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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Appreciate your company, thanks for spending some time with me.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Is a rare opportunity for listeners right now to listen
to a conversation between two guys who represent, Well, we're
not here officially to represent, but we happen to represent
the two colleges that just came in dead last in
the rankings for college support of free speech. I've went
(00:26):
to Columbia, which had the dubious distinction of coming in second,
and my next guest, Bill O'Reilly harvard Man, has the
dubious distinction of going to the school that came in first.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Although both of our schools.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Were better than they are now, still they weren't great
even back then. Billy, it is so good to talk
to you again. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Are you ross good? Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And congratulations on the new book Confronting the Presidents.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, it's number three this morning on Amazon. So we're
very pleased with that, and you will like it in
particular because fact based all forty five guys whether they
hurt or helped the nations. So we're real pleased with
the way it got off. And this is an example
(01:12):
of freedom of expression right. Indeed, what happened at Harvard, Columbia, Brown,
University of Pennsylvania, on and on and on and on,
and even other smaller colleges like the University of Denver.
What happens is that the leadership is cowardly and they
(01:36):
allow the radical students to shut down opposing points of view.
So when I was at Harvard, at the Kennedy School,
we had a bunch of opposing points of view in
every class because there were military people there doing master's degrees.
I had a long journals already under my belt. I
(01:58):
had no problem. Then the classes were very well structure
through everybody's opinion was hurt. But then that stopped and
the fascists moved in. And you know, when you have
a president of a university, so it's much like the
president of a country. They said that the toll and
when RADCA left, teachers think that they can give bad
(02:21):
grades to people who disagree with them students. I mean,
then you have a hanarchy. So today that's what we're
looking at. It's a shame. I learned a lot at Harvard.
I'm sure you learned a lot of Columbia, And now
I don't know if I would send my son there.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I wouldn't send my kids.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I wouldn't send my kids to any Ivy League school
at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And I'm an education snob.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Both my parents went to Ivy League schools.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I only applied to Ivy League schools and I wouldn't
send my kid to one.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And let me ask.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Europe's far than I have.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I have a Boston University asters in an undergrad in
history from Maris College, and you know I went to
Harvard for the masters. But I am very distressed. Yeah,
by the uh, what's happening in this country? Not only
in the university system where they don't even teach history anymore.
(03:19):
I mean that's why I looked like infurning the president
so important. You're not gonna learn this school they I
gotta tell you the truth about all forty five men,
because they're looking at it through an ideological prism. We
don't do that, we're fact these people.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So why the switch?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And maybe it's just I had done enough already from
the Killing series to confronting and I assume there will
be confronting somebody else's book coming from you in Martin
Dugard after this one.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Why that switch?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, because of the presidential election of twenty four. So
I knew this is gonna be one of those supporting
lessons in history. So I wanted to set up the
voter by saying, this is what has happened in the past.
Let me give you a very specific example. The Kamala
Harris campaign is being running exactly exactly like the campaign
(04:17):
of nineteen quenty Warren Harding member old Warren. If you
go out in the streets in Denver and go, hey,
how about that Warren Harding and people go, yeah, you're
gonna heed a rapper? Yeah, I think I heard him.
We're isn't he on survivor? One of the worst presidents ever?
(04:43):
Wouldn't campaign, wouldn't answer any questions in the press. State
is marrying Ohio House waved to you from the porch
and wanted a landslide because people were fed up with
Woodrow Wilson eight years of the Democrats. They would have
voted for Chimpanzee and Warren is it jim And he
got in there and he was awful. And so I
(05:05):
wanted to write a book that says, look, if you
vote for somebody and you don't know anything about that person, she,
in this case won't tell you anything that there's a
reason why she won't. So the book was written to
(05:25):
instruct American voters. This is what has happened. And these
are the forty five guys who are in the centerpiece.
And I think if you read the book you will
be a much smarter voter after it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We're talking with Bill O'Reilly. Of course, his new book
is Confronting the Presidents. You can check out his No
Spin news at billoreilly dot com. But you must emphasize
the word dot when you're thinking about it or saying it,
or it won't work. Now, this next question is a
little bit of a softball, and you could probably go
for three hours on it, but give me a relatively
(06:01):
short answer. You mentioned in the introduction of Confronting the
Presidents the danger of the lack of the teaching of
history in schools, and I had forgotten that you were
a history major, which all this even makes that much
more sense now, But just elaborate why you think there's
so much danger in not teaching history anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well, I was at a high school history teacher for
two years in a very dicey neighborhood north of Miami, Florida,
and I did my best to tell the urchins about
the country they are living in, and some of them
responded and some of them didn't. But now the attempt
(06:44):
is not made in many schools, so that the country
is functionally illiterate that it's past and how things work.
