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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Please to welcome back to the show my friend Leland Vittert,
who hosts on Balance on News Nation weeknights at five pm.
It is my and my wife's single favorite cable news
show and we watch it religiously, by which I mean
we are kneeling on the ground with our hands.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Together and now we really enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And Leland is one of my favorite analysts of almost everything,
so really happy to have him on. And so first
of all, Leland, good morning and or afternoon where you are,
and thanks for making time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Always good, always good to be with you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm here with the disciples, right exactly, That's exactly right,
So preaching to the choir or the converted. What did
you make of your really interesting interview on your show
last night with Christy Shamblin, who is the mother in
law of Nicole g one of the young Americans who
died at Abbey Gate.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So this is the story that Donald Trump, when he
went to the ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery for the
thirteen Americans killed during the Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan, brought
with him a campaign photographer and then released video of
him walking with the families against the regulations at Ireland,
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and we had one of the mothers on because we
really wanted to hear firsthand that they invited Donald Trump,
they invited Harris, they invited Biden, and Trump was the
only one who responded. They were happy to have him
on and on it, so that cleared up my response.
My overall feeling is is how dumb Republicans are, and
a common theme for US is to never underestimate Republicans'
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ability to screw things up.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Biden administration could have said the Trump administration and
Trump folks, I should say.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He could have said, very simple, hey, we're sorry, we
brought a campaign photographer we didn't note was against the rules.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We won't release any video.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And the next time Joe Biden oversees the death of
thirteen American service members, will be sure not to show
up to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The ceremony honoring them.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
When he doesn't show up, and by the way, when
he meets the cat when they meet the cast skids
at Dover, I won't look at my watch either, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Let's move on.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
But the Trump administration or Trump Trump group right now,
Team Trump and Republicans can't figure out how to do this,
and I think you're seeing over and over again when
my takeaway right now in the election is the amount
of missed opportunities by Team Trump and the amount that
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they're still leaving on the field right now is wild.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And part of that just because of the people he
has surrounding.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
You know, some people, and I don't know whether this
is more of what they hope or more of what
they think. And I think you mentioned it a little
bit on the show, but Kamala Harris decided to jump
into this thing and made her own comments kind of
criticizing Trump. But that certainly opens the door for people
like Tom Cotton, who went on one of the Sunday
shows to criticize Biden Harris for, as that gold Star
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mom said to you last night, for their complete lack
of communication with the families of these thirteen dead.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
What to me is most interesting is how the Sunday shows.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And journalists at all just cannot weigh two pounds.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
On any little thing they think they have got with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And if you think about what.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The scandal here is, the scandal is not did Donald
Trump bring a campaign photographer and release video?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Should he have? Probably not fine.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It is a one day's story at most. What the
real scandal here is is that American foreign policy since
the withdrawal of Afghanistan, has been an epic disaster. We
have squandered what was an incredibly powerful position in the
world over the past three and a half year, over
the past three and a half years, to the point
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where now the President of the United States is trying
to bully the Prime Minister of Israel into seating ground
and offering a pathetic deal to Hamas. It's a crazy
reversal in America's standing in the world over the past
three and a half years, and that is so far
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getting absolutely no coverage.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, so let's stick with that pivot for a minute.
So when you worked for your previous employer, before you
were at News Nation, you spent some years in Jerusalem
as a correspondent, and you and I have talked about
this on my show before, but I think that gives
you a particular insight.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Into the dynamics over there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And I have sort of that same level of I
don't call it shock, but more like dismay that somehow
Joe Biden keeps leaning on Benjamin Netanya, who to make
it easier for Hamas and Kamala Harris just the other day,
I think talked about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A two state solution. There's no two state solution here,
and the Palestinians don't want a two state solution either.
