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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Choa News time six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Gina Gondek, a Denver police officer on leave and
a burglary suspect is dead following an officer involved shooting
that took place early this morning in an apartment complex
near South Parker and Peoria Street. Police Chief John Thomas's
officers got a call just before two o'clock early this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
It was in fact berg verso Is actually called in
by the homeowner, who was off site but was able
to see what was going on from a ring camera
that they had a fixed to their property. Was able
to provide information on where the subject was.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Chief Thomas is the man put down a knife he
was carrying and then picked it up again lunged towards
the officers.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's when one of them fired.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The former athletic trainer convicted of sexually assaulting two teen
athletes he coached, has now been sentenced to at least
seventy six years in prison. Aaron currado ex wife, Natalie Jollins,
first discovered the texts and social media messages that he
exchanged with the teens and reported them to police.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I am just so grateful these girls can have some justice,
but they can move on with their lives. Hopefully it's
going to affect them forever.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Citing multiple bond violations, The judge that Coroto acted selfishly
and manipulated the teens with no remorse. The government is
back open, but airline travel is not back to normal
just yet. There are already more than six hundred cancelations
today forty one of those at DIA.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Industry leaders say it could take a week or longer
for air travel to get back to normal. While passengers
are relieved the shutdown is over, some we spoke to
our frustrated Congress allowed it to drag on for as
long as it did.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's Fox's Garrett Tenney.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
An airline trade group wants to prevent future travels disruptions
in the next government shutdown. Airlines for America is urging
Congress to ensure future issues do not allow air travel
to become collateral damage. The group also highlighted the FAA's
five billion dollar fund, which it says could be used
to pay air traffic controllers during future shutdowns. Colorado Congresswoman

(01:57):
Lauren Bober continues to push for the release of the
Jeffrey Epps Stein files, calling the whole situation a distraction.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
This is not a topic that I want to spend
every single day on. I did make campaign promises to
do what I could to release.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
The filed She was one of four Republicans to sign
a Democratic led petition to force a vote on the
House floor calling for the release of that information.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
She met with Attorney General Pambondi this week.

Speaker 7 (02:22):
I sat at that.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Table and asked if they would simply meet with the victims,
something that has not taken place yet.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Bobert insists she was not threatened by the White House
over her call to learn more about the investigation. On
Wall Street, stocks ended the day yesterday much lower. Stock
futures down this morning, futures down, US Dow down two
hundred and sixty points, SMP down sixty five, Nasdaq futures
down three seventy one. In sports, the Avs now beating

(02:49):
the Sabers last night six to three. They'll be hosting
the New York Islanders Sunday night, the Nuggets visiting the
Minnesota Timberwolves tomorrow night, and obviously the Broncos getting ready
to host our biggest rival to Kansas City Chiefs Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Our KOA coverage will begin at eight a m.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Kickoff at two twenty five, and our social media pole
question for this morning, who do you got? Who do
you think will win? Hopefully the Broncos. You can engage
with us on our social media platforms. Leave us a
talkback on the iHeartRadio app Fox thirty one Pinpoint. Weather
unseasonably warm again today, high temperature in the low seventies,
dipping down into the forties overnight tonight. Currently we're at

(03:25):
forty nine in Denver. Our next update in fifteen minutes.
I'm Gina condak on koa.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Hi, Gina.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
I always like to stay hi just right when you
have a sip or a bite of something.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Let's start choking on my water at some point.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
And as producer, Dragon behind the glass with his Broncos.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hoodie on, Yeah, to get the memo.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
Man, it's kind of a thing we accidentally accidentally intentionally
do on Fridays. Huh correct, Yeah, Thursday game, you can
do it on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
Yeah, you have Broncos gear. You that sweet vinchaged Broncos jacket.
I do.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I have a ton of Broncos gear, so I have
to decide do I want to wear it before a
game or after a win. That's usually how I'm I work.
It's works if you wear from perstition.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Exactly, just like Ross listening to the game on KOA.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, No, all right, we have a ton
of stuff to do today.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
As Gina and I just mentioned, We've got the mayor
at seven forty seven, We've got the Attorney General at
seven oh four. We've got Jack Corrigan at eight oh
four talking about rocky stuff. We've got Kevin Neiland hopefully
in studio at a thirty four. We got a lot
to do now. I want to just start the show
with a few minutes about markets and economics and stuff
like that. So yesterday I mentioned to you that the

(04:37):
stock market, not so much the NASDAC, but the other
indices had been very very strong for previous four days
or so going into the end of the government shutdown. Right,
the markets anticipated that they ran up on that. This
is what markets do, right, This is what markets do.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
They anticipate moves.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
They are discounting mechanisms, looking at the future, and sometimes
the future can be just a few days, and sometimes
it can be yeah, six to twelve months. I wouldn't
say normally it's looking much further than that. And then
what I said yesterday was okay, and now the market
is going to start looking at whatever else is really
going on in the world, how is the economy, what's

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the path of interest rates, and that sort of thing,
because they don't need to focus on a.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Government shutdown anymore.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
And what the market decided later in the day yesterday
after our show was done, was that the market is
a little bit nervous, and in particular about the path
of interest rates. And here's just one little tidbit I
would like to mention to you that I think is
quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
There have been a couple of Fed governors.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
These are members of the Open Market Committee who have
expressed some hesitancy toward cutting interest rates again in December.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Now, if you.

Speaker 8 (05:52):
Had looked at what I will loosely call betting, but
it's really trading and listed financial futures, it's not betting
on a gambling site, people believed that there was over
a ninety percent chance.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
That the Fed would cut in December.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
Yesterday in trading in what's called Fed funds futures, those
odds dropped to below fifty percent. And part of the
reason why I'm mentioning this in almost the same breath
as the government shutdown, is that one of the things
that happened during the government shutdown is these agencies that

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would typically collect the data for things like a jobs report,
a CPI inflation report, they were closed.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
They didn't collect the data.

Speaker 8 (06:39):
Now we're basically getting to the time where you need
to collect the data for the next month, rather for November,
rather than for October.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And so what we were told yesterday, although there were.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
Hints of it the day before, is that the government
may never release October CPI numbers and the October jobs report.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Not just that it might be delayed, it might never
come out.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
And what that means is the FED will be working
with only half as much data when they get into
their December meeting to try to figure out whether they
should cut or not. And that hads market participants thinking, wow,
maybe the Fed won't cut now. And this is part

(07:26):
of the reason. And I won't get into all the
nerdiness here, because there is a lot of nerdiness, but
typically you will find technology stocks do much worse in
an unfavorable interest rate environment than large industrial stocks. You
will find that the Nasdaq does much worse in an

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environment of either rising interest rates or stable interest rates,
but where the market had been expecting.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Declining interest rates.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
So relative to expectations now we are adjusting interest rate
expectations higher than nas DECK does worse in that environment.
So the NASDA yesterday was a very bad day in
American market. It's not a crash, but the worst day
in a month and the second worst day in six
months or something like that. And it looks like it's
gonna continue today. But what you're gonna find is that

(08:16):
tech stocks did much worse yesterday than non tech stocks,
and it's gonna be the case again today, at least
on the opening, and that's because of fears of a
less favorable interest rate path. That Money and Markets commentary
brought to you by Blue Heron Capital.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
What dragon you.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
Look like you were gonna hit a button, like you're
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
A nerd button or something. You were up to something
you you can change your nerd button if you want.

Speaker 8 (08:42):
Well, you don't have to. Let me stick with economics
for for a minute here. Actually, let me tell you
a quick story and then I'm gonna come to the
news story that hit last night. There were again this
is one of these things or the little hints of it,
and then a bigger story comes out later. So I
got email from a listener who's in a business where

(09:03):
he needs to use a lot of metal, and so
a lot of times it's custom metal.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
For example, like Bill and I'm.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Not even exactly sure what this is, but I think
it's some kind of very fancy metal structure around a
public building in in Colorado Springs. And my listener needed
a bunch of fancy metal things. I don't even know
what these things mean, right, but double track, bi partying, cantilever,

(09:33):
gate accessories and hardware.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's do you? Yeah, don't you? Yeah? Really?

Speaker 9 (09:41):
Yeah? Wow?

Speaker 8 (09:42):
Weirdo yeah wow double Candi Leaver gates.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Anyway, you get the idea.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
So, like, apparently some kind of super fancy security gate
something something that Gena and Dragon have but I don't
so check this out.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So here's what you need to know.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
This custom metal stuff that he needs he cannot find
in the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Right, he cannot find it. It's made in Canada.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
There isn't a supplier in the United States of America,
according to my listener for this very very specific stuff
that he needs.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, So now let me just.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Tell you what the quote was that he got on
buying these parts.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
So let me let me find the subtotal here. Let
me find the subtotal on this number, because I want
to make sure I get this exactly right. Okay, I'll
just round. You'll get the idea.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Twenty eight thousand dollars for all the parts, twelve thousand
dollars in tariff.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Got it?

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Twenty eight thousand dollars for the parts, twelve thousand in tariff,
for a total of just under forty one thousand dollars,
of which thirty percent is attax imposed on him as
an American by the American president.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's a sales tax.

Speaker 8 (11:06):
Now, how is this guy supposed to earn a decent
living with this?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
How is that public building?

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Right? It could be an office building, could be a library,
It could be a city hall, it could be something.
How are the tax payers supposed to be paying an
extra twelve thousand dollars in Donald Trump sales tax and
still have money left over for other things that are
much more important than paying an extra sales tax for
whatever the city needs to do?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So the thing I wanted to just mention to you quickly.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
Here is that the Trump administration appears to be backing
off just in a very narrow way on tariffs, and
they are going to be coming out soon with an
announcement about lowering tariffs, probably first on certain food items,
and then after that maybe on some other items that
are not made in the United States. So they're gonna

(11:59):
lower tariffs on coffee and bananas and some other things.
They may also lower tariffs on beef, which they absolutely should,
what else, pineapple's vanilla, stuff like that, And maybe they
will soon get to lowering tariffs on other things that
are not made in the United States. Because whatever you
think of tariff policy, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
But maybe you think you can.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
Use that to incentivize production in the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It doesn't matter what level of tariff you have.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
We are not going to grow coffee in the United
States of America. And it's hard to think of anything
dumber than just raising everybody's price for coffee and bananas
and all these things that we don't and can't make here.
The Trump administration knows it's not working for them politically,
and now they're going to start to do something about it.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
But it does have.

Speaker 8 (12:47):
It's a double edged sword because it also shows the
tariffs raise prices.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
All right, let's go to Gina find out what's going
on in the world. KOA News Time, six fourteen.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
While the government is reopened, there's still some lingering issues
at airports nationwide. Yesterday we still sol over one thousand
cancelations and there's over six hundred cancel flights today, forty
one of those at DiiA. Secretary of Homeland Security Christinome
praising TSA agents handing out ten thousand dollars bonuses for
those who worked during the shutdown.

Speaker 10 (13:18):
Stepped up every single day to make sure that those
individuals at our airports and at our transportation systems continued
to be safe and secure while they went about their
daily lives, and limited the impact on those families that
relied so much on getting to where they needed to
be on time.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
The FAA keeping flight reductions frozen and will be monitoring
staffing levels as controllers start to receive their back pay.
After one hundred and two days on strike, thousands Boeing
employees are back at work after approving a new five
year contract. Members of the International Machinists and Aerospace workers
voted yesterday to pass the latest offer.

Speaker 11 (13:53):
It was time considering with the different contract we've gone through,
so I felt at this time of the year it
was signed.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
To put in a vote.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It gives union members a pay raise, the six thousand
dollars upfront bonus, and guarantees all members will keep their
jobs even with Boeing hiring replacement workers. The President and
First Lady want to bolster the US foster care system.

Speaker 12 (14:15):
The couple were on hand at a White House event
where Trump signed an executive order connected to the Fostering
the Future initiative.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
The order is focused on support.