So in Taylor Swift can come out and endorse off
Kamala Harris and then voter registration spiked up. That means
(07:08):
that people are looking to Taylor Swift for electoral guidance. Me, okay,
I I don't think I would base my vote on
what Elvis said or Chubby Tecker when I was a
younger guy. So, but now we live in a country
(07:30):
where it is dangerous for you, for you the person.
If you don't know anything, you're in a danger zone.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'll tell you when when Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris
and all these people were saying, well, nobody's going to
change their vote because of Taylor Swift, what I said
to my listeners, and it was that you're missing the point.
It's not about people changing their vote. It's about her
getting twenty three year olds who weren't good to vote
to turn out and go vote. And they're all going
(08:02):
to vote for Harris. That's what you got to watch.
And then as you mentioned that, you know, the voter
registration numbers moved measurably after that. And I still think
that's the potential. I don't know if it's determinative, but
that's the risk.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, but it's it's symbolic of where we are as
a country, that we have a population under the age
of thirty five that is basically illiterate about their country.
And that's why when I write a book like in
Front of the Presidents, it's written in a fun way.
(08:40):
Is not a heavy lift. If you can't get through this,
and even though you king to read, you learn on
every page. That's why we are the most successful nonfiction
authors in the world. That is our formula. It'll do
some good.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So I'm not quite the history nerd that you are,
but I have said from time to time on my
show that some of the worst laws in American history,
and the most anti First Amendment free speech laws in
American history, were the Alien Sedition Acts.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And you actually talk about this in the book.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I wonder if you just tell my listeners a little
bit about the Alien and Sedition Acts.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
All Right, So John Adams, H's the second president and
basically a decent man, a smart guy, had courage, represented
British soldiers in the Boston massacre, had principles, but he
didn't like to be criticized. Okay, see the little guys
(09:45):
kind of chubbies bald, He continues, a little sensitive, right,
he's on the Trump level of I don't really accept
very similar, all right, John Adams and Trump. I even
know if Trump that. But so Adams when he gets
power after George Washington, Uh yeah, I'm a little tired
(10:08):
of these people taking shots at me. So I'm gonna
put him in jail. And Parker says, okay, they passed
the out alien expedition at that if you criticize the
federal government, the president, you can be charged criminally. And
it's put about sixty six journalists in prisons. I'm gonna
deserve to be in prison, and I would imprison some
(10:29):
journalists today in this country. But it's not right. It's unconstitutional,
and they got to throw that law up pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I love talking history.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Let's keep going with some of this, and I love
how you know, from time to time we've weave these
lessons of history back into what's going on today, which
is really your big picture point. As you mentioned a
moment ago, James Buchanan has a reputation as being our
worst president. And after doing research for this book, plus
(11:01):
whatever you knew already before you did this book, do
you think James Buchanan was our worst president?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Absolutely? And there's no close second to it. Biden is
the second worst president. But if Buchanan was so dastardly,
such a tower that he allowed the South to arm itself,
to organize a rebellion that led to the deaths of
more than a million people, how do you get any
worse than that? I have a letter written by Harry
(11:29):
Truman my personal collection, and Truman says to the person
he's runing to, if Andrew Jackson had been president in
eighteen fifty six, if he had won that election, there
would not have been a Civil War because Jackson would
have gone down and crushed the Southern rebellion in its infancy,
which is true. He would have even though Jackson himself
(11:53):
held slaves, he wasn't going to allow anybody to the union.
If Buchanan four years and did absolutely nothing, and there
was no excuse for it, I'm one of the few
people on earth that has his book. I figure out
why him where he makes every excuse in the world
of why he was such a coward. But there's no
(12:15):
question that he is the worst president ever. Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So a lot of political nerds of conservative or libertarian
persuasion and I'm the latter, are big fans of Calvin Coolidge.
