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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sometimes I feel like big Head Todd and the monsters
are singing about Denver Public schools. I don't know what
it is. Jimmy Sangenberger back with you, filling in for
ros Kaminski today on KOA as well as tomorrow. One
of the big issues that I have written extensively about
(00:22):
in my columns for the Denver Gazette that come out
Tuesdays and Fridays, that I have talked about on the
radio over the years, spoken in various capacities, is the failures,
repeated failures of Denver Public schools, from everything to academics,
to school safety, to the school board acting like adults,
(00:46):
which all too often we have not seen Denver school
Board act like adults, nor have we seen the administration,
particularly Superintendent Alex Morrero, act in a way that is
appropriate for the office of the superintendent leading Colorado's longest
largest school district in terms of ensuring academic outcomes, in
(01:11):
terms of insuring student safety, you will recall in March
of twenty twenty three last year, there was a shooting
inside East High School in Denver Public Schools. A student
had shot two deans, who thankfully survived, although tragically the
student took his own life later that day. And this
(01:36):
happened in the course of a routine pat down, weapons
pat down that happened in the district at a number
of schools, and continues to happen in the district in
number of schools. And this was being conducted by these
two deans, And it was a tragedy that woke up
(01:57):
so many parents in the district. But two days after
the student shot two deans inside East High School, my
guest in studio, Kurt Dennis, had enough. Then, the principal
of mccauliffe International School, he went ahead and blew the
whistle publicly exposing DPS's refusal to act on another chilling warning.
(02:22):
In a March twenty twenty three interview with nine News,
he revealed that he'd repeatedly urged Denver Public schools to
remove a student who'd been charged with attempted murder, asking
them to expel or transfer the student to online learning.
In fact, a Denver Police youth violence coordinator attended a
district meeting and warned that under no circumstance should the
(02:44):
student be in school with others. Dennis, though had pleased
that fell on tone deaf Ears and Kurt Dennis joins
me in studio. Now, Kurt, welcome to the show. Is
good to have you. Thank you, Jimmy, thank you for
taking some time today. I really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Have a lawsuit that is now proceeding against Denver Public Schools.
We'll get to that in a moment. That's a big
reason why I'm having you in studio today. But I
want to ask you to talk about the situation and
the lead up to and ultimately your decision to go
public about something you saw that was very wrong in
(03:22):
having a student who had been charged with attempted murder
stay in classrooms with fellow students. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So, we had been notified by the Denver County's District
Attorney's office that one of our students had been charged
with multiple felonies and these were I believe eight or
nine in total, and these felonies were related to weapons
offenses and most significantly, an attempted murder charge. And when
(03:54):
we were notified of this, we immediately went to the
school district and we requested and expulsion hearing because we
didn't feel as appropriate to have the student facing attempted
murder charges to be attending classes in person at our school,
and so we requested that expulsion hearing, and our request
was denied. We were told that the student was to
(04:17):
return to learning as soon as possible and that they
were to be placed on a safety plan. And the
safety plan is something that's common in them for public
schools where when a student has made a threat or
has been charged with some type of crime that would
be of concern for student safety, that the school leadership,
along with mental health team and security would put together
(04:40):
a plan for how to educate that student safely at
the school in person. And we had already had a
plan in place for this student due to a notification
of charge for a crime several months prior, and we
were told to create a new plan. And so the
(05:02):
plans are tailored to the individual students' needs and the
school's needs, but they're problematic. There's only so much a
school can do to make sure that everyone's safe, and
typically what a plan would look like is that when
a student arrives to school, they are to checking immediately
with the nearest adult and they're escorted to the office
(05:23):
where school staff members would conduct a pat down in
a search of the students belonging to make sure that
they're not possession of a weapon. In addition to that,
then in the most significant cases, the student, once they're cleared,
is then escorted by an adult staff member to their
(05:43):
classes and they are supervised as they move throughout the
building during the school day at all times. The plans
are problematic and that they're really difficult to enforce. You know,
in our Partico situation, we had a staff of around
one hundred with sixteen hundred students, and so having to
(06:03):
dedicate one staff member to one student during the school
day is challenging. In a big school, it's easy for
students to get lost, you know, whether intentionally or accidentally,
but to to not be supervised at all times, and
so we weren't comfortable with our ability to implement the
plan in a way that ensured that that student was
(06:26):
safe but also all the other students and staff and
the school were safe as well. So we expressed our
concerns at multiple levels. When we were denied the request
for expulsion, we then asked that the district placed the
student in an online setting so that the student could
continue to access their education, which is their right, but
in a manner that's safe for them and safe for
(06:47):
everyone else at the school. Our request to transfer to
student to an online school is tonight as well. So
this took place over a couple of months period, you know,
multiple meetings with districts.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And occasionally even police.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Police attending, you know, sharing information with us, and you know,
submitting their opinions and input as well. So you know,
after a lot of deliberation and frustration, you know, I
collected evidence and basically held onto it, and I told myself,
you know, if something happens where somebody gets hurt because
of this policy or the district stands on these issues,
(07:24):
that I'm going to come forward because in my mind,
I think parents have a right to know that if
that their child is attending school with an individual who
has demonstrated the ability to secure a weapon and a
willingness to use that weapon against another human being. And
so when the incident at East happened, I'd had enough.