They just want to read you dead.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There is no two state solution, because you point out
very rightly, the Palestinians do not want a two state
solution by an overwhelming majority. They don't want a two
state solution. And you have Iran funding the militant groups
that want to destroy Israel, and Iran wants to destroy Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yet, and part of this is on the media too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
When they're dealing with the situation, they constantly asked, Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris, is.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Israel doing enough? Well, what else?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
When someone's trying to kill you, it is you. It
is not on you to appease them. It is on
you to defend yourself and hopefully for your friends to
help you defend yourself. And for all those who say, oh, well,
the United States and the Biden Harris administration gives Israel
a lot of weapons, yes, that's true, and then cut
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their knees out from under the Israelis in the international
community over the past ten months. And if we're talking
about the six hostages that were executed by Hamas, they
were found in Rafa, which is the same place that
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden both publicly chastised the Israelis
for going into. So it's it's very difficult to understand
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American foreign policy right now unless you look at it
through the lens of Neville Chamberlain, who famously was the
British Prime.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Minister ross As you you know, brought about World War Two.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
By appeasing the Nazis, And right now the administration's policy
seems to be bullying Israel into a peasing nose that
want to destroy.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Kamala Harris spoke about Israel a little.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Bit at the Democratic National Convention with much stronger pro
Israel language than I've heard from her or Joe Biden before,
And near the end of her remarks there she said
she also, you know, doesn't want Palestinian civilians to die,
and she talked about Palestinian self determination, but she didn't
talk about a two state solution.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Do you do you find anything.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
From Kamala Harris that would give you some hope that
if she became president, our policy towards Israel would be
more coherent and more reliably against barbaric terrorists than the
Biden foreign policy is.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Absolutely not. And I'll give you a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
One because the applause at the DNC and I was
there was far louder in the room for the Palestinian
self determination and living in dignity and blah bah blah
blah blah than it was anything about Israel and anything
about the hostages.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So that tells you where the Democratic base is. Number one.
Number two Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And I think we've seen this is willing to say
anything to anyone at.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Any time that she thinks is going to get her elected.
She has had that track record. Joe Biden, to his credit, at.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Least at the beginning, seems to be of the old
Democratic Party that the supported Israel and oftentimes supported Israel
more than the Republican Party did. If we go back
to the seventies and eighties, it was the Democrats who
really supported Israel. So no, I think her policy will
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be more coherent. I think it will be tougher on Israel.
And I think if you look at where she is
she's much more of the Obama foreign policy ilk. And
you think about like if we had Ben Rhodes as are,
you know, not as the you know, Deputy Assistant for
whatever speech writing on national security, but as Secretary of State.
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This is the guy whose nickname was Hamas in the
White House because he was so anti Israel. That tells
you sort of the direction I think that Kamala Harris
is going. Now that's not to say one is right
one is wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's not my job. But I think in terms of analysis,
that's where it appears. This is heavy.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I fear that you're right. I hope that you're wrong.
If she wins, I hope there is some slight moderating
influence on her due to her being married to a
Jewish man who is strongly pro Israel, not just not
just Jewish. But again, I don't want to confuse what
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I hope with what I think or with what you think.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, there's a long history of people thinking that because
someone is quote Jewish, that's somehow and quote pro Israel,
that they have a clear eyed understanding of the Middle East.
And those are two very different things. And there is
a faction in Israel. We see them in the streets
right now who are saying the best thing for Israel
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is to make a hostage deal, a cease fire at
any cost. And that seems to be where Kamala Harris
and Joe Biden are as well, and what Benjamin.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Netanyahu is seeing and realizing.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And look, ben Yaho's got a lot of issues, but
he's pretty clear eyed on this. The guy who is
in charge of Hamas right now and who plan the
October seventh attax his name Yahwa Sinwar. Yeah, yeah, Sinhar
Sinwar was released during the Galad Shalite deal, which was
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one Israeli soldier who had been kidnapped by Haima were
a thousand Palestinian prisoners, and that was ten years ago,
and then you got October seventh. And I think what
Netanyahu is rightfully saying is I don't want to be
the person who release the next Yaya Sinoar, because all
that's gonna happen is Hamas is going to re arm,
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they are going to regroup, they're going to rebuild, and
then we're.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Going to be right back at the same spot in
ten years or less.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, So I agree with what you said about NETANYAHUO
has issues, and there's all this stuff going on in
the background, and the potential things that he did that
were wrong, and then the judicial reform that really divided
the country.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But now they're fighting.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
A war and net Yahoo, first of all, just personally,
I mean personally hit him is a legit war hero,
badass who knows what he's talking about when it comes
to fighting the bad guys. And I think I had
a guest on from Israel a couple of days ago
and she said, look, even among the people who don't
like Netanyahu, many are very glad that he's actually the
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guy handling this war at this point, even if they'd
like to see him out of office after the war
is done. And that's kind of where I am. My
opinions irrelevant. I don't vote in Israel, but that's kind
of where I am. I'm glad he's at least trying
to stand up to all these people pushing him around.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean, you're you're more of.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
An analysis guy than an opinion guy, But I mean,
are you glad that it's that net Nya who is
standing up to these people.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Well, we're in a situation where net NYAHUO is standing
up more to Iran than the United States is right,
and Israel's the little Satan and America is the big Satan.
