins us on the Ross Kevinski Show.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Stephen, welcome your response to Donald Trump being called daddy.
Speaker 8 (48:33):
I'm just shocked that Democrats haven't impeached him yet over
dropping an ulict d ask bomb without congressional approval.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Well, it's interesting this response over the last twenty four hours.
I was commenting on this off air before I was
filling in today for Ross, just about how the media
is looking to spike the football about Well, you might
not have totally damaged or obliterated, to use President Trump's word,
the nuclear facility these in Iran, and then Representative Jason
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Crowe was asked about that and he seemed to ever
so slightly maybe maybe back away from the intel assessments,
which he assures Kate Baldwin that he saw.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Several members of Congress is that how they were reporting it,
including full committees?
Speaker 13 (49:17):
Have seen or have access to this report?
Speaker 15 (49:21):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Have you had a chance to?
Speaker 15 (49:24):
I have, And I'm not going to speak to this
specific intelligence So all I'm going to say is that
Donald Trump has a long history of distorting and you know,
putting his own take on US intelligence assessments regardless of
what it actually says.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
And you know, we are.
Speaker 15 (49:39):
Going to see in the days and weeks to come
that the truth and the reality of these reports in
these assessments. But Donald Trump's you know, continued distortions about
what happened and what didn't happen. You know, That's that's
what he does. He continues to just do whatever he
wants to do, which is unfortunate because I went to
war three times for this country. I went to Iraq
and Afghanistan, deployed as an army ranger, and frankly, we
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spent twenty years and trillions of dollars at war as
a nation because the politics drove that decision instead of
the intelligence. It's a very dangerous position to be in.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Representative Jason Krowe from right here in the sixth Congressional
District of Colorado accusing Trump of distorting intel assessments. But
Steve and I seem to recall some intel assessments that
were based on a Steele Dossi I used to obtain
FISA warrants that didn't turn out very well.
Speaker 8 (50:30):
Yeah, the important thing to pay attention to with this
stuff is who's doing the reporting. And this morning you
even have Morning Joe, of all people out there warning
about these stories and the elaks that are coming, and
the primary reporter that pushed this is Natasha Burg trying
to CNN. She was the reporter at Political at the
time that pushed the fifty intel letter that Hunter Biden's
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laptop was not real, it was a Russian operation. And
then of course she kind of made her name with
some of the Steele Dossi elites. So when you see
that kind of track record, you kind of get an
idea of who her sources are, and likely you know,
the Biden adjacent intelligence officials. And so when these are
some people who still haven't had security clearanceive leak and
so you have to be skeptical when you see that
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kind of track record. And I see these things and
I'm and I guess I'm probably more in tune than
just the average normany listener viewer. But that's when I see,
when I see this person's name attached, I kind of
write it off, and I guess I look at it,
and I also say, so, what like if we only
set their horn regular capabilities back by a few months, Okay, well,
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we'll see you again in a few months. And one
of the things that the story doesn't assess is the
fact that we might not have hit all of their reactors,
but we did knock out most of their developmental capabilities.
And that's something that isn't being assessed in this league,
and that's something that would set these these this regime
back by years, maybe even decades.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Follow him on x at red Ste's He is a
must follow on that platform, in my opinion, and you
could subscribe to his substack, listen to his podcast Versus
Media as well, where he tackles a lot of these
issues in much greater detail. This one you had pointed
out on your ex feed, Steven, and I found it
amusing as well. Aaron Burnett just casually remarking to Dana
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Bash on CNN about protesters in Tehran being friendly to
CNN despite what they were chanting.
Speaker 14 (52:25):
But the question is whether or not the commp can
remain when the regime is that is still there, who
wants death to America, debt to Israel stays in place.
And that is part of the discussion, right.
Speaker 20 (52:39):
Yes, absolutely part of the discussion. And you know, I
remember Dan at one point being in Tehran years ago
and they're chanting death to America all around me, even
as I say, oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN,
and they were happy to speak to me. So those
two is sort of jarring realities of the chant and
yet the friendlyiness have existed together together.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Steve, I mean this is the equivalent of fiery but
mostly peaceful death to America.
Speaker 8 (53:07):
Chance, right, Yeah, I don't fight it shocking at all.
The people who are chanting death to America are very
friendly with people at CNN. That's one of the least
shocking developments that's recent history. But yeah, this is kind
of CNN's what's funny is there really is a protest
contingent inside the borders of Iran that don't want this regime.
And I think that that's going to be up to them,
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It's not going to be up to us if that changes.
And here's CNN not promoting that contingent there, instead promoting
the fire, like you said, fiery but mostly peaceful, death
to America people. And it's reminiscent of what John Carey
said when they were trying to facilitate this nuclear deal
that would have triangulated Israel into a two state solution.
Is they were trying to get support for the Iran
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deal up. And so John Carey once said, you know,
the death to America chan is only intended for a
domestic political audience only, and it's not intended for the
the world. And so it's there's no real parsing of this.
And this is what I always kind of find funny
is that, you know, the people who find nuance in
a circle game and the people who see white supremacy
everywhere tell us that we have to attach certain political
(54:13):
nuances to sayings like death to America and globalize the Intafata.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Steven el Miller often does this. He leads me right
into another clip. You mentioned the name John Kerry, the
former Secretary of State, former candidate for president nominee by
the Democratic Party, former senator from the state of Massachusetts,
John Kerry on with Chris john Amanpour CNN, and he
talks about here the enormous risk of regime change in
(54:40):
Iran and whether that concerns him.
Speaker 11 (54:42):
Oh, I think that's an enormous risk. I think it's
beyond a risk. It's the greater likelihood because they're the
people with the guns and with the military power, and
if you look at Evan prison and the way people
have been treated and so forth, we know that these
guys haven't been natural good act in so many ways,
(55:02):
you know. I think that what's important here. I mean,
none of us who've been involved in this over the
years looked happily at the choices that Iran has made,
feeding the power of Hesmola, the hutis supporting Hamas and
engaging in internal activities that we inherently really find repugnant.
(55:26):
But we have to find a way to try to
solve a problem. That's what we did with President Obama.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
So in spite of all these things that he mentions
and acknowledges Steven that Iran was doing, Obama had it
handled with the Iran Nuclear deal.
Speaker 6 (55:39):
What's to look at here?
Speaker 8 (55:41):
Yeah, yeah, he was handling it. Like I said, I'm
kind of always of the belief that Obama was attempting
to facilitate a nuclear weapon with Iran and that was
to be used pressure Israel into a two state solution
with Palestine and the Goadza strip, and all you have
to do is kind of look at Obama's one comments
and his personal history on this topic to see that
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that's not.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
So far fetched.
Speaker 8 (56:06):
It is interesting to me that the CNN, the network
who you know, when something like this goes down, they're
so reflexively anti Trump to whatever he does, that we're
going to bring on the guy who was mostly responsible
for the fact that Iran picked up to this moment
that was going to have to be dealt with eventually,
and that now they're even bringing on Joy Reid. They
saw Joey Reid's and sanity at MSNBC and decided that
(56:28):
they needed to get in on some of that, and
that's kind of what that network does, regardless of facts,
regardless of nuance. This is a network that is so
just anti reflexively anything that this president does, which some
is good, some is bad, but they have to jump
into the aid to twenty pool in the minority side
of public stance on any of these issues. These Iran
(56:49):
strikes were wildly popular. This is a country that's you know,
kind of been in the thumbinar eye for the last
forty five years, and no one's you know, talking about
a ground invasion, no one's talking about we're three here.
This is something that had to be done because of
the incompetence of the previous past two democratic administrations.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Steven el Miller our Guests Versus Media podcast. He is
the host and I appreciate his time today. You mentioned
the networks having difficulty trying to navigate coverage of this.
In many ways they're rooting against its success, saying, oh,
it's just a few months that they set this back.
This leak. The source on the Intel reports are telling
us that, so don't give Donald Trump and our military
(57:29):
too much credit. This really drew the ire of President Trump, who,
as you know, Stephen was in rare form yesterday morning,
dropping the F bomb beforementioned and then lighting into ms
DNC as he calls it, and CNN right here, and
you know, the fake news.
Speaker 12 (57:44):
Like CNN in particular, they're trying to you know, they're
trying to say, well, I agree that it was destroyed,
but maybe not that destroyed. You know what they're doing.
They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives in
the line. CNN has scum and so is MSDNC. They're
all Frankly, the networks aren't much better the golf fakers.
But they should not have done that. I vote, pilots
(58:06):
hit their targets, and targets were obliterated, and the pilots
would be given credit.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
Okay, you get that from the president, and a lot
of people make fun of his whole fake news characterization
of the media, but they keep playing into it, Steven,
with every step they take.
Speaker 8 (58:23):
Yeah, a lot of this is, you know, a lot
of this is the game that Trump plays for his
bass to kind of rev them up. But Trump is
also kind of the guy that when he needs to
get a narrative out, he's on the phone with every
single one of these networks, whether at.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
ABC, CNN, CBS.
Speaker 8 (58:36):
He did this one his his tip shall we call it,
with Elon Musk, as well as the Iran strikes. He
was on the phone to Dana Bash at CNN the
very next morning. And we know that if you know
Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, listen her story
that ah source close to Trump. We know that that's
Trump on speed dial. And so a lot of this
is kind of the game that they played back and forth.
(58:58):
But you are right in the sense they do take
the ban on a lot of this stuff because the
view is lashing out of them as a badge of honor.
Speaker 6 (59:06):
So there is this.
Speaker 8 (59:07):
Strollish kind of relationship between the two. So when Trump does,
you know, he takes the truth and if he calls
out a reporter by name, the reporter uses that and
then they take it in the frame it for their office.
And you know, I've always been kind of one, right,
I kind of think the president should be above a
lot of that. But I realized that a lot of
his voters, they love this, They eat this stuff up,
and it is just kind of who he is at
(59:28):
this point that we've been dealing with it for ten years.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And not only that we see the aftermath of how
the media covered Joe Biden and these sudden epiphanies that
Chuck Todd and Jake Tapper or have Yeah, exactly, And
I just want to touch on a couple of these.
In a remarkable exchange where the meme of Bruce willis
from die Hard looking down saying welcome to the party,
pal applies, Here's Jake Tapper replying to Chuck Todd, who
(59:55):
said the original sin for him was Joe Biden running
in the first place in twenty twenty with all these
only problems going on that none of.
Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
Us knew about.
Speaker 21 (01:00:02):
Somebody close to the family told us, and it's that
this is in the book that everybody knows. You know,
some of the family aphorisms like you know, my word
is a Biden or you know, et cetera, et cetera.
A lesser known Biden family saying is don't call a
fat person fat, And by that they mean it's not
about being, it's not about politeness. It's about hiding truths,
(01:00:24):
not acknowledging truths. And this person close to the family
suggested that there are lots of truths that the family
did not want to face up to One bo is dying.
Two Hunter is addicted to drugs. Three Joe Biden cares
about his family more than he cares about anything else.
Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
And those three are not true.
Speaker 21 (01:00:49):
This family, this person close to the family said and
and and that's when you talked about his running in
twenty twenty. I think that that comes to bear because
obvious he was putting his ambition and if you want
to be charitable, his hopes to save the country from
trump Ism or whatever. Obviously he was putting that above
what was going on with his family and his two
(01:01:12):
children and their struggles.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I'll take things we knew back in twenty twenty for
one thousand, Alex and Steven Jake Tapper trying to do
some revisionist history here, maybe some cleanup on Aisle nine,
saving face.
Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
Is he getting any of that done?
Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
You know?
Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
And anyone who's listening to me know this is kind
of my main topic of the moment. Every time he talks,
he does more damage to the fact that they did
ignore Joe Biden's condition for four years, and they did
try to just kind of write this off, and their
hope was to just kind of drag his bones across
the finish line so they could swear Kamala Harrison on Juneteenth.
And one of the things shure that's not mentioned, it's
(01:01:52):
only mentioned about a paragraph in Jake Tapper's book, is
this is a president who refused to acknowledge a granddaughter
for the duration of his presidency, refuse to acknowledge their
seventh granddaughter because you know, Hunter Biden found it to
be inconvenient. And it's the president where if he was
a man of character, if he was a decent mat
if as a family man, he would have grabbed that
little tipsweak degenerate by his ear and told him to
(01:02:14):
get out there and support his children. And instead we
didn't have that. We had Joe Biden write in her book,
you know, dedicating it to her six grandkids. And this
is a story that the media absolutely refused to touch
until Marine Dad wrote one op ed about it, and
then they released a press release to People magazine.
Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
This is a.
Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
Perfect example of again Jake Paper likes to use the
term we just missed the story of buying the client. Sorry,
we didn't see it until the debate, when we all
saw it for four years, including Larch Trump, which is
rightfully been thrown kind of back in his face. But
this is this is a media who coddled him and said, well,
we can't ask sensitive questions. They did a week long
(01:02:51):
news cycle of Donald Trump walking slowly down a ramp,
including bringing on several neurologists, so we see how these
rules bend and shift depending on who's inn office.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
And then finally the coupda gra Here Chuck Todd just
wondering aloud if the last forty years of Joe Biden
was all alive.
Speaker 22 (01:03:09):
Look, I mean, you know you and I covered you
know for most of our professional lives. The story of
Joe Biden was this guy cared about his family so
much he commuted home every night from Washington.
Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Now here's by the way, here's the by the way.
Speaker 22 (01:03:20):
You know what else you could say is this man
was so ambitious right after his uh family went through
that tragedy, he commuted every day.
Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
To work, right right, Like it's the same story. So
he had his narrative, had his sister help, right, I
don't I sit here.
Speaker 22 (01:03:35):
I look at this and the and and and I
think where we sold a forty year bill of good
Stephen was Chuck Todd hoodwinked.
Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
Yeah, the reason they're doing this is to kind of,
you know, localize a blast radius and try to minimize
the blast radius and the fallout of what we learned
about Biden post debate and then why he's forced to
drop out, and then in the coming months we're going
to look learn exactly how bad this was, which all
leads to who was actually running the country. And what
you have here are two guys who are paid to
(01:04:06):
inform people, that is their job as supposed you know,
newsmen and network journalists, and they're the least informed guys
in the room. They have they have the memory of
a goldfish. Every time they wonder aloud a point to
one another. And again, the reason for this, and the
reason for Jake Tapper's book, is to make sure that
we don't blame the media for this or that they
were not a part of this, when we have several
(01:04:28):
instances that prove they were part of this. And this
is Chuck Todd's way of doing that. It's a way
of protecting journalists, protecting the mainstream media, and only putting
this on a handful of people inside Biden world. And
the reason they're able to do this because that that
orange is dried up. Biden's has cancer. He's probably not
gonna be with us for very much longer. Jill Biden's
not running for senate. Hunter Biden's you know again, the
(01:04:50):
drug idle, degenerate. He you know, the media can't get
anything out of him like they could Chelsea Clinton. And
that's why they find that it's really easy to do
this as opposed to say if this was the Obama family.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You can hear a lot more on his Versus Media podcast.
Subscribe to his substack, follow him on x at red
Ste's that's ste Ze.
Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
Stephen L.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Miller making his home right here in Colorado and keeping
an eye on the national media. Stephen, great stuff, as always,
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Thanks Bryan, anytime right, Steven L.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Miller joining us here on the Ross Kaminski Show, Ryan
Schuling filling in a lot of conspiracy theories out there
about why Ross is missing. Sure, says this texter at
five six six nine zero. I'm buying it that Ross
had an appointment he couldn't move. Why would he schedule
an appointment during the time he's supposed to be on
the air. Semi professional? Indeed, Wow, what a blast. Usually
(01:05:42):
those are the same for me. Here's a couple from
the same Texter Oh, Ryan and Fox was a beacon
of truth ever said that, don't.
Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Change the subject.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
It's not the red laser pointer cat thing that John
Fetterman talks about. And following up, Trump always exaggerates everything
to self aggrandize or bereat other people. Yes, never denied
that portion of it. Uh to some people, that's part
of his charm and appeal. My point is always this,
I have no problem with the media holding Trump in
(01:06:14):
his administration their feet to the fire, demanding answers details,
what's going on here, getting the scoop, putting the reporter's
press pass hats on those old tiny guys that are
just jumping on cigars, you know, old fashioned journalisming. But
then they abandoned the pretense of that in what we
just talked about, Steven L.
Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
Miller and me, Chuck Todd, Jake Tapper.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
If they applied that same scrutiny, that same level of
skepticism to Joe Biden over the last five years of
however long his entire career, he was let off easy
when that wasn't the case going back to nineteen eighty eight,
remember when he plagiarized Neil Kinnick, and he was called
(01:06:59):
out out by Sam Donaldson the mainstream media led newscast.
Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
It forced him out of the race.
Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
But now the media post Obama has morphed and evolved.
Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
Into this propaganda machine for the left.
Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
That's not what it's supposed to be, the equal opportunity
adversarial media.
Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
And count me in, and I'm in.
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I'm not saying go easy on Trump, but if you're
going to go hard on the Orange Man and says
you know this existential threat to democracy, which is a
bunch of bunk, then go ahead and hold Joe Biden
his administration their feet to the fire night after the fact,
in a book where you can make money when it's
your job and your reputations on the line show up
(01:07:40):
tough then and then I'll believe you, but I don't
believe them.
Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
And that's part of this conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
A time out, we can come back top of the
hour break for news and then Alicia Garcia the latest
in the fight for the Second Amendment here in Colorado,
and remembering a hero from Arveda from four years ago,
Ryan Schuling in for Roskamenski.
Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
This is KOA.