(07:46):
I gathered the evidence that I had accrued over the
previous few months, and I took it the nine News
and that's what I came forward.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
To be clear. One thing that the synergy here is
the East High School shooter was on probation for weapons
violations and had previously been expelled from another district. DPS
though kept him in school until the tragedy struck. And
so it would seem that that provided that impetus. Okay,
I can't keep quiet anymore because this is something that's
(08:15):
not going anywhere. You're pleased, correct, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So, I mean they're basically putting school leaders in an
impossible situation, right. You're you're being asked to ensure that
a student who has a history of violence is safe
and that their classmates and staff are safe, which is
a tall task, and at the same time, you're you're
asking them to not share any of this information with anyone.
(08:43):
And so, you know, in my situation, had the student
that we were working with hurt somebody, that would that
would be on me, right, and so I couldn't live
with myself if that were to happen. And the alternative
was to come forward with the hopes of provoking a discourse,
(09:04):
you know, between the community and the district around this
policy and ideally some reflection and introspection on the part
of the school board and the district leadership around this
policy and the fact that it should be changed.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Kurt Dennis joining us here in studio now, former principal
at mccauliffe International School, which is what grade levels by
the way, middle school, six seven eight middle school. So
blowing the whistle as you did ended up costing you
your job. Talk to us about that and and what
that investigation entailed and how it came about that you
(09:40):
were fired from your position as the principal.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sure so so as I said, I mean, my intention
in coming forward was to hopefully bring about change and
safer schools for our kids. The response that I got
from the school board and district leadership was disappointing, and
that rather than focusing on the policy and student safety,
they chose to focus on me, and they terminated me
(10:07):
in June end of June in twenty twenty three and
did a lot of things to you know, disparage my character,
h to call on the question my integrity, and you know,
it's significant cost to myself and my family in terms
of both social emotional impact but also in terms of
(10:28):
economic impact as well. And so you know, and if
it's even more frustrating, I think is just the fact
that I don't I'm not certain anything has changed, honestly, Jimmy,
I don't know if if DPS has taken any measures
to ensure that students who are being charged with violent
crimes are being educated in a way that is safe
(10:48):
for that student and for kids in their schools.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Let's emphasize this point, and I've made it many times.
You're making it here, Kurt Dennis. What you are pushing
for with so many parents in DPS, IF pushed for
a lot of growing numbers of people have advocated for,
but the district hasn't seemed to do it. Is just
an alternative pathway ensure that a kid gets the education
(11:11):
that they deserve, that they are supposed to get, but
do it in a way that is safe for them
and others. It's a balancing act exactly. Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And so just to be clear, I completely agree that
every student is entitled to an education. Yeah, right, but
it's not a one size fits all education. There's multiple
ways to educate children in Denver Public schools. There were
alternative options for this student, one being homeschooling. DPS has
a homeschool program where an educator goes to the child's home,
usually because the student is sick, and educates that student
(11:46):
in person. At home. There's online school, which we learned
a lot about during the pandemic and got fairly good at.
