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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, ripped up, didn't need advice, So you don't happen.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We come running just as fast as we can. Shooter's
gonna help me come. This is the Troubleshooter Show. No,
Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
What's going on? We have a lot happening here. By
the way, I did post and I found out why

(00:34):
I posted yesterday an error without audio, But I did
post that segment that I condensed that was on the
show this week earlier, where an older woman was basically saved.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Her life was saved due to a neighbor calling the show.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
The show then prompted our deputy to go out, and
Deputy Bow.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Went out and with the name, and then they called
nine to one one and had rescue go in.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Aurora police previously refused to go in several times, and
despite the neighbors concern and the relatives concern, and the
daughter's concern, and I remember saying on the show the
other day, boo on them, but rescue went in. Now,
by the way, Aurora Police at any time could have

(01:25):
called fire and rescue to go in, but they didn't.
I don't know why they didn't, But that video is
posted on our YouTube channel, Troubleshooter Network.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
But Deputy d he went and talked to some people.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You don't have to say who you talked to, But
you talked to some insiders at the police station.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
So what did you find out their limitations were? What
did you find out?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, this is before BA went out there. I called
a friend of mine who retired as a lieutenant from
the APD a couple of years ago, and asked him
what keywords dispatch would need to hear in order to
break and enter, and he said that there are no
such keywords. They in absence of exigence circumstances such as

(02:11):
seeing a body through the window, they would not enter
the unit because they are afraid of getting sued left
and right, including by the city attorney or the district
attorney themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Why would they be sued? I mean, then, why can emergency?
Why can I the the fire and rescue go in.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I didn't ask him that because my focus was specifically
on the police response. But he is willing to come
back to the show and discuss the limitations on police
response to such calls.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Okay, but in essence, they can't just go into a
place unless they actually see something or maybe.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hear something exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's not by laws, by their policy, which is limiting
their liability and exposure to lawsuits.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
All right, three h three seven one three talk or
as you see the number right here if you're watching
on YouTube or streaming is three oh three Martino three
oh three six.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Two seven eight four six six.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Frank, he wants to talk about an issue with a
short in his car or in his jeep.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
What's going on? Frank?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, Loo, Hi Frank, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Man?

Speaker 6 (03:26):
I bought a twenty sixteen Jeeps Renegade and it's had
wiring problems like a short in there since I bought it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
And wait, when did you buy it? Man?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
When did you buy it?

Speaker 6 (03:42):
A year and seven months ago? And this has been
going on since I bought it?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
And what is the issue.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
The issue is every time that every time the water
gets the rains or snow water gets in somewhere, it
it messes up all the the check engine light comes on,
other lights on, the cluster comes on. And now it
came to the point where rain the other day when
I was Mamar Colorado visiting.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
At rained real bad.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
The next day it would have start, and then it
finally started a couple of times, a couple of tries,
and I just put a new battery in it and
finally started. And then after I started it, it wouldn't give.
I wouldn't There's no there's no RPMs in the motor.
You give us some gases. It's just is just idling.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, hold on, We're going to get someone on who
is an electrical expert. Sheridan Auto Tech has an electrical division,
so let's see if we can describe this to him
and get some answers. So you hold on, Frankie came
to the right place the Troubleshooter Show. Hold on three
oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight
two five five. Now Oscar says he has a follow

(04:55):
up from two weeks ago. Oscar not sure what is
going on, but let me I'll find your original call.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Of course, as.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You're talking, so Oscar, spill the beans.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Brother.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
Two weeks ago, we had a couple of people on
the radio with me and they did a boat sail
that I thought was a scam, and we worked through it.
At the end of the radio call, they were willing
to just give me the title and it was all
done and.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh I remember, wait, wait, I remember something about that.
I'm trying to find it. Did you use the name
Oscar when you called in?

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I used James, but Oscar's my legal name, so.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Okay, okay, yeah, that man. That happens so much with people.
I can't find the damn problem. But okay, I'm looking,
and so I remember them saying, because of all the
problems you were having, they were going to allow you
to simply keep the They were going to sign it
over to you and you didn't have to pay it off.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
Yes, that's what they said, and we waited two weeks.
I reached out to them to say, now, now.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Who handled that? What deputy handled that for? I still
can't find that dang call. Do you remember the date
you called?

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Approximately approximately two weeks ago on a Monday is what
I'm thinking of, Monday or two?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And who handled the problem?

Speaker 8 (06:18):
It was you, But I can't remember the deputy's name,
to be honest, because my mind.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Was okay, okay, I'm sorry to lay all that on you.
I just trying to find so because why I had
to find it and then call them back. So what happened?
Did they ghost you or what? Man?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
What happened?

Speaker 8 (06:35):
They stopped, They wouldn't answer for like three days, and.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
Then when they sent me a thing, they just said
they'd rather deal with it in small claims court.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Now, So where are they locate? Where are they located?

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Denver?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Denver, Colorado's why did they lie to us about that?
I just don't understand it. What kind of boat was that?

Speaker 7 (06:54):
It was a pond tune boat?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What was the name of that.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I mean, I'm trying to find find anything to do
with searching here so I can find the dang thing.
So I just remember, weren't they even on the show
with us?

Speaker 8 (07:08):
Yes, they call I messaged them and said we were
on the show, and they called in. Yes, yes, we
resolved everything. And then now they decided to change their
mind and they want to go to small claims court again.
And it's just that's that's why I thought it was
a scam.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
They weren't honest from the beginning, and as you can see,
they're not honest.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm trying to find dang it. I just I'm trying
to find my what I'm trying to find my my deputies.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Doc. Do you recall this as a Kachina, do you
recall it that we can't do? Yes, oh, thank you, dear.

Speaker 9 (07:45):
I believe it.

Speaker 10 (07:45):
Was assigned deputy Chopper.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay, he's out of the country right now, but that
helps me search it, okay.

Speaker 10 (07:53):
And and also I can tell you that we definitely
did have the owners on of yeah, and they came
on the air and they were very forthright and said
that they were going to resolve this. So I remember
me not sure what's going on, but it was definitely
about two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Okay, good, And so we're gonna have to get up.
We're gonna have to call them back. You know. I
hate to do this to you, but because I can't
find my notes just this second, I want you to
at least do me number.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, you off the air, give us that information. Let's
call him back. Kachina. I mean, they did say in
front of God and everybody.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yes, they said they would just sign it.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Over to them. Now why and by the way, we'll
use it. You can use that in court that they
prompt not that they did a contract with you, but
it just seems weird that they would do that.

Speaker 10 (08:49):
You can definitely look up the episode and use that
in court for sure.

Speaker 11 (08:53):
Yeah, and that's what I plan to do for sure,
because it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
This is not an ad No, this was as as
tech was another one. Never mind, that was a different guy. Okay,
well listen, hold on, Okay, we'll come right back to you.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I'm Toll Martinez.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Three all three seven one three talk seven one three
A two five five. We're going to try to get
them on the air and see what's going on, all right,
and Deputy Choppers on vacation for a while, so, but
I think he signs into YouTube, so he might have
some some uh information for oh there he is, Chopper. Chopper,
if you you're.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Listening, I know you are.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
If you could help us here, bro and give us
any kind of clues so I can search that problem.
I just even if you have the exact date he called,
I just can't find it right now, but we'll look
it up. You see that we run this place really organized,
and we try to keep track of all these problems.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
So I apologize.

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home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter. Now listen
to this. I found the original call on this deal
where Neil mckintrick and Gretchen mckintrick sold a boat to Oscar.

(12:01):
Found it. I'm going to do details. We're on the
phone seeing why they're backing out. They gave their word,
Now they're backing out. I call that scum. Now I'm
going to go to Frank with his twenty sixteen Jeep renegade,
and I'm going to bring up one of our auto experts,
Kevin Calkin Sheridan Autotech dot com. In addition to pre

(12:24):
buying inspections on used cars and normal maintenance and repairs,
heavy in light and all of that that they do.
They do electrical issues, Kevin. Every time, every time that
jeep gets wet, whether it's snow or rain, he's got
a problem. And it doesn't he the lights flicker every
explain the symptoms when it gets wet.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Frank.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
What it does is when he gets wet, a check
engine light, it's always a guarantee that always comes on.
Other lights on the clusters start showing up. It came
to the point where it didn't want it. It didn't
want to start, and it has a new battery, and
I did and then it did start a couple of

(13:09):
minutes later. And then there was no RPM in the
motor at all when it was running.

Speaker 12 (13:14):
It was idling.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
But you go give a gas and it wasn't even
doing nothing with the RPMs with the motor. It's just
like sitting there in idle. You put it in reverse
and then it had some power. But when this happens,
it happens when it rains and snows. But then when
it dries, the weather dry, when it's all hot and
everything dries, everything goes back to normal.

Speaker 11 (13:38):
Okay, have you had that? If you go through a
car wash. Do you have any issues?

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah, yes, sir, the same thing.

Speaker 11 (13:46):
Huh, okay, well, we definitely got some water intrusions somewhere.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, so what happens, Well.

Speaker 11 (13:52):
We got to find a water intrusion. So I'm sure
there's going to be corrosion, almost like a flood. Car
is going to leave signs behind it. Where the water.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Where do you start?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Bro Uh have.

Speaker 11 (14:04):
You had windshield done recently?

Speaker 5 (14:07):
When I?

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Uh, when uh, there's a you know, check this out.
When I first bought the vehicle, whoever had it before
neglected to turn around and to do anything about it.
But right there on the driver's side, the window up
up on top of the windshield.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
It was leaking water.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
It was leaking water for the longest time. Even what
if the floor saw the floorboards and then they replaced
they took them back to the dealer, they replaced the
rubber around the wind windshield, and uh, that didn't help.

Speaker 11 (14:42):
Okay, Well, yeah, there's there's ways of fighting leaks.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know.

Speaker 11 (14:46):
We use the smoke machine where we can fill you
the whole vehicle with smoke and watch for the you know,
for it to be leaving the car. Basically the reverse
instead of putting water on the outside, look and see
where it comes in. We'll put the Oka mccarcy where
it comes out.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh bro, that's cool. Hey, listen, where are you located, Frank?

Speaker 6 (15:07):
I am located in Westminster.

Speaker 11 (15:10):
You're not far no matter, now.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Do you would you?

Speaker 12 (15:14):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I have I do have a warranty with the vehicle
that I purchased.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Uh what's it called?

Speaker 6 (15:24):
It is called.

Speaker 12 (15:27):
No man, I believe remember this, Remember this.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Warranties. Warranties probably will not cover water intrusion or outside
outside uh influences, They just don't.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
But you can look at it.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
I have Larry Miller one hundred and fourth. When all
when when this was all, you know, the check engine
light and all the fights on the clusters on. I
took us there and sat over there for two weeks.

Speaker 12 (15:58):
And that was the only vehicle.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
And I called and they said they're not done with it.
I said, I need to pick it up. I said,
that's the only vehicle. I'm walking back and forth to
the store and I'm getting up there in age where
I can't I can't be doing that. And so I
went down there and picked it up, and they charged
me almost three hundred dollars for one day of diagnostics
and they didn't even and then as dry, I said

(16:20):
it dry, the sun's out and dry. You check l
engine lights off and they think it's fine. I spent
almost three hundred dollars on nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
No, no, no, listen, man, Kevin will look at it
free real quick.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
He'll he'll give you some ideas.

Speaker 11 (16:37):
Just just do a quick overview of it and look.
It may be very obvious.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
On Colfax West of Wadsworth, Shardan Auto tech dot com
three oh three four five five seventy forty two. Kevin
always happy to have you on. And Frank, let us
know how it goes, bro please and and uh really, uh.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's what we want to know.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We want we want to follow us because we'll keep
going until we get this done. Now I looked up
your original call. You are absolutely right. You did use
the name Oscar, by the way, which is good.

Speaker 10 (17:06):
Well, we do have an update.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, hold on, I want to recap for those.