As the Iranians are happy to tell you. They you know,
they chant death to Israel and death to America at
the same.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Time in Iran. So we need to be clear eyed
about who our enemies are and where where this is headed.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Israel is really the front line in the fight against
Iran that would like to take on America. I would
say to you one more thing. At some point we
have to decide, as America, are we going to force
our allies to live next to people whose sworn desire
is to obliterate them? Right, And there's a dystopian situation
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here that our strongest ally in the Middle East, if
not in the world, Israel was attacked and invaded on
October seventh, and we are handcuffing the Israelis and trying
to force them into a terrible deal, whereas Ukraine, which
was invaded and we have come to their aid, we
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are saying nothing but absolute victory is a answer. So
why we are forcing the Israelis to accept a deal
which leaves a murderous.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Regime on their borders.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That is sworn to kill them, and why that's not
good enough for you Ukraine. We're forcing Ukraine or we're
forcing his world to negotiate and telling Ukraine not to negotiate.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't understand. We're talking with Leland Vinderd. He's host
of on Balance on News Nation five PM weeknights. All right,
for our last minute or so together, I want to
lighten it up a little bit. So I don't know
if this is what's I don't know if this is
what's on your left wrist right now, but I believe
that you have a wrist watch that really means a.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Lot to you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I would like you to tell us a little
story about a particular watch.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I don't know if it's the one you're wearing.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The one I'm wearing is my Apple Watch, which, interestingly enough,
I was sitting on the set yesterday. I had been
there for about fifty minutes, and my Apple Watch told me, congratulations,
you've closed all your.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Rains, as I had been sitting for fifty minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Which thought which made me think that everything my Apple
Watch tells me is complete buppcus.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yet I still wear it.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yes, I split it on this quart tells you where
my head is uh, and uh, you're you're nice to
make You're nice to make that point. You know what,
I think what what you're getting at is there's something
in life. There are things in life that have great meaning.
And whether it's a watch or for my dad it
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was a tie bar, or for you, I know, it's
some things as well that have been passed down and
that they have value. They may or may not have
monetary value, but their real value is that which is sentimental.
And we we've sort of gotten away from that so
much in life, which makes the things that are sentimental
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all the more valuable. I think about one of my
dad's my most valuable possession is a piece of paper
which was a letter that was written to him by
his dad that he still carries. So you're right to
point out how important those things are. And I think
I'd say it's why you and I get along so well,
because we still have that emotional connection to the past
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and the things that matter.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do you want to give us a few seconds about
the watch i'm referencing.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I well, I don't know which one you are, but
if you're referencing the watch, there was a watch that
my parents gave me after my first year through the
Arab Spring, and I think at the same point it
probably is a touchstone for me to the lessons that
I'm talking about right now and how my worldview change.
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And every time I look at it, I think about
those lessons and think about what a hard place the
world is. And probably if you hear that emotion come
out in me and Will tonight writing about a lot
of this in our email that comes out every day
at four pm Eastern two pm your time. You can
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comes from.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is my time in the Middle East, Folks.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I should have mentioned that before, But go.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
To warnoes dot com and what you're basically gonna get
there this is actually really cool. It's essentially Leland's show preparation,
you know, nicely formatted, but it will it's really a
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Leland's going to talk about on the show. And I
encourage you to watch the show. But if you miss
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since Leland started this. Leland hosts on Balance on NewsNation
five pm Mountain Time weeknights. Thank you so much for
your time, my friend, talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Thanks Buddy,
Please to welcome back to the show my friend Leland Vittert,
who hosts on Balance on News Nation weeknights at five pm.
