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Yeah, rip tough, bad newsto need advice, so you don't have
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Martino here, Welcome to the show. We are here, of course,
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will always take comments quickly on YouTube. And uh, I see my morons
have gathered, and welcome. Nowlet's go to the phones. What do
you say, like, Ryan wantsto talk about a mechanic and a service
issue. Whatever, guys, here'sthe most important thing. Whatever you want
to talk about, don't let itfester over time. You should call because

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it's always harder to deal with itafterwards. Man, you got all kinds
of weird stuff on your camera.It says it is. It says that
it's August of twenty twenty two.Hold on, hold on, hold on.
It says mode, it says ev, it says camera battery level three.

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I see more about your camera thanI see you. What's going on
here? Just turned it off?I just so you never touch anything.
You've never touched anything. How doesthis happen? You know that camera every
time you turn it on, youhave to turn that display off. That's
the default. But I can go, oh, I have the wrong day.
I never set the date on thatcrap. And all I do is
uh and I keep it? Uhplay? How he got up and left?

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I got up because you're getting adelay. I got up to turn
off that thing there. Now it'sclear, see haha, All right,
three, all three, seven toone three. Talk what's going on?
Ryan? Well? Hi Ryan,what's happening? Hey Tom? Can you
hear me? Yes, sir,what's happening? Oh? Thank you for
picking up my call. So Ibrought my car in ninety five ford E

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one fifty and on April eleventh,I brought it in because it was having
a hard time. Did you sayan E an E E one fifty?
Okay? What is an E onefifty? Is it a Pickup's a van?
An F one fifty is a pickup? And E is an a condo
line van? Got it? Thankyou Mark? Okay? So then what's

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going on? Man? So itwas having a bit of trouble starting for
a few weeks and it got alittle bit worse. So I figured,
okay, I'll bring it in.And the only shop that was able to
do it very quickly was this Firestonein Westminster. So I bring it in.
Now, how'd you fall? Waita minute, did you just start

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calling around? I actually work withquite a few auto mechanics. But I
had a friend visiting from out ofthe country, so I was kind of
in a rush to get it done. And this is the only company that
was willing to do it within thatweek. So they also happened to be
a few miles from my work,so I figured it was kind of convenient
in that way, all right.So what happened? So I bring it

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in. They give me a calla few hours later, which is great.
They say, you know, wethink it's a fuel pump and you
need new breaks on the front anda diagnostic is one hundred and twenty five
dollars. I say, okay,well, what's what's the total cost?
They also threw in two other things, and I said, well, is
there anything we can do? Sowhat was it? So you did get

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You did get an estimate, bro, you got an estimate. I got
an estimate. It was just shyof two thousand dollars. And who I
don't make a lot of money,but you know, it's all I had,
and I figured, you know what, I need this thing to get
to work. I needed to getaround, do my groceries, et cetera.
It's my own that's a lot ofmoney. But you were satisfied and
you did it. You agreed toit. Yeah, it was again,

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well, you either agreed to itor you didn't. I did, yes,
okay, So now what's the problem, man? So I pick it
up, and so they did therepairs overnight. So the next day I
pick it up. After agreeing tothe price, I go pay for it,
pick it up, and the veryfollowing day it completely stalls out and

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pies. And then it will run, it'll start, but it won't run.
So I get it towed back andthe next day they call me and
say that the fuel hose was notconnected the way they phrased it. The
fuel hose got disconnected the way Igot it. They did not connect it
properly. All right, that's fine. So they fixed it. They reconnected
reconnected a fuel holes exactly. SoI think, okay, easy, psy.

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So I got to pick it upagain. And then the following day
it completely stalls out. It dieswhen I'm driving it. I mean thinking
the same thing, but hold on, the original problem was probably was trouble
starting. Then it was stalling,and it's still stalling the same way as
when you picked it up the firsttime. Similar, but a little bit

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Okay, got it, So whathappened now? So I check underneath to
see if there's any fuel leakage,because if the fuel house popped off again,
that should be a parent I don'tsee it. Wait a minute,
it popped off again. No itdid not. So I was able to
get it running because it would start, but I couldn't get it over fifteen
miles per hour. So I decidedto just drive it back very slowly and

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explain to them what happened. Andthey hadn't closed out the work order from
the previous time with the fuel hosepopping off, so they kept it open.
They looked at it, and Iget a call about eight days later
and they say, oh, itwas out of gas. In that eight
days. They told me that theyhad swapped out the fuel pumps again because

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it's under warranty, and the fuelhose was connected and they had fuel pressure
and everything was fine. So Ifigured, Okay, that's embarrassing. You
didn't see that there was no gas. I had assumed the gas tank was
full because the gauge was okay.So so okay, so now after all
of this, paying two grand,now you're out of gas. You got

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gas now? What's going on?Man? Good question. So is it
still screwing up? Absolutely? SoI pick it up and what's it doing?
Now? What's it doing? You'regiving me a great narration, but
what is it doing right now?Just tell me what it's doing. Now.
It's the initial problem that I hadwhen I first brought it. Are

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you wait? Are you kidding me? And this is after they've had it.
You kept taking it back and youstill have the original hard start problem.
Correct. And here's the best part. They told me. No,
they didn't tell me anything. Theydidn't call me for over two weeks.
I called them asking for an update. Now you said, this is Firestone

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in Westminster, right, yes,on for one three one here on streets.
Now, holden, what's weird isfor a while they had fixed the
initial problem, but other problems keptcoming up. Now they addressed those other
problems, and you went back tothe original problem. Correct. I have

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a feeling maybe this is paranoid.Maybe they put the old fuel punk back
in, because now the problem isthe first one. And they gave me
this explanation that it's some sort ofsecurity issue and that if you lock and
unlock it it should start. Andthen I asked the guy, can you
please show me how it works?And he wasn't able to get it started.
Okay, hold on, we gotto get an expert on. Hang

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oh three two three three forty twoforty seven. I'm Tom Martine. Let's
go to the phones and see whatwe can do for you. Okay,
so listen, I got Kevin Colkinshared an autotech. By the way,
they do great maintenance for pairs.They do electrical issues, pre buy inspections
for you cars. I'll give theircontact in a second. But Kevin,

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this is so queer to me.Okay, here's what's going on. Man.
This guy, he has a ninetyfive van Ford E one point fifty,
takes it to Firestone for a hardstart, then he pays two grand.
After that, it wouldn't run.It kept stalling. They fixed that.

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They said a fuel hose was disconnected. It was still stalling after that.
Then they tell him it's out.It was out of gas. So
they they've put gas in it orhe did. Now he has the original
hard start problem, which by theway, they had fixed temporarily, but

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it went back. Does this evenmake sense to you, Kevin, Well,
it's tough because you know the tirestories. They do great maintenance and
other stuff, but repairs and troubleshooting, it's just not there. That's
not there, Forte. So let'sask him a question, Ryan, Is
it the exact same problem that cameback? It feels exactly like the same

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symptom. Yes, Now what thathad gone away for a while? Is
that correct? It seemed to have. Yes. Now, next question,
on your invoice for two thousand dollarsfor the initial repairs. What are the
main things they did for two grand? The main things they did were the
fuel ponds placements and the labor forthat, and the two front brakes.

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They claimed we're at half a millimeterthickness. However, there was no sound
and I stepped on the book.Yeah, but that's okay, that's okay.
You don't want sound, bro,you don't want sound. It's too
late or that's not really too late. But hey, what do you think,
Mark? What do you think's goingon? Boy? I don't I
don't know. We just got tocall over to the Firestone. Who do

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we have in studio? But here'sthe deal, man, Kevin, your
best hunch, anything but the mosttypical in those older fours that have fuel
pressure regulator problems to where the fuelpressure will over pressure eyze and flood the
end of it. So it couldbe intermittent. Sure, Kevin, it

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could be a bunch of things too, right in the fuel system. They
replaced the pump and there's another issueout there. Sure. Yeah, Now
the field pump wouldn't have done whatthey were looking at, stalling and stuff
like that. That's typically not apump. No, No, that was
no. No. The original problemhe took it in for was hard starting.
And Ryan, when you said hardstarting, it wasn't electrical in nature.

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It was more like you cranked itand it didn't start. Well,
it would, it would turn overand they would try to start, but
it wasn't. I don't know ifabout this stuff, but it wasn't actually,
So that's why they did the fuelpump, keV. Sure, sure,
Now it's possible, Ryan, Iwould have a second look from Kevin.
That's what I would do. Yes, I would appreciate that any any

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second opinion, would you? Great, let's do that first before we go
to war and see what the hell'sgoing on. Kevin is at on Colfexious
west of Wadsworth. But I'm goingto give you his number, it's three
oh three, four five, fiveseventy two forty two and just he'll he'll
remember the call this morning and thatshared in auto tech dot com. Okay,

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now let's talk with Let's see who'snext here. I believe it's Patrick.
Hi, Patrick, what's happening?Hey? How are you doing?
Certain good man? What's going onwith you? I called in about five
months ago regarding my dog and abike happened with your dog? What was
it? What was it about?Let me try to find your calls.

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It was the neighbor came out ofthe property and U my dog attacked him.
Oh, they seized my dog andI was going to court back and
force for it, and they calledhim for help, and your viewers they
put a lean on my dog andtook my dog. Your viewers are great.
And Kenneth Manfair called me and triedto pay for the bund and the
dog and I went to the shelter. They refused the payment. They said

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you got to talk to the court. So I went to the court and
this is all within twenty four hours. You called back in November, ma,
bro in November, right, right? Yeah? Yeah, So when
they took your dog to the shelter. You were ticketed for harboring a vicious
dog. Now did you pay theexpenses and get them back? We tried,

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Like I said, your viewers triedto help, and then Kenneth manfair.
But then the state said the statesaid we are in charge. Now.
Well, yeah, they gave himtwo Foothills. So I tried to
pay Foothills. They wouldn't take it. I went to the court. They
refused payment. So where does itstand right now? Patrick? They put

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him down. Oh no, likejust just a few days ago. Wait
a minute. He was there sinceNovember. He was there since October.
Oh my god. And they wouldn'tlet me visit him, and I couldn't
get any I just got railroaded.But what if you were willing to pay

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the expenses? Would they not lethim out because they said he was dangerous?
They refused payment just period. Sowhy did they keep him so long?
Though? Was it for rabies?No? Foothills decided to keep him

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alive until the court case was overand there was a judgment in the court
case. Okay, So what wasthe judgment in the court case? The
possession of an aggressive animal and whereyou found guilty, yes, sir,
And where you fined a certain thingis on the twentieth, it's on Monday.

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What could you actually get from this? I'm appealing it and during the
court Well, what good is appealingit right now? If the dog's dead?
Or do you just not want topay a penalty? No, it's
not that. I just don't wantit to happen to other people because I
think it was wrong what they did. Now, did you defend yourself at
all? Yes? Well did youhave an attorney at all? No?

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Oh? Man, I wish youwhat a good question I got? All
right? One big question I gotis in the last court day, the
guy from Hills was there and Iasked the judge. I said, is
it true that because I know youknow, I'm a lawyer to interpret the
law, I go, can Idestroy your property before the appeals process is
over? And it just says,I don't know. You got to talk

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to a lawyer, go figure out. We're not sure because there's different types
of I would think that if youwere actually did you actually file an appeal?
When did the ruling come down?The ruling came down les ten days
ago, and I filed an appeallast week. So okay, and it

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was destroyed after you filed your appeal. No before, but before I filed
the appeal, they destroyed him thenext day he got the shelter. Wait
a minute, I had to judge. Okay, So they destroyed him the
next day, not after you filedyour appeal. Well maybe they thought that's
because they had a ruling. Theydidn't know you were going to appeal.