Speaker 10 (17:11):
Because people join us in the journey.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
People join us all the time, and I want to recap.
But basically, he bought a boat and they did say
that they would sign the boat over to him. He
bought a boat from Adam Neil mckintrick. His wife was
his Gretchen, and they're from Boulder, but he bought it

(17:36):
while they were in Florida. Is that right? So far?
I got the right call right? And she called in
after they heard about it, and they said, you know what,
they want to settle the matter. And they said, and

(17:57):
they said, they will release the title to and.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Forgive the balance to.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You said, what did you say?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
They did wrong? And I want to recap that.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
On a boat motor there's two separate parts, one called
a lower unit like a transmission, the other ones called
the motor, which is upper unit.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
So what happened was they.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Said, oh, there was a hole in it or something,
and they didn't disclose it. They said there was an
oil leak, but you said there was way more trouble
than they disclosed. And technically you bought it as is though,
didn't you?

Speaker 7 (18:30):
Yes, But like I said, there was a lot of
weird things that went on with the sale and it
was just very odd. And that's why when they finally.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I understand, but you bought it sight unseen? They said
it was leaking. They said they didn't know about the whole.
Now I want to I want to clarify this because
I remember now this day and I have these notes
and and and here's what I want to say, because
you bought it as is, and they did say there
was some kind of oil leak, and you said, yeah,
way more than an oil leak. There was a hole.
And they said, we didn't know about the whole blah
blah blah. But but technically this was going to be

(19:01):
a hard one. But they offered to sign it over
to you on their own.

Speaker 10 (19:08):
I do have an update about this.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
And you called and talked to him. What did they say?

Speaker 10 (19:13):
Did I did? He blamed everything on his wife, and
he said his.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Wife should have never offered to.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
Basically give the money back, but now he just wants.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
To there was no money back. The wife never offered
to give money back. The wife said they would simply
sign the title over right right exactly. And what did
he say? She didn't have authorization.

Speaker 12 (19:37):
To do it.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
And they're going to have to work it out in court.
That is what he's obligated to. But the funny part
is I had called him from three different numbers here
at the station, and he called me back on two
different ones and hung up as soon as I answered
the phone.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
So he's hiding, yes, and he can't leave a message.
He's a crook. And that's what this whole thing he
lied about the boat. He tried to get me to
pay the full amount. The engine turned out to not
even be good. And it's supposed to be leaking in
the lower unit. The engine is the upper unit. It
turned out to be no good at all. The only

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thing good on the boat was the leaking lower unit.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You know, you know what.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Taking the small claims court and you can mention this
show and all of it.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yep, I have the recordings. Good good, I'll figure it
out in court. But that just tells you what type
of scumbag that you deal with sometimes.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the man is The man is
a scumbag in my opinion, because you know, don't tell
me your wife didn't have authority, you chaven his pig bastard.
Don't tell me that. Crav I am so tired of people,
I am tired of lying, cheating, ripoffs. Now, having said that,
let me go back to the transaction. He did tell

(20:56):
you there was an oil league bro, Yes, okay, well,
there was an oil league. You know, I don't know
why you went through with the deal. Let me get
on your case for a minute. Here, Oscar, they told
you there was an oil league for all you know,
it could have been anything. It could have been serious.
Why did you go ahead and buy it?

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Anyway, They had had a mechanic look at it, and
he said it was the lower seal And I made
a mistake.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
Trust me, I learned my lessons.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
But take him the small claims court and we'll follow
this one along for sure. Three oh three seven one
three talk seven one three eight two five five. Hey mckintrick,
I'm not a big fan of you either. I kind
of think a scumbag. In fact, I might put you
on the sleeze brigade anyway. By the way, someone who

(21:46):
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twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven
one three talks seven one three eight two five five Martha,
what's going on? Martha?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Hi, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
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(23:38):
So all right, what's going on, Martha?

Speaker 13 (23:42):
Yes? I had leased out a airbnb for the twenty
third of this month.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Have you done? You leased it, meaning you're renting for
the twenty six You said.

Speaker 13 (23:57):
No, I had rented it starting the twenty of this Oh.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay, suck. And so you were renting it? And what
was it?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Where was it?

Speaker 13 (24:08):
It was on a wrappa hole in Liverpool?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Oh? So why did you do a local airbnb.

Speaker 13 (24:15):
Because I'm trying to find a house?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (24:20):
Because I had sold mine?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
And when were you gonna When were you going to
leave the B and B?

Speaker 13 (24:26):
I was supposed to leave on the October twenty third.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
So you were renting it for a whole month.

Speaker 13 (24:33):
Yes, I was going to rent it for a whole month.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now, now let me ask you something. Are you using
the right term?

Speaker 11 (24:39):
It?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Was it bed and breakfast or was it some other
kind of vacation home by owner?

Speaker 13 (24:46):
Well, they haven't listed as a furnished Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, got it?

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
And what happened.

Speaker 13 (24:55):
Me and my husband showed up on the twenty third
to to look at it and to rent it and
to stay there. And the gentleman seemed very nice at
first when he introduced himself. He came down and introduced
himself to us when we drove up.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And after that, now were you getting Was this a room?
Let me ask you. Was this a room and a
home or was this a whole home? Or was this
an apartment? Tell me what it was.

Speaker 13 (25:22):
This was a basement unit.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Okay, got it? Bath okay?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So then what happened in his health?

Speaker 14 (25:29):
Got it?

Speaker 13 (25:30):
The gentleman was very nice at first, and then after
that he went upstairs to his home and I called Lisa,
which is the one that I'm supposed to be dealing
with when I rented the place, because I sent her
the money and the deposit, and she said, if you

(25:51):
have any issues, you need to call me and let
me know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
What was the issue that you Why did you contact Lisa?
What was the issue?

Speaker 13 (25:59):
So the issue was the heat in the basement was cold,
and I asked them to turn up the heat because
the heat is controlled by him upstairs.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Okay, that yeah, that's gonna be difficult because basements are
always cooler.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
That would that would probably smoke him out. But Martha,
when have you really needed heat this? Uh? Since the
twenty third? Really? I mean when have you needed heat?

Speaker 13 (26:25):
I needed heat because I'm cold. I'm I'm usually a
cold person.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, this is gonna this is gonna be a hard one.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So what did what did Lisa say?

Speaker 13 (26:36):
She checked with him and he said that it was
seventy four upstairs and I it wasn't seventy four downstairs?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well, of course not, of course not. That's that's that's
the most places, especially an older home.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
How old is his home?

Speaker 13 (26:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (26:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, Martha, I get it. I get what you're saying,
I really do. But but was it intolerable? I mean,
what was the temperature downstairs?

Speaker 13 (27:03):
I was cold? I didn't I couldn't. I couldn't stand
the cold it was. It was the low seventy four
for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, I get it, I get it. So then what happened?
I mean, I don't want you. I don't want you
to think that. I don't want you to think that
I I don't think you have a case. But in
some cases like this, it gets to be nitpicking. Could
be unless it was really untolerable and you don't even
know what the temperature was, you just know you didn't

(27:29):
like it. So theoretically, let's just say you wanted it
way warmer and it would and it would smoke him
out upstairs. I mean, at some point there's got to
be a reasonable this, And I'm not suggesting you're unreasonable.
I'm not doing that at all. So what happened? What's
the ultimate today? You just did it a few days ago,

(27:50):
So what's going on?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Did you move out?

Speaker 15 (27:52):
I did.

Speaker 13 (27:53):
I didn't want to stay there because he made us
so uncomfortable when he came downstairs and knocked on the
knocked on the door, and he came in waving his
hands and goes, I mean here to check the temperature,
waving his hands around, and he goes, I don't know
what to tell you. It feels like seventy four and
hearing it feels it's seventy four upstairs. So if it's
if it's going to be a problem with the heat,
it's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Okay, So can okay, are they keeping did you pay
the whole month up front. I did, okay, Uh, how
much would you pay.

Speaker 13 (28:29):
Two one hundred plus thirteen hundred dollars deposit?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Wait a minute, and you paid two thousand, one hundred you.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Said, yeah, plus a deposit. How much was the deposit?

Speaker 13 (28:44):
A thousand, three hundred?

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Now is he.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Keeping everything including the deposit?

Speaker 13 (28:50):
They told me that I couldn't get my deposit for
sixty days?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Was that in the contract?

Speaker 13 (28:57):
That's what she's saying. Yeah, it's per contract, Martha.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
You're not going to want to hear what I have
to say. I think you're going to lose it. I
think you'll lose this case if you try to take
it to small games court. Maybe you want to try.
You don't even have any proof what the temperature was.
Are you out of there now for good?

Speaker 16 (29:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't mind calling Lisa. I don't mind having one
of our deputies. I'll have D or Doc. Who wants it?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I mean, Doc? Do you want to do it?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Doc? Or what? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (29:23):
I'll I have a question though.

Speaker 17 (29:25):
They're giving her back her twenty one hundred and they're
going to give her her thirteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
No they're not, No, they're not.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
They're going to give her back her deposit of thirteen
hundred in sixty days, which is reasonable. They want, okay,
what they do with the twenty one hundred for the rent.
They're saying, she rented it and she's moving out on
her own accord. That's what they're saying. She moved in
two days ago. They're saying, tough, you moved out. We

(29:53):
didn't kick you out. He just said it's not going
to work, meaning he's not going to turn up the heat.
And I kind of don't blame him. I I really
believe that unless Martha had some temperature readings of some
kind and some proof. I'm just trying to be honest
with her, she's going to lose this one. I mean,
people can easily exist in sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Degrees very comfortably, very very comfortable.

Speaker 16 (30:15):
A space heater, Martha.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Not even a space heater, I mean, what about a sweater.
I can't believe, Martha. And again, I'm sorry, I don't
want you to feel bad, but I can't believe it
was that bad.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
What did your husband say about it?

Speaker 13 (30:33):
Well, my husband's usually a hot person, and for him
being hot, and he indicated, yes, it was, it was cooler.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Than normal than.

Speaker 11 (30:45):
Maybe it was.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
What about a sweater?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's a temporary lodging for a month. Am I?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
No, I'm asking for feedback. I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Am I being unreasonable? And I usually ask my morons
and my texters? Am I being unreasonable? You don't. You
don't have to uh, you don't have to agree with me.
I just don't think. I don't think it was worth
leaving without at least getting some proof. I mean, we're
talking about you did what was called a constructive eviction.
You literally left, and now you're going to try to

(31:21):
get your money back. I'll bet you. In the agreement
it probably says there are no refunds. I don't know,
but but Martha did Is was it that bad that
you had to leave?

Speaker 14 (31:36):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (31:36):
Yes, okay, I'm not going to be treated.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Like that and treated like what he said. It's really
hot and I can't turn it up any further.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean when.

Speaker 12 (31:47):
You no, I know that, and I I'm not disputing that.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm saying, let's say you're one hundred correct. Are you
saying a sweater and maybe some sweatpants couldn't have helped,
at least temporarily for the month.

Speaker 13 (32:06):
You probably could. Why should I have to change my
clothes just to be accommodating for myself?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you, Martha. We'll see it. Take it easy. I
was gonna call. I'm not even gonna call on this one.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's totally in my opinion, that's totally unreasonable. I want opinions,
give me, give me texts, and give me calls.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
That is totally unreasonable.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, listen, in life, come on, man, in life, there
are times things are not perfect. There are just times
things are not perfect, and your ride with it. For
God's sakes. If you pick battles each and every day
like this, you're not gonna get through life. Now. If

(32:46):
it was so terrible and you're like, oh, you're so cold,
that's one thing, but come on, really, I'm not you know,
I got people with real problems.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I know I know that that somebody referred it to
the show, and I should be really nice to her,
and I'm trying to be nice. But why should I
put myself out? Why should I wear a sweater? It's
for a month, and really, am I wrong? Are people
going to say, hey, you're not a consumer advocate because

(33:23):
you don't care to each and every desire and whim
of people who feel entitled to some kind of I mean, really,
I'm sorry, I gotta take a break.