You note in Confronting the Presidents that he's the only one,
the only president born on the fourth of July. I've
(12:40):
read that big Coolidge biography by Amity Schlas.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm guessing you have too.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
What did you find to be an interesting story about
silent cal that you didn't know when you started the
project of writing Confronting the Presidents.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, Collidge was a technician, no personality. He becomes president
because Warren Hardy gets poisoned in San Francisco by his wife.
Not really, that's the rumor. The rumor was that Florence
Harding was so set up with Warren racing around with
(13:14):
all these women a white house that he slipped a
little something in his beer in San Francisco. And I
don't know if we're not, but Warren got him into
the ground in record time, Noah Topping nothing, Boot Warren, Okay,
see you. And then Coolidge is VP and he gets denied,
(13:34):
so he comes in and he's basically very like Trump.
The business is what America does, and he made it
very easy for corporations to make money. And sometimes that
was good and sometimes that was bad because the Great
Depression was looming. But Collige was a successful president, decent man.
(14:02):
I don't know if I'd put him up there in
the top ten, but he didn't screw up that bad.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, I think, as I said, a lot of political
nerds of the libertarian and conservative leaning persuasions probably would
put him in the top ten. But who cares. Really,
I find him to be a fascinating character. In any case,
you have a lot of interesting tidbits about Barack Obama,
and it is kind of to me also interesting that
(14:33):
you know, someone's written a history book that includes Barack Obama.
It's sort of eye opening in a way. This is
American history now. And as you go through some of
the Obama stories, I found myself saying, oh, yeah, I
remember that, And you know, I remember the killing of
Bin Lauden in the first debate against Romney and the
signing of Obamacare what I think about most when I
think about big picture of Obama, and I want to
(14:55):
get your take on this and see whether you agree
with me, and if you do agree with.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Me, whether you think it matters at all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I think that Obama was the was the source of
the resurgence of racism and racism in politics in current America.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
You could take an argument that that was true. But
if it is true, he didn't do it on purpose,
So he wasn't John Tyler, who was an ardent racist.
People like that. Obama was a very hard working president.
Number one. I think he's an honest man. I know
(15:39):
him fairly well, interviewed him three times, work with him
on Brothers Keeper. I don't I never saw any kind
of dishonesty coming out of that administration. He made a
huge mistake with drawing truth from Iraq that led to
the rise of Isis directed the mistake somewhat by going
after a big Laden Hall and other Jihadis, but Trump
(16:01):
really wiped ices out. But on the racial front, he
was far too sensitive. Obama was to his base, and
his base believes that America is a racist country. Barack
Obama's base believes that I don't think there's an Obama
(16:24):
himself believes it because he couldn't being having risen up
from nothing to become president. How could you say the
country's racist when you had nothing and then you were
the most of a man in the world. You couldn't
have done it anywhere else. So and I never heard
him say anything, but his day believes that that we're
(16:49):
a racist country. And so he handered a little to
that date. Do you see what I'm saying? I do?
And that got out the people who are furious about
that point of view, and that led directly to the
election Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, I think the stuff we did with Professor
Gates at Harvard and Trayvon Martin, it's just like unnecessary
injection of race into culture.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Just when I felt like we were getting over it.
All right, I've got about I've got about a minute.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Left here, bill of all the presidents, and you researched
all of them for confronting the presidents, and let's exclude
any of the last fifty years of all the presidents
that you would call like a little more historic in
character with which one of them would you most enjoy
having a meal?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Keeddy Rose vote by faw because force of nature. I
called them on NewsNation, I do spots on NewsNation. I
called him the tailor swift of macho men. He was
an amazingly charismatic man with stories all day long, very
honest and blunt. Boy, that would be something there. But
(18:05):
Teddy was as unique as a comedy. He was a
very good president.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Bill O'Reilly's new book with Martin du Guard is called
Confronting the Presidents. It's a really really interesting read. You
will learn a lot, but it's also not dense. It
is fun, and I encourage you to go go buy
and read Confronting the Presidents, and perhaps consider buying one
for your maybe high school or college age child as well.
(18:34):
And of course you can follow Bill and all his
news at Bill O'Reilly dot com. As I said, you
must emphasize the dot. Billy, it's always so good to
talk to you. Thank you for making time.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
For us, Hi Ron, thanks having and best everybody in Denver.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You got it.