Speaker 12 (14:23):
For youth in foster care who age out of the
system and into adulthood. Malania Trump said too many foster
kids end up homeless once they exit the system. Childhood
resource issues have been central to Milania Trump's The Best Initiative.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I'm Mark Mayfield and Senator John Fetterman recovering after falling
near his home during a morning walk. A spokesperson for
the Pennsylvania Democrats that he was transported to a Pittsburgh
hospital out of an abundance of caution. Betterman was found
to have had a ventricular fibrillation flare. Up that caused
him to feel lightheaded and fall. Yesterday, he joked about
the minor injuries to his face, saying, quote, if you

(14:56):
thought my face looked bad before, wait until you see
it now. Next update in fifteen minutes. I'm Gina Gondeck
on Koway.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Good morning, Happy Friday. I'm Ross. This is Ross on
the News with Gina. I've decided, in consultation with our
esteemed program director that we know each other well enough
that we don't need to keep using our last names.
Don't need to keep saying Ross Kominski on the news
with Gina Gondeck.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's like, who are those people? It's rotten with Gina
or Ross on the news? Is something? Sure? Right? Yeah? Sure? Okay.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
V the story in the Wall Street Journal, which I'm
kind of sort of blindsiding Gina with because she doesn't
have access to the Wall Street Journal account. But I
will fix that for her in a bit. But we
talked about this the other day, and here's the headline,
Burger King braces for the Demise of the Penny.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And what I think is kind of.

Speaker 8 (15:42):
Interesting about this particular story is Burger King specifically, but
lots of other stories they talk about Kroger Supermarkets, which
is King Supers and all us. These businesses are absolutely
freaking out about whether and how they will round price
is up or down when people want to pay with cash, and.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They seem to be going really crazy. They're trying to stockpile.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Pennies, which is odd, right, and what So here's what
I wondered about what I want to ask you about, Gina,
not so much of the business side, but as a consumer.
If you go into a place and you're paying with cash,
and sometimes that you know, if it's if it's uh

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five dollars and twenty six cents or twenty seven cents,
they round down, and if it's twenty eight cents or
twenty nine cents, they round up to five point thirty.
Will you be annoyed when you go in and you
happen to hit on one of those times where they
round up? Or will you be just fine? You're like
it even's out in the end and I don't care.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well maybe, so here's here's the thing. When you when
you started explaining that, it made me think about a
lot of the places that say, would you like to
round up to give to give some very very vague organization.
Donate to charity, give food to kids, and they never
really explain what the organization is, and they always.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Ask you on a round up.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
And if you're like, Okay, if I'm at seventy three cents,
sure i'll round up.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
If I'm at three cents, do I want a round up?
So it really depends.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
And I know it sounds very selfish of me to
not be giving to charity, but it's more the idea of, like,
if you're giving that much more each time, it starts
to add up, well, you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
The point people in mind.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Then in this case, we're only talking about rounding the
nearest nickel to the most.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
The most you'd be rounding up or down is two cents. No,
I wouldn't think anything of it.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
I don't think so, right, and they're talking about it
in here. I'll share this with you.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Holly Tenorvin was stunned to find a.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
Sign in a Decatur, Illinois burger king warning of their
penny shortage and that checks would be rounded up or
down to the nearest nickel. Her large coffee, normally two
dollars and twenty three cents, ended up costing two dollars
and twenty five cents. She let the difference slide, but
is no longer sure if she supports the pennies elimination.
She said, I was actually shocked by this. I heard

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the government saying that we're gonna get rid of them.
I just didn't think it would be so soon. And
I just I just keep thinking, like, no, everyone's gonna
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, when it's a nickel and you're it's only
a couple cents here and there.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I don't I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Sit Down restaurants aren't immune either.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
Executives at Texas Roadhouse got an earful about the pending
shortage during meetings with restaurant managers, who worried that people
hoarding their pennies or bank runs on the copper coins
could make matters worth others worse. Others wondered what would
happen to tips if people had less change to leave
on tables.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Come on, we're talking about rounding up or down two cents?
What are we? What are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I do wonder if after this story came out, if
people went rushing to banks to get rolls of pennies
being like these are gonna be worth a lot coming up.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm sure they did.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Yeah, And businesses that have a lot of cash customers
do so, especially businesses that tend to cater to people
of moderate to lower incomes or at least include many
of them, lots and lots and lots of fast food
customers paying cash right, And so the American Bankers Association
established a penny work group, like these people are really concerned.

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They're pleading with the Federal Reserve to accept pennies deposited
at local facilities again after it stopped there.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I guess the only argument you could make is like, okay, well,
if they round it up to the nearest nickel, are
we going to be rounding up to the nearest dime soon?
And we're just going to keep it changed, you know,
thirty cents, forty cents, Oh, we don't want fives, you know,
let's keep rounding it up. So I guess maybe people
are worried that if you open this box, will it continue.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I don't know the other way out of this.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
And I'm not necessarily suggesting this because it assigns all
the losses to one side. But if businesses want to
keep their customers really really happy. Businesses could just decide
to always round down, right, the most they're going to
lose is four cents on it t transaction. Now, if
you do a million transactions in a year and you
lost four cents on all of them, right, then that's

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forty thousand dollars. They told me there would be no math.
But that's one thing, you know. The other thing is
that maybe more people will pay with cards right and
not have to deal with the cash. There are some
people who just who just pay in cash. But they
quote a lady who they describe as a fashion designer
and bridal boutique owner. She said, facing an eleven dollars

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and eleven cent Burger King order where she could lose
four cents. No, you're not gonna lose four cents. They're
not going to round up from eleven.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I don't know. I was just frustrated by this story because.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
It seems like this is such an easy thing that
people will handle.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Don't you think even Dragon could handle this? He hates math.
I was told there would be no math.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Do you think the take one leave one penny little
jars are going to be gone? Ooh, like all those
little places that you just kind of chuck your change in.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
They're gonna be like, wow, you know that's that's a good,
good question. They'll be more useful than in the past.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
Right, But like you were saying before, maybe people will
just hoard them.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I think so? Would you? Are you gonna hord penny?

Speaker 12 (21:13):
Should I?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Should I get a roll just for fun?

Speaker 9 (21:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
If you can?

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yeah, if you can, what do you get if you
don't have a business. Is a bank going to let
you take out a bunch of rules? It's never going
to be worth more than what you pay for it.
Right now, right right, that's economics for you. We'll be
right back on KOA KOA News time six thirty. I'm
Gina Gondek.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Denver police shot and killed a burglary suspect early this
morning at an apartment complex on South Parker Road near
I two twenty five. When they arrived, authorities confronted the
suspect coming out of a shed armed with a knife.
After initially dropping the weapon, Police Chief Ron Thomas says
he picked it back up in advanced towards the officers.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
The two officers they're fired at the individual he went down.
They immediately began to render medical aid until an ambulance
arrived and was able to transport that person to Swedish hospital,
where their ultimore were pronounced deceased.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
The officers were not hurt.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
A Denver man will be serving the next twenty years
in prison after being convicted of killing someone with a
sword during an argument on a street corner of West
Evans Avenue. Forty year old Patrick brown fleeted guilty to
second degree murder. Families of victims of a former athletic
trainer celebrating his seventy six year sentence for sexually assaulting
two teenagers he coached.

Speaker 13 (22:32):
Aaron Carado used religion and status to lure two of
his teenage clients as Strength in Christ, Jim and Parker
into secret relationships that turned violent. His ex wife found
and first reported the messages he shared with the girls.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Oh my gosh, well, I have been waiting over three
and a half years for this.

Speaker 13 (22:50):
The sentence was far from the four year minimum his
attorneys requested, citing his multiple bond violations. The judge said
Corrado showed no accountability. Connor Steve Kowe.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
News The hemp industry bracing for change after Congress passed
the government funding bill with a surprise provision to ban
nearly all hemp derived consumer products and.

Speaker 14 (23:09):
Is a derivative of the cannabis plant that was legalized
in the twenty eighteen Farm Bill for industrial uses like rope, textiles,
and seed. However, the laws broad definition created a loophole
in federal rules on THCHHC. The new ban will outlaw
products containing more than zero point four milligrams of total
thhc per container, which industry executives say will wipe out
ninety five percent of the twenty eight billion dollars hemp

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retail market when it takes effect in a year.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm Tammy trichillo Locally, some say the hemp.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
The change in hemp rules could put hundreds of Colorado
farmers and producers out of work unless Congress adjusts the policy.
Supporters say the move closes a loophole that allowed intoxicating
products to be sold as hemp, while Governor Poll has
criticized the ban as harmful to a long standing state industry.
The restrictions will be taking effect November thirteenth of twenty
twenty six. On Wall Street, stop futures down after the

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big sell off in a month over uncertainty about future
interest rate cuts.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
In sports.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The Abs now twelve one and five after beating the
Buffalo Sabers last night six to three.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
They'll be hosting the New York Islanders Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
The Nuggets visit the Minnesota Timberwolves tomorrow night, and the
Broncos getting ready to host their biggest rival, the Kansas
City Chiefs Sunday afternoon. Our Kaway coverage of the game
begins at eight a m. With kickoff at two twenty five,
Fox thirty one pinpoint. Weather unseasonably warm again today. High
temperature right around seventy three degrees forties overnight tonight, seventies

(24:33):
again tomorrow, upper sixties by Sunday. Currently we're at forty
nine in Denver. Our next update in fifteen minutes. I'm
Gina Condek on Koway.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
That's the intrepid Chad Bauer, our in house music historian
as well, and I just wanted to have Chad in
for ninety seven seconds or some other prime number, just
to give us your thoughts on yesterday's Colorado Rocki's press
conference introducing the new Dude and just what you thought
of you and playing sound from the press conference all morning,
but I wanted.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
To get your thoughts. Yeah, Paul D. Podesta is very impressive.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
He's got a lot of experience and analytics, and he
was a GM for the Dodgers for a while, so
I think he's going to be able to, you know,
make improvement. You know, whether they're going to you know,
win the World Series in the next two years, that's
probably not going to happen, but I think he can
maybe avoid the string of one hundred lost seasons.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Chad, when he talked about his priorities, do you think
they're pretty straightforward things that you're like, Okay, yeah, he
can do that.

Speaker 11 (25:30):
Yeah, Well, he was very he wouldn't really say what
he was the plans were for on the field. He
was kind of mysterious about that. Off the field, he
wants to establish a culture. He wants to get to
know everybody in the building know what they can do
before he talks about hiring from the outside. But they
do have some depth in the outfield that they can
maybe do some trades for improve their pitching staff, and

(25:52):
I think he'll, you know, it's it takes a while
to move an organization in a different direction, but I
think He's definitely has the skills to do it. So
I think there's at least some room for optimism here.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
I sure hope that the organization starts feeling like they
can win. It's not like I'm in the locker room,
but at some point with the year after year after
year of this, it's got to be some feeling in there,
just like in the fan among the fans, like we
don't want to These Chicago cubs, you like don't do
anything for a hundred years, right, And the.

Speaker 11 (26:22):
Fact that their division is so tough makes it even
more of an uphill bell we have the Dodgers and
the Padres and the Giants that are spending hundreds of
millions of dollars every off season.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Was the optimism promising that he had, because I think
a lot of people had eye rolls of being like,
I'm really excited for this role, and everybody was like, you.

Speaker 11 (26:39):
Are, Well, that's what you expect to hear from him
on his first day on the job. I know, when
you're introducing him and everything's new and he's back in
baseball after being in football for ten years, So it's
I'm sure for him, is very exciting, wants to dig
in definitely a big challenge. And another thing we learned though,
is the owner, Dick Moffort, is going to step back
a bit and let Deep Podesta and his son do

(27:01):
most of the baseball operation side of it. And he's
big in the labor negotiations as part of the owners,
and their labor agreement is expiring soon, so he's going
to be heavy into those negotiations.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
At the moment when Dick Monford said he was going
to be stepping back, I'm pretty sure I heard like
a loud cheer from from all of Denver, from all
from all of Denver. So last quick thing, Chad, So
all in all, just based on what you learned yesterday
about the guy, you think probably a good hire you
I thrive.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So far, I think a good hire.

