2024 Year in Review

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to long on Target Law and Order that
has a nice ring ed law. Yeah, and I mean
we have Lieutenant Brian Steele, FOP President.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I mean this could be another spin off for Law
and Order.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh, I know, there's only like ten of them now.
I mean, I'm telling you on Target Law and Order,
I'm seeing this. You've been here a couple of times lately.
I'm just saying I love it.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I say, let's do it. Yes, I'm Here's Derek and
in the studio with me today we have my good
friend big Ed to my right, and my good friend
Tanner Brian Steele from CPD to my left. Priy, we
want to have you on today because at the end
of the year, we're talking about the year in review
and talking about what you see going forward with UH
with specifically crime. I guess in Columbus I wanted to

(00:45):
throw out some stats and these aren't These aren't good stats.
I mean, these are obviously you know, the year stars
a couple of days left, but these are these are
disturbing stats if you look at them, you know, objectively
and stuff. So in Columbus for twenty twenty four felonious
assault it's sixty nine percent of the victims. The victims
are black or Hispanic. That that's that's disturbing because we

(01:09):
know that in Columbus thirty or thirty five percent of
the population is black or Hispanic, but a higher percentage
of them are the victims of these flony sussaults. I
mean that that's something that we should all take a
look at and say, okay, that we need to do
something about that or focus on that. Even more disturbing
is that eighty five percent of the known suspects the
same eighty five percent of the suspects. There's a problem

(01:33):
in those communities that they need help with, and so
that's something that we need to look at going forward.
Forty four percent of them. Get this, forty four percent
of the suspects and flony sussaults. We're twenty one and under.
It's not about gun control, guys. These guys can't even
buy guns, and yet they're they're committing these crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Any thoughts, We talk about this all the time. What's
more disturbing is, I think other than you and I,
nobody else is addressing this. The elected officials are silent.
The black clergy is a silent the activists are as silent.
Why are we Why are we the voice of this
and nobody else. It's an atrocity to the black community,
is all it is. And if you remember, I've been
around here long enough where the politicians were pulling as

(02:18):
out of the challenge neighborhoods of color. Then to twenty twenty,
there was politicians that said, we were occupying forces occupying
these neighborhoods, the lower income challenge neighborhoods needs your law
enforcement the most. Why would we ever pull out? It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I was going to say that.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I can recall when they were talking about we were
targeting the area and not targeting the area. We're just
enforcing the law stricter to stop the killing.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And the overwhelming majority of people in these communities are
good people. They might be struggling, they might be you know,
but they're doing the right thing. And they're being terrorized.
I talked about it in the monologue. They're being terrorized
twice by the thugs in the community and then by
the politicians who let out the thugs back to the communities.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, I listened, I said all the time. Based on
these stats, the overwhelming amount of violent crime is City
of Columbus is committed by people of color. The overwhelming
amount of people of color, and the City of Columbus
do not commit violent crimes. We have to look at
both of those and figure out why.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I just the more you look into it, the more
you feel like it's a political football. It is. The
politicians don't want to resolve the issue because then they're
they're out of power. They can't they no longer have
the narrative stand up there. When you talk about murders, Brian,
it gets even worse. First of all, we didn't keep
it under one hundred, and I know there was a
big push to keeping it under one hundred. I think

(03:33):
we got well beyond that this year again, But ninety
three percent of the suspects of murders in Columbus last
year black or Hispanic, ninety three percent. I mean, there's
a there's an issue there. There's whatever it is with
the with the upbringing or I don't know what the
answer is, but we certainly can identify it. Almost eighty
percent of the victims. I mean that that's just sickening.

(03:54):
You know, that community. I can't imagine living with those conditions.
Worrying about, worrying about if you're gonna be a victim
of crime or in a heinous crying at that.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, I think the chance of being a citizen Linda
being shot is something like one in forty the East
four neighborhood, one in sixty one. You look at the
chance of being shot by a Columbus police officer, it's
point zero zero zero two eight percent. But the media
sure blows the heck out of that on the TV,
and it'll lead you to believe that your officer's your
biggest danger.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
And the thing that the thing for me that that's
really hurts is that it's become the norm. I mean,
especially up here, seventeenth percent three precinc up in you know,
at the north end of town. You would never hear
about a shooting. I mean, if you if there was
a shooting or a shots fired, we were talking about
it for a week. Man. Do you can you believe
that's ONMI on Bethel Road they had a shoot right now? Brian.

(04:44):
It is nightly. I mean every time I work, there's
not one time, and I don't work that much, there
is always some type of call involving shots fired or
a float as assault.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
We we talked about this maybe a year or two ago.
Crime is a canster and if you don't get a
hold of it, which we did not, it fantastasizes, and
it now pushed out in your communities. You're having shootings
would gah Hannah. When would you ever thought there'd just
be a random murder in Gehannah? It is completely pushing
out like we said it would.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So what can we do? What do we do? I mean,
what do we is it the politicians? Do we keep
pressure on them?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
A little bit of both? I think we keep the
pressure up. The pendulum is swinging back. We're seeing politicians
that in twenty twenty we're completely against us. You're seeing
at least in theory where vocally they're starting to support
us again at least, And whether they have good attentions
or not, I don't care. When there's an officer involved
shooting and the mayor comes out and supports the officer,
which he has before, I will immediately go out and
I will applaud him for his support. My own members.

