November 18, 2025 • 8 mins
ABC's Mike Dobuski discusses the new gaming battle and the new Smart glasses are like and how long it takes to learn how to use them
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I spend a couple of minutes on the
(00:01):
Legacy Retirement Group dot Com phone line with ABC News
Technology reporter. It's Mike Debuski and Tech Tuesday. And I'm
of the generation Mike. I grew up playing Atari and
in television. I'm not the biggest gamer anymore, but for
and I've never really thought about this. The big three
in gaming the gaming world right now has been PlayStation, Xbox,
(00:24):
and Nintendo. But there's a new company trying to disrupt
that operation.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What's going on, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They're called Valve, and for people who are gamers, they
might recognize that name. They're the operator of the Steam
Online Store. This is a place where you can go
on your computer to download a game for a couple bucks.
It's proved pretty popular, and now the company is trying
to get into the hardware space, so they have a
new device out called the Steam Machine. And the idea
(00:50):
here is pretty interesting. They're trying to bridge the two
major worlds of gaming. The world of PC gaming, which
is really expansive and you can play really power powerful games,
but it's pretty complicated, and the world of console gaming,
this is where you find things like the PS five,
the Xbox. They're very popular and they're very easy to
plug into a TV and just start playing, but you're
(01:13):
limited in certain ways in terms of, you know, you're
computing power. There's limitations also limitations on the types of
games that you can play. For example, the Grand Tismo
series is exclusive to PlayStation. So Valve's latest device, again
called the Steam Machine, plugs into your TV. It's designed
to just be easy to turn on and start playing.
(01:33):
You don't have to sort through GPUs or weird sort
of coding menus or anything like that. Is you know,
designed to kind of function like a console in that way,
but it's actually a PC. It's actually a gaming computer.
It runs Linux, it runs the Steam operating system, and
they say it's really powerful. It's about six times as
powerful as valves handheld gaming device, which has proven pretty
(01:55):
popular over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's called the Steam Deck.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
If they are able to all of this off, bringing
the wide variety of the PC world of gaming to
the convenience of the console world of gaming, this has
the potential to really shake things up in this segment.
And you talk to analysts, they say that the gaming
space is ripe for disruption. Xbox sales have been on
(02:19):
the decline over the last few years as the price
of that console has been going up amid fears of
tariffs and other economic uncertainties. The story's a little bit
better in PlayStation land. Their sales are a little bit
up over last year, but even still the prices have
been rising. You can now spend up to seven hundred
and fifty bucks on a new PlayStation. So if Valve
(02:40):
comes in here at an attractive price, this could really
mean some disruption in the console gaming space.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So does Valve have their own games?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Then? Do they have proprietary games that you would play
versus or do they are they able to use games
like you said, that are inherent to PlayStation or Xbox.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, so this is kind of the joy of PC
gaming and kind of one of the draws of a
device like this. You're kind of able to play whatever
you want. Now, it's not every game that's ever been made, certainly,
but it's a lot more than what you would get
on just a singular console, and that is attractive. However,
this has gone wrong in the past. It's really difficult
(03:23):
to make all the variety of different gaming studios and
different independent games that are developed play nicely on a
singular operating system. Valve actually tried to make some hardware
about ten years ago in twenty fifteen, also called the
Steam Machine, and it largely flopped. It's kind of thought
to be one of the biggest failures in the tech
space of the twenty tens, in large part because things
(03:44):
were buggy, It got complicated, it got expensive, it was
late to market, all because of just how varied and
different the world of developing video games was and continues
to be now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Valve says that they are.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Not asking developers to like develop for their system, so
you're not going to have necessarily exclusive Steam Machine games.
They are doing some work on their end to adapt
existing games to their system, So they're taking Windows devices
and making Windows games, i should say, and making sure
that they play nicely on their operating system. So we'll
(04:19):
have to see if it works out for them. As
we've said, it kind of went awry for them in
the past. But if it does work, this could impact
quite a lot of people. According to Pew research, they
found that ninety seven percent of teenage boys play video games,
seventy three percent of teenage girls. As for men, between
eighteen and twenty four, which is kind of the prime
demographic here. The amount of time they dedicate to gaming
(04:41):
has doubled in the last decade. According to the Federal
Government's American Time Use Survey, now more than ten hours
a week dedicated to video gaming.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So do PlayStation and we'll move on after this real quick.