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Hi Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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Well, every text is saying that the woman is picking
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few say why didn't she just get a little space heater?
I know what she'd probably say, why should I have to?
I mean, listen, life is never perfect. Now, I know
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Speaker 3 (37:17):
Okay, now, Chris, what's going on? Hi? Chris?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Hi?

Speaker 19 (37:25):
Tom? So, I don't know how much you know about it?
Are been told, so I'll try and do my bust to.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Well, it's been summarized a little, A little something about
your daughter in sports?

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Go ahead, Yeah, So.

Speaker 19 (37:39):
My daughter attends of private school that specializes in learning disabilities.
She's been there since sixth grade. She's a freshman in
high school.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Now does she have learning disabilities?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
She does?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And when you say a special school, it's not mainstreamed
with special program like an Individual Edge Occasional program what
they call an IEP. Or is it a separate school?

Speaker 19 (38:04):
So it's a it's a separate school, So it's not
it's not affiliated with like Denver Public schools or Terry
Creek schools. Is it private supper private school?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Okay? Got it?

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Okay?

Speaker 19 (38:15):
And so she's an athlete. She loves sports and a
few years ago she really in particular got into running
track and now cross country, and she's probably the most
disciplined person I've ever met my life, super hard working
and that has really really paid off, and she's doing
very very well. At the beginning of her freshman year,

(38:38):
we looked into, in coordination with the school, trying to
have her participate at one of her one of the
public schools, because the school that she attends essentially doesn't
have a cross country team right now.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
And many times, like I don't know about for private schools,
but for homeschooling, they allow sometimes those children to participate
in school sports.

Speaker 19 (39:04):
Yeah, so absolutely so. The current team, the girls team,
consists of my daughter and another girl who is sporadically
there because she participates in another sport. So generally when
my daughter goes to practice, she's just running by herself.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
So she goes, what do you.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Mean when she goes to practice, is your girl going
to another school to participate.

Speaker 19 (39:28):
No, So, the school that she's at right now, they
have a team that participates in two A three A. Well,
I won't say they have a team. They say they
have a team that participates in two A and three
A cross country, but they don't have enough girls to
actually feel the team. Oh, my daughter just participates individually.
She goes, so and she's doing very well.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
When you say she participates individually, I'm still confused. Does
she participate individually at another school or in this school?

Speaker 19 (39:56):
She doesn't. At her school she participates, so her school
goes to like a larger event. So like last weekend,
there were like twenty and.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Your daughter's the only one representing her school.

Speaker 19 (40:07):
So at this particular meet, it was her and the
other girl who actually who went, So the two of
them went and represented they and so.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
So you literally have people from all these other schools
and you have two girls from that school.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 19 (40:23):
And so in the specific event she ran last weekend,
she she individually, she won the event, but her she
doesn't have a team, so the team didn't get points
to win, but she won individually.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Is kind of how it goes.

Speaker 19 (40:36):
And there were, you know, around twenty different schools there.
So we've been back and forth trying to get a
waiver with chessa a waiver for what for her to
participate at another school that actually does have a team.
And the idea is like, really, she just wants to
meet other girls and she wants to run with other
girls rather than like running by herself and practice and

(40:58):
then participating.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
But now when you say a waiver, so you have
to have a waiver to do it. Let's say they
did not have a team. Would you be able to
just have or participate.

Speaker 19 (41:12):
Or not what would normally happen, You would still need
some sort of waiver. They'd have to allow you to
do it. So they have I don't know what to.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Do other kids. Do other kids at private schools have
such waivers or are you trying to plow new ground.

Speaker 19 (41:30):
So they other kids do get waivers. So if your
school does not have a specific sport, So for instance,
if you went to just a Denver public school and
you wanted to play water polo and your school doesn't
have a water polo team, but another school somewhere does,
you could get a waiver to participate at that school.
Theoretically they could give you that. So the problem that

(41:52):
we're kind of running into though, is when we reach
out to Chessa. Chessa then contacts the school my daughter attends,
and the well my daughter attend says, well, we do
have a team. But I just it's like I'm hitting
my head against the wall because I talked to them.
The athletic director. And I'm like, you don't have a team.
You have you know, my daughter and a part time girl,

(42:13):
so you have like one and a half participants.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
And if my daughter wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
You who approves this special waiver the school you want
her to.

Speaker 19 (42:21):
Go to, So Chasa has to get involved.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
And then who is chasa?

Speaker 19 (42:27):
Chassa is the governing body of all Colorado athletics and
they have all kinds of issues with is.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
That chasaha SSA?

Speaker 19 (42:39):
I think it is. So it's actually a private entity.
It sounds like it might would be a government entity,
but it's a private organization.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I get it. So when you try to process, when
you try to process a waiver and it do you
have to as part of the waiver you have to
declare that they don't have a team at her school. Yes,
And because the school refuses to acknowledge that, you hit
a dead end.

Speaker 19 (43:07):
I hit a dead end. And for two reasons this
she feels crazy. Like Number one, so she's she's attending
a school specifically because of a learning disability. And you know,
we've had meetings just in terms of her learning with
Denver Public schools where Denver Public Schools say yeah, this
is the best place for her, absolutely, and now she's

(43:28):
attending a place that's the best place for her does
not have a full team, and then she's essentially.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Not I know you're saying.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
You're saying she's being penalized for having disabilities because she's
forced to go to that school and that school only
has two girls on the team. What I want to
know is this, So the requirement is to get on
another team. Is that the current school she or anyone

(43:57):
is at must not have a team?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Is that the rule for everyone?

Speaker 19 (44:01):
So it is the rule for them, but it's a
little bit more nuanced than that, so they well, but.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
In other words, they're not singling out your daughter.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
They're saying, no matter who applied to us or wanted
a waiver, if their school has a team, they can't
do it.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
So that's a real simple answer, Chris.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
In another situation, not involving your daughter, if there was
a child who did not want to participate on their
team and wanted to go to another team, would they
be allowed if their current school had a team.

Speaker 19 (44:43):
So I'm going to add one thing to that. It's
it's pretty close to that.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I know what you're going to add that her school
doesn't really have a team. But please help me out.
I'm trying to parse through. This is the reason they're
giving that she has a team, and that same rule
would be applied to anyone. Is that's a yes or no?

Speaker 19 (45:05):
It would, But I want to add one. There's a distinct.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Just go ahead.

Speaker 19 (45:09):
What's the difference in JB and varsity? So if they
were to still say that they had a junior varsity team,
then there would be no issue. But because they say
they have a varsity team, which but they only have,
you know, two students, which that still doesn't constitute a team.
And then I'll explain why that doesn't constitute a team
as well.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
At the school.

Speaker 19 (45:30):
Their size to participate, to have a team, to participate
and field enough girls for a two A or three
A school, you have to have five girls. They only
have two. If it were a larger school, you would
need seven girls if it were the largest schools. I
get it to field a team. And so the idea
that they continue to say that that they have a

(45:52):
team just but.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Why are they doing that? It seems to me the
school I don't think no, no, no, no, I wait, wait, wait,
we can all agree. No one's going to say no
one's singling out your daughter saying we're going to make
it difficult for her, right, I mean, this is just
red tape?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
It is?

Speaker 19 (46:08):
It is just red tape.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Okay, So why would the school then insist they have
a team if there's only one and a half girls.

Speaker 19 (46:18):
The only thing that I could think of is like
thinking toward the future. If they so, they would have
to change their their status to like a JV school,
which a lot of a lot of independent or private
schools tend to do because they tend to not have
enough or have a lot of sciences at a high level.

(46:39):
Why they are you know, sticking to this and like
I I mean, that's the only thing that I can
think of that they're looking that, like, oh, in the future,
perhaps will have enough.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
There are a couple of things. There are a couple
of ways to tackle this.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
First and foremost, I do believe you have a special case.
I really believe it, and I really believe it is
a case for discrimination the fact that she's falling into
this category. And I also believe Americans with Disabilities Act
would apply. If you got an attorney to file a lawsuit. Now,
I hate litigation. I hate the idea, but I do

(47:15):
believe you would win, okay, because it's a clear distinction,
and you make the argument, well you're not saying, you know,
they're calling it a team, but in essence, your daughter
is being discriminated against because she's with a school. And
by the way, is the school only for children with disabilities?

Speaker 19 (47:36):
So I want to say anyone theoretically could go there,
but knowing the school as well, I mean, it is
really just what is.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
The disability we're talking about?

Speaker 19 (47:46):
With a nonverbal learning disability and then very slow processing
which has been diagnosed from Are.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Most of the kids there with disabilities or not?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Now are there any kids there that don't have learning disabilities?

Speaker 19 (48:02):
So they label a lot of many of the students
as like twice exceptional where you know, and they're diagnostic
certain things that they tend to score mo on and
certain things maybe even exceptionally high on.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I mean, I got to know, all right, Next question,
Next next question here, next question? Have you have you
consulted an attorney for disabilities?

Speaker 19 (48:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Okay, Now there is another way around this.

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Speaker 3 (49:24):
Eight two five five. Okay, Wow, this.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Is a weird. This is a weird situation, and we're
gonna have to put this in someone's hands to do
some investigation.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Chris. Another way around this.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
There are things where there are individual educational plans where
people have actually enrolled in one school, but the IEP
makes it necessary for them to attend most of their classes,
if not all of them, at another school, but tech
they're enrolled not in that school.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Did you ever explore that?

Speaker 19 (50:08):
I have not explored that yet, but I can also
imagine an issue that extends this a tiny bitch I wish.
I'm also kind of concerned about SAW. I actually worked
at another private school, and we've considered my daughter went
there through fifth grade, and she could possibly go here
because it does offer like additional services that could help

(50:30):
support her. But CHESSA has another rule that I we're
going to try and get over that if a student
leaves one school, So this year, she participated in a
cross country if she leaves her school and goes to
any other school, that she'd have to set out for
three hundred and sixty five days and not participate in
that sport, which is another like draconian rule that CHESSA has.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
You know what they're trying You know what they're trying
to prevent?

Speaker 19 (50:55):
Right, I do? I do know?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Now tell me what they're trying to prevent them What
do you think it is?

Speaker 19 (51:00):
They're trying to like creating super teams.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That's exactly right, You're you're wise. That's exactly they're trying
to keep people from manipulating so they don't have to move.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
They just have to create a super.

Speaker 19 (51:14):
Team even if they move.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
This rule applause no what I mean is what I
mean is they're trying to keep that from happening, that
people could sit where they want, have kids go to
another school, build.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
A super team.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
They're trying to I understand why they have the rule,
and it doesn't always apply. I get that, I get that,
but but really I just don't understand why her current
school is insisting they have a varsity team when they

(51:50):
do they.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Get funding for that? Do they is their funding for that? What?
What downside would there be for them not.

Speaker 19 (51:57):
Having They have a lot of sports that are purely
junior varsity, and I don't know if it's a way
to just like have an additional sport that they list
of being, you know, we have X amount of varsity sports.
I really don't know what.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
The well have you ever asked them? Have you ever
asked them?

Speaker 19 (52:15):
I mean, it seemed like the point that they were
getting at is they wanted to build a program over
and have.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
You Okay, but they didn't, but they didn't.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Have you ever asked them if they would consider dropping
the varsity designation for track?

Speaker 19 (52:32):
I have and they said, so it's great, it's cross countries.
This particular thing is cross country.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Yeah, I have and yeah, they're.

Speaker 19 (52:40):
They're not willing to do that. So we've had many
conversations because I did.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
They say why they are not willing to do it.

Speaker 19 (52:48):
I don't think I have a good reason why.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Now I'm going to ask that original question again.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I'm going to ask the original question again.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Are there other situations where a team where a school
does have a varsity team, but a player goes elsewhere?