Speaker 11 (27:33):
But he's going to now I have to hire a
general manager, right and a manager and so those are
those are very important jobs as well.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
In trepid chadbow Er, thanks for your time, Thanks for
your insight. You bet all right. So I was talking
with a friend.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
Of mine the other day about kids going to college,
and you know, my kid who's applying to college right now,
did not apply to any Ivy League colleges. And he
doesn't have the grades to get into any of those anyway,
but if he had, I don't think i'd let him
go because of all this stuff going on in these schools.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
And I was talking with a friend of mine who
works for some.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
I don't know, big technology company, not a company you
would have heard of.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean, I don't even remember the name.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
It's some kind of business software company that normal people
wouldn't run into very often. And I made some comment
to him about, you know, the Ivy League schools, and
he said, oh, yeah, here at our company, if you've
got a degree from an Ivy League school, that's a
strike against you. And in fact, we are avoiding hiring them.

(28:30):
And he wasn't being sarcastic. He said, it's a massive
change from you know, even just ten years ago. And
he said, he said, there's three main things, and I'll
mention two of them, and then the third is in
this Wall Street Journal article I'm going to mention.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
But he mentioned three main things.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Number One, the kids coming out of these you know,
elite schools, are are extremely entitled and they come into
the workplace, you know, thinking they should be treated like
little princes and princesses, and.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
That just doesn't work.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
The other thing is they come out of these schools
heavily indoctrinated with Marxism, or even to a lesser degree,
just kind of against capitalism, and they just don't really
understand the purpose of a business generally speaking.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
So that's another thing.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
And then another thing my friend mentioned and I hadn't
thought of this. I didn't know this, but now the
Wall Street Journal has a piece about it.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It came out just a couple of days ago. Here's
the headline in the journal.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Harvard says it's handing out too many a's students are
fighting back. And what my friend said is that when
you get a graduate from an Ivy League school, the
GPA doesn't mean anything anymore, and you cannot tell if
someone is a particularly good student or not from the GPA.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
And in this Wall Street Journal piece, check this out.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
Harvard's report on its undergraduate college found that about sixty
percent of grades were as in the last school year.
Twenty years ago, that number was twenty five percent. Now
it's sixty percent. The median GPA upon graduation from Harvard
is three point eight three four is an A three

(30:17):
point eight three, up from three point two nine in
nineteen eighty five. Nineteen eighty five is a little before
I graduated from college, but not way before I graduated
from college. And I remember, as crazy as this sounds,
back when I was in college, you actually had to
work pretty hard to get in a and a lot
of people got b's and a lot of people got c's,

(30:40):
and it's a I think it's a really interesting thing.
You see these charts of percentages of kids with a's
and the median GPA at graduation, and I find it
so interesting that it's just one more thing that these
schools have done that damaged their own brand.

Speaker 15 (30:59):
Right.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
They're anti American, they're anti capitalists, they're anti Semitic, they're
anti all these things that I think are good and true.
And you're welcome to disagree with me. I'm just telling
you what I think is good and true. But I
also think a lot of business owners believe the capitalism
is good, a lot of business owners believe that America
is good. And then on a more practical basis, a

(31:20):
lot of business owners and normal people believe that your
GPA should actually say something about.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
How smart you are, how hard a worker.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
You are how well you did in school, and these
days it doesn't. So what my friend said is that
at their company, and again it's quite an elite company.
My friend is an MIT trained engineer who went to
law school and took the bar for fun. Okay, this
is how smart this guy is, right, he said. What
they're doing at his company now is they are hiring

(31:52):
the people who are at or very near the top
of their classes in the second tier of schools, and
they are avoiding the Ivy League and the top tier
of schools. I think that is very, very interesting. All Right,
We're going to do a little bit of a little
bit of words to make some obscene profit here, and
then Gina's going to tell us what's going on in

(32:13):
the world. And then I don't know, We've still got
lots of stuff to do on the show. Keep it
here on Ross on the News with.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Gina Koa News time six forty seven. The Justice Department
suing to block California from enacting its newly drawn congressional
district map. The complaint was filed in California federal court yesterday,
targeting the map, drawn to benefit Democrats and approved by voters.
The Trump administration is asking the court to ban the
use of the map because it accuses California of racial

(32:40):
gerrymandering in favor of Hispanic voters. Israel says a Moss
has returned the remains of one of the last four
hostages in Gaza. The body is that of seventy three
year old Manny Goddard, who was killed during the Moss
raid on southern Israel back in October of twenty twenty three.
Red Cross vehicles collected his body after a Moss issued
a statement saying it had located him in southern Gaza.

(33:02):
Bolder police say a suspicious package prompted an evacuation of
one of their buildings. They closed and cleared their police
department building on thirty third Street yesterday morning after the
package was spotted in the lobby. It was examined and
deemed not a threat. There was no other information about
what the package was. CEU's athletic directors stepping down. Rick
George says he'll stay on campus, but won't return in

(33:24):
the same role next academic year as he moves into
a new advisory role. He spent thirteen seasons at the
home of Colorado's Athletic Department analyst is out the best
places to go for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 12 (33:35):
Wallet Hub ranked one hundred cities across the country using
such metrics as the cost of the Thanksgiving dinner, the
average number of delayed flights, volunteer opportunities, and forecast precipitation.
The top spot went to San Antonio, Texas, followed by Atlanta,
Virginia Beach, Dallas, and Scottsdale, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm Mark Mayfield, Denver ranged forty sixth on that list.
Colorado Springs was at fifty one. Your next up eight
and fifteen minutes. I'm ginagndak On Kowa Ross.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
On the news with Gina and Dragon behind the glass.
We got a ton of stuff to do today. We
still have a lot of guests coming, including the state
Attorney General in fifteen minutes and Mayor Mike Johnston of
Denver in an hour, and Jack Corrigan talking about the
Rockies in the eight o'clock hour and Kevin Neiland from
Saturday Night Live. So there is still a ton of

(34:24):
stuff to do. Let me do a little a little
more econ nerdery with you.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Is that a word?

Speaker 8 (34:29):
It is now? It is now, It is now I'm
referring to the Wall Street Journal a lot today. The
Wall Street Journal. This guy named Mark Skousen, who I've
known about for probably twenty five or thirty years, pretty
well known, kind of free market economist, kind of dude,
has a has a piece called share the wealth, don't
redistribute it. And it seems especially appropriate today now that
we learned that that Seattle, which is already a very

(34:53):
liberal city, elected a socialist mayor yesterday. So that and
I'm not just calling her socialist, she calls herself socialist.
And so they elected a socialist who defeated the incumbent
liberal Democrat. And this woman, I'm not gonna spend a
lot of time on it, but she wants she's like,
you know, a West Coast female mom, Donnie free this,

(35:15):
free that, free buses, free everything, government owned housing, all
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
And she wants to impose.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
Very high taxes on businesses in Seattle in order to
in order to buy housing that you would give to
people for free, let people stay in there for free. Now,
of course that assumes businesses.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Can't and won't leave. And this is all part of
a big.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Left wing concept of income and wealth redistribution. And this
piece in the journal, share the wealth, don't redistribute it.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's a long piece and I'm not really going to
read very much of it to you.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
But the idea is that, and in much larger percentage
than many people on the left seem to understand, a
much larger percentage of businesses have not just four oh
one case, but their own internal stock purchase pros where
you can take some of your compensation or bonus or
in stock or stock options. And if you work at

(36:07):
a company that's doing well, you can make so much
more on that stuff. Plus the tax treatment can be
better than other stuff. But let me just share with
you a couple of things just to give you a
sense of what's possible out there in the real world
of entrepreneurship, which these leftists don't seem to understand. Bill
Gates offered his employees stock options so that by two

(36:29):
thousand and five, back when a million dollars was a
lot of money, and estimated twelve thousand rank and file
employees of Microsoft were millionaires, and Mark scows And today
estimates that more than thirty thousand Microsoft employees, from secretaries
and to janitors have become millionaires. They talk about AutoZone. Right, AutoZone,

(36:53):
same kind of story. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Some see Forbes list.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Mister Hyde, who founded AutoZone, is one of the four
hundred wealthiest people in America. His top executives are multimillionaires,
and more than four thousand lower level AutoZone employees have
become millionaires as well.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And here's the one that really jumped out at me.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
This data point is one of the most stunning things
I've ever seen. And I and we're going to talk
about Nvidia here, and I'm going to make it very clear.
In Vidia is not a company where most people will
ever be able to get a job, right, is just
one of the most elite.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
High tech companies.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
And to get a job there, you're going to have
to be a very special, very very smart, creative person.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
But listen to this dragon, you ready.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
According to a recent report, nearly eighty percent of Innvidia's
employees are already millionaires, with nearly half reporting a net
worth in excess of twenty five million dollars. I work
for the wrong company. Yeah, we're in the wrong business

(38:02):
in any case. Just keep that in mind, right.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
When you when you hear.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
People saying, hey, let's do high taxes and redistribute the money,
be creative at least, and think about other ways that
people can get rich, and that's by sharing the wealth
and creating more of it, rather than going to some
redistributive program that ends up discouraging wealth creation.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
All Right, we got a lot more news.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
For you, lots of other stuff, including the Attorney General
of Colorado in the next segment, Keep it here on Kawa.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Good Friday morning. I'm Gienna gone deck.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Well.

Speaker 16 (38:32):
I know it has been a difficult few years here.
The fan support has been remarkable.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And Paul Debotesta, the Rockies new president of baseball operations,
hopes to build on that support and turn the team's
dismal record around.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
He credits the owners for giving him free rein.

Speaker 16 (38:48):
There's not just an appetite, there's like a thirst to
build this out, you know, to make it a real
strength for the organization.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
His first goal to hire a manager.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The Rockies have had three straight seasons of one hundred
losses or more. Deepodestas most recent job was chief strategy
officer with the Cleveland Browns. A burglary suspect is dead
following an officer involved shooting in Denver, early this morning.
This happened at an apartment complex on South Parker Road
near I two twenty five, just before two am. Police
Chief Ron Thomas's officers responded to a burglary report and

(39:18):
found the suspect in a storage shed.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
They ordered that individual to put the knife down. He
initially complied, set the knife down on like a retaining wall,
and then for some unknown reason, he reacquired that weapon
and then advanced toward the officers.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Two officers fired their weapons, hitting the suspect, who was
pronounced dead at the hospital.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
The officers were not injured.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Air travel not back to normal just yet, but it's
better now that the government is back open. Another six
hundred flights are canceled around the country, more than forty
of those at DIA on Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Ahead of the opening.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Bellstock futures down this morning after ending the day yesterday
much lower. Dow futures down three fourteen, SMP down sixty seven,
NAZAC futures down three seventy one. In sports, the Broncos
putting their seven game winning streak on the line on
Sunday as they're hosting the division rival Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Denver leads the division with eight and two.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Kansas City currently in third five and four coming off
of bye week.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Here's wide receiver Courtland Sutton the sorry.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Next opponent and just has them be the Chiefs, And
we have to go into the same mindset of it
being the most the most important theme because it is
the next theme. Our KOWA coverage of Sunday's Broncos Chiefs
game starts at eight a m. Kickoff at two twenty five.
The Abs now boasting a five game winning streak after
beating the Buffalo last night six to three. They'll host
New York Sunday Night, and the Nuggets will be visiting

(40:37):
the Timberwolves tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Box thirty one pinpoint.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Weather unseasonably warm again today high temperature hovering around seventy degrees,
dipping to the forties overnight tonight. Currently it's forty nine
in Denver. Our next update in fifteen minutes. I'm ginagddek
on koa.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Here on my little laptop zoomie thing.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
We've got Attorney General of the State of Colorado, Phil Wiser,
as a Democrat, seeking the nomination to run for governor
here in Colorado. But today we're talking about law and
not politics, and I saw a press release yesterday that
I thought was interesting and interesting case about pet Smart

(41:17):
and Phil. Before I jump into sort of nuts and
bolts questions for you, just explain the issue to us.

Speaker 17 (41:24):
There's a practice that has been used in all sorts
of contexts. It's known as training repayment agreement provisions, or traps.
What happens is a employee is told at some point, oh,
we need you to get this training, or you should
get this training, and then what they're not told is
they're going to end up with a huge debt. So

(41:46):
they get the training and they're told okay, by the way,
it could be like this pet groomer for PetSmart. It
could be someone who does you know, cutting your hair.
It could be someone who does automobile repair, and then
they're told, okay, it's a fifty thousand dollars debt you
have or twenty thousand in this case is work, but
don't worry, we'll we'll forgive it after you work here
for two years, but if you leave before that time,

(42:09):
you owe the entire amount, and maybe even with interest too.
The term trap is appropriate here Ross because an employee
often can feel that I can't leave my job because
I have this huge debt that will be saddled with
and it's.

