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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Ted, we'll switch gears and check in with
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Kevin Sir. Really, Kevin is the host of the Hello
Future podcast on iHeartRadio. Be enjoying our conversations the last
couple of Fridays. Kevin is a futurist and if you
had time this weekend, I would encourage you to listen
to that podcast, Hello Future, Kevin, Good morning. A couple
of topics this morning. You know, we talk about AI
a lot on the show because there's something new almost
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daily on this But you've got some thoughts on quantum,
like quantum processing. Is, what is quantum computing and why
does it matter?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, quantum computing is going to make AI look like,
you know, doing math on a calculator back in the
nineteen sixties. Quantum computing, for those who don't know, is
it can solve complex problems in a blink of an
eye that would take current computers thousands of years to compute.
So why should you care about that? Well, when it
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comes to finding chores for diseases, or even stimulating how
the Earth would created or the galaxy was created, or
even you know, I don't know, protecting ourselves from a
nuclear weapon, it will really revolutionize and advance this. You're
not necessarily going to have a quantum computer sitting on
your desk in the next fifty years. But governments, corporations,
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higher education, universities, they're all in our lifetime going to
be building and they already have started quantum computers to
help revolutionize the systems in which we all operate on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So we're not going to have a Texas Instrument's quantum
computer in our backpacks going to school in a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Not necessarily. But what is more likely is that when
you go to the hospital or you go to do research,
if you're a student, that you'll be harnessing the power
of quantum computers in your systems. But why this really
matters is because everything that we operate on runs on
computing systems. I don't really want to get too much
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into the you know, quantum physics of it, all of
zeros and ones and bits and whatnot, thank you, But
but what I will say is quantum has the ability
to break encryption. So if you're you know, everything, all
of our Wall Street banking, obviously, cryptocurrency, even our nuclear codes,
they're all encrypted data and information. So if quantum can
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break through that that's the problem. Now, the good news
is that America has the lead on quantum innovation against everyone,
including China, and that they have already started to think through.
They hired all the nerves to come up with ways
to make sure that everything we have is quantum resistant.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Interesting speaking with Kevin Surerrillly, hosts of the Hello Future podcast,
and it's interesting because it kind of dovetails into the
next topic, and that is, you know, powering. So I mean,
Illinois broke ground on a thirty acre quantum facility, and
you've got to be able to you got to be
able to power these operations. I mean all of these
data centers. We have a number of them in central Ohio,
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and there's issues. I mean there's one in a suburb
of Columbus, Kevin cut it's Hilliard. They want to do
there's an Amazon data center. They want to put in
their own two hundred natural gas powered fuel cells. Obviously,
neighbors and residents are not happy there. They just straight
up canceled the data center project in West Jefferson, Ohio.
This was a sentinel project because the power companies said,
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we just don't have the capacity in the grid to
power these data centers. What's the problem here.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, that's that's precisely the problem is that here we
are in the start of the Second Industrial Revolution, and
we don't are our energy infrastructure to power the data centers.
Is is severely, severely limited. The way, the comparison that
I make of this is when cars were first invented
and they were starting to replace horses and the nineteen hundreds,
people were protesting against, you know, having more cars on
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the road. There were a lot of concerns, et cetera,
et cetera. But think of what that unleashed the automobile industry,
for one, but it also unleashed a new infrastructure for
the United States. Our highways are paved roads. Think of
all of the infrastruct sure that we created. We need
that same infrastructure digitally to modernize and harness our innovation power. So,
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on the one hand, there are very real concerns about
keeping electric costs low for Americans, but I would argue
that AI and harnessing the power of America's artificial intelligence
innovation will unlock the ability to keep our energy prices
down and low. So it's it's a damned if you do,
damned if you don't kind of situation. But for me,
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I would not want to live in a part of
the country that gets left behind in the digital infrastructure revolution.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So we've done any research into the what they're called.
They're called SMRs Small modular reactors. They're like these many
portable nuclear reactors that some of these operations are Actually
they're just putting on or they have the ability to
put them on the sites of their data centers and
just being sort of off the grade and independent. What's
the story on the SMRs.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, the SMRs essentially is like a mini ability, like
you just set a mini power up. Think of it
almost you know, the gross over simplification analogy that I
will use is a generator for lack of a better word.
You know that you can generate power in the event
of losing power. But the question becomes even with SMRs,
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it's to build these and the demands you can imagine,
it's skyrocketing. So everyone from Rolls Royce is in on
this to other companies to develop and harness this technology.
But it gets down to your to a point that
I think you're raising, which I totally think is a
valid one, which is we need to demand new ideas, right,
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whether it's SMRs or building data center on the moon,
or even exploring other potential ways that we can build
these data centers so that no one gets left behind
in terms of this AI power, because the end of
the day, if we don't do it, you can you know,
darn well debt. That's the Communist Party of China is
you know, working to build these data centers in order
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to try to eclipse us or surpass us in artificial intelligence.
And that's the world that I just don't want to
even think about.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I'm with him. That is that is that's something well,
something from the future. And he is the host of
Hello Future podcast Kevin surreally about a minute and a
half left or so. Final topic, espionage is sort of
being redefined by what else AI? How are how are
spies using AI in the names of you know, kind
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of privacy and deep fakes and and power and espionage
and AI go I guess hand in hand now, So.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I've interviewed this expert on this topic, doctor Anthony Vinci.
He's got a new book out. He was the first
chief technology officer in the National Geospacial Agency. It's called
the Fourth Intelligence Revolution. Highly recommend it, And what he
told me essentially is that our AI systems are going
to be spying on other AI systems. So I think
that's what's I mean, it's crazy. If there's a new
movie out on Netflix called a House of Dynamite, which
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I highly recommend, that goes into all of this, and
so the human is going to be gathering the human
intelligence in terms of the interpersonal relationship, but there's going
to be hot conflict with drones and systems that you know,
humans don't even necessarily know about. So it's it's a
brave new world, my friend,