(05:37):
Some of my own members will criticize me for that,
but I keep saying, you got to put your money
where your mouth is I can't not ask elect official supporters.
And then when he finally does, ask him, why all
I care about is that incident. That officer has very
little to worry about because at least he has some
political support. And that's what drives this car here, this
whole vehicle of law enforcement is your community support and

(05:58):
your political support. It isn't do without it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, and I don't. I mean we we've said all
along in law enforcement it's it's a close community, it's
a close brotherhood. But don't I don't want a bad
one there. If someone does something wrong or egregious, or
does something you know, against somebody else outside the color
of the law, I don't want them. I don't want
them in our community. I mean just as much as

(06:21):
they don't either. So we need to stand that. I
think there's so much of them versus us. We need
to stand beside, whether it be gun control or come
into these communities and helping with with the crime. We
need to stand up and say, okay, what we might
not agree on everything, but we know we all want
the same thing, or at least I hope we do,
and let's figure out how to get there.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Sure, And remember I'm the president of a police union
forty five hundred members. When I ran, I ran, and
I said, listen, I'm gonna hold elected officials accountable. I'm
gonna hold the police chief accountable. And I'm gonna when
you do good, I'm gonna let you know you did good.
I want the same with me. Hold me accountable if
I do wrong, hold my members accountable. I hold members accountable.
The notion that we protect bad cops is not true.

(07:00):
If you have a mistake of the mind, hey, and
you sit in front of me, we'll work with you. You
came to work a little late, maybe you were speeding
and got stopped by big ed. Not a big deal.
You have a mistake of the heart. You're on the tape.
You protect drug dealers, you steal. You have no right
in this job. And I'll sit in front of you
and say, hey, brother, throw your FLP card. Do everybody
a favor. Little Harry carey there, take off. You don't

(07:21):
belong here. Now, we have those conversations not often. Ninety
nine percent of the time our cops get it right,
but a couple times they get it wrong. The FLP
will never cover for you.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Tell us a little bit about this broke a couple
months ago, and this to me and whether it was
intentional or not, we've been talking about it a long time.
It popped up in Columbus. I know what happened is
other cities. So I printed off here. This is Channel ten.
This is a headline on Channel ten and it is
talking about the twenty twenty three stats for Columbus and

(07:51):
the headline was Columbus Police release twenty twenty three homicide,
assault and car theft stats. Let me rete you what
it says here. It says the city. Now remember this
is twenty twenty three numbers, So what's a year behind
the city saw one hundred and forty nine homicides in
twenty twenty three. One hundred and forty nine, and it
saw over ten thousand vehicles stolen. Okay, that was reported.

(08:12):
Presumably they got that from CPD. I flip over to
the other side, and this is what got reported to
the FBI for their uniform crime report. This is what
the politicians stand up there and say crime is down.
In twenty twenty three, the FBI crime report shows Columbus
had ninety six homicides. Well, this just says one forty

(08:36):
nine ninety six and six five hundred cars were stolen.
But it says over here, over ten thousand cars. Something
is wrong. I mean, we pointed this out month ago
when it came out intentional or not an oversight. I mean,
it's we know that crime isn't down. Why are we
seeing this?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
So last summer I did a report and at the time,
the city hall was touting that crime is at all
time low, We're doing good. And I was on a
radio or I was on TV, and I talked about
the officers don't feel this and the community doesn't feel this.
So the answer question, the official answer is it was
a computer error. It was a program error. It was
a mistake by doing that. The minute I saw this,

(09:16):
my sources are telling me crime is actually up twenty
five percent, not down forty two percent. I went straight
to the chief and like I said, I'll always hold
you accountable and I'll plaud you when you're doing well.
I said, Chief, it's my understanding that you are acknowledging
this problem, you're owning this problem, and you're fixing this problem.
And she said yes, And I said, well, I'm not
here to rub your face in the white dog boop right.
So I'm giving her the opportunity. I'm giving the city

(09:38):
the opportunity to get this right. We'll see what happens
next crime stats. But we all know there's something's wrong here.
And we're watching, and the community's watching, the voters are watching.
Now hopefully they start to wake up and vote the
right people in office. We have a prosecutor who never
even had the campaign at all, a prosecutor that's running
on what platform. We don't know. Is it a tough

(09:59):
on crime play? We don't know. Are you going to
uh are you going to have officers being charged again?
Like the last one said and did? We don't know.
All we know is the new prosecutor, and I'm going
to give her the benefit of doubt and give an opportunity.
All I know about her is she was running on
equity in the law enforcement or in the justice process,
whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Whatever that means. Yeah, that is scary in and of itself.
You talk about prosecuting and stopping crime and or at
least making an impact on it. Stolen cars seems to
be an epidemic. I mean, it is constant everywhere. I mean,
what do we do to get our arms around that.
I mean, is it just have we not punished those
doing the crime? What I mean, what the.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Heck majority from re juveniles, majority of statistically and juveniles
of color. There's nothing that's gonna happen to him. You know, two, three,
four or five? How many cars is enough before you
absolutely do it. I don't want to take a fourteen
year old kid who steals a car and send them
to prison for one hundred years, right, That's not what
we're here for. But when you get to your fourth, fifth,
sixth car, is there something maybe we could do? I mean,