And DPS has an online school that could educate kids
as well. And so then and then they do have
programs for students who are adjudicated to youth. And so
I don't know why those options aren't being considered for
(12:07):
students in these situations. I think that if you look
at other districts in the state of Colorado, I think
that's the response that they implement. I'm not sure why
Denver Public Schools is different.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So you had blown the whistle, you ended up being
fired in the school board ratified that decision in a
vote to fire you from that position. You have a
lawsuit that is moving forward just as of last week
court ruling ay or within the last couple of weeks, Yes,
this case can move forward. What are the what's the
(12:39):
crux of the lawsuit that you've brought against DPS.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes, So primarily we filed for claims, first being that
my First Amendment rights were violated when I spoke out,
and how the district responded that there was retaliation, that
my Fourteenth Amendment rights were due process rights were violated,
as well, and finally that I was defamed. So those
(13:02):
are the four major claims that we filed in our
lawsuit on September fifth of twenty twenty three, and fortunately
the judge agreed that we had standing our basis for
these claims and we're moving forward now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
This retaliation piece is very important because fear of retaliation
will silence educators, silence administrators. I have talked with anonymous educators, teachers,
staff alike who have said, you know what, I don't
want to be You can quote me on these things,
but I don't want to be named because I fear
(13:35):
that sort of retaliation and that culture to me of
intimidation when you have these kinds of reckless disciplinary policies
and we're hardly scratching the surface. Here is a dramatic
problem that extends that we had here on KOA a
few months back, a mother who who's suing DPS after
(13:56):
having been charged with a crime because of something that
she was accused of at a school board meeting. This
is the case of Kristen Fry. Absolutely ridiculous, but another
instance of retaliation. We can't have that in our public schools,
especially when we're talking about safety. In my view, No,
I agree completely.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, if you want schools to operate in as
safe as manner as possible, you have to have full
transparency and you have to have school leaders that are
able to speak up and speak out when they have
concerns and not be afraid of retaliation or losing their
jobs or being punished because their opinion or their perspective
differs from that of the school board or the superintendent.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
What is the response that you felt from the public,
because to me, we had the killing of a seventeen
year old student named Luis Garcia. There's a lawsuit against
DPS in that regard as well in February of twenty
twenty three outside of East High School. Then we had
the shooting at East. We had the concern that you
brought up in mccauliff or the shooting in East, i
(14:59):
should say, and then the issue there So after that
I saw a big turn from parents who got active.
What kind of response have you seen both to your
case and to what's been going on in DPS written large?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I mean the response from community was incredible. You
know that parents joined the community groups, they participated in protests,
went to community meetings, signed petitions. I think we had
over six thousand signatures by the end, and you know,
regarding their concerns, and so I think that, you know,
(15:31):
the response from community is overwhelming. I think that what's
a little overlooked is the fact that, you know, there
was a board election shortly after that, and in the
school board members who were up for reelection were not
re elected. And so I think that more than anything,
and it wasn't even close. So I think that more
than anything, people spoke at the ballot box as well
(15:52):
about how they felt about the decisions and the behaviors
of the school board, and that was quite apparent.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I got about thirty forty five seconds for you here,
Kurt Dennis, as we wrap up. Is there anything you
want to add or share with folks today.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No. I mean, I'm grateful for the opportunity, Jimmy to
share my story. And you know, we've had to be
quiet for a year and a half now, and as
David Laying, my attorney, says, kind of play defense. But
now we've been given the green light by a federal
judge that we can start play offense. And so I'm
looking forward to, you know, seeking justice, not just for myself,
(16:28):
but for my family and for my community.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This will entail now in the discovery process, things like depositions,
exchange of documents, and so forth.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So we will watch this case with great interest. In
my column in the Denver Gazette tomorrow is also on
this case, so be sure to check that out. Kurt Dennis,
best of luck to you. Thanks for joining us today
and for speaking out. Appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Thank you, Jimmy, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well. We are wrapping up the show today. Tomorrow a
very special program as I feel in one last time
for the year of twenty twenty four, with twenty twenty
five two days away, can you believe it? Among the
program guests, the special guests we have tomorrow, I will
(17:15):
be joined by Biff Gore, the Ambassador of Soul. He's
a pastor, father of seven, he's a military veteran and
got very far on season six of The Voice. We're
gonna have a great time with Biff tomorrow. I want
to go out sharing a tune that we had done
live on the radio last year. This is one of
(17:36):
Biff's original tunes. And then coming up next Deborah Flora
with her special guest Riley Gains as Deborah fills in
for Mandy Connell. We'll see it tomorrow. Have a great day,
enjoy this peppy tune, and may God bless America.