Speaker 18 (42:23):
An abusive practice.

Speaker 17 (42:25):
I pushed the law in Colorado that will prevent this
from happening. But we're still making sure that companies get
the message this is no way to treat your employees.
We're not going to allow it in Colorado. This case involves,
as this said, dogcare and employees were told get this
training and they weren't told in many cases about this

(42:46):
payment requirement. And that's basic deception. It's a problem. We
want to make sure these employees get their money back.

Speaker 8 (42:52):
Okay, So let's imagine two situations. Let's say you don't
Phil Wiser decides he doesn't like law and politics very much,
and he decides to become a dog groomer. So now
you come to my pet smart and I say, there's
two different ways this can go. Now, So I say, Phil,
we're gonna train you up and it's free, and you're
gonna know how to be a dog groomer. And then

(43:14):
you decide no, you'd rather be governor, and you quit
the dog grooming thing. And then we say you quit
too soon, and you owe us the money back, and
you say, well, you never told me that before.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
So that's one scenario.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
The other scenario is you come in and I say,
we're gonna train you up, but if you quit, then
you're gonna have to pay us back, and you get
to sign this document now, and you don't.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
You don't have to do the training.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
It's fine, you could go work somewhere else, but you're
gonna sign a thing saying that if you quit, you
got to pay us back. Clearly, that first thing is
a problem with the deception is the second.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
One legal.

Speaker 17 (43:48):
Under Carl law, and the act is called the Cut
Out of Restrictive Employment Agreements Act. There is actually a
restriction even on the one where you get what would
be called let's call it normal on the job training.
And I think the category that i'd add the third
category is you're a pet smart, you're a dog groomer,

(44:10):
and they.

Speaker 18 (44:10):
Say we'd like to groom you to be a manager.

Speaker 17 (44:12):
We're gonna help pay for your business classes, and we're
gonna invest in you getting some type of certificate or
maybe even an MBA, but we need you to.

Speaker 18 (44:21):
Stay for a little while.

Speaker 17 (44:22):
That's okay, because you're investing in something which we'll have
call it additional benefit that will be broader, and there
can be the sort of you know, two year requirement
or whatever it is. But with what you just said, Ross,
it's normal on the job training. The expectation is if
you're hired in any number of employment situations and they're

(44:43):
going to train you to do the basic job, then
they can't use it as a handcuffing you to the job.
They need to give you the freedom to seek other jobs.
And this is related to another area of ROSS that
I've worked on, which is non compete agreements.

Speaker 18 (44:58):
Even in fast food restaurants.

Speaker 17 (45:00):
Some of the fast food restaurants had said we're not
going to let you go and work for a rival.
You can't because and the theory they said is because
we taught you some things say at RB's, we don't
want you to go work at McDonald's. And that's basically BS.
It was a way to restrict employee movement. And so
the challenge, and this is what the law gets to,

(45:20):
is what's normal on the job training that companies do
and shouldn't be using as some type of restriction on
employee freedom. And what is we'll call it above and beyond.
You're investing employees and their future where it's fair to
give them a little bit of a requirement to stay.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
Okay, give me a yes or no answer on this
next thing, because Gina has a question for you as well,
So just yes or no if you can on this.
If somebody was trapped by pet Smarter or any other
company and they thought they were getting trading for free
and then they wanted to leave in pet Smart or
whoever insisted you pay us the money back, and they
did pay the money back, do they have any recourse

(45:59):
now to go reclaim that money.

Speaker 17 (46:03):
Yes, we have committed. So let's just be clear. Pet
Smart is the one we're talking about now. But if
you're at a different company and this happened to you,
please report the issue to Stop Fraud Colorado dot gov,
Stop Fraud.

Speaker 18 (46:18):
Kylau dot gov.

Speaker 17 (46:19):
And we want to look at those situations. That sort
of problem is one we know is out there. We've
had other cases that we've brought here. There may be
more cases coming. If you were a pet smart employee
who actually repaid some of.

Speaker 18 (46:32):
This money, we should know who you are. We'll be
reaching out to you, but feel free reach out to.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Us as well. Gina Attorney, General Wiser.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
While we have you, we always like to recap where
we're at with the Trump lawsuit tally of what we
see as of blade. I think last time we spoke
we were at forty lawsuits. Where do we stand now?
And two part question where do we stand now? And
how many are we at now when it comes to
just decisions or any outcomes from these lawsuits?

Speaker 17 (46:59):
Gina, we're forty three lawsuits total. Since we talked. There
may have been one, I don't remember if we talked
about Space Command. We've had to bring litigation around Snap.
We won one last week involving money being withheld from
School of Minds by Department of Energy that the School
of Minds had improperly had taken from it. We're gonna

(47:21):
work hard on getting this up on our website at
coeag dot gov. Soon I'm going to give a talk
that'll try to do a little bit of a recap.
But if you think about it, I hired three additional employees,
and we're having a lot of people work harder and longer.

Speaker 18 (47:35):
And we've brought these cases.

Speaker 17 (47:37):
It's fair to say we're probably north of a billion
dollars back in Colorado, or at least half a billion
that we wouldn't have gotten had we not stood up
for the rule of law and for what was right.
We'll continue to do that. We've got a number of
cases of the Supreme Court. The tariff case was argued recently.
We got another case involving birthright citizenship. So these cases

(47:58):
are all progressing. In some cases, the Trump Mistration has
basically acknowledged what they did was wrong, paid the money,
and those are settled.

Speaker 18 (48:05):
They are other ones that are still ongoing.

Speaker 8 (48:09):
Thank you, Phil, appreciate your time this morning to He's happy,
all right, my friend Phil Wiser.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Actually Phil, Phil and I.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
Are pretty good friends, and I think he and I
disagree on more things than I disagree with with any
other good friend. But we always love talking about it.
So it's always fun to have him on the show.
If some people collect stamps, some people snowboard for their hobbies,
Phil sus Donald Trump for his hobby, or maybe not.

Speaker 18 (48:34):
He won't like we Actually we'll come back and talk
about it.

Speaker 17 (48:37):
Because Ross you said, of the lawsuits I brought, you
thought this space Command one was the most creative.

Speaker 18 (48:44):
I actually think that theory will hold up well.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
But we'll see.

Speaker 18 (48:46):
That's what good about lawsuits courts. We'll tell you if you.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Got it right.

Speaker 8 (48:49):
Phil Wiser is Attorney General of the State of Colorado
seeking the Democratic nomination for government for governor.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Thanks for being here, Phil, talk to you soon. Thanks.
All right, Well, we'll be right back on koa AOA.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
News time seven nineteen, a former owner of a Parker
Jym will likely spend the rest of his life in
prison after he was convicted of using his position of
trust to sexually assault.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Two teens he was coaching.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Fifty one year old Aaron Croto, who was a trainer
at the Strength in Christ Jim was sentenced to at
least seventy six years after he was found guilty of
twelve charges, including six counts of sexual assault on a
child by one in a position of trust. Two teen
athletes he coached testified that Kroto sexually assaulted them multiple
times between twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two. The Denver

(49:33):
Public School Board is reprimanding one of its members. They
voted five to one yesterday to censure director John young
Quist after an investigation found that he likely acted in
a hostile and dismissive manner towards DPS staff members.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Board member Kimberly Coo was the only no vote.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Young Quist abstained, the head of Denver's Department of Housing Stability,
is leaving to take another job. Executive Director Jamie Rife
will be stepping down at the end of this month
for a position at a nonprofit organization and called Housing Connector.
Rife has led Mayor Mike Johnson's efforts to reduce homelessness
in Denver for nearly two years, and the Boulder County
Sheriff's Office is hosting a food drive this weekend. The

(50:10):
Help for the Holidays food drive will be taking place
tomorrow from noon until five pm at the Sheriff's Office
headquarters on Flattern Parkway in Boulder. Donations of nonperishable food items,
canned goods, and baby formula will be accepted. Your next
update in fifteen minutes. I'm Gina Condeck on KOA for.

Speaker 8 (50:28):
Ross on the News with Gina a Dragon behind the Glass. Gena,
any any takeaways, anything stick out for you from our
conversation with Attorney General Wiser just then.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
The pet smart thing is pretty fascinating because I would
hope that a lot of people go into a new
job feeling.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Like they know exactly what it would be to get
out of the job.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Not that you're always trying to get out of the job,
but just what happens if I do. It feels like
when you do like an apartment lease and stuff like that.
You know what it is if you break your contract
and all that stuff. But if you're a pet groomer
at pet Smart, I don't think that something that you're
really considering until you're like, wow, I found a better
role or I found a change in my job position,
and then they're like, by the way, you have to

(51:07):
pay us back for all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
It's a it's just a really.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
You know, tough thing to tough situation be in a
really dirty practice to be dealing with.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I struggle with.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
It a little bit with the question if it's if
it's disclosed right And for those just joining, We just
talked with Attorney General Phil Wiser about this settlement that
his office reached with with pet Smart that had these
contracts that they call training Repayment Agreement Provision contracts and
they the acronym is TRAPS. Unsurprising, you know, do you

(51:41):
think that was yah? I wonder about that and basically
what it says, is that they told employees, hey, we're
going to train you up on this stuff, and the
training is free. But then if someone tried to leave
before some amount of time, they said, well, actually you
have to pay us back because you didn't stay here
long enough.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
And I get that's deceptive.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
But where I struggle is what if somebody signs a
contract saying, all right, I realize you're gonna train me,
and I realize it costs you money to train me,
and therefore I realized that if I leave before some
amount of time, I'm gonna have to pay it back.
And Phil said, no, you really can't do that if
in his argument was, if it's the kind of training
you would normally expect to get just for that job. Right, So,

(52:20):
if anybody's gonna hire a dog roomer or someone to
be a dog groomer who isn't already a dog groomer,
they would need to train your right. And he differentiated
that from someone from a company that hires a person
who's already doing a job and doing an okay job,
but wants to get to the next level.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
And then the company.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
Says, tell you what we will pay for, you know,
a year of graduate school or a year of technical school,
but then you will owe us time for that kind
of like if the military pays for your college, then
you owe some years of military service. And I struggle
though with you know, well, what if PetSmart had had
disclosed it all up front, would you be.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Okay with that?

Speaker 9 (52:57):
Then?

Speaker 8 (52:58):
I would you still think that's too much of areas?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I don't know. I mean, I think if you know
going into.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It, I think obviously it's still a trap. You know,
you're stuck there and having to pay back your debts
of whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Training they gave you. But at least you know ahead
of time going into it. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And also I believe this investigation might have started around
the pandemic. That might have played a role of people
being like, I'm just happy I have a job.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Just give me a job.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I'm glad to be employed during this time, and then
people didn't realize for quite some time until they were like, Okay,
I found a better opportunity post pandemic, and now I'm stuck.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I don't know. Yeah, no, you could absolutely be right.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
And it was also interesting, you know, folks that the
Attorney General said, if you have been caught up in
one of these agreements, and especially at pet Smart, and
you paid them back some money.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
The state may be able to get that money.

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Back to you, so you get in touch with the
Attorney General's office and maybe maybe able to help you
with that.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
All Right, We're going to take a quick break.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
Here for some words and some new and then when
we come back, I want to come back to what
I started the show with, and that is some very big.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I guess you'd call it economic.

Speaker 8 (54:07):
News overnight about what the Trump administration is aiming to
do to try to lower food prices as they realize
that affordability is becoming a problem for them.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Good Friday morning, I'm Ginagndek.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Denver police are still unseene if an officer involved shooting
on South Parker Road near I two twenty five. Police
Chief Ron Thomas says a burglary suspect was killed during
a confrontation with police.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
They ordered that individual to put the knife down. He
initially complied, set the knife down on like a retaining wall,
and then for some unknown reason, he reacquired that weapon
and then advanced toward the officers.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
The suspect was taken to the hospital where he was
pronounced dead. A fifty six year old man is under arrest,
accused in a road rage shooting that left a woman
hospitalized in critical condition. The jeff Co Sheriff's Office arrested
Matthew Impeller literally on charges of attempting or Sheriff's deputies
say several witnesses led to him as a suspect, and
the search of his home confirmed their suspicions. The government

(55:08):
back open, but there's still plenty of housework to be
done as Congress is now working to prevent another shutdown.