(11:00):
I'm no expert on this, but let's sit around. We
got smart people in this room. Let's figure it out.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
And it's not just the car. I mean, how many
times do you see the cars and the guns recovered?
And I mean it, you know, leading to other crimes, the.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Money, the danger, the one hundred and twenty miles an
hour they're doing down hard road. Guy was working US
seventeen a couple months ago and over one hundred miles
an hour stolen cars going out hard and Smokey Road
because the neighborhood completely changed by.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
The way Smoky Road. Yeah, excise stuff. It's not like,
it's definitely not like it used to be. Well, let's
jump to a quick break. When we come back, I'm
gonna talk a little bit about, well, maybe we can
do to prevent your car from getting stolen, and probably
more importantly, what you can do to prevent your gun
from getting stolen. We're seeing too many on the streets.
We know they're not coming in here to buy them,
they're underage where they're getting them. What can you do

(11:44):
to prevent that? We're on talking abou We're Brodcasting Lab
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Is this interesting talk?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Now?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
That's what they said, you know headlines an interesting talking? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Uh oh, Facebook's cutting us out.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Say look at Aloe playing the songs for you there.
LT welcome back to on Target. I'm your host. Eric
joined today in the LPD studio. I got big Ed
to my right. I got Lieutenant Brianstale, FP president to
my left talking about the wrap up of twenty twenty
four in Columbus. Brian, we went into the break. We
talked about stolen cars. How are they stealing them now?

(12:28):
I mean, is there some sophisticated thing they're doing or
people leaving keys in the car? Is it kias? What
are you seeing a little bit of both?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
We're still seeing the kias, We're still seeing the hondas.
More and more people of key fobs. More and more
people are simply leaving their key fobs in the cars,
and they're really going right in a lot of times.
People are going to the gym, they're going to the
employee locker rooms and stores. They're just going through your
pockets grabbing your keys. I mean, it's pretty and they're
still boosting them in the old fashioned way.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Are we I hear this and this worries me personally.
Are they doing Are you seeing any of the sophisticated
intercepting the key fob and using that signal then to
unlock the cars and stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
There's there's individuals to have these and I'm not hard
to buy. You can go to the internet and you
could buy these kinds of really to steal your car.
How can you prevent that? I mean, do you put
your your your key fob in a fara day.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Bag or what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
What number two take precautions head on a swove we'll
be aware of your surroundings.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
We say this all the time, specially for teenagers, for
for young women. Park under the light, park close to
the door, a certnage. I back my car in I
have If I have stuff on my trunk, I'll back
it in next to some kind of poll or something
behind me to at least, you know, try to mitigate
it as much as you can.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
But right, firearms and cars, I mean a lot more
people are carrying now, which is a good thing. Unfortunately,
I think people see sometimes the signs on the doors
and they like, oh, I had to leave my gun
in the car. Maybe they don't have a means of
securing it in the car. So many of these break
ins seem to be these young teens looking for firearms
and cars.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Specifically under the front seat. That's the first thing an
individuals are gonna do. They're gonna break in your car,
look under the front seat. You lock your firearm, won't
put your firearm in for your car if you do
put your farmer car. These lock boxes are pretty cheap nowadays.
Did she find a way to lock your car? I
won't get into details how I do it, but I
have a secure device in my car. And if you're
gonna show up with a jackhammer, maybe you get it.

(14:13):
But the chances are individuals looking for quick hits, they're
not going to go through.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Put in your trunk. I mean a lot of people
have these lock boxes in the trunk. If you get
to a place that you that you know you can't
carry your firearm in, put it in the lock box
in the trunk. I mean, we have to as responsible
gun owners, we need to do our part too to
keep them off the streets. So many times I see
people come in and they say, you know, I need
the serial number off my gun because it got stolen,
and they're very lacks of daisical about it. Oh, it

(14:38):
turns covers it. I'm like, that's it's not about the
three or four hundred dollars that gun will be used
in the crime. It is going to be out there
on the streets. It is going to be using the
crime and a good chance of it being used against
somebody or a fellow officer or something like that. We
need to do a better job.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's the whole goal behind it. It's not because they
want just to have a collector's one them.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, and as you know you're a lawman. A majority
of the legal guns we pull off the street is
from a juvenile who shouldn't have it, or a majority
of time, I could bet a bottom dollar it's a
stolen gun. Right to your point, it's not someone that
comes in and buy ones in here and goes rob
a bank.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
That's not the facts. No, no, not at all. And
we just gotta we got to do a better job.
And I would like to see the City of Columbus,
the city council stip in. I mean, we're donating money
to fixed tail lights so the police don't pull you over.
Let's do a campaign. Let's how about a reach out
to these gun stores and do a public service campaign
where we stay in side by side with city council

(15:33):
and say, look, guys, we need to do this. I mean,
why don't we do stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You know, I think you might be onto something and
let's do lockboxes.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, we just had somebody to come forward here on
Facebook and made a comment about the what do we
do to change the criminal element? And he says, let's
bring stopping frist back.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
We need to do something, we need to.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
We need to You're right, we need to start small.
Just like another one down there said something about tended windows.
Do they enforce tinted windows anymore? Not as much as
we used to.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
But and it wasn't about giving someone a ticket because
the windows are too dark. I ended up with more
arrest out of tended window violations because of other things.
You know, it's not.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Small work to work big to take care of the problem.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Proactive policing, which you just don't feel like it's what
he used to do.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
They don't want you to it's different. And especially this
is not a justification. And sometimes I feel like excuse.
In a city of Columbus, the run volume is so
heavy and we're so short that the b company officer
on a hilltop on Linden, he is spending his whole
day just going through that run board. And again it's
not excuse. The the citizens need more than that from us.