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I said in court, I said, I'm appealing this case, judge,
can they destroy your property until theappeals cases over? And I didn't get
a straight answer, so the nextday before. Now it's almost like vindictive,
But I don't know what you cando about it. Patrick, What
kind of dog? He was amassive? Okay? So listen, what

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is your plan right now? Whatis your base? What is your plan
of action? What are you tryingto get. I'm trying to get something
in the appeal process that well goahead. They were able to. I
don't know. Are they able todestroy your property if the appeals Well that's
that's neither here nor there. Whatare you trying to appeal about the dog

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being vicious? How are you goingto do that? If you already lost?
Do you understand what an appeal is. People I think misunderstand what an
appeal is. It's not just thatyou don't like the ruling and you want
them to reconsider. No, that'snot it. What an appeal is is
an error done by the courts,and you're appealing on that issue. What

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basis do you have for an appeal? That's my question is since and how
are you going to afford an appeal? Hold on, Mark? I want
first the question what is the issueyou're appealing? What is the issue you're
appealing that they destroyed my dog beforethe appeal? They destroyed the dog after

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the ruling? What are you appealingabout the ruling? Do you understand what
you're saying. You can't appeal thefact that they killed your dog that happened
after the ruling. Now, ifyou wanted to appeal because they did an

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error in court, something was wrong, they destroyed evidence or something. Listen,
if you win the appeal, thenyou look for civil damages for them
destroying your dog. But what areyou appealing about the case. I'm going
to ask one more time, whatis the issue you feel you have to

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appeal That I requested a jury trialand did not get one. That's not
an appealable thing. That's up tothe judge. Well, hold on,
I don't know if it is ornot. Actually I shouldn't say that.
Wait a minute, I don't knowabout that. Are you saying, why
were you turned down a jury becausethey said I didn't pay a twenty dollars

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fighting feet and there it is,there, it is, there, it
is being there you go, there, you go. Okay, I don't
think you can appeal that. Idon't think you can appeal it, but
you can try. Now Mark's question. Now, Mark's question, how do
you afford the appeal? You couldn'tpay twenty dollars? No, No,
that was an I couldn't. Iwas in the hospital. I had a
pulmonary embolism and I almost died.I was in the hospital. Oh,

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so you couldn't pay for the jury. You couldn't pay for the jury trial
because I couldn't get into file itand pay the fee. I wasn't physically
able. That's not I don't thinkthat's appealable. Listen, Patrick, Patrick,
listen, why would you appeal evenif you win? What do you
think you're going to Let's say youappeal and there's a ruling that they should

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have let you had a jury trial. Now you have it, Now they
reset it for another trial. Whatare you hoping to accomplish in the end.
In the end, I'm hoping toaccomplish that Foothills doesn't have the power
to kill your dog until the processis over. Okay. Now, if
you did, listen carefully, ifyou did an appeal and the judge ordered

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a new trial with a jury,I don't think that'll happen. But if
it did, then you have towin that case. And then after that
case, if it was found that, yes, the dog was not vicious,
then what then? What do youwant? Restitution from pain and suffering?

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Because now you're not going to getthat. Okay. So Patrick,
here's what I'm saying, and you'renot gonna like this. Patrick, you
gotta move on, bro, I'mserious. You got who's pain for all
of this right now? Me?Well, don't you have better things to
do? Well? How about gettinganother dog and starting over. Seriously,

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that dog's gone now, Patrick,I'm not being a pain anything. I'm
curious how the dog wasn't vicious though? How is that? How do you
plan to prove the dog wasn't vicious. How are you gonna do that because
he was only aggressive on private property. It doesn't matter because hey, listen,
a vicious dog or a dangerous dogin Colorado is one that creates bodily

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injury, causes death, or demonstratestendencies that would cause any reasonable person to
believe the dog may inflect injury.It doesn't matter if it happened on private
property or in your bedroom. That'sright, Mark Patrick, Saint Patrick Patrick,
do you understand after going through allof this, even if you won,

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which you can, But even ifyou won that case, first you
have to win the appeal. First, the appeal has to be granted and
won. Then you have to goto court again if you won the appeal,
and then you go before a jury, and then you have to prove
your case. And then if youwin, you have to go for damages.
You're not going to get pain andsuffering. Why are you really?

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You're a Patrick. You're angry becauseyou lost your dog. I would be
angry too, but please, youare not a stupid person. Do you
see the folly in what you're doing? Do you see it's not going to
change anything at all. It's notgoing to bring you any satisfaction or money.
You're simply going to be broke,more broke than you are where you

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could just instead of doing that,get another dog and move on. How
about that. I just want itto help another people with. Okay,
So you're going to spend all ofyour time and money to crusade for other
people. Here's what I'm going totell you. Even if you want money,
Patrick, even if you won,it will not change one thing for

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anyone else. Do you feel thisruling is going to be published all over
the state and country and somehow Patrickis going to change the way they do
this from here on out. Doyou really believe, really, Patrick,
do you believe that this crusade isgoing to pay off? I have no
idea. Then please move on.I mean, don't don't spend your life

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fighting and josty at windmills. Justdo it. Go ahead and do it.
I'm Tom Martine. Hey, I'mTom Martina, Troubleshooter three oh three
seven one three talks seven one three, eight two five five. Let's talk

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Dan. What's going on with yourstreet? Dan? Okay? Am I
on? Yes, sir, youare all right? Well? First of
all, Tom Martino, God I'veknown you as a radio guy and I
ran into you one swing across thestreet on Broadway. You were going to
get a gear roll that was athousand years old. Oh my god,

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that was the economy, the Greekeconomy, deli across from Channel four.
God, I'm telling you what.I'm telling you what anyway? Uh you
know what? What can I say? You sound the same, You've got
the same energy level. Good onyou, buddy, and thank you.
I must say, though you becomea kinder, gentler Tom Martino. That's

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because hold on, I'm making roomfor Mark, because there's there's not enough
room for two hot heads. Anyway. The point is because you were You
were nice and kind with the guywho lost his puppy back in the day.
He'd have been gone anyway. Well, actually, I wasn't that kind.
I mean, the guy's an idiotfor wanting to get you. Got
to draw out the nutcases. Imean, you know, I mean,

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I mean he's burning up radio time. Let me get to my issues.
Go ahead, sir, okay,trust me. In the forty years that
I've been I've known you your show, and you I've only called you probably
three times in the whole time isthe most important, all right, And
we're talking about a life and deathsituation involving children. Okay, here's the

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situation. Visualize Mississippian Chambers. Uh, Mississippi Chamber is the intersection. There's
a shopping mall on the north side. On the northeast side, there's a
McDonald's or the Jaccalito mess rector ofI'm looking it up. So it's Mississippian
Chambers, yes, okay, notthe story's school there and there's another school
they say it's called Granada. Okay, Mark, are you looking it up

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to online? Go ahead, goahead, sir, so all right.
So anyway, and of course therewas a seven eleven there, which recently
got closed. At any rate,there's only one entrance at the seven eleven
entrance, which was the you know, the gas station of the seven eleven,
and then you continue down and onyour on your left is a dollar

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store and next to that is theschool above. I'm looking at it all
so, now help me. Whatam I seeing? That's bad? Exactly?
Well what you're looking at, well, you got to look at it
during the time the children come toschool and the time they leave. It
runs right up against rush hour,and here are these moms. I don't

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see the Monassori school exactly on thatcorner. But no, no, it's
not on the corner. It's backin the next to the door store.
Okay, you know that's neither herenor there. You know, you'll you'll,
we'll tell. Okay, I'm sorry, what's dangerous? I'm sorry?
Well the danger yeah, all right? Uh once again, you know what

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it looks like when when when whenparents are bringing their kids to any school,
you know, there's there's dozens ofcars all turning the same way and
they're sacked up. Now, thisis happening on Mississippi with three lanes going
east, three lanes going west,and people are trying to go into that.
The bottom line is just shacking up. There have been numerous accidents there.
Just yesterday. I'm sitting facing uhnorth on Dallid, which is you

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know, right the street that thatthat intersects at. And because the cars
are stacked up, you know,the parents are getting frustrated and they don't
know why the person is not moving. They kind of hunk, they kind
of And this happens everywhere. Idon't care what you're saying, man,
it happens again again. Uh,there's been numerous accidents there. And my

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point is, I challenge your youhave a great staff. I challenge you
folks on your way to work.If anybody's over in a law Chambers of
Mississippi, be there and just parkand watch. Yeah, what's time to
do? What time would we seestaff? What time would we see it?
Uh? You know in the morningseven o'clock, eight o'clock when the
kids going to school. And thenlet me ask you something on what kissing

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go lane time? They're everywhere.Listen, if we look at you not
understand. Okay, again, youhave to believe me. You have to
see this, Tom. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't. Wait.
No, no, listen, man, I'm not discounting what you're saying.
We're just trying to clarify. IfI look at this intersection, we
have north, south, east,and west. Where is on what what

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quadrant is the school? Oh?Oh, I see what you're saying.
No, it's not on the intersectionof Mississippi and Chambers. Go east,
go down, look east. Thenthere's the where you turn into the seven
eleven off of Mississippi. That's thesame route the parents' sake, because their

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school is straight down. And howfar down is that? I'm sorry?
How far down is from the intersection? Oh you mean from Mississippi and Chambers?
Yeah? Right, Just just lookdown. And if you had the
map that you said to go east, how far bro how far? Oh?
Oh? What? Not even aquarter mile? Okay? So I

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know what you're saying. Okay,go to Idallia. Do you see the
roet of Dahia? Well I will, but yes, I see the Idealia.
Yes, okay, great Now Thepoint is all of that that little
tight so there. I know they'restacked up there and they're wanting to turn
on Dahlia. Is that right?Okay? So well hold on, What
would you do then? Close theschool? What would you do? That's
what I'm getting at. What dowe do about okay? What do we

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do about it? You know againthat's up to the people who get paid
to to do traffic engineering. Thepoint is all I'm saying is there's been
numerous accidents. Yees, have anykids ever been hurt? I don't know
the results of the injuries. Ido know that one instance, which was

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a few months ago, a carActually, if you'll continue looking down,
and you'll see there's the creek.And something happened on that intersection and the
car got pushed out off the streetand went in between the lanes and over
the creek, went in between thebridge, down into the water, face
down, Trump facing up fire trucksusing a hook, trying to lift the

(31:37):
car in between. Please tell Okay, by the way, I am looking
at this area where the Montessori schoolis, and what he's talking about is
Mississippi in the street. And allI can say is, I don't see
how they can change it. Idon't know what you do about it.

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That's the main issue, not thatit may not be dangerous. I don't
know what you do about it.Dan, if you have any suggestions,
hang on and just give us specificexamples of what you would do. I'm
also gonna go to Marino, Mohanand Jay coming up. Yeah, ripped

(32:25):
up bad news. You need advice, so you don't have come running.
Just as fast as we can,show Shooter's gonna help comeing Man Dix is
the Troubleshooter Show. No, TomMartine, Hey, I'm Tom Martino.