Speaker 23 (01:08:01):
It was what looked to be a normal Monday until
a shooting in Old Town, Arvada led to the killing
of beloved Arvada Police officer Gordon Beasley and forty year
old Johnny Hurley. And as of Friday, we now have
a more detailed look at what happened that day, a
timeline laid out by police. At twelve forty nine, the
shooter's brother called police to warn them, saying Ronald was
going to quote do something crazy. Officer Beasley and another
(01:08:24):
officer responded to Troyki's apartment at one oh eight, but
couldn't find him. Nine minutes later, police got a call
about a suspicious person in the Old Town Square and
that's what brings us here. One point thirty one. Police say,
that's Troki pulling into this parking lot. Officer Beasley shows
up and walks through an alley towards the square. That's
him at the top of the screen, but you can
see the shooter grabs what police say is a shotgun
(01:08:44):
and runs towards Officer Beasley, even passing people who just
happen to be walking by. The shooter gets to Officer
Beasley and will pause the video here. Police say Troki
shot Beasley twice. The shooter then goes back to his
truck and grabs what police say was in AR fifteen.
It does not sh what happened next, but police say
Hurley shot the gunman. When officers got on scene, they
(01:09:05):
say they found Hurley holding the suspect's gun. Police now
confirm an officer shot Hurley. Still police again calling Hurley
a hero Friday for stopping the shooter and saving lives.
Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
A very dark day and a bittersweet day, as it
would turn out, John Hurley a hero mistakenly identified as
the shooter. Everything happening, it's a blur, I get it
or Beta police in that moment June twenty one, twenty
twenty one, that from nine News, which you just heard,
and commemorating the fourth anniversary of that over this past weekend,
(01:09:38):
our next guest, Alicia Garcia. You can find her at
the second syndicate as well.
Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
We'll give you those details.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But this conversation struck up in a series of texts
between Alicia and myself and she joins us, Alicia, thanks
for taking.
Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
The time, Hi Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
I'm doing all right?
Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
And I just look back on this incident, and I
think about what the tribute to John Hurley could have
been if all had worked out and he would have lived.
Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Now we would have lost the police officer.
Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
That was a tremendous tragedy in that moment, but losing
John on top of that made it even worse. Can
you reflect upon the events of that day as you
see them, and why the two A and the fight
for it is so important when it comes to John
in this case.
Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
I remember this pretty vividly and hearing about it.
Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
And wondering, you know, what happened in the course of
those events that led to the demise of such a hero,
because you know, when I saw the videos and I
looked at what had happened, I knew right away, you know,
just being somebody who's involved in firearms and trained avidly
that this man trained, He knew exactly how to use
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cover and canfilment.
Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
He knew it.
Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
You know, he flung into action when other people would
have ran. He took it upon himself to be.
Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
A hero and get things done.
Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
You know, I heard from different sources that I won't
say that. You know, there's an actual video out there
that I've seen that says. Cops said, Hey, you know,
we didn't even feel that we had the proper equipment
to act in the moment, and yet a civilian with
his handgun that he had concealed, flung into action and
he took down a man with a shotgun and a rifle.
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So the man went to his he used the shotgun
to commit an act of violence, came back to the vehicle,
grabbed the ar and then John Hurley was up against
a area where dumpster was popped out of concealment, out
of cover, excuse me, and was able to neutralize that threat.
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And you know, we haven't seen any video footage of what.
Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
There were being told is happening.
Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
And that really bothers me, because there's somebody who trains
to understand cover and concealment and a proper cadence of
making sure that he's landing every single one of his
shots with intention and purpose, which through the video you
can absolutely see he did that. It kind of baffles
me that someone also knowing those things wouldn't also know
(01:12:04):
not to you know, reach down, or have a firearm displayed,
or do certain things when you know emergency services are
being called.
Speaker 7 (01:12:12):
So I'm very.
Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Curious to see as to if that actually is what happened.
But nevertheless, you know, we're so often to recommend the
names to everyone of victims lost and violence, but we
have a hero here that also his name deserves to
be reverended and to be spoken about because John Herley
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is the type of person we want armed. And there's
plenty of people like him in.
Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
Society in Colorado that are that type of person. And
yet we still have lammakers.
Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Using the excuses of mass shootings and active shooters to
disarm people when it's you know, the writings on the
wall here. There's plenty of John.
Speaker 9 (01:12:54):
Hurley's in the world, and what are we doing to
not only celebrate them, but.
Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
To empower them.
Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Alisa Garcia our guests. We always appreciate her time and
her insight on matters like this. You can find her
website and the hub for that is the Second Syndicate
dot com, the Two n D Syndicate dot com, and
she does a podcast biweekly along these lines as well.
We'll get into the recently passed gun law, which is
(01:13:22):
one of the most egregious overreaches and infringing upon our
Second Amendment rights really in national history. Elisia, But just
a couple of questions that I've always had, and you said,
you've seen the video, and I'm not going to leave
this to speculation, but to your informed opinion on what
happened that day and why you mentioned that the Arvada
Police said that they did not have the tactical equipment
(01:13:45):
or capabilities to counter the shooter the gunman in real time,
and yet they were able to take down John Hurley.
Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
So I'm looking to square that circle.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
And if there's anything in retrospect, I know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but that John himself, if if you were to advise
somebody in his position, a civilian who is armed that
is trying to do the right thing, if there's anything
he could have done differently to avoid the outcome that
awaited him.
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
You know, the only thing that I think about, and
I mean this is the ugliness of the situation. Is
the reason you train with firearms is avidly, as I do,
and as I recommend my students to do.
Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
So.
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
I'm also firearms educator and am in.
Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
My firearms company.
Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Is can Filled Carry Class of Denver. If anybody is
interested in taking can Fill Carry class, just google that
you'll find us is I always tell them you have
to think and prepare about the before, the during, and
the after of a defensive shoot. And the reason you
train the way you do is because you're taking that
conscious effort of how you handle a firearm to how
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you would handle a firearm subconsciously, with repetated, with practice
and with you know, information and educating yourself on the
best practices. And I always teach my students that done
is always the plan Z right. You always if you
can be escalate, if you can do anything you can
before having.
Speaker 22 (01:15:04):
To go for the gun, do it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
Because the most important thing that we all should think.
Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
About every day of our life is staying home right.
Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Getting home safely and in sound and keep love yourself
to stay alive. But that's what happened that day, right,
there's an active shooter.
Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
Something to happen.
Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
And I mean, I can't tell people how to live
their life. I know what I would do. I would
absolutely be a John Hurley. I would absolutely be a
protector in society because life is precious and that is
why we train it for situations like that. The only
suggestion I have to people is you know, be able to.
Speaker 9 (01:15:39):
Counteract that narrative.
Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Have a cell phone able to you know, once you
use a gun in self defense, or use that to
pick up the phone and say, hey, this is who
I am, this is what I look like. I had
to use my firearm in defense of life. Someone was
trying to kill somebody.
Speaker 9 (01:15:54):
You know, this is what I look like.
Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
This is who I am. Because in a situation, say,
you know you do have to use fire arm and
self defense, and you know, a car drives by or
someone only gets a glimpse and all they see is
you shooting someone. They don't know who the bad guy is, right,
they don't know what you were doing. And if there's
two people with the gun, how do you know which
which was the good guy and which was the bad guy.
So the only way to do that is count count
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of that narrative. It's quickly then, you know, call nine
one one, tell them who you are, tell them that
you were acting in defense of yourself because you're can
still carrying and hang up the phone. After emergency services
and have an attorney and invoke your fitth Amendment right
and have your attorney talk to the cops, because you
never know what the narrative is going to be you know,
hindsight's twenty twenty, and you know, I want to I
(01:16:39):
want to pass judgment. You know, I want to say, Okay,
you show up to the scene and someone's and this
is because of the speculation. We don't know what happened
that day, but if a man is standing over another
man who has a handgun and someone has a rifle,
I would assume it would be you know, it would
prove you as a person of you know, authority to say, hey,
drop your weapon, case them, do something to bring them down,
(01:17:01):
because that person has information.
Speaker 9 (01:17:03):
That we need to know and we need to know
what they were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
Are you are you potentially allowing yourself to be considered
a suspect?
Speaker 11 (01:17:11):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
Do you deserve a day in court? Yes, you absolutely do.
You deserve to speak up, you deserve to defend yourself,
and you also just deserve to be armed. And I
just think about it, like, why are we celebrating, you know,
the lost and also not celebrating the heroes as well,
Because when I was speaking to John Hurley's mom this
weekend at an event that they had for him in
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Old Town Ravada, one of the things that she said
is that, you know, we always always respect and honor
Officer Beasley as well because she died that day. But
you know, people don't want to don't want to focus
on that, They don't want to see that that It
is about celebrating everybody that died that day and celebrating
the lives.
Speaker 9 (01:17:53):
That are saved because someone did what they did and.
Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Took action and protected countless lives. I mean, the cop
that literally shot John Hurley is alive because of John
Hurley and Alicia Garcia.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
You can follow on x at Boomstick Babe. She's on
all thesocials. Second Syndicate dot com is where you can
find her. Remembering John Hurley. The anniversary of that unfortunate
series of events in Arvada over this past weekend, marking
four years, and Alicia told me she wants to go
on and have an even bigger and better celebration of
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John Hurley's life and his sacrifice next year, in twenty
twenty five, that'll mark twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Rather, that'll mark.
Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Five years since the incident took place, And of course
it will nearly coincide with the new gun grab bill,
the magazine band, the forced coerce training that you have
to pay for in order to exercise your Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
That goes into effect August of next year. A time out.
Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
We're back with more Ryan Schuling filling in for Ros
Kaminski on KOA. There's just a lot of negative energy
out there. I know, it's kind of gloomy.
Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Filling in. My apologies. Ross isn't here.
Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
There are a lot of speculation and conspiracy theories as
to why, including this one Ryan. I think Ross got
sick by accidentally eating some blue cheese. That's why he's
not in. Is there a blue cheese avoidance issue for Ross?
Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
He can't have it desperately hates blue cheese, hates it.
Bell Pepper's Yeah, yeah, oh wow. I love them both.
Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
And when you order wings at a restaurant, I mean
you're one of two people, just like Luma Thurman says
in the deleted scene from Pulp Fiction, you're either an
Elvis person or your Beatles person. You didn't like them both,
but you like one more than the other. And in
this instance, when you go order wings, are you a
ranch or blue cheese guy?
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Go neither? You just toot the wings themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Okay, wow, straight up, you're pretty fierce I'm a blue
cheese guy, love blue cheese. Cannot stand Ranch. It's like
Elmer's glue. That's my opinion. Now many of you out
there may disagree, and you're big Ranch people hitting Valley Ranch.
Speaker 7 (01:19:55):
No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
Let's get to some more.
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Tell Boomstick Baby to keep up the great work. I
will I have and I'll do it again. This is
like fringe alt right podcast level stuff. At least Ross
talks some facts and tries to think for himself. You
sound like you're trying out for Fox News that Texter
didn't have enough. Another bite at the Apple. Let's give
this person one more to another one here. I thought
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Ross's show was tough to listen to, but this is
just terrible. I feel like I'm listening to an OAM broadcast.
Why is right wing news fixated on Biden when he's
not even president on top of all the insanity happening
in the world. Classic the version technique, because while he
was in office, none of this scrutiny was being applied
to him. This is what you miss, Texter, and now
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it's after the fact, now he's out of office. Where
were the Jake Tapper books and the Chuck Todd scrutiny
while he was in office.
Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
You know where it was.
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
It was buried because they were afraid the Orange Man
was going to win. And what happened anyway? All right,
to break this to you, the Orange Man won, so
despite all their efforts to conceal Biden's obvious semility, which
if you were honest with yourself you would admit that
you saw too. But they were telling you. Don't believe
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your lying eyes. They are deep fakes. I don't like
being lied to. Maybe you do, and Kay, in fact,
you must like being lied to because you continue to
consume the same media feeding you the same play to crap,
even with lu Cheese on it. See how I brought
that full circle. Time out, We're gonna lighten things up.
Jamie Lissou joins me. He's coming to Comedy Works South
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in December, but I couldn't wait until then. He's a
great guy. He's very funny. You've seen him on Gutfeld.
You'll hear him here next, Ryan schuling in for ros
Kaminski on KOA. Jamie Lisso going on tour for comedy
and he's coming right here to Comedy Works. Eventually he'll
make his way here in Greenwood Village. He's been here
several times before. We look forward to him coming back
and he joins us now, Jamie, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
Hey, thanks for thanks for having me back. Man. I
owe I think am. I mentioned this last time we talked,
but my favorite thing about Denver. It was one of
the first that comedy works out. I had just done
the full a few times. I swear, this is not
a bit and I pulled up to where the club
is and there was a huge line, and the manager
was driving me, and I go, what's going on tonight?
And he guess, what are you talking about? That's lines
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for you? And I go, what are you talking about?
I thought it was like a line for other people.
So I've always really appreciated the the support from Denver.
I think I think I am that way because I
used to do veguas all the time the ex Caliber
back in the day, and every time we go down
for a show, there'd be a huge line and it
was for the Thunder from down Under, and then no
one would come to our show.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Could you give the people what they want, Jamie, which
is a little bit of your Thunder from down Under?
Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
I wish I wish I had gone that way. We dude,
we shared a dressing room, me and I guess. I
guess it would be more of an undressing right right.
But I swear to again at the ex caliber that
we share a room with those guys.
Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Now, I just realized I may have been saying your
name wrong all these years. I was saying, like lisal
and I'm sure you hear that a lot, but it's Lisso?
Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
Man?
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
Maybe I've been seeing it wrong. I give both a lot.
I see Lisso, but gottshaltz Lissau.
Speaker 8 (01:23:12):
I know he does.
Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
Does he do that intentionally control you?
Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
I think? For My mom told me, could you please
tell him how to pronounce our name correctly? I said sure,
and I told him several.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Times, and then I was like, this is not changing,
you know what, I'm going to follow your mom's lead
and not Greg's.
Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
I think that's the better idea, just on the whole,
don't you?
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
And I go, I go mad? Do you understand how
badly I need Greg gooseld.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
I got another clip from another show that you appear
on with him. At just a moment, Jamie Lisso our
guest I mean he's coming to Comedy Works South.
Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
It's in December fourth through six.
Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
But give me a heads out because his tour starts
at the Improv in Hollywood, Jamie, go big or go home?
Speaker 7 (01:23:54):
Right, That's right, man, that's right. I'm going to go
big then go home. See what I've just said.
Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Why the Improv? Why Hollywood? Why start there?
Speaker 7 (01:24:05):
It's a great question. We just wanted to see how
we would do at the Hollywood Improv because we kind
of thought that might be one of the tougher places
for us to Celtics because there's like so much going
on and you know that area, and we are very
very man. It's almost sold out, and so we we
do real, we do real, real long in California, dude.
Colorado though Colorado has been I mean it is tied
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for first with my absolute favorite places to perform with
people really come out.
Speaker 11 (01:24:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
The first time I went to Denver, I didn't know
about like your elevation and all that stuff. I didn't
know anything. I'd never been and I called the club.
I go, hey, I'm just checking in. I'll be there
at like seven, and the manager goes, hey, bring oxygen,
and I go listen. I'm not the most famous comedian
in the world, but I feel like that's something the
club should provide. I had no idea. I love those canisters, man,
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I get a whole case of those canisters. I don't
know if they do anything, but I like him.
Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
That's a good luck. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
And his tour goes from, as I mentioned, December Greenwood
Village Here, a comedy work South and all the way
through the mid part of January.
Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
So buckle in. I guess, Jamie, this is a long tour.
Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
You know, how do you prepare yourself for something like
this because it's an act and the people that are
coming to see you, they're seeing it for the first time,
but you're doing it either over and over. You're making
some adjustments. Can you take us through that part of
the process and how you plan for this and how
you deliver.
Speaker 7 (01:25:26):
Yeah, so I'll be tired of this act by Saturday,
but I will. I'll tell you what it's actually it works.
I sort of fashion my new hours based on what's
going on in my life, and so I'm sort of
shedding a little bit of the divorce dad. You know,
I make a lot of jokes about my ex wife
on TV and on jows and just to let you
know all that stuff. It is just it is just
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jokes based on facts, you know what I mean. Yeah,
and this new act is like like I just got
I got married on Saturday. Congratulations, very shirt, and I'm
actually calling you on my I'm on my honeymoon right now.
Speaker 6 (01:26:02):
Is that going overwhelm on my honeymoon?
Speaker 7 (01:26:04):
It's going, well, she's just here on the bed going
over the pre noo. And but yeah, you so you
kind of have. It's it's kind of easy for me
to do the set because it's just like truth. You know,
like I feel like I'm still divorced obviously, but you
know that's not going away. But I feel like it
sort of mimics life, and so it's easy to do,
Like this New Hour about I kind of I get
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compared to Rodney Dangerfield quite a bit, which I take
is a you know, I'm not as funny as him,
but I take it as a compliment. And I do
think though some people go, you're going to ruin your brand.
You're married. You married this woman and I feel like
she's an attractive woman and uh, and say you're gonna
ruin your brand. But my argument is always like eel,
Like if Rodney was on Carson, He's like, oh, I
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get no respect. You're like, I don't know. This is
your fifty seventh appearance on Garson, but this feels like respect.
You've got a comedy club with your name on it.
I feel like at some point it's okay to celebrate
that things are going a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
And when it's time to celebrate, Jamie, Lissa comes to
me and let me clarify that because you mentioned Denver
being a special place for you, Jamie and I recall
distinct is the last time you were here, Erica.
Speaker 9 (01:27:12):
Was with you.
Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
You had just proposed she had accepted.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
You told me that story as well, and in fact,
this was the club that you first invited her to
when you just started dating.
Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Correct, well, very very.
Speaker 7 (01:27:23):
Close to what happened. She actually came to the club
without telling me. We had never oh wow, met in
person since the first time we had ever spoken, like
two years before, and we've been texting for like two years.