Appreciate your company, thanks for spending some time with me.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Is a rare opportunity for listeners right now to listen
to a conversation between two guys who represent, Well, we're
not here officially to represent, but we happen to represent
the two colleges that just came in dead last in
the rankings for college support of free speech. I've went
(00:26):
to Columbia, which had the dubious distinction of coming in second,
and my next guest, Bill O'Reilly harvard Man, has the
dubious distinction of going to the school that came in first.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Although both of our schools.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Were better than they are now, still they weren't great
even back then. Billy, it is so good to talk
to you again. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Are you ross good? Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And congratulations on the new book Confronting the Presidents.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, it's number three this morning on Amazon. So we're
very pleased with that, and you will like it in
particular because fact based all forty five guys whether they
hurt or helped the nations. So we're real pleased with
the way it got off. And this is an example
(01:12):
of freedom of expression right. Indeed, what happened at Harvard, Columbia, Brown,
University of Pennsylvania, on and on and on and on,
and even other smaller colleges like the University of Denver.
What happens is that the leadership is cowardly and they
(01:36):
allow the radical students to shut down opposing points of view.
So when I was at Harvard, at the Kennedy School,
we had a bunch of opposing points of view in
every class because there were military people there doing master's degrees.
I had a long journals already under my belt. I
(01:58):
had no problem. Then the classes were very well structure
through everybody's opinion was hurt. But then that stopped and
the fascists moved in. And you know, when you have
a president of a university, so it's much like the
president of a country. They said that the toll and
when RADCA left, teachers think that they can give bad
(02:21):
grades to people who disagree with them students. I mean,
then you have a hanarchy. So today that's what we're
looking at. It's a shame. I learned a lot at Harvard.
I'm sure you learned a lot of Columbia, And now
I don't know if I would send my son there.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I wouldn't send my kids.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I wouldn't send my kids to any Ivy League school
at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And I'm an education snob.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Both my parents went to Ivy League schools.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I only applied to Ivy League schools and I wouldn't
send my kid to one.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And let me ask.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Europe's far than I have.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I have a Boston University asters in an undergrad in
history from Maris College, and you know I went to
Harvard for the masters. But I am very distressed. Yeah,
by the uh, what's happening in this country? Not only
in the university system where they don't even teach history anymore.
(03:19):
I mean that's why I looked like infurning the president
so important. You're not gonna learn this school they I
gotta tell you the truth about all forty five men,
because they're looking at it through an ideological prism. We
don't do that, we're fact these people.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So why the switch?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And maybe it's just I had done enough already from
the Killing series to confronting and I assume there will
be confronting somebody else's book coming from you in Martin
Dugard after this one.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Why that switch?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, because of the presidential election of twenty four. So
I knew this is gonna be one of those supporting
lessons in history. So I wanted to set up the
voter by saying, this is what has happened in the past.
Let me give you a very specific example. The Kamala
Harris campaign is being running exactly exactly like the campaign
(04:17):
of nineteen quenty Warren Harding member old Warren. If you
go out in the streets in Denver and go, hey,
how about that Warren Harding and people go, yeah, you're
gonna heed a rapper? Yeah, I think I heard him.
We're isn't he on survivor? One of the worst presidents ever?
(04:43):
Wouldn't campaign, wouldn't answer any questions in the press. State
is marrying Ohio House waved to you from the porch
and wanted a landslide because people were fed up with
Woodrow Wilson eight years of the Democrats. They would have
voted for Chimpanzee and Warren is it jim And he
got in there and he was awful. And so I
(05:05):
wanted to write a book that says, look, if you
vote for somebody and you don't know anything about that person, she,
in this case won't tell you anything that there's a
reason why she won't. So the book was written to
(05:25):
instruct American voters. This is what has happened. And these
are the forty five guys who are in the centerpiece.
And I think if you read the book you will
be a much smarter voter after it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We're talking with Bill O'Reilly. Of course, his new book
is Confronting the Presidents. You can check out his No
Spin news at billoreilly dot com. But you must emphasize
the word dot when you're thinking about it or saying it,
or it won't work. Now, this next question is a
little bit of a softball, and you could probably go
for three hours on it, but give me a relatively
(06:01):
short answer. You mentioned in the introduction of Confronting the
Presidents the danger of the lack of the teaching of
history in schools, and I had forgotten that you were
a history major, which all this even makes that much
more sense now, But just elaborate why you think there's
so much danger in not teaching history anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well, I was at a high school history teacher for
two years in a very dicey neighborhood north of Miami, Florida,
and I did my best to tell the urchins about
the country they are living in, and some of them
responded and some of them didn't. But now the attempt
(06:44):
is not made in many schools, so that the country
is functionally illiterate that it's past and how things work.