(32:46):
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go back quickly. You have acomment on a guy that called in about
his, uh, his van.He was just very upset because he said
that he had this starting problem andand he took it to Firestone, Westminster,

(33:52):
and he screwed around with them,spent two grand blah blah blah.
Anyway, he's gonna have it lookedat. What is your comment, Well,
they might have been on the rightpath, but here's goes back to
keep your parts, keep your oldparts. Here's why on his van,
there's when you replace a fuel pump, you can put a fuel pump in

(34:12):
it, or you can put awhole unit in there. Here's a big
difference on a ninety five. Tellme what you mean by a whole unit,
Jay. The whole unit comes witha new fuel saw to pick up
tube as sending unit for the fuelgauge. It has a new check valve
in it and a new little electricmotor which is the pump. Now,
you can also take two little hosesloose, put a brand new electric motor

(34:37):
in there, which is the pump, and have a brand new fuel pump.
But those commonly have a problem,really common where the check valve inside
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(34:58):
to build pressure. Oh that's genius. How long have you been How long
were you in the car? Biz? Oh? Most all of my life?
Really? I mean, Jay,I I recognize you from your comments.
That's that is That is such agreat explanation of how it drains back
and causes a lack of fuel pressureand basically you end up having to prime

(35:21):
it again. But I mean,for lack of a better word, wow,
thank you, Jay. I hopehe's listening on that one, and
I'm sure Kevin Caulkon will find it, but thank you. Three oh three
seven one three eight two five five. So listen, here's the deal.
I looked at this intersection and theMontessori school and I can see where you

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know, people will be turning inoff of Mississippi and could cause a problem.
But I don't see an answer.And all I'm going to ask,
I'm not going to belabor this,Dan, if you have specific recommendations,
what are they? Number One,the responsibility falls to the school because the

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school is where they're going, andso what what can they do about them?
An agency? What can they doabout it? If there's a school,
if I can, if I can, if I can finish my point.
The school needs to communicate to theirstudent body and the parents and give
them some instruction on this. Eitherdon't use that intersection. They can.

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They can come down to Mississippi andChambers, take a rite and then turn
into the bank right behind the McDonald'sand get in there safely. Yeah,
I'm sure the bank would love that. No. No, no, the
bank is on the side. No, no, it has nothing to do
with the bank. It's a commonstreet. Again. That's all I have
to say. And my point,Tom is that as I say, I've

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seen what you've done over the years, and you know, I challenge you
or your staff to sit there andthen you'll get the You'll get the urgency,
the urgency of all of this becausewe're talking about children who are being
forced, you know, to goto this. Everybody have to have to
take your child to school, soyou know the I'm wondering why other I'm

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wondering why parents have not complained aboutit, Dan, exactly exactly. Listen,
when I was waiting during your herdbreaks, I was saying the same
thing. Am I the only personthat has has said this? And you
asked me about accidents? I don'tknow how to track the accidents at that
inter section, but you do andyou can get that information. And I'm
so can you can and that isthrough the police department. It's that easy.

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Well again, my I'll leave youwith this, sir. I don't
want to take your radio time.I'll leave you with this. First of
all, once again, nice talkingwith you. The point, yes,
sir, you or your staff getthere during the entrance or the extra Why
what could we possibly change down?I'm telling you again, you will see

(38:04):
what I mean when you do it. I okay, it's the worst thing
I've ever seen in my life.Now what Dan, what he's saying is,
even if we observe it, whatdo you think will change it?
Like like, I don't think theschool. The school could put up a
memo saying this is the traffic pattern. I've seen other schools that do that.
They'll say, please don't turn onthis street, please use this street,

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please do this yes, yes,okay, no, okay, I
see okay, So I see whereyou're going with this. So let me
let me go down the road abit further with this. Oh my god,
man, Hey, Dan, Ican't Dan well, And this is
such a Dan, then Dan,Dan, this is such a local I
can't I can't take up time todo it. What you need to do

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is email Dan, Bro. Thisthis does not affect ninety nine point of
my audience. So what you cando is email me, and I swear
to God I will look at itand forward it to the school. I
will, Okay, But here's thedeal, Bro, I just can't take
the time to talk about redirecting thetraffic flow for a school on an intersection

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when no one has the power todo that. The school can ask parents
to please abide by this traffic pattern. I wouldn't be surprised if they already
do it. I don't know,but I just email me, okay,
email me what you think instead oftaking up the radio time for it.
I'm serious. I appreciate that youcare, but there's not much really other

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people are going to care listening tothis at this point. Now, Marina,
what's going on with you? Hi? Marina, what's happening? Hi?
Tom? Hey, what's happening?I am getting married on July seventh,
and we had rented a VRBO likein February for our party and they

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were going to allow us to haveyou fifty to sixty people. Well,
we went to go look at theplaces. One Sea Barn. When we
went to go look at it,it had a mildew smell in the basement,
really bad. So you reserve theVRBO in February for use in July.
Yep. And so, and youinspected it when it was in April,

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and then in April when you inspectedit in April, that's when you
found it to be mildewy. Yep. And this is just besides the point.
It's going to lead up to whatWell, I'm sorry, keep going,
then keep going yep. So anyway, what happened is we brought it
to their attention and we said,hey, have you been in there.

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It smells mildewy. Our kids aregoing to be down in that basement sleeping.
We think that they were offended,and they canceled our reservation. They
said it's not a good fit forus. Is this the owners that did
this? Yep? Sure sure was. So that was April twenty third,
and remember we're getting married July seventh, So I had to take twowo days

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to find another place for our weddingreception. Wait, you were going to
have your whole reception. You weregoing to have your whole reception in this
house. Yep, it was aparty, So you would have freaked me
out too. Just as a sidenote, if you called me up and
you were going to remind allies andyou start talking about mold and children,
I tell you to hit the bricks. You know. I think they just

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are afraid of liability and all that. So what happened then? So then
what happened is that they cancel iton the twenty third. Took me two
days to find another place for ourwedding party. Yeah, I get it.
Okay. I found the Monarch Hotel, you know, the casino,
and we rented the balcony signature suite, made the reservations, let them know

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that we were going to have fiftyto six. So that whole other story
had nothing to do with the problem. It's a timeline thing, is what.
Okay, got it. So youswitched to Monarch for the reception,
and you did that in April yep, April twenty sixth is when we did
our reservation. Okay, got it? So now keep going. Then what

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they said there was no problem havingfifty to sixty people in that balcony signature
suite. So we then changed allof our invitations for all of our party
to let them know they reserved theirrooms to stay at the Monarch. And
then we go to inspect that,you know, to go check it out
and for decorations. And we wentwith the event planner and she said that

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was fine. Fifty to sixty people, no big deal. Then ten days
later we get a call from thedirector of hotel operations, Nicky, and
she said that we could not havefifty to sixty people in that twenty two
hundred square foot room and that sodid they cancel. And what they did
is then they let us go tothe Penthouse. They were going to upstrade

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us to the Penthouse no extra charge, which was awesome, and they said
that there there's no problem with fiftyto sixty people. Then we went and
looked at the Penthouse with the directorof sales. Her name's Paper, and
we went and looked at it.I'm wondering if there's an end to the
story, keep going though, Imean, and I understand that you want

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to give me every single detail.Okay, so did the penthouse workout or
not? Well? No, longstory short, So they canceled our reservation.
They said, then wait, wait, wait, why did hold on?
I thought you said they were goingto upgrade you to the penthouse.
That's exactly what happened. And thenthey then why was it canceled? They

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said that that was too many people. They could only have twenty one people
in that penthouse and it's a verylarge room. Well hold on, but
they knew you were going to havefifty to sixty, right exactly. That's
why we need your advice, sohold on. They can't so wait a
minute, wait a minute. Thehotel made a reservation for you, and
then change and called and said,we can't have you in the original room

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you booked. Now you have togo to the penthouse. But the penthouse
we can't have you there either.Why would they even recommend an upgrade to
the penthouse if the same number ofpeople. I don't understand. You can
only have fifteen or twenty in theoriginal room, and in the penthouse you
can only have fifteen or twenty.Why would they bother switching you at all?

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Why not just cancel? Exactly?That is our problem. Well hold
on, Well you have to youknow, you're the one telling the story.
Maria, Marina, I need toknow when they called you and said
you can't you can't have your receptionin the original room because there are too
many people. However, we're goingto move you to another room and there

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will still be too many people.Now didn't you say, well, wait
a minute, that doesn't make sense. Trust me, We've gone back and
they must have listened. They musthave given you some idea. Why did
the fire department get involved? Theymust have told you something. They did.
They said that that was just toomany people for that room, and

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they said that there can only beone person every fifteenth Okay, okay,
so Marina Marina, So the samenumber of people are accommodated in the original
room and in the penthouse. Right, yes, So by upgrading you did
not do you any good? Rightno? So okay, so now you're

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canceled. You're canceled. Well,one thing I can tell you for sure.
They can't. You don't have acontract. Now now wait, hold
on, did you have to pay? Did you did money? Did money
exchange hands? Yes, we paidmoney for the original room? Really?
And did it did it specify howmany people? Did you have a contract?

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We didn't sign a contra. Butwe did mention many times at phone
records. Yeah, it doesn't matterif you mentioned stuff. I mean,
listen, I don't know if youhad a contract or not. That's the
story. But I don't know ifyou had a contract or not. But
I got some suggestions coming right up. Hold on him, Tom Martino here

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three h three seven one three talkseven one three A two five five Marina.
I can't decide if you had acontract or not. It doesn't sound
like one. It sounds like anormal reservation. But let me explain what
they did. Send us an emailgiving us an upgrade to the penthouse,
offering all of our guests that werestaying there a twenty five dollars amenity.

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So people have booked this hotel.Our wedding is less than two months.
We were told by the Marina salesdirector in hotel. I'm going to say
that. I'll say the same thingagain in case you didn't hear me.
I am not sure if you hada contract or not. I am thinking
you did not. That's just mythought. But were they all going to

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sleep there? No? No,no, just my husband and I were
going to sleep there? Now,Okay, I do think you had some
kind of reliance and there could bea consequence to them doing this, if
it could, if it was deemedunconscionable, they should have told you sooner.
It's too late. Here's the thing. You're obligated to try to mitigate

(47:29):
any damages, so to try tofind another place for a venue. And
at the same time, I'm notsure what damages you would have against them.
Okay, I'm not sure. I'msaying that, do you have a
breach of contract? How much werethey going to charge for this venue?

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It was like four thousand dollars.Are you bringing in all of your own
food on it? Well, that'sthe other problem. We have a cater
we had a DJ. All thisis non fundable. Ye no, wait
wait a caterer and a DJ.But you still have a caterer and a
DJ. Well, now we don'thave a place to have our wedding in
it. I'm not I didn't saythat, but you did not cancel the

(48:12):
caterer yet or the DJ. Isthat correct? Exactly? It's non refundable,
But we don't have a place.It's a marina. Do they don't
have to tell me you don't havea place. I understand that you have
everything except a place. So whatyou need is a place. What I'm
saying to you is you have anobligation to try to mitigate damages. What

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we need to figure out is theywere going to charge you four thousand dollars
for that venue. Okay, Iunderstand, and now they say they can't
do it. My question is this, do they have anywhere in that hotel
that can accommodate fifty guests? Theydo their banquet room, but it's not

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that's not something that we want that. It's not more of a meeting room.
So did they hold on, Marina, I'm not asking if you want
it or not. Did they offeryou any alternative? They offered us that,
but they wanted to cater it themselves, and we'd also have to pay
for a bartender. We already havethat we've already So Maria, if you

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took that other option, they wouldnot allow you to have the caterer you
already paid exactly. Well, thenthat would be a loss. You can't
do that. What about this?How much? Did how much did you
pay for that venue? And arethey refunding it? They will refund it,

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okay, So forth, have youtried to look for a place for
fifty people. I did, andthere's nothing available except for really expensive places.
It's so like, how much more? How much more would it cost?
There's places that would be like tenthousand dollars? Okay, and you

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were prepared to pay four Is thatright? Exactly? Okay? Now one
of the things you could do isnow, again, I'm not sure if
you have a binding contract or adetrimental reliance, what happens if the reason
is whoever rented it out to ordidn't realize it's against fire code. I
mean, I would assume that's anout on their side for the contract.