Speaker 19 (53:04):
So No, I don't.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (53:07):
So if they are actually a varsity team, you know,
say they were a varsity basketball team, the student would
not be able to get a waiver to go elsewhere.
The only thing I would imagine, though, like if you
had only four players on a varsity basketball.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
No, I get it, I get it. There's not enough
to make there's not enough to make a team. Look
at you don't have to keep telling me you don't
consider it a real team. I understand that the question
I'm asking is not whether it's a real team. But
if a school declares it has a team, doesn't preclude

(53:42):
them from playing elsewhere? The answer is yes, it does.
In fact, I have someone texting me who is part
of who is part of the Colorado High School activities.
C it's it's c H SAA. Yes, And they told

(54:04):
me that this is normal. They don't say it's right,
they say it's normal. She has a team. She's required
to play at her team. Now you can get a
special waiver. But again, when you applied to this waiver,
did you tell them even though there is a team,
there is only really one participant.

Speaker 19 (54:25):
Yes, yes, and elected the school. So they contacted the
school and they talked to the athletic director, and the
athletic director, you know, reiterates that they have a team.
So I'm just like going in a circle.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
But does the athletic director say there are five kids
on the team, one kid, one and a half. What
does the athletic director say.

Speaker 19 (54:46):
I'm not part of that conversation. I don't know what
he told them, But in our emails, like I've made
it clear to the person on Chassa's side that they
only have two girls on the team.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I want to recap this for people, and if they
have suggestions, I want them to text me, and I'm
recapping it for one of our deputies. I'll probably give
this a deputy d over here. Here's what it is.
His daughter has a disability. She goes to a small school.
There's only two kids that participate in cross country, and
really only one the other girl comes sometimes. Because of that,

(55:21):
his daughter cannot participate on another school's team. If they
did not have a varsity team, she would be able
to participate, But the coach keeps saying they have a team.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
When they really don't.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
And he would like to socialize his daughter with other
athletes and get her on a real team. That is okay.
So I believe that we should talk to the athletic
director at the school you're at. We should talk to
the Activities Commission Association.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
We should talk.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I mean, really, come on, this is just and Americans
with disabilities. We should probably contact someone, some attorney who
deals with the Americans. Don't we have an attorney, an
angel who deals with Americans with disabilities? Maybe just for housing,
I don't know, but let's try to find one. Please,

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Martino here three oh three seven one three talk seven
one three eight two five five Richard, what is going
on in your life? What's happening in Richard? Thank you doing?

Speaker 12 (57:51):
Tom a man?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
What's happening with you?

Speaker 12 (57:54):
You have a connection Tom doing good? Thank you? Then
you have a connection with Ticketmaker.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Now, Kachina, do we have an angel over a ticket Master?

Speaker 10 (58:04):
Suzanne would probably no better. I can certainly thought we did,
but anyway, I thought, we don't know if we still
have one.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Do you have a list of our angel list?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Okay, well we'll look, but it doesn't matter, Richard, we
can still put someone on it.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
What's going on, man?

Speaker 12 (58:21):
Well, a couple of months ago I bought some tickets
to a concert, and about a month ago I got
an email from Ticketmaster and the email basically said your
your ticket transfer is on the way to tis some
random name, and so.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Did you buy them? Did you buy them through ticket Master?

Speaker 11 (58:47):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Okay, yes?

Speaker 12 (58:49):
And so I pulled up my account a ticket Master
and all six of my tickets support transferred without my
authorization or or anything. And so I called right away
and put in.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
A So somebody, somebody, what do they do hack or
to hack into your account or something?

Speaker 12 (59:07):
I guess so I'm not big.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Well, let me ask you something I don't know. In general,
when you buy tickets and Ticketmaster, can you have them
transferred if you want to other people? I mean, yeah,
that must be like a regular thing, right, Yeah, And.

Speaker 12 (59:23):
I'm a little bit older and I'd rarely go to
any concerts, so I really don't buy anything on Ticketmaster.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
So yeah, yeah, let me ask my I'll ask my girlfriend.
But in any case, uh, what happened then?

Speaker 12 (59:37):
So anyway, so I called right away and put it
in a fraud report and they said they'd get back
to me within three to five days. Ten days later,
I called and, uh, check them up. I hadn't heard,
and they told me to wait. So long story short,
I called a couple of times and both and two
or three times they told me just to wait and try.

(59:58):
They'd call me or email me. And then so I
followed up again today after not hearing from them. It's
spent about three weeks, and the person on phone today
said that the case had been closed. Yeah, and so
I pulled up my account. It's still the same thing.
They're still transferred to somebody else and nobody ever contacted
me or any think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
So okay, here's what I found out for my girlfriend.
Tickets purchased from Ticketmaster can be transferred to other people.
And there's two conditions. One you have to have an account.
Two they have to have an account, they have to
log in you have to log into your account and

(01:00:40):
transfer it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
That's the only way it can be done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So there might be restrictions based on tickets if they're
really VIP tickets and all that. Who are the tickets for.

Speaker 12 (01:00:55):
Yeah, it's for Alan Jackson and they are premium seats
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
No premium seats. But it's not like a concert that
people are dying to go to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:01:06):
Oh no, I mean it's I don't it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I mean it's not the same as a tailor swift
ticket or something. So uh no, okay, So here's the deal.
Someone hacked into your account. Do you have a two
party verification or or a second or whatever they call it.
Do you have where they text or email you?

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:01:29):
Not, I don't think so. They when I when I
call in, they text me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
But that's wait wait wait when you when you log
into your account or do you you do log in,
they don't text you an nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:01:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Oh man, we got a problem here. This is happening
to a lot of people. How the hell did they
get your log in information?

Speaker 12 (01:01:56):
I have no idea. And you know important part of
the problem too, is well, the big problem is the
fraud department. You know, never contacting me and just close
the case with doing nothing.

Speaker 19 (01:02:10):
Is your password for the ticket Master account the same
password you would use elsewhere?

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Okay, who did they the guy that they transferred to,
the woman who do they transfer to?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Let's let's try to find this.

Speaker 12 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I've gotten an email address which is b hold
on No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
No, not on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
We might do it off the air.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You have somebody's email? Did you email that person?

Speaker 12 (01:02:39):
No, this is just from the email I got from Ticketmaster.
It has their name and their email address of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
The person of the person who now has your tickets.

Speaker 12 (01:02:51):
Yes, and it's definitely a scam email.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Well, okay, what is the email? What the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
What is it?

Speaker 12 (01:02:59):
And d w C six six five six six at
gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Did you try emailing it? No, d w C d
w C six six five sixty six yep at Gmail,
So they they may have just opened up a temporary
email to do this. Do you have the person's name
they were transferred to.

Speaker 12 (01:03:31):
Yeah, it says just Block j I. S h l o. P.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Wait, that's the first name, j Shlop.

Speaker 12 (01:03:42):
Yeah. Well that's the first and last name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, okay, the first name is just j I. S.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
H Yeah, who the hell? And what's the last name?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Block?

Speaker 19 (01:03:54):
L O P that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Come on, bro, is there such person?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Go on face, let's come on people, let's go. Let's
go search for these people. I mean, is there a
such person? No, just launches. No, No, I don't see anything,
is uh man?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
They even probably faked the name. I don't know. This
is crazy shop.

Speaker 12 (01:04:23):
That's why it's crazy. I think the fraud department justosed,
didn't do anything, just closing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Well did you call him back and say don't close it?

Speaker 12 (01:04:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
I called him back.

Speaker 12 (01:04:32):
And today, well today I'm talking to and put in
another request.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
But and is this a concert in Denver?

Speaker 12 (01:04:42):
No, it's in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Oh you were going to travel to see Alan Jackson?
Are you sure it's not good? Josh? Is it just
or is it? There are a lot of Josh lops.

Speaker 12 (01:04:57):
No, this is just Jay I agent, maybe by mistake
lop and uh and it's Alan Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And I can't believe that ticketmaster won't do anything about this. Listen,
uh b bow, Deputy bus, Let's call Ticketmaster and find
out what There's got to be somebody a ticketmaster that'll
do something about this. Okay, this is weird we have
hold on. Richard, Deputy Bowl will talk to you. We

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Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
So this scam is really bad, folks, really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
So it is a ticketmaster scam where people are well
the ticketmaster doesn't perpetrate the scam. But people are hacking
into accounts and they are stealing the tickets. They're basically
transferring into a to themselves. Obviously this name isn't real
jish Lop and the email address is undeliverable, and uh

(01:06:58):
so you need what are they call that? I call
it second party verification, but it's not. It's called I
don't know, it's called two that's what it is. Two
factor verification. So when you log into something, they send
you the OTP or they send you a code or
a text or an email or something in addition to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Just you logging in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Now the the the other.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Thing people are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
And Apple does this, and this is what I love biometrics.
I think biometrics should be everything, absolutely everything. A fingerprint,
I mean, or iris, no one can no one can
hack that. So when I log into my a lot
of my accounts now it does facial recognition or it

(01:07:48):
does fingerprints, but I think only Apple devices have that option.
Right now, hang on, and we're gonna we're really gonna
take all of these calls, so just hang on. Now,
why does it say that Don's been on? Has he

(01:08:09):
been on that long? Don? What's going on with you, sir?
What's going on? Don I'm sorry you wade it so long, Yes, sir,
that's all right.

Speaker 20 (01:08:15):
I don't mind if you can help me. So I've
lived in my townhome community about eighteen years and they
towed my vehicle back in two thousand and nine illegally
took them small flames courts and they ended up losing,
so in revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Wait, how'd they lose? Why did they lose? That's unusual.
Why did they lose?

Speaker 20 (01:08:37):
Okay, so they towed my car after three days. You know,
I had a junky old pickup truck because I drive
over the road and I would take it out to
Common City and park it there for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
But why why did they Why did they tow it though?
Did it not have a registration?

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
No, it had a flat tire.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Oh yeah, they call that incapacitated.

Speaker 20 (01:09:00):
Right, but it was in my parking spot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
No, I get it. And how did you win? Tell
me what happened? How did you win?

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
Because my law they can. They got to put a
note that we're going to tow this car, and then
they got to wait three more days before they can
tow it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Well, actually, actually that's that's a new law, and there
are new restrictions. However, there are exceptions to that law,
but apparently they didn't apply to you because you won,
so you took them to small claims court and got
your money back.

Speaker 20 (01:09:31):
Well, no, I got money plus.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
So anyway, how much did you win?

Speaker 20 (01:09:37):
I've won like six dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
And do you rent there? Do you rent there?

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:09:42):
I own?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I'm okay, okay, that is very unusual. Hold on a second,
I'm going to come back to you. Who did you
sue the hoa? Yes, you are really the man. I
want to talk to you about this and more coming up.
Hang on, I'm Tom Martine. This guy actually suit his
HOA for towing in one Wow. That and more coming
up on the Troubleshooter Show stick Around. We're also going

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to try to find out more about this ticketmaster hack.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
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Ripped.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
You need advice so you don't have.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
Run as fast as Cam.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Is gonna help?

Speaker 13 (01:11:01):
Come man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
My number twenty four to seven is three oh three
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Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Two seven eight four sixty six. Welcome one and all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I think we discovered, as this show often does, we
discover scams, ripoffs, and and all kinds of schemes before
anyone else. And then of course you see them show
up on TV and and I love the their trick.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
They claim, of course they.

Speaker 18 (01:11:39):
Investigated it and uncovered it and such a game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
But those who listen to this show hear about things
weeks and weeks and weeks in advance.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
And one thing I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
We discovered a scam, and I looked it up, and
there's a lot of people complaining about it. Their Ticketmaster
accounts hacked into and the tickets transferred out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
What do you do about it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
He's pretty serious. I don't know what you do about it.
Who's handling that? Who did we give this to? Bow?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
So bo? Did you get his information? Are you checking
on it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Of course the email that they transferred it to, not
the email, but the email's undeliverable. A lot of times
people start a temporary email, so that was a BO.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
He's looking into that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
And then we had don We want to go back
to who lives in a town home community and he
has an issue with an HOA.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
First and foremost, he won.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
He took him to small claims court and won when
they told him because they didn't toell him, according to
the new law, they have to give him notice. Now
that applies all except when you block traffic, or you're
in a thoroughfare, a right of way, or someone else's
a spot. There is no they don't have to give

(01:13:00):
you warning and all of that. But in his case,
they definitely had to give him warning and he won.
So now what continue your story? Don you've lived there
for nineteen years. They towed your car, oh, eighteen years.
They towed your car for a flat tire. You won,
you got six hundred plus. What happened then?