(16:39):
We have to find a way to get our staffing
back up so there is more time for the proactive policing.
I said it once, We'll say it again. My old commander,
I remember he had said, if you're walking down the
street with a basketball in the inner city, don't bother
that kid. If you're a drug dealer and a gangster.
Instead outside of the corner store, he goes, I want
you to harass him all day long. He goes, that
drug dealer should have a panic attack when you pull up. No,

(17:00):
you're gonna get him against the wall. You're gonna frisk him,
and you're gonna take the tools and his stray away
from them. Yep, we're not seeing that as much as
we used to. However, what happens now I end up
getting a foot chase and I shoot that fifteen year
old gangster guy. I'm now the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's what changed, Yep, not what the bad guy did.
You are the bad guy, and they're gonna tell what
you've done. Let's look at his past history. Let's look
at his complaint history. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Mug shot picture of me, the kid in his community
suit five years ago, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We have to get past this, Yes, lieutenant, what something
came out last week from President Biden commuting a bunch
of sentences. It affected the the A person right here
in that committed a comment of Franklin County who was
on death row, happened to kill an officer in two
thousand and five. What'd you think when you heard that
come out?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I think it was an exclamation mark on that president's
That's what he will be known by all these blunders
over the year. That was the final just nail in
the coffin where you did. You took thirty seven or
forty people on death row. And it wasn't just cop killers.
There was people that murdered and raped children, right, and
you just come out and you're gonna commute their death penalty.
It was a complete I'll just speak as law enforcement.

(18:09):
It was a complete It was abomination. It was attack
on law enforcement. It was an excuse ble on Brian's memory. Yes,
completely disgusted with it, and I outspoken, actually condemned it.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, it just I know so many I gets so
many texts from fellow officers and stuff. It's just it's sickening.
It really is the principal. Yeah, the guy's going to
spend his life in prison and we're all paying for it.
But it's sickening that that that gets wiped off the
table as if you're giving back to this this thug,
this killer.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Speaking to the family, How dec need you to contact
the family and let them know what you're gonna do.
I always like to know something's coming, but my heart
breaks for the family.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. Absolutely. We lost a corrections officer this week too,
on Christmas Day, Christmas Eve. I think, I mean Andrew Lanting,
one of the prisons and stuff. Law enforcement isn't just
about out being out here on the streets. It's about
our men and women in the prisons as well, who
sometimes are facing equal you know, equal dangers and stuff.

(19:06):
What do you think about that? I mean, that's just
something that.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Woke up Christmas Day. You have a great Christmas Day
with your kids, you have your cup of coffee, and
then I read that article after they opened the gifts,
and it just it brought me down. I reached out
to the ward and I sent them an email that day.
Even though we don't represent those officers, as you know,
there are brothers, they are our sisters, and I just
said anything Lodge and I could do, please let us know.
The funeral has been announced. I believe it was January
third or fifth. We'll have that up on a FLP's Facebook.

(19:31):
Anybody locally that wants to go, we'll do a procession
in honor of him, and we'll go down and just
try to support that family as much as we can.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
You know, we're always looking to see what we could
do better, what what could we have done better in
preventing these anything, any systematic things that's an issue or
that's just part of what these mental women face every day.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I'm just following their union president was talking about they
were short, I think short forty correction officers in that
in that facility, and I'm going to follow his lead.
I know he wrote a letter to the governor and
and again, anything we could do, we're so small scale
here compared to the state correction site, but anything they need,
we're just there to support well.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And what kind of stood out I said, there was
something that got published where you know this this officer,
I don't know, made seventy five or eighty thousand a
year was his normal salary, but this year he was
twice that amount because of overtime. So I don't know,
maybe it's maybe they're starting to, you know, get taxed
a little bit on working and oh, I need to
get some more mental women.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
It was actually covering up for other officers who wanted
to be home with their families for that day as
much understanding so he took it upon himself to work
that extra holiday. Whether it meant more money in his
pocket or not, but it was it was a giving thing,
and he just gave the ultimate sacrifice, yep, and doing so.
And the prison system is that I've seen from the

(20:48):
where I'm at now is a joke as far as
the security for these people and what these criminals get.
Another guy just posted on here said life in prison
means nothing him. And I've watched him in court when
I've taken him to court, sit there and say they
did nothing wrong, did nothing wrong. But yet they take
a deal and they said, well, i'll take six months

(21:09):
over you know, four years, I assure you, because you
don't care, right, but they were guilty to begin with.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
But yet they say they're not.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yep, Lieutenant. So we're wrapping up any other words of
wisdom in this final minute, final hours here of twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I was recently re elected. Overwhelmed, but I want to
tell you.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I didn't know that you're doing one hell of a job.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I mean, I'm not in FFP nine anymore, but I
and I see I still get all the emails, and
I've seen such a change since you became president, and
you're doing one hell of a job.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Keep it up well, I appreciate it. I had some
great mentors, definitely, Jason Pappus, Jim Gilbert, people i've always
you know, and every president I've worked for I've took
good and bad from. But I loved how Jim was
always out there in the front as a young author.
That meant a lot. And I said, one day, when
I'm there, I'm going to be in uniform, I'm going
to be at these events. I'm to be taking runs
with a guy. So just look out for twenty twenty five.