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Well, if it was a contract, it may not be an out,
because just because they made a mistake, it would be they'd have to do
something. But I don't know theyeven had a contract. I guess what
I'm saying is this, you needto find a place. If you can't
find a place, now you've gota big problem. But you understand,
Marina, there's going to be alimit to your damages. You're not just

(50:51):
going to be able to say,well, now you owe me for this,
and you owe me for that,and you owe me for this,
and now I got to change mywedding. And I mean, just so
you know there, you don't justgo to the candy store now start collecting,
even if you had a contract.But I don't even know if you
did. Now we can talk toan attorney to see what they think.
You know, having a contract,then you would have a break it in

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order to even do that. Timewe got to see what the hell she
signed that we didn't shine anything.That's the problem. Well, then you
don't have a contract. She signedan email mark and we had this discussion
once before. Is as restaurantract?Yeah, and I don't think a reservation
is a contract unless she didn't.You say you exchange money. We did

(51:39):
know they did gave money. Ohwait, you did. He gave us
a proposal with all these things thatthey were going to give to us for
our guests and for ourselves for them. Let's you know what, Let's get
let's get an attorney on I'm seriousto talk about the elements of a contract
to see what. But I wantto ask you a quote. Let me

(51:59):
ask a question real quick. Whenyou talked about the other place with the
mold smell or the mold, yousaid the kids would be sleeping in the
basement. Now all of a sudden, it's only you and you are soon
to be a husband. That wouldbe in the suite. So where the
kids going to sleep? Oh,they're going to have hotels at the Monarch.
We already booked all their hotel rooms. They'd yeah, they're older kids,

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they're older kids. Oh, Iget it, okay, So listen
the hotel rooms and our guests.There's about twelve also hotel rooms. Okay,
and they're coming in from out ofstate. They did they say because
it was their screw up, orthey didn't tell you right away and they

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waited ten days? Did they say? What do you think they would relent
on the catering thing? Do youthink they would let you use your own
caterer in that banquet room? Theysaid that they they it was against hotel
policies that they have cater it there. But Tom, we don't want that.
It's a meeting room. It's notit's not a nice I get what

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you're saying. No, I getwhat you're saying. I just don't.
I don't know why when you bookedit, if they knew there were fifty
people, why they one realized probablyhotel management, you can't have that many
people in that room because of firecode that they did they offer any By

(53:27):
the way, why would they letyou rent a suite and have a caterer
but not the banquet room and havea caterer. I don't understand that part.
If it's against policy to bring foodin, why would it be okay
in the suite that you rented.You know, we had so many different
stories told to us by the directorof sales, the director of hotel operations,
and the event manager. These areall the three people that told us

(53:51):
it would be okay to have fiftyto sixty people in that balcony signature suite.
And this Marina, those are thepeople that Marina. Marina, you
keep bringing up the same stuff overand over and over, and all I
asked was this, No, No, Marina, I know you're upset.
Hold on, I'm asking you this. Did they know you were going to

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have your own caterer in that room? Yes? They did? Okay,
Now what about this? What?I think there's a few ways to approach
it, depending on how strong ofa case you think you have. You
keep referencing emails and reliance and allof that, so you could book a
more expensive place and then sue themin small claims court for the difference,

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saying that you had no choice butto pay more if it's going to be
comparable. But you don't get tojust go out and find a taj mahal
and say they have to pay forit. But it wouldn't be unreasonable to
expect them to help you get anotherplace. How do you know that without
seeing anything she signed? Mar Ijust said, and I said it a

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million times, I don't know ifshe has a contract or if she would
prevail. What I said was youcould rent a more expensive place and then
go after them for the difference.I did not say she would win,

(55:22):
nor did I say she had acontract. But that is one option to
consider. That's all I'm saying.So you're no one's going to know how
you're saying she's got a contract.What's that you're saying she's got a contract?
YEA, yeah, you're right.Okay, Now listen, Marina.
What I want to do is Iwant to get an attorney on for an

(55:44):
opinion. That's the least we cando and see what they think. I
just I just don't think you havea contract. Maybe you do, but
I think that you definitely have aproblem, and you would think the monarch
would do more to at least helpyou out of it. And in fact,
I would like Deputy Doc in thestudio to call Marnark and say,

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hey, you know this kind ofisn't fair. You know you might be
able to do something. Do theyhave adjoining suites where they would allow this
many people or not? No,penthouse was the largest, like over twenty
two hundred score feet and how manyokay for the penthouse, how many people
would they let in? Twenty one? So we'd have to alternate, is

(56:25):
what they said? Twenty one peopleallowed, and then those people would have
to leave our party. Yes,then we can allow. Do they have
two penthouses that could be adjoined.I don't believe, so, I don't
know if they're a joined or not. Hey, Deputy Doc, would you
call them? I'm serious. Ifyou have the name of the director of
sales, Marina, we want tocall them. Three oh three seven one

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three eight two five five. Hi, Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three oz
three seven one three talk seven onethree eight two five five. Welcome to
the show. Now, Daniel hasan issue. By the way, are

(57:10):
we going to get an attorney onfor that? I mean she hung up,
but I want to get an attorneyon to talk about that. Did
you get her number or did shejust hang up? I want a deputy
doc to call up there as well. Uh, did you get her information?
Does she know we're working on this? Yes? So I gave her
information to deputy doc. And he'sactually making a call to Monarch right now.

(57:30):
I mean, I think it's wortha question or not it excuse me,
an inquiry or two. I mean, this woman's under pressure, she's
getting married. Daniel, what's goingon with you? Daniel? Welcome to
the show and anyone else who hasa problem, question or complaint U three
zero three seven to one to threetalk seven one three eight two five five.
It's just good to bounce stuff aroundlike this for people. What's going

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on? Daniel? Hey, Tom, thanks for taking my call. I'm
having an issue with a contractor afterlast years. What's going on? So
it was basically long story endless.You know, a roof, gutters,
paint, and some garage doors,normal hail damage stuff. Oh it was
all hail damage. Okay, Andwhere'd you find the place? The people

(58:12):
to do it. One of myfriends that used these people before. And
you know, I just called themand they came over. So and okay,
and who is it? Did youactually contract with them? Yes?
They did, And who is it? It was a Storm Solutions LLC.
Storm Solutions Okay, and they doeverything. Yeah. I signed a contract

(58:37):
with them that they would take careof the full scope of my insurance claim.
When did you do that? Youknow that was back in the stormers
in June. So I think Julyor August okay of twenty three, of
course, right, yeah, justlast year. Yeah, Okay, listen,
one thing I wanted to say thatone thing I wanted to bring up

(58:58):
that sounded a little danger to me. They said something about they'll handle the
insurance. Tell me how they wordedthat. I mean, they didn't specify
specifically what you get and how much? Uh yeah, so they did essentially
they didn't want to include it originallythe agent and I said, every damage

(59:21):
that is included in my insurance claimnumbered you know, X, y Z
will be covered for the amount,you know, the amount the insurance company
will pay plus you know, whenthey when they go back and ask for
me, Daniel or Daniels or something. Daniel, Yeah, I'm asking.
Did they say you need siding,you need roofing, you need this,

(59:42):
you need that, or did theysay whatever your insurance company says. They
they agreed with what the insurance companysaid. So yes, they said I
needed paint. Did they wait?Did they do your estimate before the adjuster
or after the adjuster? They didit concurrently. I scheduled it, so
the adjuster came up. Okay,Daniel, let me just say this for

(01:00:05):
people you didn't call in to geta ration of crap. But let me
say this for people listening, neverever, ever do what Daniel did.
Ever, you will screw yourself everytime. Now here's what I want to
tell people listening, and then I'llget to your problem. Never do it.
If you have the adjuster and thecontractor work together, you will never

(01:00:27):
know ever if you got what youreally needed or if they cheaped out,
Because a contractor who wants a juicyinsurance job would meet with an adjuster and
they'll make deals. The contractor.Let's say, if you called out a
contractor on their own, they maylook at the job and think you need
this, and you need this,and you need this and you need this

(01:00:52):
call it a bushel, a bushelof things that you need because the contractor
is looking at it from a purecontracting standpoint of what needs to be done.
Now, instead of doing that,you have the contractor come out with
the adjuster or after the adjuster.Now you have a different situation. Now

(01:01:15):
the contractor's thinking, I want thisjob, so I'm going to make the
adjuster happy. So instead of gettingthis bushel of things that you need,
he's going to parse it down andyou're going to get a half a bushel
because he wants the job. Sothe adjuster and the contractor come to an
agreement, and now you never knowwhat you were supposed to get or not,

(01:01:42):
because instead of having an advocate onyour side, you now have two
people working to get the job doneon their terms. So people listening never
do what Daniel did. When itcomes to having a contractor. You make
the contractor or the roofer. Youmake them commit themselves to what they believe

(01:02:07):
you need and how much it willcost. Why is that? Because guests
want if it won't cost as muchas your insurance company is willing to pay,
you get extra money if it's goingto cost more then you're gonna ask
the insurance for more money. Sonever do that. Now we're gonna come
back and talk about a specific problemright after this. Hi, Tom Martine

(01:02:36):
here three oh three seven one threetalks seven one three eight two five five.
Welcome to the show. And uh, let's go back to Daniel.
Daniel, I don't want to runout of time, so I'm gonna take
I'm gonna keep you, so goahead and tell us what happened with the
contractor. Go ahead, So,Tom, the quick and dirty of it
is, we weren't done with thepainting yet, they got weather it out.

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There's a little touchup to do.Yeah, and he wanted his a
couple of cash value check. Hewanted to check from the insurance to come
in. He he signed the formfor me saying the work was complete,
sent it in. So I gota check and I had no idea.
I didn't. I purposely didn't signit because he didn't Finny. Wait,
wait, he forged your name.Yes, that's why I'm calling wow.

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And so he got the check.The real cut, Well, well here's
the real problem. The real problem. Well, let me look what the
problem was. There was still anopen issue with my garage door. They
found two panels that were damaged.They're going to pay for him. My
painter says, hey, look Ipainted a darker color. This whole door
is dented. You could what youshould submit and have every panel changed.
I said, great. I calledthem. They got the ball rolling.

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He forges my name, sends itin, sends it's all done. So
now I'm not getting the garage doorout of the deal. Forges my name,
Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Danielhold on. We got two isshes.
Yeah, we got two issues here. We have the garage door and
then we have the paint. Thosewere the only two things not done.

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Paint done. They came out andthey finished it the day. Okay,
okay, after they forged your name. What I was going to say is
the real harm would be if theyclaimed it was done and did not finish
it. But they claimed it wasdone. I know it's wrong, but
they claimed it was done before itwas done. Then they came out and

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finished it, so the painting wasfinished. Correct, correct? Okay,
Now, as far as the garagedoor, was that garage door noted when
your adjuster and the contractor got togetherand came out. Originally Yes, they
found three panels out of the seventhat were damaged. And so the adjuster

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and the contractor acknowledged that up front. Is that right? Better? Correct?
Well, you said you had acontract saying they would fix whatever was
wrong. That's true. So youcan go to your insurance or you can
go to a contractor. You havea contract that says whatever the insurance company

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says, so enforce it. Holdon. If I'm getting something wrong,
Yeah, ripped off bad news.You need advice, so you don't have
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All right, Now, hey,have you Daniel like? Have you have
you seen this gas that's coming?What do you mean, Mark? Well,
starting in July, it looks likeour gas prices could go up fifty
one cent somewhere around there. Somepeople are saying a little less. Some
people are even saying a dollar agallon because not only the summer fuel blend

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is coming, but the EPA hasmandated that we change over to this new
ass starting July. Once again,that's called god. I can't even I'm
trying to find it here, reformulatedgasoline because we have such bad emissions in

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Denver. So there's some place justwait, wait, Mark, is it
just Denver? Well, that's thepart. It looks like it's the front
range. But if you live likeit looked like even El Paso County was
involved. But if you go tothe western slope it appears as if it's
not. I can't quite tell who'sgot to do it and who doesn't.
But can you imagine literally having ajump of fifty cents to a dollar in

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some areas? But then you drivefive or six miles and it's fifty cents
or a dollar less. That wouldcompletely crush businesses. Wow, and you
don't have to worry about it,smart ass. I don't know if that's
true, man, that's the problem. I can't I can't figure out who
has it or not. And rightnow I'm looking it KDIVR article. I