Speaker 20 (01:13:21):
Okay? So then on that falling by eight months later,
ten months later, in June or July of twenty ten, ten,
they took away my parking Wait.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Wait two thousand wait wait ho ho ho two thousand
and ten.

Speaker 20 (01:13:39):
Yeah, this is my car was towed in two thousand
and nine, and that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Wait a minute, wait a minute, there was wait wait wait,
hold hold on when you went to small claims court
it was back in two thousand and nine. Yes, yes,
there was no requirement for warning back then. But I
don't know how you want. I don't want to I
don't want to get I don't want to get into it.
You won, so I okay, So they told your car
nine they in two thousand and nine. Okay, okay, got it?

(01:14:08):
So why are we calling about this now?

Speaker 20 (01:14:11):
That's well, that's not the problem. What happened after that,
even with me, They took away the parking spot that
I hadn't runed in my garage where they towed my
car from.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And then and then oh hold on, okay, so the
HOA took away your your parking spot in what.

Speaker 20 (01:14:28):
Year in twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Okay, okay, I don't know where. By the way, people,
when I tell you, people think chronologically.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
This is a prime example.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
He started out in two thousand and nine, we're now
in twenty ten.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
So what happened to keep going?

Speaker 20 (01:14:45):
Okay, so you know, so now my parking spot is probably.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Why did they wait? Wait, what was the excuse for
taking your parking space away?

Speaker 20 (01:14:53):
Okay? So they said I was parking in the filing,
which this is wonderful because in the same exact tho,
because the main drag goes right past the end of
my driveway and the neighbors to the west of me
can still park art of there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Did they give you? Did they give you another parking space?

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:15:12):
Over and away over by another hole.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Okay, I got it, I got it. Okay, so keep going.
They took away your parking space near near the townhouse, okay,
and and okay, got it right in my garage.

Speaker 20 (01:15:28):
And so with doing that, they had to take away
my neighbors next door to me to the east the
same way. So we're the only two people out of
eighty units that can that park them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I get it, I get it, I get it. So
so but keep going, Man, I don't know where we're
going with this story. This is only twenty ten, and
we're okay, go ahead.

Speaker 20 (01:15:49):
Now, I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Ees, I hope you do. Okay, you sure we don't
have to go through twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Okay, keep going.

Speaker 20 (01:15:56):
No, no, no, no, we're going to jup right to present.
About six months ago, door Dashin, I met this lady
who's an arbitrator, and we ended up talking about townhomes,
about things, and she told me that they're required by
law if they're going to move parking spots, that they
have to do a parking study in order to change

(01:16:18):
spots in the town home community.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Okay, don she's wrong. Do that she's wrong? Oh really, yeah,
but let's let's not go there here. I got another way,
I got another proposition. Okay, let's assume she was correct. Okay,
let's assume that in two thoy ten they did not go.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Through the proper procedure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Let's, for argument's sake, let's say that's true. They did
not do it properly. In twenty ten, you are so
past the statute of limitations that you could never do
anything about it ever.

Speaker 20 (01:17:00):
I mean my parking spots now mine, no matter what,
even though I'm the only one singled out for this, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Been fourteen years. Yeah, I know, and like I said,
I didn't know, Don, Don, I'm gonna listen, Don, I
got it, seriously, Bro, I got to take some other
calls now you know you are.

Speaker 20 (01:17:21):
Can you give me a lawyer I can talk to
you about h please, That's why I called then a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yeah, let's see a lawyer that does.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Okay, you want to pay for a consultation. We got
to find a lawyer. We don't okay, okay, okay. Brad
O'Brien O'Brien legal Services. He's a real estate attorney and
he can talk to you all about HOA. So, Brian
O'Brien legal services. Brad, his name is Brad O'Brien. Let

(01:17:50):
me give you his number. Here's his number, seven to
zero three seven zero seventy three.

Speaker 20 (01:17:58):
Eighty eight seventy three eighty eighty.

Speaker 14 (01:18:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
But can I talk to you as a friend here?
I really, I really do want to talk to you.
Don't waste your time, okay, don't waste your money. I'm serious, Bro,
I mean, why would you well.

Speaker 20 (01:18:16):
Because I fall. I have to walk across a whole
thing lane of ice. How are you you set up
with the sun? I have to subverse ice and I
have eight.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
But do you understand this condition has existed for fourteen years?
Do you know what the statute of limitary? Do you
know what the statute of limitation means?

Speaker 20 (01:18:38):
Yes? I absolutely do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
What does it mean? No? No, you don't know what
does it mean?

Speaker 20 (01:18:42):
It means if you only have a certain amount of
time to address an issue before times the clock starts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
And there's two different there's two different statutes of limitations.
There's one that goes from the discovery of a problem
and then usually goes two or three years, okay, depending
on the offense. So you're going to say you discovered
it when.

Speaker 20 (01:19:08):
I've just discovered it in like juno.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Okay. Now, because of that discovery clause, and because that
could indefinitely extend lawsuits, there's another statute limitations that goes
along with it. It's called it's called an absolute.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Statute of limitations. Okay, Now do you know what that means?

Speaker 20 (01:19:34):
I'm not not not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It means that no matter when you discover it, no
matter when you discover it, don't if it's past usually
ten on the outside. Some have an absolute statute of
limitations of twelve years.

Speaker 20 (01:19:53):
Oh okay, so I'm even outside that got you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I believe you're totally outside of it. And I don't
think you have a prayer. But call Brad O'Brien, spend
your money and find that out for yourself. That's okay,
you should get legal advice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I don't want to give you legal advice.

Speaker 20 (01:20:09):
Well, like I said, you know, they they did this
through a retired fire cheap is how what's that done?
Changing the fireplace done?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
I mean you can still call if you want to
spend you know, like I said, I'm not giving you
legal advice. You know there might be some crazy way. Hey,
do me a favor though, if you because you're so tenacious,
you took them to court nine years ago, act you
or whatever in two thousand and nine, I mean, and
you won.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Just let me know what happens, okay.

Speaker 20 (01:20:41):
All right, yeah, I well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
I appreciate that. Three h three seven to one three
talk seven one three A two five five Byron.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Welcome to the show, Byron, what's going on? Man. What's
going on? Byron good Man? What's happening?

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Good Hey, I have a sibling that is not taking
care of their finances properly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
How old is the sibling?

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
Sixty five? He's been on good pain killers for probably
forty years. Oh right, so I think his brain's messed up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Okay, I get where you're going. Hang on and we'll
come back to that. We'll talk about competency. Let's see
we can get our attorney on. Let's see who she
would get. How about Dan mackenzie, Let's try to get
him on. Okay, Kachina, I'm Tom Martinez. We have more
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all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom, Martino. Here,
guess what we found out, Deputy d When we were
talking about, uh, this hacking of Ticketmaster, one guy texted

(01:22:33):
me and said, Oh, that's impossible. How are they going
to hack your Ticketmaster account? Guess what happened? Go ahead,
Dimitri Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Here's a story on CBS News from just a couple
of months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Uh is that local or is that national?

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
National?

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
The network itself, a cyber criminal group claims that stole
personal data belonging to more than five hundred million Ticketmaster customers.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
And so that's what happened, bro, Your your account was hacked?
And what did they say? They could get access to
the account?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Yeah, I mean you could if you have this down
on this. So they had everybody's user name and password.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Yeah, that's what the cyber criminal group claims. And if
you do a keyword search, you get page after page
after page of very fresh, very recent stories and videos.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
So bo scam bo. Okay, he's working on this. Make
sure you tell him about it. Send a link to
bow will you or send a link to Kachina. Do
you have an email or.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Only have your email address?

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Send it to help at troubleshooter dot com and to me, uh, kachina,
get that to bo. So when he talks to them,
they feel a little responsibility for helping.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
For God's sakes. Now back to back to Byron.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Byron says, his brother sixty five and uh is not
taking care of his finances. He's on painkillers. Yes, and
you think, do you think he's incompetent?

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
Well, obviously it's not what most people do. Most people
open their mail and pay their bills.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Now, remember does he live alone?

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Does he get.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Dressed in the morning, does he shower, does he groom?
Does he travel? Does he drive?

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
To some extent of course? Yes? Yeah, well so yeah
he drives. That he probably he should not with the painkillers.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Without him voluntarily, without him voluntarily allowing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
You to take over, it's not going.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
To happen without a court of law declaring him incompetent. Unfortunately,
once that happens, he can't live on his own.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Right. He's actually in rehab right now and he probably
will not get out of rehab, although he's under the
delusi that he will. You know, how there's always hope, right,
How does.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
One stay on pain killers for fourteen years?

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
Now forty years?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Oh? My god?

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, how do you do that without dying?

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Well, that's a good question. I mean we've we've been
trying to figure this out for years. He's been managing.
I mean, you know he'll go he's got pain and
management doctors, and but.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Usually you build a tolerance and you never ever get relief.
I mean, come on, forty ye? What what doses?

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
They change it up?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
It doesn't matter if you change it up, even if
you go from one to another to another. It has
to be literally more dosage. And then here's what happens.
There's no secret. You become more sensitized to pain therefore,
and then less sensitized to the medicine. So you have
to increase the medicine, and your pain is even more

(01:25:59):
than it was in the beginning. And then you keep
increasing medicine because you don't feel it until your heart stops.
That ask prince. I mean, you know, it just happens. So,
so here's what I want to know. What dosage was
he on right before wehab?

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
Oh, morphine? Probably ninety milligrams a day.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Let's not that's impopp I mean, I can't believe it's
only ninety milligrams.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
After all, this time.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
Well, and then he's on a dilauded too, he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Do oh oh my god. So he's stack Okay, that's
called stacking him. He's stacking him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Yeah, they're stacking him for him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Usually that before they kill you at abound. There are
people that have been gone as high as two hundred,
two hundred and forty milligrams of something and add it
up or whatever and then you're dead.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
But man, yeah, I don't so I have no idea
how I mean, ninety grill milligram sounds like a lot
to me, but I don't really know him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Well, it is a lot, but but to I mean, listen, man,
it is a lot. But there are people that tolerate it.
You build it up.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
So no, and I think his he gets hell. So
he's in the rehab place right now, which basically nursing home,
and he focuses really on three things. One is his
pain killers obviously, one is his TV, and the others
his food and that beyond that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Well, those are the three essentials in life. Well that's
what drugs, television, and food.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Yeah, okay, you know I've expanded out to about five
things in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
But Kate Byron listen, here's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
If you not want to know, I want to tell
you if you can get the doctor and yourself and
then some to say he needs art for guardianship. Are
you ready to take that on man?

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Well, yeah, I would be happy to do that. My
sister would be happy to do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
And that's what you need.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Two family members and a doctor.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 12 (01:28:09):
What it is?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Hey, deputy doctor, are you there? I'm here, Tom, Deputy
Dock in coompetency, right, two family members and a doctor.

Speaker 17 (01:28:19):
I never dealt with the elderly patients, Tom, most of
my patients who were under sixty five, so I really
rarely dealt with incompetent incompetency.