(22:02):
We got a lot of great things. I just want
to keep bringing services to our members and our retirees.
I set a goal to bump this organization up to
five thousand, and one of the things I'm trying to
do is recruit some of the retirees because we need them.
I think it's a retiree. I think you almost have
an obligation to come back and teach our younger generation,
let them know what you went through and give them
some hope. Some of our younger guys are thinking I'm

(22:23):
not gonna make it to twenty five. Whenever I see
someone that does the twenty five, I shake their hands up.
My brother, you did it. You retired, Thank goodness. I
hope to be there one day, so please consider coming back.
If you're listening, your retired remember perfect for Lieutenan Brian's tale.
Thanks so much for joining us. I'm telling you this
could be a segment. I'm just saying I love it
all right. All right, hey, have a good new year,
be safe out there, and we'll talk to you.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I'm sure soon. Thank next, Yerry, yep, thank you, guys.
We're goanna jump to the bottom of our news. When
we get back, we're gonna talk a little bit about
Chicago stats and a little bit more. We're on talk
about breacasting labs in the studios of LUPD, Firearms and rain.
We'll be back right after the news. Welcome back to
our two of ontage. I don't talk at Law and Order.
Ed you spent an hour and a half with me
so far today. I know, huh, I kind of nice,

(23:07):
kind of nice senior stuff. Always good to hear the
voice of Lieutenant Brian Steele. You know what and he is?
He mentioned it and stuff. But I love the fact
that he's out there speaking, speaking the truth, I representing
fantastic job.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean, he tells it like it is and the
fact that he doesn't, you know, sugarcoat it for the
politicians of the chief. And then he turns around and
says something different to the men. That's that's the best
thing he's talking and telling them the same thing he's
telling them is men, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And he is humble enough to know that if there
is uh, you know, mistakes made and stuff, that we
own up to it. It didn't go on and stuff. But yeah,
I'm looking looking forward to another term with them too.
So good stuff, good stuff. Unfortunately, ed Unfortunately, I was
pulling some of the have you looked out there at
the Chicago stuff? I legally listen to this. It is sickening,

(24:00):
and I honestly I double checked the numbers because it's
just it seemed so outrageous. We haven't talked about the
Chicago update for a lot.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Because you don't have time for me anymore so because
everybody know, that's why you haven't heard it. Because I
know there's one guy that comes in the audience every
weekend wants to know what we're do in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I know it. I know every time you got to
show up. You know I'm here. We ain't got time,
that is true. We need ed, We need that two hours.
So listen to this, guys. Uh Chicago for this year,
of course, we still got a couple of days left
in it. Year to date, shot and killed in Chicago,
five hundred and thirty six people.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
And that was that was printed what this morning?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, well every two what was two point five minutes
I saw that somebody get shot and killed or shot?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Shot?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, or shot it's probably five eighty.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now, yeah, that's it. I mean five hundred. I mean,
why are we talking about that? I mean five hundred?
I mean did we lose five hundred troops overseas this year?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Did?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean five hundred and shot and wooded? And this
to me is even more of a shocking. It is
just under twenty five hundred people in Chicago shot and
wounded last year. Yep, twenty five hundred people.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
That is that's nuts. Total shot were just under three thousands.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, can you.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Imagine seeing that in the city of Columbus. I mean
they're up in arms, they're saying that we can't go
over one hundred. Here we are talking about Chicago, right,
and that was twenty five hundred in the city of Columbus.
You would see the streets would be empty at night.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
But I'll tell you what, and I did not do
it for today, but I looking at the per capita,
we're not far off considering our size versus a Chicago.
When you start looking at these per capital you're right,
I can't.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
But you don't see those twenty five hundred numbers just
from the city of Columbus. If you did, yeah, I
guarantee you the people in this town would be locked
in their houses.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, it would be. It would be a desert out.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Total homicide in Chicago last year over six hundred. It
tips the skin at six oh seven so far, six
hundred murders. And here's the thing that's disturbing, disturbing well
Ed mentioned it. One person is shot every two minutes
and fifty six seconds in Chicago. Can you imagine that
throughout the whole year? Okay, everyone is someone's three pills Columbus.

(26:20):
Someone has killed every fourteen hours, right in Chicago. But
here h and actually that number, that's six oh seven.
Their politicians are probably jumping up and down because that's
down from the six hundred and fifty last year, six
hundred and fifty people. They still have three days left,
that is true. But get this, I mean, and that
is down. I mean, the worst year is being twenty

(26:42):
twenty one, when when it's spiked, when the riots were
recurring that year twenty twenty one in Chicago, forty five
hundred people were shot that year, forty five hundred people.
And the thing is, I mean, you look at Chicago
and they are the epitome of gun control. I mean,
all these things place and taxes, and you must, you know,

(27:03):
do all these things to even be able to purchaseify.
So it makes you wonder, I mean, it makes you
wonder maybe we should loosen up on that, and you know,
see what happens, because it certainly ain't gonna get worse,
you know, if we open that up and we give
wall biting citizens the right to keep them bare arms.