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mean, this is happening in afew weeks, man. Yes, here's
what's crazy. It's a cleaner theycall it a cleaner fuel blended to emit
fewer smog ingredients. More than justoxygen oxygenated fuel. It's more than that.
They have other additives, and it'srequired in high ozone areas. So

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wherever there's a high ozone area,they are going to force this blend on
us. And it will be fiftycents to one dollar more more, not
just fifty yes, per gallon,fifty cents to a dollar more. And
it begins June first to September fifteenthin affected areas. Now, and it

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says the EPA downgraded the Front Rangemetro area as a severe violator of ozone
pollution standards. Now, Governor JaredPolis, of course, who is the
uh? Nevermind I don't want toget into it. Well, he's against
it, he's trying to get away. That's right, that's right. The

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evil twin of Gavin Newsom is actuallyfighting this, and well not fighting it,
he's asking them to reconsider. Imean, that's not a joke,
man, You're talking twenty to thirtypercent higher. That's just it's unfathomable.
Yeah it is. Now let's goback to Daniel. Now, Daniel had
the contractor come to do some stormdamage. To make a long story short,

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it's really very simple. The contractormet with the adjuster. They agreed
on a contract of everything wrong.They noted the garage door was dented,
and let's just get right to it. Okay, the garage door wasn't replaced
or the panels, so it wason the original estimate. Your insurance agreed
to it, the contractor agreed toit. Get it done. I mean,

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it's that simple, Daniel, withoutoverthinking this. No, no,
we're missing one part. We're justmissing one part. The part is where
they found the additional damage. They'regoing to place all the doors that here
that was open. I called myagent, she said, I'm going to
look at it. I'll get backto you this week. While she was

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looking at it, he forged myname and sent it in that the work
was complete. When I talked toher, she said, oh, I
dismissed that because you just sent methe paperwork. Okay, I got it
all right. Yeah, so nowyou didn't do it. He did it.
You didn't do it. He didit. Now that document that was
sent in, I thought you saidwas only about the painting, but it

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said all work was complete. Correct. It says everything is done, We're
done. Send us to now,Daniel. I want to know something.
When he sent this document in thecontractor, did they get paid? Yes?
Okay, So why did you Here'swhat I need to know. Why
did you assign the claim to thecontractor? I know all the checks came

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to me. I didn't sign itcompletely, okay, So then so then
why did you pay the contractor thefinal check? Then I have not paid
him the final check you told me, you told okay, I'm going crazy.
You told me he got the firstcheck, then he signed and said
everything was complete and got the secondcheck. Did you tell me that?

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No, they sent me the secondcheck the first okay, good, excellent,
So you have the second check checkgreater. No, the second check
came into a couple of cash value, but to the paint and the gutter.
Daniel, Yeah, Daniel, Okay, So how much total has the

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contractor been paid so far? Abouteighteen thousand dollars? How much do you
owe him if everything was complete?How much do you owe him? Twenty
four thousand dollars? Okay, Sofor the for the money left, you
have the check, right, Yes, I have the money. That's fine,

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it's no issuet. What's that?Yeah? I have the check.
How much is the second check?How much is the second check of eighteen
thousand and yeah? So it's twentythousand dollars. Yeah, that's what the
turnout to me. Okay, soyou've got check. Daniel. You talk

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in four tongue because I don't understandyou. Okay, you said the whole
job, the entire job was bidout at how much it began at thirty
two thousand and went up? Okay, never mind your your your figures makes
sense, Okay, I got it. Okay, So he's been paid eighteen
and you got another twenty right correct? Okay, Well it's very simple.

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What you do is get the garageif he won't fix the garage, get
it fixed, and deduct it fromthe twenty That's what I was what I
was thinking. I was gonna say, what would you do in my situation?
That's exactly what I would do.You're in charge at your house.
If if it's on the original insuranceclaim and he didn't do it, if

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he won't do it, get someoneelse to do it and pay them.
That's it. Yeah. But theproblem is that got canceled by the insurance
because he forged the document. Whatgot canceled, what got canceled. The
rest of the garage doors that weredamaged. He was going to replace all
the garage doors are going to damage, so those need to be replaced ongoing.

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Daniel forged it, and that's whatthey took away. Okay, Dan,
you don't understand. Daniel. Look, I totally understand. And what
I'm saying is this, Your twentythousand will more than replace those doors,
right? Is that right? Correct? Okay? And then the balance will
go to the contractor what am Inot understanding? What do I do about

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this forging of beeps of my nameon a document? And I'm worried about
the insurance implications because that's fraud inmy name. Well, first, first
and foremost, okay, first andforemost, you're not a party to it.
You're not. You're not in aposition to do anything because it didn't
harm you. Your insurance company isthe one that was harmed. Your insurance

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and the contractor was harmed. Becauseyou're going to take that twenty and you're
going to pay for your garage doorsa reasonable price. You're going to pay
whatever the insurance was going to pay. You're going to take out of that
twenty, and then you're going togive the balance to the contractor and let
the insurance company deal with the forgery. When you say the deal, you

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know, I don't. I amnot seeing what you're seeing. You got
the money to fix your garage yours. If the contractor wants that entire twenty
it ain't. That's the thing.No, No, I didn't have the
money. That's why if they didn'tgive me the full money to fix all
the garages, they gave me tosix three panels. It's I'm gonna say
this again, Daniel. You havea check right now for twenty grand Is

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that correct or not? Yeah?Okay? Is that an Daniel? Is
that twenty enough? To pay forthe garage doors. Of course it is
you know that, okay? Andwill you have money left over? Cause
that money, that money is tobe sent to the contractor. Now here's

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what you're saying. What if Iwas, what would you say to the
contractor? That's what I'm calling,okay, I would say to the contractor.
I would say to the contractor,I am subtracting from the last check
work that you left undone. Andthe contractor is going to say this,

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well, Daniel, I had asupplement going and I was going to get
more than twenty. I was goingto get twenty for the work done,
and there was some extra money forthe doors. And you're going to say,
well, you deal with the insurancecompany because you forged it. You're
not going to get that now theycanceled it. Now if you're telling me,

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I thought originally what you were sayingis this in a perfect world.
In a perfect world, what wouldhave happened is you would have told your
insurance that the doors still have tobe done. The insurance may have had
a little more than twenty. Yougot the twenty, maybe there would be
another three or four grand they wouldhave paid on top of the twenty.

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But theoretically all of that money wouldhave gone to the contractor in a perfect
world. But because the supple mentalclaim was canceled due to the forgery,
all you got was the twenty.So now you have to take matters into
your own hands and fix that garagedoor or the doors and give the contractor

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the balance. Okay, it's thateasy. Now the contractor is going to
say, wait a minute, whatabout my supplemental claim for the other doors,
And you're going to say, that'son you because my insurance company canceled
the supplement because you forged the form. The contractor will suffer for forging the
form. Okay, just by notgetting the money. Essentially, the insurance

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well, they're getting all. ButI don't know how much scro I don't
know. Let's say your garage dooris going to cost three or four grand
to fix whatever. I don't knowhow much your garage doors are going to
cost, but you subtract it fromthe twenty. I completely understand that.
But and I appreciate your advice.What if the well, I mean,

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do you want something more like somekind of an arrest or something, because
it's not gonna happen nothing, No, no, no, no to I
want this to be done and overwith. Now are they bugging you for
that twenty? Are they bugging youfor that twenty? He was, That's
why he sent him the form sayingeverything was gone. Okay, So now

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is he bugging you? Is hebugging you for the twenty right? Now?
Does he know you have the check? No? I would call him
and say, look, you forgedmy name. They canceled any extra money
you may have had coming. Ido have a check for twenty grand,
but I need to subtract from thatfor the garage repair. I would just

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do it, call us back,tell us what he does, because that's
exactly what the way it works out. Why not just to have him admit
to your insurance company if you reallywant to get this done, that he's
the one that signed it. Thenthey'll open it up, resend the check.
Well, they already sent the twenties. And because because I wouldn't bother,
because why do I care? Ihave enough to fix everything. Why

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do I care? It's just thecontractor suffering from his work, from his
from his deed. Now, ifyou're afraid the contractor will put a if
you're afraid the contractor will put alean on your house or something. No,
you not take care. Okay,well then because the contract you see,
the way I look at it isyou got the contractor dead to write.

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You got the contractor the insurance company. You never signed it. Now,
by the way, this was electronic, right, But what and electronically
was it sent? Was this lettertruly sent from you? Or was it
sent from the contractor? Did thecontractor try to make the illusion it was
from you? He sent He sentme the forum where the IP addresses where

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it was signed, and that wasin a different county than I live in.
So no, I'm not asking aboutit IP address. I'm asking about
what he signed. Did he signyour name electronically? Okay, that's wrong,
man, You got the proof,that's it? So you did you?
I told you how I would handleit. You can handle it any
way you want. Three oh threeseven one three talk seven one three eight

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two five five Patrick? What's goingon? Hell? You know? Tom?
Just one's give you an update?Now? Which one is this?
Patrick? Which one is this?So this is a small claims that you
guys helped me with and find.But which one it? Does? It?
Have to do with uh, ithas to do with work that I

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had done last fall. It wasall sprinkler blowouts for a rental company and
okay, twenty of them, yeahyou you uh okay, and and uh
what happened, Well, they justnever paid me and they just never write
me, and right, yeah,and the reason was is that just go

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back real quick, is that weI do scheduling online, okay, and
so my whole thing is online,and so they tried to They did this
whole thing by sending me a list, and I was like, all right,
well I'll try to get you guys, you know, in with my
whole thing, because they dumped thison me, like another fifty at least
when I'd only done one property.And I said, yeah, I'll fit

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you guys in. And then atsome point they had someone else come out
and do a few, but theydidn't tell me, and so we still
had to drive out to these propertiesfrom Bolder to Denver. Yeah, and
I told them that, you know, if I have to drive from Bolder
to Denver, I'm missing jobs,and so you have you still have to
pay for them if you didn't tellme that they got done. And they

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decided not to pay me for anyof them. Did you win though,
Well, I filed it and thesheriff went and served them, and this
is why I'm calling. Yeah,it's if they're going to do the small
claims, pay the share of fortytwo dollars to go serve them, because
they instantly got back to me andthey're going to pay me. Excellent,

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excellent. You know Mark has foundthat that most of the time when he
served a company, they would calland either pay or negotiate something almost I
mean not almost, Mark every singletime. Did you ever have to go
to court? Mark ever? Onetime? Mediation? One time at of
say twenty and which one was that? It was a telephone company. I'm

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not going to say who it was, but it was a cell phone company,
extremely well known. But but whydid they decide to go and negotiate?
Well, I don't think. Ithink they finally started giving it thought
a day before court and they didn'tknow what to do and it was too
late for them to do anything butshow up in mediation, so they cut

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me a check at mediation for manI wanted. Okay, hey, Tom,
do we give Patrick a dinger forsolving his own problem? For sure,
give him dos dinger, dude.Well hold on, okay here,
I didn't get to check yet.But what I'm trying to say is is
that if you, if you getsomeone served, pay. It was forty

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two dollars to have the sheriff showup and serve this to some secretary and
Garrett, we got a break,dude, we got a break. That's
gonna go straight. I thought Idid. I didn't take the fifteen,
did I. I'm in big trouble, my god. Let me give you
a dinger and then we're out ofhere. Okay, I think all right?