It is my and my wife's single favorite cable news
show and we watch it religiously, by which I mean
we are kneeling on the ground with our hands.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Together and now we really enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And Leland is one of my favorite analysts of almost everything,
so really happy to have him on. And so first
of all, Leland, good morning and or afternoon where you are,
and thanks for making time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Always good, always good to be with you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm here with the disciples, right exactly, That's exactly right,
So preaching to the choir or the converted. What did
you make of your really interesting interview on your show
last night with Christy Shamblin, who is the mother in
law of Nicole g one of the young Americans who
died at Abbey Gate.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So this is the story that Donald Trump, when he
went to the ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery for the
thirteen Americans killed during the Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan, brought
with him a campaign photographer and then released video of
him walking with the families against the regulations at Ireland,
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and we had one of the mothers on because we
really wanted to hear firsthand that they invited Donald Trump,
they invited Harris, they invited Biden, and Trump was the
only one who responded. They were happy to have him
on and on it, so that cleared up my response.
My overall feeling is is how dumb Republicans are, and
a common theme for US is to never underestimate Republicans'
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ability to screw things up.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Biden administration could have said the Trump administration and
Trump folks, I should say.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He could have said, very simple, hey, we're sorry, we
brought a campaign photographer we didn't note was against the rules.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We won't release any video.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And the next time Joe Biden oversees the death of
thirteen American service members, will be sure not to show
up to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The ceremony honoring them.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
When he doesn't show up, and by the way, when
he meets the cat when they meet the cast skids
at Dover, I won't look at my watch either, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Let's move on.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
But the Trump administration or Trump Trump group right now,
Team Trump and Republicans can't figure out how to do this,
and I think you're seeing over and over again when
my takeaway right now in the election is the amount
of missed opportunities by Team Trump and the amount that
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they're still leaving on the field right now is wild.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And part of that just because of the people he
has surrounding.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
You know, some people, and I don't know whether this
is more of what they hope or more of what
they think. And I think you mentioned it a little
bit on the show, but Kamala Harris decided to jump
into this thing and made her own comments kind of
criticizing Trump. But that certainly opens the door for people
like Tom Cotton, who went on one of the Sunday
shows to criticize Biden Harris for, as that gold Star
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mom said to you last night, for their complete lack
of communication with the families of these thirteen dead.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
What to me is most interesting is how the Sunday shows.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And journalists at all just cannot weigh two pounds.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
On any little thing they think they have got with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And if you think about what.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The scandal here is, the scandal is not did Donald
Trump bring a campaign photographer and release video?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Should he have? Probably not fine.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It is a one day's story at most. What the
real scandal here is is that American foreign policy since
the withdrawal of Afghanistan, has been an epic disaster. We
have squandered what was an incredibly powerful position in the
world over the past three and a half year, over
the past three and a half years, to the point
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where now the President of the United States is trying
to bully the Prime Minister of Israel into seating ground
and offering a pathetic deal to Hamas. It's a crazy
reversal in America's standing in the world over the past
three and a half years, and that is so far
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getting absolutely no coverage.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, so let's stick with that pivot for a minute.
So when you worked for your previous employer, before you
were at News Nation, you spent some years in Jerusalem
as a correspondent, and you and I have talked about
this on my show before, but I think that gives
you a particular insight.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Into the dynamics over there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And I have sort of that same level of I
don't call it shock, but more like dismay that somehow
Joe Biden keeps leaning on Benjamin Netanya, who to make
it easier for Hamas and Kamala Harris just the other day,
I think talked about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A two state solution. There's no two state solution here,
and the Palestinians don't want a two state solution either.