(27:23):
What else? Here here's something too, eighteen percent fatality rate
on these shootings. So I don't know if that I
don't know how that compares to other cities. But eighteen
percent fatality, does that mean they're not a good shot
at I mean is that I mean only eighteen percent
of the time that they're shot, that they're dying.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, that's the sideway shooting.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's the sideway shooting. Yeah, you know what I contend to.
I mean, a lot of these times, these cases, you see,
it's kind of a spray and prey, So they're throwing
around everywhere. They're hitting a lot of minutes of people
who not necessarily dying from it, but they're being hit.
And listen to this, and we've talked about this a
couple of times already. Today, ninety eight percent of the

(28:05):
known suspect ninety eight percent black and Hispanic. We need
to help. I mean, can you imagine being in those
communities in a Chicago And and.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
That goes back to my whole point. If you saw
the shootings in Columbus, Ohio like they have in Chicago,
you wouldn't put up with it because you wouldn't You
wouldn't see anybody out on the streets.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I know, I know, I know, except for the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
YEP, listen to this too. Seventy nine percent of the
time in twenty twenty four, seventy nine percent of the
time there were no one charged in the murders in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Don't I don't find that hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Seventy nine percent of the time.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't find that hard to believe. Either.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, it's crazy, there's not going to go hard on
the criminals.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, or or are they or are these community such
where the culture is that they're you know, don't want
to say anything, or they're too scared to say anything.
I mean, that's just incredible. Almost eighty percent of the time,
we're not charging somebody, and you we're a fool to think,
or that's.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Or when they do charge them, it's the charge doesn't go.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
With the crime, it's it's light right.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
So they're out.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Just like Brian was talking about these kids stealing these cars,
you know, it's not just you know, they stole the
car one time. Well, we're not gonna really come down
on hard on because we don't want to ruin his life.
But the same kid goes out, same guy and steals
the same car four or five times, or the same
guy goes out and does a shooting four and five times,
and they don't hold them their feet to the fire.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
They don't. Is that that left mentality where we can
just let them right back out onto the streets. And we,
like we mentioned before, the communities, they're they're they're getting
it twice. You know, they're being you know, putting these
situations where these heinous people are running the streets and
then the politicians and the judges are letting them out

(30:05):
again to do it again. I mean, they're getting victimized twice.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think with what you see, with how President Trump's
coming into office, the change is a coming.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I hope. So I hope that trickles down. I hope.
So forty six kids under seven, under seventeen were killed
in Chicago during this year, forty six kids under seventeen,
two hundred and forty four wounded by gunfire. I mean,
kids shouldn't be worried about getting shot, but that's life

(30:35):
in Chicago. Hopefully the new president, like you said, inspires
some of this rhetoric to stop. I mean, we're not
saying we're perfect or we have all the ideas, but
come on, guys, we need to step up. Stop. These
politicians run their an entire career off of this this
narrative that they're going to save they're going to help
these communities and all it is is a narrative that
that never goes anywhere, right, So what else, Edward, Let's say, uh,

(31:01):
let's see what else Chicago, Nay, I'm trying to think
what other good things? Yeah, and they're and they're actually Chicago,
I think is one of those cities that are that
are saying they're going to kind of proof their city.
So when President Biden goes to President Biden, when President
Trump goes in, they're going to make it. So did

(31:21):
you see that they're going to put out an app
now that if you are an illegal then you can
you can text real quick that ICE is close to
arresting you, and sure, let's save you.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Let's help the criminals.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Unbelievable, guys, Let's jump to a break. When we come
back on the other side, we've got a couple other
things to get to. But you know what, ed for
the first time in a long time, you want to
take a phone call.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Let's do that.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You can you handle that, I can do so if
you want to call in the number here that is
uh that has been written down a long time ago
six one four eight two one WTVN or one eight
hundred and sixty ten WTV and call with your your
final thoughts, your questions. Maybe it's an opt to question ed,
Maybe it is.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Maybe it's just something that everybody's been wanting to know
about everybody on the show, and you want to ask
the question.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Let's go that's right, all right? Maybe maybe people want
to know why you look so good now, you know.
Maybe that's right. So the guys that jump to a break,
give us a call. Six one four eight two one
nine eight eighty six. That is the number. We'll be
back right after the break.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Got that big game coming up.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
When New Year's Day?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
What do you mean when for what? Ohio State?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I'll tell you what. I am still recovering from the
Tennessee game, working it. I don't know if those who
are who haven't been watching on Facebook. It was. It
was a long night ahead show. It was. It was
a long night worked the game last weekend one pm
to one am, and it was a constant la. You
might have someone calling them you there on the one line,