Speaker 19 (55:13):
Government is funded until January thirtieth, and lawmakers will now
try to complete the appropriations process.

Speaker 18 (55:19):
The goal is to pass twelve individual.

Speaker 19 (55:21):
Spending bills to fund different government agencies for the fiscal
year that runs until the end of September. Three bills
have already been signed by President Trump, funding the Department
of Agriculture, the Legislative Branch, and the Department of Veterans Affairs,
meaning if a shutdown happens again, Snap and Veterans services
will not be at risk. The nine remaining bills would
need sixty votes in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
That's Fox's rein smells new federal rules tied to the
government funding bill could spell trouble for Colorado's hemp farmers.

Speaker 20 (55:49):
The new measure includes the provision banning hemp items with
more than point four milligrams of THHC per container, a
shift experts say would wipe out more than ninety five
nine percent of the current market and put Colorado hemp
farmers and producers out of work. Local attorneys who asking
Congress to adjust the policy, which begins a year from now.

(56:11):
Supporters say the move closes a loophole that allowed intoxicating
products to be sold as hemp.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Brenda Stewart Koway News.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
A regional airport under fire for changing flight patterns and
disturbing neighbors, Rocky Mountain Regional Airport hosted its third town
hall meeting last night in Broomfield to address neighbors concerns.

Speaker 10 (56:30):
They're citizens that have left our city because they cannot
take anoid. We have flights over us at six in
the morning that shake my house.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Airport administrators say it was the FAA that changed flight
patterns to minimize risk and increase safety, and developers continue
to build in the open.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Space around the airport on Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Stocks open Lower Dow Jones down three hundred and ninety
nine points, SMP down seventy nine, Nasdaq down three ninety eight.
In Sportspeak, it five wins in a row for the
Ads after they beat Buffalo last night at Ball Arena
six to three. They host the New New York Islanders
on Sunday night. The Nuggets hoped to make it seven
straight wins Tomorrow night. Bill visit the Timberwolves in Minneapolis

(57:12):
and the Broncos was the Kansas City Chiefs. Sunday afternoon
at in power Field at mile High.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Fox thirty one pinpoint. Weather.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Our unseasonably warm conditions continue. High temperature in the low
seventies down to the forties overnight tonight. We'll be a
little cooler into the sixties by Sunday. Currently we're at
forty seven in Denver. Our next update in fifteen minutes.
I'm Gina Gondek on KOA.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Stock markets moving around a lot. Just when Gina was
doing her report, the Dow was down four hundred ish
and now it's down over five hundred. NASDAK hasn't moved
as much. I just want to talk about that a
little bit, and then also some things that the Trump
Administration's doing yesterday. At the beginning of the show, I
had mentioned that the Dow was up over thirteen hundred

(57:56):
points over the previous four days of trading as the
market was kind of looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
At the end of the government shutdown. And what I
said on yesterday's show.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
Is now the market is going to start looking at
real things again, like bigger picture things. How's the economy,
how's inflation? How is the path of interest rates? And
at this point the Dow was down what seven hundred
and something points yesterday, I think, and down five hundred
and five point fifty now, let's call it. So almost

(58:29):
all of that thirteen hundred plus point gain that had
been made in the Dow over the previous four sessions
is gone, and the Nasdaq is getting hit much harder
than the Dow on a percentage basis, because that's what
happens when the market starts thinking that the that the

(58:49):
path of interest rates is going to be higher.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Than they had previously been thinking.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
And what I'm trying to word that carefully because tech
stocks tend to do worse than big industrial stocks when
the path of interest rates is higher.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Than people had been thinking.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
And that could mean interest rates going up and they
hadn't thought that. Or it could mean interest rates staying
flat when they had been anticipating interest rates going down.
And it gets very very technical, But part of the
reason that technology stocks tend to do so much worse
is that many technology stocks are really bets on earnings

(59:29):
that are way out in the future, whereas big industrial
companies are making money now. And if you're making money now,
there's less discounting based on the interest rate.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Anyway, very technical, These.

Speaker 8 (59:40):
Tech stocks tend to get slammed when the interest rate
environment isn't so good. So why are we thinking that
the interest rate environment isn't so good? There's a couple reasons.
Inflation seems kind of stubborn. A lot of people now
are believing that whereas businesses absorbed some of the cost
of of tariffs early in the trade wars, they're not

(01:00:02):
going to be able to do much more of that,
and you're going to start seeing the cost of tariffs
filter more and more and more into the price of
so many things that you buy. And I think this
is part of the reason that Republicans did so badly
in the elections a little over a week and a
half ago. Let's say affordability is a huge issue. It's
a huge political issue, and I'll get back to that.

(01:00:25):
I'll get back to that in one moment. But just
as far as the markets go, they're just trying to
sort out what's real here and what to be afraid
of and whatnot and the other thing. I mentioned this earlier,
but it's worth noting. Because of the government shut down,
it's at least somewhat likely. It's not certain yet, but
it is becoming more likely that the October Employment report

(01:00:50):
and the October Inflation or CPI report.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Will never be produced.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
Okay, will never be produced because they the government departments
that collect that data were closed, and at this point
they probably needs to start collecting the data that they
will use for the November reports, and they might not
even be able to get the data for the October reports.
It's unclear, but even if they could do, they have
time to so it may be that these reports will

(01:01:19):
never come out, and then the FED, when they're trying
to decide in their meeting next month whether to cut
interest rates or not, will be working with less data
that might make them more hesitant to cut And that's
part of the reason that in yesterday's trading, along with
the stock market getting hit pretty hard, you also had
trading in FED FED funds futures. Those are the products

(01:01:41):
you can use to kind of bet on whether the
Fed is going to cut or not. Trading in those
futures have gone over the past month and a half,
let's say, from an over ninety percent chance that the
FED will cut in December to an under fifty percent
chance that the Fed will cut in December.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Now, So that's one thing that's going going on.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
The other thing that's going on now going back to
the election and to affordability. So there's been some chatter
about perhaps President Trump going on a kind of countrywide
barnstorming tour talking about affordability, going around the country talking
about affordability, talking about what he wants to do about
it and what he's going to do about it. This

(01:02:22):
is a difficult position for President Trump. For any president,
it would be, but it's a difficult position for President
Trump because, Okay, the macro generic kind of thing. Presidents
can't do that much about affordability, right. Most things are
determined by market prices of stuff, and then inflation generally

(01:02:43):
determined by how much money is there in the economy,
and there's still too much having been injected into the
economy and the Biden administration, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
This is I've talked about this before.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Of Course Donald Trump needed to campaign on affordability because
that's what people were really really mad about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
And of course you're gonna run on that.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
Hey, this guy caused inflation, caused you to be feeling
all this pain.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
So it's one thing to say.

Speaker 8 (01:03:08):
Like I'm going to stop doing the stuff that he
was doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Was making these things so bad.

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
It's another thing to say, I'm gonna get prices down.
I'm gonna get prices down on day one. But that's
the stuff that Trump ran on, right, He ran on
I'm gonna get prices down, and they have not come down.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, they've come down on eggs.

Speaker 8 (01:03:24):
But they went up on for a very specific reason
with bird flu, when they came down for a very
specific reason less bird flu that the government had almost
nothing to do with. So the Trump administration now realizes
they have a political problem with affordability. They're thinking about
having Trump travel the country. I don't think it would
actually work out very well because I don't think he's
very good at talking about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
In a way that people believe.

Speaker 8 (01:03:47):
But even more importantly is the fact that Trump's number
one economic policy is tariffs and he deeply believes in it.
He's not just doing tariffs as some kind of political game.
He really believes in it. He's believed in him for
a long time. He's been mostly against free trade for
a long time. It is an economic mindset that I

(01:04:10):
believe is deeply flawed and has been discredited since Adam
Smith wrote The Wealth of Nations, which was published in
seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
But Trump deeply believes in it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
And the American public know that tariffs are raising prices,
so they're kind of stuck. But one thing that they
are highly focused on right now is food prices.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Food prices are causing a lot of pain.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
A lot of the talk is about beef, but coffee
is way up, bananas are way up, pineapples are way up.
Other things are way up, things that maybe you don't
buy as often. Well, I don't know how many pineapples
you buy, but vanilla beans as well, stuff like that.
And then outside of food, there are other things like
some metals and minerals and some parts for airplanes, and
some antibiotics that at least for now, are just not

(01:04:55):
made in the United States, and you might want to
mate made here, but coffee's never going to be made here,
grown here. And so the Trump administration now is putting
together a plan that we'll probably get the details up
pretty soon to reduce tariffs on a fairly wide range
of food products, especially food products.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
That are not made or grown here.

Speaker 8 (01:05:15):
And it was a very bad idea to begin with
to put tariffs on things like coffee and chocolate that
we can't make here, even if we wanted to. Avocados
as well, vanilla beans as well. So they're going to
sort this out, and they're gonna hopefully do stuff that
will reduce the price of certain foods. But it is
a double edged sword for them, as I said earlier
in the show, because while they're doing this, saying we're

(01:05:37):
going to do this to lower food prices, that is
an admission that tariffs raise prices, which is really not
something they've wanted to admit. All Right, Gina's gonna tell
us what's going on in the world, and then we're
gonna have Denver Mayor Mike Johnston.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
On the show KOA News time seven forty four.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
While the government is reopen, there's some lingering issues airports nationwide.
Yesterday we still saw over one thousand cancelations and there's
over six hundred canceled flights today, forty one of those
at DIA. Secretary of Homeland Security christyme praising TSA agents
handing out ten thousand dollars bonuses for those worked during
the shutdown.

Speaker 10 (01:06:16):
Stepped up every single day to make sure that those
individuals at our airports and at our transportation systems continued
to be safe and secure while they went about their
daily lives and limited the impact on those families that
relied so much on getting to where they needed to
be on time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
The FAA is keeping flight reductions frozen and will monitor
staffing levels as controllers start to receive their back pay.
After over one hundred days on strike, thousands of Boeing
employees are back at work after approving a new five
year contract. Members of the International Machinists and Aerospace Workers
voted yesterday to pass the latest offer. It gives union
members a pay raise, a six thousand dollars upfront bonus,

(01:06:54):
and guarantees all members will keep their jobs, even with
Boeing hiring replacement workers. I'm a Democratic Senator John Fetterman
recovering after falling near his home during a morning walk.
He was found to have had a ventricular fibrillation flare
up that was hospitalized out of an abundance of caution.
Fetterman joked about the minor injuries to his face, saying, quote,
if you thought my face looked bad before, wait until

(01:07:16):
you see it now. Our next update in fifteen minutes.
I'm Gina Gondeck on KOA. Roz Kminski on the news
with Gina Gondeck, as we're gearing up for the Chiefs
to come into town on Sunday. Our KOA coverage will
begin at eight o'clock in the morning, kick off at
two twenty five at in Powerfield at mile High. Clearly
I didn't get the memo because both Ross and Dragon
are wearing their Broncos gear and it's apparently a superstition

(01:07:40):
that you guys have, so they are supposed to win
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Well, I'm Dragon, says I have to listen to the show.
Dragon says, I have to listen to.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
The Rick and Dave broadcast, and some for you are
eight and oh when you listen to the KOA broadcast,
and oh and two when they and I didn't correct.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
And now we are asking on social media who wins
this weekend? Right now, sixty percent on X say the
Broncos but close. The next is Chiefs but close. Nobody
is saying Broncos are Chiefs easily. Those are the four
options I gave. Either Broncos easily, Chiefs easily, or close
for either. So seems like a Broncos win, but it
might be interesting.

Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
All right, we'll see on the one on other hand,
you know, good teams win close games. On the other hand,
they sure do him feel like an eight and two
team really like the game. I know Dragon's very upset
with me for being this seventeen and oh every year.