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More coming up, Hi, TomMartino here at THREEO three seven one
three talk three oh three seven onethree eight two five five. All right,
So we have had a variety ofissues here right. Oh my gosh,

(01:24:05):
I can't believe what an action packday already, So get your calls
in three oh three seven to onethree talks seven one three eight two five
five. So the point that Iwas making about serving Mark is that the
Sheriff's Department makes a bigger impression whenyou them. Using them is kind of
hard. A lot of times theywon't go that extra mile, nor do

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I think they should. I havenever done that. But most of the
companies I sue. It's not likea residence or an individual. It's a
big company to where they already havethat very easy place to serve in the
state. Yeah. So, butthe point I think his main one of
his main points was hey, youknow, let's get you know, let's

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get someone to serve that'll make animpression. Yeah, but I don't think
if you're suing a company. I'lljust give an example like a Microsoft.
You know, when you walk into serve them, you're just putting it
right in that box. They don'tcare who puts it in there. That's
right, A big company, hedoesn't care. Now have you seen the
billboards mark that Wyoming the state ofWyoming took out. I don't know if

(01:25:16):
it was the state. Actually itwas LCSO lcsowy dot org. Anyway,
anyway, you know what it said, No, And okay, they're downtown
Denver. And here's what the billboardsays. It has a picture of Larimer

(01:25:36):
County Sheriff's Department Laramie County, Imean Laramie and it has four deputies standing
there and it says work in Wyomingwhere breaking the law is still illegal and
cops are funded. Think about that. You know my favorite part of the

(01:25:58):
county Sheriff's office. Oh okay,I'm sorry, I'm scare. So they're
the ones that did it. Yeah, yeah, that's where my daughter is
in law school. So I actuallyliked that. And and by the way,
I yep, I just looked upthe website. They're right on the
front. They're just basically saying,you know where right is right and wrong
is wrong. Man. They're saying, if you're a cop in Denver and

(01:26:20):
you're sick and tired of arresting peoplethat beat the crap out of people or
steal cars, and then see himthe next day on the street, come
over here where we actually give ayep. That's what they're saying. Sheriff
Brian Kozak authorized it. He waselected. What did Denver just do?

(01:26:42):
What did they just do the otherday? Yanked another eleven from the Denver
pleage? Yeah, yep, yep, yep. You know what, And
now gas is going to go upa buck. What do you think about,
Well, the new mayor doesn't haveanything to do with that, but
he died. Blame them all.But the new mayor what do you think
about the new mayor? Really?What do you think about him? I

(01:27:02):
can't stand him. He looks likea child as well, he looks like
he's seventeen. Anyway, he's gotthe wit. He's got the wit of
an eight year old. So asfar as that billboard the mayor has,
oh wait, wait, hold on, I want to say one more thing

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about the PD in Denver. Andyou know what they just changed, or
they're changing it next month. Ifyou don't have tail lights or a head
light out, or if you haveexpired plates, they are no longer going
to pull you over, period,end of story. That's right, So
why renew? I'll tell you what. If I lived in Denver, I
would never renew my plates. Ifyou don't leave, who gives a crap?

(01:27:45):
You don't have to pay taxes likeeverybody else, don't renew them.
In fact, don't do anything toyour car either. You got break lights
out, headlights out? You cankill somebody, no problem. In Denver,
we don't give a sh hey sham. And he's coming really close to
that full word. Hey, Mark, you know what they ought to do.
They ought to pull the people overand give them a warning, because

(01:28:08):
I think it would help for safetyif people it wouldn't wait, they just
let you loose people up until whata year ago, Doc, You could
steal a car if it was underten grand, and they could care less.
All I'm saying, if the copsstill cause with defective lights, it
would and just gave them a warning. Doc. They don't listen. You're

(01:28:29):
missing the entire point. That's harassmentin Denver PD's eyes or the mayor's eyes.
I know. If you're not thepoint over for a low level of
fence, all you're doing is profiling. That's what they're saying again, insulting
again, insulting minority communities by sayingit's racist, because what they're saying is
most problems are caused by Blacks andMexicans, and we can't do anything about

(01:28:56):
it because that would be racist.And I don't agree that most of those
problems are just among minorities, andbut what they're doing in Denver and in
Colorado is exacerbating the problem by bringingup those differences and making excuses for their
stupid laws. We have more comingup, Hey, Tom Martine here three

(01:29:25):
oh three seven to one three talksseven one three eight two five five so
whatever is on your mind, wewant to help you today at three oh
three seven one three talk. Bythe way, that talk speaking of that
billboard uh in downtown or around Denvertalking about how work in Wyoming we're breaking

(01:29:47):
the law is still illegal and copsare funded. The mayor said it's off
base and bristled at it. Hesays the City of Denver's adjustment to the
Denver Police Department's budget was carefully craftedso there is no impact on the department's

(01:30:16):
public services. To say that Denveris defunding the police is a wilful mischaracterization.
Well, doesn't defunded mean you takemoney away from something? Yeah,
that's what I call it. Theytook him a lot of money away,
and they took eleven million away.But only in the lefty liberal world.

(01:30:38):
Is that not defunding somehow, that'sprobably funding the police now. Anyway,
here's the bottom line. Johnson toldthe media last week that he's diverting some
of the money to help newcomers.Now, By the way, isn't it

(01:30:59):
funny how they create new terms tospeak of people and newcomers? Hey,
these we shouldn't be surprised though they'rethe same ones that change the definition of
vaccine. This is going to betterserve the migrants that come into our city.
Now. I don't mind, bythe way, you know, being
reasonable and helping people who are youknow, truly seeking a better life and

(01:31:24):
asylum and all that, but atthe expense of people who live here and
work their asses off. Come on, man, when are people going to
get When are people going to revolton this? When are they going to
rebel against this kind of government spendingand these policies. When is it going

(01:31:44):
to happen? How just how faris Colorado going to go before it goes
the other way? Will there bea pendulum swinging? Or is it simply
going to be craziness? You knowwhat? I hope, really hope happens
that Trump wins And I might havemy dates wrong here, but he wins
nationally, he wins the popular vote, and I think that's very possible.

(01:32:08):
I think he's going to win thepresidency because the electoral College. But if
he wins the popular vote, whodoes Colorado vote for? Do you remember
Tom the popular vote? Colorado mustgo with the popular vote. They do
not have a vote of their own, So wouldn't that be an in your
face move. If all these Demshad to give the electoral votes all to

(01:32:30):
Trump because he won the vote,how long would it take for that rule
to change. No, it won'tchange they because the popular vote is always
going to go to the highly thedensely populated areas, which are New York,
La, Chicago, all of theliberal services. You're assuming, You're
assuming these people aren't fed up.I know we disagree on that. Well,

(01:32:54):
not that they're not fed up,is that they'll put up. I've
told you, That's all I said. I don't think so. They'll put
up with pain and misery for thesake of being right. I don't know.
When you have one hundred thousand peopleturn out in New Jersey for Trump,
Wow, you know it's going tobe an interesting year for sure.
Again, I think, Mark,I think something you said might be correct

(01:33:15):
in that I am maybe I amlooking. I try to look at all
points of view, and maybe I'mputting too much weight on the point of
view I'm viewing about the hatred forTrump and they disdain for him. Maybe
I'm putting too much emphasis on thatbecause they're so much stronger in their opinions
than those who are for him.I mean, they're pretty adamant people for

(01:33:40):
him. But Mark, if youever hear the hatred spewed for the conservative
way of life, oh my god, I've heard it right from my own
parents. Come on, for Trump, when you hear that hatred, what
you think is, how could heever overcome that? You see that?
Because when people have to decide betweenI mean you can. God, I

(01:34:04):
don't even need to give examples,but how about eating, uh, compared
to daycare, compared to ever takinga day off or both people working?
I mean, everything's different. Man. Okay, now go queer quick here,
Shane, what's your comment on gasprices? Go ahead, Shane,
I just wanted to say I heardMichael Brown talking about that subject. I

(01:34:28):
think it was this morning. Yeah, and when hektin Loper left office.
Before he left office, he appliedfor that later with the EPA when Jared
Plins was elected, he rescinded thata waiver and canceled it. So he
created this problem. Yeah, andnow he's trying to look like the Wait

(01:34:49):
a minute, hero, wait aminute, you're you're telling me that Polis
actually canceled it. Yes, yep, yep. Why because he wanted them
to come down more on Colorado's air. Think about it. He's got his
uh, you know right, environmentalbuddies to please. You're right, You're

(01:35:11):
absolutely right. They have to.They have to always worship at that altar.
We have more coming right up.Hi, Tom Martino, you're a
troubleshooter. Three to zero three sevenone three talk seven one three eight two

(01:35:34):
five five. Go ahead, Tony, you got to comment on business.
What is your comment, Tony?Hi, Tony you there, Tony Okay,
I don't know what to do,Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony,
Tony. All right, you guyshave to help me out here.

(01:35:56):
He's not talking. So let's goto Kevin. Kevin, what's going on,
Kevin? How you doing, goodman? What's going on? Well?
You talked about rebelling, and Icame to this state in nineteen eighty
six with about thirty five dollars inmy pocket, no job, no car,
no nothing. I'm living a verygood life now. Yeah, Unfortunately,

(01:36:24):
I don't like what's going on aroundme. And we are taking a
road trip starting tonight to look inother states for living out the rest of
our lives with you. You knowwhat, I gotta tell you, Kevin,
I've heard this from a lot ofpeople. They came to Colorado not
because it was super conservative or superliberal, but it was more or less

(01:36:48):
a state that let you be whatyou wanted to be. And they were
not hell bent or lopsided on anyissues. They were just kind of and
let live. It was a greatenvironment. Yes, we're going to start
with Idaho. We're heading to Idahotonight. We're going to go through Montana,

(01:37:09):
and we're going to go through Wyoming. I was born and raised in
North Dakota. We're not going there. Although it's a red state and all
that, it's just, you know, I think there's going to come a
time and I don't know if you, I don't know how people agree with
this, but Kevin, I dobelieve the country is not only going to
be divided politically, but it's goingto be divided geographically. Absolutely, you're

(01:37:33):
gonna have red and you're gonna haveblue. Now, that will be.
That will be the way it is. It's gonna be like a you know,
the old Confederacy versus the uh,the North. I mean, it's
going to be north versus South,or left versus right. I don't know

(01:37:55):
why we can't just have some differencesand look for common ground where we can
without having extremes on either side,especially all the craziness going on right now.
I'm Tom Martino with more coming up? Yeah, ripped up? What

(01:38:17):
news? You need? Advice?Who you don't have? The come running
just as fast as we can show. Shooter's gonna help coming man. This
is the Troubleshooter Show. No TomMartino, Hi, Tom Martino here,

(01:38:38):
Welcome to the show. Three ohthree seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five? Who havean hour to go? And I want
to bring up Steve right now.He's the one who wrote that song you
just heard. He's a man,Steve Moss, and he brews beer as
well, and he wants He alwaystells us when he has special events going
on. What's going on? Steve? Now you're doing Tom? How are

(01:38:59):
you doing? Mark? Everybody else? Sue's crew over there. It's always
fun. We need to make anotherappointment. There's a lot of new beers
you guys could try. Yeah,you know what, come on in.
Mark loves your beer and Sue's lovesyour beer. Now I don't love that
of that. Steve I don't sayI don't love it. I just don't
drink a lot of beer. Butgo ahead, Mary, Yeah, tell
us what's happening quite free beer anyway? Hey, can I comment on this

(01:39:26):
immigration thing? Yeah, go ahead, Sure, you guys, Mary,
an amazing woman from out of thecountry. I've been working on a K
one visa for a couple of years. Yeah, five thousand dollars in it.
And I had to sign something sayingthis person isn't going to apply for
government since for at least two yearsshe won't have to. But the point

(01:39:51):
is, these I don't call themimmigrants, illegal aliens, illegal invaders.
They come in, they get abackpack, they get money, they get
debit card, phone, healthcare.I mean, it's just ridiculous, you
know. I've heard that from others. I've heard the point though, he
did it properly, and it's fivethousand bucks plus they can't get on any

(01:40:14):
government assistance. We'll need to.But the point is it's a really long
wait, you know, and weshould be putting the front of the line
because we're doing it legally. Ninetyan asset of the company, not a
you know. Mental Now I wantto I want to you know, I
do want to say this though,not all, not all of the people

(01:40:38):
coming into the country for asylum andstuff from Venezuela especially, they're not all
looking for making demands and looking forhandouts either. But you know, you
have like a difference of a population. You have people who are hard working,
of people who are dead, beachat people are criminals. You have
all kinds of people, no matterwhere they come from. But in any

(01:40:59):
case, I really respect you forwhat you're doing, Steve, on that
on, you know, doing itthe right way, getting it done.
And where's your wife from? Doyou mind saying the Philippines, okay,
amazing people, amazing people. Andyou know, Tom, I want to
make a clearer I raised two Hispanicdaughters. I'm white, you know,
I mean, you know, Iwant all people to come in, just

(01:41:23):
come in legally. And I don'tblame the they'll trying to get in here.
I blame the government, you know, the left. If the left
is the one who does this,I blame the government, not the people.
Well, Steve, look at look, let's just take Denver. We're
a sanctuary city, and all thesepeople decided to come here. Now they're
overloaded and they're telling people they gotto get the hell out of here.