(32:51):
it was a constant uh interactions with the fans Tennessee.
How do they say that nicely?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Ahead? Yeah? You did. Kind of kind of makes you
wonder why you've got in this line of work.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It was. It was interesting. I mean it was fine,
don't get me wrong. It was a little chili, little chilli.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You'll get a call from California asking you to come
out with special duty for them.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Would go, huh, I'll go to the game. No, no,
work this traffic and at the Rose Bowl. Yeah, I couldn't.
It's probably not as bad as what it was here.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I bet it's worse.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Twenty three degrees. Couldn't fill my fingers. Is there a collar?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
There?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Is that on the one line?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
There?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Elk, yep, you got a collar? All right? You know what?
Let's jump to look at that. And we asked a caller,
we got a collar? How youre on with on target?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Hello, yes, sir, How y'all doing good?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Oh? I'm doing fantastic. I'm just trying to figure out
how y'all can spend so much time talking about guns
and cops and not mentioned the fact that there's one
of the biggest games in Ohio state history coming up.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I wait, I just said something.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Wait a second, wait, I know that voice for say
I reckon that boys haunts me? Is this Typus Powell?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
This is what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Mister you know what, I'm about done with you because
my wife is some reasons in love with you, thinking
you're funny and all that stuff. I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wow, you don't see typus.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
You must have the wrong channel on the radio, because
we were just talking about the Rose Ball.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Oh okay, what was y'all talking about?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
What about? Oh? How Eric wants to go out and
work traffic out there in California.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
That's a very busy job. You know what, when I
think about people working traffic, it makes you think about
the rush hour three save what Chris Tucker is listening
to Prince at the beginning directing traffic. I would imagine
Eric will put on his really good playlist.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Out there dancing as he's directing.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's right, that's all right, mister Powell. I'll tell you
what you have, really, you everywhere now every time we
turn on the radio, my wife, whenever we get in
the cars, you make me turned off my eighties music
and listen to you. And I mean, you're you're everywhere
with the buck eyes, with the Browns, and that's great stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Yeah, it keeps me busy. You know, I'm very passionate
about the game of football. So I'm just happy that
I get to have a platform where I get to
talk not just you know, college sports, but I get
to talk NFL sports as well. So it's it's been
a wonderful opportunity, you know, just giving just given a
chance to try to educate fans on what's going on
with the organization is thinking with you know, what's going

(35:34):
on with Ohio State. It's still really good. I think that,
you know, fans have gotten smarter by listening to some
of the things that I've said.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
So so Tyvus what we're talking to Typus Powell. I mean,
how can you not know who mister Powe is. He's
on all the talk radio stations. Now, okay, tell us, uh,
tell us your honest opinion. If you take a step
back and you're you're evaluating it as a sportscaster, what
are our chances.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
In the road, Well, I think it ultimately comes down
to what team you're gonna get. You know, that's been
the thing with the buck Eyes. If the buck Eys
come out and looked like they did against Tennessee, then
there's no question that this team is the best team
in the country. However, it's been moments where we haven't
seen that. You know, we've seen these strong performances and
then you know, games like the Team up North game happened,

(36:19):
or games like the Nebraska game happened. So to me,
it just depends on what version of the Ohio State
Buckeyes you're gonna get. And when you look across from them,
Oregon has been very consistent. They started their year off
very slow, obviously struggling, you know with Boise State and
with Idaho at the beginning of the season. But since
then they picked it up and they found their chemistry.

(36:40):
You know, when you play them, you know they're pretty
much flawless. I think when you look at this game plan,
to me, whatever offensive line shows up, it's gonna be
the one that's victorious in this game. When you look
at Oregon's D line, they have one of the best
in the country. You know, they did a lot of
damage to us last time we played them, and they
didn't even have They're best end Jordan Birch, who's gonna

(37:02):
be healthy this game. So that gives them another element there.
And then you think about our offensive line. It's been
sewn together. But you know, they went up against Tennessee
and they allowed no pressure. You know, having Tennessee having
two of the best pass rushers in the SEC, they
look like a non factor. So if that offensive line
shows up, then I think we're in for a really

(37:22):
good game. Obviously, our edge is Jack Sawyer and JT
is gonna have to play like they played in this
past game as well. You know, we've been waiting on
them to take that next step since they've been at
Ohio State, and obviously those two played really well in
this last time out. So hopefully we get that from them.
Because the last time we played them, Dylan Gabriel had

(37:42):
all the time in the world to stand back there
and dissect the defense and make these plays. They have
to find a way to get pressure on him, and
it's gonna come directly from those two guys that I just.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Mentioned earlier in times, I think we have the momentum.
I mean I saw the fighting Tennessee. I mean they
were fired up, and if we come out with that
same fight and the coaches are calling that same level
of plays, I think we're going to be in good shape.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
I agree with you on that statement. It's all hand
in hand. The coaches got to just put the put
to give the ball to their best players and put
them in situations allow their best players to make these plays,
which they are totally capable of doing.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
All right, mister poul So, since you've got the edge
on the game, what's the what's your call?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Who's gonna win? What's the spread?