Speaker 15 (01:08:32):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
But no, we'll see. I'm going to the game this week,
you are. I'm looking forward to it. Wow, it's my
first game of the season. Who going with Kyle? We'll
go together? Wow? Yeah? And I have the Jags. Those
are the two games that I have Chiefs and Jackson. Yeah.
So you still want to do the sideline microphone thing.
I do, but I think I missed my chance. You

(01:08:54):
think you know what to do? Have you seen enough
of it and you need to be coached up a
little bit? Probably a little.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, I think I'm a little worried about just being
on the sideline with these massive guys running around.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Can I move quick if needed shire with a sideline
microphone in hand, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yes, there's only one way to find out true a
hilarious viral moment.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
If I just get completely clouded on the sidelines.

Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
And folks, just so you understand, we thought the mayror
would be calling us or we'd be calling him, and
we can't reach him, and he's not calling us, So
I'm not sure what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
What's going on with that? So won't keep trying to
keep trying. He usually at some point soon we're going
to run out of time. He picks up on the
eighth time. Yeah, he's usually a seven forty nine hit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
That's the thing too, So like our with our new
show set up, I wonder if like a couple minutes
really throws off his schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
But I did really.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Want to talk to him about the new Denver sum
At FC Soccer Stadium because there's been an interesting situation
going on with the city council delaying the vote.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I guess they should say a council.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Committee delaying the vote, because they actually kind of cited
some distrust towards the recent moves by the mayor when
it came to the Park Hill landswap, when it came
to the Flock camera extension, and so now they're kind
of pumping the brakes a little bit when it comes
to the stadium and saying, hey, I want to know
exactly these fifty million dollars that the city will be

(01:10:18):
providing to the stadium for the infrastructure improvements around this
new stadium. I want to know specifics of where it's
going to be going and what it's being used for.
So some of these city council members on this council
committee said, we need some more information before we do it,
whether or not that will delay the start of this
new stadium for this new women's soccer League team. They're
not supposed to start there for a couple of years.

(01:10:39):
They're doing their first game a match, is that what
it is? In soccer match at in Powerfield of Mile
High March twenty eighth of next year. So they already
have a venue at least to start with a big turnout.
They're hoping to make a break a record, but I'm
just curious to see if we're going to see a
little bit of stall just because they're concerned about what
the mayor has been doing as of late.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
It is a super interesting dynast.

Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
And I recall hearing in one of your newscasts the
other day, Gina about it was what like a six
to six vote in the city Council on the budget.
I guess a time means it's okay. Yeah, a time
means it gets implemented.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
So confusing because yes, if there is a time, pretty
much the vote is a vote. And I guess if
they said that, no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
It passes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
And they got a tie, which means the budget amendments
that the city Council approved and the Mayor signed off
on do go as passed. Which one of the big
ones was the Clerk and recorder asking for two point
seven million.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Dollars and they gave it to them, gave it to them,
and that was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
The big sticking point between the mayor and the clerk,
and so the mayor had rave reviews of saying I'm
glad all these budget amendments have passed but technically it
was a tied six to six votes, So I wanted
to ask a little bit more about just yea of like, okay, well,
there are some council members that aren't a fan of this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
What does that mean going forward? What these means?

Speaker 8 (01:11:59):
Also, I've never heard of a legislative structure where a
tie vote means something passes. Right in Congress, In the
state legislature, if there's a tie vote, it fails. Now,
they're not tie votes very often, at least if everybody votes,
because there's an odd number of members. But in these votes,
Sarah Parody was absent for at least some of them. Yeah,

(01:12:22):
and she's one of the most left wing members of
the city council, and I think she would have probably
voted against a bunch of these things.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
And I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Wish the mayor were here to answer these questions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So I do know that the budget had to go
into effect, I believe November twelve, So I don't know
if it was a timeline thing too, of like, well,
no matter.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
What, it's got to pass because we have it there.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
So the phones ring in, But I don't know what
we're going to you know, what we're going to do
here because we only have about two or three minutes,
and then we got Jack Cory and I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
All right, so let's do this.

Speaker 8 (01:12:58):
All right, We've got Mayor Mike Johns on with us
fashionably late, which is not fashionable here on the radio. Mike,
just for future reference, we're going to give you a
mull again this time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Thanks.

Speaker 21 (01:13:11):
Sorry about that another crisis.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
Proving Okay, I actually I hope wasn't that much of
a crisis. We only have a couple of minutes, and
I'm going to just turn it over to Gina because
I think she's got the questions that really need to
be asked in the short time that we have, So
go ahead, Gina.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, Mayor, we were just talking about the Hello, thank
you for joining us. So we were just talking about
that split six to six vote that we saw on
the one point sixty six billion dollar budget for next year,
and the amendments were approved.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I wondered if you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Can elaborate a little bit more on how they were
approved with a split vote, But then also just any
concerns you have about maybe some council members being skeptical
of the budget if six people technically voted against it.

Speaker 21 (01:13:50):
Yeah, the good news is the budget is passed. It's final,
it's balanced. We have a job as to sitting county
to make sure we balance the budget. We can't do
what the cutter government does and just debt borrow. So
we got have a balanced budget and we have accepted gosh,
more than forty amendments at this point from council. They
had about twenty five recommendations and a first letter we met.
We at eleven in the second round and another about

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ten in this third round, and so we've worked collaboratively
to get that across the finish line. Now it's done.
The council members know, as they shared that the way
the budget system works in the city is whether the
council votes for the budget or not it passes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
That's the mayoral.

Speaker 21 (01:14:24):
Budget system that we have, and so I think in
some ways it's a symbolic vote, but I think what
means functionally is everyone moves forward. Obviously, in tough economic times,
budgets are never easy, right, No one enjoys cutting budgets,
and so I don't think we took any joy and
having to make hard decisions to cut a budget anyone
than the family does. But your obligation as a leader.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Is to do that.

Speaker 21 (01:14:42):
So that's what we did. We got those decisions done,
the budget's balance, and now we're excarted to move forward
and implement it. But you know, I understand that people
thought it was difficult. It's always difficult to make it
too hard economic times in the budget.

Speaker 8 (01:14:54):
A quick follow up on that, Mike, I just as
a point of order, I've never heard of a a
legislative kind of thing where a tie vote means something passes.
So I know you said the budget itself passes no
matter what. What about those amendments. Do they pass six
to six or was it just a six to six
symbolic vote on the budget itself. But the amendments that
you're talking about were different votes, not six to six.

Speaker 21 (01:15:17):
You're exactly right. So the amendments are standalone votes. Though
those all need a majority to pass, they passed. I
chose to accept them all. I could have vetoted, I
chose not to. I chose to accept all the amendments.
So those all pass. But the way that Constitution is
written here in Denver to prevent us having what you
happen at the federal level, which is legislative body can't
reach a decision and you get a government shutdown. Is
once the amendments are passed, the budget passes with or

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without council support. So it could have been thirteen zero
against the budget, the budget still passes. That's in the constitution.
The amendments are voted on one by one and if
those are passed and not vetoted, digging on. But the
budget itself is required to go into effect as a
way to prevent what you get happening in DC, where
you get government shutdowns and people can't reach agreement. So
I think it's a very effective budget system we have
for taxpayers. But that's why the amendments get on. But

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the budget vote is symbolic. It doesn't matter. It will
pass regardless of go bye by constitutional order.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Mister Maro, I want to ask you real quick about
the future stadium for Denver sum at FC. I do
know that a council committee delayed that vote of allocating
the fifty million.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Dollars for infrastructure improvements.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Some of the council members actually cited reasonings of distrust
towards the recent flock camera contracts, the park Hill landswap.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
What's your overall thoughts of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Are you concerned that the stadium may not be completed
in time.

Speaker 21 (01:16:31):
No, we're not concerned. I think the residents are overwhelmingly
in favor of this. Our opening day at Mile High
is already going to be It looks like the largest
women's soccer sporting event in the NWSL. We have like
forty five thousand tickets already sold. It's more than twelve
thousand season ticket holders already for the stadium. We know
there's really broad based support from every twelve year old
girl in the city who wants.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
To see their team play at home. And I think there's.

Speaker 21 (01:16:53):
Council Serman has a project to ask more questions. We'll
have to get them more information. But we're very confident
this is going to move forward because the city is
thrilled about it, and so our job is to make
sure we can deliver on those projects.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
And we will get that one done.

Speaker 21 (01:17:06):
You know, that is the nature of being the executive
the city is you have to make a lot of
hard decisions day in and day out, and we have
continued to make those decisions transparent. We've shared on president
amounts of information with counsel on this budget process. We'll keep
doing those things, but we're going to keep moving forward
and run in the city. We're really grateful we have,
you know, about seventy percent of Dender voters who came

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out and backed our bond measure, and so we think
people are excited about the momentum that we have in
the direction that we're heading, and we're going to keep
pushing forward.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
Mike, one last question, I'm running late. To give me
a really quick answer on this. It seems to me
like the hedge fund that owns the Denver Post is
trying to leverage the city into forcing you to let
them buy out their lease for less rent than they
would otherwise, oh, by refusing to pay their rent. Now,
just give me a couple quick seconds on how you
see that situation.

Speaker 21 (01:17:55):
No, we expect them to pay their rent. They're a
massive hedge fund that owns two hundred buildings and two
hundred newspapers. They can pay their rent. We're gonna expect
them to pay us every done.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Mayor Mike Johnston of Denver, thanks so much for joining us. Mike,
look forward to talking to you in future weeks, hopefully
every week, and hopefully whatever crisis you were dealing with
this morning, is solved.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
We really appreciate your time, thanks for having me. Glad
to do it all right.

Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
That's Denver Mayor Mike Johnson will take quick break, a
few words Gene on the news and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
We'll talk some baseball after this as well. KOA News
Time seven fIF b eight. I'm g Nick on deck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
A Denver police officer is on lee for burglary suspect
to debt after an officer to vault shooting early this
morning at an apartment complex near South Parker in Peoria.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
It was in factor burg lso had actually called in
by the homeowner, who was off site but was able
to see what was going on from a ring camera
that they had a fix to their property. Was able
to provide information on where the subject was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Police Chief Ron Thomas has the man put down the
knife he was carrying and then picked it back up
again and lunged towards officer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
That's when one of them fired, killing him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Governor Poulos now asking the federal government for disaster relief
to help repair the damage from the widespread flooding that
tore through southwest Colorado at the beginning of October. The
request would assist the counties of Archetta Mineral, and Laplata,
which were hit the hardest during the flooding. The state
has said damage already passed thirteen million dollars and continues
to grow. Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Bobert continues to push for

(01:19:25):
the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, calling the whole
situation a distraction.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
This is not a topic that I want to spend
every single day on. I did make campaign promises to
do what I could to release the filed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
She was one of four Republicans to sign a Democratic
led petition to force a vote on the House floor
calling the release of that information.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
She met with Attorney General Pambondi this week.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
I sat at that table and asked if they would
simply meet with the victims, something that has not taken
place yet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Congresswoman Bobert and says she was not threatened to buy
the White House over her call to learn more about
the investigation. On Wall Street stocks lower Dow Jones down
four hundred and ninety seven points, NASDAK down eighty six,
SMP down thirty five. In sports, the Avs now twelve
one and five after beating the Sabers last night six

(01:20:14):
to three. They host the New York Islanders Sunday nights.
The Nuggets visit the Timberwolves tomorrow night. The Broncos are
getting ready to host their rival, the Kansas City Chiefs
Sunday afternoon. Our KOA coverage begins at eight, with kickoff
at twenty five, Fox thirty one Pinpoint. Weather unseasonably warm
again today. Our high temperature will be in the low seventies,
dipping down to the forties overnight tonight, reaching the seventies

(01:20:37):
again tomorrow upper sixties for your Sunday. Currently it's fifty
in Denver. Our next update coming up in fifteen minutes.
I'm Ginagantek on KOA, and.

Speaker 8 (01:20:46):
I thought it would be fun to have Jack on
to talk about what he learned, his reaction to the
big press conference yesterday with the Rockies introducing their new
director of operations, and some comments from Dick Montford as well.
So I'll shut up now and welcome Jack up to
his radio home.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
Hi Jack, Good morning, Ross, How are you good good?

Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
I want your gut reaction more than I want the news.