Do PlayStation and Xbox have any say here? If they've
got developers creating games for them, Are there not trademarks
or licensing deals that would prevent Valve in the Steam
machines from playing those games?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, so certainly to a degree.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Again, Grand Arismo is the one that we go back
to that when is exclusive to PlayStation devices and likely
will remain that way. But Halo, which up until very
recently was exclusive Xbox game, you can now play that
on pretty much whatever you want. You can play that
on Steam right now on your PC if you so choose. Really,
speaking to how Valve is coming out at the right moment,
(05:29):
it seems like the gaming space needs a little bit
of adaptability. Microsoft, which owns Xbox, has been trying to
make that platform a lot more adaptable, trying to encourage
more people to buy Xbox consoles, as their sales have
been declining, So Valve is hitting the market here at
a moment when the big players with all these exclusive
games seem to have an impetus on them to make
(05:53):
their games more adaptable. So that could really end up
working out for Valve. Again, this will depend on if
they can get the hardware right. They say they're planning
to put these things on sale in the beginning part
of twenty twenty six. We do not have a price
yet though, and that is going to be a big question.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Mark as well.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Do you have a second to talk about the smart
glasses Meta from Meta?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You got the demo those? How are they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So these are the Meta ray band displays. These are
smart glasses kind of like Meta already makes, with cameras
in the frames and speakers in the little arms. But
the added feature here is a screen in the lens,
so you can actually see directions Google Maps directions and
navigate to the nearic Starbucks. You can respond to text messages.
(06:35):
You can even play small games on your glasses. And
the way it works is you wear a little wristband.
There are some hand controls that you have to learn,
which I got a chance to learn. I will say
takes a little bit of getting used to. It's kind
of like, you know, you run your thumb over your
index finger to switch between different settings. You have to
tap your index finger to your thumb in order to click,
(06:57):
for example. There's a handful of other gestures that you
can make that will control this screen. But it's kind
of interesting. I will say, I picked it up within
about fifteen minutes or so of the demo. The hardware here,
I think is also really important to talk about because
Meta sees this as the next big computing platform. You know,
the next evolution of the smartphone is going to be
(07:18):
on your face in the form of these smart classes,
which can run a whole variety of different apps and
do all the things that your smartphone does now. It's
different though, in the sense that now your technology is
an outward expression of your style. And these glasses are chunky.
They need to be. There's a lot of technology in them.
So you know, some people look good in chunky glasses.
I don't think I look great in chunky glasses, but
(07:39):
you know that's just me. The technology, hopefully so soon,
will get smaller, The technology hopefully will get cheaper as well.
These things are eight hundred dollars. That means for the moment,
at least these things will remain a niche device. That
being said, though the demo that I got, I was
talking to the representative in the ray band store. They
say they are sold out through the beginning of next
year and you you can't even book a demo now
(08:02):
because there is so much interest at least at this
particular story.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Wow, the ongoing effort to get the Internet even closer
to our corneas.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yes,
All right, I spend a couple of minutes on the
(00:01):
Legacy Retirement Group dot Com phone line with ABC News
Technology reporter. It's Mike Debuski and Tech Tuesday. And I'm
of the generation Mike. I grew up playing Atari and
in television. I'm not the biggest gamer anymore, but for
and I've never really thought about this. The big three
in gaming the gaming world right now has been PlayStation, Xbox,
(00:24):
and Nintendo. But there's a new company trying to disrupt
that operation.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What's going on, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They're called Valve, and for people who are gamers, they
might recognize that name. They're the operator of the Steam
Online Store. This is a place where you can go
on your computer to download a game for a couple bucks.
It's proved pretty popular, and now the company is trying
to get into the hardware space, so they have a
new device out called the Steam Machine. And the idea
(00:50):
here is pretty interesting. They're trying to bridge the two
major worlds of gaming. The world of PC gaming, which
is really expansive and you can play really power powerful games,
but it's pretty complicated, and the world of console gaming,
this is where you find things like the PS five,
the Xbox. They're very popular and they're very easy to
plug into a TV and just start playing, but you're
(01:13):
limited in certain ways in terms of, you know, you're
computing power. There's limitations also limitations on the types of
games that you can play. For example, the Grand Tismo
series is exclusive to PlayStation. So Valve's latest device, again
called the Steam Machine, plugs into your TV. It's designed
to just be easy to turn on and start playing.
(01:33):
You don't have to sort through GPUs or weird sort
of coding menus or anything like that. Is you know,
designed to kind of function like a console in that way,
but it's actually a PC. It's actually a gaming computer.
It runs Linux, it runs the Steam operating system, and
they say it's really powerful. It's about six times as
powerful as valves handheld gaming device, which has proven pretty
(01:55):
popular over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's called the Steam Deck.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
If they are able to all of this off, bringing
the wide variety of the PC world of gaming to
the convenience of the console world of gaming, this has
the potential to really shake things up in this segment.