They just want to read you dead.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There is no two state solution, because you point out
very rightly, the Palestinians do not want a two state
solution by an overwhelming majority. They don't want a two
state solution. And you have Iran funding the militant groups
that want to destroy Israel, and Iran wants to destroy Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yet, and part of this is on the media too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
When they're dealing with the situation, they constantly asked, Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris, is.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Israel doing enough? Well, what else?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
When someone's trying to kill you, it is you. It
is not on you to appease them. It is on
you to defend yourself and hopefully for your friends to
help you defend yourself. And for all those who say, oh, well,
the United States and the Biden Harris administration gives Israel
a lot of weapons, yes, that's true, and then cut
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their knees out from under the Israelis in the international
community over the past ten months. And if we're talking
about the six hostages that were executed by Hamas, they
were found in Rafa, which is the same place that
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden both publicly chastised the Israelis
for going into. So it's it's very difficult to understand
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American foreign policy right now unless you look at it
through the lens of Neville Chamberlain, who famously was the
British Prime.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Minister ross As you you know, brought about World War Two.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
By appeasing the Nazis, And right now the administration's policy
seems to be bullying Israel into a peasing nose that
want to destroy.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Kamala Harris spoke about Israel a little.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Bit at the Democratic National Convention with much stronger pro
Israel language than I've heard from her or Joe Biden before,
And near the end of her remarks there she said
she also, you know, doesn't want Palestinian civilians to die,
and she talked about Palestinian self determination, but she didn't
talk about a two state solution.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Do you do you find anything.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
From Kamala Harris that would give you some hope that
if she became president, our policy towards Israel would be
more coherent and more reliably against barbaric terrorists than the
Biden foreign policy is.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Absolutely not. And I'll give you a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
One because the applause at the DNC and I was
there was far louder in the room for the Palestinian
self determination and living in dignity and blah bah blah
blah blah than it was anything about Israel and anything
about the hostages.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So that tells you where the Democratic base is. Number one.
Number two Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And I think we've seen this is willing to say
anything to anyone at.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Any time that she thinks is going to get her elected.
She has had that track record. Joe Biden, to his credit, at.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Least at the beginning, seems to be of the old
Democratic Party that the supported Israel and oftentimes supported Israel
more than the Republican Party did. If we go back
to the seventies and eighties, it was the Democrats who
really supported Israel. So no, I think her policy will
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be more coherent. I think it will be tougher on Israel.
And I think if you look at where she is
she's much more of the Obama foreign policy ilk. And
you think about like if we had Ben Rhodes as are,
you know, not as the you know, Deputy Assistant for
whatever speech writing on national security, but as Secretary of State.
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This is the guy whose nickname was Hamas in the
White House because he was so anti Israel. That tells
you sort of the direction I think that Kamala Harris
is going. Now that's not to say one is right
one is wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's not my job. But I think in terms of analysis,
that's where it appears. This is heavy.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I fear that you're right. I hope that you're wrong.
If she wins, I hope there is some slight moderating
influence on her due to her being married to a
Jewish man who is strongly pro Israel, not just not
just Jewish. But again, I don't want to confuse what
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I hope with what I think or with what you think.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, there's a long history of people thinking that because
someone is quote Jewish, that's somehow and quote pro Israel,
that they have a clear eyed understanding of the Middle East.
And those are two very different things. And there is
a faction in Israel. We see them in the streets
right now who are saying the best thing for Israel
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is to make a hostage deal, a cease fire at
any cost. And that seems to be where Kamala Harris
and Joe Biden are as well, and what Benjamin.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Netanyahu is seeing and realizing.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And look, ben Yaho's got a lot of issues, but
he's pretty clear eyed on this. The guy who is
in charge of Hamas right now and who plan the
October seventh attax his name Yahwa Sinwar. Yeah, yeah, Sinhar
Sinwar was released during the Galad Shalite deal, which was
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one Israeli soldier who had been kidnapped by Haima were
a thousand Palestinian prisoners, and that was ten years ago,
and then you got October seventh. And I think what
Netanyahu is rightfully saying is I don't want to be
the person who release the next Yaya Sinoar, because all
that's gonna happen is Hamas is going to re arm,
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they are going to regroup, they're going to rebuild, and
then we're.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Going to be right back at the same spot in
ten years or less.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, So I agree with what you said about NETANYAHUO
has issues, and there's all this stuff going on in
the background, and the potential things that he did that
were wrong, and then the judicial reform that really divided
the country.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But now they're fighting.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
A war and net Yahoo, first of all, just personally,
I mean personally hit him is a legit war hero,
badass who knows what he's talking about when it comes
to fighting the bad guys. And I think I had
a guest on from Israel a couple of days ago
and she said, look, even among the people who don't
like Netanyahu, many are very glad that he's actually the
(12:02):
guy handling this war at this point, even if they'd
like to see him out of office after the war
is done. And that's kind of where I am. My
opinions irrelevant. I don't vote in Israel, but that's kind
of where I am. I'm glad he's at least trying
to stand up to all these people pushing him around.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean, you're you're more of.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
An analysis guy than an opinion guy, But I mean,
are you glad that it's that net Nya who is
standing up to these people.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Well, we're in a situation where net NYAHUO is standing
up more to Iran than the United States is right,
and Israel's the little Satan and America is the big Satan.