Speaker 9 (01:21:13):
My gut reaction was atmosphere and a clear sense, at
least the way I received it that the page has
been turned that Dick Montfort is stepping back from much
of the day to day stuff and Walker Montfort is

(01:21:36):
really the person who is going to be in charge
of kind of the day to day of the franchise
with Paul de Podesta as the guy running the baseball
half of it. It was refreshing really in terms of
what I felt was an atmosphere with a media group

(01:21:59):
that was ready to pounce, if you will, and came
away impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
What's deep Edessa's relationship to Moneyball.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
He was the guy, I mean basically the Jonah Hill character,
but Paul was the guy who brought the analytic approach
to Billy Bean, the GM of the A's at the time,
played by Brad Pitt in the movie For Reference for folks,

(01:22:30):
he was a guy. He was a pioneer in the
analytical side of the game along with Bill James, who
had been kind of the godfather of that approach to baseball.
And I think Paul has honed that approach through the
years to combine it with obviously a relationship, building a

(01:22:55):
model to go along with the hard numbers. I think
a lot of people feel that's that there are equal
strengths for him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Are you.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
Do you believe that the moneyball kind of mentality is
coming here in a very aggressive sort of way, or
do you think that's a you know, small to modest
facet of what his approach is going to be.

Speaker 9 (01:23:22):
Well, I think some of the things that he said
ross that that was impressive. You know, the criticism has
been for a while that the Rockies were behind in personnel,
behind in the equipment, and behind in the usage of

(01:23:42):
analytic tools in the game. And Paul's comment, after being
around for a few days, has been there are a
lot of good people here, they have most of the tools,
they have not done a good job. And he took
the they and now makes it a wee of taking

(01:24:04):
that material and using it properly. I mean, all information
can be of benefit, but if you can't get the
message across to the people you need to be successful,
it doesn't matter how many gadgets or gizmos you have
or how many smart people you have. You got to
be able to get the message across so that it's

(01:24:25):
received in the best form. And I think that's where
they're headed, and that's new territory for this team.

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
We're talking with Jack Corrigan Voice of the Rockies here
on KAWA. When when Dick Montfort said he was going
to be stepping back from baseball operations, I'm pretty sure
I heard a massive cheer, just like across all of Denver.
And I'm only being slightly sarcastic. But Montfort himself said,
and I'm quoting, I'm not as bad as anyone thinks

(01:24:55):
I am. I do care. I care about winning about
our players, and you know what, I don't know him,
but I believe him. But on the other hand, the
city and the fans, they don't see him the way
he seems to the way he describes himself.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Do you want to comment on any of that, Well, you.

Speaker 9 (01:25:18):
Know, I would say that my relationship with Dick and
my understanding with Dick and how he goes about his process. Look,
he's been a successful businessman, like most of the people
like him have been, and they get used to being involved.

(01:25:42):
That the hardest thing at times, same with coaches and
managers and sports. The hardest thing at times is to
delegate some of that authority and to allow those people
to augment, you know, how you want things to go.
And I do think he wants to win, and I

(01:26:04):
do think he cares. Maybe sometimes he cares too much
to a fault and didn't move people, whether it was
players or people in the front office in a more
timely fashion because he cared about folks. It's you know,
the final product is what fans are going to use

(01:26:28):
to determine like or dislike Ross. We all know that.
I mean, that's just the process. But he's still going
to be involved when you know, some big money decision
has to come along. But got the sense that there's
more reception in that area. They're not going to go

(01:26:49):
out and sign fifteen free agents or that kind of thing,
but there's some understanding of the money to be spent
in areas that don't necessarily show up up immediately. Scouting analytics,
more coaches on the minor league level. Those things are

(01:27:09):
areas where I think he has become more receptive to
the idea that they have to spend money in those areas,
and then it's up to Paul and Walker to spend
it wisely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Well, we'll see how it all plays out.

Speaker 8 (01:27:23):
You and I have shared modest optimism at the beginning
of each season recently, only to be disappointed.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
But this does feel like a somewhat.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Bigger change, so maybe our optimism will be well placed
this time. Jack Corrigan, his voice of the Rockies here
on KOA. Thanks for making time for us, Jack.

Speaker 9 (01:27:39):
All right, Ross, I'll give you one quick other note.
Why you're going to have to like Paul Pauldy Badesta's
wife Karen is an award winning abstract artist. So this
is a guy Paul who's living with an artist. Do
you know how to do that?

Speaker 8 (01:27:54):
I know how to do that. I know how to
do that. And Jack Corgan an artist in his own right.
Thanks for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Jack, talk to you.

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
Soon, okay, Roj all right, So all right, let's uh,
let's have Gina tell us what's going on in the world.
A lot of things happening today, Gina.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
AOA News Time eight sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Well, the government is back open, as you should be
aware of by now, but airline travel not back to
normal just yet. There's already more than six hundred cancelations today,
forty one of those affecting DIA.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
Industry leaders say it could take a week or longer
for air travel to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Get back to normal.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
While passengers are relieved the shutdown is over, some we
spoke to you our frustrated Congress allowed it to drag
on for as long as it did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
That's Fox's Garrett Teni, the former athletic trainer convicted of
sexually assaulting two teen athletes he coached, has now been
sentenced to at least seventy six years in prison. Aaron
Carado's ex wife first discovered the texts and social media
messages he exchanged with teens and then reported him to
believe I.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Am just so grateful that these girls can have some justice,
but they can move on with their lives. Hopefully it's
going to affect and forever.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Citing as multiple bond violations, the judge said Coroudo acted
selfishly and manipulated the teens, with no remorse to use.
Athletic directors stepping down. Rick George says he'll stay on campus,
but won't return in the same role next academic here
as he moves into a new advisory role. He's spent
thirteen seasons at the home of Colorado's Athletic department, and

(01:29:21):
a list is out of the best places to go
for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 12 (01:29:24):
Wallet Hub ranked one hundred cities across the country using
such metrics as the cost of the Thanksgiving dinner, the
average number of delayed flights, volunteer opportunities, and forecast precipitation.
The top spot went to San Antonio, Texas, followed by Atlanta,
Virginia Beach, Dallas, and Scottsdale, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I'm Mark Mayfield, Denver ranked forty sixth on that list,
with Colorado Springs at fifty one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Your next update in fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I'm Gina gondek on Koa Twell, It's time for the
holiday tree lighting at the Shops at Northfield. This all
begins this afternoon at four and runs until six o'clock.
You can enjoy complimentary hot coco, live carollers, and a
meet and greet with Santa.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
During the new holiday tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
The tree lighting in Cherry Creek will also be taking
place tomorrow afternoon. It will get you into the holiday spirits.

Speaker 22 (01:30:12):
It all begins with the opening of the Holiday Bazaar
at two o'clock at First in Fillmore in front of
Even Marcus. Then at five PM, enjoy live entertainment and
cheerful festivities leading up to the main event, when Santa
himself flips the switch to light the tree and officially
welcome you to the holiday season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
That's Kayway's Keenan Dixon.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
It's also beginning to look a lot like Christmas in
Castle Rock. The Outlets at Castle Rock will be holding
its annual tree lighting event and concert tomorrow afternoon at four.
Enjoy live music and appearance from Santa and fireworks. Get
ahead starts on your Christmas shopping. Kaway's Bread Stewart has
some options.

Speaker 23 (01:30:47):
The Cherokee Troil High School PTO holds its annual quaft
there tomorrow from nine till three. The Highlands Ranch Community
Association also holding a holiday gift there at the East
Ridge Rec Center tomorrow from nine to five. The Urban
Holiday Market at the Winecoup Plaza at Union Station is
open Tomorrow and Sunday, featuring a variety of one of

(01:31:07):
a kind seasonal items and holiday gifts and handmade treasures
crafted by local artisans. It's open from eleven to five
this weekend and next weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
The Pumpkin Pie five K and ten K is the
race that rewards runners and walkers with a huge slice
of pie at the end. Our lead Pumpkin Pie reporter
Chaed Bauer has the details.

Speaker 11 (01:31:26):
It's a family friendly run and walk at Denver City Park.
In addition to the pie, all finishers get a race shirt,
finishers metal and finish line expo access with vendors and food.
The run begins tomorrow morning at nine. You can register
at Coloradoerunner Events dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Backslash Pumpkin turn up the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Heat this weekend with the annual Chili, Booze and Bruise
Festival that's taking place in Rhino. Taste and sip your
way through the event as craft breweries, local distillers, award
winning chili chefs, and fiery Hot sauce masters will be
showing off and competing for your vote, all for a
good cause. Ticket helps kids and teens with cancer through
the Morgan Adams Foundation. This will be taking place at

(01:32:04):
the Arch on Walnut Street from six until nine o'clock
tomorrow night. Find tickets at Morganadamsfoundation dot org. Kevin Niland
will be bringing his Looseen the Crotch Tour to Comedy
Work South of the Landmark this weekend. There's four shows,
two today, seven thirty and nine forty five to tomorrow
at six thirty and eight forty five. Some of those
shows still have tickets at Comedyworks dot com and Kevin's

(01:32:27):
literally in the studio as we speak. We'll be chatting
with them here on KOA momentarily. You can also rock
out to Christmas a little early this year as the
Trans Siberian Orchestra will be coming to town. They're going
to be bringing their Ghost of Christmas Eve Tour two
Ball Arena tomorrow with two shows at two thirty and
at seven thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
And you can let us know what you have going
on this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
We'll continue weekend events every Friday here on KOA. Share
with us at KOA Colorado text Us at five six,
six nine zero will continue to spotlight some more weekend
events and hopefully get some ross listeners that have some
that we can add in as well.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
That would be fabulous.

Speaker 8 (01:33:02):
And speaking of Kevin Neilan, I'm gonna do this now
in the interested time instead of later. Why don't we
give away some tickets see Kevin Nilan on the Late
show tonight. I think it's nine forty five pm tonight
at Comedy Works South at the Landmark And we're just
gonna make this real easy, dragon, why don't we say
at eight twenty seven and eleven seconds at eight twenty

(01:33:23):
seven and eleven seconds texters number three and four, and
all you need to put is your name, your email address,
and anything noting you want tickets, Kevin nieland the word tickets, comedy,
anything like that eight twenty seven and eleven seconds textures
three and four at five, six, six, nine zero, your name,
your email address, and just something that's telling us you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Want you want tickets.

Speaker 8 (01:33:45):
What for Friday at nine forty five, That's the only choice.
Late show Tonight, Late show, Tonight, Comedy works South. Late
shows are the best shows, are they?

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Yes? I'm old, so I go to the early shows.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Late shows always really yeah, get warmed up in the
first show and ye're really firing it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
And second show.

Speaker 8 (01:34:03):
We'll have to ask Vin about that, what he thinks
about the early show versus the late show.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
All right, keep it right here on KOA, Kevin Neiland.
I'm join us in studio right after this KOA News
time eight thirty. I'm Gina Gondek.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Denver police shot and killed a burglary suspect early this
morning at an apartment complex south of Parker Road near
I to twenty five. When they arrived, authorities confronted the
suspect coming out of a shed with armed with a knife.
After initially dropping the weapon, Police Chief Ron Thomas says,
he picked it back up and advanced towards the officers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
The two officers there fired at the individual he went down.
They immediately began to render medical aid until an ambulance
arrived and was able to transport that person to Swedish hospital,
where there Ultimore were pronounced deceased.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
The officers were not hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
The government is reopened, but Colorado's congressional delegation says the
fight is far from over on federal Obamacare subsidies that
state official say nearly a quarter of a million Coloradoans
rely on.