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We can't handle anymore. We setthem up for failure, sir, Well,
let's set up something for success,like the race this weekend at Colorado
National Speedway and a website out atColoradospeedway dot com. What do you got?
What do you got going on?What do you got going on?

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Steve's sell my beer in the stands, and they also let me take my
tent out there and sell retail.Now they have a couple different brands in
the stands, but I bring sixteenbeers out with me. I've never seen
a small brewery do this, butI I'm obsessed. So there's a lot
of choices. We've got new ones. We have a racetrack beer I just

(01:42:28):
made for them, another one TripleI t A. It's a pit stop
nine point five percent. It's reallyan amazing beer. We have a Mango
brand new super Laser Mango. Sothat's a high gravity. Really hey,
oh it's higher alcohol. It's veryrefreshing. Steve is, does this make

(01:42:49):
a living for you or more ofa passion? Oh? I think it's
it could be. It's just thatI do so many other things it's more
of like a side. But Iam looking for you know, I'm gonna
apply for a tap room license onmy property and have little special events.
And uh, you don't make anymoney on wholesale tom and small breweries.

(01:43:13):
It's it's but how do you putout? Here's what I want to know.
How do you put out the vault? I mean, you have so
much beer out? Do you constantly? Do you have a little staff?
Some people go to the lake Ibrew beer? So really is it you
only a one man operation? You'redoing it constantly? Bottling this? No,

(01:43:33):
I have a I have a coupleof people that work for me.
There's one guy that you met,Gordon. Yeah, he's an amazing guy.
He's the best worker I've ever seen, and he's willing to work.
It just does this business doesn't paya lot. I can't pay my workers
a lot. There's no there's nota lot a lot of room. Who
does the canning? Steve? Iuse a mobile canning company and they come

(01:43:58):
here with a you know, atruck and they wheeled the machine into the
brewery and they how cool is that? How cool is that? This guy's
a nuclear physicist, He's a nucleartext so he's like, well, man,
he does these readings and gets thecarbonation absolutely perfect. That is so
cool. So anyway, anyway,so the race, yeah, go ahead.

(01:44:21):
Well this weekend, we're going tobe there with our tent, and
we got a bunch of really coolstuff we have to like do. There's
a bunch of merchandise. Really it'sreally cool. We have stuff with the
kids. I mean even a bubblegummachine. You know, it was just
you know, we make it fun. We have little blow up guitars for
the kids, all that kind ofstuff. But you go to the race

(01:44:43):
and bring your family and it's like, you know, five hours are really
fun, four or five divisions racingand visit our tent, Rock and Roll
Brewery tent. And we're also goingto be Memorial Day weekend. We're going
to be out there both nights,Saturday and Sunday, Memorial Day weekend,
and then the race. The featurerace of the year for me for my
sponsorships at the track is Father's DayWeekend. Now that's going to be Saturday

(01:45:10):
night NASCAR racing. The seventeenth andeighteenth, the June seventeenth and eighteenth,
the fifteenth and sixteenth Father's Day isthe sixteenth, and then I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. That was last year.
You're right. I'm looking at yoursite here and you have the poster
up for last year's Father's Day.You know, I because I I'm just

(01:45:32):
going I'm doing towny things. Inever get that revise. I'm sorry though,
you know. Anyway, that's thisweek, this under Monster Truck on
Sunday, it's Monster Truck loving Father'sDay super sorry, so to find out
more if they just want to findout and then go up and say hi
to you Coloradospeedway. Isit dot comright? But let me also, I'm

(01:45:58):
going to offer a good boy someVIP tickets right now if people want to,
you know, tell me or callme. Let's say the first FIBE
people, We'll give some VIP ticketsexcellent. And also on on the Father's
Day week on the fifteenth, whichis a Saturday night, I'm gonna also
cater a famous Staves super party forv I. So we're gonna be giving

(01:46:24):
some of those away as well.Might come up for that, man,
Mark, let's go to that one. Let's do I love monster trucks,
man, I absolutely love that.By the way, what's the date for
that? Well a for the famousStaves catering that you know, for my
sponsorship, my to grace is thefifteenth. That's a Saturday night, June

(01:46:46):
fifteenth, and then the following day'sMonster Trucks. But what I was gonna
say, Tom, you know,like free meal, famous days, VIP
got to earn this one. I'mthinking like, maybe if they call your
show and you guys can vote onwho's singles the best tree farm jingle,
our best tree farm jingle representation coolnice or or or or we'll say the

(01:47:11):
first five, the first five peoplethat do the best job, or they
can sing the troubleshooter and you're theyou can vote. You guys can vote
all right. By the way,Uh, just give out a number.
It's Colorad, Speedway dot com orrock and Roll dot Beer. Uh to
find out more information. Yeah yeah, rock and roll dot Beer. I
got you, Okay, we gotmore coming up. I'm Tom Martinez three
all three seven, one, three, eight, two five five, Randy,

(01:47:33):
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(01:47:57):
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eight eight heating dot com. Hey, so Randy has a question about a
used car sale and out of state. Go ahead, Randy, what's going
on? Man? I'm trying tocreate some side the income by flipping cars.

(01:48:17):
And you understand, you understand aboutflipping cars. If you do more
than a certain number I think it'sfour in a year, you have to
get a dealer's license. Okay.I've found was fort lower price out of
state than what you could buy thesame vehicle here with the same a more

(01:48:40):
than miles on it. What vehicleis that? The two thousand and seventeen
Honda Pilot excelly or no, thetop of the line with seventy thousand miles
on it? And where'd you findit? I don't want to say,

(01:49:00):
somebody else might jump on it.No, give me tell me what state
or something it's in Texas? Howmany miles on it? Seventy thousand miles?
And how much are we talking?Sixteen thousand? Okay, beware because
that could be a scam. OhI know. But let's say everything's legit,

(01:49:26):
I'll do a carfax. I'll talkto these people. How can I
minimize the risk of sending them adeposit electronically to hold that vehicle till I
get down there to pick it up. You do it by credit card?
You do it by credit card.You don't do it once you do a
transfer, it's theirs. Is ita licensed dealer? No, it's a

(01:49:48):
private party. Absolutely not. There'sno way to minimize your risk. There's
no way to minimize your risk toput a deposit down. Don't put a
deposit down, Okay, but I'mafraid it will get sold out from under
me if I don't do that.Yeah, that's why they that's why they
put the whole scam like that.Listen, how much under the market is

(01:50:11):
that? Really? How much?I don't know how much under the market
is that? By the way,if you're talking about at a dealer,
it's about thirty No, No,I'm not talking about a dealer. What
is normal retail on that? Juston the have you looked about twenty two
with that and that twenty two thousandand you found it for sixteen? There's

(01:50:38):
something going there's something wrong it justthe market doesn't work that way. The
fact they're asking for a deposit.If I'm selling a car and they're not
asked whatever, they're not no reason. There's no reason I take a deposit.
What is if you give me afive hundred dollars deposit and the guy
shows up with cash in ten minutes. Mark, They're not rude asking for

(01:51:00):
a deposit. He didn't say theywere asking for him. This is something
I want to offer them to thehold it till I get there, but
I want to find out. Ithink it's crazy. I just think it's
crazy. And to bottom line,they know there is no there is no
way to minimize your risk. Man, I'm sorry. Have you actually talked
to him? Yes, Okay,I would be very suspect on why the

(01:51:29):
period. I didn't hear a goodreason why it's so far under market.
I would ask them that first,and if there's not a good explanation,
I'd forget about it. Oh,Dles don't have a big markets because he's
understood a lot time here. Uhhuh, Well, I just think that.

(01:51:53):
Okay, I'm looking at I'm lookingat Honda pilots. Okay, with
the same package, same mileage allover all over, including Texas. Okay,
I find cars dot Com to begreat. There's not one of them
under twenty grand, not one ofthem. Not one. And I am

(01:52:15):
telling you without even looking at it, when something when it's just it's just
too far askew. So I wouldn'tput a deposit down and I just wouldn't.
Now, even with one hundred andtwenty thousand miles, these cars are
going for twenty thousand. I don'tthink seventy thousand miles seventy thousand miles for

(01:52:42):
seventeen grand. Something is wrong.I bet it was like Facebook Marketplace.
Where did you find it? It'son a very reputable site. What reputable
site is it? Look at broI know you think people are going to
run out and buy it. They'renot going to run out and buy it.
All they have to do is goglitter something. Well, just tell
me the what site is it?And by the way, a reputable site

(01:53:03):
doesn't mean reputable sellers. Cars dotCom is a reputable site. There's a
lot of scams on there. Thereare a lot of this is on this
is on craigs List. Did hejust say it was a very credible sight
with a straight face. Wait,did you, honest to God say that
to me, Randy, that itwas a credible sight. I was just

(01:53:27):
trying to introduct into this. Oh, I get it, Okay. I
really want to know because it's agreat deal, and I know two different
person and the place is vary fromthe markets. Look at man, I'm

(01:53:47):
going to tell you something there.You're not going to find it. You're
just not going to find it.Sorry, Okay. I mean when something
look at I I'll tell you whatI have searched for so many cars for
so many years, and and things, and and whenever something is off that
far, there's something going on.Now. I'm not saying you shouldn't check

(01:54:10):
it out, but don't pay adime, not one dime, not one
dime. If you have to pay, I would go look at it if
you if you think there's a chanceit could be real. The worst you're
going to do is take a tripto Texas. It just it just ain't
right, man, Okay. Iwanted to tell you. Now say I
wouldn't have to tell you to reachfor that. Oh. Hey, by

(01:54:31):
the way, Randy, go checkdid you call the guy by the way,
Yes, okay, And and whatdid they say? I mean,
did tell me what they said?Oh? They said it was an excellent
condition. It's all real to have, but it's been hasn't been in any
accidents to clean title? All right, ask him for the VEN number.

(01:54:57):
That's that was my next move.Okay, they do that, call us
back, really, call us backtomorrow. Car day, Please do that
call Ask him for the VIN number. If they give you a VIN number,
we can trace where that car is, where it went, and if
they even have it. Michael,Welcome, what's going on, Michael?
What's happening? Hello? Hey,what's going on? Michael? Oh?