And you talk to analysts, they say that the gaming
space is ripe for disruption. Xbox sales have been on
(02:19):
the decline over the last few years as the price
of that console has been going up amid fears of
tariffs and other economic uncertainties. The story's a little bit
better in PlayStation land. Their sales are a little bit
up over last year, but even still the prices have
been rising. You can now spend up to seven hundred
and fifty bucks on a new PlayStation. So if Valve
(02:40):
comes in here at an attractive price, this could really
mean some disruption in the console gaming space.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So does Valve have their own games?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Then? Do they have proprietary games that you would play
versus or do they are they able to use games
like you said, that are inherent to PlayStation or Xbox.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, so this is kind of the joy of PC
gaming and kind of one of the draws of a
device like this. You're kind of able to play whatever
you want. Now, it's not every game that's ever been made, certainly,
but it's a lot more than what you would get
on just a singular console, and that is attractive. However,
this has gone wrong in the past. It's really difficult
(03:23):
to make all the variety of different gaming studios and
different independent games that are developed play nicely on a
singular operating system. Valve actually tried to make some hardware
about ten years ago in twenty fifteen, also called the
Steam Machine, and it largely flopped. It's kind of thought
to be one of the biggest failures in the tech
space of the twenty tens, in large part because things
(03:44):
were buggy, It got complicated, it got expensive, it was
late to market, all because of just how varied and
different the world of developing video games was and continues
to be now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Valve says that they are.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Not asking developers to like develop for their system, so
you're not going to have necessarily exclusive Steam Machine games.
They are doing some work on their end to adapt
existing games to their system, So they're taking Windows devices
and making Windows games, i should say, and making sure
that they play nicely on their operating system. So we'll
(04:19):
have to see if it works out for them. As
we've said, it kind of went awry for them in
the past. But if it does work, this could impact
quite a lot of people. According to Pew research, they
found that ninety seven percent of teenage boys play video games,
seventy three percent of teenage girls. As for men, between
eighteen and twenty four, which is kind of the prime
demographic here. The amount of time they dedicate to gaming
(04:41):
has doubled in the last decade. According to the Federal
Government's American Time Use Survey, now more than ten hours
a week dedicated to video gaming.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So do PlayStation and we'll move on after this real quick.
Do PlayStation and Xbox have any say here? If they've
got developers creating games for them, Are there not trademarks
or licensing deals that would prevent Valve in the Steam
machines from playing those games?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, so certainly to a degree.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Again, Grand Arismo is the one that we go back
to that when is exclusive to PlayStation devices and likely
will remain that way. But Halo, which up until very
recently was exclusive Xbox game, you can now play that
on pretty much whatever you want. You can play that
on Steam right now on your PC if you so choose. Really,
speaking to how Valve is coming out at the right moment,
(05:29):
it seems like the gaming space needs a little bit
of adaptability. Microsoft, which owns Xbox, has been trying to
make that platform a lot more adaptable, trying to encourage
more people to buy Xbox consoles, as their sales have
been declining, So Valve is hitting the market here at
a moment when the big players with all these exclusive
games seem to have an impetus on them to make
(05:53):
their games more adaptable. So that could really end up
working out for Valve. Again, this will depend on if
they can get the hardware right. They say they're planning
to put these things on sale in the beginning part
of twenty twenty six. We do not have a price
yet though, and that is going to be a big question.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Mark as well.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Do you have a second to talk about the smart
glasses Meta from Meta?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You got the demo those? How are they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So these are the Meta ray band displays. These are
smart glasses kind of like Meta already makes, with cameras
in the frames and speakers in the little arms. But
the added feature here is a screen in the lens,
so you can actually see directions Google Maps directions and
navigate to the nearic Starbucks. You can respond to text messages.
(06:35):
You can even play small games on your glasses. And
the way it works is you wear a little wristband.
There are some hand controls that you have to learn,
which I got a chance to learn. I will say
takes a little bit of getting used to. It's kind
of like, you know, you run your thumb over your
index finger to switch between different settings. You have to
tap your index finger to your thumb in order to click,
(06:57):
for example. There's a handful of other gestures that you
can make that will control this screen. But it's kind
of interesting. I will say, I picked it up within
about fifteen minutes or so of the demo. The hardware here,
I think is also really important to talk about because
Meta sees this as the next big computing platform. You know,
the next evolution of the smartphone is going to be
(07:18):
on your face in the form of these smart classes,
which can run a whole variety of different apps and
do all the things that your smartphone does now. It's
different though, in the sense that now your technology is
an outward expression of your style. And these glasses are chunky.
They need to be. There's a lot of technology in them.
So you know, some people look good in chunky glasses.
I don't think I look great in chunky glasses, but
(07:39):
you know that's just me. The technology, hopefully so soon,
will get smaller, The technology hopefully will get cheaper as well.
These things are eight hundred dollars. That means for the moment,
at least these things will remain a niche device. That
being said, though the demo that I got, I was
talking to the representative in the ray band store. They
say they are sold out through the beginning of next
year and you you can't even book a demo now
(08:02):
because there is so much interest at least at this
particular story.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Wow, the ongoing effort to get the Internet even closer
to our corneas.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yes,
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