Speaker 23 (01:35:04):
The Senate majority leader agreed to a December vote on
the tax credits in exchange for eight Democrats approving the
federal funding bill to reopen the government, but no such
agreement exists in the House, and Speaker Mike Johnson has
not committed to a vote on the credits. Colorado representatives
Jason Crow, Diana to Get Britney Petterson, and Joe no

(01:35:24):
Goose joined other Dems and introduced a petition to force
a House vote on extending those credits. Jeff Hurd didn't
sign it, but agrees something has to be done about
skyrocketing insurance rates. The Colorado Division of Insurance estimates some
two hundred and twenty five thousand Coloradoans could see health
insurance premiums double as a result of the lost tax credits.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Brenda Stuart Kowa News.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
On Wall Street, the Dow is down three hundred and
seventy nine points, S and P five hundred, down twenty two,
Nasdaq down fifty two. In sports, the Denver Broncos are
getting ready to take on a big rival here at
in power field at Mile High. The Kansas City Chiefs
may not be having the best here, but there's still
a powerhouse. Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph says they can't
afford to underestimate Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 15 (01:36:11):
He's been in best for a long time and he's
a winner. The plays he can make off schedule that
makes it tough, and he can obviously buy time in
the second act that's where he makes this supposed to play.
So going against Patrick, obviously, you know how you rush them,
is important.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
The Broncos are eight and two, Chiefs five and four
on the season. The Chiefs have won the AFC West
nine straight seasons. Our KOA coverage of Sunday's game begins
at eight a m. With kickoff at two twenty five.
The Avs are now twelve one and five on the
season after beating the Buffalo Sabers last night six to three.
They'll be hosting the New York Islanders Sunday night, and

(01:36:46):
the Nuggets visit the Minnesota turber World Timberwolves tomorrow night,
Fox thirty one. Pinpoint weather. Our unseasonably warm conditions continue.
High temperature today in the low seventies, dipping down into
the forties overnight tonight. Currently at fifty three in Denver.
Your next update in fifteen minutes. I'm Gina gone deck
on Koway.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Kevin Neil and back in studio.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
You're in a very low chairs taller yeah, but you
look a little bit more like Brad Williams right now.
And actually my producer's name is also Brad Williams, so
it's not this is not the same Brad Williams.

Speaker 24 (01:37:21):
These are one of these chairs that they have the
levers on it, but they don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
They all left up, they don't go down. Well, look
at the one next to you. The arm is literally
boken because where we work pick they're not going to
buy us nice chairs here.

Speaker 24 (01:37:33):
No, do you know Gina? I, well, I know her name,
our reputation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Hopefully that's good. But I think it's the first time
we met. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, nice to meet you.
Memorable time too, so far. Yeah, I'm great.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
We were having a little conversation, uh before you walked
in about late show versus early show and Gina is
a huge late show fan. Yeah, and I'm old, so
I tend to go to the early shows.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
And I was wondering, we were wondering if there's a real.

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
Difference from someone up on the stage, is there a
consistent difference between an early show and a late show.

Speaker 24 (01:38:09):
Well, it's like talking to a kid, a normal kid,
or not a normal kid, but a kid who doesn't
have add the second show as add it's it's a
lot of like got to reach out because help them focus.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Is that because they got a little bit they got
too much fluid.

Speaker 24 (01:38:28):
Yeah, and they've been working, especially on Friday night second show.
Is it can't be challenging because people have been working
all day and it's the late shows. They've had dinner,
they've had a few drinks, maybe they get a little tired,
you know, so you have to not be judgmental when
it's a second show and you see people's eyes closely.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I should have more properly introduced Kevin Nealan. We just
kind of started talking.

Speaker 8 (01:38:52):
But Kevin Nealan incredibly well known comic actor nearly.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
A decade on Saturday Night Live. Is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:39:00):
Close to a decade and all over television as well.
And I actually posted a link in my blog today
to his YouTube channel of hiking with Kevin and my
wife and I love hiking.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
We're talking about ath Eu Gino is.

Speaker 8 (01:39:13):
A huge, huge hiker as well, So tell us a
little about hiking with Kevin. Oh wait, also, let me
say Tonight and Tomorrow night playing comedy works Nouth at
the Landmark Tonight seven thirty nine five. I'm pretty sure
the seven thirty sold out, but you can still get
tickets for nine to forty five Tomorrow night six thirty
and eight forty five. I think the early show was
sold out there as well already.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
So people still like you.

Speaker 8 (01:39:37):
The Lon seats so Loosen the Crotch Show on seats yeah,
laon seats.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Yeah. My specialist called Loose in the crotch that's coming up.

Speaker 8 (01:39:45):
Uh huh, yeah, So tell me a little about hiking,
and then you will ask you whatever she wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Just got a ton of question.

Speaker 24 (01:39:51):
Well, the hiking show came about about seven years ago.
I was hiking with my friend Matt Matthew Modine from
Stranger Things in full metal jacket. We're just hiking, and
then we were both so out of breath, you know,
you can barely understand what we were saying to each other.
And I thought this'd be a funny interview kind of thing,
so I videotaped it with my phone and I posted
it on Twitter at the time, and people liked it,

(01:40:13):
so I started doing more. I called my friends that
were celebrities and then ran out of them and I
had to start sending emails to publicists to get their
clients to come and do it. And my equipment has
gotten better and better, you know. Now I'm using a
GoPro and I by a drone and I edited it myself.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Wow, I love the Jack Black video of you two
hiking together because he just keeps getting pulled aside and
they're like, can I take a picture with you?

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Really quick?

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
So the love for hiking came first, and then the
celebrities came.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Along with it. Yeah. Yeah, I lived in Los Angeles.

Speaker 24 (01:40:42):
I still live there, but I was the time living
near a lot of canyons, so I could walk from
my house to the canyons and just walk. And it's
just when I hike, it's a great time for me
to kind of think and meditate and to kind of
solve the world's problems. So I do like hiking. And
it's not strenuous we're talking about earlier. It's not like
ninety degree in clients, you know, or even a thirty

(01:41:04):
degree in client, But it's it's just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
I like doing it. And it's fun hiking with people too.

Speaker 8 (01:41:10):
When you're when you're out there and it's probably not
very crowded where you're going all the time. But when
someone comes across your path who knows you and asks
you for a picture or something or something, is it
is that any different for you psychologically than if it
were to happen on the street in LA Like, do
you really just want to be left alone when you're
out there or is it?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Is it fine?

Speaker 21 (01:41:30):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
It makes me happy. When they're fans of hiking with Kevin, Yeah, oh,
my god, Kevin, I watched. I love hiking with Kevin all.

Speaker 24 (01:41:35):
The time, you know, but it's it's enjoyable anywhere I go,
and I don't get it a ton, you know. So
I was just touring with Adam Sandler and it's like
I didn't exist, you know. I mean, somebody came into
the room, they lock eyes with him, and I could
be standing there naked.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
They wouldn't say, Kevin. That's That's what I was going
to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Because Ross gave your long list of accolades, but also
forgot to mention the number of Adam Sandler film is
that you're always been a part of and obviously you
guys were snel together and things like that. I'm a
huge Adam Sandler fan. I'm not gonna lie. I did
invite him to my wedding. He did not show up,
but I did get a postcard.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
From him, which I appreciate, which was very nice. But
I am curious of people who send those postcards out.
Don't tell me, don't tell me that it's not it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
But I am curious if he's just as down to
earth as he seems to be.

Speaker 24 (01:42:23):
Totally yeah, he's you couldn't wish success more for a
guy than him. He's yeah, he hasn't changed since SNL.
He's just he loves what he does, obviously. He's uh,
he's very loyal to his friends. You know, we just
we just did a forty city tour. I did like
half of that. And he has his buddies Alec Schnyder

(01:42:45):
and Nick Schwartz and Kevin James, you know, David Spain,
all these It's just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
You just hang out.

Speaker 24 (01:42:53):
You play basketball when we get to the city, who
play basketball, and there's the sound check and then there's
like the big meals, like at eleven thirty at night
at some you know, restaurant, and you wake up the
next morning just in time to go to the next city.
But yeah, he's he's a great guy, very down to
earth and fun, fun to hang out with.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
We're talking with Kevin Nelan. I'm sure you recognize the voice.

Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
He's playing Comedy Works South at the Landmark Tonight seven
thirty sold out already, nine to forty five. There's still
tickets for that, a few and then tomorrow night six
thirty sold out already and eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Still a few tickets, A few tickets left for that.

Speaker 8 (01:43:33):
So you thinking about the various things that you that
you do, so stand up you're just they're doing your thing.
SNL is sort of in between a scripted thing with
a stand up thing, maybe you can improve a little,
I don't know, I'm guessing, and then television like almost
fully scripted, although I'm guessing they let people like you
do you know, make up a line or two if

(01:43:53):
you need to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Is there a version that you you love.

Speaker 8 (01:43:57):
Best, like from the most free feeling to the most
let's say, scripted, What do you like?

Speaker 24 (01:44:05):
Well, you know, it's hard to pick one because you know,
I did SNL for almost a decade.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Yeah, and that was fun, but it was scripted. It
was all in Q cards. Really didn't have much flexibility there.

Speaker 24 (01:44:19):
No no, Okay, oddly you would think that there would
be improv there, Yeah, but there is unless something went wrong. Okay,
like one time Chris Parley got stuck on the Weekend
Update lettering.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
He was supposed to rise up into the air.

Speaker 24 (01:44:30):
On a cable and he swung back and I think
the cable and the harness got hooked on the lettering.
So we had to kind of improvise about that until
he got got free from that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
But yeah, that's all.

Speaker 24 (01:44:41):
That's all that as far as like doing a TV
show like Weeds for example, that's a little more loose
where you could add embellish things. Hey what if I
said this or what if I did that? Oh that's funny.

Speaker 8 (01:44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:44:53):
So but I think maybe the live thing SNL was
probably you know overall versus stand up. Well, stand up
is the best. I love it. It's really my forte.
It's what I always wanted to do and I never
stopped doing for the last all four decades.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
How'd you get into it?

Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
Uh?

Speaker 24 (01:45:13):
I paid some guy really? Yeah, you know laugh factory.
Yeah right, It's just, you know, it's like anything else.
You just go to the open mic nights, you ease in.
You have people that have influenced you, or you're trying
to emulate a little bit. When I started, people trying
to emulate Richard Pryor and Steve Martin, Woody Allen, you

(01:45:33):
know all those guys. And now it's like, you know,
there's rezillions of comics now, so it's you know, an
uncle could be influencing somebody.

Speaker 8 (01:45:41):
Do you do you remember your first joke you told
into a microphone that got a big laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Still hasn't happened. And there it is. That was it
right there? I think it was.

Speaker 24 (01:45:57):
It could have been one of these three jokes. Oh
I have Oh it's not even like relatable now. I
have a very small apartment. It's above a phone booth.
People don't know what a phone both is?

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Right? My kids definitely done? Yeah, somebody. I saw somebody
ask their their kid news on Instagram. Hey, do you
know what this means? Be kind rewind?

Speaker 8 (01:46:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Wow, I didn't know they had they had no. A
lot of people still don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Kevin Neiland is playing Tonight seven thirty and nine forty
five Tomorrow Night, six thirty and eight forty five Comedy
Works out at the Landmark Comedyworks dot Com. To go
get your tickets. It's awesome to see you again.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
You too, And I want to plug one more thing.

Speaker 24 (01:46:41):
Yeah, I have a documentary that my wife and I
are part of the executive producing team on. Its coming
out today on Apple TV. It's called Come See Me
in the Good Light at one Sundance Film Festival and
a watch of other festivals, and we're really excited about it.
In a nutshell, it's a it's a love story basically
about two poets that live actually here in Bold Her
Andrew Gibson, the poet laureate on the show he did

(01:47:05):
amazing right, and their partner, Meghan Folly, and it just
it follows their life. Uh, you know, in that period
of time, she's diagnosed with inoperable disease.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
And but it's not about that. It's so funny.

Speaker 24 (01:47:19):
There's so much humor in it, and it's so inspiring
and uplifting and it really makes you look at the
world in a different way. And I'm just really proud
of it and I'm excited. It's called come See Me
in the Good Light fantastic. I look forward to saying it. Oh,
I think you'll love it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
It's good to have you back. N thanks appreciation follow
vegetarian to appreciate it, vegetarian height the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Thing about yesterday, and most people were saying they belong
in the trash.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
So, well, what Vigie burger are you going with now
these days?

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
I do like the impossible burger better than beyond. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I like pretty good nowadays.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
And I heard you not that healthy either, as you
more than one Yep, that is true. Anything you put
your health in your mouth is not healthy. Come on,
let's face it. Thanks Covin, all Right.

Speaker 8 (01:48:08):
Comedyworks dot com, and get tickets to see Kevin Nilan.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
We'll be right back on KOA.

Speaker 8 (01:48:13):
Hey, folks, if you're listening on the podcast right now,
that's the end of today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget.

Speaker 8 (01:48:20):
You can catch us every day on the podcast as
you are right now, on your smart speaker, on your
iHeartRadio app, even on the computer at KOA, Colorado, and
the good old fashioned way on your radio.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
Thanks so much for listening to the show.

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