(01:55:20):
Yeah, I wasn't even expecting tobe on the radio that quick. So
I was telling the ladies. Justa second ago. A couple of weeks
back, I was at the DavidBusters up in Westminster. I went up
there for the Nuggets game with mysons, and I had just like just
some game cards to play the games. And then I asked the lady if

(01:55:43):
I could reserve a table to eat. She told me I had to see
the hostess, and so I wentto the hostess. Hostess told me that
they were full, that we couldn'teat there. So I went and try
to get my money back for thegame cards. First manager I told me,
yeah, it was okay, butthen he had took my cards and
left came back with this other manager, and the other manager was like kind

(01:56:04):
of being a jerk, not likelooking at me in my eyes. And
I had questioned him like, Hey, how come ever since I got over
here, you're kind of like beinga jerk about this. Well, what
do you think is going on?Michael? What do you think is going
on? He? I don't know, honestly, Like I have no idea.
I couldn't speak for the guy,but but did you feel like it

(01:56:27):
was personal? I kind of didfelt like it was personal. And so
anyways, manager, we kind oflike argue. I told him, hey,
you should let people know before theypurchased these game cards they're not going
to be able to eat, sothey don't because you're not going to give
them their money back. He startedgetting like really offended. Dude grabbed me
by my shirt, like what,pulling me out. He started taking me

(01:56:50):
out of the Davenbusters and then punchedme in my eye and gave me like
what oh no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. Wegot more coming up. Just hang
on, does the guy punched youin the face? Hi? Tom Artino

(01:57:11):
back with you? Three h threeseven one three talk seven one three eight
two five five. Okay, Sowe have Michael uh with this Dave and
Busters thing, and basically I findthis shocking. Michael, you were punched
in the face. What did youdo after that? Did you call the
police? So what happened after that? He was telling me, Hey,

(01:57:34):
you better get out of here.I just called the cop. And then
my sister and my best friend wasthere too, and her my sister's husband
was there. They're like, let'sgo, Mike, and I was like,
hey, dude, I was like, I swear I didn't do anything
wrong. I was like, I'mjust gonna hang out, and they're like,
no, let's just go. Ohwell. I hung around for about
a half hour waiting for the policeto come. They never came. My

(01:57:55):
boys were complaining that they were hungryand yeah, by the way, this
happened in front of my two Howlong ago did this happen, Michael?
This happened during one of the Nuggetsand Lakers games. Like, now,
do you have Michael, do youhave witnesses that saw him hit you.
Yeah, my son thought, well, it was all on camera, but
the police officer said that it wastoo blurry that he couldn't see the actual

(01:58:17):
punch. And then also the employeewas claiming that he could smell alcohol,
which I just got there and Idon't. I'm not really a drinker.
I didn't. Well, Michael,even if you had a drink, it
doesn't mean you were drunk. ButI want to know this though. Did
the manager say you're the one thatstarted it and you started getting rough?
Yeah, you can see on thewell, even the police officers stayed on

(01:58:40):
the police support that you don't seeme touch him at all. He comes
out and grabs me, he startsin it, and he was around other
managers. The other managers didn't doanything because they kind of knew too.
Like he was. He was beinglike, he was saying, why did
he Why did he overreact like that? Do you think? Well? I
was trying to like tell him.I was like, well, what you

(01:59:00):
should do is let people know,like before you purchase a game card,
you're not going to get your moneyback because it doesn't say it on the
receipt or anything. Like I said. The first manager seemed like he was
gonna give me a refund. Heleft my receipt and my cards. I
didn't spend no money on those cards, and we kind of got into an
argument. He's like, oh,if you go to Blackhawk and you lose,
you can't get your money back.And I'm like, yeah, but

(01:59:23):
I didn't play the cards. Ididn't even touch him, right, right,
you're not asking So anyway, bythe way you can get you can
get your money back on most Daveand Buster cards all day long, as
long as you didn't use them.Yeah, I didn't. I still have
the cards and there you can probablytake it. You can probably go to
another Dave and Busters. Did youcomplain to anyone like a district manager or

(01:59:45):
general manager or anyone. My mywife had called him and she made a
complain for my boys. But Ididn't actually call for what happened to me,
but she let him know. Therewas a police report and everything.
So I don't know what they're doing. So you weren't charged with any thing,
right, No, I was incharge of anything. That is ridiculous,
and it's the one in Westminster,right, yeah, So what what

(02:00:16):
are you doing right now? So? What what do you need do you
want us to do anything, Well, I wasn't sure what I can do.
Honestly, I was reaching out,Well, you could sue that guy.
You could sue that guy and Daveand Busters for any injuries you have.
I'm serious, Yeah, I had. I even went to the hospital
because they said that I had asmall concussion. When I went and see

(02:00:36):
my primary, you know what Iwould. You can take him the small
claims court and sue, or youcan just go see a personal in your
re attorney. I wouldn't mess aroundwith that kind of crap. But you
have to have witnesses more than justyour young son who saw this happen.
There's got to be other people whosaw it. Yeah, there was a

(02:00:57):
lot of people that were standing around. But if you don't have any witnesses,
you can't it's going to be useless. In my opinion, it's going
to be his word against yours.So the only thing I'd be thinking is
like Stavenbusters was to cooperate and like, let me know who, because there
was some nice people that were standingnext to me when all this had happened.
I don't know how I'm pretty didyou see the video? Did you

(02:01:18):
see the video? I was there'sa big TV as soon as you walk
away. Yeah, but let meask you, can you see in the
video? Can you see him hityou? Sir? I tried to request
a video from the police officer,but for some reason, the officer didn't
need He doesn't have the video.He says he saw the video, but
he didn't book it in for likeevidence or anything. So I don't know,

(02:01:40):
Like, well, he said itwas blurry, right, didn't he
say it was blurry? Blurry?But my thing is like, it's probably
blurry because they're recording so much andthey're trying not to store such so much,
like gigabytes or whatever. Maybe theycan get the quality better, like
downloaded in a better quality. I'mnot sure of that. They might just

(02:02:00):
have it. I don't know.Actually, I just if you hire an
attorney, they can file a lawsuitand ask for it to be preserved.
Yeah, that's that's the best.The cops showed up after the punch,
so we're talking to civil lawsuit doc. And then, by the way,
it wasn't he didn't actually call thecops. But what happened was when I

(02:02:20):
left, I had called my mom. She was like, I don't think
he called the cops. I thinkhe was lying, so I had called
the cops, So the cops endedup going for my call, not his.
Okay, listen, and then again, he might want to see us.
You might want to see us.I might want to see a civil

(02:02:41):
attorney. Bro. That's all Ican tell you. You might want to
see a civil attorney. By theway, Frank Ran the real estate man,
will do market valuations of your homefor the asking and the reason I'm
bringing this up. Just yesterday hedid one for a friend who was looking
to buy a house, and hewent through the entire thing and he showed
the positives and negatives of that home. So this guy's renting the house and

(02:03:04):
wants to buy it, and thelandlord's willing to hear evaluation. And Frank
did it completely and he can doyours, no obligation, no charge,
zero three nine two zero sixteen twentytwo. Frank drand the real estate man
dot com. All right, holdon a second, Michael. All we
can say is you got to geta personal injury attorney. I'm serious about

(02:03:24):
that. Okay. Now, Jeff, you have a problem with solar or
an issue? What is it?Jeff? Hi, Well, Okay,
So this happens. We had asol We had an ion solar installed on
our garage, and another company cameby and said, hey, we could
tie into that and get you,you know, your whole house solar,

(02:03:45):
like the whole roof and everything.Now, okay, what was the solar
that was already there? Ion Solar? What is that? It's just a
just a company okay. And wasit there when you bought the house or
you had it done all? Wehad it done? Okay, got it.
And then this other company came around, you know, the door to

(02:04:05):
door walking and they said, hey, why didn't they do your whole roof
and they and they said, well, we said well, they said they
can't do the fire code, like, well we have smaller panels, we
could do the rest of your rooflike okay, great, that would be
awesome. So we signed up.That was through Shield Energy. So they
came out and so they had toturn off. But why, okay,

(02:04:27):
did you like your solar system thatmuch that you thought having extra panels would
be better? We thought, well, the guy I think sold us on
it, like because it wasn't likea complete wash. We were only making
you know, like the panels.We had only did half y on the
ion system. Why did they notdo more because they said due to fire

(02:04:51):
code the size of their panels theycouldn't fit them on the roof the way
our roof is because they need likethree feet from two edges of the room.
And so why and so did theother company install more panels? Yes?
They did? Okay, did theydouble it? We had I think

(02:05:15):
six panels and now we have twentyone panels total. Okay, they tripled
it. Yes, And so thisall started in November twenty twenty two.
And then Shield Energy, who wasa new contractor to install, got everything
installed on the roof and then apparentlythat company went bankrupt or closed. So

(02:05:38):
our finance company, who is everbright for these panels? Yep, they're
the ones that do them all?Yep? What about ever? So where
does this stand right now? Thecompany that tripled it, they went out
of business. Yes, so thenthey had another company called Aptive Solar come
in to finish it, and thenit moved to Ambia Solar contract to finish

(02:06:00):
it. Oh my god, didit ever get finished? No, it's
not finished. And then they saidwe needed to turn on the panels.
We needed a fifteen thousand dollars majorpanel upgrade on the main breaker panel.
Did you pay anything yet? Haveyou paid anything so far? We've paid

(02:06:21):
a couple payments, but everybody hasfrozen our payments, so we're not paying
anything. How much have you paidso far? I think it was like
maybe five hundred bucks. Listen,I want to put you in touch with
Brooke over at the solar company welove. One of the solar companies we
love is Red Rocks Roof and Solar. I want you to call her Red

(02:06:48):
Rocks Roof and Solar. You tellher that I told you to call.
Okay, here's you got you?Can you write down this number? Yes,
have her analyzed. She works withthat finance company too, and she
might be able to bail you out. Okay, it's three oh three seven
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Okay, Ivan, what's going onman? What's happening? All right?
So the deal is me and mywife at a health share, Like
it's like healthcare insurance, but it'sa health share, right. Was it
like was it like one of thelike one of the Christian share programs?
Kind of yeah? I think Ibelieve it was was like you know,

(02:08:00):
I remember, listen, I triedthat one time, and let me tell
you something, not one thing,not one thing ever was paid. Ever.
It was the worst thing I everhad. Okay, so that's kind
of what's going on here. Youknow, a physical was supposed to be
included. Now, we had thisstuff for about a year and a half

(02:08:22):
and we since I'm sorry January first, we've got new insurance, but a
year and a half prior to thatwe had it. We got physicals.
Everything was fine. They did payfor a couple of things that my mom
or my mom my wife had forher foot or whatever. They did pay
their share. Well, we gotthese physicals and then there was lab work
done well they're not paying the billnow. And we dropped them in at

(02:08:43):
the end of last year. Andwe dropped them but the physicals were already
approved and everything was approved, andthey're but they're not paying the bills or
the lab We see, here's theproblem. Okay, which one is it?
By the way, which program It'scalled Joppa Stoppa Joppa Dapa Healthcare.
Here's what I want to do.Here's what I want to do. I

(02:09:05):
want to bring you back tomorrow withone of our experts on health insurance China.
Well, actually, yeah, goahead. You know what, Well,
my my problem's not with them anymorecauseI don't have they're just not paying
their bills. So my question wasthis, I was it was I was
paying them monthly on a credit cards. Yes, And so I went and
called my credit card yesterday. Isaid, you know what, I want

(02:09:26):
you to stop payment on those lasttwo payments in October or November and just
okay, okay, that's fair.I would that's a good point. Well,
I just want to make sure that'sfair, like I'm not going to
get in trouble for something. Well, let's put it this way. We're
about they didn't pay anything I wouldargue, if I were you, that's
exact. I'm glad you told methat it was done on a card.

(02:09:48):
Usually they ach a bank account.You're fortunate you put it on a credit
card. I would definitely do that. Well, I already did it.
I just want to make sure thatI'm not going well, I'm not gonna
I can't say for they're not gonnado anything, but you have proof they
never paid anything at all. Theyhave nothing they didn't pay. I would
feel no qualms about doing it.Let us know if it ever comes back

(02:10:11):
and they try to do something,I'm Tom Martino. Hey, we're out
of time. Don't forget three ohthree Martino three O three six two seven
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