And she came and sat in the front row and
I was on stage and it was a sold out
show and I saw her and was unable to speak
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for what I felt like was six hours, but I
guess it was like one minute. I saw her in
the front row, and it's so funny, man Like she
has since learned that I hate people sitting in the
front row, and so it was like, so yeah, but
that was the very first place we hung out was Denver.
Do you know what, I get a lot I would
like to ask you this question. I get a lot
of people go h they look at her. This happed
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me last night. I was doing like a Chriinas material,
like an open mic type of thing, getting prepared for
the tour, and this guy comes up and Eric's with me,
and he looks at her and he looks at me.
He's kind of drunk, and he goes, man, he goes,
you out kicked your coverage.
Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Yeah. Have you heard that one oh plenty of times
and including for myself.
Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Yeah, okay, okay. Do you take it as an insult
or a compliment?
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
It's both Jamie and I think it's definitely a compliment
to her. It's not so much a compliment to you.
But I think it is a compliment to you. And
let me explain why, because I think the fact that
you were able to quote unquote OutKick.
Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
Your coverage shows Hey, you had something going for you.
Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
I like that insight in between me and you. I
looked at his wife and it looks like he got
a safety.
Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
So Jamie list joining us. He's on tour starting that
the Improv in Hollywood. He's coming to comedy works here
in Greenwood Village in December, and a lot of places
in between. Now, I'm not going to mean this is
mean is it's going to sound. So I'm not going
Greg Guttfeld here against her acts. However, I've met Erica.
She's wonderful, she's a doctor. You're married to her. Now
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again another highlight. You're on your honeymoon. This is phenomenal.
You're living the dream, Jamie. But for you personally, I
I'm going to focus on that part of it. For
you personally, what kind of an upgrade is this relationship
for you from where you were with your ex wife.
Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
I feel like the upgrade that would compare to getting
a new iPhone to replace just yelling loudly.
Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
That's significance.
Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
It feels like, you know, I, me and my ex
get along. We actually get along super well. I you know,
we just did like a thing where I hung out
with the kids for a week. I met her in Seattle.
She took the kids. She has a very good sense
of humor. But I feel like we were just kind
of incompatible. And I don't blame her. It's just like
when you are home with kids, all of my good
news was bad news for her. Like if I came
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home and said I got a TV show, she would
hear I'm leaving for six months and you have to
be with the kids. I'm going to film. So I
do get it. But I feel like with this new
you know, this new upgrade, we are completely on the
same page as to where like she's you know, she's
doing tell them medicine. I'm going to sound proof booth
right now, and she's in the one next to me
seeing a patient right behind me. So all of our
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goals are sort of like entwined. And by the way,
she's seen patients. I'm doing radio interviews. I'm trying to
convince her just switch one of them. Let me go
in that room. I'll tell you how I do.
Speaker 11 (01:30:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I think you can handle it because for a time
there you were doing a podcast.
Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
Right, Yeah, I think I'd be okay. I like the
woman would be like, why do you need to see
my breasts? I have a sprained ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
It's priorities and these are doctoral in their medicinal in nature.
Jimmy Lissa joining us. Let's see Greg Guttfeldt if he
gets his last name right.
Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
I was just corrected on it.
Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
This is from What Did I Miss, where Jamie serves
as a panelist with the newly turned Kat Timp, who
of course was on maternity to leave spoiler.
Speaker 24 (01:31:03):
We're full of Kat and Jamie know the answers, the
audience knows, and I definitely do you.
Speaker 6 (01:31:09):
You know nothing.
Speaker 24 (01:31:10):
You've been living under a rock as fossilized as Mitch McConnell,
and tonight we're here to mess with you, especially these guys.
There are department of bs or dogs. One will be
spreading fake news and the other delivering real news. And
here's the catch. You won't know who's doing what, and
it changes every game. It's up to you to figure
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out if what they're telling you is real news or
fake news.
Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
Now, if you guess right, you add money to your
group prize fund.
Speaker 24 (01:31:39):
Guess wrong, you look stupid and we laugh at you.
Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Frankly. I hope that's the case.
Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Now, you mentioned Jamie, you told your mom you need
Greg Goutfeld, and you take all this abuse on his
regular nightly program intentionally, and you've told me before that
there's some k fabes, some pro wrestling stuff going on
behind the scenes. He's like, Oh, I don't want to
go too hard. You're like, no, you're fine, Please go
push the little bit harder. And yet you choose to
sign up for more with this What did I miss?
Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
Why? But What did I miss? Game Show? Was the
best concept I have ever heard for a gain. It's
like you kind of just heard it there, but people
sequestered for ninety days, no phone, no TV, no yelling
out windows, and then you go ask questions about the news,
and my god, man Trump made this the hardest game
show of all time because the things he does are
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so hard to believe. I was not sequestered in the house,
and I did not know some of the answers. I
was like, he's gonna be on the one hundred dollars bill?
Are you serious? Like there were some stuff where I
was like, how do I miss that? And so I
will do dude, I will do anything Greg wants to do.
I'll do the gussaled ice grades. If he asked me
whatever it takes keep selling tickets, I'm in. I'll do
whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Jamie, I've asked you this several times, but the answer
might change every time I catch up with you. And
that is is there a moment from the show, could
be recent, could be a while ago, that really stands
out for you, that just jumps out like, Wow, I
can't believe we just went their moment.
Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Oh man, that's a that's a that's a very good question.
I would say maybe my newest one was recently. I
was on the show and right before we went on
the air, we do like five stories and I write
jokes all day long and then I go on the
air and I barely do any of them, but I
have them as like a backup. And they had sent
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an email saying that two of the stories had changed,
and I saw the email on television, so like on
break on television, I looked at my phone and it
was basically like, you have two stories that you have
not written any jokes for and there are four million
people watching. And that was maybe my favorite show, and
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my favorite moment in that was Greg was talking about NGOs,
Ryan I don't know. I don't know what that is,
and normally I can research, and so i'd smart ngo.
I'd never even heard it before, and I remember I
said something like, I don't know what an ngo is.
I just know it is like the end of the song.
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So I thye. That was my favorite episode because it
was just the excitement and stress anxiety of not being
like just having to fly by the CD or pants.
That was like one of my favorite shows of all
time looking back, That's.
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Where some of the best stuff comes from. And for
this show that I love and I try to watch
it every night. You know, Greg as kind of the
pots stir. You have Kat Temph now back, You've got
Tyrus yourself. That's kind of the dream team, the Fab four,
if you will, the regulars. There's always that fifth chair though,
and my final question for you is who has been
your favorite person in that fifth chair? And was there ever,
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like maybe a celebrity guest who's not used to that
format that was just this wide eyed, not ready for
prime time player person that sat there, if you care
to name that person.
Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
It's so funny that happens is so often, and you know,
I really I think of I don't know. I think
me and Norton probably pushed the television envelope as far
as you can go. And I noticed that the producers.
I can't think of a specific you know, like Harris
Faulkner once went on for the first time with me,
and the producer told me, whenever I deliver a punchline,
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he goes to her camera to get her reaction. I
thought that was so funny, and I gotta go. I
love so many of our guests, so many of our
regular guests, but I gotta go. My number one fifth
chair no competition is Emily Campania. Yes, because she laughs
at every single one of my jokes. There's no bombing
that day. I know I got Emily. I know I
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got Emily, and I know the guys love her. And
there's a lot of guys that when Emily's on, you
know they're Washington was sound up, pants off, but big
fan of Emily Compania.
Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
You know what else, Jamie, I'm gonna give you credit
for this. I think you inspired her because I know
that she just got engaged and you set the path.
Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
You showed her the way I did.
Speaker 7 (01:35:46):
Man, I should I showed her the way I did
it first, I knew, dude, I'm gonna tell you a
story that I shouldn't even say because it's so embarrassing.
So I when I was single, I thought Emily. The
people were online saying. They kept saying stuff like I
think Emily likes you, I think she's flirting with you
and Ryan. I made a huge mistake. What I did
is I believed those people, and I actually went on
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Instagram and I messaged her and I said, Hey, maybe
we could go off for a drink sometime, and she
wrote back that would be great. We should all go
for a drink sometime. Me you, Greg tyed like it
was one of those like very polite, I don't want
to be alone with you in a room. I'm scared,
and then passed forward when I met I don't think
I've ever told you about the story when I passed forward.
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When I met Erica, and I did feel like she
was a little bit out of my league or possibly
in a different sport. I think she's playing NFL football
and I was playing pickleball with a Walmart kit. She
Emily was very instrumental in telling me, hey, you're good enough.
That girl loves you like she was very very helpful
to me meeting Erica, and that's when I found out
she had that long term boyfriend now fiance. That is
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very good news. Good to hear.
Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
Wow, way to put a fine point on it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Jamie Lissel starts at the Improv in Hollywood, California. He
continues his tour all the way through the middle of January,
and oh, by the way, in early December right here
at Comedy Works South in Greenwood Village. Jamie, I'll be
sure to catch up with you then and I'll look
forward to seeing you and Erica then, thank you so
much for taking the time today.
Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
All right, man, can't wait. We'll see Coalredo.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Always an interesting conversation. How about that story on Emily Campano.
You talk about this beautiful woman Italian. She was a
former Raiders cheerleader and has a law degree. Very sharp,
very smart, very attractive. I mean, I don't blame the guy. Right,
shoot your shot, dragon did it? And look he's been
married how many years? Fifteen years?
Speaker 6 (01:37:38):
There you go, right, your wife is a wonderful woman. Lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
We had a moment in the theater sharing skittles. Yes,
there are skittles in there. Hang over reference. But Yeah,
how did you know Dragon, Let's finish on this note.
How did you know? When did you know? His head
is in his hands right now? When it's so silly.
Speaker 17 (01:38:00):
We're just dating at the time, we went and got
tacos from Taco Bell and she's eating and all the
smoitts has falling out the back of the taco into
the wrapper, and she looks over at me and she goes,
would you think less of me if I licked the rapper?
I looked right back at her and said, I think
less of you if you didn't lick the rapper.
Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
You know what that is?
Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Marriage material? And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Because you want a woman who's comfortable enough in her
own skin that she's gonna be herself, Yeah, around you.
And that was her, authentically her, genuinely her. And what
does that do that unlocks Dragon's ability to be authentically him?
Speaker 9 (01:38:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Is there something that you do that you know might
be a little out there? But she just accepts that
about you because you're dragging you or her husband and
she loves you.
Speaker 17 (01:38:50):
I'm probably a bit, you know, a neat freak, controlling
that kind of thing. Everything, everything has its place at
home and yeah, if she just you know, comes in
and just unloads all of her stuff and I'm like, no,
I have to put it away, so you're little OCD.
Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
See that's a very important thing when you're merging lives,
and I'm in the process of doing this right now
with my fiancee Kelsey, is you have to have compatible
levels of messiness. And in our instance, I think this
at least was the case for you. You have a
dearly departed pat a dog. But when you're dog people,
I mean some of that goes out the window, the
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neat freak stuff. I mean, yeah, we got a puppy
right now, and accidents are going to happen. Luckily, we've
got like hardwood floors and a portion where we don't
have to worry about carpet clean up.
Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
But then, you know, what is that acceptable level of messiness,
if there is any.
Speaker 17 (01:39:47):
I've learned to accept that she has to have her
spaces in the house that I just can't go in
about messing with because then it'll be, you know, a
problem for her, because whatever I move, whatever I put away,
won't be where she left it, and then she won't
be able to find it. So I just like her sink,
and I don't go near her sink at all. I
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think if you can. Now, not everybody can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Not everybody can afford the lifestyles of the rich and
famously Dragon. But to have your own individual sinks or
even entire bathrooms, that's a plus, right, Yeah, got to
have your own area, right, your own domain.
Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Yes, of course. Do you have a layer, your Dragon?
Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
Of course?
Speaker 17 (01:40:27):
I do you have a layer the workout room in
the little game room does okay?
Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
All right?
Speaker 12 (01:40:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Is that exclusive to you? Or is missus Dragon welcome
to parties? Is welcome to okay? It doesn't usually correct you.
Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
I'm getting lots of tips here from Dragon. Very useful,
very helpful, and I appreciate you. Man five six six
nine zero. The raging debate on ranch versus blue cheese
continuing on I like this texture. Look, I'm a mature person.
I can have ranch or blue cheese fair enough. I
just can't stand ranch, you know. And there are very
few foods on this planet that I hate, but one
(01:41:01):
of them is forced upon me. And I've found out
it's about maybe ten percent of the population has this
cilantro thing where it tastes like soap.
Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I hate it because that's my wife. Yeah yeah, and
my dad has it. I think I inherited the gene
from him. And I've tried, folks, I've tried all these things, cilantro, lime,
rice and pacos and stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
I'll do it this time, do it? This time is fresh.
Maybe it's soap right in my mouth? Never changes.
Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Hey, And I don't want to hate it because it's
in so many things, and I hate being that guy.
You know, you go to the restaurant, authentic Mexican Restaurant'm
gonna get the tacos and the limes and all that.
Speaker 6 (01:41:34):
Oh would you please hold of the cilantro. I don't
want to have it the way you guys prepare it.
I would like it my own way.
Speaker 7 (01:41:40):
Please.
Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Oh, here's Maddy Connall. Let's ask Kurt really quickly. Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Are you one of those people like me that has
the cilantro gene where it tastes like soap?
Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
Or can you eat all the cilantro you want?
Speaker 25 (01:41:50):
You know, I've not been a cilantro fan for much
of my life, but I'm kind of turning the corner
on that.
Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
How does it even happen?
Speaker 9 (01:41:56):
Though?
Speaker 25 (01:41:56):
I don't know. I don't think I had the soap jeane.
I just didn't care for it. But now I find
myself like I'm owning. Then then they did for a
little Pico de gaya. Gotta have a little Slantro in
the Pico Degayo, I know, but I don't put it
in my guacamole.
Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Thank God.
Speaker 25 (01:42:09):
So I'm Cilantro.
Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
I'm like by Cilantro.
Speaker 25 (01:42:11):
I could yes Cilantro or I could know Cilantro, whichever
one you're Cilantro.
Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
Curious, Yes I am.
Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
I am.
Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
I haven't seen you in a while.
Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I've been gone.
Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Parts unknown, well parts known well known to you. Yeah, no,
nobody told us tells me anything. Dragon was there too,
can meet you all. De Marogato, mister robots, they don't like.
Speaker 25 (01:42:35):
But the edigoto is what you was, what you say
at agatto. Here are the words that I learned erragato,
of course, thank you?
Speaker 8 (01:42:41):
Can you?
Speaker 10 (01:42:41):
Qua is hello, good day?
Speaker 25 (01:42:43):
And then I learned how to say uh oh no, wait,
oh no, mussie no show careful sima massen shima masen
means excuse me. Because I kept bumping into people and
because there's so many people, and then I learned how
to say shima masen, and that means excuse me, let's
put a fine point.
Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
Yes, you're a giant there.
Speaker 25 (01:43:01):
Well yeah, come on. And my husband's bigger then well too,
so he takes the pressure off.
Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
Right, you know.
Speaker 25 (01:43:06):
And then I also learned how to say oishi, which
is delicious.
Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
I'm turning Japanese, I really think. So what's coming up
on the Mandy com.
Speaker 25 (01:43:12):
We got a good show today planned for you. Of course,
we're going to talk about the Doug co Home Rule
initiative going down in flames like in spectacular fashion. We've
also got a guy coming on to talk about the
social security situation. Is the trust Fund going broke or not?
And we've got a Hillsdale War historian coming on the
show to talk about how October seventh was destined to
end with Israel at.
Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
War with Iron.
Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
All of that and more still to come on the
Mandy Connells Show, Stay tuned for that. I've been Ryan
Schuling filling in for Ross Kaminski. The big Man's back
tomorrow here on Koa
Christian Camp has settled a lawsuit filed earlier this year
against the Department of Early Childhood.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The lawsuit was initially filed in response to the state's
requirement related to gender identity. Camp idra Haji reached the
settlement agreement with the Department of Early Childhood. It states
that the department will not cite, suspend, or revoke the
camp's license for not following new rules that would otherwise
require a camp to allow campers to use the facilities
(00:25):
that align with their gender identity. Initially, Camp idra Haji
stated that they were denied a religious exemption for these
new guidelines. However, a spokesperson for the Department of Early
Childhood states none of their gender identity regulations have ever
been applied to or been enforced against childcare providers that
(00:46):
are religious in nature.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
This developing story over night CBS Colorado Channel four locally
in Denver with the story there Ryan Schuling filling in
for Ross Kominski midweek here on a Wednesday. He should
be back tomorrow. We wish him the best and joining
me now Valerie Leal. She's supported the opposition and testified
at the Colorado General Assembly against house built twenty five,
(01:08):
thirteen twelve, which would eventually be passed through the Assembly
and signed into law by Governor Jared Poulis. You can
follow her on x at super of my home val.
Thank you so much for your.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Time, Thanks for having me ran your reaction to what
you just heard, Well, yeah, I've been pretty in dept
with this since it came out when the lawsuit was announced.