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, I mean, obviously I got the Buckeyes winning this game.
I think it's a high scoring game. I'd say probably. Yeah,
I got like forty two. I got like forty two
thirty five something like that.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Wow, Wow, are you gonna Are you working the game?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Tyvis?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
No, I am not.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
All right. You get to sit back and watch it
as a spectator.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Correct, see, which is very rare for me. But I'm
going to enjoy every moment of it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yes, Hey, I do have one. You know, We've been
on for an hour and a half today and just
now my wife came out of our office to listen
to you talk. See that's the type of thing I'm
talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Tis Well.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I appreciate her as people like her that it makes
me love the fact that I get the opportunity to
even be able to speak on the radio and talk
ball and things like that. That's why I enjoy.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
What I do.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, and we we enjoy hearing you in all honesty,
I mean, knowing you and stuff, and then hearing you
on the radio. Love to listen to you, and we
appreciate you calling in today. That's great.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Problem. We all enjoyed the rest of you all day.
I go back to talking about guns and cops and
all those things that's important too.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
That's all right, that's right. Well, go bucks, tivs. We'll
talk to you here soon.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
All right, y'all go books.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Ed.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That was a good call. Great, I mean, mister tyvas
Pale calling in kind of switching gears, lightening it up
a little bit. We get all so serious and you
know the how bad society is and stuff. That's good.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
We got even some of our and watchers on Facebook
said they'd rather hear about guns.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Really.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Okay, you know what. Then I'm going to end it
then with with something that I bought myself this year
for Christmas already, you know, and I haven't showed you this.
This is this is kind of.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Why don't you just buy yourself? Why didn't your wife
buy it for you?

Speaker 5 (40:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I she ain't gonna buy me nothing from the store.
This is this is check this out, Ed, and now
I'm gonna show you. Now we sell these here, Ed,
So if you want one for yourself, No, I don't know.
This is a fine revolver and stuff. But if you're
in the market for for a nice, finely tuned revolver,
I'll tell you Smith and Wesson, you still can't go wrong.
I know the colts are out there now, and there's
some beautiful ones, and we have the Anacondas and some

(40:38):
of the big ones and stuff. But Ed, you can
never go wrong. I mean, look at that Smith and Wesson,
and I'm gonna leave that. No, that is a forty
four magnum snub nose. I see mister Walker out there
in the audience, you and I over that. That was
my Christmas gift to myself. Huh? How about that?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Ed?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Beautiful?

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah, you know I've I've seen where they have this
in the five hundred snub.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, but you know what that you don't see those
as much anymore. You almost have to buy those on
the after in the secondary market.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Might that would be my Christmas gift to myself? Or
if you wanted to find one for me and gift
it to me. I would love to have a snub
nose five five.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Hundred or four sixty because the four sixty allows you
to shoot for sixty four or fifty four casole forty
five long cold. He's a little more versatility. Now, if
you just want to say, look at me, here, here's
my big gun. I get it with the five hundred,
but I'm on hurt ed. I'm sure it's gonna hurt.
I mean I have a five.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Hundred, big hands and big shoulders. I can handle it.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, but on that snub, note that that round does
not have far, It does not have far to go
before it exits the barrel. Yeah. But forty four magnum,
that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's a nice gun. I like that.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Yeah, I mean I would take one of them too,
you would. I would gladly let you give me one
of those.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yes, Yes, it was just one of those things. I
kind of a sucker to the Smith and Western revolvers. Actually,
the neat thing about it too, for those watching on
Facebook and YouTube, it's a snubnose that has the uh.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Too keen on the smooth cylinder.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
The smooth still is kind of neat though it's kind
of neat.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I don't know. I like the indentations on the old ones.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
What is neat about this too? They make the same
one in threefty seven magnum, which I happen to have,
and in forty five ACP. You've probably seen that one
before that I have. It has a cylinder that is
really has a big gap in it because it takes
the forty five so it doesn't have the spacing as
such and everything. So I don't know. I kind of

(42:38):
like those things, probably never shoot it, butthing that I'm
a forty five guy, I know, I know you.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I do like that one. Yep.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
So there you go. Did you you didn't buy yourself
again for Christmas?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Sets?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
I did not buy myself myself anything for Christmas, while,
although I will make the announcement that I got a
gift a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
My daughter gave birth to a beautiful little girl. Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
When did that happen?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
December twenty second, so I arrived just before Christmas. So
we want to say welcome to the world, Hattie May.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah cool, that's great, that's forward to that great. And
you're also a grandfather to Eddie the.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, Eddie keeps sending me messages via his wife's name.
He doesn't think I'm smart enough to catch that.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
But yes, his.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Son just turned to a year and a half or
year and one month old in November, so congratulations to them.
And he's turning into a little.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Firecracker, the little one or Eddie, the little one his name.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
His name's Eddie as well.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh I know, so it's ed ed and Eddie.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So I got a cartoon.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, I gotta deal with all you people.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
So I think he's going to be following in his
father's footsteps as well. His mother may want something different.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yep. Yeah, he's a little firecracker.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Great, great, Well that wrapped up. That only wraps up
a two hour show. That wraps up twenty twenty four.
So I appreciate everyone hanging with us for a couple
of hours. We enjoy it. I don't know if anyone
else does. We enjoy it. Gives us more time to
slow down a little bit, talk a little bit more
in depth about things. Appreciate all the guests calling in
and stopping by. My buddy Richie and Tyvus and Jake

(44:11):
and Lieutenant Brian Steele for stopping here in person. Guys,
hope you have a safe New Year. Happy New Year.
We will definitely see you next week. Stop by and
see us. All kinds of sales still going on right here,
a couple left over from Black Friday as well, so
if you're still in the market, got a little Christmas
cash in your pocket, stop by and see us. And

(44:31):
as always, guys, let's be careful out there.