Sometimes I feel like big Head Todd and the monsters
are singing about Denver Public schools. I don't know what
it is. Jimmy Sangenberger back with you, filling in for
ros Kaminski today on KOA as well as tomorrow. One
of the big issues that I have written extensively about
(00:22):
in my columns for the Denver Gazette that come out
Tuesdays and Fridays, that I have talked about on the
radio over the years, spoken in various capacities, is the failures,
repeated failures of Denver Public schools, from everything to academics,
to school safety, to the school board acting like adults,
(00:46):
which all too often we have not seen Denver school
Board act like adults, nor have we seen the administration,
particularly Superintendent Alex Morrero, act in a way that is
appropriate for the office of the superintendent leading Colorado's longest
largest school district in terms of ensuring academic outcomes, in
(01:11):
terms of insuring student safety, you will recall in March
of twenty twenty three last year, there was a shooting
inside East High School in Denver Public Schools. A student
had shot two deans, who thankfully survived, although tragically the
student took his own life later that day. And this
(01:36):
happened in the course of a routine pat down, weapons
pat down that happened in the district at a number
of schools, and continues to happen in the district in
number of schools. And this was being conducted by these
two deans, And it was a tragedy that woke up
(01:57):
so many parents in the district. But two days after
the student shot two deans inside East High School, my
guest in studio, Kurt Dennis, had enough. Then, the principal
of mccauliffe International School, he went ahead and blew the
whistle publicly exposing DPS's refusal to act on another chilling warning.
(02:22):
In a March twenty twenty three interview with nine News,
he revealed that he'd repeatedly urged Denver Public schools to
remove a student who'd been charged with attempted murder, asking
them to expel or transfer the student to online learning.
In fact, a Denver Police youth violence coordinator attended a
district meeting and warned that under no circumstance should the
(02:44):
student be in school with others. Dennis, though had pleased
that fell on tone deaf Ears and Kurt Dennis joins
me in studio. Now, Kurt, welcome to the show. Is
good to have you. Thank you, Jimmy, thank you for
taking some time today. I really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Have a lawsuit that is now proceeding against Denver Public Schools.
We'll get to that in a moment. That's a big
reason why I'm having you in studio today. But I
want to ask you to talk about the situation and
the lead up to and ultimately your decision to go
public about something you saw that was very wrong in
(03:22):
having a student who had been charged with attempted murder
stay in classrooms with fellow students. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So, we had been notified by the Denver County's District
Attorney's office that one of our students had been charged
with multiple felonies and these were I believe eight or
nine in total, and these felonies were related to weapons
offenses and most significantly, an attempted murder charge. And when
(03:54):
we were notified of this, we immediately went to the
school district and we requested and expulsion hearing because we
didn't feel as appropriate to have the student facing attempted
murder charges to be attending classes in person at our school,
and so we requested that expulsion hearing, and our request
was denied. We were told that the student was to
(04:17):
return to learning as soon as possible and that they
were to be placed on a safety plan. And the
safety plan is something that's common in them for public
schools where when a student has made a threat or
has been charged with some type of crime that would
be of concern for student safety, that the school leadership,
along with mental health team and security would put together
(04:40):
a plan for how to educate that student safely at
the school in person. And we had already had a
plan in place for this student due to a notification
of charge for a crime several months prior, and we
were told to create a new plan. And so the
(05:02):
plans are tailored to the individual students' needs and the
school's needs, but they're problematic. There's only so much a
school can do to make sure that everyone's safe, and
typically what a plan would look like is that when
a student arrives to school, they are to checking immediately
with the nearest adult and they're escorted to the office
(05:23):
where school staff members would conduct a pat down in
a search of the students belonging to make sure that
they're not possession of a weapon. In addition to that,
then in the most significant cases, the student, once they're cleared,
is then escorted by an adult staff member to their
(05:43):
classes and they are supervised as they move throughout the
building during the school day at all times. The plans
are problematic and that they're really difficult to enforce. You know,
in our Partico situation, we had a staff of around
one hundred with sixteen hundred students, and so having to
(06:03):
dedicate one staff member to one student during the school
day is challenging. In a big school, it's easy for
students to get lost, you know, whether intentionally or accidentally,
but to to not be supervised at all times, and
so we weren't comfortable with our ability to implement the
plan in a way that ensured that that student was
(06:26):
safe but also all the other students and staff and
the school were safe as well. So we expressed our
concerns at multiple levels. When we were denied the request
for expulsion, we then asked that the district placed the
student in an online setting so that the student could
continue to access their education, which is their right, but
in a manner that's safe for them and safe for
(06:47):
everyone else at the school. Our request to transfer to
student to an online school is tonight as well. So
this took place over a couple of months period, you know,
multiple meetings with districts.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And occasionally even police.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Police attending, you know, sharing information with us, and you know,
submitting their opinions and input as well. So you know,
after a lot of deliberation and frustration, you know, I
collected evidence and basically held onto it, and I told myself,
you know, if something happens where somebody gets hurt because
of this policy or the district stands on these issues,
(07:24):
that I'm going to come forward because in my mind,
I think parents have a right to know that if
that their child is attending school with an individual who
has demonstrated the ability to secure a weapon and a
willingness to use that weapon against another human being. And
so when the incident at East happened, I'd had enough.