As the Iranians are happy to tell you. They you know,
they chant death to Israel and death to America at
the same.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Time in Iran. So we need to be clear eyed
about who our enemies are and where where this is headed.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Israel is really the front line in the fight against
Iran that would like to take on America. I would
say to you one more thing. At some point we
have to decide, as America, are we going to force
our allies to live next to people whose sworn desire
is to obliterate them? Right, And there's a dystopian situation
(13:18):
here that our strongest ally in the Middle East, if
not in the world, Israel was attacked and invaded on
October seventh, and we are handcuffing the Israelis and trying
to force them into a terrible deal, whereas Ukraine, which
was invaded and we have come to their aid, we
(13:42):
are saying nothing but absolute victory is a answer. So
why we are forcing the Israelis to accept a deal
which leaves a murderous.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Regime on their borders.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That is sworn to kill them, and why that's not
good enough for you Ukraine. We're forcing Ukraine or we're
forcing his world to negotiate and telling Ukraine not to negotiate.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't understand. We're talking with Leland Vinderd. He's host
of on Balance on News Nation five PM weeknights. All right,
for our last minute or so together, I want to
lighten it up a little bit. So I don't know
if this is what's I don't know if this is
what's on your left wrist right now, but I believe
that you have a wrist watch that really means a.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Lot to you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I would like you to tell us a little
story about a particular watch.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I don't know if it's the one you're wearing.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The one I'm wearing is my Apple Watch, which, interestingly enough,
I was sitting on the set yesterday. I had been
there for about fifty minutes, and my Apple Watch told me, congratulations,
you've closed all your.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Rains, as I had been sitting for fifty minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Which thought which made me think that everything my Apple
Watch tells me is complete buppcus.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yet I still wear it.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yes, I split it on this quart tells you where
my head is uh, and uh, you're you're nice to
make You're nice to make that point. You know what,
I think what what you're getting at is there's something
in life. There are things in life that have great meaning.
And whether it's a watch or for my dad it
(15:21):
was a tie bar, or for you, I know, it's
some things as well that have been passed down and
that they have value. They may or may not have
monetary value, but their real value is that which is sentimental.
And we we've sort of gotten away from that so
much in life, which makes the things that are sentimental
(15:43):
all the more valuable. I think about one of my
dad's my most valuable possession is a piece of paper
which was a letter that was written to him by
his dad that he still carries. So you're right to
point out how important those things are. And I think
I'd say it's why you and I get along so well,
because we still have that emotional connection to the past
(16:05):
and the things that matter.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do you want to give us a few seconds about
the watch i'm referencing.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I well, I don't know which one you are, but
if you're referencing the watch, there was a watch that
my parents gave me after my first year through the
Arab Spring, and I think at the same point it
probably is a touchstone for me to the lessons that
I'm talking about right now and how my worldview change.
(16:34):
And every time I look at it, I think about
those lessons and think about what a hard place the
world is. And probably if you hear that emotion come
out in me and Will tonight writing about a lot
of this in our email that comes out every day
at four pm Eastern two pm your time. You can
go to warnoes dot com to subscribe. I know Ross's
a subscriber, and that's where a lot of that worldview
(16:57):
comes from.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is my time in the Middle East, Folks.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I should have mentioned that before, But go.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
To warnoes dot com and what you're basically gonna get
there this is actually really cool. It's essentially Leland's show preparation,
you know, nicely formatted, but it will it's really a
deep dive into some key issues of the day that
Leland's going to talk about on the show. And I
encourage you to watch the show. But if you miss
(17:24):
the show, at least if you read war Notes, you'll
be smarter and better for it. Warnotes dot com and
it's absolutely free. And yes, I've been a subscriber since
since Leland started this. Leland hosts on Balance on NewsNation
five pm Mountain Time weeknights. Thank you so much for
your time, my friend, talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Thanks Buddy,
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