Speaker 16 (01:28:30):
So I don't know the laws.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
I don't know the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Laws, Okay, I just I know from past cases it's
been a it was something like that. But I'm asking
my girlfriend declared legally incompetent. Okay, I believe it is
though two family members and a doctor. And of course

(01:28:55):
if there are no family members and then let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
So my girlfriend is saying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
It involves filing a petition with the courts. Okay, it
requires exactly what I said two family members and a caregiver,
or a family member, a caregiver and another party. So
three parties. You petition the courts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
That's it. You file a petition and then the courts
hear it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Sometimes the courts, if the guy protests a lot and
the court sees it necessary, they may order an independent evaluation.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
So it's really.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
If we needed to get that independent evaluation part that
was part of it, because that could be I don't know,
it could be complicated and expensive. I don't it could
be expended. I don't really care about that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
No, it's not going to be. It's not that. It's
not that expensive, by the way. Okay, And here's what's
here's what's crazy. If you do it and take over
as finances, you can reimburse yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
It's true. And it's not you know you can't. Well
you're allowed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
So what what income?

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
This is the one that needs to be reimbursed for
all her time, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
What income does this guy have?

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Oh, very very low, he's got it. He's probably worth
two million in assets. But it's oh, it's all what.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Did he do for a what did he do for
a living, a farmer.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Okay, jeez, how does a farmer get on pain killers?

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Well, he had some pain when he was young, and
he had, uh, your broken bone, and and I honestly,
I can't tell you whether it was justified or not,
but it is. You know, when you go and ask
for pain medicine from doctors, especially back in the eighties
or nineties, you know, there was no real limitation on that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
I know it. I know it, my god.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
Now it's it's a lot harder. And he keeps, he keeps,
he keeps worrying that he's going to get his pain.
Doctors are going to kick him off.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
You know. Here's the thing about. Here's the thing about
pain meds. Here's the thing about. Have you ever been
on pain meds? Byron?

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
No? Not really?

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I mean right here, here's I don't understand well, and
I'm talking about like opiates or the like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Now here's the thing. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
I don't understand what it is. But this is a reality.
Some people can get on pain meds and it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Never ever affects them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
They get off them once they've been on them, they
get on them six weeks, they have to get off
they get on, three weeks, they get off, and and
it's like amazing to me. It just is one of
those things where people aren't affected. Then there's another group
of people who take a pain pill and something about

(01:31:58):
the way they're wired. It just flips a switch. Well,
it's not that they get hooked. They want to be hooked.
I'm going to tell you something. I remember the day,
many many many years ago, many years ago, this doctor
when I had that problems way I mean, I don't

(01:32:20):
even remember how.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Old I was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
I had such back problems and it was like hurting
me like crazy. Somebody that this doctor prescribed me some
a painkiller, and I remember the day when I took
it and my entire world changed. I thought, oh my god,
I never knew life could be so wonderful. I'm serious.

(01:32:44):
That was my first host. So here's what I did.
When I was running out. I asked my other doctors,
a really good friend of mine, I say, hey, doc,
is there a such thing as painkillers being used like
a maintenance thing for depression or for like like anxious
and for making your life better? And he said, absolutely

(01:33:05):
positively not. And he says, you are wired. And he said,
if you like it that much. Get off of them.
It was the wisest thing he ever told me. And
so I don't. I don't even take them. I mean
I did when I had surgery, like real quick. But
I tell those doctors right up front, do not prescribe

(01:33:26):
me a painkiller. I tell him it's in my chart,
and only because it scared the hell out of me.
So there are your brother, I'll bet you there are
people that literally get up in the morning thinking about
when do I take my next dose?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
And I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
I have no idea why some people are wired that way?

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Why do you think? I mean, you're not, And he
is right, that's weird.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
So and my dad was on the same situation. He
had had back being since he was eleven. It's from
a car accident, and so he was on killers his
whole life. And of course they work together, and I,
you know, maybe he got it from there. I don't know, yeah,
forward from there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I asked. I asked a doctor one time, why are
some people wired where it just fills in all these gaps?
I you know, I swear to God, I mean it
would be like it's a road to nowhere and then
you die and you know, and I I I wonder
about that and and people say, well, no, you know,

(01:34:31):
addiction is a physical disease and and there's nothing you
can do about it. And that's bs because it's attitude
you have. You have to say to yourself, all right,
I'm not doing it, you know, And that's behavioral. I'm
not doing it. But you know, if you do do it,
it feels so good. And it's just crazy. But my
heart goes out to people when they're hooked on them.

(01:34:52):
Over the years, I've talked to many people and I
don't get all judgmental, but because I know how they feel.
So anyway, thanks.

Speaker 17 (01:35:00):
To my brother, he was fifty years old and never
took a drug in his life, had shows with surgery,
and after he stopped after three days, he had such
withdrawal symptoms they had to bring him to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Doc.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
It wasn't even withdrawal, it's a mental thing. It's just this.

Speaker 16 (01:35:17):
You get physical withdrawal sometimes, well, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
You can, yes, but it takes a long time, doesn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:35:22):
No, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
It took him.

Speaker 17 (01:35:24):
He was after for two days and he had only
been on it for about a week and he went
into withdrawal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
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(01:36:19):
three seven one three talk three oh three seven one
three eight two five five Man? Do we have to
have interesting discussions on this show and people learn so much?

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Love it? Let's talk to Lauren Lauren? What's happening?

Speaker 14 (01:36:39):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Hi Lauren? Oh, what's going on?

Speaker 15 (01:36:41):
I took my Hi, I took my car to a
Firestone to get an alternator replaced. With my car, they
had to remove the air conditioning to get the alternator.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
What kind of car is?

Speaker 15 (01:36:52):
Then that came twenty ten Nissan Morano. Okay, yeah, And
so I came back that I got an oil change
that came up, that I had an air conditioning leak.
So I took it back to Firestone, like, hey, you
guys are the only ones that touched the air conditioning.
They're like, oh, it wasn't us. These things just happened.
I took it to them again, like, look, it was

(01:37:12):
working just fine before I brought it to you guys.
Oh it was just a still.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
How long how long after how long after the service
did the ac leak show up?

Speaker 15 (01:37:25):
I would say about a month after. I have multiple sclerosis,
so I don't drive very often. But that being said,
I do have a medical condition that I have heat
in tolerance. I get busy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
No, I understand that for sure. Yeah, Lauren, where did
you take it for service?

Speaker 15 (01:37:40):
Firestone?

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Just a normal Firestone one particular one.

Speaker 15 (01:37:46):
Uh, it's a Firestone on eightis. And Wadsworth, a friend
of mine, helped me with the alternator because I'm on
disability as a fixed in its like well, yeah, like
I've done business with Firestone. Take it there and so
I didn't know and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
They did the alternator. Everything else went well. Right, they
got the alternator and all of that, right.

Speaker 15 (01:38:06):
I mean, that's questionable because I was even telling my
Grappa when I start the car, my car has driven
really bad ever since they worked on it. I was
telling my grandpa, like, I recorded a noise it was
making after I started, and he's like, that's a bad alternator.
So I just took it back yesterday, like, oh, we
think the alternator's sad. They kept it all night and
today they were like, oh, we didn't find anything wrong

(01:38:27):
with the alternator, but the sound is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
And when when did they When did they do that alternator?
Originally that was in June? And was that for Is
that for a new alternator or just did they fix
it or what a new alternator? Okay, now right now
where we sit, what's the problem right now?

Speaker 15 (01:38:51):
The air conditioning because my air conditioning doesn't work. And
then I took it back to them like hey, it
has a leak and you guys touched it, and so
they drained all the free on like, oh, you can't
use your air conditioning until you get a six and
they quoted me like eighteen dollars, but they said.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
It's not but they said it's not their fault.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:39:11):
Yeah, They're like, well, we had to take it out
in order to get to the alternators, but we didn't
cause the leak.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
They had to take what but what they had to
take hold on? What did they have to take out?
That's the part I'm confused about.

Speaker 15 (01:39:24):
They had to take the whole air conditioning unit out
to get to the alternator career.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
That doesn't sound That doesn't sound correct to me. Something
is missing. I want to get Kevin Colkin on one
of my auto.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Experts and Okay, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
An expression, and I want you to take this the
right way, Lauren. There's an expression in the car in
the car business, it is once you touch the car,
you own it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Now, what they mean by that is when someone.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Works on a car and they're blamed for everything that
goes wrong with it afterwards. Now I'm not saying they
shouldn't be blamed. I'm just saying it's common and I
just want we have to make a connection here. Now,
how many miles on this car?

Speaker 15 (01:40:12):
About one hundred and twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Okay, here's something else I need to tell you. And
the reason I'm telling you all of this is is
kind of a dose of reality.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
So we don't go nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Let's say, for argument's sake, they broke the AC.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
Now, one can make the argument.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
The AC was fourteen years old, and it was. It
has one hundred and twenty five thousand miles on it,
so the AC may not have been one hundred percent
perfect to begin with.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
I'm just gonna I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
Just an old car.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
No, no, no, no, I'm gonna brace you for this.
Let's say they're one hundred percent responsible and they broke it.
They still may not be responsible to pay one hundred
percent of the repair. Now, I'm not saying they shouldn't help.
If they caused it, they should pay for whatever damages

(01:41:16):
they caused. So let's say, on a twenty ten with
one hundred and twenty five thousand miles, they ruined your AC.
They certainly don't have to make that AC like new.
They have to make it like it was, and that's
impossible to do. So if you this is crazy and
people hate hearing it, But if you had that rebuilt

(01:41:40):
or replaced with a new one, you may have to
chip in for that along with them, if they were
one hundred percent at fault.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 15 (01:41:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Yeah, okay, it's it's It's the same way as if
you were in an accident in that car and somebody
destroyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
They wouldn't have to buy you a new car.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
They only have to get you a car comparable to
the one that was destroyed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
I'm I'm not even sure they broke it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
They may have. I'm gonna ask Kevin about that. Right
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(01:42:52):
Hi Tom Martino here three O three seven one three
talk seven one three eight two five five. So, Kevin Calkin,
she has a twenty ten Nissan Morano. She had her
alternator replaced and her air conditioning's not working. What would
they have to screw with on that air conditioner to get.

Speaker 11 (01:43:12):
To that, possibly broke the plug off, you know, for
the electric clutch something like that. That's purely easy. They're
pretty lightweight plugs. Just not paying attention and just bump
it and crack it. I mean, if it's still got
a charge on it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Yeah, well they're saying there's no there. They took it
all out. They said it's going to cause eighteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Bucks to fix.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Would you be able to look at it and see
if it was broken because of them doing the alternator
or if it was just wear and tear or whatever
in a coincidence, because remember the expression, you touch it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
You own it.

Speaker 11 (01:43:48):
Yeah, you own the whole car, absolutely, but you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
But you can kind of discern that, can't you?

Speaker 5 (01:43:54):
Typically yes, yes, all right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Would you do?

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Can you do us the honors?

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Where are you located?

Speaker 9 (01:44:00):
Lauren serve at it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Oh cool, he's on Collfax west of Wadsworth, Kachina.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Give him the information so she can check it out.

Speaker 11 (01:44:12):
Yeah, we'll be happy to check it for Kevin.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
I also want to ask you another question after the
break on the normal life of ACS. Well, maybe you
tell me what's the normal life it's it's fourteen years old.

Speaker 11 (01:44:24):
Yeah, that's getting close to the end of it. But
you know they they go fifty fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
But a good thank you. We got more coming up.
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Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
Yeah, ripped up.

Speaker 18 (01:45:10):
News.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
So you don't have.

Speaker 7 (01:45:16):
Come.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Run in just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna
help come man. This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino, Hi,
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three
seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.
Solving problems, answering questions, taking complaints, making your life a

(01:45:39):
little easier if we can a number of topics we've
been covering will recap when we have a chance. I
want to talk to uh, let's see Dave a question
on car insurance.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Welcome to the only show that it's kind of anywhere, Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
How do we help you? Sir?

Speaker 14 (01:46:00):
It's Martino. Hey, I called you yesterday and you answered
my question insurance. That's what I want to do. I
want to gift my car to my mother. She doesn't
live in Danversits and Clublow. So I called my insurance
company see if I could add her on my pology
and they said no, if she is there different she
don't live up my address. That's all right, I'm fine,
Jack are getting non owners that's only liability. They won't

(01:46:20):
cover my damage on my car.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Or wait now, wait a minute, wait a minute, what
are you trying to accomplish? I got to get to
that first. What are you trying to accomplish, Dave?