So in Taylor Swift can come out and endorse off
Kamala Harris and then voter registration spiked up. That means
(07:08):
that people are looking to Taylor Swift for electoral guidance. Me, okay,
I I don't think I would base my vote on
what Elvis said or Chubby Tecker when I was a
younger guy. So, but now we live in a country
(07:30):
where it is dangerous for you, for you the person.
If you don't know anything, you're in a danger zone.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'll tell you when when Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris
and all these people were saying, well, nobody's going to
change their vote because of Taylor Swift, what I said
to my listeners, and it was that you're missing the point.
It's not about people changing their vote. It's about her
getting twenty three year olds who weren't good to vote
to turn out and go vote. And they're all going
(08:02):
to vote for Harris. That's what you got to watch.
And then as you mentioned that, you know, the voter
registration numbers moved measurably after that. And I still think
that's the potential. I don't know if it's determinative, but
that's the risk.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, but it's it's symbolic of where we are as
a country, that we have a population under the age
of thirty five that is basically illiterate about their country.
And that's why when I write a book like in
Front of the Presidents, it's written in a fun way.
(08:40):
Is not a heavy lift. If you can't get through this,
and even though you king to read, you learn on
every page. That's why we are the most successful nonfiction
authors in the world. That is our formula. It'll do
some good.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So I'm not quite the history nerd that you are,
but I have said from time to time on my
show that some of the worst laws in American history,
and the most anti First Amendment free speech laws in
American history, were the Alien Sedition Acts.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And you actually talk about this in the book.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I wonder if you just tell my listeners a little
bit about the Alien and Sedition Acts.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
All Right, So John Adams, H's the second president and
basically a decent man, a smart guy, had courage, represented
British soldiers in the Boston massacre, had principles, but he
didn't like to be criticized. Okay, see the little guys
(09:45):
kind of chubbies bald, He continues, a little sensitive, right,
he's on the Trump level of I don't really accept
very similar, all right, John Adams and Trump. I even
know if Trump that. But so Adams when he gets
power after George Washington, Uh yeah, I'm a little tired
(10:08):
of these people taking shots at me. So I'm gonna
put him in jail. And Parker says, okay, they passed
the out alien expedition at that if you criticize the
federal government, the president, you can be charged criminally. And
it's put about sixty six journalists in prisons. I'm gonna
deserve to be in prison, and I would imprison some
(10:29):
journalists today in this country. But it's not right. It's unconstitutional,
and they got to throw that law up pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I love talking history.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Let's keep going with some of this, and I love
how you know, from time to time we've weave these
lessons of history back into what's going on today, which
is really your big picture point. As you mentioned a
moment ago, James Buchanan has a reputation as being our
worst president. And after doing research for this book, plus
(11:01):
whatever you knew already before you did this book, do
you think James Buchanan was our worst president?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Absolutely? And there's no close second to it. Biden is
the second worst president. But if Buchanan was so dastardly,
such a tower that he allowed the South to arm itself,
to organize a rebellion that led to the deaths of
more than a million people, how do you get any
worse than that? I have a letter written by Harry
(11:29):
Truman my personal collection, and Truman says to the person
he's runing to, if Andrew Jackson had been president in
eighteen fifty six, if he had won that election, there
would not have been a Civil War because Jackson would
have gone down and crushed the Southern rebellion in its infancy,
which is true. He would have even though Jackson himself
(11:53):
held slaves, he wasn't going to allow anybody to the union.
If Buchanan four years and did absolutely nothing, and there
was no excuse for it, I'm one of the few
people on earth that has his book. I figure out
why him where he makes every excuse in the world
of why he was such a coward. But there's no
(12:15):
question that he is the worst president ever. Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So a lot of political nerds of conservative or libertarian
persuasion and I'm the latter, are big fans of Calvin Coolidge.