(07:46):
I gathered the evidence that I had accrued over the
previous few months, and I took it the nine News
and that's what I came forward.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
To be clear. One thing that the synergy here is
the East High School shooter was on probation for weapons
violations and had previously been expelled from another district. DPS
though kept him in school until the tragedy struck. And
so it would seem that that provided that impetus. Okay,
I can't keep quiet anymore because this is something that's
(08:15):
not going anywhere. You're pleased, correct, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So, I mean they're basically putting school leaders in an
impossible situation, right. You're you're being asked to ensure that
a student who has a history of violence is safe
and that their classmates and staff are safe, which is
a tall task, and at the same time, you're you're
asking them to not share any of this information with anyone.
(08:43):
And so, you know, in my situation, had the student
that we were working with hurt somebody, that would that
would be on me, right, and so I couldn't live
with myself if that were to happen. And the alternative
was to come forward with the hopes of provoking a discourse,
(09:04):
you know, between the community and the district around this
policy and ideally some reflection and introspection on the part
of the school board and the district leadership around this
policy and the fact that it should be changed.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Kurt Dennis joining us here in studio now, former principal
at mccauliffe International School, which is what grade levels by
the way, middle school, six seven eight middle school. So
blowing the whistle as you did ended up costing you
your job. Talk to us about that and and what
that investigation entailed and how it came about that you
(09:40):
were fired from your position as the principal.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sure so so as I said, I mean, my intention
in coming forward was to hopefully bring about change and
safer schools for our kids. The response that I got
from the school board and district leadership was disappointing, and
that rather than focusing on the policy and student safety,
they chose to focus on me, and they terminated me
(10:07):
in June end of June in twenty twenty three and
did a lot of things to you know, disparage my character,
h to call on the question my integrity, and you know,
it's significant cost to myself and my family in terms
of both social emotional impact but also in terms of
(10:28):
economic impact as well. And so you know, and if
it's even more frustrating, I think is just the fact
that I don't I'm not certain anything has changed, honestly, Jimmy,
I don't know if if DPS has taken any measures
to ensure that students who are being charged with violent
crimes are being educated in a way that is safe
(10:48):
for that student and for kids in their schools.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Let's emphasize this point, and I've made it many times.
You're making it here, Kurt Dennis. What you are pushing
for with so many parents in DPS, IF pushed for
a lot of growing numbers of people have advocated for,
but the district hasn't seemed to do it. Is just
an alternative pathway ensure that a kid gets the education
(11:11):
that they deserve, that they are supposed to get, but
do it in a way that is safe for them
and others. It's a balancing act exactly. Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And so just to be clear, I completely agree that
every student is entitled to an education. Yeah, right, but
it's not a one size fits all education. There's multiple
ways to educate children in Denver Public schools. There were
alternative options for this student, one being homeschooling. DPS has
a homeschool program where an educator goes to the child's home,
usually because the student is sick, and educates that student
(11:46):
in person. At home. There's online school, which we learned
a lot about during the pandemic and got fairly good at.