Speaker 14 (01:46:30):
Well, like I said, I'm gonna give her the gift
for the car in place for her. I have so
many cars.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Right when you gift her this car, why can't she
just buy her own insurance?

Speaker 14 (01:46:43):
Okay, that's the question. She's going to check into that.
But I owe money to a bank still on the car,
I got food coverage on it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Oh yeah, you're gonna you're you're required. You're required to
have collision coverage and you can't gift the car. If
you do, they can call the note do off. So
what here's what you do? If you can add her
to your policy, she doesn't have to live with you

(01:47:11):
if it's her car, not her car like you can.
You can switch the title of the car, but you're
still responsible for the loan. Let me get compass insurance
on Okay, you know what, why don't you hold on?
Let's get Compass insurance on the line, Kachina Compass insurance?

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Thank you? Uh Savannah has a question.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
We get quite a bit now with the new mailers
going out from Excel Energy and uh Savannah, welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
What do you need to know about?

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Hi?

Speaker 20 (01:47:43):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 9 (01:47:44):
Got one of those mailers that you've been talking about
for ten percent off your electricity if you sign up
for the solar farm thing.

Speaker 15 (01:47:51):
Right, But Excel does not.

Speaker 9 (01:47:52):
I don't pay Excel for my electricity bill, so I just.

Speaker 7 (01:47:55):
Don't know how.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Oh wait, who do you want that benefitness? Who do
you fort Collins? Well then it won't benefit you. I
don't see how it can. What do you mean the
city of Fort Collins. I didn't know that. What what
are the people in Fort Collins? They pay the city?

Speaker 9 (01:48:11):
Yeah, we pay the city for electricity and water. We
only pay Excel for our gap.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Oh yeah, it wouldn't work. You just got that in error.
But the electricity, how do they parse that out? And
for Fort Collins? Are they reselling? What are they doing?
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
I just get a bill from the city for water
and electric I'm not sure how they We have a.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Meter and the city reads your meter. Yes, yes, I
must be. It must be some kind of a co op.
I've never heard of that. I mean, I didn't know that.
By the way, it hasn't been going on a long time.
I've been in Colorado nearly fifty years. I mean, has
it been going on along ever since?

Speaker 9 (01:48:51):
I've ever since I've been on my own in the
city of Fort Collins. We've always paid the City of
Fort Collins for our electric and water.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Interesting, it's interesting. Okay, well, no you can't. Obviously, it
has to be someone who gets electricity from Excel and
then you sign onto this co op and then you
get the bill a bill from the co op, and
then you get a lower bill from Excel, and supposedly
the two added together give you at least ten percent reduction,

(01:49:21):
sometimes more so because you're taking part.

Speaker 9 (01:49:24):
I thought it was weird. I even got the letter,
so do I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
But you know why, because you are a customer. You're
just a gas customer. But I just think there's probably
no way for them to know, or they they just
sent it out to all of their customers.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Savannah, that's interesting. So anyone else.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
If you got that and you only get gased from Excel,
obviously you're not going to get a rebate on your
UH on.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Your electric all right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
So do how how is getting thank you? How is
getting compassed? Did we get Compass on or not? Thank you?
Thank you?

Speaker 17 (01:50:01):
Kachina, Hey, Tom, I did that with my son. I
just listened to him as a driver, and I kept
it with the car in my name and.

Speaker 16 (01:50:09):
He has it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Okay. I mean when you you ensure it in everything, right.

Speaker 17 (01:50:15):
I just kept it in my name, put him as
a driver, and nothing changed.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Okay, Well let's figure that out. I'm going to ask
Compass to be sure. But I believe you.

Speaker 16 (01:50:27):
I did the Compass because then I you know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
I get well, you know what then, Dave, have you
thought about that? Dave, let's bring him back. According to
deputy Doc who checked with Compass already, he just named
him as a driver on the policy. Why wouldn't they
let you do that?

Speaker 14 (01:50:49):
Because I tried to be mister a good guy and
I called him first and see it, and they had
me on recorded line. They said, no, no, the car
has to be in Denver, in your garage, in.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Your possession, not in Pleblo.

Speaker 14 (01:51:00):
She's used it over there and gets an accident, we
will not cover that car.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Now, wait a minute, I don't know if you added
her as a driver. They said they won't cover it
if she lives in another household. Right right, all right,
Brian Burns Compass Insurance, let's bring him up. Brian, you there, Brian,

(01:51:23):
I'm here here, all right. So Dave has a car
that's financed, so obviously it's financed. He must carry collision
and he wants to give the car to his mother
if he can, or at least accomplish it so she
can drive it all the time and be on the insurance. Now,

(01:51:47):
his insurance company told him he can't do that if
she lives in another household.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
That's not true.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
Is it so?

Speaker 21 (01:51:56):
Because he tried to list her as an as a
operator on the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Pall that yes, exactly exactly.

Speaker 21 (01:52:03):
It's surprising me they even asked the question, because if
if you were to call me and to say I
need to add an operator on the policy, I would
just I would add the operator period. Uh So I
wouldn't really have to get into the detail about address.
I assume she's in the same Saint.

Speaker 15 (01:52:18):
Though she.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Yeah, that's did you say, no, she's in She's in Pueblo, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
He's in Denver area. I think.

Speaker 21 (01:52:29):
Okay, yeah, so you're still still in Colorado. So that's
that's the more important part to me.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Who's your car? Who's your carrier?

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
Dave safe.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Brian Okay, why would safe code not let him put
his mother on that car?

Speaker 19 (01:52:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
They said you have to have the car at your house, right, Dave?

Speaker 20 (01:52:52):
Right, what you can on policy?

Speaker 21 (01:52:56):
You can change the garaging zip code to wherever it
truly is, So that would be another option.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
Now, why why do they care about the garage? Why
do they care about the garaging zip code?

Speaker 21 (01:53:07):
As you Well, for a factor of reasons. Let's just
talk about the physical damage portion, like let's say comprehensive
if you're in an area that's more prone to hall.
The rating factors are different in one place over another,
if there's a higher proportion of accidents in a certain area,
or theft rate if you're in one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Okay, so he ought to have it better. He ought
to have it better in Pueblo.

Speaker 21 (01:53:30):
I would sure think so. I think Pueblo would be
a lesser rate.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
So, Dave, you so, what do you actually say to SAFECode?
Who is your agent? Dave?

Speaker 11 (01:53:40):
You're not talk to Jasker?

Speaker 14 (01:53:43):
And they told me you can't do it and make.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
It Dave, Dave, you don't, Dave, who do you go? Dave?
Who do you go to? The buy insurance?

Speaker 14 (01:53:51):
I'm a guy that sold it for me to dam
wrote it up and I took them and I paid
every month on a credit card.

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
I That's all I do.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
But who is Okay, yeah, co is my insurance? I
understand that. But you have an agent?

Speaker 14 (01:54:07):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
Not me?

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
I just call and connected Brian, Let me, Brian, let
me ask you. Just just hold on, Dave. I'm going
to help you out here. How do you become his
agent of record?

Speaker 21 (01:54:18):
He had to sign a broker of record, but it
wouldn't take place until renewals, so it really wouldn't help
him in the immediate you know, because they really don't
change that over until renewal. But he, I mean, he
should have someone. I wouldn't talk to an adjuster. I
would know Paul whoever he usually calls. He says, I
need to add an operator on my policy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Like like, like, who do you call to change things
on your policy? Who do you call? Do you have
an agent?

Speaker 14 (01:54:47):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:54:47):
Now trying?

Speaker 14 (01:54:47):
I call Safe and it connected me to the same
lady that she I guess she's the only one that
works here. She goes, I talked to you earlier, sir,
and you want to record a line I answer your
question before.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
This is so ridiculous.

Speaker 21 (01:55:00):
Come on, Brian, he's to change insurance, give me a call.
Let's just get you somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Yeah, I mean, do you realize it doesn't cost you
anything to change insurance, Dave, you might be able to
get a better rate.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Now you did add that one. Not at fault accident, right?

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:55:16):
I call Progressive and they changed it. You sent me
a letter and it said the end of the stake cold,
you're not at fault.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Wait a minute, who are you insured by safe COO
or Progressive?

Speaker 14 (01:55:28):
I was Progressive and I got in an accident in
October at twenty two, but.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
It was a not at fault accident, right.

Speaker 21 (01:55:35):
Yes, rights, it provided a letter that said it was
not at fault.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
That's common. And then you switched. You switched to safe
Coe is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:55:46):
Reading I did that because Progressive that lady only had
twenty five grand. I went after my insurance, com Me Propresso,
and they paid out like one hundred grand. I didn't
think they're too happy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Hey, if you use Brian, if you use your under
insured motorist coverage, are you dinged for that?

Speaker 21 (01:56:04):
It's a not at fault just like he said, it's
a not at fault act and you're still looked at.
They still see it, but it's it's not a chargeable.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
So, Dave, so you're right now with Safeco you ought
to switch. Let Brian find you a carrier. I'll bet
you you'll save money and you'll get this taken care
of with your mom.

Speaker 14 (01:56:24):
Okay, okay, I'm driving right now a company truck. Can
I just give him my number? Or off the air?

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Yeah, off the air, you can off the air and
they'll call you. But it's going to be easy for
you to remember too. It's three oh three nine nine
six nine thousand. But hold on, Kitchina, get Dave's number
and give it to Brian. Brian, really, I think you
ought to take care of me's being jerked around. I
just can't see that, all right, Thank you, thank you.
That's Brian Burns's Compass Insurance Group. We love those guys

(01:56:51):
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(01:57:23):
thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't
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now three oh three seven to seven to one. Help.
You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

(01:57:45):
durand the real estate man dot com to list your
home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine to zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three oh three
seven one three talk three or three seven one three
eight two five five, Carol, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
You you've been working with Deputy Bo?

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Carol.

Speaker 10 (01:58:13):
Yes, Bo told me to call back because he found
out some information.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Now, which one was this? What when did you call? Boka?

Speaker 22 (01:58:23):
He called in Monday, September twenty third, I believe, and
it was regarding she purchased a wooden structure cabin and
she contracted.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Oh my goodness, that was crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:58:37):
And she paid quite a bit of money up front.

Speaker 22 (01:58:39):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
It was to be custom built on your lot with
Patriot Building justin Garcia. He paid him sixty two grand
to build, right, didn't you already pay him?

Speaker 20 (01:58:52):
She already?

Speaker 9 (01:58:53):
It was a down tam and he promised me to
have it up in three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Okay, and what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Did you get a hold?

Speaker 22 (01:59:04):
Yes? I called him four times this guy is a
total scumbag.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
I am beyond what's he Well, let's get him arrested.

Speaker 22 (01:59:13):
If he took sixty two, I mean, this isn't like
three thousand or eight thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
This is a violation too. What did he say? Did
he say he is going to keep the money?

Speaker 22 (01:59:21):
When I was doing that thing the other day, he's
I told him, you're in violation of the Contractor Trust
Act And he says, well, yes, I know the regulation.
I have materials And I said, how could you have
material costs?

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
Pay?

Speaker 22 (01:59:35):
You bought the cab, the lady bought the cabin. And
he says, well, if you keep talking like this or
bring me up on the air, I'm going I'm going
to have my lawyer soon. When I said we want,
I said, I want to talk to your lawyer. I said,
you need to give this lady her sixty two thousand
dollars back. And then I asked, do you actually have
a brick and mortar store brick and mortar or are

(01:59:57):
you working out of your house?

Speaker 16 (01:59:58):
Then he hung up on me.

Speaker 22 (02:00:00):
Then I called back, left a couple of messages. So Carol,
I wanted to tell you this. You don't want this
guy doing your job, and he's using an excuse why
he won't do your job because you don't have their
proper drawings or whatever. But I called this city of
El Paso County. This justin Garcia doesn't even have a

(02:00:22):
license to do any.