Watched the rule hearing back from back in December, connected
with one of our legislators to figure out what was
happening and where as they see it as a huge
(01:42):
victory for Christian camps and religious camps altogether. What I
find interesting is that it appears that the CDC is
trying to cover their tracks for their initial reaction to
Idra Hodge's request for an exemption.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So many questions in the wake of this too, because
this is one case and some people might view it
as a one off for Camp Iydra Hadgi, are there
far reaching implications, meaning would every single other faith based
camp out there that does not want to adhere to
this stipulation that wants a religious exemption have to file
(02:18):
on their own behalf? Or does this kind of set
the standard for everybody else in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, so my understanding, based off reading a final rule
document is there's nothing listed in there that specifically outlines
that religious institutions are exempt from these policy changes. So
my understanding is, if you want to be exempt from this,
you have to file your own exemption.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't, based off.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
The rule reading, believe that this is going to be
a carte blanche blanket protection for religious camps.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Camp Idra Hodgi.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'd rather have Jesus as what it is short for
is the camp being discussed in this matter. Joining me
is Valerie Laoal and she has testified, as I mentioned,
against House Built twenty five thirteen twelve, recognizing transgender rights,
but even so doing forcing in public spaces. This acknowledgment
and accommodation to be made, which would have included Camp
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Idra Hodgie had they not raised objection to this, meaning
housing those who identify as the opposite gender with the
gender they identify as. Now there's another case pending on
behalf of Alliance Defending Freedom regarding a field trip in Jeffco.
You made this point val in a post on X
that Harmi Dylan had eyes on Colorado and on that
(03:39):
case in particular, and this is addressed as a concern
of mine which I kind of alluded to in my
opening question for you, which is camp Idra Hodgi is
one thing. I was hoping that case would go to
the Supreme Court and there'd be a similar ruling in
favor of religious liberty that we saw with Jack Phillips
and Masterpiece Kate Shop with Laurie Smith and three L
three creative that would get at the trifecta apparently that
(04:01):
we need in Colorado. We keep having to go back
to this well on this very same issue. Take us
through your thoughts on where the Alliance Defending Freedom case
stands as Camp Idra Hadgi settles its lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Helps maybe set some precedence, But unfortunately the case that
you corresponding to is a Jacal Public School outdoor lab
camp that they do.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
An interesting aspect with that is that the Department of
Ed has filed an investigation on that particular case here
in JEFCO. So I believe that the Idrahaji win can
set some evidence for that case and hopefully in conjunction
with the investigation that the Department of Ed with the
(04:47):
DOJ has filed into that outdoor lab case. My hope
is maybe then we can finally have resolution of this
and parents can stop fearing sending their children to camps
or trusting them to individuals who want to force them
into spaces with individuals that are not of the same
biological sex.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Parental writes ABOc at Valerie Leanell joining us here on
the Ross Kaminski Show, Ryan Schuling filling in here on
Koa val We heard and this was a conversation that
Governor Polis had with Ross, I believe, on this very program,
Ross brought him back on for a conversation about thirteen twelve,
and it left a tremendous loophole or blind spot in
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my view in terms of how Governor Polis applied this
logic in signing thirteen twelve and what it left open
to interpretation. Kind of what we're talking about here it
uncharted waters there's not a real definition here as to
who's exempt and why they would be exempt, and is
it religious organizations and would it be across the board.
But Governor Polis basically stated, hey, in your own home,
(05:50):
you can say whatever you want and if you racist, homophobic,
da da da DA But in the workplace you can't
do that. There are rules against that. But that doesn't
cover everything and everybody else. Lika jack Phillips at Masterpiece
Cake Shop a case that had been adjudicated by the
Supreme Court of the United States in terms of public spaces,
and do accommodations have to be made? And do people
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who have religious liberty exemptions or objections are they to
be coerced into adhering to the gender identity of an individual?
Where does it go from here? Where does it stand
and how much does thirteen twelve being signed in the law.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Have to do with it?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I think that the way they went about with Idra
Hadgie is they took a law that was passed last
year SB twenty four oh seven to one step forth licensure,
and interestingly enough, they started the stakeholding process for this
policy change before the bill was even signed, so the
CDec was planning this being implemented. I think thirteen twelve
bolstered their ability to push that through. And I am
(06:52):
very grateful to Jennifer say back sac Xy because she's
taking that very exact England saying that because she's a
Colorado based business that thirteen twelve prohibits her from being
able to do business because the core of her business
states men are biological men and women are biological women.
And so I think that that will.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Be the decider here.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
And then there's a.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Couple of organizations that actually filed you against thirteen twelve.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I think people are fighting back.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I think businesses are tired of sitting down and taking it.
I think none of us believe poll Us anymore. He's
very good at making us stay silent, like he did
during COVID. And I'm hopeful that people are finally breaking
out and saying this impacts my business, this impacts my
one A rights, This impacts my ability to raise my
(07:42):
child the way that idem my child should be raised,
and the governor can't tell me to do otherwise.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Follow her on ex super of my home. Valorie Lail,
our guest. Just a final thought here from you, Veil,
as people continue to watch, and I'm glad you brought
up the Jennifer Say xxx one athletics case that is
working its way through the courts. We mentioned the Alliance
Defending Freedom case on behalf of those involved with the
field trip in which a trans identifying student was to
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be housed in the same hotel room as a young girl.
So as we watch both those cases proceed, as we
watch what just happened with camp Idrahaji being granted this
religious exemption.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Are these laws?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Are these regulations that are on the books in Colorado?
Do you believe they're on thin ice? Where does it
go from here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I am actually very hopeful that if we locally cannot
push back on the constitutionality of these laws, that we
do have a DOJ that is very interested in protecting
our rights, and they've already signaled multiple times that they
are keeping a close eye in Colorado. I think it's
just a matter of time before all these boils have
(08:52):
to be rolled back or you know, we'll have our
funding pulled at the least for some of our programs.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Parental rights advocate Valory Lee joining us here today to
open the program, Veil, thank you so much for your time,
but more importantly, thank you for all the hard work
that you're doing on the front lines of this issue.
I appreciate you personally and know a lot of our
listeners do as well.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Thank you so much, Ry, I appreciate your show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All right, Vale joining us here, your reaction and response
five to six six nine zero via text is how
you can join US.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The Ross Kaminski show continues after this, coming up at
the bottom of the hour. My conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert.
You want to stick and stay for that.
Speaker 10 (09:31):
Prime Minister Netanyahu to New York City for the for
whatever he comes for. Given the US is not the
signature to the ICC, so he can travel to the
US unlike a lot of other countries with a mamm Donney.
Welcome Benjamin heto the city.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
As mayor New York City with arrest Benjamin Netanya, who
this is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are.
Speaker 10 (09:51):
Also, even though the US is not a signature of
the ICC.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
No, it's time that we actually step up and make
clear what we are willing to do to showcase the
leadership that is sorely missing in the federal.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, apparently in New York City, you don't mess with
the Zoran. To paraphrase the Adam Sandler film, this is
Zoran Mamdani, now the Democrat nominee for New York City mayor.
There are some technicalities as it pertains to rank choice voting.
He did not exceed fifty percent, so there will be
some tabulations coming up. But Andrew Cuomo, I think, has
(10:23):
already conceded the nomination to Zorin Mamdani and you hear
him there. There are so many contradictions in this individual.
He is a socialist self avowed. He is far to
the left of Andrew Cuomo, who I'm not a big
fan of, and that won't surprise you, But sanity in
governing New York City a bit of a requirement our
(10:46):
biggest city, capital of the world in many ways. And
what this reveals to me is New York City either
living in a bubble or they just haven't gotten it
bad enough.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
The Blasiol wasn't bad enough.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Eric Adams at this point running as an independent former
Republican at one time kind of veered to the left.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
But then he's been sobered up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I won't say he's been red pilled, but my goodness,
in comparison to this guy, and this is just the
tip of the iceberg. First of all, how is he
going to arrest Benjamin Nett? And Yahoo wins? Zora and
Mamdani has called for defunding NYPD and abolishing police altogether.
You know, acab all cops are bastards. This is that guy.
(11:29):
This is that guy. He wants to eliminate prisons. This
dude is literally insane. But hey, he makes TikTok videos
and he campaigns and glad hands and kisses babies.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I guess that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It worked for AOC and she's now a credible threat
to Chuck Schumer for.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
That Senate seat.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
If you thought what Mam Donnie just said about arresting
Benjamin Nett and Yahoo was crazy, get a load of
this ghosty.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Prices are out of control.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The cost of eggs and milk skyrocket. The thumb stores
are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over
the course of a day depending on what they can
get away with. It doesn't need to be this way.
I'm Zarambani, and as mayor, I will create a network
of city owned grocery stores. It's like a public option
for produce. We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets
(12:18):
to city owned grocery stores whose mission is lower prices,
not price gadget. These stores will operate without a profit
motive or having to pay property taxes or rent. It
will pass on those savings to you.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, where has this been tried before? What could possibly
go wrong? Oh, that's right. The Soviet Union tried this.
It ended up in breadline squalor, despair, poverty, and the
overthrowing of the longest standing communist dictatorship on the planet.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Now it's China.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Then prior to the fall of the Soviet Union in
garbage shop, it was the Soviets. This has failed everywhere
it's been tried, with the exception of China. But there
are reasons for that. But think about Cuba, Venezuela, and
everybody always says that's of the Democratic Socialists of America,
like Zoraanmondani is it just hasn't been done right socialism,
(13:11):
And Bernie Sanders says this, it just hasn't been done
the right way. We just do it the right way.
It will work. It will not work, it will end
in total failure. And this is what he's advocating for,
publicly owned and run, government funded and subsidized grocery stores
with no profit motive. Fake that one through. This guy
(13:32):
is an anti capitalist. He will undermine everything that New
York stands for. From a freedom and liberty standpoint, this
guy is a box upon the city, but they just
voted for him to be the Democrat nominee for mayor.
A time out, we're back bottom of the hour News
and then Representative Lauren Bobert on the other side, Ryan
Schuling filling in for Roskaminski on KOA.
Speaker 12 (13:52):
We have we basically have two countries that have been
fighting so long and so hard that they don't know
what the fuck did doing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You understand that President Trump in brass texts terms, and
that's how we love him best. Outside the White House
as he was preparing to a board Marine one and
joining us now Representative Lauren Bobert. You can follow her
on x by that very handle at Lauren Bolbert. She
was just commenting on the ceasefire between Israel and Iran
broker by the President within the last day or so,
(14:23):
and she joined us. Representative Bolbert, thank you for your
time as always.
Speaker 13 (14:28):
Hi, it's so great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Ryan, absolutely, and I just want to get your thoughts
on the time between the strikes that we heard about
on Saturday, the fact that there were no leaks but
a lot of complaints from the Democrats in Congress where
you reside, unfortunately about their not being information shared. And
yet the mission success may have been in large part
due to the fact that President Trump kept this under
(14:52):
the vest and kept his circle small.
Speaker 13 (14:55):
I think President Trump did exactly what he should have done.
President Trump is labeling this as a twelve day war.
This may be the only thing that I disagree with
President Trump on because I believe this is a fifty
year plus war and President Trump brought somewhat of an
end to it within twelve days. He is certainly saying
(15:19):
we have done our part. And President Trump put out
a notice saying within two weeks, folks will know more
of what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
It was a.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
Stealth operation sent in D two fighter pilots and went
in and took out the threat of the enriched nuclear
in abran And I think that was a wonderful thing
that President Trump did by preventing them from having a
(15:47):
nuclear there. This is something President Trump has been outspoken
about for more than a decade. It's something that every
president has said since Bill Clinton. At least President Trump
has been the only one to do something about it.
So now that nuclear enrichment site is gone, it is
oblivery obliterated, and now we are at a ceasefire. And now,
(16:15):
of course new word today, President Trump is not very
happy with Israel, who unleashed a lot of fire firepower
on Iran right after the twelve hour waiting period was announced,
and we heard the very descriptive way that President Trump
(16:35):
came out about them, and that he is not happy
with that. But I still believe that President Trump has
done as much as America can do, and the United
States of America has stood with Israel, will stand with Israel,
but we are not going to have World War three
on their behalf.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Representative Lauren Bolberg joining us now.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Within the last couple of hours here, Lauren, we've seen
various reports, divergent reports, not surprising one from CNN, one
from Fox News saying that the level of destruction of
the nuclear sites might have been less than we anticipated,
only setting back Around's nuclear program for a few months.
Department of Defense, Trump administration White House has come out
(17:19):
and disputed that assessment or whatever the sources are on that,
And we're receiving word that Intel updates provided members of
Congress both the House and the Senate have been paused
on Iran.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
For the time being. What's the latest as you know it,
as you see it.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
The latest is I know it is what President Trump
has said. I believe that we have done exactly what
we said that we would do, and we have the
best military to execute the mission that was executed in Iran.
President Trump and Secretary Peak Seth have worked tightly together
(17:58):
in this to ensure that Iran can not have a
nuclear power, a nuclear warhead. And with the amount of
enrich nuclear that they had, they were very close to
doing so.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
And you know, if it's CNN.
Speaker 13 (18:18):
And the Democrats and others want to say that they're
only a few months away from rebuilding, while President Trump
is going to ensure that they cannot have nuclear powers.
Speaker 14 (18:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
So we are at a place now where I.
Speaker 13 (18:33):
Believe that just as President said, President Trump said that
this this threat is now gone, and Israel and Iran
need to come to a point of an agreement and
decide to have peace within the Middle East. This is
something that Republicans want.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
This is something that has been.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
Longed for for decades along party lines or throughout the
party lines, I should say, and we do not want
to be involved in forever foreign wars. So this is
the time for peace. President Trump expressed its frustrations with
ongoing missiles that were launched, and I don't think that
(19:15):
we will see much more of that after President Trump
has emphatically stated his position, because either way, Israel needs
us if they want to continue this, and it doesn't
sound like President Trump and certainly Republicans and Americans don't
want this to continue. So there has to come to
(19:37):
There has to come a point where we come to
the table and actually have this peace agreement, rather than
only knowing that this is the enemy and this is
what we do, and we bomb and we fight, and
we have strife and contention. It sounds a little bit
like the Republican Party in Colorado. If we're going to
get down to it, it's like all we know is defeat.
(19:57):
So that's what we're going to continue to do. But
take the victory, take the piece, and move forward.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Congresswoman Lauren Bobert representing Colorado's fourth congressional district, Your colleagues
on the other side of the isle, Lauren, we know
that they're desperate and they're flailing, and there was apparently
an impeachment vote, and we saw l Green bring in
and We've heard Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries talk about that
these attacks by Donald Trump on a round were unconstitutional,
and then Representative Jasmine Crockett Star that she is Democrat Texas,
(20:26):
said this is to understand enough about the constitution to
they send that I'm the one that's supposed to make
a decision.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
Or at least get a vote.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm the one who's supposed to make the effing decision
or at least get a vote.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Well, I don't want her.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Making those decisions. That's what we elected President Trump for.
And a couple of things Congresswoman Bobert, and that is
the last time Congress had a formal declaration of war
was eighty three years ago in the wake of World
War Two. Vietnam technically wasn't a war authorized by Congress.
Neither was the Korean War, Operation Desert Storm, the War
on Terror, the War on I rock none of those.
(21:03):
And plenty of presidents Democrats and Republicans have authorized attacks
as commander in chief. We may not agree with them,
let's say, by Barack Obama or Bill Clinton in Kosovolt,
but they were done and it was within the constitution.
What is this argument from the Democrats about Donald Trump
violating the Constitution.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Here, here's the deal.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
First of all, Jasmine krock of, I hope they'd let
her keep talking because the more she talks, the more
people understand that Republicans just want sound policy, theyn't want
America First decisions.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
And also, she was not here.
Speaker 13 (21:42):
Under Barack Obama when Democrats allowed him to drop thousands
of bombs all over the place. You know, there wasn't
anybody who ever criticized him for the work that he
did without congressional approval. And now they're saying that this
is a violation.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
So I guess.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
Maybe they knew it then, but we're going to give
it a path or whatever the excuse may be. Even
Chris Cuomo has said, Democrats, where were you then? I'm
one of you, And where were you then? You didn't
criticize Barack Obama? But now you're going to criticize President
Trump for his involvement. And what President Trump did is
is more effective than anything we have seen by any
(22:24):
other American president throughout this time period. President Trump went
in without a single American casualty, went in and destroyed
a nuclear facility.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
And I ran because he said they.
Speaker 13 (22:38):
Cannot have these nuclear war powers, and that's exactly what
he accomplished, and he brought our troops home safely. Now
there has been strife in the Middle East and we're
trying to find an end to that. Like I said,
this isn't a twelve day war. This is twelve days
to end decades long of war that's been taking place
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in the Middle East.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
President Trump is.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
A man of peace and you have to show strength
to get to that piece. We've been saying that it's
not a broken campaign promise, as even some of my
colleagues on the Republican side would would say that this
is broken campaign. He promised no new wars. This isn't
a new war. He's ending something that has been going
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on for decades, and he is bringing peace through strength,
just as he promised on the campaign, peace through strength.
He exercises the strength that we have through the most
powerful military force in the world, our US military, and
now he is looking for peace. So the Democrats you
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want to impeach him and say, well you got to
freaking go through me or whatever she's going to say.
You know, they are just beside themselves because they cannot.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Win on policy.
Speaker 13 (23:58):
They know mom and dads don't want to mutilate their children.
That we don't want men and women's sports, and we
want a strong economy and lower inflation and strong borders,
secure borders, and to deport illegals. And so this is
their new shiny object to point out, such a.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Good way to put that. Representative Lauren Bobert joining us.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
One final issue topic that I'd like you to address,
and you kind of let us into it here, Lauren.
That is, we've seen commentators, especially those that are very online,
that are ostensibly on our side of the political spectrum,
but are very much opposed to the action that President
Trump took in around talking about Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens,
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even like you said, some of your colleagues, Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green and Thomas Massey, who I know you're close
with personally, and I like him.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
I liked look at some of those not all of
those themes.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
But yes, well now I'm talking about Massey in particular.
You know he was against this. He's principled. I respect that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But on the big beautiful bill as well, it is
going to address a lot of what you're talking about,
the order security part of it also addressing our economy
the needs of that. There are a lot of loose
ends to tie together. I don't envy Speaker Johnson. I
know you don't as well trying to herd cats and
get everybody to pull in the same direction. But here's
what Representative masse He said about the Big Beautiful Bill
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once it comes back to the House after amendments are
made by the Senate.