You note in Confronting the Presidents that he's the only one,
the only president born on the fourth of July. I've
(12:40):
read that big Coolidge biography by Amity Schlas.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm guessing you have too.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
What did you find to be an interesting story about
silent cal that you didn't know when you started the
project of writing Confronting the Presidents.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, Collidge was a technician, no personality. He becomes president
because Warren Hardy gets poisoned in San Francisco by his wife.
Not really, that's the rumor. The rumor was that Florence
Harding was so set up with Warren racing around with
(13:14):
all these women a white house that he slipped a
little something in his beer in San Francisco. And I
don't know if we're not, but Warren got him into
the ground in record time, Noah Topping nothing, Boot Warren, Okay,
see you. And then Coolidge is VP and he gets denied,
(13:34):
so he comes in and he's basically very like Trump.
The business is what America does, and he made it
very easy for corporations to make money. And sometimes that
was good and sometimes that was bad because the Great
Depression was looming. But Collige was a successful president, decent man.
(14:02):
I don't know if I'd put him up there in
the top ten, but he didn't screw up that bad.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, I think, as I said, a lot of political
nerds of the libertarian and conservative leaning persuasions probably would
put him in the top ten. But who cares. Really,
I find him to be a fascinating character. In any case,
you have a lot of interesting tidbits about Barack Obama,
and it is kind of to me also interesting that
(14:33):
you know, someone's written a history book that includes Barack Obama.
It's sort of eye opening in a way. This is
American history now. And as you go through some of
the Obama stories, I found myself saying, oh, yeah, I
remember that, And you know, I remember the killing of
Bin Lauden in the first debate against Romney and the
signing of Obamacare what I think about most when I
think about big picture of Obama, and I want to
(14:55):
get your take on this and see whether you agree
with me, and if you do agree with.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Me, whether you think it matters at all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I think that Obama was the was the source of
the resurgence of racism and racism in politics in current America.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
You could take an argument that that was true. But
if it is true, he didn't do it on purpose,
So he wasn't John Tyler, who was an ardent racist.
People like that. Obama was a very hard working president.
Number one. I think he's an honest man. I know
(15:39):
him fairly well, interviewed him three times, work with him
on Brothers Keeper. I don't I never saw any kind
of dishonesty coming out of that administration. He made a
huge mistake with drawing truth from Iraq that led to
the rise of Isis directed the mistake somewhat by going
after a big Laden Hall and other Jihadis, but Trump
(16:01):
really wiped ices out. But on the racial front, he
was far too sensitive. Obama was to his base, and
his base believes that America is a racist country. Barack
Obama's base believes that I don't think there's an Obama
(16:24):
himself believes it because he couldn't being having risen up
from nothing to become president. How could you say the
country's racist when you had nothing and then you were
the most of a man in the world. You couldn't
have done it anywhere else. So and I never heard
him say anything, but his day believes that that we're
(16:49):
a racist country. And so he handered a little to
that date. Do you see what I'm saying? I do?
And that got out the people who are furious about
that point of view, and that led directly to the
election Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, I think the stuff we did with Professor
Gates at Harvard and Trayvon Martin, it's just like unnecessary
injection of race into culture.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Just when I felt like we were getting over it.
All right, I've got about I've got about a minute.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Left here, bill of all the presidents, and you researched
all of them for confronting the presidents, and let's exclude
any of the last fifty years of all the presidents
that you would call like a little more historic in
character with which one of them would you most enjoy
having a meal?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Keeddy Rose vote by faw because force of nature. I
called them on NewsNation, I do spots on NewsNation. I
called him the tailor swift of macho men. He was
an amazingly charismatic man with stories all day long, very
honest and blunt. Boy, that would be something there. But
(18:05):
Teddy was as unique as a comedy. He was a
very good president.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Bill O'Reilly's new book with Martin du Guard is called
Confronting the Presidents. It's a really really interesting read. You
will learn a lot, but it's also not dense. It
is fun, and I encourage you to go go buy
and read Confronting the Presidents, and perhaps consider buying one
for your maybe high school or college age child as well.
(18:34):
And of course you can follow Bill and all his
news at Bill O'Reilly dot com. As I said, you
must emphasize the dot. Billy, it's always so good to
talk to you. Thank you for making time.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
For us, Hi Ron, thanks having and best everybody in Denver.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You got it.
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