And DPS has an online school that could educate kids
as well. And so then and then they do have
programs for students who are adjudicated to youth. And so
I don't know why those options aren't being considered for
(12:07):
students in these situations. I think that if you look
at other districts in the state of Colorado, I think
that's the response that they implement. I'm not sure why
Denver Public Schools is different.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So you had blown the whistle, you ended up being
fired in the school board ratified that decision in a
vote to fire you from that position. You have a
lawsuit that is moving forward just as of last week
court ruling ay or within the last couple of weeks, Yes,
this case can move forward. What are the what's the
(12:39):
crux of the lawsuit that you've brought against DPS.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes, So primarily we filed for claims, first being that
my First Amendment rights were violated when I spoke out,
and how the district responded that there was retaliation, that
my Fourteenth Amendment rights were due process rights were violated,
as well, and finally that I was defamed. So those
(13:02):
are the four major claims that we filed in our
lawsuit on September fifth of twenty twenty three, and fortunately
the judge agreed that we had standing our basis for
these claims and we're moving forward now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
This retaliation piece is very important because fear of retaliation
will silence educators, silence administrators. I have talked with anonymous educators, teachers,
staff alike who have said, you know what, I don't
want to be You can quote me on these things,
but I don't want to be named because I fear
(13:35):
that sort of retaliation and that culture to me of
intimidation when you have these kinds of reckless disciplinary policies
and we're hardly scratching the surface. Here is a dramatic
problem that extends that we had here on KOA a
few months back, a mother who who's suing DPS after
(13:56):
having been charged with a crime because of something that
she was accused of at a school board meeting. This
is the case of Kristen Fry. Absolutely ridiculous, but another
instance of retaliation. We can't have that in our public schools,
especially when we're talking about safety. In my view, No,
I agree completely.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, if you want schools to operate in as
safe as manner as possible, you have to have full
transparency and you have to have school leaders that are
able to speak up and speak out when they have
concerns and not be afraid of retaliation or losing their
jobs or being punished because their opinion or their perspective
differs from that of the school board or the superintendent.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
What is the response that you felt from the public,
because to me, we had the killing of a seventeen
year old student named Luis Garcia. There's a lawsuit against
DPS in that regard as well in February of twenty
twenty three outside of East High School. Then we had
the shooting at East. We had the concern that you
brought up in mccauliff or the shooting in East, i
(14:59):
should say, and then the issue there So after that
I saw a big turn from parents who got active.
What kind of response have you seen both to your
case and to what's been going on in DPS written large?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I mean the response from community was incredible. You
know that parents joined the community groups, they participated in protests,
went to community meetings, signed petitions. I think we had
over six thousand signatures by the end, and you know,
regarding their concerns, and so I think that, you know,
(15:31):
the response from community is overwhelming. I think that what's
a little overlooked is the fact that, you know, there
was a board election shortly after that, and in the
school board members who were up for reelection were not
re elected. And so I think that more than anything,
and it wasn't even close. So I think that more
than anything, people spoke at the ballot box as well
(15:52):
about how they felt about the decisions and the behaviors
of the school board, and that was quite apparent.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I got about thirty forty five seconds for you here,
Kurt Dennis, as we wrap up. Is there anything you
want to add or share with folks today.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No. I mean, I'm grateful for the opportunity, Jimmy to
share my story. And you know, we've had to be
quiet for a year and a half now, and as
David Laying, my attorney, says, kind of play defense. But
now we've been given the green light by a federal
judge that we can start play offense. And so I'm
looking forward to, you know, seeking justice, not just for myself,
(16:28):
but for my family and for my community.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This will entail now in the discovery process, things like depositions,
exchange of documents, and so forth.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So we will watch this case with great interest. In
my column in the Denver Gazette tomorrow is also on
this case, so be sure to check that out. Kurt Dennis,
best of luck to you. Thanks for joining us today
and for speaking out. Appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Thank you, Jimmy, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well. We are wrapping up the show today. Tomorrow a
very special program as I feel in one last time
for the year of twenty twenty four, with twenty twenty
five two days away, can you believe it? Among the
program guests, the special guests we have tomorrow, I will
(17:15):
be joined by Biff Gore, the Ambassador of Soul. He's
a pastor, father of seven, he's a military veteran and
got very far on season six of The Voice. We're
gonna have a great time with Biff tomorrow. I want
to go out sharing a tune that we had done
live on the radio last year. This is one of
(17:36):
Biff's original tunes. And then coming up next Deborah Flora
with her special guest Riley Gains as Deborah fills in
for Mandy Connell. We'll see it tomorrow. Have a great day,
enjoy this peppy tune, and may God bless America.
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