Speaker 15 (25:20):
But Randon did say that if it came down to it,
he was the deciding vote, he would vote in favor
of it.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Would you do that for the Big Beautiful Bill? Would
you do the same thing?
Speaker 16 (25:27):
No, no, I won't, And in fact, I would love
to have that opportunity, because you know what happens. If
we take down the Big Beautiful Bill, we write a better,
for better, more beautiful bill. It doesn't have the warts
and canker sores that this bill has.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
One that doesn't bankrupt the country.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Negotiations. Trump knows this.
Speaker 16 (25:50):
Negotiations don't start and tell one side, says no.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Representative overt Dandy Don Meredith on Monday Night Football once said,
if ifs and butts were candies and nuts, we'd all
have a Mary Chriss you've got Massy on this side.
I get his point, But then on the other side,
you've got the representatives Republicans from California New York that
want the salt state and local tax deductions included in
the bill. I don't know how you thread this needle.
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By going in one direction or the other, you were
able to pass this out of the House. Is representative
Massy being unrealistic in terms of what is actually possible
right now in a narrowly divided House.
Speaker 13 (26:25):
So that's a tough straight yes or no answer, because
Thomas Mathey isn't wrong on a lot of his position
by any means, and many of us, including myself, even
held our nose to vote for the initial passing of
the big beautiful bill out of the House. There are
many great things, and Ryan, I believe that you have
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a very diverse audience that listens to your show, and
so I want to get both sides of this correct.
First of all, we are not going in and just
taking Medicaid and Medicare from everyone who actually needs it.
We want to go in and have strategical reforms where
you're taking able bodied adults out of the system. And
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we're working on the negotiations of the time, the timeframe
for that now with the Senate to see what that
actually looks like.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
There is a big.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
Money laundering scheme where a state puts in one dollar
and the federal government puts in a dollar thirty three
for all of the folks who are actually eligible for medicaid.
But then when you get illegal aliens and able bodied
adults included in that system. Well, now, when the state
puts in a dollar for those able bodied adults and
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illegal aliens, the federal government it's coming in, I'm putting
nine dollars.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
For those same people.
Speaker 13 (27:43):
So it's a huge money laundering scheme that we've got
to get right. That's something that we are working on
currently with the Senate to strengthen this.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We want a.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Secure border, we want to unleash American energy. We want
to defund the green news scam. We want no tax
on tips and no tax on over time. And there's
even some provisions there for a suppressors to remove those
from the National Firearms Act, and so much more. We
want to end snap eligibility for illegal aliens. And so
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there's a lot of great things in here, but I
get Thomas Matthews's position on basically what could be described
as an omnivous bill, a big bill that can includes
so many things. But this is not a budget bill.
This is a budget reconciliation. It's our only opportunity to
avoid this filibuster and actually get policy wins and financial
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and fiscal wins in this term.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
With our slim majorities.
Speaker 13 (28:40):
So there is some give and take. But as the
bill sits in committee in the Senate, I'm a no.
I am a no on this bill the way the
Senate is revising what the House is sent over, and
so we've got to ensure that we are getting this
language right. When it comes to Inflation Reduction Act subsidies
for green energy, which is very unreliable and really just
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messes up the market dramatically, and we could spend an
entire segment on that. I won't today, but we've got
to make sure that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
We have to make sure.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Illegals are not eligible for snap.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Benefits for Medicaid.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
We want to have no tax on Medicare for the
majority of our seniors, and no tax on overtime, no
texting gifts, all these things, and so we've got to
keep the pressure on the Senate to send us a
good bill back. But I mean, as of today, I'm
a no if the Senate sends us what they are
currently working on in committees without correcting this. So Thomas
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Matthew is not wrong. But also there is a ground
where we say, this is our opportunity to actually pass
something meaningful that will secure our border and unleash American
energy and do things for our economy and the working
class in America.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
So is the bill no? Is it big?
Speaker 13 (30:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Is it beautiful? It could be, And so where.
Speaker 13 (30:06):
We're currently putting pressure on the Senate to make sure
that we at least get what we sent over from
the House and maybe even a.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Little bit more.
Speaker 13 (30:15):
The salt productions again, we could spend another segment on
that alone. But what New York and California are demanding
for salt cap is absolutely insane. And Ryan, we are
a sault state. We have those state and local taxes
that are subsidized by the federal government. And still I
don't think it's right for folks in Kentucky and Florida
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and other states that don't have.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
State taxes to pay in to.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
Subsidize for bad Democrat polity policies that are taxing their
people out of affordable living scenarios.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Representative Lauren Bobert joining us, we appreciate her time, and
she describes right there the delicate balance that I spoke
of out earlier in the interview between Speaker Johnson having
to accommodate maybe the likes of Representative Thomas Massey, the
fierce fiscal conservative libertarians like him that probably are not
going to vote for a spending bill of any kind,
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and like Representative Bolbert, I don't begrudge Thomas Massey that
I think in principle, in theory he's right. In an
ideal world, he's correct. But in order to get things done,
lovers of government that sort of thing. This is the
quandary that Republicans that are true conservatives when it.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Comes to fiscal spending, budget, etc.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That to get elected, they're telling you that they're going
to advocate for less government, which is great.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I'm totally in favor of that, But in order to.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Undo a lot of what has been done, you need
to take action with the power while you have it,
and the Republicans have a tenuous grip on that with
a bare majority in the House, which includes Representative Thomas Massey,
which includes Representative Lauren Bobert, which includes as a pivotal
vote in an election that he won by the skin
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of his teeth, Representative Gabe Evans in the eighth Congressional
District of Colorado. So what Speaker Johnson has to do
here is threat a needle and the bill is not
going to be perfect if so many disparate views, interests, etc.
The pork barrel spending, we know it's a problem. This
bill is way too big and there's way too much
spending in it. I agree with Thomas Massey about that.
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I agree with Senator Ran Paul about that. But the
problem is you're not going to get anything done. You're
not going to move the needle. The Democrats win with
inaction by the Republicans because they're able to run out
the clock and use this ineffective governance to run on
in twenty twenty six in the mid terms, where the
Democrats figure to gain seats in the House and perhaps
control of the House, especially if it's to do nothing Congress.
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While the Republicans campaigned on all of these things they
said they were going to do, they control the executive branch,
with Trump winning the presidency and they control the Senate
by a fifty three to forty seven margin, that bare majority.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
In the House that I spoke of.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But if you go too far in the fiscal conservative direction,
cutting spending, you know, kind of slicing off, pairing off
here and there, well, now you're going to lose the
kind of middle of the road Republicans who barely win
their races, whether it's California, New York, and there are
plenty of those which constitute the margin for the majority
that you have, and now they're going to fall off
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if you eliminate these assault exemptions, these salt deductions that
Representative Bobert spoke of right there. So it's a delicate game.
It's a difficult balancing act. It's not easy. Like I said,
I don't envy Speaker Johnson, but I want to get
your thoughts as well. At five seven seven three or
excusity five six six nine zero, going to unprogram myself
from the other place over there, fifty six six ninety
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and we got a lot of comments coming in. I
need some ranch to go with this word salad. Okay,
fair enough, putting a camp on the no tax on
overtime defeats the entire idea. Yeah, well right, the more
overtime that you claim, then you want that to be
tax exempt under this policy. You're exactly right. There's a
lot of debate too. No tax on tips Is that
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a fair exemption? Well, I would say, for those that
are in the service industries that rely on tips for
a good portion of their income, why should they not
be able to exempt those sums from taxes the same
way that wealthy individuals who have offshore accounts and are
able to kind of put their money away and put
it in tax free shelters, that sort of thing. I
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think that should apply. What's good for the goose is
good for the gander. What's good for kind of the
investor class should be good for the working class as well.
And that's why me personally, I do support the no
tax on tips and I do know that that is
a big reason why Donald Trump flipped Nevada finally, he
had lost it twice to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
He won Novada against Kamala Harris. I think in large
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part due to that particular policy.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
A time out.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
When we come back, Laura Thomas will join us former
dougco commissioner.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
The home rule.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Initiative special ballot last night voted down in Flames. We'll
talk to her about that. She was against it from
the start. On Ross Kaninski, Ryan Shuling filling in on Koa,
it's an island in the oasis and he should be
back to mar Ryan Shuling filling in and inviting your text.
Got a lot of those after my conversation with Representative
Lauren Bobert. We'll get to some of those in our
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next segment. Fifty six six ninety the number you can
call joining us now. She is the former Doug CO
commissioner who was opposed to establishing home rule in Douglas County.
That vote going down last night and going down in
Flames by a number resembling I don't know something that
would be almost unanimous in a county that leans red.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Seventy one twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Laura Thomas, our guest, Laura, thank you so much for
your time, first of all, and secondly, is that margin
surprising to you?
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Seventy one to twenty nine.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for the opportunity to be on the radio.
So I didn't want to tempt state yesterday and predict
that we were going to win. But I knew talking
to people and watching social media and interacting with the
public that they were disgusted by what these commissioners were
trying to do, that they were trying to slip something
past them and steam roll the public by doing this
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so quickly behind closed doors. So I am so pleased
that almost thirty percent of the voters showed up yesterday
for a summer off term election, and I think they
sent a huge repudiation not only to the commissioners but
to the Douglas County Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Other items on the ballot it says home Rule, Charter
Commission at large for District one, for District two, District three.
Pardon my ignorance on this, but the fact that home
rule gets voted down entirely. Are those other selections now
moved or is there still going to be a commission formed?
Speaker 9 (36:50):
That's a great question. It's a moot. It's moot now
because the voter said, Nope, we don't want to do this, ye,
So that means the Charter Commission will not be gauging.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And further that point, Laura Thomas joining us, I'm just
looking at the results and they kind of speak for themselves.
The numbers, not just the one I mentioned, but for
the at large spot on the Home Rule Charter Commission.
Here we have the chair of the Board of Commissioners
Douglas County, George Teele, who I also interviewed on this
subject along with you on either side of this. He
was lagging well behind a vote for three, it says,
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and his vote total was a distant fifth on this list.
So even if they had formed the commission, he was
not going to qualify in those top three.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
What does that number tell you?
Speaker 9 (37:36):
That number should tell the commissioners that the public doesn't
want any part of this. They just want the commissioners
to govern for the people that elected them, that represented them,
and that public does not want any part of this
nonsense of home rule, especially the way they snuck around
behind closed doors and tried to shove this down the
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voter's trips.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Laura, it's not that you were opposed to the concept
of their being more independence when it comes to Douglas
County and making its own decisions, but you just didn't
grant the premise that this home rule vote was going
to amount too much in that regard. So with that knowledge,
with that basis, with that platform, and how the voters
turned out in such large numbers against it, Where does it.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Go from here?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
You've talked about this before, but what would be a
more effective means for voters in Douglas County to go
about getting more self determination in their county.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
Well, I don't know that there's any way that we
can just in fact, there's no way that we can
just say we're not going to follow these state laws. Right,
we have to follow state laws. And if we don't
like the state laws they're coming down, then the Republicans
need to work on getting candidates that can win, and
when we can win elections, we can govern.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Laura Thomas, she is a former member of the Douglas
County Board of Commissioners, and she can't came out rather
forcefully against this issue of home rule, and it went
down to defeat, as I mentioned, by a vote of
seventy one twenty nine. I was looking at this. Maybe
it was like you said, you didn't want to jinx
the outcome, Laura. I get that, but that it was
probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty
five to forty five either way, and was will an
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excess of that. So this kind of method of getting
the information out to the public, As you mentioned, this
is an off year, off season election, it's the middle
of summer. Getting people to turn out. That's a difficult
kind of row to hoe. And yet, like you said,
you were effectively able to get this message delivered to
the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
What do you attribute that to.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, maybe an interview like this one and other
radio hits that you've done, But how was that message
able to get out and how were the voters able
to respond to it in time?
Speaker 9 (39:50):
For Ryan, I've been involved in Douglas County politics for
twenty years and what I have learned is that it's
one on one communication, meeting with people, communic hitting with
them somehow. I was very active on next door, on Facebook.
I did my newsletter three or four times a week,
reaching out to people, and I was part of a large,
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non partisan group of people who came together and said,
hell no, we are not going to let the Commissioner's
ruin our county with this nonsense. And there was a
lot of door knocking, there was testing, there was mailing,
and we have the facts on our side. That's how
we were able to do this.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Laura.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You mentioned in this Facebook post about how there was
basically an end around, and you touched on that as
we began our conversation here, and that it wasn't so
much about home rule the issue like surface level. And
when I look at it and I talked to you
about this before knee jerk reaction, I would be well,
if so and so was against this, well, therefore I
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default to being in favor of it. But you looked
under the hood, you got into the devil of the
details here and what you're suggesting here. I mean, this
is pretty strong language review that it was a phony
sales pitch, that these individuals like George Teele were looking
out for their own self interests to what end was
What was in your mind the motivation behind this other
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than just that surface level home rule. Hey, we're looking
for self determination for Douglas County and to not follow
state laws that we don't like.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
So that whole thing not following state laws was all subterfuge.
What we need to remember this is the fact that
the commissioners and their inside cronies were sneaking around for
months before the commissioners bothered to tell the public that
this was going to be an election. Yesterday on June
twenty fourth, there were supporters that filed paperwork with the
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Secretary of State at the exact same time the commissioners
were putting this on the ballot, And so it was
that those insiders that I believe were going to benefit
from home rule in the long run. I can't prove
what they were up to, but if the commissioners really
wanted to do this for the public, they would have
had several meetings with the public and engaged with us
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before they put this on the ballot. But they didn't
do it. So any reasonable person would say, hmm, there's
something else going on here, and that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Or Thomas joining us.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
She's a former Douglas County commissioner, and she came out
publicly against this home rule initiative. Laura, you didn't have
to do this. You chose this, and you chose this
battle knowing that it would cost a tremendous amount for
you personally in terms of political capital. I'm sure you've
taken more than your fair share of slings and arrows
from people that would ostensibly be right of center on
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the political spectrum, and I guess my question for you
is is it worth it? The outcome of this is
their vindication in that and for you personally, I know
you're not doing it necessarily for those means, But what
does this mean for your future in the Republican Party?
Speaker 6 (42:57):
If there is.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
One thank you to hit the nail on the head,
the future of the Republican Party is what we're talking about. Look,
I was a major with the State Patrol and Durango
when I bought my house in Highland Ranch because I
knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life here.
I love this county. It is beautiful, that people are amazing.
There's no other place I want to live, and home
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rule would have changed that in a bad way. And
so my husband and myself and my friends helped me
over the last ninety days to educate the public about
why they needed to say no to home rules, and
they did that. So it's a new day, and let's
hope that the commissioners heard the message, they answered the
phone call, and they don't do this again.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
It was a dramatic and emphatic victory for Laura Thomas
in her side opposing home rule in Douglas County again,
it goes down by a margin of seventy one twenty nine,
an eye opener, to say the least, and Laura Thomas
a driving force behind defeating it. Laura, congratulations on this
political victory. We thank you for your time. I look
forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Hey, thank you again. This was a win for the citizens,
and there were there was an army with me. I
didn't do this by myself or Thomas.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We appreciate her and she's always been good to me
and joining me and providing us with her time today.
Filling in for Roskominsky, I'm Ryan Schuling, got a text
along those lines fifty six six ninety.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
I just tuned in. Where's Ross? He called me.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yesterday saying he couldn't move an appointment for today, So
I'm filling in just a one time only type deal
and he should be back tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Dragon said, so you didn't. I'm just putting that on you.
Speaker 17 (44:34):
Ross is washing his legs, did it once or twice a.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Year that he actually doesn't. He's so he's a little busy, so.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
It's less frequent than a car wash for him. But
need to do some maintenance for ros Komenski there, but
you can still text the show fifty six six ninety
in particular what you just heard. If you live in
Douglas County and you would be affected by the outcome
of this election, what do you say to the seventy
one to twenty nine margin opposing home rule in this instance?
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I know there are a lot of prominent members. George
Brockler I talked to George Teel was another one that
were in favor of home rule. That it might while
it might not be this panacea of what we hoped
it would be in self governance, that it will least
be a step in the right direction. There are only
are a couple of other counties that have home rule
in the state of Colorado. I want to hear from
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you fifty six six ninety more of your text as well,
reaction to my conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert. Straight ahead
and coming up at the bottom of the hour, looking
forward to Stephen L. Miller Versus media podcast host makes
his home right here in Colorado. A lot to cover
and tackle with him in the news that was over
these last forty eight hours. Back with more after this
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on Koa Brian Schuling filling in for Ross Kaminski fifty six,
six ninety. The argument against home rule is basically, quote,
it was a power grab. Who are we taking the
power from a bunch of corrupt Democratic politicians?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Says this Texter.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I will take a power grab by conservatives over a
power grab by Democrats any day, and saying that Laura
Thomas is another example of a so called Republican that
is siding with the Dems, and we'll ensure that Republicans
are always impotent in Colorado.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Maybe that is her goal.
Speaker 8 (46:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well, what I originally said was I got a post
on X from a follower of mine that said, right
next to this neighbor's Black Lives Matter sign, so it
might as well be like in this house, you know,
no human is illegal, we believe in science, all this stuff,
And right next to that sign was no on home rule.