Speaker 16 (02:00:24):
Construction work at all.

Speaker 22 (02:00:25):
He doesn't have a license a building or a contractor's license.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
And where did you where did you check? What?

Speaker 22 (02:00:31):
Municipality El Paso County, Carora Springs Building Department.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Okay?

Speaker 22 (02:00:37):
And then on the contract he has a license number
on the I haven't been able to read the contract.
Carrol's going snailing mailing it to me, but the license
number on the contract is bogus. Oh, I mean, this
is sixty two thousand dollars. I think we need to
get the callers to call his number, even to protest.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
What's his h what's his number?

Speaker 22 (02:01:00):
His phone number is seven one nine five seven one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:06):
Hold on seven nine.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
I had about this five seven to one oh four
three seven.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
No, we should definitely call him, so I asked.

Speaker 22 (02:01:16):
I left him my message because he kept threatening a lawyer.
I mean, I said, just bring your lawyer. Have your
lawyer call the radio show so we can get your
side of this. Story and he said he's way too
busy to talk to me.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Okayes Bs, this is a scumbag, justin Garcia, Patriot Builders
a scum bag, just a mofo scumbag?

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
Can I say that?

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Yeah? Both?

Speaker 22 (02:01:40):
Did he say that he bought the materials? He says
he had material costs into the job. And he says,
if I would read the contract, you could clearly see
if you would, if I could read that he's entitled
to keep the money because she didn't start the job
in a certain amount of time. Well, that's the biggest
ustion to be as I ever heard. He's sixty two

(02:02:01):
thousand dollars of this lady's money for months and she's
living with us.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
No, no, we can't let this happen. We need to
call BO. Would you call the district attorney in al
Paso County and school them on the Contractor's Trust Act
and tell them we have a victim here and this
guy did not put the money in trust as required
and has violated everything and doesn't even have a license.
Please do that follow up? Okay, I am, I'm going
to give the actual district attorney. We got to call

(02:02:29):
them in El Paso County.

Speaker 22 (02:02:30):
It's the fourth judicial district. I've already left a message
for them Tom, and I'm going to get Carroll to
call them too.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
Thank you, Carol. We got to get this guy arrested.
Justin Garcia. Scumbag extraordinary, a piece of garbage. People do
not let this go. Seven nine five seven one zero
four three seven. He takes sixty two thousand dollars, He's

(02:02:57):
not licensed, and he will do nothing. Seven one nine
five seven one zero four three seven. That's seven one
nine five seven one zero four three seven. Patriot Building

(02:03:17):
justin Garcia, justin scumbag waste of skin, Garcia, Patriot Building.
Seven one nine five seven one zero four three seven.
For forty five years, I've been calling fire down on
these scumbag pieces of garbage, and it's about time we
stop this crap. You think what makes this man think

(02:03:40):
he can rob this woman of sixty two thousand dollars
and get away with it.

Speaker 22 (02:03:45):
And I want to get his address who we can
go protest or go to his hut.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
He sucks this man and he says his attorney's gonna
call you have your attorney call me, because I would
love to talk to any attorney that would represent you
probably get another scumbag, snake skinned piece of garbage give
me and I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Mean to insult snakes by the way.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Okay, that's justin Garcia, Patriot Building. Call me back or
text me. Let me know what he says. Does he
answer his phone? Seven to one nine five seven one
zero four three seven? Be nice, but let him know
that you know he's a crook. You know he's a criminal.
What go ahead?

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
What did you want to say?

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
And that's all my opinion based on everything we're hearing.
And Bo even called the guy so bo.

Speaker 22 (02:04:36):
Does he answer the phone after the second call? He
blocked me when I pay.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
Well, I'm not talking about you, but how about other people?
He can't block everyone?

Speaker 22 (02:04:44):
He will, he will answer the phone. He's very nice.
High I'm I'm just in the contractor. Can I come
rip you off for twenty thirty grand? It just pisses
me off. Oh my god, I'm gonna go down there
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
Yeah, but be careful. He might be dangerous. I want
him to call in and tell me where he lives.
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Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Help.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank
durand the real estate man dot com to list your
home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter, Maya. I
know I'm not going to start this now.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
I was just gonna start some crap. Just let me
go on to these man.

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
I am so sick and tired of lying, cheating, scumbag ripoffs.
Justin Garcia people call him, let me know if you did. Okay,
Justin's voicemail uses a different name. What does that mean?

Speaker 11 (02:06:04):
Dollar?

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
What does that mean? What does that mean to his
voicemail uses a different name.

Speaker 10 (02:06:09):
We actually had a couple of callers that called in
that left him messages because it's going straight to voicemail.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
Okay, but his dollar? What does dollar mean that his
voicemail uses a different name.

Speaker 10 (02:06:23):
I have no idea. Maybe he's missed dialing because the
people that I've spoken with have basically said that he
has a voicemail that indicates his name.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
Can okay, hold on, I don't understand this at all.
I'm going to do the phone call right now and
it don't worry. I'm not putting it on. I'm just
going to listen. I want to listen to what name
he says?

Speaker 16 (02:06:47):
FI zero four tell him while you're doing that.

Speaker 17 (02:06:50):
I just check the Secretary of State and he does
have a business address and a personal address.

Speaker 16 (02:06:58):
So well, I gave that the boat.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
I want to give that out on the air.

Speaker 16 (02:07:02):
No, no, no, no, but I'm saying I gave it to
bad I'm calling.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
Right now, hold on one to say I want to
hear what he says. I want to hear what he says.
Come on, man answered, How long does it take to answer? Oh,
Innate Architecture or something or other. It is justin Garcia,

(02:07:27):
but he has another company. It's called Innate Innate Architecture
or something. But he changes he changes his name. He
changes his name like like socks unless your deputy doc
and and yeah he changes them quite often. Uh so

(02:07:48):
what can you call that number? Dimitrian write it down
that what that new name is. Uh, he's going by Innate.
Did you hear that, Beau when you call? Or is
it you don't even give it?

Speaker 22 (02:08:01):
But the paperwork's under Patriot Building LLC. And that's what
Doc found on the Secretary of State with his actual
building or home address.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Well, trust me, Patriot Remodeling Services LLC is one of them.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
I mean he's got a number of them. He's got
pay his businesses. So right now I'm making a list
of his businesses, and what I have is Patriot Remodeling Services, LLC.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
And then we have you have the what's the other one?

Speaker 16 (02:08:36):
Did you say innate?

Speaker 18 (02:08:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
No, what did you have?

Speaker 22 (02:08:39):
You said, I had Patriot Patriot Remodeling LLC.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
Yeah, And now you said another one. You said the
business is under something else. You just said it, you
said Patriots something.

Speaker 16 (02:08:52):
Building under Secretary of State.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
What is it called Patriot Building? I don't know. They
just said it five seconds ago, and they can't tell me.
What is he saying on his voicemail something else? Innate, Innate,
architecture engineering.

Speaker 22 (02:09:12):
Innate, Innate, Innate, that was on the phone, but on
the Secretary of State it's Patriot Remodeling LLC.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
Patriot Remodeling LLC. Okay, and that's what he.

Speaker 22 (02:09:26):
That contract to use with Carol. They extract a sixty
two thousand dollars and he's not doing a damn thing.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
And then the other one is Innate whatever that you
know what?

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
I don't know what that is, Tom Innate, but.

Speaker 22 (02:09:40):
This is definitely his number, because I've talked to him.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
Yeah, an Innate obviously is he probably changed his name
every time he gets sued and gets a judgment, so
he has to read. We'll get that other name. Let
me go to the phones, though, Jessica, what's going on?
Jessica left? Okay, Well, what did you find on that?

Speaker 3 (02:10:03):
You catch the name?

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
Yes, the Innate.

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
It's called so it's identified as Innate Architecture, engineering architecture
or architectural architecture okay.

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
And what else.

Speaker 4 (02:10:15):
Engineering and construction and construction.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
Yet another name, folks. And that's what Dollar meant when
he said a different name. This guy is bad, newspeople.
Just fill it up. And now his email we have
for you to send emails to him. It is Patriot
Remodeling Services LC at gmail dot com. Tell them what

(02:10:47):
you think if I'm taking sixty two thousand dollars from
a woman and doing no work. Patriot Remodeling Services LLC
at gmail dot com. Now, let me explain something to
his attorney, who will no doubt be reviewing this. If
he can scrape together the money, well, he has sixty
grand her money. So here's what I'm going to say
to mister attorney. I know, I know, I know you're

(02:11:09):
going to try to come after me and and blah
blah blah blah blah. I've eaten you up and spit
you out several times before. Now here's why I don't lie.
We take in information, We call people to allow them
to come on the air.

Speaker 3 (02:11:25):
We give our opinions. Here's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
If you take sixty two grand up front and do
no work, you're a crook my opinion. According to the
Contractors Trust Act, that money's supposed to be put in
trust for that job.

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
Did he do that? Doubt it?

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
And also she bought the materials herself, and he claimed
to have materials.

Speaker 3 (02:11:56):
Expense.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
But here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
I doubt he's followed.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
The Contractor's Trust Act. In fact, we can't find much
licensing on him. And we found a number of different
business names. So if you want to represent him, that's fine, okay,
because I would love to go into the discovery and
get into his bank accounts and how many times he's
taken money down, and how many times he's opened up
trust accounts, and how many times this has happened.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
So, mister attorney, bring.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
It three oho three, seven to one three talks seven
one three eight two five five. It's interesting to note
I have never once lost a case, not once. We
fight for you people, because people like this should not

(02:12:51):
be allowed to exist.

Speaker 3 (02:12:54):
I've been yelling that song for more than forty five years.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
I say forty five years. That's Denver. I was in
business for about five or six years before Denver, rapidly
moving until I ended up here and then I didn't
move anymore. If you want to know my life story,
it is coming to a theater near you, probably on
Netflix as well.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
I'm just kidding a.

Speaker 16 (02:13:19):
Lot of people don't like horror movies.

Speaker 5 (02:13:21):
Tom.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
Oh Man anyway, So anyway, here's the deal. If you
have a problem, question or complain, give us a call
and we'll go after them. Okay, we got more coming
up on the Troubleshooter show, and I like to say this.
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his website. Deputy d also got a lot of information

(02:14:21):
for Bo. We're gonna like kick some ass here. God,
I'm so happy when we all get together and.

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
Go after bad guys.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
It's really rewarding. So Bo, we're gonna consolidate everything. I'm
gonna get them up on the sleeze brigade for sure.
But man, what a day, What a day. I want
to remind people also that we've had a number of
different sleeze buckets that we talked to today, that other

(02:14:53):
one who sold the boat to that guy mcintree.

Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
Is it from what are the.

Speaker 10 (02:15:00):
And yes, Adam, yes, Adam.

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
So mckintree sells a boat and then says, you know,
when we got him on the air, Oh yeah, we're
gonna we're gonna just call it good. Or the wife said,
we're going to call it good and we're going to
let him have the title and he doesn't have to
pay the balance too, because the boat was not as
represented according to the buyer. Unfortunately, he did buy it
as is. They did promise to just walk away from it,

(02:15:25):
but now they say, no, we're going to see how
this goes in small claims court. They're just being jerks.
They're just being jerks, and so you know, here's the deal.
He actually even threw his wife under the bus and
she didn't have all theorization. So we have so many
cases that we handle on the on the air, and

(02:15:45):
don't forget like just just some of these the things
we find out, like the Ticketmaster thing, we talked about
this breach five million accounts or how many accounts, it's
like five million accounts were breached and people are transferring
tickets out of your name into someone else's name. If

(02:16:06):
you got a good concert, you got to watch out
for that. I would suggest you change your account right now,
your password and all of that. So thanks for being here.
As always, don't forget. You can call three oh three
Martino twenty four to seven and we help you. Three
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