So that's where I automatically came to, Well, well, wait
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a minute, I don't know a whole lot about this
home rule, but I got to do some research of
my own. But if I lived in doug Coe, my
default position, just based on that observation would have been
yes on home rule. But it went down in flames
seventy one to twenty nine. So that's just the brass
tax of the matter. We'll take this time out, come
back with more Bottom.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Of the Hour News straight Ahead.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Halfway through the Roskomenski Show, Ryan Schuling filling in on Koa.
Speaker 18 (46:54):
They're not going to be fighting each other that they've
had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids
at the school yard. You know, they fight like hell,
you can't stop him. Let him fight for about two
three minutes, then you.
Speaker 8 (47:04):
To stop him.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
And then daddy has sometimes strong languages strong everybody you
have to use a certain word.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I think now that is drawing a lot of response
and reaction to the NATO Secretary Mark Ruthe, the Dutch
guy who currently runs NATO, calling President Trump daddy, but
in the context of what Israel and Iran are doing
in the wake of the ceasefire agreement, the kids are fighting.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Trump's use that analogy.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Daddy's home, he's not happy, he's angry, He's going to
drop an F bomb. Did he have congressional authorization for
the F bomb? Don't know, don't know, Probably didn't. And
then of course the media seizing upon this opportunity asks
Donald Trump about the NATO Secretary General calling him daddy.
Speaker 19 (47:49):
Mark writter, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He
called you daddy earlier? Do you regard your NATO allies?
Kind of two drend Now he likes me.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.
Speaker 12 (48:05):
Okay, now he did it, very affectionate.
Speaker 7 (48:08):
Daddy. Here my daddy.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Well, our next guest, he likes it when you call
him big poppy, I think.
Speaker 6 (48:15):
And he's Steven L. Miller.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He's the host of the Versus Media podcast, keeping a
very sharp lens on the media coverage of all this,
and he joins us on the Ross Kevinski Show.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Stephen, welcome your response to Donald Trump being called daddy.
Speaker 8 (48:33):
I'm just shocked that Democrats haven't impeached him yet over
dropping an ulict d ask bomb without congressional approval.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Well, it's interesting this response over the last twenty four hours.
I was commenting on this off air before I was
filling in today for Ross, just about how the media
is looking to spike the football about Well, you might
not have totally damaged or obliterated, to use President Trump's word,
the nuclear facility these in Iran, and then Representative Jason
(49:03):
Crowe was asked about that and he seemed to ever
so slightly maybe maybe back away from the intel assessments,
which he assures Kate Baldwin that he saw.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Several members of Congress is that how they were reporting it,
including full committees?
Speaker 13 (49:17):
Have seen or have access to this report?
Speaker 15 (49:21):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Have you had a chance to?
Speaker 15 (49:24):
I have, And I'm not going to speak to this
specific intelligence So all I'm going to say is that
Donald Trump has a long history of distorting and you know,
putting his own take on US intelligence assessments regardless of
what it actually says.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
And you know, we are.
Speaker 15 (49:39):
Going to see in the days and weeks to come
that the truth and the reality of these reports in
these assessments. But Donald Trump's you know, continued distortions about
what happened and what didn't happen. You know, That's that's
what he does. He continues to just do whatever he
wants to do, which is unfortunate because I went to
war three times for this country. I went to Iraq
and Afghanistan, deployed as an army ranger, and frankly, we
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spent twenty years and trillions of dollars at war as
a nation because the politics drove that decision instead of
the intelligence. It's a very dangerous position to be in.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Representative Jason Krowe from right here in the sixth Congressional
District of Colorado accusing Trump of distorting intel assessments. But
Steve and I seem to recall some intel assessments that
were based on a Steele Dossi I used to obtain
FISA warrants that didn't turn out very well.
Speaker 8 (50:30):
Yeah, the important thing to pay attention to with this
stuff is who's doing the reporting. And this morning you
even have Morning Joe, of all people out there warning
about these stories and the elaks that are coming, and
the primary reporter that pushed this is Natasha Burg trying
to CNN. She was the reporter at Political at the
time that pushed the fifty intel letter that Hunter Biden's
(50:53):
laptop was not real, it was a Russian operation. And
then of course she kind of made her name with
some of the Steele Dossi elites. So when you see
that kind of track record, you kind of get an
idea of who her sources are, and likely you know,
the Biden adjacent intelligence officials. And so when these are
some people who still haven't had security clearanceive leak and
so you have to be skeptical when you see that
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kind of track record. And I see these things and
I'm and I guess I'm probably more in tune than
just the average normany listener viewer. But that's when I see,
when I see this person's name attached, I kind of
write it off, and I guess I look at it,
and I also say, so, what like if we only
set their horn regular capabilities back by a few months, Okay, well,
(51:36):
we'll see you again in a few months. And one
of the things that the story doesn't assess is the
fact that we might not have hit all of their reactors,
but we did knock out most of their developmental capabilities.
And that's something that isn't being assessed in this league,
and that's something that would set these these this regime
back by years, maybe even decades.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Follow him on x at red Ste's He is a
must follow on that platform, in my opinion, and you
could subscribe to his substack, listen to his podcast Versus
Media as well, where he tackles a lot of these
issues in much greater detail. This one you had pointed
out on your ex feed, Steven, and I found it
amusing as well. Aaron Burnett just casually remarking to Dana
(52:19):
Bash on CNN about protesters in Tehran being friendly to
CNN despite what they were chanting.
Speaker 14 (52:25):
But the question is whether or not the commp can
remain when the regime is that is still there, who
wants death to America, debt to Israel stays in place.
And that is part of the discussion, right.
Speaker 20 (52:39):
Yes, absolutely part of the discussion. And you know, I
remember Dan at one point being in Tehran years ago
and they're chanting death to America all around me, even
as I say, oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN,
and they were happy to speak to me. So those
two is sort of jarring realities of the chant and
yet the friendlyiness have existed together together.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Steve, I mean this is the equivalent of fiery but
mostly peaceful death to America.
Speaker 8 (53:07):
Chance, right, Yeah, I don't fight it shocking at all.
The people who are chanting death to America are very
friendly with people at CNN. That's one of the least
shocking developments that's recent history. But yeah, this is kind
of CNN's what's funny is there really is a protest
contingent inside the borders of Iran that don't want this regime.
And I think that that's going to be up to them,
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It's not going to be up to us if that changes.
And here's CNN not promoting that contingent there, instead promoting
the fire, like you said, fiery but mostly peaceful, death
to America people. And it's reminiscent of what John Carey
said when they were trying to facilitate this nuclear deal
that would have triangulated Israel into a two state solution.
Is they were trying to get support for the Iran
(53:50):
deal up. And so John Carey once said, you know,
the death to America chan is only intended for a
domestic political audience only, and it's not intended for the
the world. And so it's there's no real parsing of this.
And this is what I always kind of find funny
is that, you know, the people who find nuance in
a circle game and the people who see white supremacy
everywhere tell us that we have to attach certain political
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nuances to sayings like death to America and globalize the Intafata.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Steven el Miller often does this. He leads me right
into another clip. You mentioned the name John Kerry, the
former Secretary of State, former candidate for president nominee by
the Democratic Party, former senator from the state of Massachusetts,
John Kerry on with Chris john Amanpour CNN, and he
talks about here the enormous risk of regime change in
(54:40):
Iran and whether that concerns him.
Speaker 11 (54:42):
Oh, I think that's an enormous risk. I think it's
beyond a risk. It's the greater likelihood because they're the
people with the guns and with the military power, and
if you look at Evan prison and the way people
have been treated and so forth, we know that these
guys haven't been natural good act in so many ways,
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you know. I think that what's important here. I mean,
none of us who've been involved in this over the
years looked happily at the choices that Iran has made,
feeding the power of Hesmola, the hutis supporting Hamas and
engaging in internal activities that we inherently really find repugnant.
(55:26):
But we have to find a way to try to
solve a problem. That's what we did with President Obama.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
So in spite of all these things that he mentions
and acknowledges Steven that Iran was doing, Obama had it
handled with the Iran Nuclear deal.
Speaker 6 (55:39):
What's to look at here?
Speaker 8 (55:41):
Yeah, yeah, he was handling it. Like I said, I'm
kind of always of the belief that Obama was attempting
to facilitate a nuclear weapon with Iran and that was
to be used pressure Israel into a two state solution
with Palestine and the Goadza strip, and all you have
to do is kind of look at Obama's one comments
and his personal history on this topic to see that
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that's not.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
So far fetched.
Speaker 8 (56:06):
It is interesting to me that the CNN, the network
who you know, when something like this goes down, they're
so reflexively anti Trump to whatever he does, that we're
going to bring on the guy who was mostly responsible
for the fact that Iran picked up to this moment
that was going to have to be dealt with eventually,
and that now they're even bringing on Joy Reid. They
saw Joey Reid's and sanity at MSNBC and decided that
(56:28):
they needed to get in on some of that, and
that's kind of what that network does, regardless of facts,
regardless of nuance. This is a network that is so
just anti reflexively anything that this president does, which some
is good, some is bad, but they have to jump
into the aid to twenty pool in the minority side
of public stance on any of these issues. These Iran
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strikes were wildly popular. This is a country that's you know,
kind of been in the thumbinar eye for the last
forty five years, and no one's you know, talking about
a ground invasion, no one's talking about we're three here.
This is something that had to be done because of
the incompetence of the previous past two democratic administrations.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Steven el Miller our Guests Versus Media podcast. He is
the host and I appreciate his time today. You mentioned
the networks having difficulty trying to navigate coverage of this.
In many ways they're rooting against its success, saying, oh,
it's just a few months that they set this back.
This leak. The source on the Intel reports are telling
us that, so don't give Donald Trump and our military
(57:29):
too much credit. This really drew the ire of President Trump, who,
as you know, Stephen was in rare form yesterday morning,
dropping the F bomb beforementioned and then lighting into ms
DNC as he calls it, and CNN right here, and
you know, the fake news.
Speaker 12 (57:44):
Like CNN in particular, they're trying to you know, they're
trying to say, well, I agree that it was destroyed,
but maybe not that destroyed. You know what they're doing.
They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives in
the line. CNN has scum and so is MSDNC. They're
all Frankly, the networks aren't much better the golf fakers.
But they should not have done that. I vote, pilots
(58:06):
hit their targets, and targets were obliterated, and the pilots
would be given credit.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
Okay, you get that from the president, and a lot
of people make fun of his whole fake news characterization
of the media, but they keep playing into it, Steven,
with every step they take.
Speaker 8 (58:23):
Yeah, a lot of this is, you know, a lot
of this is the game that Trump plays for his
bass to kind of rev them up. But Trump is
also kind of the guy that when he needs to
get a narrative out, he's on the phone with every
single one of these networks, whether at.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
ABC, CNN, CBS.
Speaker 8 (58:36):
He did this one his his tip shall we call it,
with Elon Musk, as well as the Iran strikes. He
was on the phone to Dana Bash at CNN the
very next morning. And we know that if you know
Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, listen her story
that ah source close to Trump. We know that that's
Trump on speed dial. And so a lot of this
is kind of the game that they played back and forth.
(58:58):
But you are right in the sense they do take
the ban on a lot of this stuff because the
view is lashing out of them as a badge of honor.
Speaker 6 (59:06):
So there is this.
Speaker 8 (59:07):
Strollish kind of relationship between the two. So when Trump does,
you know, he takes the truth and if he calls
out a reporter by name, the reporter uses that and
then they take it in the frame it for their office.
And you know, I've always been kind of one, right,
I kind of think the president should be above a
lot of that. But I realized that a lot of
his voters, they love this, They eat this stuff up,
and it is just kind of who he is at
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this point that we've been dealing with it for ten years.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And not only that we see the aftermath of how
the media covered Joe Biden and these sudden epiphanies that
Chuck Todd and Jake Tapper or have Yeah, exactly, And
I just want to touch on a couple of these.
In a remarkable exchange where the meme of Bruce willis
from die Hard looking down saying welcome to the party,
pal applies, Here's Jake Tapper replying to Chuck Todd, who
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said the original sin for him was Joe Biden running
in the first place in twenty twenty with all these
only problems going on that none of.
Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
Us knew about.
Speaker 21 (01:00:02):
Somebody close to the family told us, and it's that
this is in the book that everybody knows. You know,
some of the family aphorisms like you know, my word
is a Biden or you know, et cetera, et cetera.
A lesser known Biden family saying is don't call a
fat person fat, And by that they mean it's not
about being, it's not about politeness. It's about hiding truths,
(01:00:24):
not acknowledging truths. And this person close to the family
suggested that there are lots of truths that the family
did not want to face up to One bo is dying.
Two Hunter is addicted to drugs. Three Joe Biden cares
about his family more than he cares about anything else.
Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
And those three are not true.
Speaker 21 (01:00:49):
This family, this person close to the family said and
and and that's when you talked about his running in
twenty twenty. I think that that comes to bear because
obvious he was putting his ambition and if you want
to be charitable, his hopes to save the country from
trump Ism or whatever. Obviously he was putting that above
what was going on with his family and his two
(01:01:12):
children and their struggles.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I'll take things we knew back in twenty twenty for
one thousand, Alex and Steven Jake Tapper trying to do
some revisionist history here, maybe some cleanup on Aisle nine,
saving face.
Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
Is he getting any of that done?
Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
You know?
Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
And anyone who's listening to me know this is kind
of my main topic of the moment. Every time he talks,
he does more damage to the fact that they did
ignore Joe Biden's condition for four years, and they did
try to just kind of write this off, and their
hope was to just kind of drag his bones across
the finish line so they could swear Kamala Harrison on Juneteenth.
And one of the things shure that's not mentioned, it's
(01:01:52):
only mentioned about a paragraph in Jake Tapper's book, is
this is a president who refused to acknowledge a granddaughter
for the duration of his presidency, refuse to acknowledge their
seventh granddaughter because you know, Hunter Biden found it to
be inconvenient. And it's the president where if he was
a man of character, if he was a decent mat
if as a family man, he would have grabbed that
little tipsweak degenerate by his ear and told him to
(01:02:14):
get out there and support his children. And instead we
didn't have that. We had Joe Biden write in her book,
you know, dedicating it to her six grandkids. And this
is a story that the media absolutely refused to touch
until Marine Dad wrote one op ed about it, and
then they released a press release to People magazine.
Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
This is a.
Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
Perfect example of again Jake Paper likes to use the
term we just missed the story of buying the client. Sorry,
we didn't see it until the debate, when we all
saw it for four years, including Larch Trump, which is
rightfully been thrown kind of back in his face. But
this is this is a media who coddled him and said, well,
we can't ask sensitive questions. They did a week long
(01:02:51):
news cycle of Donald Trump walking slowly down a ramp,
including bringing on several neurologists, so we see how these
rules bend and shift depending on who's inn office.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
And then finally the coupda gra Here Chuck Todd just
wondering aloud if the last forty years of Joe Biden
was all alive.
Speaker 22 (01:03:09):
Look, I mean, you know you and I covered you
know for most of our professional lives. The story of
Joe Biden was this guy cared about his family so
much he commuted home every night from Washington.
Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Now here's by the way, here's the by the way.
Speaker 22 (01:03:20):
You know what else you could say is this man
was so ambitious right after his uh family went through
that tragedy, he commuted every day.
Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
To work, right right, Like it's the same story. So
he had his narrative, had his sister help, right, I
don't I sit here.
Speaker 22 (01:03:35):
I look at this and the and and and I
think where we sold a forty year bill of good
Stephen was Chuck Todd hoodwinked.
Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
Yeah, the reason they're doing this is to kind of,
you know, localize a blast radius and try to minimize
the blast radius and the fallout of what we learned
about Biden post debate and then why he's forced to
drop out, and then in the coming months we're going
to look learn exactly how bad this was, which all
leads to who was actually running the country. And what
you have here are two guys who are paid to
(01:04:06):
inform people, that is their job as supposed you know,
newsmen and network journalists, and they're the least informed guys
in the room. They have they have the memory of
a goldfish. Every time they wonder aloud a point to
one another. And again, the reason for this, and the
reason for Jake Tapper's book, is to make sure that
we don't blame the media for this or that they
were not a part of this, when we have several
(01:04:28):
instances that prove they were part of this. And this
is Chuck Todd's way of doing that. It's a way
of protecting journalists, protecting the mainstream media, and only putting
this on a handful of people inside Biden world. And
the reason they're able to do this because that that
orange is dried up. Biden's has cancer. He's probably not
gonna be with us for very much longer. Jill Biden's
not running for senate. Hunter Biden's you know again, the
(01:04:50):
drug idle, degenerate. He you know, the media can't get
anything out of him like they could Chelsea Clinton. And
that's why they find that it's really easy to do
this as opposed to say if this was the Obama family.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You can hear a lot more on his Versus Media podcast.
Subscribe to his substack, follow him on x at red
Ste's that's ste Ze.
Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
Stephen L.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Miller making his home right here in Colorado and keeping
an eye on the national media. Stephen, great stuff, as always,
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Thanks Bryan, anytime right, Steven L.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Miller joining us here on the Ross Kaminski Show, Ryan
Schuling filling in a lot of conspiracy theories out there
about why Ross is missing. Sure, says this texter at
five six six nine zero. I'm buying it that Ross
had an appointment he couldn't move. Why would he schedule
an appointment during the time he's supposed to be on
the air. Semi professional? Indeed, Wow, what a blast. Usually
(01:05:42):
those are the same for me. Here's a couple from
the same Texter Oh, Ryan and Fox was a beacon
of truth ever said that, don't.
Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Change the subject.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
It's not the red laser pointer cat thing that John
Fetterman talks about. And following up, Trump always exaggerates everything
to self aggrandize or bereat other people. Yes, never denied
that portion of it. Uh to some people, that's part
of his charm and appeal. My point is always this,
I have no problem with the media holding Trump in
(01:06:14):
his administration their feet to the fire, demanding answers details,
what's going on here, getting the scoop, putting the reporter's
press pass hats on those old tiny guys that are
just jumping on cigars, you know, old fashioned journalisming. But
then they abandoned the pretense of that in what we
just talked about, Steven L.
Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
Miller and me, Chuck Todd, Jake Tapper.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
If they applied that same scrutiny, that same level of
skepticism to Joe Biden over the last five years of
however long his entire career, he was let off easy
when that wasn't the case going back to nineteen eighty eight,
remember when he plagiarized Neil Kinnick, and he was called
(01:06:59):
out out by Sam Donaldson the mainstream media led newscast.
Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
It forced him out of the race.
Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
But now the media post Obama has morphed and evolved.
Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
Into this propaganda machine for the left.
Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
That's not what it's supposed to be, the equal opportunity
adversarial media.
Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
And count me in, and I'm in.
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I'm not saying go easy on Trump, but if you're
going to go hard on the Orange Man and says
you know this existential threat to democracy, which is a
bunch of bunk, then go ahead and hold Joe Biden
his administration their feet to the fire night after the fact,
in a book where you can make money when it's
your job and your reputations on the line show up
(01:07:40):
tough then and then I'll believe you, but I don't
believe them.
Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
And that's part of this conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
A time out, we can come back top of the
hour break for news and then Alicia Garcia the latest
in the fight for the Second Amendment here in Colorado,
and remembering a hero from Arveda from four years ago,
Ryan Schuling in for Roskamenski.
Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
This is KOA.
Speaker 23 (01:08:01):
It was what looked to be a normal Monday until
a shooting in Old Town, Arvada led to the killing
of beloved Arvada Police officer Gordon Beasley and forty year
old Johnny Hurley. And as of Friday, we now have
a more detailed look at what happened that day, a
timeline laid out by police. At twelve forty nine, the
shooter's brother called police to warn them, saying Ronald was
going to quote do something crazy. Officer Beasley and another
(01:08:24):
officer responded to Troyki's apartment at one oh eight, but
couldn't find him. Nine minutes later, police got a call
about a suspicious person in the Old Town Square and
that's what brings us here. One point thirty one. Police say,
that's Troki pulling into this parking lot. Officer Beasley shows
up and walks through an alley towards the square. That's
him at the top of the screen, but you can
see the shooter grabs what police say is a shotgun
(01:08:44):
and runs towards Officer Beasley, even passing people who just
happen to be walking by. The shooter gets to Officer
Beasley and will pause the video here. Police say Troki
shot Beasley twice. The shooter then goes back to his
truck and grabs what police say was in AR fifteen.
It does not sh what happened next, but police say
Hurley shot the gunman. When officers got on scene, they
(01:09:05):
say they found Hurley holding the suspect's gun. Police now
confirm an officer shot Hurley. Still police again calling Hurley
a hero Friday for stopping the shooter and saving lives.
Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
A very dark day and a bittersweet day, as it
would turn out, John Hurley a hero mistakenly identified as
the shooter. Everything happening, it's a blur, I get it
or Beta police in that moment June twenty one, twenty
twenty one, that from nine News, which you just heard,
and commemorating the fourth anniversary of that over this past weekend,
(01:09:38):
our next guest, Alicia Garcia. You can find her at
the second syndicate as well.
Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
We'll give you those details.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But this conversation struck up in a series of texts
between Alicia and myself and she joins us, Alicia, thanks
for taking.
Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
The time, Hi Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
I'm doing all right?
Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
And I just look back on this incident, and I
think about what the tribute to John Hurley could have
been if all had worked out and he would have lived.
Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Now we would have lost the police officer.
Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
That was a tremendous tragedy in that moment, but losing
John on top of that made it even worse. Can
you reflect upon the events of that day as you
see them, and why the two A and the fight
for it is so important when it comes to John
in this case.
Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
I remember this pretty vividly and hearing about it.
Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
And wondering, you know, what happened in the course of
those events that led to the demise of such a hero,
because you know, when I saw the videos and I
looked at what had happened, I knew right away, you know,
just being somebody who's involved in firearms and trained avidly
that this man trained, He knew exactly how to use
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cover and canfilment.
Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
He knew it.
Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
You know, he flung into action when other people would
have ran. He took it upon himself to be.
Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
A hero and get things done.
Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
You know, I heard from different sources that I won't
say that. You know, there's an actual video out there
that I've seen that says. Cops said, Hey, you know,
we didn't even feel that we had the proper equipment
to act in the moment, and yet a civilian with
his handgun that he had concealed, flung into action and
he took down a man with a shotgun and a rifle.
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So the man went to his he used the shotgun
to commit an act of violence, came back to the vehicle,
grabbed the ar and then John Hurley was up against
a area where dumpster was popped out of concealment, out
of cover, excuse me, and was able to neutralize that threat.
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And you know, we haven't seen any video footage of what.
Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
There were being told is happening.
Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
And that really bothers me, because there's somebody who trains
to understand cover and concealment and a proper cadence of
making sure that he's landing every single one of his
shots with intention and purpose, which through the video you
can absolutely see he did that. It kind of baffles
me that someone also knowing those things wouldn't also know
(01:12:04):
not to you know, reach down, or have a firearm displayed,
or do certain things when you know emergency services are
being called.
Speaker 7 (01:12:12):
So I'm very.
Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Curious to see as to if that actually is what happened.
But nevertheless, you know, we're so often to recommend the
names to everyone of victims lost and violence, but we
have a hero here that also his name deserves to
be reverended and to be spoken about because John Herley
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is the type of person we want armed. And there's
plenty of people like him in.
Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
Society in Colorado that are that type of person. And
yet we still have lammakers.
Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Using the excuses of mass shootings and active shooters to
disarm people when it's you know, the writings on the
wall here. There's plenty of John.
Speaker 9 (01:12:54):
Hurley's in the world, and what are we doing to
not only celebrate them, but.
Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
To empower them.
Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Alisa Garcia our guests. We always appreciate her time and
her insight on matters like this. You can find her
website and the hub for that is the Second Syndicate
dot com, the Two n D Syndicate dot com, and
she does a podcast biweekly along these lines as well.
We'll get into the recently passed gun law, which is
(01:13:22):
one of the most egregious overreaches and infringing upon our
Second Amendment rights really in national history. Elisia, But just
a couple of questions that I've always had, and you said,
you've seen the video, and I'm not going to leave
this to speculation, but to your informed opinion on what
happened that day and why you mentioned that the Arvada
Police said that they did not have the tactical equipment
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or capabilities to counter the shooter the gunman in real time,
and yet they were able to take down John Hurley.
Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
So I'm looking to square that circle.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
And if there's anything in retrospect, I know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but that John himself, if if you were to advise
somebody in his position, a civilian who is armed that
is trying to do the right thing, if there's anything
he could have done differently to avoid the outcome that
awaited him.
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
You know, the only thing that I think about, and
I mean this is the ugliness of the situation. Is
the reason you train with firearms is avidly, as I do,
and as I recommend my students to do.
Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
So.
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
I'm also firearms educator and am in.
Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
My firearms company.
Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Is can Filled Carry Class of Denver. If anybody is
interested in taking can Fill Carry class, just google that
you'll find us is I always tell them you have
to think and prepare about the before, the during, and
the after of a defensive shoot. And the reason you
train the way you do is because you're taking that
conscious effort of how you handle a firearm to how
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you would handle a firearm subconsciously, with repetated, with practice
and with you know, information and educating yourself on the
best practices. And I always teach my students that done
is always the plan Z right. You always if you
can be escalate, if you can do anything you can
before having.
Speaker 22 (01:15:04):
To go for the gun, do it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
Because the most important thing that we all should think.
Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
About every day of our life is staying home right.
Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Getting home safely and in sound and keep love yourself
to stay alive. But that's what happened that day, right,
there's an active shooter.
Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
Something to happen.
Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
And I mean, I can't tell people how to live
their life. I know what I would do. I would
absolutely be a John Hurley. I would absolutely be a
protector in society because life is precious and that is
why we train it for situations like that. The only
suggestion I have to people is you know, be able to.
Speaker 9 (01:15:39):
Counteract that narrative.
Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Have a cell phone able to you know, once you
use a gun in self defense, or use that to
pick up the phone and say, hey, this is who
I am, this is what I look like. I had
to use my firearm in defense of life. Someone was
trying to kill somebody.
Speaker 9 (01:15:54):
You know, this is what I look like.
Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
This is who I am. Because in a situation, say,
you know you do have to use fire arm and
self defense, and you know, a car drives by or
someone only gets a glimpse and all they see is
you shooting someone. They don't know who the bad guy is, right,
they don't know what you were doing. And if there's
two people with the gun, how do you know which
which was the good guy and which was the bad guy.
So the only way to do that is count count
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of that narrative. It's quickly then, you know, call nine
one one, tell them who you are, tell them that
you were acting in defense of yourself because you're can
still carrying and hang up the phone. After emergency services
and have an attorney and invoke your fitth Amendment right
and have your attorney talk to the cops, because you
never know what the narrative is going to be you know,
hindsight's twenty twenty, and you know, I want to I
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want to pass judgment. You know, I want to say, Okay,
you show up to the scene and someone's and this
is because of the speculation. We don't know what happened
that day, but if a man is standing over another
man who has a handgun and someone has a rifle,
I would assume it would be you know, it would
prove you as a person of you know, authority to say, hey,
drop your weapon, case them, do something to bring them down,
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because that person has information.
Speaker 9 (01:17:03):
That we need to know and we need to know
what they were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
Are you are you potentially allowing yourself to be considered
a suspect?
Speaker 11 (01:17:11):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
Do you deserve a day in court? Yes, you absolutely do.
You deserve to speak up, you deserve to defend yourself,
and you also just deserve to be armed. And I
just think about it, like, why are we celebrating, you know,
the lost and also not celebrating the heroes as well,
Because when I was speaking to John Hurley's mom this
weekend at an event that they had for him in
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Old Town Ravada, one of the things that she said
is that, you know, we always always respect and honor
Officer Beasley as well because she died that day. But
you know, people don't want to don't want to focus
on that, They don't want to see that that It
is about celebrating everybody that died that day and celebrating
the lives.
Speaker 9 (01:17:53):
That are saved because someone did what they did and.
Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Took action and protected countless lives. I mean, the cop
that literally shot John Hurley is alive because of John
Hurley and Alicia Garcia.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
You can follow on x at Boomstick Babe. She's on
all thesocials. Second Syndicate dot com is where you can
find her. Remembering John Hurley. The anniversary of that unfortunate
series of events in Arvada over this past weekend, marking
four years, and Alicia told me she wants to go
on and have an even bigger and better celebration of
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John Hurley's life and his sacrifice next year, in twenty
twenty five, that'll mark twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Rather, that'll mark.
Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Five years since the incident took place, And of course
it will nearly coincide with the new gun grab bill,
the magazine band, the forced coerce training that you have
to pay for in order to exercise your Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
That goes into effect August of next year. A time out.
Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
We're back with more Ryan Schuling filling in for Ros
Kaminski on KOA. There's just a lot of negative energy
out there. I know, it's kind of gloomy.
Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Filling in. My apologies. Ross isn't here.
Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
There are a lot of speculation and conspiracy theories as
to why, including this one Ryan. I think Ross got
sick by accidentally eating some blue cheese. That's why he's
not in. Is there a blue cheese avoidance issue for Ross?
Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
He can't have it desperately hates blue cheese, hates it.
Bell Pepper's Yeah, yeah, oh wow. I love them both.
Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
And when you order wings at a restaurant, I mean
you're one of two people, just like Luma Thurman says
in the deleted scene from Pulp Fiction, you're either an
Elvis person or your Beatles person. You didn't like them both,
but you like one more than the other. And in
this instance, when you go order wings, are you a
ranch or blue cheese guy?
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Go neither? You just toot the wings themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Okay, wow, straight up, you're pretty fierce I'm a blue
cheese guy, love blue cheese. Cannot stand Ranch. It's like
Elmer's glue. That's my opinion. Now many of you out
there may disagree, and you're big Ranch people hitting Valley Ranch.
Speaker 7 (01:19:55):
No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
Let's get to some more.
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Tell Boomstick Baby to keep up the great work. I
will I have and I'll do it again. This is
like fringe alt right podcast level stuff. At least Ross
talks some facts and tries to think for himself. You
sound like you're trying out for Fox News that Texter
didn't have enough. Another bite at the Apple. Let's give
this person one more to another one here. I thought
(01:20:22):
Ross's show was tough to listen to, but this is
just terrible. I feel like I'm listening to an OAM broadcast.
Why is right wing news fixated on Biden when he's
not even president on top of all the insanity happening
in the world. Classic the version technique, because while he
was in office, none of this scrutiny was being applied
to him. This is what you miss, Texter, and now
(01:20:43):
it's after the fact, now he's out of office. Where
were the Jake Tapper books and the Chuck Todd scrutiny
while he was in office.
Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
You know where it was.
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
It was buried because they were afraid the Orange Man
was going to win. And what happened anyway? All right,
to break this to you, the Orange Man won, so
despite all their efforts to conceal Biden's obvious semility, which
if you were honest with yourself you would admit that
you saw too. But they were telling you. Don't believe
(01:21:14):
your lying eyes. They are deep fakes. I don't like
being lied to. Maybe you do, and Kay, in fact,
you must like being lied to because you continue to
consume the same media feeding you the same play to crap,
even with lu Cheese on it. See how I brought
that full circle. Time out, We're gonna lighten things up.
Jamie Lissou joins me. He's coming to Comedy Works South
(01:21:35):
in December, but I couldn't wait until then. He's a
great guy. He's very funny. You've seen him on Gutfeld.
You'll hear him here next, Ryan schuling in for ros
Kaminski on KOA. Jamie Lisso going on tour for comedy
and he's coming right here to Comedy Works. Eventually he'll
make his way here in Greenwood Village. He's been here
several times before. We look forward to him coming back
and he joins us now, Jamie, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
Hey, thanks for thanks for having me back. Man. I
owe I think am. I mentioned this last time we talked,
but my favorite thing about Denver. It was one of
the first that comedy works out. I had just done
the full a few times. I swear, this is not
a bit and I pulled up to where the club
is and there was a huge line, and the manager
was driving me, and I go, what's going on tonight?
And he guess, what are you talking about? That's lines
(01:22:17):
for you? And I go, what are you talking about?
I thought it was like a line for other people.
So I've always really appreciated the the support from Denver.
I think I think I am that way because I
used to do veguas all the time the ex Caliber
back in the day, and every time we go down
for a show, there'd be a huge line and it
was for the Thunder from down Under, and then no
one would come to our show.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Could you give the people what they want, Jamie, which
is a little bit of your Thunder from down Under?
Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
I wish I wish I had gone that way. We dude,
we shared a dressing room, me and I guess. I
guess it would be more of an undressing right right.
But I swear to again at the ex caliber that
we share a room with those guys.
Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Now, I just realized I may have been saying your
name wrong all these years. I was saying, like lisal
and I'm sure you hear that a lot, but it's Lisso?
Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
Man?
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
Maybe I've been seeing it wrong. I give both a lot.
I see Lisso, but gottshaltz Lissau.
Speaker 8 (01:23:12):
I know he does.
Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
Does he do that intentionally control you?
Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
I think? For My mom told me, could you please
tell him how to pronounce our name correctly? I said sure,
and I told him several.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Times, and then I was like, this is not changing,
you know what, I'm going to follow your mom's lead
and not Greg's.
Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
I think that's the better idea, just on the whole,
don't you?
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
And I go, I go mad? Do you understand how
badly I need Greg gooseld.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
I got another clip from another show that you appear
on with him. At just a moment, Jamie Lisso our
guest I mean he's coming to Comedy Works South.
Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
It's in December fourth through six.
Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
But give me a heads out because his tour starts
at the Improv in Hollywood, Jamie, go big or go home?
Speaker 7 (01:23:54):
Right, That's right, man, that's right. I'm going to go
big then go home. See what I've just said.
Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Why the Improv? Why Hollywood? Why start there?
Speaker 7 (01:24:05):
It's a great question. We just wanted to see how
we would do at the Hollywood Improv because we kind
of thought that might be one of the tougher places
for us to Celtics because there's like so much going
on and you know that area, and we are very
very man. It's almost sold out, and so we we
do real, we do real, real long in California, dude.
Colorado though Colorado has been I mean it is tied
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for first with my absolute favorite places to perform with
people really come out.
Speaker 11 (01:24:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
The first time I went to Denver, I didn't know
about like your elevation and all that stuff. I didn't
know anything. I'd never been and I called the club.
I go, hey, I'm just checking in. I'll be there
at like seven, and the manager goes, hey, bring oxygen,
and I go listen. I'm not the most famous comedian
in the world, but I feel like that's something the
club should provide. I had no idea. I love those canisters, man,
(01:24:56):
I get a whole case of those canisters. I don't
know if they do anything, but I like him.
Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
That's a good luck. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
And his tour goes from, as I mentioned, December Greenwood
Village Here, a comedy work South and all the way
through the mid part of January.
Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
So buckle in. I guess, Jamie, this is a long tour.
Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
You know, how do you prepare yourself for something like
this because it's an act and the people that are
coming to see you, they're seeing it for the first time,
but you're doing it either over and over. You're making
some adjustments. Can you take us through that part of
the process and how you plan for this and how
you deliver.
Speaker 7 (01:25:26):
Yeah, so I'll be tired of this act by Saturday,
but I will. I'll tell you what it's actually it works.
I sort of fashion my new hours based on what's
going on in my life, and so I'm sort of
shedding a little bit of the divorce dad. You know,
I make a lot of jokes about my ex wife
on TV and on jows and just to let you
know all that stuff. It is just it is just
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jokes based on facts, you know what I mean. Yeah,
and this new act is like like I just got
I got married on Saturday. Congratulations, very shirt, and I'm
actually calling you on my I'm on my honeymoon right now.
Speaker 6 (01:26:02):
Is that going overwhelm on my honeymoon?
Speaker 7 (01:26:04):
It's going, well, she's just here on the bed going
over the pre noo. And but yeah, you so you
kind of have. It's it's kind of easy for me
to do the set because it's just like truth. You know,
like I feel like I'm still divorced obviously, but you
know that's not going away. But I feel like it
sort of mimics life, and so it's easy to do,
Like this New Hour about I kind of I get
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compared to Rodney Dangerfield quite a bit, which I take
is a you know, I'm not as funny as him,
but I take it as a compliment. And I do
think though some people go, you're going to ruin your brand.
You're married. You married this woman and I feel like
she's an attractive woman and uh, and say you're gonna
ruin your brand. But my argument is always like eel,
Like if Rodney was on Carson, He's like, oh, I
(01:26:48):
get no respect. You're like, I don't know. This is
your fifty seventh appearance on Garson, but this feels like respect.
You've got a comedy club with your name on it.
I feel like at some point it's okay to celebrate
that things are going a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
And when it's time to celebrate, Jamie, Lissa comes to
me and let me clarify that because you mentioned Denver
being a special place for you, Jamie and I recall
distinct is the last time you were here, Erica.
Speaker 9 (01:27:12):
Was with you.
Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
You had just proposed she had accepted.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
You told me that story as well, and in fact,
this was the club that you first invited her to
when you just started dating.
Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Correct, well, very very.
Speaker 7 (01:27:23):
Close to what happened. She actually came to the club
without telling me. We had never oh wow, met in
person since the first time we had ever spoken, like
two years before, and we've been texting for like two years.
And she came and sat in the front row and
I was on stage and it was a sold out
show and I saw her and was unable to speak
(01:27:44):
for what I felt like was six hours, but I
guess it was like one minute. I saw her in
the front row, and it's so funny, man Like she
has since learned that I hate people sitting in the
front row, and so it was like, so yeah, but
that was the very first place we hung out was Denver.
Do you know what, I get a lot I would
like to ask you this question. I get a lot
of people go h they look at her. This happed
(01:28:07):
me last night. I was doing like a Chriinas material,
like an open mic type of thing, getting prepared for
the tour, and this guy comes up and Eric's with me,
and he looks at her and he looks at me.
He's kind of drunk, and he goes, man, he goes,
you out kicked your coverage.
Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Yeah. Have you heard that one oh plenty of times
and including for myself.
Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Yeah, okay, okay. Do you take it as an insult
or a compliment?
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
It's both Jamie and I think it's definitely a compliment
to her. It's not so much a compliment to you.
But I think it is a compliment to you. And
let me explain why, because I think the fact that
you were able to quote unquote OutKick.
Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
Your coverage shows Hey, you had something going for you.
Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
I like that insight in between me and you. I
looked at his wife and it looks like he got
a safety.
Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
So Jamie list joining us. He's on tour starting that
the Improv in Hollywood. He's coming to comedy works here
in Greenwood Village in December, and a lot of places
in between. Now, I'm not going to mean this is
mean is it's going to sound. So I'm not going
Greg Guttfeld here against her acts. However, I've met Erica.
She's wonderful, she's a doctor. You're married to her. Now
(01:29:10):
again another highlight. You're on your honeymoon. This is phenomenal.
You're living the dream, Jamie. But for you personally, I
I'm going to focus on that part of it. For
you personally, what kind of an upgrade is this relationship
for you from where you were with your ex wife.
Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
I feel like the upgrade that would compare to getting
a new iPhone to replace just yelling loudly.
Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
That's significance.
Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
It feels like, you know, I, me and my ex
get along. We actually get along super well. I you know,
we just did like a thing where I hung out
with the kids for a week. I met her in Seattle.
She took the kids. She has a very good sense
of humor. But I feel like we were just kind
of incompatible. And I don't blame her. It's just like
when you are home with kids, all of my good
news was bad news for her. Like if I came
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home and said I got a TV show, she would
hear I'm leaving for six months and you have to
be with the kids. I'm going to film. So I
do get it. But I feel like with this new
you know, this new upgrade, we are completely on the
same page as to where like she's you know, she's
doing tell them medicine. I'm going to sound proof booth
right now, and she's in the one next to me
seeing a patient right behind me. So all of our
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goals are sort of like entwined. And by the way,
she's seen patients. I'm doing radio interviews. I'm trying to
convince her just switch one of them. Let me go
in that room. I'll tell you how I do.
Speaker 11 (01:30:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I think you can handle it because for a time
there you were doing a podcast.
Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
Right, Yeah, I think I'd be okay. I like the
woman would be like, why do you need to see
my breasts? I have a sprained ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
It's priorities and these are doctoral in their medicinal in nature.
Jimmy Lissa joining us. Let's see Greg Guttfeldt if he
gets his last name right.
Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
I was just corrected on it.
Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
This is from What Did I Miss, where Jamie serves
as a panelist with the newly turned Kat Timp, who
of course was on maternity to leave spoiler.
Speaker 24 (01:31:03):
We're full of Kat and Jamie know the answers, the
audience knows, and I definitely do you.
Speaker 6 (01:31:09):
You know nothing.
Speaker 24 (01:31:10):
You've been living under a rock as fossilized as Mitch McConnell,
and tonight we're here to mess with you, especially these guys.
There are department of bs or dogs. One will be
spreading fake news and the other delivering real news. And
here's the catch. You won't know who's doing what, and
it changes every game. It's up to you to figure
(01:31:32):
out if what they're telling you is real news or
fake news.
Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
Now, if you guess right, you add money to your
group prize fund.
Speaker 24 (01:31:39):
Guess wrong, you look stupid and we laugh at you.
Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Frankly. I hope that's the case.
Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Now, you mentioned Jamie, you told your mom you need
Greg Goutfeld, and you take all this abuse on his
regular nightly program intentionally, and you've told me before that
there's some k fabes, some pro wrestling stuff going on
behind the scenes. He's like, Oh, I don't want to
go too hard. You're like, no, you're fine, Please go
push the little bit harder. And yet you choose to
sign up for more with this What did I miss?
Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
Why? But What did I miss? Game Show? Was the
best concept I have ever heard for a gain. It's
like you kind of just heard it there, but people
sequestered for ninety days, no phone, no TV, no yelling
out windows, and then you go ask questions about the news,
and my god, man Trump made this the hardest game
show of all time because the things he does are
(01:32:27):
so hard to believe. I was not sequestered in the house,
and I did not know some of the answers. I
was like, he's gonna be on the one hundred dollars bill?
Are you serious? Like there were some stuff where I
was like, how do I miss that? And so I
will do dude, I will do anything Greg wants to do.
I'll do the gussaled ice grades. If he asked me
whatever it takes keep selling tickets, I'm in. I'll do
whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Jamie, I've asked you this several times, but the answer
might change every time I catch up with you. And
that is is there a moment from the show, could
be recent, could be a while ago, that really stands
out for you, that just jumps out like, Wow, I
can't believe we just went their moment.
Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Oh man, that's a that's a that's a very good question.
I would say maybe my newest one was recently. I
was on the show and right before we went on
the air, we do like five stories and I write
jokes all day long and then I go on the
air and I barely do any of them, but I
have them as like a backup. And they had sent
(01:33:23):
an email saying that two of the stories had changed,
and I saw the email on television, so like on
break on television, I looked at my phone and it
was basically like, you have two stories that you have
not written any jokes for and there are four million
people watching. And that was maybe my favorite show, and
(01:33:44):
my favorite moment in that was Greg was talking about NGOs,
Ryan I don't know. I don't know what that is,
and normally I can research, and so i'd smart ngo.
I'd never even heard it before, and I remember I
said something like, I don't know what an ngo is.
I just know it is like the end of the song.
(01:34:04):
So I thye. That was my favorite episode because it
was just the excitement and stress anxiety of not being
like just having to fly by the CD or pants.
That was like one of my favorite shows of all
time looking back, That's.
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Where some of the best stuff comes from. And for
this show that I love and I try to watch
it every night. You know, Greg as kind of the
pots stir. You have Kat Temph now back, You've got
Tyrus yourself. That's kind of the dream team, the Fab four,
if you will, the regulars. There's always that fifth chair though,
and my final question for you is who has been
your favorite person in that fifth chair? And was there ever,
(01:34:37):
like maybe a celebrity guest who's not used to that
format that was just this wide eyed, not ready for
prime time player person that sat there, if you care
to name that person.
Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
It's so funny that happens is so often, and you know,
I really I think of I don't know. I think
me and Norton probably pushed the television envelope as far
as you can go. And I noticed that the producers.
I can't think of a specific you know, like Harris
Faulkner once went on for the first time with me,
and the producer told me, whenever I deliver a punchline,
(01:35:07):
he goes to her camera to get her reaction. I
thought that was so funny, and I gotta go. I
love so many of our guests, so many of our
regular guests, but I gotta go. My number one fifth
chair no competition is Emily Campania. Yes, because she laughs
at every single one of my jokes. There's no bombing
that day. I know I got Emily. I know I
(01:35:29):
got Emily, and I know the guys love her. And
there's a lot of guys that when Emily's on, you
know they're Washington was sound up, pants off, but big
fan of Emily Compania.
Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
You know what else, Jamie, I'm gonna give you credit
for this. I think you inspired her because I know
that she just got engaged and you set the path.
Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
You showed her the way I did.
Speaker 7 (01:35:46):
Man, I should I showed her the way I did
it first, I knew, dude, I'm gonna tell you a
story that I shouldn't even say because it's so embarrassing.
So I when I was single, I thought Emily. The
people were online saying. They kept saying stuff like I
think Emily likes you, I think she's flirting with you
and Ryan. I made a huge mistake. What I did
is I believed those people, and I actually went on
(01:36:11):
Instagram and I messaged her and I said, Hey, maybe
we could go off for a drink sometime, and she
wrote back that would be great. We should all go
for a drink sometime. Me you, Greg tyed like it
was one of those like very polite, I don't want
to be alone with you in a room. I'm scared,
and then passed forward when I met I don't think
I've ever told you about the story when I passed forward.
(01:36:32):
When I met Erica, and I did feel like she
was a little bit out of my league or possibly
in a different sport. I think she's playing NFL football
and I was playing pickleball with a Walmart kit. She
Emily was very instrumental in telling me, hey, you're good enough.
That girl loves you like she was very very helpful
to me meeting Erica, and that's when I found out
she had that long term boyfriend now fiance. That is
(01:36:55):
very good news. Good to hear.
Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
Wow, way to put a fine point on it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Jamie Lissel starts at the Improv in Hollywood, California. He
continues his tour all the way through the middle of January,
and oh, by the way, in early December right here
at Comedy Works South in Greenwood Village. Jamie, I'll be
sure to catch up with you then and I'll look
forward to seeing you and Erica then, thank you so
much for taking the time today.
Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
All right, man, can't wait. We'll see Coalredo.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Always an interesting conversation. How about that story on Emily Campano.
You talk about this beautiful woman Italian. She was a
former Raiders cheerleader and has a law degree. Very sharp,
very smart, very attractive. I mean, I don't blame the guy. Right,
shoot your shot, dragon did it? And look he's been
married how many years? Fifteen years?
Speaker 6 (01:37:38):
There you go, right, your wife is a wonderful woman. Lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
We had a moment in the theater sharing skittles. Yes,
there are skittles in there. Hang over reference. But Yeah,
how did you know Dragon, Let's finish on this note.
How did you know? When did you know? His head
is in his hands right now? When it's so silly.
Speaker 17 (01:38:00):
We're just dating at the time, we went and got
tacos from Taco Bell and she's eating and all the
smoitts has falling out the back of the taco into
the wrapper, and she looks over at me and she goes,
would you think less of me if I licked the rapper?
I looked right back at her and said, I think
less of you if you didn't lick the rapper.
Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
You know what that is?
Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Marriage material? And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Because you want a woman who's comfortable enough in her
own skin that she's gonna be herself, Yeah, around you.
And that was her, authentically her, genuinely her. And what
does that do that unlocks Dragon's ability to be authentically him?
Speaker 9 (01:38:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Is there something that you do that you know might
be a little out there? But she just accepts that
about you because you're dragging you or her husband and
she loves you.
Speaker 17 (01:38:50):
I'm probably a bit, you know, a neat freak, controlling
that kind of thing. Everything, everything has its place at
home and yeah, if she just you know, comes in
and just unloads all of her stuff and I'm like, no,
I have to put it away, so you're little OCD.
Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
See that's a very important thing when you're merging lives,
and I'm in the process of doing this right now
with my fiancee Kelsey, is you have to have compatible
levels of messiness. And in our instance, I think this
at least was the case for you. You have a
dearly departed pat a dog. But when you're dog people,
I mean some of that goes out the window, the
(01:39:31):
neat freak stuff. I mean, yeah, we got a puppy
right now, and accidents are going to happen. Luckily, we've
got like hardwood floors and a portion where we don't
have to worry about carpet clean up.
Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
But then, you know, what is that acceptable level of messiness,
if there is any.
Speaker 17 (01:39:47):
I've learned to accept that she has to have her
spaces in the house that I just can't go in
about messing with because then it'll be, you know, a
problem for her, because whatever I move, whatever I put away,
won't be where she left it, and then she won't
be able to find it. So I just like her sink,
and I don't go near her sink at all. I
(01:40:09):
think if you can. Now, not everybody can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Not everybody can afford the lifestyles of the rich and
famously Dragon. But to have your own individual sinks or
even entire bathrooms, that's a plus, right, Yeah, got to
have your own area, right, your own domain.
Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Yes, of course. Do you have a layer, your Dragon?
Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
Of course?
Speaker 17 (01:40:27):
I do you have a layer the workout room in
the little game room does okay?
Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
All right?
Speaker 12 (01:40:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Is that exclusive to you? Or is missus Dragon welcome
to parties? Is welcome to okay? It doesn't usually correct you.
Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
I'm getting lots of tips here from Dragon. Very useful,
very helpful, and I appreciate you. Man five six six
nine zero. The raging debate on ranch versus blue cheese
continuing on I like this texture. Look, I'm a mature person.
I can have ranch or blue cheese fair enough. I
just can't stand ranch, you know. And there are very
few foods on this planet that I hate, but one
(01:41:01):
of them is forced upon me. And I've found out
it's about maybe ten percent of the population has this
cilantro thing where it tastes like soap.
Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I hate it because that's my wife. Yeah yeah, and
my dad has it. I think I inherited the gene
from him. And I've tried, folks, I've tried all these things, cilantro, lime,
rice and pacos and stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
I'll do it this time, do it? This time is fresh.
Maybe it's soap right in my mouth? Never changes.
Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Hey, And I don't want to hate it because it's
in so many things, and I hate being that guy.
You know, you go to the restaurant, authentic Mexican Restaurant'm
gonna get the tacos and the limes and all that.
Speaker 6 (01:41:34):
Oh would you please hold of the cilantro. I don't
want to have it the way you guys prepare it.
I would like it my own way.
Speaker 7 (01:41:40):
Please.
Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Oh, here's Maddy Connall. Let's ask Kurt really quickly. Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Are you one of those people like me that has
the cilantro gene where it tastes like soap?
Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
Or can you eat all the cilantro you want?
Speaker 25 (01:41:50):
You know, I've not been a cilantro fan for much
of my life, but I'm kind of turning the corner
on that.
Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
How does it even happen?
Speaker 9 (01:41:56):
Though?
Speaker 25 (01:41:56):
I don't know. I don't think I had the soap jeane.
I just didn't care for it. But now I find
myself like I'm owning. Then then they did for a
little Pico de gaya. Gotta have a little Slantro in
the Pico Degayo, I know, but I don't put it
in my guacamole.
Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Thank God.
Speaker 25 (01:42:09):
So I'm Cilantro.
Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
I'm like by Cilantro.
Speaker 25 (01:42:11):
I could yes Cilantro or I could know Cilantro, whichever
one you're Cilantro.
Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
Curious, Yes I am.
Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
I am.
Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
I haven't seen you in a while.
Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I've been gone.
Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Parts unknown, well parts known well known to you. Yeah, no,
nobody told us tells me anything. Dragon was there too,
can meet you all. De Marogato, mister robots, they don't like.
Speaker 25 (01:42:35):
But the edigoto is what you was, what you say
at agatto. Here are the words that I learned erragato,
of course, thank you?
Speaker 8 (01:42:41):
Can you?
Speaker 10 (01:42:41):
Qua is hello, good day?
Speaker 25 (01:42:43):
And then I learned how to say uh oh no, wait,
oh no, mussie no show careful sima massen shima masen
means excuse me. Because I kept bumping into people and
because there's so many people, and then I learned how
to say shima masen, and that means excuse me, let's
put a fine point.
Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
Yes, you're a giant there.
Speaker 25 (01:43:01):
Well yeah, come on. And my husband's bigger then well too,
so he takes the pressure off.
Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
Right, you know.
Speaker 25 (01:43:06):
And then I also learned how to say oishi, which
is delicious.
Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
I'm turning Japanese, I really think. So what's coming up
on the Mandy com.
Speaker 25 (01:43:12):
We got a good show today planned for you. Of course,
we're going to talk about the Doug co Home Rule
initiative going down in flames like in spectacular fashion. We've
also got a guy coming on to talk about the
social security situation. Is the trust Fund going broke or not?
And we've got a Hillsdale War historian coming on the
show to talk about how October seventh was destined to
end with Israel at.
Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
War with Iron.
Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
All of that and more still to come on the
Mandy Connells Show, Stay tuned for that. I've been Ryan
Schuling filling in for Ross Kaminski. The big Man's back
tomorrow here on Koa
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